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Message started by Frank on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm

Title: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm
Po-faced old aunty Bwian insists that there are no races because we can interbreed.

Here is an hour long SBS discussion on RACE and dating. If there is no such thing as race, aunty Bwian, what the hell are these white, asian, indian, african people talking about???

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/241154627645/insight-dating-race

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by rhino on Nov 12th, 2019 at 9:59pm
A Long-Busted Myth: It's Not True That Animals Belonging To Different Species Can Never Interbreed
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelmarshalleurope/2018/08/28/a-long-busted-myth-its-not-true-that-animals-belonging-to-different-species-can-never-interbreed/#63aea043e65d

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by rhino on Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:22pm
well that shut Brian up.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:14pm

rhino wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:22pm:
well that shut Brian up.


Has it?  Can't read your article 'cause it insists that I turn off my ad blocker - something I refuse to do.

Until you post the full article I suspect I'll never read it, Rhino.  ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:17pm

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Po-faced old aunty Bwian insists that there are no races because we can interbreed.

Here is an hour long SBS discussion on RACE and dating. If there is no such thing as race, aunty Bwian, what the hell are these white, asian, indian, african people talking about???

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/241154627645/insight-dating-race



I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 13th, 2019 at 5:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Po-faced old aunty Bwian insists that there are no races because we can interbreed.

Here is an hour long SBS discussion on RACE and dating. If there is no such thing as race, aunty Bwian, what the hell are these white, asian, indian, african people talking about???

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/241154627645/insight-dating-race



I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)



Science itself IS a social construct, Bwian, as has been plainly pointed out to you many, many, many times, yet you are unable to comprehend it because it shots down your idiotic insistence on genetics versus social construction. People relate to each other SOCIALLY, Bwian, they don't constantly compare their genomes.


Po-faced old, know-nuffin' aunty is still correct. Add incomprehending.




Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 13th, 2019 at 6:17pm

Frank wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 5:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Po-faced old aunty Bwian insists that there are no races because we can interbreed.

Here is an hour long SBS discussion on RACE and dating. If there is no such thing as race, aunty Bwian, what the hell are these white, asian, indian, african people talking about???

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/241154627645/insight-dating-race



I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)



Science itself IS a social construct, Bwian, as has been plainly pointed out to you many, many, many times, yet you are unable to comprehend it because it shots down your idiotic insistence on genetics versus social construction. People relate to each other SOCIALLY, Bwian, they don't constantly compare their genomes.

Po-faced old, know-nuffin' aunty is still correct. Add incomprehending.


I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)

Go and play in your mud patch, Soren.  Enjoy yourself.   ::) ::)




Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 13th, 2019 at 7:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 6:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 5:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Po-faced old aunty Bwian insists that there are no races because we can interbreed.

Here is an hour long SBS discussion on RACE and dating. If there is no such thing as race, aunty Bwian, what the hell are these white, asian, indian, african people talking about???

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/241154627645/insight-dating-race



I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)



Science itself IS a social construct, Bwian, as has been plainly pointed out to you many, many, many times, yet you are unable to comprehend it because it shots down your idiotic insistence on genetics versus social construction. People relate to each other SOCIALLY, Bwian, they don't constantly compare their genomes.

Po-faced old, know-nuffin' aunty is still correct. Add incomprehending.


I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)

Go and play in your mud patch, Soren.  Enjoy yourself.   ::) ::)


You are an idiot, plain to see for all.



Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 13th, 2019 at 10:25pm

Frank wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 7:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 6:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 5:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Po-faced old aunty Bwian insists that there are no races because we can interbreed.

Here is an hour long SBS discussion on RACE and dating. If there is no such thing as race, aunty Bwian, what the hell are these white, asian, indian, african people talking about???

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/241154627645/insight-dating-race



I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)



Science itself IS a social construct, Bwian, as has been plainly pointed out to you many, many, many times, yet you are unable to comprehend it because it shots down your idiotic insistence on genetics versus social construction. People relate to each other SOCIALLY, Bwian, they don't constantly compare their genomes.

Po-faced old, know-nuffin' aunty is still correct. Add incomprehending.


I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)

Go and play in your mud patch, Soren.  Enjoy yourself.   ::) ::)


You are an idiot, plain to see for all.


Go and play in your mud patch, Soren.  Enjoy yourself.   ::) ::)


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:45am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 6:17pm:
The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality



They were discussing neither social construct nor scientific reality ... they were discussing the types of partners they preferred, preferences for certain phenotypes

Having the freedom to choose which ever ethnic partner we want is something lefty progressives humanists can do absolutely nothing about - sucko lefties ... when are you going to protest in the streets complaining about Anglo Aussie men choosing Anglo Aussie women as life time partners?

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:28am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 6:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 5:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Po-faced old aunty Bwian insists that there are no races because we can interbreed.

Here is an hour long SBS discussion on RACE and dating. If there is no such thing as race, aunty Bwian, what the hell are these white, asian, indian, african people talking about???

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/241154627645/insight-dating-race



I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)



Science itself IS a social construct, Bwian, as has been plainly pointed out to you many, many, many times, yet you are unable to comprehend it because it shots down your idiotic insistence on genetics versus social construction. People relate to each other SOCIALLY, Bwian, they don't constantly compare their genomes.

Po-faced old, know-nuffin' aunty is still correct. Add incomprehending.


I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)

Go and play in your mud patch, Soren.  Enjoy yourself.   ::) ::)




Are you insisting, Bwian, that science itself is NOT a social construct?

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by .JaSin. on Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:48am
You can not see the 'Oneness' until you accept the 'Differences'.

JaSin 2009: Racism

The Lands of Earth were once many and apart, then they became 'One' and now they are many again and they are moving towards Oneness again.


Different Teams, same Sport.  ;)


...in other words - you are 'all' right.
End of Argument (lock thread!  :D)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2019 at 2:33pm

Frank wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:28am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 6:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 5:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Po-faced old aunty Bwian insists that there are no races because we can interbreed.

Here is an hour long SBS discussion on RACE and dating. If there is no such thing as race, aunty Bwian, what the hell are these white, asian, indian, african people talking about???

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/241154627645/insight-dating-race



I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)



Science itself IS a social construct, Bwian, as has been plainly pointed out to you many, many, many times, yet you are unable to comprehend it because it shots down your idiotic insistence on genetics versus social construction. People relate to each other SOCIALLY, Bwian, they don't constantly compare their genomes.

Po-faced old, know-nuffin' aunty is still correct. Add incomprehending.


I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)

Go and play in your mud patch, Soren.  Enjoy yourself.   ::) ::)



Are you insisting, Bwian, that science itself is NOT a social construct?


Science is observation, Soren.   First you observe an event, then you theorise and then you test to see if your theory is correct or not.  If it isn't, you go back to the first step, observe the event again and rethink your theory and retest it.  You keep doing this until you have it right.  It is based on logic and reality.  Racism is based on bullshit, pure and simple and you are the chief proponent of that here.  ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2019 at 2:35pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 6:17pm:
The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality



They were discussing neither social construct nor scientific reality ... they were discussing the types of partners they preferred, preferences for certain phenotypes

Having the freedom to choose which ever ethnic partner we want is something lefty progressives humanists can do absolutely nothing about - sucko lefties ... when are you going to protest in the streets complaining about Anglo Aussie men choosing Anglo Aussie women as life time partners?


Absolutely nothing.  That is their choice.  The problem is when Anglo-Aussie men pass laws which prevent themselves or women from choosing partners from other Phenotypes (which has occurred).   You cannot legislate against love or desire.  Something the Racists need to realise.  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:04pm
It's funny how Brian just sees racial differences as skin deep. Blacks have been in the US for 400 years living in a cold climate and they still look black to me.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:14pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:04pm:
It's funny how Brian just sees racial differences as skin deep. Blacks have been in the US for 400 years living in a cold climate and they still look black to me.


400 years is a drop in the ocean of evolution, Hammer.   You need thousands, tens of thousands of years for evolution to work.

Some white people seek darker skin through tanning, Hammer.  Some black people seek whiter skins through "whitening lotions".   Still doesn't alter who they are or what they are.  ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:28pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:04pm:
It's funny how Brian just sees racial differences as skin deep. Blacks have been in the US for 400 years living in a cold climate and they still look black to me.


400 years is a drop in the ocean of evolution, Hammer.   You need thousands, tens of thousands of years for evolution to work.

Some white people seek darker skin through tanning, Hammer.  Some black people seek whiter skins through "whitening lotions".   Still doesn't alter who they are or what they are.  ::)

Look at African Albinos. They are white and still look African. It's more than skin Brian. Whities have more alien DNA while blacks have less. There's a weird one for you.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:38pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:04pm:
It's funny how Brian just sees racial differences as skin deep. Blacks have been in the US for 400 years living in a cold climate and they still look black to me.


400 years is a drop in the ocean of evolution, Hammer.   You need thousands, tens of thousands of years for evolution to work.

Some white people seek darker skin through tanning, Hammer.  Some black people seek whiter skins through "whitening lotions".   Still doesn't alter who they are or what they are.  ::)

Look at African Albinos. They are white and still look African. It's more than skin Brian. Whities have more alien DNA while blacks have less. There's a weird one for you.


"Alien DNA"?   Really?   Where does it come from, Mars?  ::)

Hammer, if it is part of the Human Genome, it isn't "alien" at all - it is a part of humanity.

You have to face reality.  Racism is dead.  Eugenics died with it.  Genetics killed them both.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 2:35pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 6:17pm:
The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality



They were discussing neither social construct nor scientific reality ... they were discussing the types of partners they preferred, preferences for certain phenotypes

Having the freedom to choose which ever ethnic partner we want is something lefty progressives humanists can do absolutely nothing about - sucko lefties ... when are you going to protest in the streets complaining about Anglo Aussie men choosing Anglo Aussie women as life time partners?


