I said when this first came to light that Frydembergers was a scum bag for using the Holocaust to avoid producing proof of his citizenship (He is not a victim)....Everyone else has to prove their citizenship, what makes Frydemberger think the rules do not apply to him....They should have dealt with this when it first came to light instead of playing the Jewish persecution card to avoid scrutiny....Sack the bastard???


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Mr Staindl's lawyer, Angel Aleksov, said Mr Frydenberg's mother did not renounce her citizenship and even if those rights were temporarily lost during the Communist era, they were restored following the fall of the regime in 1989.

:-? :-? :-?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-18/josh-frydenberg-missing-proof-of-citizenship-court-told/11975966

This could be interesting!

i don't know why this is still an issue.

Set up an independent committee to check EVERYONE in parliament.  Anyone who fails the test, or fails to provide the required documentation is to be immediately banned from parliament, with a halt to their salary, benefits, govt. credit cards, expense accounts and everything else they're entitled to. If after a certain period they still fail to provide the evidence, they pay back any money, be it through salaries or expenses claimed, paid to hem but to which they weren't entitled to in the first place.

If joe public has to pay back money paid to them to which they were  later found to not be entitled to (robo debt), then the politicians should be held to the same standards.

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 4:38pm:

i don't know why this is still an issue. Set up an independent committee to check EVERYONE in parliament.  Anyone who fails the test, or fails to provide the required documentation is to be immediately banned from parliament, with a halt to their salary, benefits, govt. credit cards, expense accounts and everything else they're entitled to. If after a certain period they still fail to provide the evidence, they pay back any money, be it through salaries or expenses claimed, paid to hem but to which they weren't entitled to in the first place. If joe public has to pay back money paid to them to which they were  later found to not be entitled to (robo debt), then the politicians should be held to the same standards.

Err just remember we are dealing with Scummo the crooks coalition!

Is he in a safe seat?

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 4:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 4:38pm: i don't know why this is still an issue. Set up an independent committee to check EVERYONE in parliament.  Anyone who fails the test, or fails to provide the required documentation is to be immediately banned from parliament, with a halt to their salary, benefits, govt. credit cards, expense accounts and everything else they're entitled to. If after a certain period they still fail to provide the evidence, they pay back any money, be it through salaries or expenses claimed, paid to hem but to which they weren't entitled to in the first place. If joe public has to pay back money paid to them to which they were  later found to not be entitled to (robo debt), then the politicians should be held to the same standards. Err just remember we are dealing with Scummo the crooks coalition! Is he in a safe seat?

rhubarb rhubarb...... ;D ;D ;D

cods is always happy to see the conalition break the rules. ::)

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 4:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 4:38pm: i don't know why this is still an issue. Set up an independent committee to check EVERYONE in parliament.  Anyone who fails the test, or fails to provide the required documentation is to be immediately banned from parliament, with a halt to their salary, benefits, govt. credit cards, expense accounts and everything else they're entitled to. If after a certain period they still fail to provide the evidence, they pay back any money, be it through salaries or expenses claimed, paid to hem but to which they weren't entitled to in the first place. If joe public has to pay back money paid to them to which they were  later found to not be entitled to (robo debt), then the politicians should be held to the same standards. Err just remember we are dealing with Scummo the crooks coalition! Is he in a safe seat?

I think if he is ruled ineligible (like Barnaby), he will have to re contest the seat of Kooyong if he can clear up his citizenship....Surely they now have a vetting process that determines eligibility before someone is selected???


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Kooyong has been held by the Liberal Party of Australia and its predecessors for its entire existence. It is one of two original electorates in Victoria to have never been won by the Australian Labor Party, the other being Gippsland. For decades, it has been one of the safest Coalition seats in metropolitan Australia.

My guess is he could be in trouble if he cannot prove he has renounced his Hungarian citizenship which was reinstated in 1989???


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Mr Staindl's lawyer, Angel Aleksov, said Mr Frydenberg's mother did not renounce her citizenship and even if those rights were temporarily lost during the Communist era, they were restored following the fall of the regime in 1989.

