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Title: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:05pm

Donations flooding in from international celebrities.
Governments pledging billions of dollars.

The scale of the loss needs to be taken into context.

Maybe a thousand homes or thereabouts. Maybe 2000.

Cyclone Tracey destroyed 90 % of the homes in Darwin. In excess of 20000

The 1974 flood in brisbane destroyed a similar number.

Berlin in 1945, Tokyo in 1945.
There were probably millions of homes.
Those places were back to being beautiful in no time .
Probably even improved

Fixing this current problem is surely not beyond us
Have we become such pussies that we aren't up for a bit of hard work
Are we all so used to everything having to " go our way" that we believe all this " catastrophic " negative talk.

Turn that frown upside down.
These problems are an opportunity for people to step up, man up and own

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:09pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

The scale of the loss needs to be taken into context.

Tell that to the kids who have lost their fathers.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:10pm

Australians can't cope with Hardship.
It's too easy here, that we have to create our own disasters like the current Wild Fires.
Years of dismissing experts because they didn't have a middle-eastern Religion like Christianity or because they lived like Campers rather than inner-city latte sipping 'civilised' people who 'owned' other people to do work for them.

Everything in this country is designed to keep the PM & Gov-Gen 'safe' and in power.

...it seems even our priorities in this country are pretty dysfunctional.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

The scale of the loss needs to be taken into context.

Tell that to the kids who have lost their fathers.

How many more lost their fathers in 1915

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

The scale of the loss needs to be taken into context.

Tell that to the kids who have lost their fathers.

How many more lost their fathers in 1915

Sometimes your stupidity amazes me.

The scale of loss to those kids is 100% - it can't be any worse.

They haven't lost half a father, or a quarter of a father.

You really are an insufferable prick.

I thought Morriscum was an arsehole, but here you are making fun of 17 people who have died in these fires.

Scum of the earth mate.

They don't get much lower than you.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by cods on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:14pm

lets not compare the past... thats not what people do when they see their opes and dreams burn in front of their eyes....for goodness sakes aqua....

we all know you will chuck a party if your property gets burned down.....but not everyone is that stoic...most have feelings.... >:( >:(

just heard about another scam or rip off...a Go Fund Me was put up and a picture of the father and son who died was used .. $4000 was collected and taken before they realised it was a scam....... how true I am not sure but we all know how they crawl out from under rocks at times like this...

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:15pm

Whitey and especially Whitey Politicians caused these Wild-Fires.
It was a self-inflicted catastrophe.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by cods on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:16pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

The scale of the loss needs to be taken into context.

Tell that to the kids who have lost their fathers.

How many more lost their fathers in 1915

aqua I think you have said enough.....

you cant expect aboriginals to stop living in the past when by the look of this THATS ALL YOU DO. >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by cods on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:17pm

actually I just saw Scomo with his lighter running through the undergrowth dont worry I sent the police a text

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:19pm

This Aboriginal has been working against the current for 20 years trying to teach Whitey how to play with Fire and use as both prevention and advantage.

Whitey prefers to just concentrate on 'aftermaths' and not listen to 'primitive' advice.
Just doesn't add up does it. ::)

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Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gordon on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:19pm

I noticed the ABC is directing all donations to the Red Cross.

I really hope all bushfire donations are being sent 100% to bush fire related relief amd not....

https://www.redcross.org.au/get-help/help-for-migrants-in-transition

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:20pm

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

The scale of the loss needs to be taken into context.

Tell that to the kids who have lost their fathers.

How many more lost their fathers in 1915

aqua I think you have said enough.....

you cant expect aboriginals to stop living in the past when by the look of this THATS ALL YOU DO. >:( >:( >:( >:(

His comments were disgusting.

It's not a contest to see which tragedy has the biggest death toll.

aqua wouldn't have the guts to stand in front of one of those kids who has lost their father in the fires and tell them that more people lost their fathers in 1915, and therefore they should get over it.

Idiot.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by cods on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:34pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:19pm:

I did learn a long time ago the Red Cross takes 20% of all donations... not sure if its still the case but I stopped giving to them when I found that out.....

I am thinking this is going to be the next CRISIS...there is going to be an awful lot of money ....

and only a few involved in dispensing it... ::) ::) ::)

whos bank accounts is it all going into????.....when is there ever a audit of where all the money went???

I admit I dont give to these kind of funds.....years ago so much disappeared or was used for the wrong things or at least not what people thought they were funding...... and it seemed to happen a lot..

so what do we actually know about whos running what????????

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by cods on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:20pm:

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

The scale of the loss needs to be taken into context.

Tell that to the kids who have lost their fathers.

How many more lost their fathers in 1915

aqua I think you have said enough.....

you cant expect aboriginals to stop living in the past when by the look of this THATS ALL YOU DO. >:( >:( >:( >:(

aqua has made it plain he has no empathy..... and basically thats where humanity starts..

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gordon on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:39pm

I donated directly to the surf club as surf clubs in affected areas are acting as distribution facilities.

