Feb 24 2020
Greens move to cap political donations   :)
Mirage News

The Greens will move to get big money out of politics this week by introducing a bill to cap donations to political parties at $1000 per year and to ban all party political donations from dirty industries buying influence: the mining, banking, gambling, alcohol and property industries.

Greens Senate Leader and spokesperson on democracy, Senator Larissa Waters, said the Greens bill could once and for all remove the influence of big money and start restoring integrity into our parliament.

“The community wants its democracy back. They’re sick of their interests being sold out to the highest bidder,” she said.

“Opposition leader Anthony Albanese yesterday for the first time showed support for the long-held Greens policy of capping political donations.

“Perhaps Albo realised the corrosive impact of big money on politics now Clive Palmer lost the election for Labor.

“Nonetheless, we welcome his support but donations caps must be meaningful and low.

“Democracy needs a meaningful donations cap of $1000 a year for all donors – individuals, unions and corporates – and a complete ban on donations from industries with a history of buying policy outcomes, like the mining, banking, gambling, alcohol and property industries.

“Massive donations to the old political parties have sold out community interests.

“The major parties have taken at least $1 million from the fossil fuel industry in the past year alone, making a total of $9.3 million that the fossil fuel giants have donated to the Labor and Liberal/National parties since 2012.   :(  

“Trust in politics is at an all time low and the best way to fix this is to stop selling our democracy to the highest bidder.

“With support from Labor and the crossbench, this bill could pass the Senate and pressure the Government to finally act,” she said.      

Good move.

There should also be a Bill to establish an Corrupt Practices Bureau, which investigates corrupt actions by MPs and senators, and also has the power to recommend resignations, removals and criminal charges.

if they take that to an election even I might vote for them despite the fact that the rest of their policies suck.

But unless they actually win a majority and can form govt on their own, I'll never happen. Labor and the  libs won't allow it.

oh well yeah ok....


coming from the party that received and took the LARGEST DONATION OF ANY PARTY...


sounds cool..... ;D ;D ;D    WOTIF... anyone.. ;D ;D ;D ;D


lets see if they offer to return it... :)

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:

if they take that to an election even I might vote for them despite the fact that the rest of their policies suck. But unless they actually win a majority and can form govt on their own, I'll never happen. Labor and the  libs won't allow it.

Quote:

"Opposition leader Anthony Albanese yesterday for the first time showed support for the long-held Greens policy of capping political donations."

The ALP and Greens are likely to work together in the future to make real reforms here such as a $1000 cap and real time disclosure. The Coalition oppose such reforms, but that's not surprising given how much they benefit from political corruption.

Bam wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 5:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 4:48pm: if they take that to an election even I might vote for them despite the fact that the rest of their policies suck. But unless they actually win a majority and can form govt on their own, I'll never happen. Labor and the  libs won't allow it. Quote: "Opposition leader Anthony Albanese yesterday for the first time showed support for the long-held Greens policy of capping political donations." The ALP and Greens are likely to work together in the future to make real reforms here such as a $1000 cap and real time disclosure. The Coalition oppose such reforms, but that's not surprising given how much they benefit from political corruption.

I stand corrected.

Well done Albo

The guilty shamed sick diseased Greenies are trying to escape their shame over causing the bushfires that burnt Australia to the ground.

juliar wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 7:34am:

The guilty shamed sick diseased Greenies are trying to escape their shame over causing the bushfires that burnt Australia to the ground.

1. Stupidest long bow drawn
2. Are there still smacking morons who believe the HR burn bullshit trotted out>?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 8:04am:

juliar wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 7:34am: The guilty shamed sick diseased Greenies are trying to escape their shame over causing the bushfires that burnt Australia to the ground. 1. Stupidest long bow drawn 2. Are there still smacking morons who believe the HR burn bullshit trotted out>?

1. How has capping political donations got anything to do with bush fires....Stupid is an understatement???

2. Despite all the evidence to the contrary all the Liberal /National party sycophants have is blaming others for their incompetence....There were warnings the Federal Government (Scotty from Marketing) ignored and when the emergency was critical Scotty from Marketing was missing in action....Not that he is any use when he is here anyway???

