Scientifically proven.


https://summit.news/2020/02/12/survey-finds-people-who-identify-as-left-wing-more-likely-to-have-been-diagnosed-with-a-mental-illness/


Quote:

........... A new survey of more than 8,000 people has found that those who identify with left-wing political beliefs are more likely to have been diagnosed with a mental illness. Ann Coulter’s “liberalism is a mental disorder” catchphrase has become something of a clichéd meme, but the data appears to support it.     ................

High intelligence: A risk factor for psychological and physiological overexcitabilities

Abstract
High intelligence is touted as being predictive of positive outcomes including educational success and income level. However, little is known about the difficulties experienced among this population. Specifically, those with a high intellectual capacity (hyper brain) possess overexcitabilities in various domains that may predispose them to certain psychological disorders as well as physiological conditions involving elevated sensory, and altered immune and inflammatory responses (hyper body). The present study surveyed members of American Mensa, Ltd. (n = 3715) in order to explore psychoneuroimmunological (PNI) processes among those at or above the 98th percentile of intelligence. Participants were asked to self-report prevalence of both diagnosed and/or suspected mood and anxiety disorders, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), autism spectrum disorder (ASD), and physiological diseases that include environmental and food allergies, asthma, and autoimmune disease. High statistical significance and a remarkably high relative risk ratio of diagnoses for all examined conditions were confirmed among the Mensa group 2015 data when compared to the national average statistics. This implicates high IQ as being a potential risk factor for affective disorders, ADHD, ASD, and for increased incidence of disease related to immune dysregulation. Preliminary findings strongly support a hyper brain/hyper body association which may have substantial individual and societal implications and warrants further investigation to best identify and serve this at-risk population.

the person credited with the survey has attached certain caveats to his survey which sprinty mistakenly neglected to put up



Quote:

1. Both extreme rightists and extreme leftists are more likely than moderates to have been diagnosed with most conditions. 2. Leftists might be more likely to trust the psychiatric system and get diagnosed. My survey shows some signs of that. Liberals are 60% more likely than conservatives to have formal diagnoses of depression, but only 30% more likely to have a self-diagnosis of depression. 3. Leftists might be more likely to think of their issues through a psychiatric lens than rightists, meaning that even the self-diagnosis numbers might be inflated. 4. The SSC survey is a bad sample to use for this, not just because it’s unrepresentative, but because it might be unrepresentative of different political affiliations in different ways. For example, SSC Marxists really are surprisingly depressed, but maybe the only Marxists who would read an anti-Marxist blog are depressed Marxists looking for things to be miserable and angry about (though see below for some counterevidence).

:D :D

Not sure about that - it seems to me that many 'conservatives' and 'righties' are the purest sociopaths... I know many 'lefties' are the same - narrow ideas and small minds just like the 'right' - that's why I'm happily middle of the road...

Crazy is as crazy does, sir!  As they say down in Green Bow...

mothra wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 3:30am:

High intelligence: A risk factor for psychological and physiological overexcitabilities Abstract High intelligence is touted as being predictive of positive outcomes including educational success and income level. However, little is known about the difficulties experienced among this population. Specifically, those with a high intellectual capacity (hyper brain) possess overexcitabilities in various domains that may predispose them to certain psychological disorders as well as physiological conditions involving elevated sensory, and altered immune and inflammatory responses (hyper body). The present study surveyed members of American Mensa, Ltd. (n = 3715) in order to explore psychoneuroimmunological (PNI) processes among those at or above the 98th percentile of intelligence. Participants were asked to self-report prevalence of both diagnosed and/or suspected mood and anxiety disorders, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), autism spectrum disorder (ASD), and physiological diseases that include environmental and food allergies, asthma, and autoimmune disease. High statistical significance and a remarkably high relative risk ratio of diagnoses for all examined conditions were confirmed among the Mensa group 2015 data when compared to the national average statistics. This implicates high IQ as being a potential risk factor for affective disorders, ADHD, ASD, and for increased incidence of disease related to immune dysregulation. Preliminary findings strongly support a hyper brain/hyper body association which may have substantial individual and societal implications and warrants further investigation to best identify and serve this at-risk population.

