It is false for the BOM and their activist friends to say the current heat wave is a record or unprecedented...


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And you thought it was hot now? How a 24-DAY heatwave on Australia's east coast in January 1896 saw temperatures climb to 49 degrees and killed 437 people The extreme weather event was described as feeling 'like a furnace' and recorded much higher temperatures than the east coast is set to swelter through this week. It was a hot start to 1896 and by January 14, newspapers were reporting people were dying from a range of complications brought on by the extreme temperatures. By the third week of the year, 12 infants had died from heat-related illnesses in Goulburn, NSW, alone, a report on JoNova about the heatwave revealed. People were fleeing the cities on trains to seek refuge in the mountainous regions of the country, and one child escaping the heat 'died at the moment the train arrived'. Hospitals were at breaking point, and the death toll was rising.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4221366/amp/Heatwave-January-1896-hit-49-degrees-killed-437-people.html?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR2YeRavC2zAb3Q1UULy1g0hoZuSYmeD6NIoos-llcQr9dHAcGg4T-et8wo

Australia will always be a sunburnt country.

The difference between the 1896 one and the current heat wave is that the 1896 one wasn't uniformly hot. It was cooler in SA, VIC and TAS during that heatwave, not nationwide like the current one. That's why even though the 1896 wave was probably hotter in the mid east coast, nationally it was cooler.

2018. , the bureau of meteorology forecast a scorching 49C  in the Pilbara WA – only 2 degrees below the highest temperature ever recorded in Australia, which is 50.7C at South Australia’s Oodnadatta airport in 1960. This reverses the global warming of 2 degrees and radiators are the gift for the season.

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

The difference between the 1896 one and the current heat wave is that the 1896 one wasn't uniformly hot. It was cooler in SA, VIC and TAS during that heatwave, not nationwide like the current one. That's why even though the 1896 wave was probably hotter in the mid east coast, nationally it was cooler.

Perhaps you have the data. BoM doesn't have it

Adelaide - "THE HEAT WAVE.
TERRIBLE WEATHER IN
TOWN AND COUNTRY.
SHADE TEMPERATURE IN
ADELAIDE 111°.
OTHER HIGH RECORDS.
THE DEATH ROLL.
STILL INCREASING."

January 1896
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/53680112/4095285

Victoria - "THE HEAT WAVE.
Effects in Victoria.
[BY TELEGRAPH.]
MELBOURNE, Friday." Jan 1896

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44168314?zoomLevel-6

And Feb 1896

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/79763474?zoomLevel=6

It looks like Tasmania may have been spared. ;)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 11:13am:

It is false for the BOM and their activist friends to say the current heat wave is a record or unprecedented... Quote: And you thought it was hot now? How a 24-DAY heatwave on Australia's east coast in January 1896 saw temperatures climb to 49 degrees and killed 437 people The extreme weather event was described as feeling 'like a furnace' and recorded much higher temperatures than the east coast is set to swelter through this week. It was a hot start to 1896 and by January 14, newspapers were reporting people were dying from a range of complications brought on by the extreme temperatures. By the third week of the year, 12 infants had died from heat-related illnesses in Goulburn, NSW, alone, a report on JoNova about the heatwave revealed. People were fleeing the cities on trains to seek refuge in the mountainous regions of the country, and one child escaping the heat 'died at the moment the train arrived'. Hospitals were at breaking point, and the death toll was rising. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4221366/amp/Heatwave-January-1896-hit-49-degrees-killed-437-people.html?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR2YeRavC2zAb3Q1UULy1g0hoZuSYmeD6NIoos-llcQr9dHAcGg4T-et8wo

how did that inconvenient information escape the library purges and book burnings

shut it down!

My Country - Poem by Dorothea Mackeller

The love of field and coppice
Of green and shaded lanes,
Of ordered woods and gardens
Is running in your veins.
Strong love of grey-blue distance,
Brown streams and soft, dim skies
I know, but cannot share it,
My love is otherwise.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror
The wide brown land for me!

The stark white ring-barked forests,
All tragic to the moon,
The sapphire-misted mountains,
The hot gold hush of noon,
Green tangle of the brushes
Where lithe lianas coil,
And orchids deck the tree-tops,
And ferns the warm dark soil.

Core of my heart, my country!
Her pitiless blue sky,
When, sick at heart, around us
We see the cattle die
But then the grey clouds gather,
And we can bless again
The drumming of an army,
The steady soaking rain.