I also trust them not to send money to the next flood in Bangladesh or to buy korans in Indonesia.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by cods on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:51pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:39pm:

do you get a Where did the Money go print out???????...... ::) ::)

there is going to be so much money involved in this.....

phew!!!!!

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gordon on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:56pm

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:39pm:

do you get a Where did the Money go print out???????...... ::) ::)

there is going to be so much money involved in this.....

phew!!!!!

Handed over cash no receipt. I know the person who took the cash.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 5:01pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:19pm:

The aboriginal population in the pre-colonial era was about 250,000. How the hell did they manage to control multiple millions of hectares of land with their fire techniques? It's all been highly exaggerated. They lit little parcels of land and banged on the head all animals that came flying out. And this was mostly done in the spinifex country. Why would aboriginals set fire to vast tracks of land and risk wiping out their food supply. Somebody is lying somewhere.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gnads on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 5:52pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:15pm:

Whitey and especially Whitey Politicians caused these Wild-Fires.
It was a self-inflicted catastrophe.

FARCOUGH you're not a black brother

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gnads on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 5:55pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:19pm:

He's nearly as white as me

& he hasn't been telling any white landholder anything they hadn't already learnt long before this bloke was born.

He's just a media token to promote the Aboriginal industry.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gordon on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 5:58pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 5:01pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:19pm:

It's such an exaggeration describing Abos as managers of the land.
They set fire to it to achieve the outcome of flushing out game and the regrowth attracting animals. There was no macro masterplan and they certainly didn't have the population to apply that to the entire country.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 5:58pm

Aboriginals used Fire to keep the lands maintained as vast 'Parklands' (this is the word used by early Colonists/Explorers) - that accommodated all needs.

I'm not talking about Abos who intergrated into Politics and Cities to get their African-American agendas and Media promos.

I'm talking about the Abos who stuck to traditional ways and created many habitable regions ...obviously not 'everywhere'. ::)

Inferior Whitey was too lazy to finance a continuation of these methods and now their technological superiority has even been found wanting.
Whitey can only do things Politically & Militarily - anything else is beyond their disability spectrum.

Time to sack ScoMo (turned out worse than Shorten).

Time to pay the professionals to do what they're good at.

My god! What am I saying?
Pay Aboriginals to keep this country from going from the frying pan into the fire.
It will 'never' happen.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gnads on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 5:59pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:19pm:

That's my concern .... and scammers are operating taking advantage of peoples generosity right now.

Remember the missing money from the donations for Cyclone Tracy?

Missing donation money for those in FNQ for cyclones Larry & Yarsi?

It gets syphoned off. >:(

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gnads on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:00pm

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:19pm:

I wouldn't give to the Red Cross either.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:03pm

All charities are just SCAMS these days.
I don't donate to anyone.
Sick of it all.

Seems the Medical Industry has every day listed as a 'Donation' to some cause - almost like an emotional 'tax' scam.

Why donate to an Industry that relies on Government Management and taxpayer funding?

::)

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gnads on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:06pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 5:58pm:

You are indeed a master - bater fantasizer

just like you mate Pascoe

& like him you're a white bloke.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gnads on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:07pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 5:58pm:

You can't even pay them to work around Ayres Rock .... cease with the bs.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:10pm

Don't worry Gnads. ScoMo (or even the opposition leader... who is staying very quiet because he knows that this is beyond Politics) - will save the day! ::)

Remember: the word 'Parkland' was used by Whiteys to describe how 'manicured' the lands were made by the Boongs.

...and yet dismally, the Brits had to rely on American Whaling Ships to provision them. ;D

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:12pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 5:58pm:

Australia has burnt thousands upon thousands of times and will continue to burn. Even in aboriginal times there were massive bushfires. You can see the evidence in tree rings. When lightning struck the bush in aboriginal times those fires would have burnt for months. It's just the highly flammable nature of eucalypts. It's nobody's fault. People have got to be careful plonking houses in the bush without having a large area of cleared land around their houses though. That's the issue.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Ye Grappler on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:32pm

Not over reacting enough - now what was the issue?

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:41pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:32pm:

Not over reacting enough - now what was the issue?

I went through the blue mountains on the bell line of road a week ago. The fires were still smoldering. Most of the houses I saw burnt out had the bush right on their verandas. Some people want to do a 4 hour karma sutra session with their missus, blow a big fat joint and watch a possum sitting in a tree right next to their window. Hippies. I'm not saying that was the case for all the people affected but I'm sure it was the case for some of these mountain greenies. a lot of this comes down to poor property management to me. I know that sounds heartless but if you want to live in the bush you've got to plan for bushfires.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Bias_2012 on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 7:07pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:41pm:

if you want to live in the bush you've got to plan for bushfires.

Very true

At least some cleared land around the property whether it's your own land or someone elses adjoining land

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gnads on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 7:19pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:10pm:

manicured with what? ::)

A spear? a boomerang? a nulla nulla?

