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Message started by Yadda on Jan 27th, 2020 at 10:04am

Title: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by Yadda on Jan 27th, 2020 at 10:04am

"This is the power of leftist ideology."



< ------ UNREASON [is the power of LEFTIST ideology].




Quote:

.....This is the power of leftist ideology.

Facts will not be considered if they tend to undermine prevailing views.....


https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/02/mosques-learning-curve-needed/#comment-527802



So, so true.  !!!

Political LEFTISTS can afford to ignore the truth, whenever it contradicts LEFTIST/Marxist ideology.

This is because the LEFTIST can demonstrate [to his own psyche] [with his HUMANIST arguments] that his LEFTIST ideology, is more moral than the ideology of those who do not agree with his position/opinion.

/sarc off


HUMANIST arguments = = Politically Correct arguments.



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Neither contradicting Reason, nor any contradicting truth,       have any place [i.e. cannot be tolerated!] in the 'universe' of the LEFTIST/Marxist ideologue.


ideologue = = a dogmatic or uncompromising adherent of an ideology.




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"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
- George Orwell


"The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
- George Orwell


"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
- George Orwell            [even if this quote is mis-attributed to Orwell, the pursuit of truth remains a great virtue]


"It is difficult to see how Gandhi's methods could be applied in a country where opponents of the regime disappear in the middle of the night and are never heard of again. Without a free press and the right of assembly, it is impossible not merely to appeal to outside opinion, but to bring a mass movement into being, or even to make your intentions known to your adversary."
- George Orwell


"If thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought."
- George Orwell


"England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality."
- George Orwell


"I consider that willingness to criticize Russia and Stalin is the test of intellectual honesty."
- George Orwell, to his friend John Middleton Murry, a wartime pacifist


"Nothing is gained by teaching a parrot a new word. What is needed is the right to print what one believes to be true, without having to fear bullying or blackmail from any side."
- George Orwell
ideology vs. truth


"To admit that an opponent might be both honest and intelligent is felt to be intolerable.
It is more immediately satisfying to shout that he is a fool or a scoundrel, or both, than to find out what he is really like."
- George Orwell


There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
- Herbert Spencer


"There are two ways to be fooled [deceived].
One way is to believe what is not true.
The other is to refuse to accept what is true."
- Soren Kierkegaard



Speaking to the blind and fundamental [extremist!] error, of those who worship, within the temple of Political Correctness....

"If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error."
- J.S. Mill - English philosopher - on people who try to silence opinions with which they disagree



On life as a political dissident.....
"If you want to enter hell, don't complain of the dark; you can't blame the world for being unfair if you start on the path of the rebel."
- Liu Xiaobo - he wrote in 1992




The insanity generated by blind adherence to political-correctness demands that we protect Muslim hate speech while condemning anyone who dares to criticize it.
'Ron'
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11987/us-mosques-muslims-incitement




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philosophy = = the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence.    a set of theories of a particular philosopher.





Title: Re: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by Raven on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:00pm
So.... Religion?


Quote:
Facts will not be considered if they tend to undermine prevailing views.....


Didn't realise you considered religion left wing Yadda.

Makes sense though. The Nazarene was pretty left wing.

Title: Re: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by Dnarever on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:18pm

Yadda wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 10:04am:

"This is the power of leftist ideology."



< ------ UNREASON [is the power of LEFTIST ideology].




Quote:

.....This is the power of leftist ideology.

Facts will not be considered if they tend to undermine prevailing views.....


https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/02/mosques-learning-curve-needed/#comment-527802



So, so true.  !!!

Political LEFTISTS can afford to ignore the truth, whenever it contradicts LEFTIST/Marxist ideology.

This is because the LEFTIST can demonstrate [to his own psyche] [with his HUMANIST arguments] that his LEFTIST ideology, is more moral than the ideology of those who do not agree with his position/opinion.

/sarc off


HUMANIST arguments = = Politically Correct arguments.



.



Neither contradicting Reason, nor any contradicting truth,       have any place [i.e. cannot be tolerated!] in the 'universe' of the LEFTIST/Marxist ideologue.


ideologue = = a dogmatic or uncompromising adherent of an ideology.




.




"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
- George Orwell


"The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
- George Orwell


"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
- George Orwell            [even if this quote is mis-attributed to Orwell, the pursuit of truth remains a great virtue]


"It is difficult to see how Gandhi's methods could be applied in a country where opponents of the regime disappear in the middle of the night and are never heard of again. Without a free press and the right of assembly, it is impossible not merely to appeal to outside opinion, but to bring a mass movement into being, or even to make your intentions known to your adversary."
- George Orwell


"If thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought."
- George Orwell


"England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality."
- George Orwell


"I consider that willingness to criticize Russia and Stalin is the test of intellectual honesty."
- George Orwell, to his friend John Middleton Murry, a wartime pacifist


"Nothing is gained by teaching a parrot a new word. What is needed is the right to print what one believes to be true, without having to fear bullying or blackmail from any side."
- George Orwell
ideology vs. truth


"To admit that an opponent might be both honest and intelligent is felt to be intolerable.
It is more immediately satisfying to shout that he is a fool or a scoundrel, or both, than to find out what he is really like."
- George Orwell


There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
- Herbert Spencer


"There are two ways to be fooled [deceived].
One way is to believe what is not true.
The other is to refuse to accept what is true."
- Soren Kierkegaard



Speaking to the blind and fundamental [extremist!] error, of those who worship, within the temple of Political Correctness....