I told you not to talk about my mad brother in my hearing .....

My nephew's oldest son is autistic - and top of his class in every subject as well as school captain..

Autistic is as autistic does, as they allus say down in Green Bow.

They do say that the truly mad don't know they are..... look around you.... oh..is that a mirror over there.. or a reflection of something else...

They say there is a fine line between genius and madness.... there are two wolves inside each of us, and the one that prospers is the one we feed most.... we all walk the thin line between madness and sanity... children of two fathers.... children of two mothers........ only the truly strong will survive and come home safe.....

The rest......... they don't know they're mad.... but I'll rely on the opinions heartfelt of the ex's daughter's two dogs - who love to crowd onto my lap whenever we meet... just like the two bull terriers at the mechanic's... they always know who to head for.... some say this is a characteristic of a predominantly Alien DNA as opposed to the ape genes they interbred with... not too sure about that... but I am Rh - ......

Dogs are better judges of character than people...... dogs and little children....... if only they knew the darkness of the soul that is withheld only by will and by courage.....within each of us is a ravening beast just waiting for the right button to be pushed...

(Oops... sorry - waxing lyrical again... damned writer's complex)...

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 15^th, 2020 at 5:45pm:

Scientifically proven. https://summit.news/2020/02/12/survey-finds-people-who-identify-as-left-wing-more-likely-to-have-been-diagnosed-with-a-mental-illness/ Quote: ........... A new survey of more than 8,000 people has found that those who identify with left-wing political beliefs are more likely to have been diagnosed with a mental illness. Ann Coulter’s “liberalism is a mental disorder” catchphrase has become something of a clichéd meme, but the data appears to support it.     ................

I took one look at the author, and automatically decided it was bullshit.

While the survey is by no means scientific,


"no poo sherlock"

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 9:09pm:

the person credited with the survey has attached certain caveats to his survey which sprinty mistakenly neglected to put up Quote: 1. Both extreme rightists and extreme leftists are more likely than moderates to have been diagnosed with most conditions. 2. Leftists might be more likely to trust the psychiatric system and get diagnosed. My survey shows some signs of that. Liberals are 60% more likely than conservatives to have formal diagnoses of depression, but only 30% more likely to have a self-diagnosis of depression. 3. Leftists might be more likely to think of their issues through a psychiatric lens than rightists, meaning that even the self-diagnosis numbers might be inflated. 4. The SSC survey is a bad sample to use for this, not just because it’s unrepresentative, but because it might be unrepresentative of different political affiliations in different ways. For example, SSC Marxists really are surprisingly depressed, but maybe the only Marxists who would read an anti-Marxist blog are depressed Marxists looking for things to be miserable and angry about (though see below for some counterevidence). :D :D

Leftists might be more likely to trust the psychiatric system and get diagnosed. My survey shows some signs of that. Liberals are 60% more likely than conservatives to have formal diagnoses of depression, but only 30% more likely to have a self-diagnosis of depression.



This would be the biggest issue of the whole survey. It was people self reporting. Chances are just as many right-0wingers have mental illnesses that are undiagnosed

If we got your average citizen and placed him on a chair in an empty room he would I have about 5 negative thoughts for every positive thought


Human beings are hardwired to feel negative emotions

This makes evolutionary sense

Of course she should be more scared of the tiger or snake which can take you out
And then it's all over
Meanwhile just how positive can you feel about picking apples from an apple trer
It makes you happy but it's not a life-and-death situation

Knowing that people are more prone to anxiety and depression then to awesomeness
What is the antidote

The antidote is that you have to have a passion and a North Star
You have to bounce out of bed in the morning charged with a desire 2face some challenge and overcome it

It's why lefty politics just does not work.