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Bam wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 5:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 4:48pm: if they take that to an election even I might vote for them despite the fact that the rest of their policies suck. But unless they actually win a majority and can form govt on their own, I'll never happen. Labor and the  libs won't allow it. Quote: "Opposition leader Anthony Albanese yesterday for the first time showed support for the long-held Greens policy of capping political donations." The ALP and Greens are likely to work together in the future to make real reforms here such as a $1000 cap and real time disclosure. The Coalition oppose such reforms, but that's not surprising given how much they benefit from political corruption.

ALDI BAGS anyone... ;D ;D ;D

Auggie wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 1:00pm:

Good move. There should also be a Bill to establish an Corrupt Practices Bureau, which investigates corrupt actions by MPs and senators, and also has the power to recommend resignations, removals and criminal charges.

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:

if they take that to an election even I might vote for them despite the fact that the rest of their policies suck. But unless they actually win a majority and can form govt on their own, I'll never happen. Labor and the  libs won't allow it.

The greens took the establishment of a Federal ICAC to the 2016 election and got the legislation passed in the Senate with the help of Labor and the Independents in 2018 only to have the Libs kill it in the House.

So the Greens did take it to the electorate, Labor did support it in the Senate but it was killed when going back to the House by the Coalition.

I'm sure the usual suspects will claim it was bad policy because it was some greeny blah blah and applaud the Coalition for basically not wanting to end corruption, but we see why now with the Sports Fund rorts and now Urban Congestion Fund rorts too.

It's indefensible, but we know some will try.

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 11:21am:

So the Greens did take it to the electorate, Labor did support it in the Senate but it was killed when going back to the House by the Coalition.

that one is only a matter of time. When labor win the next election i suspect that will be back on the agenda quick smart ... and if they had any brains they'd get them to investigate all these rorts from the current government.

cods wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 10:06am:

ALDI BAGS anyone...

so why object to a federal ICAC?  ::)

whiteknight wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 12:39pm:

The Greens will move to get big money out of politics this week by introducing a bill to cap donations to political parties at $1000 per year and to ban all party political donations from dirty industries buying influence: the mining, banking, gambling, alcohol and property industries.

I wonder how they will find where the middle man gets their money? ;)

"Sky News host Paul Murray says GetUp can “pay for plenty of bullies” with $12 million, but more than 70 per cent of their public donations were spent on salaries and ‘administration’."

https://www.news.com.au/national/getup-is-incredibly-effective-only-when-they-target-virtual-unknowns/video/745e922d34c3fc5566f4abd7e233b590

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 4:52pm:

"Sky News host Paul Murray says GetUp can “pay for plenty of bullies” with $12 million, but more than 70 per cent of their public donations were spent on salaries and ‘administration’." https://www.news.com.au/national/getup-is-incredibly-effective-only-when-they-target-virtual-unknowns/video/745e922d34c3fc5566f4abd7e233b590

and?

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 4:59pm:

and?

I just knew it would be too deep for you. ;)

Tell us the source of Get Up's donations. ;)

Despite spending most of it on themselves. ;)

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 5:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 4:59pm: and? I just knew it would be too deep for you. ;) Tell us the source of Get Up's donations. ;) Despite spending most of it on themselves. ;)

what has getup to do with you? it's a private organisation.

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 5:19pm:

what has getup to do with you? it's a private organisation.

So in other words if money is channeled via a third party it doesn't count? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 5:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 5:19pm: what has getup to do with you? it's a private organisation. So in other words if money is channeled via a third party it doesn't count? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

are you referring to Parakeelia

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 6:02pm:

are you referring to Parakeelia

Wow. denialism 101 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 4:08pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 11:21am: So the Greens did take it to the electorate, Labor did support it in the Senate but it was killed when going back to the House by the Coalition. that one is only a matter of time. When labor win the next election i suspect that will be back on the agenda quick smart ... and if they had any brains they'd get them to investigate all these rorts from the current government.

The current government will not want to have their rorts investigated. It will be - if the Libs could launch politically-motivated Royal Commissions, they should expect payback in spades when Labor is next in office.

This is why they are scared of a National Integrity Commission. They know that when it's up and running, it's going to create a drip feed of damning findings against the Coalition that would keep the Coalition out of office for three or four terms at least.

Bam wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 10:08pm:

They know that when it's up and running, it's going to create a drip feed of damning findings against the Coalition that would keep the Coalition out of office for three or four terms at least.