Core of my heart, my country!
Land of the rainbow gold,
For flood and fire and famine
She pays us back threefold.
Over the thirsty paddocks,
Watch, after many days,
The filmy veil of greenness
That thickens as we gaze ...

An opal-hearted country,
A wilful, lavish land
All you who have not loved her,
You will not understand
though Earth holds many splendours,
Wherever I may die,
I know to what brown country
My homing thoughts will fly.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/slippery-when-wet-tim-flannerys-climate-warnings-questioned-after-recent-flooding/news-story/032676cb0c4bd1ba0e1e99bda904bca2?sv=b88b53b3a64b900159375cfe7ddb486b

lee wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 1:46pm:

Adelaide - "THE HEAT WAVE. TERRIBLE WEATHER IN TOWN AND COUNTRY. SHADE TEMPERATURE IN ADELAIDE 111°.

=
43.888888889 F.  hot for pommies and penguins.

chimera wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 3:36pm:

= 43.888888889 F.  hot for pommies and penguins.

That was before climate change.

It is now -

"Three or more days of high maximum and minimum temperatures that are unusual for that location. "

http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/heatwave/about.shtml

So a heatwave in Sydney is not the same as a heatwave in Marble Bar. ;)

More info -http://media.bom.gov.au/social/blog/891/how-will-i-know-if-a-heatwave-is-coming/

umm..
umm..
have you switched sides

chimera wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 3:59pm:

umm.. umm.. have you switched sides

???

What part of heatwave 1896 didn't you understand?

or perhaps it is the new definition of heatwave that has you bamboozled. ;)

lee wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 5:04pm:

What part of heatwave 1896 didn't you understand?

=  43.888888889 C.

chimera wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 3:59pm:

umm.. umm.. have you switched sides

https://media2.giphy.com/media/RMwXMFA4nQJHi/giphy.gif

lee wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2019 at 3:36pm: = 43.888888889 F.  hot for pommies and penguins. That was before climate change. It is now - "Three or more days of high maximum and minimum temperatures that are unusual for that location. " http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/heatwave/about.shtml So a heatwave in Sydney is not the same as a heatwave in Marble Bar. ;) More info -http://media.bom.gov.au/social/blog/891/how-will-i-know-if-a-heatwave-is-coming/

Hey, Lee old mate, are you quoting the same people you claimed have been fudging the figures?

https://thefinanser.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/wtf-serious-300x200.png

random wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 6:51pm:

Hey, Lee old mate, are you quoting the same people you claimed have been fudging the figures?

You mean I should lie and pretend they haven't said that? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It doesn't have anything to do with their ACORN-2 "data". ;)

lee wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

random wrote on Dec 19th, 2019 at 6:51pm: Hey, Lee old mate, are you quoting the same people you claimed have been fudging the figures? You mean I should lie and pretend they haven't said that? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D It doesn't have anything to do with their ACORN-2 "data". ;)

Oh I get it, you are faarkin good.

If you say "ACORN-2 "data" then it makes you sound like you know what you are talking about, when you don't.  Brilliant!

But for others who just accept the science that the BOM and CSIRO publishes, they might be phased, you know casuse they don't know what ACORN-2 "data" is.

That sows seeds of doubt into their heads and they might vote differently next time!

See I get it mate, I can do this, put me in contact with 'your people'  :exclamation

random wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

But for others who just accept the science that the BOM and CSIRO publishes, they might be phased, you know casuse they don't know what ACORN-2 "data" is.

Poor petal. ACORN-2 is the new update from ACORN-1 adjustments.

In it they adjusted something like 196 209 records for statistical reasons. Exactly how statistics can tell whether records are categorically wrong and can be calculated is not disclosed. You can't make adjustments on old site moves because the microclimate will differ. That may not apply to modern moves because they may have operated two sites siultaneously and can be confident of any adjustments. But all of those should have occurred under the ACORN-1 adjustments.

"Reason for adjustment Maximum temperature Minimum temperature
Statistical                             209                                   244
Site moves (all)                    176                                   170
Screen change or condition   79                                     77
Site condition (without move)   9                                       5
Observation time change         2                                     24
Total                                     450                                    491
Table 7 ACORN-SAT version 2 adjustments by cause. Totals do not add as some adjustments have multiple causes. "

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/acorn-sat/documents/BRR-032.pdf

BTW - Screen changes Stephenson Screens have been made smaller. It has been shown that smaller screens add about 0.6C to the temperatures daily.

