Qantas axing hundreds of jobs    :(   

Financial Review
Nov 26, 2019

Qantas Airways is planning to lay off hundreds of workers before Christmas as the Australian airline executes its cost-cutting strategy.

Preparations for hundreds of imminent redundancies come only weeks after an analysis by superannuation investors showed Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce earned a realised pay of almost $24 million for 2017-18, including the vesting of bonus shares awarded for the airline's strong financial performance.   :(

Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce topped the list of highest paid CEOs for 2017-18.   

Some company managers are upset about being required to carry out the job cuts in the wake of the publicity about Mr Joyce's huge pay packet, a Qantas source said.

The person, who is involved in carrying out the looming job cuts, said about 400 positions would be lost across its Australian and global business.

A Qantas spokesman disputed that the number of job losses would be that high and pointed to a corporate restructure focused on head office roles - rather than on-the-ground operational jobs - that was flagged earlier this month.


The number of redundancies has not been publicly disclosed by the airline.

“We recently confirmed that our group executive committee would reduce by one and there would be consolidation of some corporate roles where it made sense to do so, but the figures being quoted are wrong," the Qantas spokesman said.

“To be clear about this, we are still growing in cabin crew, in pilots, in airport staff.

“In a business the size of Qantas, there is often change occurring.”
Total yet to be determined

It is understood Qantas's human resources department is still working through the workforce changes and the exact number of employees who will be affected.

The airline has already announced its group executive for people and culture, Lesley Grant, is retiring at the end of the year after 17 years with the company.

Trade unions sources said they are not expecting the loss of so-called operational roles, such as airline maintenance staff, cabin crew and baggage handlers.

The job-cut preparations come after the Australian Council of Superannuation Investors in September named Mr Joyce as the country's highest-paid chief executive.

ACSI in September showed he topped ASX-100 CEOs with $23.87 million in realised pay in the 2017-18 financial year, due to a combination of performance bonus rights reaching maturity.

Mr Joyce took the top spot after reaping the rewards of a large long-term incentive allocation granted to him in 2014, when the share price was just $1.26.



Mr Joyce previously raised the prospect of job losses in the airline's September quarter results, saying Qantas would focus on cost reductions and improving efficiencies in the business.

Last week the topic resurfaced, with Qantas aiming aggressive cost-cutting initiatives at its domestic operations to lift operating margins.

At the time, the airline's spokesman said this would not result in a significant job losses.
Virgin cutting jobs too.   :(

The topic of job losses is also gripping Qantas competitor Virgin Australia.

The airline's chief executive Paul Scurrah - who took on the role in February to turn the habitual loss-maker into a profitable company - announced 750 corporate job cuts in August.

Mr Scurrah said the losses would save $75 million a year after he unveiled Virgin Australia's $350 million loss for the 2019 financial year.

He gets up to a lot of mischief.

Alan Joyce - Qantas poof - Irish gnome:


http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/mooning-gnome1_003.jpg

Let me see

Qantas are a global carrier

They can probably employ grateful enthusiastic Petit stewardesses from Thailand for $200 a week

Or they can employ entitled unmotivated overweight stewardesses from Australia who are probably members of some reprehensible Union for $1,500 a week

Now looking at it from Qantas,s perspective
It's not really a hard decision is it

If Australians want to make more money they will need to learn to compete on the global stage

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 9:08am:

They can probably employ grateful enthusiastic Petit stewardesses from Thailand for $200 a week

If that's for a 38 hour week, it would be illegal.

Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce topped the list of highest paid CEOs for 2017-18.   :( 

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 9:16am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:08am: They can probably employ grateful enthusiastic Petit stewardesses from Thailand for $200 a week If that's for a 38 hour week, it would be illegal.