Absolutely nothing.  That is their choice.  The problem is when Anglo-Aussie men pass laws which prevent themselves or women from choosing partners from other Phenotypes (which has occurred).   You cannot legislate against love or desire or preference  Something the Racists need to realise.  ::) ::)



Conversely, Lefty progressive humanists better not legislate to make Anglo Aussies partner up with certain ethnic males/females

I wouldn't put it past Daniel Andrews legislating something like that if he could live long enough

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:49pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:04pm:
It's funny how Brian just sees racial differences as skin deep. Blacks have been in the US for 400 years living in a cold climate and they still look black to me.


400 years is a drop in the ocean of evolution, Hammer.   You need thousands, tens of thousands of years for evolution to work.

Some white people seek darker skin through tanning, Hammer.  Some black people seek whiter skins through "whitening lotions".   Still doesn't alter who they are or what they are.  ::)

Look at African Albinos. They are white and still look African. It's more than skin Brian. Whities have more alien DNA while blacks have less. There's a weird one for you.


Black Africans kill the albinos and sell their body parts

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:04pm:
It's funny how Brian just sees racial differences as skin deep. Blacks have been in the US for 400 years living in a cold climate and they still look black to me.


400 years is a drop in the ocean of evolution, Hammer.   You need thousands, tens of thousands of years for evolution to work.

Some white people seek darker skin through tanning, Hammer.  Some black people seek whiter skins through "whitening lotions".   Still doesn't alter who they are or what they are.  ::)

Look at African Albinos. They are white and still look African. It's more than skin Brian. Whities have more alien DNA while blacks have less. There's a weird one for you.


"Alien DNA"?   Really?   Where does it come from, Mars?  ::)

Hammer, if it is part of the Human Genome, it isn't "alien" at all - it is a part of humanity.

You have to face reality.  Racism is dead.  Eugenics died with it.  Genetics killed them both.

There are gaps in our DNA that they can't explain. The difference between throwing poo at one another in a ape enclosure and sending people to the moon is one hell of a evolutionary step. If we can do the things we are doing like space exploration  then why couldn't some other world. The sun has been slowly cooling for billions of years. Look at a campfire. As it slowly cools the heat retracts. Who's not to say that everyone of those planets in our solar system wasn't habitable when they were getting the adequate heat from the sun and slowly died as the heat retracted. Like what will eventually happen to earth. Some organism  might of hopped over from a dying planet.You need to keep an open mind Brian.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 14th, 2019 at 5:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 2:33pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:28am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 6:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 5:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Po-faced old aunty Bwian insists that there are no races because we can interbreed.

Here is an hour long SBS discussion on RACE and dating. If there is no such thing as race, aunty Bwian, what the hell are these white, asian, indian, african people talking about???

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/241154627645/insight-dating-race



I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)



Science itself IS a social construct, Bwian, as has been plainly pointed out to you many, many, many times, yet you are unable to comprehend it because it shots down your idiotic insistence on genetics versus social construction. People relate to each other SOCIALLY, Bwian, they don't constantly compare their genomes.

Po-faced old, know-nuffin' aunty is still correct. Add incomprehending.


I have explained to you many times my argument, Soren. That you have failed to grasp it simply suggests that you have your head so far up your arse that it doesn't matter.  The people on SBS are mistaken - 'cause they don't understand that they are discussing a social construct, not a scientific reality - just as you do continually.   Genetics has destroyed Racism.  QED.  ::)

Go and play in your mud patch, Soren.  Enjoy yourself.   ::) ::)



Are you insisting, Bwian, that science itself is NOT a social construct?


Science is observation, Soren.   First you observe an event, then you theorise and then you test to see if your theory is correct or not.  If it isn't, you go back to the first step, observe the event again and rethink your theory and retest it.  You keep doing this until you have it right.  It is based on logic and reality.  Racism is based on bullshit, pure and simple and you are the chief proponent of that here.  ::) ::) ::)

Science is an observation - that is really a very silly attempt to save your stupid non-argument, Bwian. What you notice while observing is a social construct, a matter of training, acculturation = social construct. People observe the natural and social and personal world differently because they are taught, trained, acculturated differently.

Science is a social construct, even by your own description.  The scientific method is a social construct of fairly recent invention by white Europeans although its roots go back to classical Greece.  It was not present in all human communities before white Europeans constructed this way of going about learning about the natural world and taught the rest of the world about it.
Some scientific theories are worse than others and so they get revised. Nobody has a fully 'observed' account of objective, as-it-is-itself reality, Bwian.

Cultures are also social constructs and therefore are not equal either. There is a hierarchy of cultures, just as there is a hierarchy of everything, including theories about the world, scientific or otherwise. Some social constructs (ideas, in short) are better than others, some are worse than all the others.

You cannot wish away racial or personal or linguistic or historic - in a word, cultural - differences. You can deplore the unequal treatment of people because of those differences but you cannot wish the differences away. They are there for all to see, including you.

You can say you don't approve of racism but to say that there are NO different races, cultures, peoples is just plain stupid, especially when you are also using language that distinguishes between such categories of people. Not to mention that it would make your disapproval of racism itself meaningless - a state of mind you have made uniquely your own, Bwian.








Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:47pm
I have explained to you numerous times my argument, Soren.  If your head is too deeply submerged in your arse to understand it, that is no fault of mine.  Genetics proves who we are and who we are is Homo Sapien Sapiens - the human race.  There is only one species, all the "races" are mere superficial evolutionary adaptations to local environmental conditions.  Racism relies on those superficial evolutionary adaptations and attempts to use them to classify people into different groups and a hierarchy of "races" which do not exist.  You harp on about those groups as if they actually mean something other than what you have conferred to them, Soren. Your ignorance and your foolishness shines forth in every post you make.  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by .JaSin. on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:21pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:04pm:
It's funny how Brian just sees racial differences as skin deep. Blacks have been in the US for 400 years living in a cold climate and they still look black to me.

But their 'blackness' slowly dissipates with each generation.
Just like I've seen many a pale, fair, light or white pair of parents with kids who are slightly acclimatised to Australia with better tanning skin.

Black people can take x7 much UV than White people or other races (Brown, Yellow, etc).
But if living in darker places like Scotland, Alaska, Patagonia, etc - they become low in Vitamin D and suffer from health side-effects.
Some even have their skin - go blotchy white. Which shows on their faces, feet or hands.
I know one Aboriginal who has 'white' hands.

Every 'colour' has its advantages and disadvantages.
Like how Rangas & Blondes are better at Politics than Raven-haired and Brunettes.  ;D :D

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:26pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:04pm:
It's funny how Brian just sees racial differences as skin deep. Blacks have been in the US for 400 years living in a cold climate and they still look black to me.

But their 'blackness' slowly dissipates with each generation.
Just like I've seen many a pale, fair, light or white pair of parents with kids who are slightly acclimatised to Australia with better tanning skin.

Black people can take x7 much UV than White people or other races (Brown, Yellow, etc).
But if living in darker places like Scotland, Alaska, Patagonia, etc - they become low in Vitamin D and suffer from health side-effects.
Some even have their skin - go blotchy white. Which shows on their faces, feet or hands.
I know one Aboriginal who has 'white' hands.

Every 'colour' has its advantages and disadvantages.
Like how Rangas & Blondes are better at Politics than Raven-haired and Brunettes.  ;D :D
If a persons body  got dumped out in the bush they can take that skull and determine if it belonged to a asian, caucasian or negro. It's more than skin deep.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by .JaSin. on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:30pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:26pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:04pm:
It's funny how Brian just sees racial differences as skin deep. Blacks have been in the US for 400 years living in a cold climate and they still look black to me.

But their 'blackness' slowly dissipates with each generation.
Just like I've seen many a pale, fair, light or white pair of parents with kids who are slightly acclimatised to Australia with better tanning skin.

Black people can take x7 much UV than White people or other races (Brown, Yellow, etc).
But if living in darker places like Scotland, Alaska, Patagonia, etc - they become low in Vitamin D and suffer from health side-effects.
Some even have their skin - go blotchy white. Which shows on their faces, feet or hands.
I know one Aboriginal who has 'white' hands.

Every 'colour' has its advantages and disadvantages.
Like how Rangas & Blondes are better at Politics than Raven-haired and Brunettes.  ;D :D
If a persons body  got dumped out in the bush they can take that skull and determine if it belonged to a asian, caucasian or negro. It's more than skin deep.


They can even tell if its a short and stocky Rugby League player or a tall, slender Aussie Rules player.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:47pm:
I have explained to you numerous times my argument, Soren.  If your head is too deeply submerged in your arse to understand it, that is no fault of mine.  Genetics proves who we are and who we are is Homo Sapien Sapiens - the human race.  There is only one species, all the "races" are mere superficial evolutionary adaptations to local environmental conditions.  Racism relies on those superficial evolutionary adaptations and attempts to use them to classify people into different groups and a hierarchy of "races" which do not exist.  You harp on about those groups as if they actually mean something other than what you have conferred to them, Soren. Your ignorance and your foolishness shines forth in every post you make.  ::) ::)

Your argument is self-contradictory and ultimately empty and meanigless. It is nothing but a misunderstanding and a confusion of, among many other stupidities, race and species. As if anyone other than you have used these categories interchangably.

Everyone recognises that there are different races, including you.  The whole SBS Insight program was about that.  None of it ever meant that they are all different species.






Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by miketrees on Nov 14th, 2019 at 9:03pm
Just my observation

Speciation starts with isolated populations
The speed of speciation depends on selection pressures

We have not had the isolation of populations in recent times
If Aboriginals were isolated in our harsh unusual condition for long enough....yrs they could have become a different species

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:34pm

miketrees wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
Just my observation

Speciation starts with isolated populations
The speed of speciation depends on selection pressures

We have not had the isolation of populations in recent times
If Aboriginals were isolated in our harsh unusual condition for long enough....yrs they could have become a different species


However, they were not, now were they?  Yet to listen to hard-core Racists like Soren, they are a separate species, they are not White, the group he has elevated above all others.  Why?  'cause he is White and he believes that Whites should rule over all other groups.  Indeed, if we are to listen to Soren and his cronies, Africans, Asians, Indians, Indigenous Australians, Polynesians, Native Americans are all inferior to White people.   Yet if you read Jared Diamond's works, that "inferiority" is caused by circumstance, a lack of resources not because of innate stupidity or inability to complete tasks.  Racism is based upon the idea of biological determinism - the colour of a persons skin/the shape of their noses/lips/eyes/etc. determines their ability to control their destiny.  ::)


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 15th, 2019 at 5:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:34pm:

miketrees wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
Just my observation

Speciation starts with isolated populations
The speed of speciation depends on selection pressures

We have not had the isolation of populations in recent times
If Aboriginals were isolated in our harsh unusual condition for long enough....yrs they could have become a different species


However, they were not, now were they?  Yet to listen to hard-core Racists like Soren, they are a separate species, they are not



Lying, right there, stupid old numpty. You are lying and you know it.  Dishonest little Turd.