Edit: Once data is adjusted it is no longer data, which is why I called it "data". ;)

Tough decision to make ...

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random wrote on Dec 20^th, 2019 at 7:00am:

Tough decision to make ...

yeah Ii know. Tough to tell whether BoM is telling the truth.

But it is from their website. Perhaps they are not like Myers and don't stand behind everything they sell. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

random wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 6:51pm:

lee wrote on Dec 19th, 2019 at 3:50pm: chimera wrote on Dec 19th, 2019 at 3:36pm: = 43.888888889 F.  hot for pommies and penguins. That was before climate change. It is now - "Three or more days of high maximum and minimum temperatures that are unusual for that location. " http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/heatwave/about.shtml So a heatwave in Sydney is not the same as a heatwave in Marble Bar. ;) More info -http://media.bom.gov.au/social/blog/891/how-will-i-know-if-a-heatwave-is-coming/ Hey, Lee old mate, are you quoting the same people you claimed have been fudging the figures? https://thefinanser.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/wtf-serious-300x200.png

You should know by now that's all Lee can do! Fudge, cherry pick and dissemble. Problem is he really wants to use science and historic records to prove his case, but the majority of them demonstrate he is talking poop. As stated, I feel sorry for the retard..

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 20^th, 2019 at 3:19pm:

You should know by now that's all Lee can do! Fudge, cherry pick and dissemble.

So tell me how using BoM's official guide to ACORN-2 is fudging, cherry picking or dissembling? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Pho Huc wrote on Dec 20^th, 2019 at 3:19pm:

Problem is he really wants to use science and historic records to prove his case, but the majority of them demonstrate he is talking poop.

Perhaps you can show the ones where I talk Sh!t. And give us all a breakdown of why? ;D ;D ;D ;D

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 11:13am:

It is false for the BOM and their activist friends to say the current heat wave is a record or unprecedented... Quote: And you thought it was hot now? How a 24-DAY heatwave on Australia's east coast in January 1896 saw temperatures climb to 49 degrees and killed 437 people The extreme weather event was described as feeling 'like a furnace' and recorded much higher temperatures than the east coast is set to swelter through this week. It was a hot start to 1896 and by January 14, newspapers were reporting people were dying from a range of complications brought on by the extreme temperatures. By the third week of the year, 12 infants had died from heat-related illnesses in Goulburn, NSW, alone, a report on JoNova about the heatwave revealed. People were fleeing the cities on trains to seek refuge in the mountainous regions of the country, and one child escaping the heat 'died at the moment the train arrived'. Hospitals were at breaking point, and the death toll was rising.

No Mechanic as usual, you, the daily mail and Jo Nova are wrong.

Methods of recording temperature were not standardised until the early 1900s. A Stevenson screen was not installed in Bourke until August 1908

The Bureau of Meteorology noted in a 2017 report the 1896 data "cannot be easily compared with modern recordings".

"Detailed study has shown that extreme temperatures recorded at Bourke during the 1896 heatwave were likely suspect due to non-standard exposure, and likely around two degrees warmer than temperatures recorded with standard instrumentation."

And the death toll of 437 people?

There was no airconditioning, poorer medical knowledge about dehydration, and heat stroke, no OHS laws and poorer forecasting.

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:06am:

Methods of recording temperature were not standardised until the early 1900s. A Stevenson screen was not installed in Bourke until August 1908

What type of screen did they have before that. Studies showed similar screens had a difference of about 0.2C. The new smaller Stevenson Screens add about 0.6C. ;)


The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:06am:

The Bureau of Meteorology noted in a 2017 report the 1896 data "cannot be easily compared with modern recordings".

Of course not they used mercury thermometers, now they use digital. The new digital ones are supposed to be average over 5 minutes(well it what is used in the States) to try to emulate the mercury ones. Here they are apparently "purpose built" with a lag to emulate mercury ones. However there are no design specs available or even calibration data to see if they meet design specs.