What are you on about
Are you suggesting that Qantas cannot employ people in Thailand and pay them the award wages of the Thailand industrial commission which would be considerably less then the over inflated wages demanded by reprehensible unions in Australia

whiteknight wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 9:16am:

Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce topped the list of highest paid CEOs for 2017-18.   :(

You look at that and become bitter resentful and jealous
I looked at that and admire someone who has climbed to the top of the hierarchy and it would encourage me to become aspirational and ambitious

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 9:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:16am: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:08am: They can probably employ grateful enthusiastic Petit stewardesses from Thailand for $200 a week If that's for a 38 hour week, it would be illegal. What are you on about

I'm on about you condoning criminal behaviour.

Are you a criminal yourself?

Silly old Greggy is going childish again as his obvious senility advances. He still thinks the Pommy Shop Stewards still run the unions.

It is all the unions fault demanding too much money and too luxurious conditions.

All the useless unions do these days is make people lose their jobs.

Will Qantas replace them with immigrants doing the same job for less and probably as contractors or casuals ?

People have a right to belong to a union.  Now with the Morrison coalition government, people will need unions more than ever.  For instance notice the coalition haven't done anything about restoring the weekend, and public holiday penalty rates back to what they were.  Yet we know that most people support penalty rates.  Those working on those days have lost thousands of dollars, yet the coalition doesn't care less.   :(   

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 9:31am:

whiteknight wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:16am: Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce topped the list of highest paid CEOs for 2017-18.   :(  You look at that and become bitter resentful and jealous I looked at that and admire someone who has climbed to the top of the hierarchy and it would encourage me to become aspirational and ambitious

Why aren't you a stockbroker instead of a farmer?

Spot

The dumb old BlackDay parrot who wouldn't know what day it is, doesn't realize the unions have hardly any members anymore because they are useless and run by old white men and their only function is to make people lose their jobs.

But that figures because the unions and Labor are supporting the LIMA Agreement which sends Australian jobs overseas.

The truth is that they are simply looking to get rid of all non POOFTAHS.

The LGBTIQSELFISH is taking over

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:31am: whiteknight wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:16am: Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce topped the list of highest paid CEOs for 2017-18.   :(  You look at that and become bitter resentful and jealous I looked at that and admire someone who has climbed to the top of the hierarchy and it would encourage me to become aspirational and ambitious Why aren't you a stockbroker instead of a farmer? Spot

there is something empowering about bouncing out of bed and having to stare down mother nature.

a safe job could never satisfy that buzz

Aqua, what about the drought and the bush fires ?

droughts always end.

and they create buying opportunities.

most businesses fail
very few businesses last to a third generation.

accepting this fully, you are a fool to think you can ever rest on your laurels or sit back and take it easy.

any business (farms included) that is still trying to do things the same way they were done 30 years ago will cease to exist.

you dont have to be smart, you just have to "pay attention"

and if you dont pay attnetion, then you are wilfully blind and you will be taken out.

if anything these disasters are the reason australian farmers are the worlds best...they are constantly facing attack.


where would you expect to find the worlds best soldiers.
in a place where they were never under attack or in a place where they faced attack and annihilation on a daily basis.

you dont want it to be easy.
you have to love it when its hard.

jesus.

you dont want to end up like steve and janeen, sitting on a couch pleasuring yourself, just being reactive.


you want to be constantly wrestling, fighting, grapelling and struggling.
then you can grow and become more then you were.

then you can look at the crybaby and the person who wallows in self pity and see it for what it is.

weakness.

and you dont want to be weak.

so you dont allow it

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

droughts always end. and they create buying opportunities. most businesses fail very few businesses last to a third generation. accepting this fully, you are a fool to think you can ever rest on your laurels or sit back and take it easy. any business (farms included) that is still trying to do things the same way they were done 30 years ago will cease to exist. you dont have to be smart, you just have to "pay attention" and if you dont pay attnetion, then you are wilfully blind and you will be taken out. if anything these disasters are the reason australian farmers are the worlds best...they are constantly facing attack. where would you expect to find the worlds best soldiers. in a place where they were never under attack or in a place where they faced attack and annihilation on a daily basis. you dont want it to be easy. you have to love it when its hard. jesus. you dont want to end up like steve and janeen, sitting on a couch pleasuring yourself, just being reactive. you want to be constantly wrestling, fighting, grapelling and struggling. then you can grow and become more then you were. then you can look at the crybaby and the person who wallows in self pity and see it for what it is. weakness. and you dont want to be weak. so you dont allow it

