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Message started by juliar on Dec 31st, 2019 at 6:45pm

Title: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by juliar on Dec 31st, 2019 at 6:45pm
ScoMo and Co. are taking a hard line to rubbish the Greenies' fraudulent Climate Change SCAM.



Climate pressure ‘doomed to fail’, says Angus Taylor
GRAHAM LLOYD 10:30PM DECEMBER 30, 2019


Energy Minister Angus Taylor. Picture: AAP

Energy Minister Angus Taylor has warned that “top-down” pressure from the UN to address climate change will fail and better technologies — not tougher ­government imposts — are needed to meet emissions-reduction targets.

Defending Australia’s record on cutting carbon dioxide emissions, Mr Taylor said the evidence was that most countries would ­reject climate change policies that added substantially to the cost of living, destroyed jobs, reduced incomes and impeded growth.

“There are serious limits to pressuring countries into aggressive top-down targets without ­offering clear pathways to ­deliver,” Mr Taylor, the minister responsible for emissions reductions writes in The Australian.

“Many countries understandably see that as negative globalism, and a gross infringement on their national sovereignty.’’

Mr Taylor, writing in the wake of stalled UN climate negoti­ations in Madrid in December, said the focus should be on finding productive technologies and practices that delivered emission abatement while maintaining or strengthening economic growth.

Official notice from the US that it would leave the Paris Agreement in November has dogged recent climate talks.

Australia, Brazil and Saudi Arabia were singled out for blocking progress in Madrid.

Australia was criticised by ­climate groups for wanting to count extra credits from the Kyoto round two process towards its Paris Agreement goals.

Mr Taylor has defended the policy, saying there was less carbon dioxide in the atmosphere because of the work of Australian households, farmers and businesses.

“Over-delivery (on Kyoto 2) should be recognised by the world in assessing and setting future ­obligations,’’ he said.

Criticism at the Madrid meeting was not confined to the US, Australia and Brazil. “Other major economies like China, Japan and India seemed content to stay complicit on the sidelines,” the World Resources Institute said.

As a result, the UN climate agenda increasingly was at risk of becoming a EU-led project.

Mr Taylor said Australia’s performance was not a major part of talks in Madrid. Domestic emissions cuts compared favourably with other ­nations, and Australia was contributing to international savings through the export of cleaner fuels such as liquefied natural gas, he said.

Mr Taylor said Australia was responsible for only 1.3 per cent of global emissions and could not have a meaningful impact without co-operation of the largest emitters such as China and the US.

He said Australia had done better than similar countries such as Canada and New Zealand.

Since 2005, Australia’s emissions had fallen 12.9 per cent compared with 2 per cent in Canada and a rise of 4 per cent in New Zealand.

In that time, China’s emissions had risen 67 per cent and India 77 per cent.

Both countries have insisted on the delivery of a promised $100bn a year in climate funding from the developed world before deciding on any further action.

In addition, as part of nego­tiations for new rules to govern international carbon-trading markets, developing nations want a percentage of the value of global trade to be collected and put aside for climate programs and mitigation.

Mr Taylor said the main focus of the Madrid meeting had been on how to make international carbon markets work.

This was not directly relevant to Australia because it did not trade international permits.

The meeting closed without progress on the key agenda items. Countries failed to agree on the final elements of the Paris rulebook or guidelines to bring the Paris Agreement into operation.

Little progress was made on support and finance for developing countries.

Ireland was the only country to increase its pledge to the Green Climate Fund to which Australia has said it will make no further contributions.

No agreement could be reached on long-term climate ­finance that developing nations expect will raise more than $100bn a year from next year. And after a marathon session in Madrid, a decision on the rules for international carbon markets was postponed until 2020.

Australia has been supportive of getting an outcome on a global carbon market, despite currently not having any exposure to the scheme.

Brazil, India, Russia and China have signalled they are not interested in a global scheme ­unless their historical credits under the Clean Development Mechanism were recognised.

This has led to accusations of double counting.

Under the Paris Agreement, countries have to revisit their ­climate plans by 2020, but most are not compelled to enhance them.

At the insistence of the US, Brazil and China, the final communique in Madrid simply ­recalled the Paris Agreement commitment that they “communicate or update” their ­climate plans by 2020.

Countries were urged to consider the gap between existing commitments and what was needed to limit warming “well below 2C”, with a view to “reflecting their highest possible ­ambition’’.

Most countries are under no obligation to revisit their ­ambition to cut greenhouse gas emissions levels until 2025.

Paywall so continue overleaf

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by juliar on Dec 31st, 2019 at 6:45pm
Paywall so continue...

