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General Discussion >> Thinking Globally >> In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1574726391 Message started by Sir lastnail on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:59am |
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Title: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:59am
A damning report by WWF puts the worsening condition of Planet Earth into perspective
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https://www.cntraveller.in/story/45-years-killed-60-earths-wildlife/#s-cust0 |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 26th, 2019 at 2:22pm
Come on lee where the hell are you ? :D LOL
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 2:38pm
Sorry Petal. Men's Shed this morning.
I had a look at the study rather than the report of the study. They are all models based studies. ;D |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 26th, 2019 at 3:08pm lee wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
and your model says non of them have disappeared :D LOL |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 3:36pm Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 3:08pm:
No petal. Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:59am:
According to the report a 60% decline not species extinction. And of course that wouldn't be across all species. ;) |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 26th, 2019 at 4:38pm
The WWF says:
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 4:44pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Yeah one BIG if. And all based on models. ;) |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 26th, 2019 at 4:54pm lee wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 4:44pm:
Someone must know though. Some research facility must be keeping track? Spot |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by xeej on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:00pm
Lee is starting to wonder if he has got it all wrong.
60% doesn't sound good, it sounds like a disaster. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by macman on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:20pm Johnnie wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:00pm:
Petal is never wrong. He lives in a psrallel universe along with his partner Liar. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by xeej on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:27pm macman wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:20pm:
Honey bunch sugar plum will have a graph soon. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:51pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 4:54pm:
The 100 million species was a modeled study.1. How many species do we know? 2. What percentage of species don't we know? Multiply 1 x 2. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:53pm Johnnie wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:00pm:
60% is also modeled. And they blame all those declinations on man. Rats are a common cause because they eat eggs. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:55pm macman wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:20pm:
Oh dear. Cartoon time must have finished. The "deep" thinker is here. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by xeej on Nov 26th, 2019 at 6:14pm lee wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 5:53pm:
I hate rats. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 6:23pm
"A new method co-developed by Anahí Espíndola, an assistant professor of entomology at the University of Maryland, uses the power of machine learning and open-access data to predict species that could be eligible for at-risk status. The research team created and trained a machine learning algorithm to assess more than 150,000 species of plants from all corners of the world, making their project among the largest assessments of conservation risk to date. "
https://umdrightnow.umd.edu/news/new-machine-learning-method-predicts-possible-additions-global-list-threatened-plant-species Or you could refer to - "Native plants and animals can rapidly become superabundant and dominate ecosystems, leading to claims that native species are no less likely than alien species to cause environmental damage, including biodiversity loss. We compared how frequently alien and native species have been implicated as drivers of recent extinctions in a comprehensive global database, the 2017 International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) Red List of Threatened Species. Alien species were considered to be a contributing cause of 25% of plant extinctions and 33% of animal extinctions, whereas native species were implicated in less than 5% and 3% of plant and animal extinctions, respectively." https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/fee.2020 So alien species contributed 60%, man 60%.... ::) |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by xeej on Nov 26th, 2019 at 6:43pm lee wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 6:23pm:
That's a laugh, extinction of species only means the ferals and invasive species move in, no more species will be created. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Frank on Nov 26th, 2019 at 6:59pm Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:59am:
Bollocks on stilts, with knobs on. It's third wolders, not all humans. The tinted, ungovernable, racacious part of humanity. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 7:10pm Johnnie wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 6:43pm:
You must tell us how new species are created. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You do understand the term "alien species"? It is far more than "invasive" species. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by .JaSin. on Nov 26th, 2019 at 7:28pm
Good post Nail.
All we need is the Hammer to reply. :D Seriously though - the TIPPING POINT is always over the 50%. Along with Trees on this planet at 80% in since the Whiteys discovered that the Darkies covered most of the Planet in many other regions. Species as 'listed', yes - 60+% of known and discovered have become extinct. Some have been saved from the brink of death - like the Orynx - of whom only 6 remained alive in Africa. Hunters from the USA took them from Namibia and ranched them in Texas back to 20,000... for Hunting of Course. ;) Humanity will NEVER find LIFE out there in the Galaxy. Until it can save, maintain and grow LIFE here first - because the Galaxy is not 'just' for Humans. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 7:56pm Jasin wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 7:28pm:
Reference? "Since 1900, nearly 500 species of animal have gone extinct, according to a 2015 study. " Now there are at least 8.7 million species. perhaps you can explain the discrepancy. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by philperth2010 on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:03pm
The 60% figure in the OP does not refer to extinctions....Why do people deliberately miss represent the facts???