The left think that happiness will manifest if people are just given enough welfare
Enough free healthcare
Enough free education
Enough free counselling after some or other catastrophe
Enough superannuation
Enough rights

The left think that the route to happiness is to remove the stress and burdens and challenges
And then people will magically manifest a happy disposition

It doesn't work that way
You have to have a challenge to meet
You have to bounce out of bed willing to crawl through the mud to conquer the challenge
And in the facing up to that challenge and fighting the good fight you find your Northstar and your passion

Look at the levels of depression and anxiety amongst welfare recipients
Amongst Aboriginals
The way to help these people is to say

Pick up your cross and bear it with a smile
Be the sort of creature that can feel the strength and power of moving forward up the hill whilst bearing that cross
And then you will have legitimate reason to sit down at the end of the day and reflect on your awesomeness

The left mistake compassion with the permanent infantalised state of despair

Yes we should feel compassion for little babies
For people who are severely injured in a car wreck
And for the very elderly who are weak and feeble

Every other member of society benefits more from a kick up the bum
Then they do from compassion masking uselessness
And big government is usually about compassion masking uselessness

Well we can definitively say the right prefer word jumbles.

I'm saying that not just lefties themselves but leftie policies lead to mental illness
Trump is a good example of this

Suicide rates in the Midwest where skyrocketing under the Obama administration
The Obama administration thought that more healthcare more psychologists more counselling was the answer
How very compassionate of them
Of course it failed and suicide rates continue to skyrocket
so much so that the life expectancy in America dropped for every year of the Obama administration

Trump comes in and says to hell with that
We're going to provide jobs
And then you're on your own buster

And the levels of despair depression and anxiety have dropped
Suicide rates have dropped
Life expectancy is on the increase again

Lefty policies and fake compassion are actually deadly diseases
Genocidal in fact

At a deeper level you can see this in the climate debate
Lefties see humans as a parasite on the planet
lefties council young women not to have many children as they are parasites on the planet
That's just effed up

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:39am:

Suicide rates in the Midwest where skyrocketing under the Obama administration The Obama administration thought that more healthcare more psychologists more counselling was the answer How very compassionate of them Of course it failed and suicide rates continue to skyrocket so much so that the life expectancy in America dropped for every year of the Obama administration Trump comes in and says to hell with that We're going to provide jobs And then you're on your own buster p

Evidence for this?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:48am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 9:39am: Suicide rates in the Midwest where skyrocketing under the Obama administration The Obama administration thought that more healthcare more psychologists more counselling was the answer How very compassionate of them Of course it failed and suicide rates continue to skyrocket so much so that the life expectancy in America dropped for every year of the Obama administration Trump comes in and says to hell with that We're going to provide jobs And then you're on your own buster p Evidence for this?

State of the union address
Trump announce the rise in life expectancy in the state of the union
I would imagine if that was wrong the anxious and depressed lefty media would have pointed it out

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:56am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 9:48am: aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 9:39am: Suicide rates in the Midwest where skyrocketing under the Obama administration The Obama administration thought that more healthcare more psychologists more counselling was the answer How very compassionate of them Of course it failed and suicide rates continue to skyrocket so much so that the life expectancy in America dropped for every year of the Obama administration Trump comes in and says to hell with that We're going to provide jobs And then you're on your own buster p Evidence for this? State of the union address Trump announce the rise in life expectancy in the state of the union I would imagine if that was wrong the anxious and depressed lefty media would have pointed it out

Thats not evidence. I want evidence of the suicide rate.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 10:05am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 9:56am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 9:48am: aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 9:39am: Suicide rates in the Midwest where skyrocketing under the Obama administration The Obama administration thought that more healthcare more psychologists more counselling was the answer How very compassionate of them Of course it failed and suicide rates continue to skyrocket so much so that the life expectancy in America dropped for every year of the Obama administration Trump comes in and says to hell with that We're going to provide jobs And then you're on your own buster p Evidence for this? State of the union address Trump announce the rise in life expectancy in the state of the union I would imagine if that was wrong the anxious and depressed lefty media would have pointed it out Thats not evidence. I want evidence of the suicide rate.

i'll await you apology.

from NPR ( a leftie american site equivalent to our ABC). jan 2020

For the first time since 2014, death rates in the U.S. declined and life expectancy showed a modest uptick, according to new data released in two reports Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Life expectancy at birth in 2018 was 78.7 years, 0.1 year longer than the previous year.

It may seem like a small increase, but for a population of around 350 million, the shift represents improvements in the lives of many people, says the CDC's Bob Anderson, the chief of the Mortality Statistics Branch at the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics, who oversaw the new reports.