Liar. Evidence.






Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 15th, 2019 at 10:03pm

Frank wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:47pm:
I have explained to you numerous times my argument, Soren.  If your head is too deeply submerged in your arse to understand it, that is no fault of mine.  Genetics proves who we are and who we are is Homo Sapien Sapiens - the human race.  There is only one species, all the "races" are mere superficial evolutionary adaptations to local environmental conditions.  Racism relies on those superficial evolutionary adaptations and attempts to use them to classify people into different groups and a hierarchy of "races" which do not exist.  You harp on about those groups as if they actually mean something other than what you have conferred to them, Soren. Your ignorance and your foolishness shines forth in every post you make.  ::) ::)

Your argument is self-contradictory and ultimately empty and meanigless. It is nothing but a misunderstanding and a confusion of, among many other stupidities, race and species. As if anyone other than you have used these categories interchangably.

Everyone recognises that there are different races, including you.  The whole SBS Insight program was about that.  None of it ever meant that they are all different species.


I have explained to you numerous times my argument, Soren.  If your head is too deeply submerged in your arse to understand it, that is no fault of mine.  If anybody is confused, it is Racists like yourself, Soren.  ::) ::)



Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 15th, 2019 at 10:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 15th, 2019 at 10:03pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:47pm:
I have explained to you numerous times my argument, Soren.  If your head is too deeply submerged in your arse to understand it, that is no fault of mine.  Genetics proves who we are and who we are is Homo Sapien Sapiens - the human race.  There is only one species, all the "races" are mere superficial evolutionary adaptations to local environmental conditions.  Racism relies on those superficial evolutionary adaptations and attempts to use them to classify people into different groups and a hierarchy of "races" which do not exist.  You harp on about those groups as if they actually mean something other than what you have conferred to them, Soren. Your ignorance and your foolishness shines forth in every post you make.  ::) ::)

Your argument is self-contradictory and ultimately empty and meanigless. It is nothing but a misunderstanding and a confusion of, among many other stupidities, race and species. As if anyone other than you have used these categories interchangably.

Everyone recognises that there are different races, including you.  The whole SBS Insight program was about that.  None of it ever meant that they are all different species.


I have explained to you numerous times my argument, Soren.  If your head is too deeply submerged in your arse to understand it, that is no fault of mine.  If anybody is confused, it is Racists like yourself, Soren.  ::) ::)


I see... If people can't understand what you are saying, it's their fault, not yours. You on the other hand have no fault. Way to build yourself to be the most intelligent person in your own mind. You know, even if you abolish the word race and replace it with ancestry, we will be in the same place because what people call race is ancestry. Just because something is a social construct does not mean it does not exist, in fact it becoming a social construct creates it's existence. Does money exist or us it just a social construct for the exchange of goods and services?




Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 16th, 2019 at 11:38am

Setanta wrote on Nov 15th, 2019 at 10:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 15th, 2019 at 10:03pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 8:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 7:47pm:
I have explained to you numerous times my argument, Soren.  If your head is too deeply submerged in your arse to understand it, that is no fault of mine.  Genetics proves who we are and who we are is Homo Sapien Sapiens - the human race.  There is only one species, all the "races" are mere superficial evolutionary adaptations to local environmental conditions.  Racism relies on those superficial evolutionary adaptations and attempts to use them to classify people into different groups and a hierarchy of "races" which do not exist.  You harp on about those groups as if they actually mean something other than what you have conferred to them, Soren. Your ignorance and your foolishness shines forth in every post you make.  ::) ::)

Your argument is self-contradictory and ultimately empty and meanigless. It is nothing but a misunderstanding and a confusion of, among many other stupidities, race and species. As if anyone other than you have used these categories interchangably.

Everyone recognises that there are different races, including you.  The whole SBS Insight program was about that.  None of it ever meant that they are all different species.


I have explained to you numerous times my argument, Soren.  If your head is too deeply submerged in your arse to understand it, that is no fault of mine.  If anybody is confused, it is Racists like yourself, Soren.  ::) ::)


I see... If people can't understand what you are saying, it's their fault, not yours. You on the other hand have no fault. Way to build yourself to be the most intelligent person in your own mind. You know, even if you abolish the word race and replace it with ancestry, we will be in the same place because what people call race is ancestry. Just because something is a social construct does not mean it does not exist, in fact it becoming a social construct creates it's existence. Does money exist or us it just a social construct for the exchange of goods and services?


Yet another person who has failed to understand what I have been saying.  ::)

I have not abolished anything.  I have merely pointed out the errors in the concept of "race" as used by Racists.  Genetics has destroyed that.  There is effectively no difference, Genetically, between the so-called "races" as defined by the Racists.   "Race" as a concept used by Racists is a social construct, relying upon superficial evolutionary adaptations to suit local environmental conditions to differentiate between people.   White people evolved white skin because they needed to absorb more Vitamin D than than did Black people who lived closer to the equator.  Asian people evolved epicanthic folds because they needed to survived the glare and dust of the central Asian plains and so on and so on.  "Race" is used by Racists to justify their domination over people who do not fit their definition of perfection.  Racists have invented a hierarchy of "races" that does not exist.  There is only one "race" - the human one, which we are all members of.    ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2019 at 3:51pm
Bwian, you insist on narrowing it down to one aspect of racial differences, genetics, as if there was nothing else to human differences but genetics.

But of course nobody, not even you, operate along genetic lines but along SOCIAL and PERSONAl and CULTURAL lines. At those levels, race is very significant to everyone and no genetics will ever override the social and personal and cultural for anyone.

From that Insight program:

Jennifer Lundquist is a US-based sociologist who has studied racial preferences in online dating. The study found that race plays a big part in people's decisions about who they choose to contact and respond to online. It found that heterosexual men of all races respond to all women except for African-American, and that women of all races respond first to Caucasian men.

Ida Harding
Ida Harding migrated to Australia from Ghana at the age of four. Despite growing up and going to school with mostly white people, Ida has never dated someone from a different racial background. "I think my preference is for black men and that's simply because I don't want to be someone's fantasy or fetish," she says. "You want someone who dates you because they like who you are."

John and Edelisa Carroll
John and Edelisa met on a dating site called FilipinoCupid. After three months of chatting online, John proposed to Edelisa – before they'd met in person. John specifically sought out an Asian woman for a partner because "Asian women treat western men better than a white woman might". Edelisa thought a western man would be "better than a Filipino husband" because they're more responsible and provide better for their children.

Rudo Banya
Rudo Banya says she's never been attracted to black men. She's only ever dated white men. She thinks it's partly because her aunties used to tell her how "rubbish" black men were and told her to "make better choices". Rudo says it is not racist to be attracted to one race over another, it's just a preference.


Han and Sophie Song
When Han Song first met Sophie in a pub, he thought she was gorgeous ... but he didn't think he stood a chance. "I thought oh well, I'm Asian, probably she's not interested." He was wrong. Despite big language barriers, the two hit it off. Han had only dated Korean women in the past and thought dating a white woman was "a fantasy". Sophie found Asian men attractive but says it was shared values that was most important.

Professor Bill Von Hippel
Bill Von Hippel is an evolutionary psychologist. He says "multi-ethnic coupling" will become increasingly more common as time goes by – it's an inevitable consequence of the proximity of so many races in the same place. He also says there are evolutionary reasons why people of mixed-race would be seen as the most attractive.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1


Not a single word about genetics anywhere in these blurbs OR in the program itself. Not a single word.  It is solely your obsession to cover up your militant insistence on being arrow-minded and obstinate. You insist on ignoring how people ACTUALLY interact.  For you, everyone ELSE is driving on the wrong side of the road.  That's what 'Bwianesque' actually means.  ;)i

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by rhino on Nov 16th, 2019 at 5:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:14pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:22pm:
well that shut Brian up.


Has it?  Can't read your article 'cause it insists that I turn off my ad blocker - something I refuse to do.

Until you post the full article I suspect I'll never read it, Rhino.  ::)
Lol. You know the article demolishes your claims because you insist that being able to interbreed defines race, it doesn't and it destroys your whole argument. You know that and that's why you ran away when I posted it. You have read it Brian , cut the cr@p. 

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2019 at 5:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2019 at 2:14pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 10:22pm:
well that shut Brian up.


Has it?  Can't read your article 'cause it insists that I turn off my ad blocker - something I refuse to do.