What was manicured was Gov MacArthurs homestead where he gave shelter & food to Aboriginals that he taught to tend them..... with whitey tools.

Dream on Dark Emu Droppings.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 7:22pm

Still living in the UK & USA I see Gnads. ::)

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by cods on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 7:29pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 7:07pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:41pm:

if you want to live in the bush you've got to plan for bushfires.

Very true

At least some cleared land around the property whether it's your own land or someone elses adjoining land

thats isnt what they want though is it?? maybe there is a market for plastic fully grown gum trees.....plastic that melts doesnt burn.......of course.....

it isnt rocket science.... its the trees that cause the fires... houses rarely explode...

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by John Smith on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 8:02pm

People Are Over Reacting.

no they're not

Amazon Rainforrest fires 900 000 hectares burnt
California 800 000
NSW alone 4.2 MILLION HECTARES

500 000 ANIMALS DEAD
23 people dead
6 missing
billions of dollars in infrastructure destroyed

there is no over reaction

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Gordon on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 8:07pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:41pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:32pm:

Not over reacting enough - now what was the issue?

I agree in principle, but I think a lot of people have been forced out of the city due to housing affordability and our Govts jamming the suburbs with every 3rd world turd that wants to come here.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by rhino on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 8:13pm

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:20pm:

cods wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

The scale of the loss needs to be taken into context.

Tell that to the kids who have lost their fathers.

How many more lost their fathers in 1915

aqua I think you have said enough.....

you cant expect aboriginals to stop living in the past when by the look of this THATS ALL YOU DO. >:( >:( >:( >:(

aqua has made it plain he has no empathy..... and basically thats where humanity starts..

Sometimes cods you really do offer pearls of wisdom.

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Ye Grappler on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 10:25pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 8:07pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:41pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:32pm:

Not over reacting enough - now what was the issue?

I agree in principle, but I think a lot of people have been forced out of the city due to housing affordability and our Govts jamming the suburbs with every 3rd world turd that wants to come here.

OOOOOOH!! How true.... and remember that many councils have prevented removing trees... at least here I can chop that bloody tree out front if I want - but I don't want to do it myself and don't want to pay someone $2000 to do it.

BTW - there is an Aboriginal bloke here who runs a tree trimming business... he's a good one... employs Aborigines...

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Ye Grappler on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 10:27pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 7:19pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 6:10pm:

Of course! Those Aboriginals felled and stumped all those tree to 'manicure' the lawns all across Australia... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

What a load of bollards ....

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 7^th, 2020 at 6:11am

Attacked by both Gregory and cods.

This provides very good evidence that scooters on the money

So I hear this morning that 200 homes have been lost in Victoria
Wow that is a whopping 1% of the number lost in Cyclone Tracy
So it's 1% of a catastrophe

And Scott Morrison has announced
Wait for it
A new government bureaucracy to deal with the rebuilding project
Funded to the tune of 2 billion dollars

Assuming a similar number of homes a lost in New South Wales
That works out at 5 million dollars per home

I don't know about you but that sounds like an overreaction to me

If you would care to read aqua scoots excellent article on the prosperity of the 2010s
You will note that the final comment is that
Governments and the media try to make things worse
In the minds of the public
To justify a grab for further power and bureaucracy

That certainly seems to me like what is going on at the moment

Cyclone Tracy 20000 homes lost
A bit of coverage from the media
The bushfires maybe one or two percent of that number lost
24/7 coverage with thousands of journalists in the bush non-stop for 6 weeks

Ramp up that negativity folks
Make sure people are feeling anxious scared weak confused
That way they hand over all their power to the authorities

Please please make me safe

No one can ever make you safe son
It's far better that someone makes you strong

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by Ye Grappler on Jan 7^th, 2020 at 6:24am

Comparative Disasters 101 - Professor Aquascoot.....

Scooter - nobody gives a rat's about Tracey - the response was swift - the response here was slow --disastrously slow - Tracey was in a comparatively small area of homes - this is widespread - no comparison.

Now - how much will I put you down for in the drive to assemble $1Bn to fund half a dozen Canadair CL-415s as a fleet in being? Two horse shoes and one rein?

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by aquascoot on Jan 7^th, 2020 at 6:38am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 7^th, 2020 at 6:24am:

No need mate
Scotty has already pledged $5000000 to rebuild each home
Chuck in all the cash from Hollywood
And some of these dudes are going to end up in a home better then pink's :D :D

I suppose old bed wedding Scotty
Got all frightened that everyone didn't like him
Had a little bit of an emotional crisis
And thought if he just built everyone who didn't like him
A 6 bedroom 6 bathroom house with a pool
They might be his friend

He's even more weaksauce than I thought

Title: Re: People Are Over Reacting.
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 7^th, 2020 at 8:13am

Here's a pic of ScoMo taking charge with Military as the answer to all his problems. The guy baulked and hesitated. It's ground he'll never recover from.

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