The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:06am:

There was no airconditioning, poorer medical knowledge about dehydration, and heat stroke, no OHS laws and poorer forecasting

No but they knew the principals of a Coolgardie Safe. And people did know to drink water. Just how evolved did you think they were? ;)

It is also why people built houses with high ceilings.

lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 11:35am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 10:12am: That's pretty rich coming from lee who has relentlessly trolled my posts over the past few years. Relentlessly? All your posts? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks you inadvertently proving my point once again  ;D ;D ;D
I was replying to the Mechanic, but you had to respond instead. You just can't help yourself (or you are paid by the word)  ;)


lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 10:06am: There was no airconditioning, poorer medical knowledge about dehydration, and heat stroke, no OHS laws and poorer forecasting No but they knew the principals of a Coolgardie Safe. And people did know to drink water. Just how evolved did you think they were? ;)

You do realize that in 1896 we were just a collection of British colonies.
The British are notorious for not drinking water. They also still dressed the same for their cold British climate.

435 people died in an 1896 heatwave — but scientists say the extreme heat events of today are still hotter

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-21/1896-heatwave-killed-435-climate-scientists-cant-compare-today/11809998

lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 10:06am: Methods of recording temperature were not standardised until the early 1900s. A Stevenson screen was not installed in Bourke until August 1908 What type of screen did they have before that. Studies showed similar screens had a difference of about 0.2C. The new smaller Stevenson Screens add about 0.6C. ;) The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 10:06am: The Bureau of Meteorology noted in a 2017 report the 1896 data "cannot be easily compared with modern recordings". Of course not they used mercury thermometers, now they use digital. The new digital ones are supposed to be average over 5 minutes(well it what is used in the States) to try to emulate the mercury ones. Here they are apparently "purpose built" with a lag to emulate mercury ones. However there are no design specs available or even calibration data to see if they meet design specs. The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 10:06am: There was no airconditioning, poorer medical knowledge about dehydration, and heat stroke, no OHS laws and poorer forecasting No but they knew the principals of a Coolgardie Safe. And people did know to drink water. Just how evolved did you think they were? ;) It is also why people built houses with high ceilings.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/WHO.jpg

poor random chimera still doesn't know whether to believe BoM's adjustment theory for ACORN-2. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 12:15pm:

poor random chimera still doesn't know whether to believe BoM's adjustment theory for ACORN-2. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I do know that.

I also know what you are doing.  You have a shill job to hose down any postings cotrary to the riding instructions you have.  You don't have to worry about reputation, just as long as any postings made about climate change or left wing issues are countered with fear and doubt or made fun of.

But I'm still keen to get in on the gig mate.

So I'm ready to sell out just like you.  Sorry for calling you names and shite, a jobs a job mate and I'm ready to go.

PM me please.

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 12:01pm:

Thanks you inadvertently proving my point once again  Grin Grin Grin I was replying to the Mechanic, but you had to respond instead.

As I said on the other thread I will continue to comment on your posts as I see fit. ;)


The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 12:01pm:

You do realize that in 1896 we were just a collection of British colonies.

Yes and a lot of the country actually had Stevenson Screens, ;)


The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 12:01pm:

The British are notorious for not drinking water.

By the late 19th century we weren't all British. And even then British explorers had survived in hot climates in many places. They even were topees. ;)

lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 12:29pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 12:01pm: Thanks you inadvertently proving my point once again  Grin Grin Grin I was replying to the Mechanic, but you had to respond instead. As I said on the other thread I will continue to comment on your posts as I see fit. ;) The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 12:01pm: You do realize that in 1896 we were just a collection of British colonies. Yes and a lot of the country actually had Stevenson Screens, ;) The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 12:01pm: The British are notorious for not drinking water. By the late 19th century we weren't all British. And even then British explorers had survived in hot climates in many places. They even were topees. ;)

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/WHO.jpg

random wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 12:27pm:

I do know that.

You know what petal?

That you can't adjust temperatures in the distant past by statistical means?

So perhaps as you claim to be really sciencey you can explain to poor me how changing long past data statistically works. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

random wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 12:09pm:

435 people died in an 1896 heatwave — but scientists say the extreme heat events of today are still hotter

Population of Australia in 1896 was about 3,540,000.
435 death represent ..0097 of 1% of the population.
Today's population is about 22,110,000.

.0097% of 22,110,000 = 2144 people.

Just to put things in perspective. ;)

Did this happen in 1896?