Hope springs eternal. ;)

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 6:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 6:02pm: are you referring to Parakeelia Wow. denialism 101 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I didn't know they offered PhD's in that. Good on you for achieving that.

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 10:17pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 10:08pm: They know that when it's up and running, it's going to create a drip feed of damning findings against the Coalition that would keep the Coalition out of office for three or four terms at least. Hope springs eternal. ;)

Look at how many rorts are coming to light now, imagine actually being investigated by a resourced and empowered body.

Nightmare fuel for conservatives.

lee wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 4:52pm:

"Sky News host Paul Murray says GetUp can “pay for plenty of bullies” with $12 million, but more than 70 per cent of their public donations were spent on salaries and ‘administration’." https://www.news.com.au/national/getup-is-incredibly-effective-only-when-they-target-virtual-unknowns/video/745e922d34c3fc5566f4abd7e233b590

Whilst I agree trhat maybe there needs to be transparency about where the donations for activist groups come from, I think its a bit rich coming from a Sky News commentator.

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 4:59pm:

lee wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 4:52pm: "Sky News host Paul Murray says GetUp can “pay for plenty of bullies” with $12 million, but more than 70 per cent of their public donations were spent on salaries and ‘administration’." https://www.news.com.au/national/getup-is-incredibly-effective-only-when-they-target-virtual-unknowns/video/745e922d34c3fc5566f4abd7e233b590 and?

Deflection 101....We know who funds the IPA but only because it was revealed in court documents....If one questions the funding of third parties they should call for all donations to be banned that influence politics....Taking money from Global Warming deniers shows why the Coalition are undermining action to cut greenhouse emissions and have been brought by the mining lobby???


Quote:

Rinehart’s secret millions to the IPA Unexpected disclosures in Gina Rinehart’s protracted family legal battle have revealed the mining magnate funds up to half of the Institute of Public Affairs’ activities.

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https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2018/07/28/rineharts-secret-millions-the-ipa/15327000006616

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/07/24/ipa-membership-donors/

https://thestirrer.com.au/how-charitable-is-the-institute-of-public-affairs/

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 7:13am:

We know who funds the IPA but only because it was revealed in court documents....If one questions the funding of third parties they should call for all donations to be banned that influence politics....Taking money from Global Warming deniers shows why the Coalition are undermining action to cut greenhouse emissions and have been brought by the mining lobby???

Anyone who thinks going after GetUp would not be without consequences for the IPA is kidding themselves. The last thing conservatives want is for the secretive IPA to be cracked open and exposed to thorough scrutiny.

The sick diseased Greenies are trying to create a distraction from their great shame in causing the bush fires which burnt Australia to the ground because they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth.

juliar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 9:31am:

The sick diseased Greenies are trying to create a distraction from their great shame in causing the bush fires which burnt Australia to the ground because they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth.

Why do you have such a need to spread lies?

Because the scope of your uninformed mind would not know the TRUTH otherwise.

The sick diseased Greenies caused the bushfires because they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth.

What part of that does your delicate mind fail to comprehend ?

juliar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 10:11am:

Because the scope of your uninformed mind would not know the TRUTH otherwise. The sick diseased Greenies caused the bushfires because they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth. Blatant lies from the resident nutjob, you have been shown why this is a lie many times before, yet you continue, must be in a Liberals DNA to just lie, lie, lie, sad really that Liberal supporters have so little faith in their party that they need to resort to behaviour like this. I wonder, is the re-telling of blatant lies a reason for an extended holiday from this forum? What part of that does your delicate mind fail to comprehend ?

juliar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 10:11am:

The sick diseased Greenies caused the bushfires because they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth. What part of that does your delicate mind fail to comprehend ?

The part where there is any evidence of your bulldust

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 10:33am:

juliar wrote on Feb 27th, 2020 at 10:11am: The sick diseased Greenies caused the bushfires because they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth. What part of that does your delicate mind fail to comprehend ? The part where there is any evidence of your bulldust

juliar is paid per post and is posting as if the Young Libs' cocaine money has run out again.

juliar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 10:11am:

Because the scope of your uninformed mind would not know the TRUTH otherwise. The sick diseased Greenies caused the bushfires because they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth. What part of that does your delicate mind fail to comprehend ?