"If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error."
- J.S. Mill - English philosopher - on people who try to silence opinions with which they disagree



On life as a political dissident.....
"If you want to enter hell, don't complain of the dark; you can't blame the world for being unfair if you start on the path of the rebel."
- Liu Xiaobo - he wrote in 1992




The insanity generated by blind adherence to political-correctness demands that we protect Muslim hate speech while condemning anyone who dares to criticize it.
'Ron'
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11987/us-mosques-muslims-incitement




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philosophy = = the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence.    a set of theories of a particular philosopher.



Quote:
Facts will not be considered if they tend to undermine prevailing views


Typical of the bat shite crazy right - MAKE CLAIMS ABOUT FACTS BUT NEVER EVER USE ANY.

Lots of words here but no facts to support any of it.

The truth about fact is typically the exact opposite as you clearly demonstrate.

A lot of quotes and a lot if ideological inferences and psychological babble but nothing supporting the title.

Title: Re: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by Bias_2012 on Feb 27th, 2020 at 2:26am
There's facts alright

Darkies home invade and they also slash and bash people, sometime killing the victims - that's a fact

Here's another fact, muslims kill people in the streets, and in service stations, and in units

These facts are caused by the power of leftist ideology holding sway over the Lib politicians who are as weak as water, they've fallen into the trap of the lefty progressives, and can't get out

This upsets the balance of the Feast and Famine Variable in their minds. Subconsciously they now think like a lefty progressive while presenting a conservative face to the public talking about the economy, jobs, coal and royal commissions - anything to avoid true conservative issues like law and order and moral conduct. They use cliches and stating the obvious now. These don't displease the lefty progressives because the lefties use them too

So what we have are two lots of people, call them Libs and Labs if you like, who are on the same "globalist" side but anxious to prove they can ignore crime better than the other one can. Ignoring crime is the new normal

The mayor of London said we have to live with muslim killing sprees, meaning, just die when a muslim attacks you and don't complain

There is a thing called the Feast and Famine Variable and it is very important to every human being, every human has one deep in their mind, but it must be balanced, an equal amount of feast to an equal amount of famine. In the human mind the balance varies very little. It's similar to blood pH level, in physical terms, but our blood pH is automatically adjusted, however, if we take too many prescription drugs or other detriments in high quantities, blood pH gets out of whack and illness sets in, possibly death if something isn't done to bring it back in balance

What all this lefty progressive politics has done to the F/F Variable, is throw it so far out of balance, it's become unhealthy for society. Globalist progressive politics is feeding only one side of the Variable, when both sides should be fed in equal amounts. Just as our blood pH needs to be in balance, so should our Feast and Famine Variable

If the lefty progressives tell you they have given society plenty of feast, don't believe them because it doesn't work like that, they are feeding only one side of the Variable in our minds, they have inadvertently hijacked the other side and it will be destroyed if they are allowed to carry on the way they are. We need both sides working in equilibrium to survive as balanced human beings.

This is why I disassociated myself from the two major parties, they are both moving down a path that is contrary to the natural mechanisms in our minds. The F/F Variable is one, and the Cyclical Emotions & Moods is another. Understanding these is vital for a peaceful and relatively crime free society.

I used to plot both those mechanisms, I could do it again if I felt like it, but I got familiar with them and that familiarity made an enormous difference to my life. I don't think in terms of "left" and "right" any longer, I think in terms of feast and famine. In the case of politics, it's who is being deprived of their politics, and who is dominating with another politics. If one is continually dominating, as we see with globalist progressive politics, the others are being deprived of theirs, which the lefties try to make out is racist nazi politics, this is not the case because we see people with conservative views for Australia elected to parliament

If we had any sense, we would ease up on voting for globalist progressive politics and start voting for more conservatism and consider the Australian ethos for a change, minus the excesses of lefty progressive politics. That would go a long way to bringing us back to equilibrium


Title: Re: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2024 at 5:59pm
Recognising difference - bad. No tg recognising difference - bad.


In ethical terms, health care systems are supposed to be "blind" to culture, offering the same level of care and respect to all patients regardless of background. Programs promoting diversity and inclusivity in health care are designed to further this aim - and yet for immigrants and other minorities, the practice can fall far from the ideal.