Most countries are under no obligation to revisit their ­ambition to cut greenhouse gas emissions levels until 2025.

Mr Taylor said Australia was already ahead of its 2030 targets without taking account of any technology improvement or ­action by state governments.

He said Australia would increase its emissions-reductions targets only if it was sure the new targets could be met.

He said there was enormous potential in established and emerging technologies such as hydrogen, carbon capture and storage, biofuels, lithium production and waste to energy.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/climate-pressure-doomed-to-fail-says-angus-taylor/news-story/f2441a20c70b944dd1d54ae15f304791


And what does the man in the street think ?

Alison 23 MINUTES AGO
Climate change is/has replaced Christianity. The new Gospel is "The Science" and we must repent our wicked ways by denouncing Capitalism. The more you study the climate change cult the more similarities with old religion become apparent. Lucky I am an atheist and can continue to enjoy the fruits of Capitalism.

Alex 1 HOUR AGO
When will our politicians have the honesty to admit that CO2 is essentially a plant food. The more CO2 in the air the greener our planet becomes. This means crops grow better, forrests grow better, more food is produced for our ever increasing world population.  It is so so wrong that CO2 is put in the dangerous and unwanted basket. Its about time this minister and the government as a whole do a complete 180 on this and start telling the truth in regards to the overall benifits of an increasing level of CO2. There are a lot more urgent discussion to be had in making this world a better place, but CO2 aint one of them. Alex WA

Terry D 1 HOUR AGO
Energy Minister Angus Taylor has warned that […] better technologies […] are needed to meet emissions-reduction targets.
And I have not seen any proof/evidence that realising the so-called emissions-reduction targets will have any tangible benefits.

Dean 2 HOURS AGO
There's something that most overlook here . Our biggest and never to be solved problem is the electricity market.  Once capital is paid for solar and wind power are free . What's wrong with that .
Understandably no 'for profit company' will keep a coal fired station sitting around on standby nor give away free power.
This whole thing is profit driven because we are only customers ,mainly, to private companies legally bound to maximise profit .
When you stand back and look at it , it's laughable that such an essential service is out of our control.
So whatever new wiz bang technology comes along , not just talked about , it will be poison to the status quo.

Bean 1 HOUR AGO
If your claim of free power from renewables  is valid then there is no need to provide any subsidies!

Mikhail 2 HOURS AGO
A good start. Perhaps sometime soon we will recognize that climate change is perpetual and unrelated to human activities. Not yet, though

Joan 4 HOURS AGO
Only 1.3% of the emissions, currently 100% of the bushfire deaths.

Ruth 3 HOURS AGO
A baseless accusation- climate change does not start fires and does not provide the fuel. 85% of bush fires are started by humans both deliberate and accidental. These fires are not unprecedented please refer to historical fire disasters. The term ‘catastrophic’ is a recently introduced category and not relevant when comparing with previous disasters. Even if we concede that the fires are a result of climate change what policies can an Australian Federal government introduce to change the climate - zero. Immediate and practical solutions include harsher penalties for arsonists and a radical reduction in fuel load. Those conflating climate change and the bush fires should hang their heads in shame - political opportunist!!!

Martin or the better half 2 HOURS AGO
No Joan , the IPCC , the so called scientists everyone refers to says in their AR5 report that climate change is not convincingly linked to drought . The ENSO  is, as are the solar sun spot activity/ cycles.
This  drought was predicted on solar cycles back in 2010 by a long range Oz weather forecaster . He says it will stretch to 2028
We will always have drought, we had it long before the Co2 furphy came along .

Lance 4 HOURS AGO
the UN climate agenda increasingly was at risk of becoming a EU-led project
Sounds good to me. Let's leave it all the to EU, and we and the rest of the world can just get on with life.

Ann 4 HOURS AGO
He said there was enormous potential in established and emerging technologies such as hydrogen.  Hydrogen cars are already operating in many countries very satisfactorily. They can be quickly refueled and travel long distances. The emissions from these cars is water. Australia has the potential to export hydrogen to all countries as ammonia and convert the ammonia very safely to hydrogen using the CSIRO membrane that they have developed. Australia can contribute to reducing emissions in all those countries. 

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by PZ547 on Dec 31st, 2019 at 6:52pm

Quote:
Climate change SCAM will fail



Relying on you to be right, Juliar

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by juliar on Dec 31st, 2019 at 6:58pm
PeeZed seems to have lost his train of thought Toot Toot!!!

