Australian Politics Forum
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl
Member Run Boards >> Environment >> CSIRO release temp chart
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1579005183

Message started by .JaSin. on Jan 14th, 2020 at 10:33pm

Title: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 14th, 2020 at 10:33pm
The gradual change in Aust climate.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-14/bureau-of-meteorology-chart-shows-how-temperatures-soared/11857404?fbclid=IwAR14JKHDtOa0zV2QQFHjpyA4aWKixO7pPJCHcsSWlc_5pFtBGgDKJ_n2wTY

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 14th, 2020 at 10:33pm
Looks like the country was green - then kinda caught fire in the end.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Ajax on Jan 14th, 2020 at 11:09pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 10:33pm:
The gradual change in Aust climate.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-14/bureau-of-meteorology-chart-shows-how-temperatures-soared/11857404?fbclid=IwAR14JKHDtOa0zV2QQFHjpyA4aWKixO7pPJCHcsSWlc_5pFtBGgDKJ_n2wTY


Ok that's fine.

But now that we know 50 countries around the world are conducting weather and climate change experiments what proportion of these changes can be attributed to climate change and what proportion can be attributed to the experiments.

Talk about muddying the waters......!



Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Ajax on Jan 14th, 2020 at 11:12pm
Keep in mind these twits for scientists don't really know the consequences of these experiments and what effect they are having on our weather patterns.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 15th, 2020 at 1:01pm
Re: CSIRO release temp chart

Shouldn't that be BoM? Those who use ACORN series of data adjustments.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 15th, 2020 at 2:22pm

Ajax wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 11:12pm:
Keep in mind these twits for scientists don't really know the consequences of these experiments and what effect they are having on our weather patterns.

They're just trying to play God.

Meanwhile some Brewer in Australia has invented an 'Algae-Filter' that turns the CO2 output from his fermentations, into OXYGEN (into the atmosphere).



Good news considering the 'air' or atmosphere is 'thinning'.
Let alone the quality of it all these days.  ::)

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Redmond Neck on Jan 16th, 2020 at 3:15pm
We had ten spots of rain here today so far!

Wow climate change is real! 

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 16th, 2020 at 3:22pm
If the world is getting warmer.
Then expect more Volcanic eruptions and other extreme weather circumstances far greater in their intensity.
And we haven't even evolved to protect ourselves from Meteors yet.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Redmond Neck on Jan 16th, 2020 at 4:22pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
We had ten spots of rain here today so far!

Wow climate change is real! 


Now its pissing down with thunder and lightning!

Climate is definitely changing here even hail!

In fact hail all over the lawn!


Holy sh1t the cat is having a panic running around the house!



Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Frank on Jan 16th, 2020 at 5:07pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 10:33pm:
The gradual change in Aust climate.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-14/bureau-of-meteorology-chart-shows-how-temperatures-soared/11857404?fbclid=IwAR14JKHDtOa0zV2QQFHjpyA4aWKixO7pPJCHcsSWlc_5pFtBGgDKJ_n2wTY



Is this caused by not putting a price on carbon? Or by not having 100% renewable energy generation?

No.



Is it cause by going from 375 particle per million CO2 about 50 years ago to 400ppm now - a change of 0.0024% of the CO2 content of the atmosphere.

No.





All those subsidies for solar panels, all the increase in electricity pricing made zero difference to the climate and the bush fires. The ONLY thing that could have mitigated the fires - reduction of fuel loads has been severely curtailed on 'environmental and biodiversity preservation' grounds. But all that 'environment' and all that biodiversity' is now completely burnt to the ground.

Green-left ideology causes nothing but misery and devastation.



Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 16th, 2020 at 5:28pm
doesn't matter what you put up proving otherwise, the anti science deniers will bury their heads in the sand and pretend they know better.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 16th, 2020 at 5:54pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 5:28pm:
doesn't matter what you put up proving otherwise, the anti science deniers will bury their heads in the sand and pretend they know better.



John doing a little introspection. ;)

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 16th, 2020 at 6:45pm

lee wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 5:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 5:28pm:
doesn't matter what you put up proving otherwise, the anti science deniers will bury their heads in the sand and pretend they know better.



John doing a little introspection. ;)


do you really need me to explain to you what an 'anti science denier' is? ::)

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 16th, 2020 at 7:05pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 6:45pm:
do you really need me to explain to you what an 'anti science denier' is?



You mean you know? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
edit: Sorry petal that was cruel.

An "anti science denier" obviously denies anti science. ;)

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 16th, 2020 at 7:34pm

lee wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 7:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 6:45pm:
do you really need me to explain to you what an 'anti science denier' is?