Get help.

And Skippy, the Greeny Kangyroo suffering from Global Warming overheating, hops around as confused as ever.

And is Scope a closet Greeny pushing lying Greeny propaganda ?

How many of the arsonists were Lunatic Extremist Greenies ?

The Greenies are deeply shamed over their disgraceful anti-Australian behavior when they caused the bushfires to burn so fiercely because they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth which caused to bushfires to burn with such ferocity.

The good thing is that the Greeny Saboteurs' dangerous undergrowth is removed and won't reappear for about 25 years which is about the recycle time for the next naturally occurring bushfires in Australia.

The TRUTH really pulls the rug out from under the shamed Greeny liars.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 6:33am:

Whilst I agree trhat maybe there needs to be transparency about where the donations for activist groups come from, I think its a bit rich coming from a Sky News commentator.

You would rather Murdoch News? ;)

Bam wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 9:23am:

Anyone who thinks going after GetUp would not be without consequences for the IPA is kidding themselves. The last thing conservatives want is for the secretive IPA to be cracked open and exposed to thorough scrutiny.

But that would also mean opening up the "progressive" think tanks. ;)

Gosh a new conspiracy from the downtrodden Lefties - IPA is as bad as Labor's Political Propaganda Arm the GetUp! Terrorist group!!!!!

Does IPA get political donations like GetUp! does ?

juliar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 11:11am:

And Skippy, the Greeny Kangyroo suffering from Global Warming overheating, hops around as confused as ever. And is Scope a closet Greeny pushing lying Greeny propaganda ? How many of the arsonists were Lunatic Extremist Greenies ? The Greenies are deeply shamed over their disgraceful anti-Australian behavior when they caused the bushfires to burn so fiercely because they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth which caused to bushfires to burn with such ferocity. The good thing is that the Greeny Saboteurs' dangerous undergrowth is removed and won't reappear for about 25 years which is about the recycle time for the next naturally occurring bushfires in Australia. The TRUTH really pulls the rug out from under the shamed Greeny liars.

You're talking absolute and total bullshit.

The Green are FOR hazard reduction burning and have no power to stop it even in a world where they'd want to.

The hazard reduction burns exceeded their targets this season.

You're straight up lying while accusing others of ignoring the truth.

And I know you're lying because this has been pointed out to you before.


SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2020 at 8:32am:

juliar wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 12:13am: The fires were a result of a cyclic weather event that occurs every 30 years or so when dry hot weather predominates as it has many times in the past. Unfortunately the sick diseased Greenies had banned the clearing of undergrowth and so we got the big fires. These big fires have occurred before in most states and so it is just a natural recurring weather event. Trying to get the sick diseased Greenies off the hook by lying about the non existent Climate Change SCAM is just blatant fraud. The Aboriginies reckon the white fella is downright stupid allowing the huge amount of undergrowth to build up. But it was the sick diseased Greenies who weevilled their way into councils and BANNED the clearing of undergrowth who are the GUILTY PARTY!!!!!  GUILTY of burning Australia to the ground!!!!! Wonder how many votes they will get at the next election now that people HATE and DESPISE these horrible brutes. Have you ever bothered to fact check that? Can you list any policy that the Green have implemented that support your claim and would, it seems, after a simple google search, be in counter to their own party platform? Quote: Bushfires, Hazard Reduction and Backburning The Australian Greens support hazard reduction burns and backburning to reduce the impact of wildfire when guided by the best scientific, ecological and emergency service expertise. https://greens.org.au/bushfires I look forward to your proof to back up your claims, lest they be exposed as your usual lies. We can look at the facts quickly.  We know where your claims come from.  The chief accuser is Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce who says “greens policy” gets in the way “of many of the practicalities of fighting a fire and managing it”. Among Joyce’s claims, the main one is that Greens policies have made hazard reduction activities more difficult. This claim, just to be clear, is about the policies of a party that has never been in government. You realise that right Juliar? Joyce also blamed the Greens for “paperwork” that made it harder to carry out hazard reduction activities. According to Ross Bradstock, senior professor, School of Earth, Atmospheric and Life Sciences, University of Wollongong, Joyce’s claims are familiar but “without foundation.” “It’s simply conspiracy stuff. It’s an obvious attempt to deflect the conversation away from climate change.” Former NSW fire and rescue commissioner, Greg Mullins, has written this week that the hotter and drier conditions, and the higher fire danger ratings, were preventing agencies from carrying out prescribed burning. He said: “Blaming ‘greenies’ for stopping these important measures is a familiar, populist, but basically untrue claim.” So the effect of climate change is having a greater effect than the non-existent one from the Greens in terms of preventing hazard reduction burns. Please, if you have any evidence whatsoever to back up your claims about the Green, please share.