Until you post the full article I suspect I'll never read it, Rhino.  ::)

Here it is, Bwian.
A Long-Busted Myth: It's Not True That Animals Belonging To Different Species Can Never Interbreed

Michael Marshall Contributor   Science  I write about evolutionary biology, earth science and the environment

On 22 August, an astonishing discovery was reported. A sliver of bone from a cave in Russia turned out to belong to a hominin, one that was utterly unprecedented. Denny, as she is known to the scientists who are studying her, was a first-generation hybrid. Her mother was a Neanderthal and her father a Denisovan. She was a child of two species. The findings were reported in Nature.
I covered this discovery, as did many others, and within hours the question arrived: "I thought the definition of a species was that they couldn't interbreed?"
Many people seem to believe that animals belonging to different species cannot breed together, and that this is what defines a species. I suspect many of us acquire the idea in childhood when we learn about mules. The offspring of a horse and a donkey, a mule is a useful working animal but is entirely sterile and incapable of breeding. We all seem to generalise from this and assume that no interspecies pairings can produce fertile offspring.
This is not just a piece of folk science. The biologist Ernst Mayr proposed in 1942 that a species is a population of organisms that can all interbreed with each other, and which either cannot or do not interbreed with anything else. This idea became known as the Biological Species Concept, and evidently many of us learn it as fact.
The thing is, Mayr's idea is not accepted as the be-all-and-end-all by other biologists. Instead, the problem of how to define a species is still being argued about today, 76 years after Mayr published his definition.
Let's come back to mules. They are not a terribly good example of what happens when two species interbreed. Horses have 64 chromosomes and donkeys 62, so when the two breed their mule offspring ends up with 63. Because this is an odd number, it's impossible for them to divide evenly into two. That means the mule cannot produce sperm and egg cells that carry exactly half the animal's chromosomes, as should happen. When these defective sex cells are fused with those of another mule, the resulting embryo is likely to have crucial chunks of its DNA missing, and will not be viable.
However, many distinct species have the same numbers of chromosomes. For instance, all great apes (apart from humans) have a total of 48 chromosomes, arranged in 24 pairs. All else being equal, that means it ought to be easier for them to interbreed than it is for horses and donkeys.
So it has proved. Chimpanzees and bonobos have interbred several times since their populations split a few million years ago, and the bonobo genome also carries DNA that seems to have come from a third, unidentified species. Other ape pairings don't seem to have happened, but that might be partly because they live in separate habitats and don't meet: orangutans are confined to Borneo and Sumatra, and are unlikely to encounter gorillas and chimpanzees from Africa. But the idea captivates people: there are long-standing (unsubstantiated) rumours of a chimpanzee-gorilla hybrid called the koolakamba or kooloo-kamba.
Similarly, human evolution was rife with interspecies sex. Modern humans have interbred with both Neanderthals and Denisovans, Neanderthals and Denisovans interbred, and Denisovans interbred with an unidentified hominin. There is reason to suspect that the first-generation hybrids had some health issues, such as reduced fertility, but they were evidently able to get by well enough to leave descendants. Today many people carry some Neanderthal and/or Denisovan DNA.
This illustrates the problem with Mayr's species concept: where do you draw the line? If two animals can produce offspring, but that offspring's fertility is reduced by 10 per cent, are the parents members of different species? What about a 20 per cent drop in fertility - or a 10 per cent drop in fertility combined with a 20 per cent reduction in average lifespan? We could insist that the offspring be 100 per cent infertile, but that would mean collapsing a lot of species that we currently think of as distinct, beginning with chimpanzees and bonobos. Insisting that no offspring are produced at all would destroy even more distinctions.
Species are often separated, not by reproductive anatomy or courtship habit, but by geography - and those separations are reversible. In the lakes of the European Alps, pollution has caused oxygen levels to crash in the deeper waters, forcing the species that once lived there to move closer to the surface. There they have begun hybridising with longstanding surface-dwellers. These species had been separated for millions of years, but they weren't distinct enough to be unable to breed.
In fact it has been estimated that 88 per cent of all fish species could hybridise with at least one other, given the opportunity. The same may be true of 55 per cent of all mammals.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2019 at 5:21pm
This hybridisation has a mixed environmental legacy. On the one hand, extinct species are not quite gone, because their DNA lives on. This is true of Neanderthals, and on Monday it emerged that it is also true of cave bears, whose DNA lives on in brown bears whose ancestors mated with the cave bears. Many of us would see that preservation as being somehow good.

But on the flip side hybridisation can also destroy species if two distinct groups breed so much that they blur together. This is what has happened to many of the fish in the Alpine lakes, and it may be the fate of polar bears if they are driven south by melting ice and begin interbreeding with other bears in a big way.

The lesson is that we should not become too wedded to concepts that we ourselves created. The idea of a "species" is a human construct, and while it's useful it doesn't map neatly onto nature. In this respect it is like the concept of "life", which most of us intuitively understand but would struggle to define. Or consider this philosophical passage from science fiction writer H. G. Wells:

"Take the word chair. When one says chair, one thinks vaguely of an average chair. But collect individual instances, think of armchairs and reading chairs, and dining-room chairs and kitchen chairs, chairs that pass into benches, chairs that cross the boundary and become settees, dentists’ chairs, thrones, opera stalls, seats of all sorts, those miraculous fungoid growths that cumber the floor of the Arts and Crafts Exhibition, and you will perceive what a lax bundle in fact is this simple straightforward term. In co-operation with an intelligent joiner I would undertake to defeat any definition of chair or chairishness that you gave me."

Other human concepts can be more tightly defined and delineated, but they're normally found in physics, not biology. There is no blurry dividing line between an up quark and a down quark, but there really is a halfway house between a horse and a donkey.

Finally, here is a truly exasperating fact. Once in a blue moon, mules do reproduce.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelmarshalleurope/2018/08/28/a-long-busted-myth-its-not-true-that-animals-belonging-to-different-species-can-never-interbreed/#15b367313e65

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 16th, 2019 at 7:03pm
Another site that insists I turn my ad blocker off, Soren.  Tsk, tsk.  Not going to happen.

As for different species being unable to interbreed, well I don't think I have claimed that.  Are you suggesting that the different "races" are actually differing species, Soren?  Really?  What about you, Rhino?

All the "races" of humanity are all members of the one "race", the human one, Homo Sapien Sapiens.  There are significant differences between individuals but nothing that prevents them from interbreeding.   Racists believe that the different "races" are significant because one individual has a darker skin than another or an epicanthic fold or thicker lips or kinky hair, etc.  In reality, as I keep pointing out, these are just local evolutionary adaptations, nothing more.  Below the skin level/eyes/lips/etc. we are all members of the one species and no matter how much you seek to deny that, Soren all you are doing is spouting Racist nonsense.


Quote:
Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another.[1][2][3] It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity.[1][2] Modern variants of racism are often based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. These views can take the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems in which different races are ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities.[1][2][4]

In terms of political systems (e.g., apartheid) that support the expression of prejudice or aversion in discriminatory practices or laws, racist ideology may include associated social aspects such as nativism, xenophobia, otherness, segregation, hierarchical ranking, and supremacism.

While the concepts of race and ethnicity are considered to be separate in contemporary social science, the two terms have a long history of equivalence in both popular usage and older social science literature. "Ethnicity" is often used in a sense close to one traditionally attributed to "race": the division of human groups based on qualities assumed to be essential or innate to the group (e.g. shared ancestry or shared behavior). Therefore, racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to a United Nations convention on racial discrimination, there is no distinction between the terms "racial" and "ethnic" discrimination. The UN convention further concludes that superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous. It also declared that there is no justification for racial discrimination, anywhere, in theory or in practice.[5]

Historically, racism was a major driving force behind the Atlantic slave trade.[6] It was also a major force behind racial segregation especially in the United States in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries and South Africa under apartheid; 19th and 20th century racism in Western culture is particularly well documented and constitutes a reference point in studies and discourses about racism.[7] Racism has played a role in genocides such as the Holocaust, and the Armenian genocide, and colonial projects like the European colonization of the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Indigenous peoples have been –and are– often subject to racist attitudes.

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism]Source[/url]

Attitudes which you, Soren are only too willing to display.  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by rhino on Nov 16th, 2019 at 7:32pm
you have stated many times Brian that the proof of us all being one race is the ability to interbreed. as you now know and didn't know before that it means nothing , in fact different species can interbreed.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2019 at 7:37pm
Species is not race or breed.  You have different breeds and races within many species - men, dogs, cats, pigs, chickens, dogs, not to mention plant species and so on.

Species is not race or breed.  DON'T confuse them, bwian.  Don't insist on being an uncomprehending knob. We know you like to but you have come to the end of that particular idiotic mania regarding races (one thing) and species (another thing). Stop conflating two different things, neither of which you understand.








Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 7:03pm:
Another site that insists I turn my ad blocker off, Soren.  Tsk, tsk.  Not going to happen.

As for different species being unable to interbreed, well I don't think I have claimed that.  Are you suggesting that the different "races" are actually differing species, Soren?  Really?  What about you, Rhino?

All the "races" of humanity are all members of the one "race", the human one, Homo Sapien Sapiens. 

Homo sapiens is a species, Bwian, not a race.  Stop being an idiot.

You won't, of course. There would be nothing left of you if you did. Carry on being Bwianesque, Bwian. That's what you have been put on this earth for, after all, to be a hideous lesson to the rest of us.





Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:10pm

Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 7:03pm:
Another site that insists I turn my ad blocker off, Soren.  Tsk, tsk.  Not going to happen.

As for different species being unable to interbreed, well I don't think I have claimed that.  Are you suggesting that the different "races" are actually differing species, Soren?  Really?  What about you, Rhino?

All the "races" of humanity are all members of the one "race", the human one, Homo Sapien Sapiens. 

Homo sapiens is a species, Bwian, not a race.  Stop being an idiot.

You won't, of course. There would be nothing left of you if you did. Carry on being Bwianesque, Bwian. That's what you have been put on this earth for, after all, to be a hideous lesson to the rest of us.




It appears once more my words have fallen on deaf ears, Soren.  Run along, go and play in the little kiddies' playground where you belong.  You are a fool and it shows.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:10pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 7:03pm:
Another site that insists I turn my ad blocker off, Soren.  Tsk, tsk.  Not going to happen.

As for different species being unable to interbreed, well I don't think I have claimed that.  Are you suggesting that the different "races" are actually differing species, Soren?  Really?  What about you, Rhino?

All the "races" of humanity are all members of the one "race", the human one, Homo Sapien Sapiens. 

Homo sapiens is a species, Bwian, not a race.  Stop being an idiot.

You won't, of course. There would be nothing left of you if you did. Carry on being Bwianesque, Bwian. That's what you have been put on this earth for, after all, to be a hideous lesson to the rest of us.




It appears once more my words have fallen on deaf ears, Soren.  Run along, go and play in the little kiddies' playground where you belong.  You are a fool and it shows.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

;D ;D ;D

Thick as treacle in mince in cement = Bwian.

You have been discredited once again and now you are doing the gweggy slippin' and slidin' yeah but no but routine.

You are a liar and an idiot: you lie when you are caught out being an idiot and act like an idiot when you are put on the spot for lying.