You mean you know? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
edit: Sorry petal that was cruel.

An "anti science denier" obviously denies anti science. ;)


obviously you haven't a clue. like everything you comment on.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 16th, 2020 at 7:39pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 7:34pm:
obviously you haven't a clue. like everything you comment on.



poor petal. Can't even parse a phrase as to what he wants it to mean. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Perhaps you meant anti science or even a science denier. But you need to make up your mind. And of course prove it. ;)

Of course if you want to go with anti science denier you would need to reference it. ;)

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Ayn Marx on Jan 17th, 2020 at 8:21am

lee wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 7:39pm:
poor petal. Can't even parse a phrase as to what he wants it to mean. ;

May I suggest anyone able to construct a sequence of words such as the above is in no position to criticise other’s use of English grammar.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Ayn Marx on Jan 17th, 2020 at 8:28am

John Smith wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 5:28pm:
doesn't matter what you put up proving otherwise, the anti science deniers will bury their heads in the sand and pretend they know better.

So true. However, this isn’t the only stupidity amplified by addiction to on-line echo-chambers where the ignorant of all pursuations, left, right and silly centre, delude themselves their weird conspiracy theories have substance.

The real problem for us now is these sad people have the right to vote.
The second problem is by the time reality slaps them in the face (or lungs?) it will be too late to repair the damage to the only planet we have. 
Our species deserves it’s own extinction.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 17th, 2020 at 7:03pm
I see a grammar nazi has arrived. ;)

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Frank on Jan 18th, 2020 at 6:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 16th, 2020 at 5:28pm:
doesn't matter what you put up proving otherwise, the anti science deniers will bury their heads in the sand and pretend they know better.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Don't big-note yourself, Calabruian peasant.  You understand the science like you understand the theory of relativity.

Being a peasant, you mertely bow to wht you perceive as an authority.

Your subservient heart , not your 'mind' (ahem  :P :P :P) makes you side with Greta.

In short - you are an ignorant heard animal. You do not actually understand anything.  All you do is rally, Benito, like a good Italian.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsTqJjDG2Xo








Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 18th, 2020 at 6:39pm
hey sore end, why change your nick name to Frank .... was sore end a little to close for comfort?
and unlike you dopey, I've never claimed to understand all the science behind it. The problem is when idiots like you mistakenly think they understand the science but actually don't understand sh1t.



Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 18th, 2020 at 7:35pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 6:39pm:
and unlike you dopey, I've never claimed to understand all the science behind it.



The trouble is you understand none of it. ;)

BTW - Nice quote by Hawking. He should have listened to his own advice.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 18th, 2020 at 7:42pm
Hawking is the opposite of a 7ft Labourer with brain damage.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:04pm

lee wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 7:35pm:
The trouble is you understand none of it


Unlike you, I understand enough to know that I ought to leave it to the experts.

you, on the other hand, think you understand, without actually understanding anything, and as a result refuse to listen to the experts.


now go ahead, go and cherry pick another comment from the IPC or someone else so as to show me how clever you are :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:13pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:04pm:
Unlike you, I understand enough to know that I ought to leave it to the experts.



Now all you have to do is learn who are the actual experts. ;)


John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:04pm:
you, on the other hand, think you understand, without actually understanding anything, and as a result refuse to listen to the experts.



Which experts petal? Those 21 you have so far refused to name? ;)


John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:04pm:
now go ahead, go and cherry pick another comment from the IPC or someone else so as to show me how clever you are



Poor petal. I assume you mean the IPCC. The IPCC is supposed to be the combined expertise of the preeminent experts. Why then should they not be quoted?

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Frank on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:26pm
The 'experts' spout what their masters want them to.   Surrendering to 'experts' is for subservient idiots.

All totalitarian regimes have been supported and justified  by 'experts'.  And theybsuceeded because of the idiots like benito here, who have all been eager to surrender all their responsibilities to 'experts'.


You are the herd that fascists and communists thrive on, John 'bozo' Smith - mindless, subservient and screaming all about it.





Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:47pm

Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:26pm:
The 'experts' spout what their masters want them to.   Surrendering to 'experts' is for subservient idiots.



yeah ... much better to listen to lord monkton and his ilk ;D ;D ;D

and don't pretend the climate change deniers aren't spouting what their masters tell them. The top five oil companies (ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch Shell, Chevron, BP, and Total) spent over $1B on anti climate change propoganda. and you were stupid enough to fall for it ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:49pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:47pm:
The top five oil companies (ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch Shell, Chevron, BP, and Total) spent over $1B on anti climate change propoganda. and you were stupid enough to fall for it


Over how many years petal? How does that stack up against Rockefellers and Greenpeace to name just two?