And


SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 7^th, 2020 at 9:41am:

NSW also exceeded all their hazard reduction goals leading up to this, there was no reduction, and this was despite the funding cuts the local state government implemented. NSW also exceeded all their hazard reduction goals leading up to this, there was no reduction, and this was despite the funding cuts the local state government implemented. Link

Nearly 2 months ago you were corrected and you're still pushing the lie while accusing others of ignoring the truth.

I know you're anti Greens but if you have to push completely fabricated bullshit to justify your stance, you've already defeated yourself.

If you want to keep making the claim you will need to provide evidence of it.

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 12:56pm:

juliar wrote on Feb 27th, 2020 at 11:11am: And Skippy, the Greeny Kangyroo suffering from Global Warming overheating, hops around as confused as ever. And is Scope a closet Greeny pushing lying Greeny propaganda ? How many of the arsonists were Lunatic Extremist Greenies ? The Greenies are deeply shamed over their disgraceful anti-Australian behavior when they caused the bushfires to burn so fiercely because they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth which caused to bushfires to burn with such ferocity. The good thing is that the Greeny Saboteurs' dangerous undergrowth is removed and won't reappear for about 25 years which is about the recycle time for the next naturally occurring bushfires in Australia. The TRUTH really pulls the rug out from under the shamed Greeny liars. You're talking absolute and total bullshit.

When has he ever done anything different?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1582504695

lee wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 11:38am:

Bam wrote on Feb 27th, 2020 at 9:23am: Anyone who thinks going after GetUp would not be without consequences for the IPA is kidding themselves. The last thing conservatives want is for the secretive IPA to be cracked open and exposed to thorough scrutiny. But that would also mean opening up the "progressive" think tanks. ;)

I have no problem with that, as long as the septic tank IPA is also opened up. The IPA has much more to lose with scrutiny than any other.

Skippy the odd ball Greeny Kangyroo is in denial mode she is so confused. She is just pushing the lying Greeny Propaganda line.

The old Greggy just keeps plugging away. What he actually plugs is usually a mystery having no relation to the topic.

The Greenies are deeply shamed after causing the bushfires that burnt Australia to the ground.

And they are Labor's Coalition partner!!!!    God luck to Labor in the next election with CURSED HATED DESPISED curs like the Greenies hanging on.

juliar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 2:43pm:

Skippy the odd ball Greeny Kangyroo is in denial mode she is so confused. She is just pushing the lying Greeny Propaganda line. The old Greggy just keeps plugging away. What he actually plugs is usually a mystery having no relation to the topic. The Greenies are deeply shamed after causing the bushfires that burnt Australia to the ground. And they are Labor's Coalition partner!!!!    God luck to Labor in the next election with CURSED HATED DESPISED curs like the Greenies hanging on.

BINGO!

If you click on the full stop at the end of my post, I predicated your insults,


SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 12:56pm:

If you want to keep making the claim you will need to provide evidence of it.

Anyway, you've been shown the official stats about the hazard reduction burns.  They exceeded targets.  This is a fact, a fact you're ignoring to continue to push your lies.

As I covered in the post I linked to, there is "The Greens" political party and then "green groups".  There is often some overlap but they aren't always the same thing.

The Greens political party support Hazard Reduction burns.  Their parliamentary record proves this and it's listed on their website.

If anyone was against Hazard Reduction burns it was the NSW Liberal Government with their defunding of the RFS, again, a documented fact.

And you claim that the "greenies caused the bushfires", even if you pretend that anyone charged with lighting fires and assumed not only were they all charged with deliberately lighting them rather than being charged for reckless behaviour AND they were all Greens, they make up a statistically insignificant amount of the area burnt as the vast vast majority were started by lightning strikes.

Again, another fact you're choosing to ignore.