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/philosopherszone/health-care-ethics-otherness-and-belonging/104453436

This passes for research and knowledge:

At a time when national identities are being reasserted in Western Europe alongside moral and intellectual visions of a cosmopolitan order more inclusive than nationalism, what does belonging mean for immigrants who are non-Europeans, particularly for women from South Asia, Africa and the Middle East? Based on the lived experiences of 23 women of diverse backgrounds, who are first-generation immigrants, regarding their experiences while accessing the healthcare system in Zurich, Switzerland, I illustrate through migrant experiences how Othering and belonging are experienced within the web of chaotic meanings and social space one navigates. By employing a phenomenological–sociological approach, I present how embodied migrant experiences can capture the experiences of being an 'Other', as well as how moral emotions such as shame and humiliation can influence one's moral self and its significance to everyday moral discourse. While much of the academic discourse around belonging focuses on a place and its related connectedness to one's racial, gender and ethnic identity, here, I analyse cosmopolitanism's possibilities through Othering/belonging experiences within the healthcare context, and beyond. I conclude this paper with the key contributions of the ethics of belonging to the normative discourse on migration health.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1467-9566.13829

What a load of mish mash nonsense. Judith Butler, you should be proud.


Title: Re: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by Frank on Feb 8th, 2025 at 7:46am
I think people have been far too accepting of views that they knew were unacceptable in all schools, but even more so in the academy.

BW: Like the idea that America is bad or evil, or not the greatest? I heard that language every single day that I was in college. And no one challenged it.

SSM: Exactly. It’s a big thing. It’s like the idea that you can reverse history, go back in history and then adjudicate it. Who was right and who was wrong? That particular ideology has taken over much of university life, and we didn’t really notice it. We were sort of all taught it, but we didn’t really take it seriously, and we didn’t realise that it could have real-life effects.

To call October 7 a wake-up call is an understatement. People who we trusted – professors, journalists, charity workers – suddenly started celebrating the killing of ­civilians, the murder of grandmothers, the rape of girls, and the stealing of people as an act of war. And that was a terrible moment. I think we all went through it, and it was astonishing. That day, I remember watching professors who were at Harvard and Yale and Princeton suddenly saying ‘This is just a wonderful act of resistance’. And that was terrifying, wasn’t it?
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/the-golden-age-for-jews-is-over/news-story/ed7cdc473884119d006b03a71904dbeb


The collapse of the Soviet was not the end of history, as Fukuyama thought,  but the  loss of confidence, the loss of civilisational confidence, by the West. It has all been bumbling, stumbling gaucherie.

That's why expressions of cultural, civilisational confidence by some Western leaders were characterised by the leftards as 'far right'. But after the small ways of Wilders, Farrage, Le Pen, Orban, AfD, True Finns, DPP,  Swedish Democrats etc, we now have Trump going through the American leftard establishment like the blazes.
Marx's prediction is finally happening, just not as he imagined: the revolution does start in America or Britain.


Title: Re: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by John Smith on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:53am
so the forums right wing religious nutter is now claiming religion is leftist ideology


you couldn't make this shit up :D :D :D

Title: Re: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by Frank on Feb 8th, 2025 at 11:54am

John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:53am:
so the forums right wing religious nutter is now claiming religion is leftist ideology


you couldn't make this shit up :D :D :D


Shurely shome mishtake! What have you misunderstood this time, thicko as mince-o???  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by John Smith on Feb 8th, 2025 at 11:56am

Frank wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 11:54am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:53am:
so the forums right wing religious nutter is now claiming religion is leftist ideology


you couldn't make this shit up :D :D :D


Shurely shome mishtake! What have you misunderstood this time, thicko as mince-o???  ;D ;D ;D


you once told me you were educated ... I guess I must have misunderstood since everything since has shown you to be a complete moron

Title: Re: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by Frank on Feb 8th, 2025 at 12:17pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 11:56am:

Frank wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 11:54am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:53am:
so the forums right wing religious nutter is now claiming religion is leftist ideology


you couldn't make this shit up :D :D :D


Shurely shome mishtake! What have you misunderstood this time, thicko as mince-o???  ;D ;D ;D


you once told me you were educated ... I guess I must have misunderstood since everything since has shown you to be a complete moron


You misunderstand everything, thicko. With gleeful relish.  You are like Martini in One Few Over the Cuckoo's Nest.  You pass your imaginary ball to people only you can see.


Title: Re: This is the power of leftist ideology.
Post by Frank on Sep 24th, 2025 at 5:07pm
The Guardian Australia—basically an ideological sister organisation to the ABC—recently admitted in one of the Guardian’s cash-begging emails that its own readers are selfish trash.

Some background: unlike the ABC, the Guardian is funded by advertising and reader donations. The donation component means that the Guardian can provide us with a very accurate assessment of leftist generosity as it applies to their own leftist money.

It isn’t a pretty story. “Dear reader,” that begging email began, “We’re funded by just 2.4 per cent of our readers.”

Then it’s exactly the same as Australia’s tax system. To borrow from former Prime Minister Tony Abbott, the lifters are propping up the leaners. “So, if you’re in the other 97.6 per cent,” the email continued, “please consider supporting our agenda-free journalism.”

If you truly believe the Guardian’s journalism is “agenda-free”, you deserve to lose all of your money and more.
Tim Blair



The ABC would collapse overnight if it was funded only by the subscriptions of the Bbwiyawns of this world.



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