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:52pm

lee wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:13pm:
Now all you have to do is learn who are the actual experts. Wink


I know enough to know that you're definitely not an expert


lee wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:13pm:
Which experts petal? Those 21 you have so far refused to name? Wink


To bad for you that you're not very good at this .... the only one who has gone on about 21 experts is you.  ;D ;D ;D


lee wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:13pm:
Why then should they not be quoted?


no one said they shouldn't be quoted. The important part of my statement was that you cherry pick your quotes, while ignoring everything else they say. Go on, pretend to be clever again, i need another laugh. ;D ;D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:53pm

Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:26pm:
The 'experts' spout what their masters want them to.   Surrendering to 'experts' is for subservient idiots.

All totalitarian regimes have been supported and justified  by 'experts'.  And theybsuceeded because of the idiots like benito here, who have all been eager to surrender all their responsibilities to 'experts'.


You are the herd that fascists and communists thrive on, John 'bozo' Smith - mindless, subservient and screaming all about it.


you should seek help sore end ... seeing commo's everywhere, you know they have medication for that, right?

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:30pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:52pm:
I know enough to know that you're definitely not an expert



And nowhere have I claimed to be.  ;)


John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:52pm:
To bad for you that you're not very good at this .... the only one who has gone on about 21 experts is you.



John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 3:54pm:
yeah ...one 'expert' says no, 21 other experts say yes. You of course opt to ignore the 21 in favour of the one because you're a genius. :D :D


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:52pm:
The important part of my statement was that you cherry pick your quotes, while ignoring everything else they say.



I gave complete quotes with the reference. I know you have trouble understanding. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:47pm

lee wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
I gave complete quotes with the reference.



cherry picked sections of quotes, usually taken out of context or whilst ignoring everything else they say.  ::)

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:55pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:47pm:
cherry picked sections of quotes, usually taken out of context or whilst ignoring everything else they say.



Well then seeing as you "know" that you should have no trouble proving I cherry picked anything. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 18th, 2020 at 10:19pm

lee wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:47pm:
cherry picked sections of quotes, usually taken out of context or whilst ignoring everything else they say.



Well then seeing as you "know" that you should have no trouble proving I cherry picked anything. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



get a life ya loser :D :D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 18th, 2020 at 10:33pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 10:19pm:

lee wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:47pm:
cherry picked sections of quotes, usually taken out of context or whilst ignoring everything else they say.



Well then seeing as you "know" that you should have no trouble proving I cherry picked anything. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



get a life ya loser :D :D



poor petal. A know nothing numpty. With the universal cry of the alarmist "you cherry picked the data". ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 18th, 2020 at 11:11pm

lee wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 10:33pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 10:19pm:

lee wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 9:47pm:
cherry picked sections of quotes, usually taken out of context or whilst ignoring everything else they say.



Well then seeing as you "know" that you should have no trouble proving I cherry picked anything. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



get a life ya loser :D :D



poor petal. A know nothing numpty. With the universal cry of the alarmist "you cherry picked the data". ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



why? you'd just shove your head up your arse further than it already is.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Frank on Jan 20th, 2020 at 5:45pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 8:26pm:
The 'experts' spout what their masters want them to.   Surrendering to 'experts' is for subservient idiots.

All totalitarian regimes have been supported and justified  by 'experts'.  And theybsuceeded because of the idiots like benito here, who have all been eager to surrender all their responsibilities to 'experts'.


You are the herd that fascists and communists thrive on, John 'bozo' Smith - mindless, subservient and screaming all about it.


you should seek help sore end ... seeing commo's everywhere, you know they have medication for that, right?



Get one of these, you know you want to:

Saint Greta Thunberg Prayer Candle // Greta Thunberg Gift
AU$20.89




Carbon neutral candles, made in China, posted from climate Trudeaupia.

Also:


Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Frank on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:04pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2020 at 6:39pm:
hey sore end, why change your nick name to Frank .... was sore end a little to close for comfort?
and unlike you dopey, I've never claimed to understand all the science behind it. The problem is when idiots like you mistakenly think they understand the science but actually don't understand sh1t.





Ah... you don't know what to think so you go with the 'authority'.   Not an authority you otherwise accept, just the authority the shouters accept. You go with the shouters.

I have not seen any scientific paper that was stupid enough to say that human CO2 causes climate change. That would be just too idiotic so nobody with any scientific knowledge would propagate.
The most they say is that it is a contributory factor. To what extent it is contributory, nobody knows because nobody knows how the climate actually works.
That last bit of information is the absolute latest scientific information on the climate.
Yes, people model it, people run stats on it (all the climate alarmist hooey IS about statistics and even you know the adage about statistics). But climate is not like chemistry or physics or even biology where experiments can be designed, run and reproduced. Climate science is statistics, not experimental science. It cannot be experimental science since the subject matter is not testable.