:-? :-? :-?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-18/josh-frydenberg-missing-proof-of-citizenship-court-told/11975966

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 4:25pm:

I said when this first came to light that Frydembergers was a scum bag for using the Holocaust to avoid producing proof of his citizenship (He is not a victim)....Everyone else has to prove their citizenship, what makes Frydemberger think the rules do not apply to him....They should have dealt with this when it first came to light instead of playing the Jewish persecution card to avoid scrutiny....Sack the bastard??? Quote: Mr Staindl's lawyer, Angel Aleksov, said Mr Frydenberg's mother did not renounce her citizenship and even if those rights were temporarily lost during the Communist era, they were restored following the fall of the regime in 1989. :-? :-? :-? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-18/josh-frydenberg-missing-proof-of-citizenship-court-told/11975966

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Josh Frydenberg duel citizen

Who's he having a duel with ?

Another bulldust FAKE NEWS effort by the lost in space Lefties to try to drum up a distraction from Labor's very big upcoming catastrophe.

crocodile wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 6:19pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 4:25pm: I said when this first came to light that Frydembergers was a scum bag for using the Holocaust to avoid producing proof of his citizenship (He is not a victim)....Everyone else has to prove their citizenship, what makes Frydemberger think the rules do not apply to him....They should have dealt with this when it first came to light instead of playing the Jewish persecution card to avoid scrutiny....Sack the bastard??? Quote: Mr Staindl's lawyer, Angel Aleksov, said Mr Frydenberg's mother did not renounce her citizenship and even if those rights were temporarily lost during the Communist era, they were restored following the fall of the regime in 1989. :-? :-? :-? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-18/josh-frydenberg-missing-proof-of-citizenship-court-told/11975966 [quote]Josh Frydenberg duel citizen

Who's he having a duel with ?
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His mother???

:) :) :)

crocodile wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 6:19pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 4:25pm: I said when this first came to light that Frydembergers was a scum bag for using the Holocaust to avoid producing proof of his citizenship (He is not a victim)....Everyone else has to prove their citizenship, what makes Frydemberger think the rules do not apply to him....They should have dealt with this when it first came to light instead of playing the Jewish persecution card to avoid scrutiny....Sack the bastard??? Quote: Mr Staindl's lawyer, Angel Aleksov, said Mr Frydenberg's mother did not renounce her citizenship and even if those rights were temporarily lost during the Communist era, they were restored following the fall of the regime in 1989. :-? :-? :-? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-18/josh-frydenberg-missing-proof-of-citizenship-court-told/11975966 [quote]Josh Frydenberg duel citizen

Who's he having a duel with ?
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A real citizen ?

Lefties grabbing at thin air.

juliar wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 6:23pm:

Another bulldust FAKE NEWS effort by the lost in space Lefties to try to drum up a distraction from Labor's very big upcoming catastrophe.

or you lot not knowing how to deal with the fallout from the corona virus and your fake housing bubble debt laidened economy will come toppling down around you :D LOL

Frydenburgs at ten paces - bring your seconds... dawn tomorrow!

"there was no single "piece of paper" to prove his family's renunciation of Hungarian citizenship, strong historical and legal evidence suggested it was "likely"."

Wow - that's a good one - even for a lawyer!  So now citizenship, as well as being an Aboriginal right regardless of citizenship, is only required to be 'likely'?

Maybe he should claim Koonish connection.... (not Cornish, Pascoe.. KOONISH!)

Truly we live in interesting times...

Poor Lefties rummaging thru the ashes trying to find any sort of distraction away from Labor's new round of exciting scandals.


https://i.postimg.cc/1ty2tskv/86665826-3553717701336255-7594056255878987776-o.jpg
AnAl tries to skirt around one or two of Labor's new juicy SCANDALS.

juliar wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:41am:

Poor Lefties rummaging thru the ashes trying to find any sort of distraction away from Labor's new round of exciting scandals. https://i.postimg.cc/1ty2tskv/86665826-3553717701336255-7594056255878987776-o.jpg AnAl tries to skirt around one or two of Labor's new juicy SCANDALS.

Who is distracting apart from you ya dickhead....Is it any wonder politicians are scum with supporters like you???

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Philly is annoyed at this exposure of Labor's new exciting SCANDALS especially as GetUp!'s FAKE NEWS attempts have failed spectacularly to even make a ripple in ScoMo's rise to power.

juliar wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:17am:

Philly is annoyed at this exposure of Labor's new exciting SCANDALS especially as GetUp!'s FAKE NEWS attempts have failed spectacularly to even make a ripple in ScoMo's rise to power.