Farmers can't do anything without water security.
Most of the rain that we get in Australia is during
the wet season in the tropical North.
Trillions of gallons of water just gets washed out to sea.
Farmers need a North to South pipeline or we're doomed.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 2:01pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:31am: whiteknight wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:16am: Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce topped the list of highest paid CEOs for 2017-18.   :(  You look at that and become bitter resentful and jealous I looked at that and admire someone who has climbed to the top of the hierarchy and it would encourage me to become aspirational and ambitious Why aren't you a stockbroker instead of a farmer? Spot there is something empowering about bouncing out of bed and having to stare down mother nature. a safe job could never satisfy that buzz

I think being a farmer would be about the hardest profession there is.

Farmers are greatly underappreciated and disrespected

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 11:20pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 8:38pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 2:01pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:31am: whiteknight wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:16am: Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce topped the list of highest paid CEOs for 2017-18.   :(  You look at that and become bitter resentful and jealous I looked at that and admire someone who has climbed to the top of the hierarchy and it would encourage me to become aspirational and ambitious Why aren't you a stockbroker instead of a farmer? Spot there is something empowering about bouncing out of bed and having to stare down mother nature. a safe job could never satisfy that buzz I think being a farmer would be about the hardest profession there is. Farmers are greatly underappreciated and disrespected

Yeah right.......

It rains.......oh my we are going to flood help us.

Sun shines......oh my we are in drought

Windy.......oh my we are getting our top soil blown away

It's cold......oh my the crops will die


It's hot......oh my the crops will die.

Pack of shyness, all of them.

Valkie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2019 at 4:26am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 11:20pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 8:38pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 2:01pm: aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:31am: whiteknight wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:16am: Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce topped the list of highest paid CEOs for 2017-18.   :(  You look at that and become bitter resentful and jealous I looked at that and admire someone who has climbed to the top of the hierarchy and it would encourage me to become aspirational and ambitious Why aren't you a stockbroker instead of a farmer? Spot there is something empowering about bouncing out of bed and having to stare down mother nature. a safe job could never satisfy that buzz I think being a farmer would be about the hardest profession there is. Farmers are greatly underappreciated and disrespected Yeah right....... It rains.......oh my we are going to flood help us. Sun shines......oh my we are in drought Windy.......oh my we are getting our top soil blown away It's cold......oh my the crops will die It's hot......oh my the crops will die. Pack of shyness, all of them.

Indeed
The crybaby narrative

Let's examine this a bit more closely
Why do certain sectors of the community become crybabies and what are the consequences

A crybaby mentality is really a retreat into the self-pitying emotional state of a distressed toddler

it's the desire not to take responsibility for yourself and your circumstances and to yell and scream and have a tantrum and expect an adult to come to your assistance

Unfortunately governments have pandered to this crybaby mentality probably since Gough Whitlam and the marxists started to manufacture the nanny state

And everyone and every group has found that the way to get attention from the dysfunctional parent
Dysfunctional parent being Canberra

Is throw a bigger tantrum and be a bigger crybaby and take less and less personal responsibility and blame government for the circumstances of your life

This has terrible consequences

We see it played out in the dysfunction of every group which has seen victimhood and being a big sook as the solution to it's problems
It's not

Self pity is the absolute antithesis of moving forward up the narrow road to success


You may be right valkey
It may be that the crybaby mentality has soaked into the psyche of the Australian farmer
Certainly their children would have been exposed to this through the Marxist victimhood cry baby education system