"That's a lot of people who ... avoided premature death," he says.

The average lifespan of an American had risen for decades, reaching 78.9 years in 2014. But it took a dip in 2015, held steady in 2016 and dipped again in 2017, largely driven by the steep growth in drug overdose and suicide deaths.

Don't see the graphic above? Click here.

The recent improvement was driven by decreases in death rates from six of the 10 leading causes of death, including a 2.2% decrease in cancer deaths (part of an ongoing downward trend since the 1990s) and a 2.8% fall in deaths from unintentional injuries, which include drug overdoses.

The new numbers show that in 2018, there were 4.1% fewer drug overdose deaths than in 2017, mostly in deaths involving natural and semi-synthetic opioids. That "includes drugs like oxycodone, which are commonly available by prescription," says Anderson. "We [also] saw declines in deaths involving methadone and even ... heroin."

This is good news, says Dr. Daniel Ciccarone, a professor of medicine and an addiction researcher at the University of California, San Francisco. "It's really the first positive change that we've seen in a 20-year-long trend of drug overdose deaths."

As the new report shows, drug overdose deaths had risen every year since 1999, until 2018.




seems that when trump  helps people they feel strong and stop overdosing.
when lefties try to help, they feel weak and infantalised and hopeless

https://wlrh.org/NPR-News/life-expectancy-rose-slightly-2018-drug-overdose-deaths-fell

None of those are suicide stats.

can we agree that under president trump, opiod overdoses have dropped by 4.1 % ?

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 1:01pm:

can we agree that under president trump, opiod overdoses have dropped by 4.1 % ?

I can agree with that, Id debate that the drop is entirely due to Trump.  Whilst Trump has done some things, Obama did some things, and there have also been plenty of state based efforts


But then again, I didn't ask about the opioid epidemic, I asked about those suicide stats

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 1:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 1:01pm: can we agree that under president trump, opiod overdoses have dropped by 4.1 % ? I can agree with that, Id debate that the drop is entirely due to Trump.  Whilst Trump has done some things, Obama did some things, and there have also been plenty of state based efforts But then again, I didn't ask about the opioid epidemic, I asked about those suicide stats

can we agree that opiod overdose deaths amongst males in the 20 to 50 yo age group was a major cause (perhaps THE major cause ) in americas life expectancy dropping between 2014 and 2018 ?

can we then agree that perhaps men in the 20 to 50 yo age group feel slightly more optomistic under president trump

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 1:11pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 1:05pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 1:01pm: can we agree that under president trump, opiod overdoses have dropped by 4.1 % ? I can agree with that, Id debate that the drop is entirely due to Trump.  Whilst Trump has done some things, Obama did some things, and there have also been plenty of state based efforts But then again, I didn't ask about the opioid epidemic, I asked about those suicide stats can we agree that opiod overdose deaths amongst males in the 20 to 50 yo age group was a major cause (perhaps THE major cause ) in americas life expectancy dropping between 2014 and 2018 ? can we then agree that perhaps men in the 20 to 50 yo age group feel slightly more optomistic under president trump

No, can you just answer my question about the suicide stats

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 15^th, 2020 at 5:45pm:

Scientifically proven.

No.

From your own link:

"While the survey is by no means scientific ..."

Yes, you only have to consider Pessary, Mimo, Mothball, Arsie, Damaged DNA, Whiteshyte..........all leftwing plonkers.....

Lib and Lab voters suffer mental illness - Insanity is voting in the major parties over and over and getting the same darkie and bush fire result every time

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 1:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 1:11pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 1:05pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 1:01pm: can we agree that under president trump, opiod overdoses have dropped by 4.1 % ? I can agree with that, Id debate that the drop is entirely due to Trump.  Whilst Trump has done some things, Obama did some things, and there have also been plenty of state based efforts But then again, I didn't ask about the opioid epidemic, I asked about those suicide stats can we agree that opiod overdose deaths amongst males in the 20 to 50 yo age group was a major cause (perhaps THE major cause ) in americas life expectancy dropping between 2014 and 2018 ? can we then agree that perhaps men in the 20 to 50 yo age group feel slightly more optomistic under president trump No, can you just answer my question about the suicide stats