::) ::) ::) The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments. Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191 |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by xeej on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:03pm lee wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 7:10pm:
Darwin will tell you that new species are created in new environments, not in rat and weed infested industrial wasteland though. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:04pm
" The Millennium Ecosystem Assessment, which involved more than a thousand experts, estimated an extinction rate that was later calculated at up to 8,700 species a year, or 24 a day. More recently, scientists at the U.N. Convention on Biological Diversity concluded that: “Every day, up to 150 species are lost.” That could be as much as 10 percent a decade.
golden toad The golden toad, once abundant in parts of Costa Rica, was declared extinct in 2007. WIKIMEDIA COMMONS But nobody knows whether such estimates are anywhere close to reality. They are based on computer modeling, and documented losses are tiny by comparison. Only about 800 extinctions have been documented in the past 400 years, according to data held by the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN). Out of some 1.9 million recorded current or recent species on the planet, that represents less than a tenth of one percent. Nor is there much documented evidence of accelerating loss. In its latest update, released in June, the IUCN reported “no new extinctions,” although last year it reported the loss of an earwig on the island of St. Helena and a Malaysian snail. And some species once thought extinct have turned out to be still around, like the Guadalupe fur seal, which “died out” a century ago, but now numbers over 20,000. Moreover, the majority of documented extinctions have been on small islands, where species with small gene pools have usually succumbed to human hunters. That may be an ecological tragedy for the islands concerned, but most species live in continental areas and, ecologists agree, are unlikely to prove so vulnerable. " https://e360.yale.edu/features/global_extinction_rates_why_do_estimates_vary_so_wildly |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:04pm philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:03pm:
As I pointed out. ;) |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:05pm Johnnie wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:03pm:
And seeing as the earth has no new environments? ;) |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by xeej on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:23pm lee wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:05pm:
There are less environments and virtually zero chance of new species. Doomsday looms. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:33pm
Why can't the UN stop the Amazon from being destroyed?
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by freediver on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:43pm
So Lee is complaining that they did not go out and count every animal on earth?
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Robot on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:13pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
I know, right? When the UN crypto-globalist-communist police state took over I expected some darn policing. Right now they're acting like they can't even tell national governments what to do. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Bobby. on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:20pm Robot wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:13pm:
The UN seems to be doing nothing that's any good - they just watch while the Amazon is being destroyed. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:25pm Johnnie wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:23pm:
There are the same number of environments. Some may have moved. ;) |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by lee on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:27pm freediver wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:43pm:
Poor petal. Perpetually wedded to the idea that faster computers make things more accurate. They don't. Any mistakes they just make faster. ;) |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Robot on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:28pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:20pm:
They should send a sternly-worded letter to Bolsonaro. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by .JaSin. on Nov 26th, 2019 at 10:39pm
The United Nations will do nothing about it except get paid to talk about it.
Why? Because there is no-one they can turn to that can show the expertise to do something about it. Hell, there isn't even a International Rescue for natural disasters around the world. Instead they can only send in Military units with sky blue labels to pile sand-bags, try to stop looting and any other Political or Military issues that arise. If the world is going to crap while Asia & North America get ready for War. Where is Africa & Australia (Sahul) to help stop the self-destruction of the world for their own part? Europe and South America, Middle-East and Oceania?? This world will get worse and by the look of it so far, we can do nothing about it besides the two main industries in the world just talking about it and making more guns. No wonder the youth of the world are just turning to drugs and alcohol to numb the pain of hopelessness. You're all gonna die. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Bobby. on Nov 27th, 2019 at 5:40am Robot wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:28pm:
He's an arsehole. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49815731 President Jair Bolsonaro has insisted that the Brazilian areas of the Amazon rainforest are sovereign territory. Conservationists blame Mr Bolsonaro and his government for turning a blind eye to farmers and loggers clearing land in the Amazon, hastening deforestation. But in an address at the United Nations in New York, he struck a defiant note. He said it was a "fallacy" to describe the Amazon as the heritage of humanity and a "misconception" that its forests were the lungs of the world. Brazil - home to more than half the Amazon rainforest - has seen a significant rise in the number of fires in 2019, according to US space agency Nasa and others. Environmentalists say the far-right Mr Bolsonaro's policies have led to an increase in fires this year, and that he has encouraged cattle farmers and loggers to clear large areas of the rainforest since his election last October. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Robot on Nov 27th, 2019 at 1:40pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2019 at 5:40am:
Nonsense--he's Making Brazil Great Again. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Frank on Nov 27th, 2019 at 6:40pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
Who is the UN? What power does it have? Where does that power come from? Who is paying for it? |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Bobby. on Nov 28th, 2019 at 10:13am Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2019 at 6:40pm:
It's the United Nations - where all nations unite to do good in the world. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Robot on Nov 28th, 2019 at 7:20pm
Your questions answered courtesy of unsecrets.info:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2019 at 6:40pm:
A cabal of reptilian globalists. Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2019 at 6:40pm:
Wind turbines on the moon. Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2019 at 6:40pm:
Solar winds Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2019 at 6:40pm:
George Soros. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by xeej on Nov 28th, 2019 at 7:50pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 28th, 2019 at 10:13am:
That's good to know. |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 25th, 2019 at 4:34pm Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:59am:
there are too many humans on the globe by far |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by .JaSin. on Dec 25th, 2019 at 6:54pm
No more Animals and not much in way of crops.
Population 10 Billion! Evolution casts its next stone and those that feed on Humans will take the future... and feeding comes in many ways. ;) |
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Title: Re: In 45 years,we have killed 60% of Earth’s wildlife Post by Bobby. on Dec 25th, 2019 at 7:20pm Robot wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 9:13pm:
We can't do anything about it - if The UN can't then they might as well close shop and get us another authority that could do some good in the world. |
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