As old Karnal from Pakistan likes to remind everyone, correlation is not causation. 

(but I have given you too many big words, Benito, you must have a headache and I probably lost you at 'Ah...' Didn't I?? Of course I did.))




Soren (Søren, actually) is my real (middle) name.  Re-registered on advice from the Dear Leader.


Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:41pm

Frank wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:04pm:
Ah... you don't know what to think so you go with the 'authority'.



yes, as I do when I need medical advise, when i need mechanical advise, when i need electrical advise and so on.

Only an idiot ignores the experts because they think they know better.




Quote:
I have not seen any scientific paper that was stupid enough to say that human CO2 causes climate change.


you're the only one to go on about human Co2 causing climate change. I see no mention of it on the chart in the OP.


See, this is one another of your problems sore end. You can't distinguish the difference between what people are saying, and what the multiple voices in your head are telling you. Seek help.

at this rate you'll need medication for your medication :D :D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Frank on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:52pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:41pm:
you're the only one to go on about human Co2 causing climate change. I see no mention of it on the chart in the OP.


So if it's nuffin' to do wiv human beans -what's the issue then?????   It's not human CO2 - still, DO SOMEFIN'....???  Is that it?

Or what? Don't tell me it's about the mere existence of humans on the planet (I wouldn't be surprised at all if that was the latest 'current truth')




Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2020 at 7:21pm

Frank wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:41pm:
you're the only one to go on about human Co2 causing climate change. I see no mention of it on the chart in the OP.


So if it's nuffin' to do wiv human beans -what's the issue then?????   It's not human CO2 - still, DO SOMEFIN'....???  Is that it?

Or what? Don't tell me it's about the mere existence of humans on the planet (I wouldn't be surprised at all if that was the latest 'current truth')


you really are a moron, you know that? I don't believe your claims about your education. It's impossible that you are as highly educated as you pretend to be.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 20th, 2020 at 7:22pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:41pm:
yes, as I do when I need medical advise, when i need mechanical advise, when i need electrical advise and so on.



And you never, ever ask for a second opinion.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2020 at 7:28pm

lee wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 7:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:41pm:
yes, as I do when I need medical advise, when i need mechanical advise, when i need electrical advise and so on.



And you never, ever ask for a second opinion.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



your problem doofus is that even when the second opinion, 3rd and all the way up to ten thousandth opinion all say the same thing ..you ignore them and opt to believe the 10001st opinion just because it suits your agenda.

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 20th, 2020 at 8:54pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 7:28pm:
your problem doofus is that even when the second opinion, 3rd and all the way up to ten thousandth opinion all say the same thing



How did you find that many doctors? ;D ;D ;D ;D


John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 7:28pm:
you ignore them and opt to believe the 10001st opinion just because it suits your agenda.


If that is true you must have multiple examples with which to regale us. Perhaps one of your 21 imaginary friends can help. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by John Smith on Jan 20th, 2020 at 9:25pm
careful Lee, your heads starting to come out of your arse ... better pop it back in all the way before it slips out completely

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by lee on Jan 20th, 2020 at 9:42pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 9:25pm:
careful Lee, your heads starting to come out of your arse ... better pop it back in all the way before it slips out completely



So that's a big NO then. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: CSIRO release temp chart
Post by Frank on Jan 22nd, 2020 at 6:12pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 7:21pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2020 at 6:41pm:
you're the only one to go on about human Co2 causing climate change. I see no mention of it on the chart in the OP.


So if it's nuffin' to do wiv human beans -what's the issue then?????   It's not human CO2 - still, DO SOMEFIN'....???  Is that it?

Or what? Don't tell me it's about the mere existence of humans on the planet (I wouldn't be surprised at all if that was the latest 'current truth')


you really are a moron, you know that? I don't believe your claims about your education. It's impossible that you are as highly educated as you pretend to be.




You are too bewildered, benito.

If Human CO2 has no relevance to climate change, as per your 'reading' of the OP, what does climate change have to do with humans as causes and influencers and controllers of the climate - which is what all the climate crisis hysterics are on about incessantly.  What the hell ARE you saying or trying to stay in this whole debate?

Suddenly switching to my education is a dead giveaway of your bewildered confusion. Keep to the topic, if you are able to comprehend what it is. (You aren't).


Australian Politics Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.5.2!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2026. All Rights Reserved.