What should be the consequences for the country and indeed for you valkey

Not good I am afraid

If farmers really are going to abdicate their personal responsibility and join the rest of the nation in a big sook fest
Then most of them will probably relinquish their land too eager multinational agriculture corporations and to eager Chinese government interests

If you are correct and the crybaby mentality becomes the default position you can look forward to most of rural Australia being taken over by the strong powerful influencers
And you can look forward to the booty from our land being shipped along Chinese railways to Chinese ports on to Chinese ships add off to Chinese dinner plates

Australians have better hope that farmers don't follow the rest of the nation down the crybaby rabbit hole

Quote:

Why do certain sectors of the community become crybabies and what are the consequences

Because they can get free money out of it . . .  consequences = free money

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 29^th, 2019 at 6:46am:

Quote: Why do certain sectors of the community become crybabies and what are the consequences Because they can get free money out of it . . .  consequences = free money Spot

Unfortunately there is no such thing as a free lunch
Listen very carefully to this advice
It is the best advice you will ever get

You never want a dollar given to you that you didn't earn
I will repeat that for you spot
You never want a dollar you didn't earn

As soon as you start down that road
Your psychology will trick you into rationalising laziness and abdicating responsibility

And if you allow yourself to excuse yourself for weakness laziness and lack of personal responsibility
Then you are diminished as a human being
You won't be able to admit this to yourself of course
Human beings rationalize all behaviour

But once you start behaving like a child and wanting to be looked after
Once you become a taker instead of a contributor
You have corrupted yourself
And it will be all downhill from there

Once you allow yourself to become a taker from the government
What will stop you from becoming a taker from your partner
What will stop you from becoming a taker from your relatives
what will stop you becoming a taker from your friends
What will stop you becoming a taker from your children

Farmers can go and become takers if they want
My prediction is it will end in an utter catastrophe if they do

Im not a farmer - i was just answering your question

Spot

Farmers hopefully have the common sense to not try to breastfeed from Canberra

We see so many groups who have gone down this terrible route

Centrelink recipients
All of the people that aren't doing well in life try to drink from this poison chalice

And they end up utterly miserable

Farmer who can remain strong proud independent and continue to be productive can lie on his deathbed with a smile of satisfaction

The person who tried to be a taker and tried to breast feed from Canberra will be lying on that same deathbed tortured by the meaninglessness of his existence

Bobby. wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 9:18pm: droughts always end. and they create buying opportunities. most businesses fail very few businesses last to a third generation. accepting this fully, you are a fool to think you can ever rest on your laurels or sit back and take it easy. any business (farms included) that is still trying to do things the same way they were done 30 years ago will cease to exist. you dont have to be smart, you just have to "pay attention" and if you dont pay attnetion, then you are wilfully blind and you will be taken out. if anything these disasters are the reason australian farmers are the worlds best...they are constantly facing attack. where would you expect to find the worlds best soldiers. in a place where they were never under attack or in a place where they faced attack and annihilation on a daily basis. you dont want it to be easy. you have to love it when its hard. jesus. you dont want to end up like steve and janeen, sitting on a couch pleasuring yourself, just being reactive. you want to be constantly wrestling, fighting, grapelling and struggling. then you can grow and become more then you were. then you can look at the crybaby and the person who wallows in self pity and see it for what it is. weakness. and you dont want to be weak. so you dont allow it Farmers can't do anything without water security. Most of the rain that we get in Australia is during the wet season in the tropical North. Trillions of gallons of water just gets washed out to sea. Farmers need a North to South pipeline or we're doomed.

Aqua just ignores posts like mine
as they make a lot of sense.