How is Josh Frydenberg's duel citizenship a Labor scandal....You are an insult to those who at least debate the topic???

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The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191

Poor Philly is so confused he thinks the FAKE NEWS about Josh is another Labor Scandal - but then it is as GetUp! was releasing this FAKE NEWS to try to create a distraction from Labor's juicy new Scandals.

juliar wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 6:23pm:

Another bulldust FAKE NEWS effort by the lost in space Lefties to try to drum up a distraction from Labor's very big upcoming catastrophe.

Do you mean exactly like you've done in the past over Greens Senator Scott Ludlam and Senator Larissa Waters to distract from the Coalition's many woes?

Little. joshy Frightennedturd is just another globalist puppet for the filthy elitist scum, a UN 2030 dog on the leash.

He does nothing in the interests of Australians.

Once Fried Bird has gone thay really should fix this. Probably should have 12 months ago.

I don't mind if reasonable dual citizenship were to be allowed where the second country is reasonable and benign as well as Australia being the country of residence for a long time, at least 10 years but more would be better.

If not solving this issue this way the AEC should be made to take their responsibility more seriously and confirm the eligibility of every applicant.

Is a tick box saying I am Australian really sufficient in this case now that we have the evidence that they all lie ?

We have had Greeks Italians English Kiwi's Indonesians Africans several various other europeans including Irish german etc all representing us as being exclusively Australian. WTF.

And they all got away with it for a long long time mostly multiple terms. 90% were fully aware of their position and none of these were fit to be in an Australian parliament for one single day.

To make it worse some of the worst offenders got themselves re elected. Please tell me how voters can be so stupid ?

juliar wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 5:13pm:

Poor Philly is so confused he thinks the FAKE NEWS about Josh is another Labor Scandal - but then it is as GetUp! was releasing this FAKE NEWS to try to create a distraction from Labor's juicy new Scandals.

Yes he is confused. Thinks Friedburger is having a duel. Pistols at 20 paces.

crocodile wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 6:15pm:

juliar wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 5:13pm: Poor Philly is so confused he thinks the FAKE NEWS about Josh is another Labor Scandal - but then it is as GetUp! was releasing this FAKE NEWS to try to create a distraction from Labor's juicy new Scandals. Yes he is confused. Thinks Friedburger is having a duel. Pistols at 20 paces.

Not exactly unheard of amoung Hungarians especially the ones who didn't want to be German.

Gosh the tired Lefties ares till banging on the empty garbage tin about Joshy. More GetUp! FAKE NEWS bites the dust.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 7:36pm:

crocodile wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:15pm: juliar wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 5:13pm: Poor Philly is so confused he thinks the FAKE NEWS about Josh is another Labor Scandal - but then it is as GetUp! was releasing this FAKE NEWS to try to create a distraction from Labor's juicy new Scandals. Yes he is confused. Thinks Friedburger is having a duel. Pistols at 20 paces. Not exactly unheard of amoung Hungarians especially the ones who didn't want to be German.

The Frogs too. Evariste Galois springs to mind. Such a waste.

A bit more meat on the bones of Frydembergers attempt to avoid the Australian Constitution by using the spectre of the Holocaust to break the law....Then the Prime Minister doubled down and accused those who questioned Frydembergers citizenship of being Anti Semitic....Lying assholes who are using the Holocaust as a shield against the law!!!


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Frydenberg caught out on citizenship lie

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https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/frydenberg-caught-out-on-citizenship-lie,12986

How could he possibly be a citizen of a country that declared his mother stateless?

Did they subsequently inform HER that her citizenship was restored? No.
He was born in Australia, his mother's citizenship was not restored - how could he be a citizen of Hungary? Being eligible to apply for citizenship is not the same as BEING a citizen.


The mongs are just showing off their idiocy around this issue. And of course another issue will be along any moment for them to demonstrate complete stupidity in another light. With mongs it's an endless festival of idiotic spittle-fest.

Philperth - what's in the water in Perth? You out there have a disproportionate load of ijits and loons - you, gweggy, Bwian. Is it because you are cut off from the world?

Gosh the tired Lefties ares till banging on the empty garbage tin about Joshy. More GetUp! FAKE NEWS bites the dust.