And now you claim the Greens are a Coalition partner with Labor?  Another lie.

I would always laugh at the people who would say you were paid to post, a young Liberal or maybe a tard from the IPA, but everything you post is not only full of poo, but a well-known talking point from the Coalition.  If you're not getting paid you should be asking for it.

Do you think, with all the facts you're ignoring, that you really have any right to attack others claiming they're in denial mode?

I've given you the evidence for my claims multiple times.  All you do is claim I'm confused, try to insult me or gender flip me.

Where is your evidence?

Why are you so afraid to justify your claims?

It seems like you're just another insecure conservative who can't handle that your side simply doesn't have the truth or the facts on their side.

I would NEVER attempt to explain anything, no matter how simple, to someone like Skippy the none too bright confused Greeny Kangyroo.

Skippy the Greeny Kangyroo is just mouthing lying Greeny Propaganda. Typical Greeny understands nothing but learns the lying Greeny Propaganda off by heart.

The Greenies are in lockdown mode as they try to wriggle out of the voters hate and loathing and their great shame for causing the bushfires by banning the clearance of dangerous undergrowth because they WANTED to see Australia BURN!!!!!

Adolf Bushfires Bandicoot is HATED DESPISED AND LOATHED by the voters and is even more hated than Shifty old Shorty.

And the Lunatic Extremist Greenies are the coalition partners for the Labor Party.

No surprise AnAl is ducking and weaving trying to disassociate himself from the sick diseased Greenies but he can't as he needs their numbers to control the Senate.

juliar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 4:13pm:

I would NEVER attempt to explain anything, no matter how simple, to someone like Skippy the none too bright confused Greeny Kangyroo.

I'm not even a Greeny, and you're not fooling anyone, you refuse to explain, justify or provide evidence for your claims because you can't or there is no evidence to support them.

Make excuses all you like, but you're nothing but a liar and a fraud.

Nobody takes you seriously here.  There may be some who like some of what you have to say, but like you, they can't offer any evidence of it either.

So keep on telling your lies, keep on spreading your fake news.

Until you offer some proof you'll be seen as nothing but a tard and people will just ignore you again.  I know you feel like you're getting the last say and "winning" when that happens, but I'm sure deep down you suffer from the realisation that, if you're not paid to do this, you're just a joke on here.

The embodiment of all the worst quality of the new age conservative so sure about themselves but too scared to fact check their opinions lest they realise they're just the pawns of those who control and shape the narrative for their benefit, not yours.

Nothing has changed in the Greens platform for them to lose their supporters.  The only thing that has changed are the lies told by the Liberal and National politicians to deflect their responsibility for the defunding of the RFS and their inaction on policy that would help reduce these sorts of fires for future generations.

And wouldn't you know it, this is exactly the projection you're throwing out there on those you don't agree with.

What a surprise...

Hypocrisy, deflections, lies and deceit.  That's all your side of politics has left.

Let that sink in.

Skippy the slightly nutty Greeny Kangyroo is apologizing for being inadequate and being perpetually confused. A classic Greeny if ever there was one.

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Greens Move To Cap Political Donations

I would cap it at $0.00 and imprison anyone who gave the politicians one cent.

Donations = corruption ending them is the only way to make them a little more honest and to govern for Australians and not the various interest groups.

juliar wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 6:34pm:

Skippy the slightly nutty Greeny Kangyroo is apologizing for being inadequate and being perpetually confused. A classic Greeny if ever there was one.

Not a single one of your posts in this thread have been on topic, you're trying to bring up the bushfires and lie about them.

Greens aside, if I may, how do you feel about the notion of a cap on political donations?

Would you support the idea and if not, why?

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 27^th, 2020 at 6:55pm:

juliar wrote on Feb 27th, 2020 at 6:34pm: Skippy the slightly nutty Greeny Kangyroo is apologizing for being inadequate and being perpetually confused. A classic Greeny if ever there was one. Not a single one of your posts in this thread have been on topic, you're trying to bring up the bushfires and lie about them. Greens aside, if I may, how do you feel about the notion of a cap on political donations? Would you support the idea and if not, why?

Your critisism about being off topic is a bit unfair - Juliar is off topic on all topics.

Also the answer to his reason to not support it is obvious - He is a Liberal supporter and you cannot have a Liberal party without corruption.