Actually Bobby my apologies
Your post does make some sense.

the Queensland opposition leader Deborah freckleton who is herself a farmer's daughter and a strong powerful and resilient individual
Has proposed the building of the bradfield scheme 2 channel water from Tully and innisfail where it runs out destructively over the barrier reef and to channel this water inland to help western Queensland

I think it's a smart move

The farmer should always work hand-in-hand with the sensible conservative government
The farmer should never go with his hand out to the nonsensical labour government

The former is a collaborative and productive relationship
The latter is a codependent toxic relationship

aquascoot wrote on Nov 29^th, 2019 at 9:42am:

Actually Bobby my apologies Your post does make some sense. the Queensland opposition leader Deborah freckleton who is herself a farmer's daughter and a strong powerful and resilient individual Has proposed the building of the bradfield scheme 2 channel water from Tully and innisfail where it runs out destructively over the barrier reef and to channel this water inland to help western Queensland I think it's a smart move The farmer should always work hand-in-hand with the sensible conservative government The farmer should never go with his hand out to the nonsensical labour government The former is a collaborative and productive relationship The latter is a codependent toxic relationship

The driest continent on earth wastes
the huge amount of tropical rainfall.

Doesn't make any sense to me.

But what does it matter as the Greenies tell us the world is going to end. 

Unless they get their UN One World Socialist "Govt" in a Sustainable World and that will bring equality and peace and harmony to all except the billion or so they have to exterminate to get down to a sustainable population level.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 29^th, 2019 at 9:49am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 29th, 2019 at 9:42am: Actually Bobby my apologies Your post does make some sense. the Queensland opposition leader Deborah freckleton who is herself a farmer's daughter and a strong powerful and resilient individual Has proposed the building of the bradfield scheme 2 channel water from Tully and innisfail where it runs out destructively over the barrier reef and to channel this water inland to help western Queensland I think it's a smart move The farmer should always work hand-in-hand with the sensible conservative government The farmer should never go with his hand out to the nonsensical labour government The former is a collaborative and productive relationship The latter is a codependent toxic relationship The driest continent on earth wastes the huge amount of tropical rainfall. Doesn't make any sense to me.

Yes Bobby I think at the heights of the burdekin River floods of 2017
The equivalent of 1000 Olympic swimming pools was flowing out to see every minute
Inundating the barrier reef in silt

All of that wonderful moisture and topsoil could have been top-dressing from longreach to birdsville

But the Greenies ban any and all DAMS and every other developments.

If the greenies really were the party that stood up for the bush then we would have green candidates and green politicians being successful in rural Australia

That of course is the complete opposite of what is happening

Green candidates are successful only in inner city concrete jungles

Because the greenie is a very conflicted and twisted individual

He sees himself as a champion of nature and yet he is too cowardly to ever venture out into it

Most of the farmers I know and most of the farmers wives are about as different from Adam bandt and Sarah Hanson young as it would be possible for two members of the same species to be
to the average Australian farmer and his wife
The greens may as well come from Mars

But Aqua what everyone misses is that the Lunatic Extremist Greenies have a hidden Agenda - AGENDA 2030.

All their bulldust and panic raising with the Global Warming/cooling HOAX and the WORLD is GOING to END DOOMSDAY rubbish is all designed to create panic and make frightened people think their UN ONE WORLD Socialist "Govt" in a Sustainable World is the ONLY WAY the WORLD CAN BE SAVED.

juliar wrote on Nov 29^th, 2019 at 10:58am:

But Aqua what everyone misses is that the Lunatic Extremist Greenies have a hidden Agenda - AGENDA 2030. All their bulldust and panic raising with the Global Warming/cooling HOAX and the WORLD is GOING to END DOOMSDAY rubbish is all designed to create panic and make frightened people think their UN ONE WORLD Socialist "Govt" in a Sustainable World is the ONLY WAY the WORLD CAN BE SAVED.

From what ppl tell me about 2030 its not just the greenies its lib and lab as well

Spot

Sir spot, don't listen to others, read it for yourself and you will feel slightly sick as you realize what the evil Greenies are really up to.

And just for an important well informed and well educated person like you

https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/22267-un-agenda-2030-a-recipe-for-global-socialism


https://australiafirstparty.net/australia-in-peril/globalism-harm/un-agenda-2030/