Now please F orf.








Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:43pm


;D

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:46pm

rhino wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 7:32pm:
you have stated many times Brian that the proof of us all being one race is the ability to interbreed. as you now know and didn't know before that it means nothing , in fact different species can interbreed.


The evidence for that is very slight.  You have no idea how closely related the Denisovans and Humanity were, Rhino.  You have no idea how difficult it was for them to interbreed. I have no idea.  I am quite willing to admit my ignorance on that issue, are you?

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by rhino on Nov 16th, 2019 at 9:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:46pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 7:32pm:
you have stated many times Brian that the proof of us all being one race is the ability to interbreed. as you now know and didn't know before that it means nothing , in fact different species can interbreed.


The evidence for that is very slight.  You have no idea how closely related the Denisovans and Humanity were, Rhino.  You have no idea how difficult it was for them to interbreed. I have no idea.  I am quite willing to admit my ignorance on that issue, are you?
Glad you mentioned the Denisovians who interbred with other species including Aboriginals.

Quote:
The Denisovans or Denisova hominins ( /dɪˈniːsəvə/ di-NEE-sə-və) are an extinct species or subspecies of archaic humans in the genus Homo without an agreed taxonomic name. Pending consensus on its taxonomic status, it has been referred to as Homo denisova, Homo altaiensis, or Homo sapiens denisova.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisovan

Quote:
I am quite willing to admit my ignorance on that issue, are you?
as i have repeatedly shown, Im not ignorant on the matter Brian , you are. Why are you trying to pretend I am as ignorant as you when I am actually schooling you on the subject?

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 16th, 2019 at 10:15pm
As Wikipedia admits, they don't know if they are a separate species of sub-species.  I suspect they were a sub-species, Rhino.  Until we know more, I remain sceptical of these claims.  As I have not claimed that it is impossible for species/sub-species to interbreed - just difficult, I think you're erecting a strawman argument.  ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".



Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:43pm:


;D

Religious beliefs have nuffin' to do wiv race, Bwian. Posting this meme just how stupid and confused you are.




Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".



It's Bwian's and kermits way of avoiding their stupidity - narrow things WAY down to a definition ONLY they hold - that will guarantee that everyone else will always be wrong according to those idiotic definition. They now what they are doing, that's why they are doing it.

Stupid AND dishonest.


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:12pm

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:43pm:


;D

Religious beliefs have nuffin' to do wiv race, Bwian. Posting this meme just how stupid and confused you are.




Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".



It's Bwian's and kermits way of avoiding their stupidity - narrow things WAY down to a definition ONLY they hold - that will guarantee that everyone else will always be wrong according to those idiotic definition. They now what they are doing, that's why they are doing it.

Stupid AND dishonest.


I actually left a couple of things out of that list I should have put in. Are some dogs more vicious and prone to attack? Are some dogs more placid and better companions? Are there dogs you trust with your family and dogs you do not?


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:16pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".


You still misunderstand what I have said, Setanta.  You are showing how little you understand what I have said.  I suggest you leave it there 'cause you're not going to grasp what I have been saying, now are you?  ::) ::)



Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:18pm

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2019 at 8:43pm:


;D

Religious beliefs have nuffin' to do wiv race, Bwian. Posting this meme just how stupid and confused you are.


*WHOOSH*!  Straight over your head, Soren.  How unsurprising.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".


You still misunderstand what I have said, Setanta.  You are showing how little you understand what I have said.  I suggest you leave it there 'cause you're not going to grasp what I have been saying, now are you?  ::) ::)


It's hard to comprehend the shyte you talk Brian. That is not our fault, it is the fault of the one(you) putting your argument forward. It all comes down to skin colour with you. There is so much more that genetics gives, when you add culture to that...

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:29pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".


You still misunderstand what I have said, Setanta.  You are showing how little you understand what I have said.  I suggest you leave it there 'cause you're not going to grasp what I have been saying, now are you?  ::) ::)


It's hard to comprehend the shyte you talk Brian. That is not our fault, it is the fault of the one(you) putting your argument forward. It all comes down to skin colour with you. There is so much more that genetics gives, when you add culture to that...


As I have pointed out, you need to direct your comments to say, Soren, who is a Racist - an admitted Racist - who believe skin colour matters.   As I have kept pointing out, Set and which you appear to refuse to accept, skin colour is meaningless to me.   ::)


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:29pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".


You still misunderstand what I have said, Setanta.  You are showing how little you understand what I have said.  I suggest you leave it there 'cause you're not going to grasp what I have been saying, now are you?  ::) ::)


It's hard to comprehend the shyte you talk Brian. That is not our fault, it is the fault of the one(you) putting your argument forward. It all comes down to skin colour with you. There is so much more that genetics gives, when you add culture to that...


As I have pointed out, you need to direct your comments to say, Soren, who is a Racist - an admitted Racist - who believe skin colour matters.   As I have kept pointing out, Set and which you appear to refuse to accept, skin colour is meaningless to me.   ::)


Yet you bring it up when talking to me because that is what you base "racism" on. I'm sure you would love the views of Kristian Kristiansen even though his genocidal Yamnaya culture went from horse riding steppe warriors to space in 5000 years. Even though as a northern European his DNA is likely to be 100% Yamnaya.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 7th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
We are Genetically identical, we all share the same Genetic pool.  "White" merely identifies a group with paler skin compared to all other Humans, Rhino.   There is only one race, the human one.   ::)


Dogs share the same gene pool and therefore you would say Genetically identical, Brian. Care to explain the differences?

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:57pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 7th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
We are Genetically identical, we all share the same Genetic pool.  "White" merely identifies a group with paler skin compared to all other Humans, Rhino.   There is only one race, the human one.   ::)


Dogs share the same gene pool and therefore you would say Genetically identical, Brian. Care to explain the differences?



Humans and breeding for specific attributes, Setanta.   Humanity as a species gave up on Eugenics after WWII.   Humans don't like being forced to breed with people they don't like/love.  Dogs don't get a choice.   ::)

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:59pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:29pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".


You still misunderstand what I have said, Setanta.  You are showing how little you understand what I have said.  I suggest you leave it there 'cause you're not going to grasp what I have been saying, now are you?  ::) ::)


It's hard to comprehend the shyte you talk Brian. That is not our fault, it is the fault of the one(you) putting your argument forward. It all comes down to skin colour with you. There is so much more that genetics gives, when you add culture to that...


As I have pointed out, you need to direct your comments to say, Soren, who is a Racist - an admitted Racist - who believe skin colour matters.   As I have kept pointing out, Set and which you appear to refuse to accept, skin colour is meaningless to me.   ::)


Yet you bring it up when talking to me because that is what you base "racism" on.


No, it is what Racists base a great deal of their beliefs on, Setanta.  ::)



Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:57pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 7th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
We are Genetically identical, we all share the same Genetic pool.  "White" merely identifies a group with paler skin compared to all other Humans, Rhino.   There is only one race, the human one.   ::)


Dogs share the same gene pool and therefore you would say Genetically identical, Brian. Care to explain the differences?



Humans and breeding for specific attributes, Setanta.   Humanity as a species gave up on Eugenics after WWII.   Humans don't like being forced to breed with people they don't like/love.  Dogs don't get a choice.   ::)


Irrelevant. The environment does it. For dogs, humans are a part of that environment. Humans accept what is their lot. They'll walk into a gas chamber, to the edge of a mass grave and be shot. You would not exist if not for rape and violence. It may be unpleasant but that is the truth, you have at least one rapist in your family tree, probably thousands. The article you posted about Brits at one time being black as if to show that the white guys were descended from them is false, they were wiped from existence. These may be unpleasant facts but facts they are.

The Yamnaya have been called the most genocidal and violent people the planet has endured by those that are too butt hurt to accept how things go in history, coincidentally Yamnaya themselves, self hatred. But they are the ones that were so successful and innovative that they opened space to their descendants. Spread bronze, the wheel, horse warfare, iron to the world. They deserved and took their place on this planet. Was that genetic? Should we blame their white skin? Or is that coincidental?


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:47pm
What "white skin"?  Yamnaya are described as being darker than Europeans, Setanta.  ::)

Your Yamnaya appear to have been no more violent than any other neolithic group.  Life was nasty, brutish and all too often short in those days.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:47pm:
What "white skin"?  Yamnaya are described as being darker than Europeans, Setanta.  ::)

Your Yamnaya appear to have been no more violent than any other neolithic group.  Life was nasty, brutish and all too often short in those days.


You are going to provide links, yeah? They were not neolithic, bronze, the horse and wheel gave them the advantage. They used that to spread their progeny from Ireland to western China.




Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 18th, 2019 at 2:25pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:47pm:
What "white skin"?  Yamnaya are described as being darker than Europeans, Setanta.  ::)

Your Yamnaya appear to have been no more violent than any other neolithic group.  Life was nasty, brutish and all too often short in those days.


You are going to provide links, yeah? They were not neolithic, bronze, the horse and wheel gave them the advantage. They used that to spread their progeny from Ireland to western China.


Why should I bother to provide links, Setanta?  You don't.  ::)

What they used is immaterial as far as I am concerned.  They spread, that is all that matters.  Nowadays, they'd have world opinion, the UN and more than likely (although I wonder) Washington threatening them if they tried it.  ::)


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 18th, 2019 at 6:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".


You still misunderstand what I have said, Setanta.  You are showing how little you understand what I have said.  I suggest you leave it there 'cause you're not going to grasp what I have been saying, now are you?  ::) ::)



The chaos in your head cannot possible be made clear, especially not by a confused clown like you.


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2019 at 6:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".


You still misunderstand what I have said, Setanta.  You are showing how little you understand what I have said.  I suggest you leave it there 'cause you're not going to grasp what I have been saying, now are you?  ::) ::)



You make no sense, Bwian. Think about that. You insist on a peripheral isssue being the central point in our lives and interactions.


Dingo, African wild dog, coyote, wolf, domestic dogs in all their great variety - they can all interbreed AND WE ALL recognise them as being different even though they are all Canis.


Especially the wild variants in that list - dingo, African wild dog, coyote, jackals - indicate how obviously we can tell the difference between various breeds (races) be they animal or human species.