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by PZ547 on Dec 31st, 2019 at 7:02pm

juliar wrote on Dec 31st, 2019 at 6:58pm:
PeeZed seems to have lost his train of thought Toot Toot!!!



what makes you say that?

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by juliar on Jan 1st, 2020 at 7:56am
You seem to be off the track.

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by Sir lastnail on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 3:03pm
You're the only one who is a SCAM socko ! Anyone who is at the coal face of the fires would not agree with you and that dickhead pretending to run the country wouldn't know if a black dog was up him :D LOL


Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by juliar on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 9:14am
The utterly wacky loony Greeny rushes in to show off her legendary lack of education. How could anyone be so dumb as this lulu ? But then she has the mind of a backward schoolgirl. Wonder what she will glue herself to next ?

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by Ayn Marx on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 9:17am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 3:03pm:
. . . . . . .that dickhead pretending to run the country wouldn't know if a black dog was up him :D LOL

Probably enjoy it then blame Satan.

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by Ayn Marx on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 9:19am

juliar wrote on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 9:14am:
The utterly wacky loony Greeny rushes in to show off her legendary lack of education. How could anyone be so dumb as this lulu ? But then she has the mind of a backward schoolgirl. Wonder what she will glue herself to next ?
AH, the pervasive power of the ad hominem argument.

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by juliar on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 9:32am
The wacky looney Ave Maria sounds like she is a sister of the other wacky loony Greeny. Where do these uneducated ferals come from ? Wonder if they glue themselves together ?

Now that the disgusting Greenies are grovelling in the dust of their shame after they caused the bush fires ScoMo seizes the opportunity to kick the loathsome Greenies while they are down by announcing radical new laws allowing the clearing of undergrowth.

Anal has disgusted the voters and shamed his pitiful self.

It’s so convenient for Albo, his Labor cronies the Greens & the ferals that vote for these parties to blame Scott Morrison for the bush fires.

It wouldn’t have mattered if Morrison was not on holidays, these fires would still have started because NO ONE can stop arsonists or lightning from starting these fires.

Morrison is being used as a scapegoat by climate change zealots & the likes of Albo who is taking much delight in making the situation a “political” one rather than what happens “naturally” in Australia during dry seasons & has been made far worse by “green” councils & State Govt’s that have not reduced the fuel load.

Building homes amongst the gum trees without any fire protection strategies in place is asking for trouble. It’s about time that State Govt’s, local councils & citizens started to manage the parks, land & surrounds in a responsible manner.





Bushfires: Scott Morrison flags land clearing shake-up
ROSIE LEWIS 1:30AM JANUARY 3, 2020


Josh Collings returns to his destroyed home in Cudgewa, Victoria. Picture: Tony Gough


Scott and Jenny Morrison with Cobargo RFS captain Mark Ayliffe at the burnt-out NSW town on Thursday. Picture: Sean Davey.


Scott Morrison has flagged an overhaul of hazard reduction operati­ons in national parks and laws dictating where land can be cleared and houses built, while acknowled­ging climate change and the drought had extended Australia’s disastrous fire season.

Addressing a press conference for the first time since fires in NSW and Victoria ravaged the coast this week, the Prime Minister again held the line on his government’s climate change policies but said the national security committee of cabinet would meet on Monday to consider a short- and longer-term response.

Asked if the fires were the new normal, Mr Morrison said the season­ had been “quite extraordinary” because of the drought that preceded it but he hoped that would break this year. “That will hopefully ensure we’ve got a differen­t situation as we confront next year’s fire season,” he said.

“That equally then has a need to address issues around hazard reduction in national parks, dealing with land clearing laws, zoning laws and planning laws around people’s properties and where they can be built in countries like Australia, up and down our coast …

“There have been many restrictions put around those issues that now I think would have to be reviewed on the basis of the impact of the broader climatic effects we are seeing in this country.”

The PM did not rule out leasing more aerial firefighting assets to assist the existing fleet of 140 aircraft and said he understood the fear, frustration and anxiety people­ were experiencing as they tried to leave areas forecast to experience worsening conditions on Saturday. He urged those affected to be patient and put their confid­ence in the state agencies leading the response on the ground.

“I’ve always acknowledged the link … between the broader issues of global climate change and what that means for the world’s weather and the dryness of conditions in many places,” Mr Morrison said.

2019-20 bushfire season at a glance


Picture: Evan Collis 2019-20 bushfire season at a glance As at Thursday, Dec 2, 1.20pm (AEDT).Source: AAP

“My focus right now (is) to deal with the anxiety in the community … getting support and supplies and getting people to safety and ensuring that our firefighters have every support they need, and I said I am in constant contact with the premiers in terms of what, if any, other additional assistance they need to get the job done on the ground.”