Frank wrote on Feb 24^th, 2020 at 6:08pm:

How could he possibly be a citizen of a country that declared his mother stateless? Did they subsequently inform HER that her citizenship was restored? No. He was born in Australia, his mother's citizenship was not restored - how could he be a citizen of Hungary? Being eligible to apply for citizenship is not the same as BEING a citizen. The mongs are just showing off their idiocy around this issue. And of course another issue will be along any moment for them to demonstrate complete stupidity in another light. With mongs it's an endless festival of idiotic spittle-fest. Philperth - what's in the water in Perth? You out there have a disproportionate load of ijits and loons - you, gweggy, Bwian. Is it because you are cut off from the world?

You would have to be as thick as a brick, not to understand the issues with this case, didnt you learn anything about dual citizenship after the last cases?
you call others mongs, yet you havent even taken the time to read the link provided , that shows this liberal piece of crap is lying through his teeth.

Frank wrote on Feb 24^th, 2020 at 6:08pm:

How could he possibly be a citizen of a country that declared his mother stateless?

funny how you never thought that with regard to asylum seekers :D :D :D

Frank wrote on Feb 24^th, 2020 at 6:08pm:

How could he possibly be a citizen of a country that declared his mother stateless? Did they subsequently inform HER that her citizenship was restored? No. He was born in Australia, his mother's citizenship was not restored - how could he be a citizen of Hungary? Being eligible to apply for citizenship is not the same as BEING a citizen. The mongs are just showing off their idiocy around this issue. And of course another issue will be along any moment for them to demonstrate complete stupidity in another light. With mongs it's an endless festival of idiotic spittle-fest. Philperth - what's in the water in Perth? You out there have a disproportionate load of ijits and loons - you, gweggy, Bwian. Is it because you are cut off from the world?

Frydembergers mother left Hungry in 1948, 3 years after the war had ended....Citizenship (if it was ever lost) was restored in 1989 and no documents have been produced to prove Frydembergers mother ever renounced her citizenship which is passed onto her children....The only nong is you who failed to educate yourself on the topic before making a dickhead of yourself???


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Mr Staindl's lawyer, Angel Aleksov, said Mr Frydenberg's mother did not renounce her citizenship and even if those rights were temporarily lost during the Communist era, they were restored following the fall of the regime in 1989.

Why do you pretend you have a clue about anything???

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-18/josh-frydenberg-missing-proof-of-citizenship-court-told/11975966

John Smith wrote on Feb 24^th, 2020 at 6:39pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 24th, 2020 at 6:08pm: How could he possibly be a citizen of a country that declared his mother stateless? funny how you never thought that with regard to asylum seekers :D :D :D

It has been explained but Frank doesn't do facts....He prefers to look stupid!!!

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And the Lefties SO WANT to believe their fantasy but who cares as another GetUp! FAKE NEWS crashes.

Do they think for one moment that the Lib lawyers would not have already checked this out and declared it all OK ?

juliar wrote on Feb 24^th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

And the Lefties SO WANT to believe their fantasy but who cares as another GetUp! FAKE NEWS crashes. Do they think for one moment that the Lib lawyers would not have already checked this out and declared it all OK ?

Just like they did with all the others who were thrown out ?

Remember when we were assured that Baaaanaby was an Aussie.

But it is already done and dusted. You Lefties are chasing a GetUp! invented phantom - just more clumsy amateurish GetUp! FAKE NEWS.

GetUp! urgently needs a distraction to take attention away from all the juicy new Labor scandals that are making ScoMo smile.

juliar wrote on Feb 24^th, 2020 at 7:38pm:

But it is already done and dusted. You Lefties are chasing a GetUp! invented phantom - just more clumsy amateurish GetUp! FAKE NEWS. GetUp! urgently needs a distraction to take attention away from all the juicy new Labor scandals that are making ScoMo smile.

You have GetUp paranoia....Nowhere in the thread has GetUp been quoted....Do you think your ranting bullshit provides anything to any debate....The only purpose you serve is bumping threads that expose the Coalitions corruption....Olay Troll!!!

8-) 8-) 8-)

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 24^th, 2020 at 6:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2020 at 6:39pm: Frank wrote on Feb 24th, 2020 at 6:08pm: How could he possibly be a citizen of a country that declared his mother stateless? funny how you never thought that with regard to asylum seekers :D :D :D It has been explained but Frank doesn't do facts....He prefers to look stupid!!! ::) ::) ::)

But give him his due, he does it so well. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D