You would be rightly called ingnorant, blind and stupid if you insisted that there is no difference between a dingo, and African wild dog, a coyote and a jackal. And so people are calling you ignorant blind and stupid for insisting that there is no difference between an African, an Australian Aborigine, a red indian, a Chinaman and a Finn.


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 20th, 2019 at 4:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 2:25pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:47pm:
What "white skin"?  Yamnaya are described as being darker than Europeans, Setanta.  ::)

Your Yamnaya appear to have been no more violent than any other neolithic group.  Life was nasty, brutish and all too often short in those days.


You are going to provide links, yeah? They were not neolithic, bronze, the horse and wheel gave them the advantage. They used that to spread their progeny from Ireland to western China.


Why should I bother to provide links, Setanta?  You don't.  ::)

What they used is immaterial as far as I am concerned.  They spread, that is all that matters.  Nowadays, they'd have world opinion, the UN and more than likely (although I wonder) Washington threatening them if they tried it.  ::)


Are you sure about that? Perhaps you are thinking of yourself? Links I provided in another thread directly relate to this if you had have read them.

Good thing it wasn't "Nowadays" then, well not really, there would have been no US or UN without them, we'd probably still live in city states and the tech you are using would not exist. Now half the world speaks a language descended from theirs and their descendants pretty much dominate the world and the space around it.

You yourself posted an article about the dark skinned hunter/gatherers of England(Cheddah man) which were the same the continent over. Hunter/Gatherer DNA is almost non-existent in the UK today, gone. Then came farmers from Anatolia who were lighter than the H/Gatherers, yet you think the Yamnaya were dark skinned yet theirs is the predominant DNA in Europe, near 100% in northern Europeans.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 20th, 2019 at 8:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2019 at 7:51pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".


You still misunderstand what I have said, Setanta.  You are showing how little you understand what I have said.  I suggest you leave it there 'cause you're not going to grasp what I have been saying, now are you?  ::) ::)


You make no sense, Bwian. Think about that. You insist on a peripheral isssue being the central point in our lives and interactions.

Dingo, African wild dog, coyote, wolf, domestic dogs in all their great variety - they can all interbreed AND WE ALL recognise them as being different even though they are all Canis.

Especially the wild variants in that list - dingo, African wild dog, coyote, jackals - indicate how obviously we can tell the difference between various breeds (races) be they animal or human species.

You would be rightly called ingnorant, blind and stupid if you insisted that there is no difference between a dingo, and African wild dog, a coyote and a jackal. And so people are calling you ignorant blind and stupid for insisting that there is no difference between an African, an Australian Aborigine, a red indian, a Chinaman and a Finn.




You, as usual, fail to understand, just as Setanta has, what I am saying.  He has an excuse, you don't, except you refuse to see Racism demolished, hey, Soren?  ::)


I'd be interested in what excuses you are making for me.

Everything I have said is backed up by Archaeology and DNA, you know that genetics you keep talking about? I'm not fibbing. You don't have to like it but it would be silly to ignore it.

You want to QED with your China hypothesis but won't correlate that with what is known. You just stick by a stupid stance of "before the 15th century China was more advanced". Ignoring societies learn from each other, advance, retract, bloom, dark age, thrive, wither.

That statement about China alone shows you are racist. They were always ahead of everyone, never needed anyone, never learned a thing from anyone else but were always he most advanced... Are you a Chink?


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 20th, 2019 at 8:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2019 at 7:51pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".


You still misunderstand what I have said, Setanta.  You are showing how little you understand what I have said.  I suggest you leave it there 'cause you're not going to grasp what I have been saying, now are you?  ::) ::)


You make no sense, Bwian. Think about that. You insist on a peripheral isssue being the central point in our lives and interactions.

Dingo, African wild dog, coyote, wolf, domestic dogs in all their great variety - they can all interbreed AND WE ALL recognise them as being different even though they are all Canis.

Especially the wild variants in that list - dingo, African wild dog, coyote, jackals - indicate how obviously we can tell the difference between various breeds (races) be they animal or human species.

You would be rightly called ingnorant, blind and stupid if you insisted that there is no difference between a dingo, and African wild dog, a coyote and a jackal. And so people are calling you ignorant blind and stupid for insisting that there is no difference between an African, an Australian Aborigine, a red indian, a Chinaman and a Finn.




You, as usual, fail to understand, just as Setanta has, what I am saying.  He has an excuse, you don't, except you refuse to see Racism demolished, hey, Soren?  ::)

Your argument is fkkd, Bwian,  shot to pieces, you are shown to be a clown and incoherent idiot with no idea, only mindless bluster.  You are trying to divert to some obscure angle but your idiocy is there to see for all.

Yawn and muddy kiddie gifs will follow from you by way of your idea of a counter no-arguments, reinforcing just what an intellectually and morally bankrupt dense concrete knob you are, ONCE AGAIN.

Reinvent yourself, Aunty Bwian. The old mad Major Bwian McFvketty-Liar aunt (post op) persona, with the mustache and fake doctorate and pseudo military interests is not getting the hearing you are hoping for. Being a Bwian McFvketty-Liar (nee Ross) is where I would advise an early review.

After all, wHO is called a fkkn BWIAN ??   You, being a liar by nature, are not am actual Bwian. But CALLING yourself one is a dead giveaway of your deep rooted dishonesty. No one who is not a Bwian would CHOOSE to be called a Bwian. 
And if you are a Bwian - well you are well and truly fkd, aren't you? Still, lucky you are not a Jayden. Think positive, Bwian - it could be worse.i



Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 21st, 2019 at 1:34pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 20th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2019 at 7:51pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Brian, are some dogs smarter than others? Some with better sense of smell? Some faster? Some stronger? Some that don't handle a lot of sunlight well? Some that handle cold water better? Some better at retrieving? Some better at herding? Some better as guards? Some with different skin colours? Yet they are all dogs of the same species. You are like someone that only looks at their skin colour and puts them as all equal in everything except skin colour. You deny any difference but skin colour. You like K are fixated on "tint".


You still misunderstand what I have said, Setanta.  You are showing how little you understand what I have said.  I suggest you leave it there 'cause you're not going to grasp what I have been saying, now are you?  ::) ::)


You make no sense, Bwian. Think about that. You insist on a peripheral isssue being the central point in our lives and interactions.

Dingo, African wild dog, coyote, wolf, domestic dogs in all their great variety - they can all interbreed AND WE ALL recognise them as being different even though they are all Canis.

Especially the wild variants in that list - dingo, African wild dog, coyote, jackals - indicate how obviously we can tell the difference between various breeds (races) be they animal or human species.

You would be rightly called ingnorant, blind and stupid if you insisted that there is no difference between a dingo, and African wild dog, a coyote and a jackal. And so people are calling you ignorant blind and stupid for insisting that there is no difference between an African, an Australian Aborigine, a red indian, a Chinaman and a Finn.




You, as usual, fail to understand, just as Setanta has, what I am saying.  He has an excuse, you don't, except you refuse to see Racism demolished, hey, Soren?  ::)


I'd be interested in what excuses you are making for me.

Everything I have said is backed up by Archaeology and DNA, you know that genetics you keep talking about? I'm not fibbing. You don't have to like it but it would be silly to ignore it.

You want to QED with your China hypothesis but won't correlate that with what is known. You just stick by a stupid stance of "before the 15th century China was more advanced". Ignoring societies learn from each other, advance, retract, bloom, dark age, thrive, wither.

That statement about China alone shows you are racist. They were always ahead of everyone, never needed anyone, never learned a thing from anyone else but were always he most advanced... Are you a Chink?


*SIGH* why does it always come down to a personality thing, Set?  Doesn't matter who or what I am, I have yet to see a good argument against my comments WRT to the idea that "race" is a "social construct".

Instead, I am endlessly being attacked, personally, childishly.  Soren in particular is guilty of this.  His attacks belong in the little kiddies' playground, which is where I direct him to.   However, he appears to have gotten lost and cannot find his way.

Now, my comments about China - in a completely different thread - were based on what several  China scholars have said in various books about technology in China.  China did, according to them lead the world, technologically, until about the 15th century.  After that, Europe surpassed them.   China developed gun powder, it's battlefield uses and exported that knowledge to Europe along the silk road.  China developed moveable type printing presses and exported that along the silk road.  China developed many things and exported those ideas along the silk road to Europe, only to see Europeans claim them as their own inventions.   If you wish to dispute that point, I suggest you take it up with the Chinese scholars.

Your ideas are interesting.  However, until you produce a proper, peer reviewed paper on the topic, I will just keep your views in the "interesting" box for the moment, Set.   ::)


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 21st, 2019 at 2:15pm
We have the inalienable right to choose who we wish for a partner and to live among the "race" we choose. I chose Anglo Aussie as the "race" I wish to live with because it's my preference, it's in my blood, we speak the same intuitive language and share the same culture

I left the big city to live among my fellow Aussies' out here in the bush, but if there were any African darkies here, they would be invading our homes, trashing, slashing and stealing our phones and computers

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 21st, 2019 at 4:01pm
There is also a clear link between criminality and race:

When it comes to disciplinary biases, however, none is so strong or as corrupting as liberal views on race. Disproportionate black involvement in violent crime represents the elephant in the room amid the current controversy over policing in the United States. Homicide numbers from the Federal Bureau of Investigation Supplementary Homicide Reports, 1976–2005 indicate that young African-American males account for homicide victims at levels that are ten to 20 times greater than their proportion of the population and account for homicide offenders at levels that are 15 to 35 times greater than their proportion of the population. The black-white gap in armed-robbery offending has historically ranged between ten to one and 15 to one. Even in forms of crime that are allegedly the province of white males—such as serial murder—blacks are overrepresented as offenders by a factor of two. For all racial groups, violent crime is strongly intraracial, and the intraracial dynamic is most pronounced among blacks. In more than 90 percent of cases, the killer of a black victim is a black perpetrator.