It appears that he can't.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:39am:

I'm saying that not just lefties themselves but leftie policies lead to mental illness Trump is a good example of this Suicide rates in the Midwest where skyrocketing under the Obama administration The Obama administration thought that more healthcare more psychologists more counselling was the answer How very compassionate of them Of course it failed and suicide rates continue to skyrocket so much so that the life expectancy in America dropped for every year of the Obama administration Trump comes in and says to hell with that We're going to provide jobs And then you're on your own buster And the levels of despair depression and anxiety have dropped Suicide rates have dropped Life expectancy is on the increase again Lefty policies and fake compassion are actually deadly diseases Genocidal in fact At a deeper level you can see this in the climate debate Lefties see humans as a parasite on the planet lefties council young women not to have many children as they are parasites on the planet That's just effed up

i honestly think you have some sort of mental illness ... i just don't know what. There's something definitely wrong with you.

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 5:11pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 9:39am: I'm saying that not just lefties themselves but leftie policies lead to mental illness Trump is a good example of this Suicide rates in the Midwest where skyrocketing under the Obama administration The Obama administration thought that more healthcare more psychologists more counselling was the answer How very compassionate of them Of course it failed and suicide rates continue to skyrocket so much so that the life expectancy in America dropped for every year of the Obama administration Trump comes in and says to hell with that We're going to provide jobs And then you're on your own buster And the levels of despair depression and anxiety have dropped Suicide rates have dropped Life expectancy is on the increase again Lefty policies and fake compassion are actually deadly diseases Genocidal in fact At a deeper level you can see this in the climate debate Lefties see humans as a parasite on the planet lefties council young women not to have many children as they are parasites on the planet That's just effed up i honestly think you have some sort of mental illness ... i just don't know what. There's something definitely wrong with you.

i think if some one was living a life that was a trainwreck and he saw someone who was crushing it....he couldnt comprehend the other.

i often feel like a cheerful dude , buzzing off my own awesomeness, walking down the street and then the lefties on here, seem like some homeless guy who comes up "give me some change, i need some change".

they are in such scarcity
they are living lives of "pure coping".
they think everyone is "just trying to cope with this rough world"

they dont understand the paradigm shift that would get them out of pain and make them strong  powerful resilient individuals who took extreme ownership of every problem and loved their problems.

problems (to the chode) make him cry out for help (help me scomo)
problems to the noble superior man make him expand into something bigger and stronger and blast upwards to the next paradigm

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 5:11pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 9:39am: I'm saying that not just lefties themselves but leftie policies lead to mental illness Trump is a good example of this Suicide rates in the Midwest where skyrocketing under the Obama administration The Obama administration thought that more healthcare more psychologists more counselling was the answer How very compassionate of them Of course it failed and suicide rates continue to skyrocket so much so that the life expectancy in America dropped for every year of the Obama administration Trump comes in and says to hell with that We're going to provide jobs And then you're on your own buster And the levels of despair depression and anxiety have dropped Suicide rates have dropped Life expectancy is on the increase again Lefty policies and fake compassion are actually deadly diseases Genocidal in fact At a deeper level you can see this in the climate debate Lefties see humans as a parasite on the planet lefties council young women not to have many children as they are parasites on the planet That's just effed up i honestly think you have some sort of mental illness ... i just don't know what. There's something definitely wrong with you.

Yep kicked in the head reshoeing his horses too many times!

;D ;D ;D

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 5:23pm:

i think if some one was living a life that was a trainwreck and he saw someone who was crushing it....he couldnt comprehend the other.

most people suffering from mental illness are the last to know... it's only when those around them tell them something is wrong that they start to realise.

As my good deed for the day, I'm telling you .......... seek help.