Anthony Albanese said the bushfires were a “national emergency” and called for a market-based mechanism to help combat clim­ate change.

Questioned over Mr Morrison’s handling of the crisis, the Opposition­ Leader told ABC TV: “Other people will make their own judgments.

“But I do think there’s been a view put by him that this is almost a business-as-usual approach. He has said that there is no need to change policy on climate … The tragedy is it’s precisely the sort of predictions … made by scientists.”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/bushfires-scott-morrison-flags-land-clearing-shakeup/news-story/8781bc3a949f9cf0acdad13d932f408c

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by Sir lastnail on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 9:39am
Now the truth minus the blue shirt PR bullshit !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSSjxsmlkVM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh7pf88_4y4


Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by juliar on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 10:01am
Beyond stupid is the only explanation for the loony Greeny with the mind of a backward schoolgirl who can't resist showing off what she is.  Why would she humiliate herself like this ? What will she glue herself to next ?

She does seemed thrilled to see so many Australians suffering - but then she is a warped Greeny and that is what they are like.

You would think she would be too ashamed to admit she is a Greeny!!!!

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by juliar on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 10:22am
The problem isn't the Commonwealth, as it has no power over bushland.

State governments are responsible for this and most of them are Labor.

Scott Morrison's approach will be that of a national co-ordinator in a similar way John Howard was with gun laws.

The level of government that is most at fault here is local councils.

They have been refusing permits to clear land and burn off fuel stockpiles.

What we are seeing now is simply the end result of bad administration in the name of Green-Left dogma. The states will have to show more leadership.

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by Sir lastnail on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 10:36am
Don't you ever get tired of eating your own vomit socko ??


Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by juliar on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 2:26pm
Beyond stupid is the only explanation for the loony Greeny with the mind of a backward schoolgirl who can't resist showing off what she is.  Why would she humiliate herself like this ? What will she glue herself to next ?

She does seemed thrilled to see so many Australians suffering - but then she is a warped Greeny and that is what they are like.

You would think she would be too ashamed to admit she is a Greeny!!!!

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by juliar on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 2:41pm
ScoMo to stop Climate Warriors futile disruptive behavior.


Australian PM Scott Morrison to curb ‘selfish’ climate action
Bernard Lagan, Sydney November 2 2019, 12:00am,


Extinction Rebellion protesters in Sydney get across their message about the consequences of climate change. Peter Dutton said that they did not believe in democracy

The prime minister of Australia, the world’s biggest coal exporter, has vowed to punish climate protesters after days of clashes outside a mining conference.

Scott Morrison accused environmental activists of “economic sabotage” and warned that Canberra was drawing up laws to limit damage to businesses.

“A new breed of radical activism is on the march,” he said. “Apocalyptic in tone — brooks no compromise — all or nothing. Alternative views — not permitted.” In 2017 Mr Morrison brandished a lump of coal in parliament, telling MPs not to be “afraid” of it.

Peter Dutton, the home affairs minister, said that individual protesters should be made to pay the costs of policing their rallies.

He added that many climate protesters “don’t believe in democracy”. Demonstrators in Melbourne harassed delegates at the conference, pushing and spitting at them.

Extinction Rebellion members had already blocked streets and bridges across Australia to demand action.

Mr Morrison told the conference: “We are working to identify serious mechanisms that can successfully outlaw these indulgent and selfish practices that threaten the livelihoods of fellow Australians. The right to protest does not mean there is an unlimited licence to disrupt people’s lives and disrespect your fellow Australians. There is also a related and co-ordinated campaign to disrupt the commercial operations of resource companies. There is no place for economic sabotage dressed up as activism.”


Scott Morrison was accused of attempting to undermine democracy.

Mr Morrison said that his conservative government was seeking ways to legislate against “secondary boycotts” — where companies and banks are pressed to stop dealings with the mining industry.

“There’s of course a right to protest in this country,” he said. “But I think we’re really starting to push the envelope when we’ve got people getting spat at because they’re wearing a business shirt.”

Kelly O’Shanassy, of the Australian Conservation Foundation, said that the climate protesters were voicing the concerns of millions of Australians. She said: “To talk about criminalising legitimate protest is more than a threat to advocacy — it is a threat to Australian democracy.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ill-punish-climate-activists-australian-pm-tells-miners-22wlw7bnf

Title: Re: Climate Change SCAM will fail
Post by Sir lastnail on Jan 3rd, 2020 at 9:03pm

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