Criminologists talk about the race-crime connection behind closed doors, and often in highly guarded language; the topic is a lightning rod for accusations of racial hostility that can be professionally damaging. They avoid discussing even explicitly racist examples of black-on-white crime such as flash-mob assaults, “polar bear hunting,” and the “knockout game.” What criminologists won’t say in public is that black offending differences have existed since data have been collected and that these differences are behind the racial disparities in arrest, prosecution, and incarceration. They also won’t tell you that, despite claims of widespread racial discrimination in the justice system, legal variables—namely, the number of prior arrests and the seriousness of the crime for which the offender has currently been arrested—account for all but a small fraction of the variance in system outcomes. Nor will they tell you the truth about politically correct remedies, such as diversifying police forces, hiring black police chiefs, or training officers in the alleged effects of implicit bias: that these measures won’t reduce racial disparities in crime.
https://www.city-journal.org/html/what-criminologists-dont-say-and-why-15328.html

Aboriginal or Arab criminality would be similarly out of all proportion. It's the culture that individuals in various races choose to identify with.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 21st, 2019 at 6:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 1:34pm:
*SIGH* why does it always come down to a personality thing, Set?  Doesn't matter who or what I am, I have yet to see a good argument against my comments WRT to the idea that "race" is a "social construct".

Instead, I am endlessly being attacked, personally, childishly.  Soren in particular is guilty of this.  His attacks belong in the little kiddies' playground, which is where I direct him to.   However, he appears to have gotten lost and cannot find his way.

Now, my comments about China - in a completely different thread - were based on what several  China scholars have said in various books about technology in China.  China did, according to them lead the world, technologically, until about the 15th century.  After that, Europe surpassed them.   China developed gun powder, it's battlefield uses and exported that knowledge to Europe along the silk road.  China developed moveable type printing presses and exported that along the silk road.  China developed many things and exported those ideas along the silk road to Europe, only to see Europeans claim them as their own inventions.   If you wish to dispute that point, I suggest you take it up with the Chinese scholars.

Your ideas are interesting.  However, until you produce a proper, peer reviewed paper on the topic, I will just keep your views in the "interesting" box for the moment, Set.   ::)


Were these scholars Chinese? China has always thought it developed independent of anyone else. Hell, they even thought they evolved differently from the rest of humanity. You say before the 15th century again, does that mean from the beginning of time or is there a start and end point? Where would they have been without input from the west, the wheel, bronze, iron, the horse? While the west had it's ups and downs, light and dark ages, China did have continuity. Imagine the west with the same continuity?

Archaeology and DNA is changing much of what was thought to be "known" not long ago.

"The Assumed Isolation of China and Autochthony of her Culture" on Jstor is worth a read. https://www.jstor.org/stable/2086117?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents

Preserved with the mummies, clues to an ancient mystery

Quote:
If she is right, the "barbarians" on China's western front may prove to be trading partners who made the country's civilisation possible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJZ38PtW3SI
You should be able to find the next parts 2-5 yourself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4IJlvy6734

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 21st, 2019 at 8:09pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 6:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 1:34pm:
*SIGH* why does it always come down to a personality thing, Set?  Doesn't matter who or what I am, I have yet to see a good argument against my comments WRT to the idea that "race" is a "social construct".

Instead, I am endlessly being attacked, personally, childishly.  Soren in particular is guilty of this.  His attacks belong in the little kiddies' playground, which is where I direct him to.   However, he appears to have gotten lost and cannot find his way.

Now, my comments about China - in a completely different thread - were based on what several  China scholars have said in various books about technology in China.  China did, according to them lead the world, technologically, until about the 15th century.  After that, Europe surpassed them.   China developed gun powder, it's battlefield uses and exported that knowledge to Europe along the silk road.  China developed moveable type printing presses and exported that along the silk road.  China developed many things and exported those ideas along the silk road to Europe, only to see Europeans claim them as their own inventions.   If you wish to dispute that point, I suggest you take it up with the Chinese scholars.

Your ideas are interesting.  However, until you produce a proper, peer reviewed paper on the topic, I will just keep your views in the "interesting" box for the moment, Set.   ::)


Were these scholars Chinese? China has always thought it developed independent of anyone else. Hell, they even thought they evolved differently from the rest of humanity.


No, they were American and British scholars.  Joseph Needham in particular wrote a multi-volume research work on Chinese technology which still stands today as one of the best (and is endorsed by the Chinese themselves AIUI).  Not all Chinese scholars are subject to what the Communist Party tells them to say, either.


Quote:
You say before the 15th century again, does that mean from the beginning of time or is there a start and end point? Where would they have been without input from the west, the wheel, bronze, iron, the horse? While the west had it's ups and downs, light and dark ages, China did have continuity. Imagine the west with the same continuity?


If Europe had been subject to the problems that China faced over the centuries, it would be both better equipped and willing to show it's technology and in many ways worse off, Set.  China was beset by numerous invasions from Western European, Asian and Eastern European forces.  It had rebellions, revolution and famine and mayhem.   Europe also had many of those things but it was never addicted to Opium the way China was.


Quote:
Archaeology and DNA is changing much of what was thought to be "known" not long ago.

"The Assumed Isolation of China and Autochthony of her Culture" on Jstor is worth a read. https://www.jstor.org/stable/2086117?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents

Preserved with the mummies, clues to an ancient mystery
[quote]If she is right, the "barbarians" on China's western front may prove to be trading partners who made the country's civilisation possible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJZ38PtW3SI
You should be able to find the next parts 2-5 yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4IJlvy6734[/quote]

I will read them, Set when I get a chance.   DNA has changed a great deal of the understanding about species and humanity in particular.  As I keep pointing out, the concept of "race" that Racists use is a social construct.  It focuses on minor physical differences which are simple evolutionary adaptations to environmental conditions.  They (note, not I) focus on skin colour, eye shape, nose shape, etc, with out appreciating that they indicate absolutely nothing about the Genetic makeup of the individual or their supposed "race".  They use it to justify their oppression of people.  It is foolish and pointless.  ::)


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 21st, 2019 at 8:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 8:09pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 6:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 1:34pm:
*SIGH* why does it always come down to a personality thing, Set?  Doesn't matter who or what I am, I have yet to see a good argument against my comments WRT to the idea that "race" is a "social construct".

Instead, I am endlessly being attacked, personally, childishly.  Soren in particular is guilty of this.  His attacks belong in the little kiddies' playground, which is where I direct him to.   However, he appears to have gotten lost and cannot find his way.

Now, my comments about China - in a completely different thread - were based on what several  China scholars have said in various books about technology in China.  China did, according to them lead the world, technologically, until about the 15th century.  After that, Europe surpassed them.   China developed gun powder, it's battlefield uses and exported that knowledge to Europe along the silk road.  China developed moveable type printing presses and exported that along the silk road.  China developed many things and exported those ideas along the silk road to Europe, only to see Europeans claim them as their own inventions.   If you wish to dispute that point, I suggest you take it up with the Chinese scholars.

Your ideas are interesting.  However, until you produce a proper, peer reviewed paper on the topic, I will just keep your views in the "interesting" box for the moment, Set.   ::)


Were these scholars Chinese? China has always thought it developed independent of anyone else. Hell, they even thought they evolved differently from the rest of humanity.


No, they were American and British scholars.  Joseph Needham in particular wrote a multi-volume research work on Chinese technology which still stands today as one of the best (and is endorsed by the Chinese themselves AIUI).  Not all Chinese scholars are subject to what the Communist Party tells them to say, either.


Quote:
You say before the 15th century again, does that mean from the beginning of time or is there a start and end point? Where would they have been without input from the west, the wheel, bronze, iron, the horse? While the west had it's ups and downs, light and dark ages, China did have continuity. Imagine the west with the same continuity?


If Europe had been subject to the problems that China faced over the centuries, it would be both better equipped and willing to show it's technology and in many ways worse off, Set.  China was beset by numerous invasions from Western European, Asian and Eastern European forces.  It had rebellions, revolution and famine and mayhem.   Europe also had many of those things but it was never addicted to Opium the way China was.

[quote]
Archaeology and DNA is changing much of what was thought to be "known" not long ago.

"The Assumed Isolation of China and Autochthony of her Culture" on Jstor is worth a read. https://www.jstor.org/stable/2086117?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents

Preserved with the mummies, clues to an ancient mystery
[quote]If she is right, the "barbarians" on China's western front may prove to be trading partners who made the country's civilisation possible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJZ38PtW3SI
You should be able to find the next parts 2-5 yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4IJlvy6734[/quote]

I will read them, Set when I get a chance.   DNA has changed a great deal of the understanding about species and humanity in particular.  As I keep pointing out, the concept of "race" that Racists use is a social construct.  It focuses on minor physical differences which are simple evolutionary adaptations to environmental conditions.  They (note, not I) focus on skin colour, eye shape, nose shape, etc, with out appreciating that they indicate absolutely nothing about the Genetic makeup of the individual or their supposed "race".  They use it to justify their oppression of people.  It is foolish and pointless.  ::)

[/quote]

The west and the east has been connected since the wheel was invented and long distance travel made possible. The wheel's invention is now most likely to be a Eurasian steppe invention, Poland, not the ME which would make more sense. The west brought bronze, iron, the wheel, the chariot and the war horse to China and everything they made from those. China was not isolated. The story of the Altai is Indo European. The more you look the more you will see it. What was an advantage to China was it's remoteness from the west, it allowed a sense of isolation without being isolated.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 22nd, 2019 at 4:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 8:09pm:
 DNA has changed a great deal of the understanding about species and humanity in particular.  As I keep pointing out, the concept of "race" that Racists use is a social construct. 



Today's word is 'African American teaching assistant'.


UNC teaching assistant & antifa activist, Maya Little, was arrested this past weekend & charged w/inciting a riot & felony malicious conduct. She’s been arrested numerous times, including for larceny. At a protest last year, she mixed her bodily fluid w/paint to throw on property

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1196281630396055552




Race? Culture?

Both.


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 22nd, 2019 at 7:59pm

Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2019 at 4:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 8:09pm:
 DNA has changed a great deal of the understanding about species and humanity in particular.  As I keep pointing out, the concept of "race" that Racists use is a social construct. 