Spot

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 1:36pm:

Did this happen in 1896?

from the satellite back then a definitive maybe. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 1:48pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 1:36pm: Did this happen in 1896? from the satellite back then a definitive maybe. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Back then with more bush and less technology they wouldn't be able to control them anywhere near now so Sydney would have burned and Brisbane etc and we would know about it

Spot

So tell me about the overseas fires.

lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 1:00pm:

random wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 12:09pm: 435 people died in an 1896 heatwave — but scientists say the extreme heat events of today are still hotter Population of Australia in 1896 was about 3,540,000. 435 death represent ..0097 of 1% of the population. Today's population is about 22,110,000. .0097% of 22,110,000 = 2144 people. Just to put things in perspective. ;)

So you are good with numbers?  Yeah?

https://media3.giphy.com/media/e2QYPpUe8WmpG/source.gif

https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/wmdata.nsf/activeotherresource/ABS_Logo_333/$File/ABS_Logo_333.svg

    On 21 December 2019 at 06:58:32 PM (Canberra time), the resident population of Australia is projected to be:

    25,544,585


This projection is based on the estimated resident population at 30 June 2019 and assumes growth since then of:

    one birth every 1 minute and 44 seconds,
    one death every 3 minutes and 17 seconds,
    one person arriving to live in Australia every 59 seconds,
    one Australian resident leaving Australia to live overseas every 1 minute and 46 seconds, leading to
    an overall total population increase of one person every 1 minute and 23 seconds.


These assumptions are consistent with figures released in Australian Demographic Statistics, March Quarter 2019 (cat. no. 3101.0).

lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 11:47am:

[quote author=Oh_Yeah link=1576717984/21#21 date=1576886791]The Bureau of Meteorology noted in a 2017 report the 1896 data "cannot be easily compared with modern recordings".

Of course not they used mercury thermometers, now they use digital. /quote]


it's not just about mercury v's digital.. last week the digital thermometer in my car said 45 ... BoM said 39. Both were digital readouts.

try again ::)

Bobby. wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 11:35am:

Australia will always be a sunburnt country.

Only for the idiots who 'get burnt'.
Yo'all complain about the Boongs being dried up and burnt out into 'primitive' existence.
Maybe yo'all should learn by it then.
That's why I dive. It's much better 'down there' and I'm not stealing someone else's land.

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 6:16pm:

it's not just about mercury v's digital.. last week the digital thermometer in my car said 45 ... BoM said 39. Both were digital readouts.

You car was hotter than the outside shade temperature? Colour me surprised. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 6:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2019 at 6:16pm: it's not just about mercury v's digital.. last week the digital thermometer in my car said 45 ... BoM said 39. Both were digital readouts. You car was hotter than the outside shade temperature? Colour me surprised. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

;D ;D ;D

Well we didn't get the forecast 50C. That must have disappointed many. /sarc

In 1939, after the introduction of Stevenson Screens, Windsor NSW, recorded 122F.

That was 50C. ;)

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/95475076?searchTerm=many%20collapse%20from%20heat&searchLimits=

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 5:33pm:

Well we didn't get the forecast 50C. That must have disappointed many. /sarc In 1939, after the introduction of Stevenson Screens, Windsor NSW, recorded 122F. That was 50C. ;) https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/95475076?searchTerm=many%20collapse%20from%20heat&searchLimits=

Your so good with numbers Lee. 

Tell us all how many people there are in Australia?

random wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 5:37pm:

Tell us all how many people there are in Australia?

about 25 million Already answered are you really that obtuse? ;D ;D ;D ;D

But remind us "8 year olds can read science, 16 year olds can read science". But you can't? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 6:02pm:

random wrote on Dec 22nd, 2019 at 5:37pm: Tell us all how many people there are in Australia? about 25 million Already answered are you really that obtuse? ;D ;D ;D ;D But remind us "8 year olds can read science, 16 year olds can read science". But you can't? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

So where did the 22 million you said yesterday come from?  "Today's population is about 22,110,000."

Greta gets the science of Climate Change, while you are denying it.  One of you is educated, I think it's the girl.

random wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 6:05pm:

So where did the 22 million you said yesterday come from?  "Today's population is about 22,110,000."

As I said yesterday "I stuffed up". You really have trouble remembering stuff don't you?


random wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 6:05pm:

Greta gets the science of Climate Change, while you are denying it.

So Greta gets it and you don't so you rely on a 16 years old girl because you don't do science. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



random wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 6:05pm:

One of you is educated, I think it's the girl.

I am glad you didn't include yourself. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And you can actually think? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You couldn't even get your random/chimera posts right. ;)