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 5:11pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 9:39am: I'm saying that not just lefties themselves but leftie policies lead to mental illness Trump is a good example of this Suicide rates in the Midwest where skyrocketing under the Obama administration The Obama administration thought that more healthcare more psychologists more counselling was the answer How very compassionate of them Of course it failed and suicide rates continue to skyrocket so much so that the life expectancy in America dropped for every year of the Obama administration Trump comes in and says to hell with that We're going to provide jobs And then you're on your own buster And the levels of despair depression and anxiety have dropped Suicide rates have dropped Life expectancy is on the increase again Lefty policies and fake compassion are actually deadly diseases Genocidal in fact At a deeper level you can see this in the climate debate Lefties see humans as a parasite on the planet lefties council young women not to have many children as they are parasites on the planet That's just effed up i honestly think you have some sort of mental illness ... i just don't know what. There's something definitely wrong with you.

Aqua's posts are based on rugged individualism like in the old times and when charity was voluntary. Today we have "needy" collective herd individualism with "demand" charity on tap, and they like to blame others for their woes

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 6:19pm:

Aqua's posts are based on rugged individualism like in the old times and when charity was voluntary. Today we have "needy" collective herd individualism with "demand" charity on tap, and they like to blame others for their woes

you realise aqua is just repeating the same drivel he reads in his self help books, right?


individualism  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D that was funny

Quote:

Re: Leftys are more prone to mental illnesses

Mental illness is just more noticeable in the left because we don't all have it.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 5:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 5:11pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 9:39am: I'm saying that not just lefties themselves but leftie policies lead to mental illness Trump is a good example of this Suicide rates in the Midwest where skyrocketing under the Obama administration The Obama administration thought that more healthcare more psychologists more counselling was the answer How very compassionate of them Of course it failed and suicide rates continue to skyrocket so much so that the life expectancy in America dropped for every year of the Obama administration Trump comes in and says to hell with that We're going to provide jobs And then you're on your own buster And the levels of despair depression and anxiety have dropped Suicide rates have dropped Life expectancy is on the increase again Lefty policies and fake compassion are actually deadly diseases Genocidal in fact At a deeper level you can see this in the climate debate Lefties see humans as a parasite on the planet lefties council young women not to have many children as they are parasites on the planet That's just effed up i honestly think you have some sort of mental illness ... i just don't know what. There's something definitely wrong with you. i think if some one was living a life that was a trainwreck and he saw someone who was crushing it....he couldnt comprehend the other. i often feel like a cheerful dude , buzzing off my own awesomeness, walking down the street and then the lefties on here, seem like some homeless guy who comes up "give me some change, i need some change". they are in such scarcity they are living lives of "pure coping". they think everyone is "just trying to cope with this rough world" they dont understand the paradigm shift that would get them out of pain and make them strong  powerful resilient individuals who took extreme ownership of every problem and loved their problems. problems (to the chode) make him cry out for help (help me scomo) problems to the noble superior man make him expand into something bigger and stronger and blast upwards to the next paradigm

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Thanks aqua, now how about those suicide stats I was asking for.

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 7:53pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 6:19pm: Aqua's posts are based on rugged individualism like in the old times and when charity was voluntary. Today we have "needy" collective herd individualism with "demand" charity on tap, and they like to blame others for their woes you realise aqua is just repeating the same drivel he reads in his self help books, right? individualism  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D that was funny

Are you saying we're not individuals in a collective? God help us if we lose every skerrick of our individual selves, I know it's happening pretty fast, but it's not wise towing the collective line all the time. Look what happened to civilizations that did that

Even Australia's revered globalist progressive humanist do-gooder collective will change soon enough, and it will be independent individual thinkers who will work out improvements and changes in our psyche which at the moment is basically a very compliant psyche adapting and living by every collective cliche that comes along

The new changes will be applying human rights that are strange to Australians at the moment. If do-gooders rave about human rights, then let's apply them all, not just the ones that suit them and their agendas. Applying just some but ignoring the rest is a big mistake and the cause of continual societal conflict. They are additional to United Nations derived human rights, the UN failed to list them all in their Charter 

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 11:17am:

Are you saying we're not individuals in a collective?

where did you get that from? ... I'm saying horseboy is not an individual  ::)

People on the left tend to be more intelligent and take their healthcare seriously and will be properly diagnosed.  The right just lash out and gun people down rather than getting help.

See, I can make dumb generalisations too.