Today's word is 'African American teaching assistant'.


UNC teaching assistant & antifa activist, Maya Little, was arrested this past weekend & charged w/inciting a riot & felony malicious conduct. She’s been arrested numerous times, including for larceny. At a protest last year, she mixed her bodily fluid w/paint to throw on property

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1196281630396055552




Race? Culture?

Both.


Wow, second pic, that must be one of the worst gunts I've ever seen.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 22nd, 2019 at 8:07pm
Teaching assistant.   Education professional for our children and the next generation.


Obese woke fking sjw ijit. But you cant call it coz she'z black. Even though there is no such thing as race, black and the rest.

The inherent stupidity of all this is about to burst. Denying lived reality - identity politics agit-prop - cannot go on.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 22nd, 2019 at 8:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 8:09pm:
I will read them, Set when I get a chance.   DNA has changed a great deal of the understanding about species and humanity in particular.  As I keep pointing out, the concept of "race" that Racists use is a social construct.  It focuses on minor physical differences which are simple evolutionary adaptations to environmental conditions.  They (note, not I) focus on skin colour, eye shape, nose shape, etc, with out appreciating that they indicate absolutely nothing about the Genetic makeup of the individual or their supposed "race".  They use it to justify their oppression of people.  It is foolish and pointless.  ::)


Get back to me, I'm interested in what you make out of it all. You'll have to put your preconceived ideas aside but I'll be interested in the conclusions you come to.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 28th, 2019 at 7:38pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 22nd, 2019 at 8:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 8:09pm:
I will read them, Set when I get a chance.   DNA has changed a great deal of the understanding about species and humanity in particular.  As I keep pointing out, the concept of "race" that Racists use is a social construct.  It focuses on minor physical differences which are simple evolutionary adaptations to environmental conditions.  They (note, not I) focus on skin colour, eye shape, nose shape, etc, with out appreciating that they indicate absolutely nothing about the Genetic makeup of the individual or their supposed "race".  They use it to justify their oppression of people.  It is foolish and pointless.  ::)


Get back to me, I'm interested in what you make out of it all. You'll have to put your preconceived ideas aside but I'll be interested in the conclusions you come to.


Any news Brian?

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Nov 29th, 2019 at 12:42am
Done reading Brian? 5000 years from bronze age steppe warrior to space. 5000 years and half the world's population speak a derivative/descendant of their language and their DNA probably closely follows that. I would class that as success on a massive scale for a people. Only bummer is they were white genocidal maniacs, not a gene pool that brought others with them to the stars, oh, they did.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Dec 6th, 2019 at 7:21pm
Brian?

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Dec 6th, 2019 at 9:12pm
Brian I saw you here a couple of minutes ago, at some point you are going to have to bring yourself back here to complete the journey. You can't ignore it forever.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Dec 7th, 2019 at 6:02pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 6th, 2019 at 9:12pm:
Brian I saw you here a couple of minutes ago, at some point you are going to have to bring yourself back here to complete the journey. You can't ignore it forever.

He is a coward and a liar.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:05pm
Where the West Actually Meets the East—The Tarim Mummies


Quote:
Wheeled carts have also been found in association with the mummies. Most scholars today believe that the wheel was introduced to China from farther west rather than being independently developed there.
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Archaeological and linguistic evidence indicate that, before the rise of the Han Chinese Empire, what is now the Xinjang province was originally settled by Indo-European speaking populations that migrated there from central Asia, including the Tocharians. The Tocharians first entered the region around 2000 BC.
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The most we can say about the mummies is that they were Indo-European and have more in common with central Asian populations than with the populations living in the river valleys of the Yellow and Yangtze rivers that later founded Chinese civilization. It is increasingly common among scholars to question the position that the Chinese civilization was entirely self-contained. Evidence that the wheel was introduced from the west and the presence of these mummies both suggest that China may have learned more from the outside than is often assumed.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:33pm
The Hittites, and Indo-European people, invented iron smelting. This is not working meteoric iron found laying around.


Quote:
The extraction of iron from its ore into a workable metal is much more difficult than for copper or tin. The process appears to have been invented by the Hittites in about 1200 BC, beginning the Iron Age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy



Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by .JaSin. on Dec 12th, 2019 at 7:16pm
With the vast amount of inter-racial breeding couples being Darkie Males and Whitey Females over the reverse is slowly working towards an eventual DNA adaption that makes all Males being born naturally Darker, than the Female.
Throughout History, via a vast majority of peoples - via their Artworks, monuments, potteries and more. The all depicted the Male as being 'darker' than the Female.
Tall Dark and Handsome.
The Black Groom.
Whitey Males and Darkey Females are branching away to a dead end limb on the Ape Tree.
Soon, they will be hunted down like Neanderthals used to be. Called Ogre's and Trolls - living in their Caves as they've did for over 500,000 years.


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Dnarever on Dec 12th, 2019 at 7:56pm

Quote:
Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences


I always picked up my date after the last race.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Dnarever on Dec 12th, 2019 at 7:57pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 12th, 2019 at 7:16pm:
With the vast amount of inter-racial breeding couples being Darkie Males and Whitey Females over the reverse is slowly working towards an eventual DNA adaption that makes all Males being born naturally Darker, than the Female.
Throughout History, via a vast majority of peoples - via their Artworks, monuments, potteries and more. The all depicted the Male as being 'darker' than the Female.
Tall Dark and Handsome.
The Black Groom.
Whitey Males and Darkey Females are branching away to a dead end limb on the Ape Tree.
Soon, they will be hunted down like Neanderthals used to be. Called Ogre's and Trolls - living in their Caves as they've did for over 500,000 years.



Quote:
couples being Darkie Males and Whitey Females


Makeup and powder - been going on for centuries.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by The_Barnacle on Dec 15th, 2019 at 9:42am

Jasin wrote on Dec 12th, 2019 at 7:16pm:
With the vast amount of inter-racial breeding couples being Darkie Males and Whitey Females over the reverse is slowly working towards an eventual DNA adaption that makes all Males being born naturally Darker, than the Female.


As usual you are talking absolute BS jasin

Herbert used to go on about the same thing. I think it was because he was outraged that some white women would prefer black men. He of course blamed the women for this.

He did conveniently ignore the other common interracial couple of the white male and asian female which is far more common in Australia.

So jasin how does the white male and asian female fit into your DNA adaption nonsense

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Dec 20th, 2019 at 8:33pm
Brian?


Quote:
Surprising 5,000-Year-Old Cannabis Trade: Eurasian Steppe Nomads Were Earliest Pot Dealers

The nomad tribe known as the Yamnaya, who were among the founders of the European civilization, may have been the first pot dealers, archaeologists say. Moreover, they were responsible for the first transcontinental trade of cannabis.



Quote:
High Times in Ancient China: 2,700-Year-Old Marijuana Stash Found in Shaman Grave

Plant Placed Next to a Dead Caucasian Shaman
A team of archaeologists, led by Hongen Jiang from the University of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, found nearly two pounds of a dried plant that was still untouched after “hiding” for thousands of years underground. According to a study published in 2008 in the Journal of Experimental Botany , the green plant material found inside a 2,700-year-old grave from the Yanghai Tombs excavated in the Gobi Desert, turned out to be the oldest marijuana in the world. Interestingly, according to the archaeologists, the plant was placed near the head of a blue-eyed, 35-year-old Caucasian shaman among other objects like bridles and a harp to be used in the afterlife.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Dec 23rd, 2019 at 11:54pm
Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 25th, 2020 at 7:11pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 23rd, 2019 at 11:54pm:
Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.


Remind me, Set, what is to finish in this thread?

China was, until approximately 15th century CE technologically superior to the West.   After that date it declined.  This is based upon Needham and others contentions.

It developed a great deal that the West took advantage of - metal working, gun powder, artillery, movable type printing, etc.  The West did this through trade, which in it's later imperial period included the use of Opium.

"Race" is a social construct.   It is based upon superficial external differences which indicate nothing about a person's intelligence, behaviour or anything.  Racists use it to justify their discrimination against individuals on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc.  Most of society rejects this.


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Jan 25th, 2020 at 9:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23rd, 2019 at 11:54pm:
Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.


Remind me, Set, what is to finish in this thread?

China was, until approximately 15th century CE technologically superior to the West.   After that date it declined.  This is based upon Needham and others contentions.

It developed a great deal that the West took advantage of - metal working, gun powder, artillery, movable type printing, etc.  The West did this through trade, which in it's later imperial period included the use of Opium.

"Race" is a social construct.   It is based upon superficial external differences which indicate nothing about a person's intelligence, behaviour or anything.  Racists use it to justify their discrimination against individuals on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc.  Most of society rejects this.

The West didn't  'take advantage' of these thing.
The West knew what to do with them.



Meanwhile, the Chinese are eating bats and baby mice and so starting pandemics -  sorry, ''taking advantage of bats and baby mice' and startiing pandemics.




Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Jan 26th, 2020 at 12:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23rd, 2019 at 11:54pm:
Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.


Remind me, Set, what is to finish in this thread?

China was, until approximately 15th century CE technologically superior to the West.   After that date it declined.  This is based upon Needham and others contentions.

It developed a great deal that the West took advantage of - metal working, gun powder, artillery, movable type printing, etc.  The West did this through trade, which in it's later imperial period included the use of Opium.

"Race" is a social construct.   It is based upon superficial external differences which indicate nothing about a person's intelligence, behaviour or anything.  Racists use it to justify their discrimination against individuals on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc.  Most of society rejects this.


I'll ask again, from when until the 15th century? It's obviously outdated Brian, new evidence shows China was not isolated as once thought. The war horse, the wheel, bronze and iron smelting were all brought from the west.



Quote:
Mummy Discoveries
Some of the first mummies were found near an Uyghur village. They date to between 2000 and 4000 years before the present. The clothing has been well-preserved, and a notable find is that one of the female mummies wears a conical hat which may have been a sign of considerable status. What is most remarkable about these mummies, however, is that they look physically Caucasian. They have elongated bodies, sunken eyes, long noses, and their lightly colored hair is still preserved. These individuals, as a result, stand out from much of the modern population of China.

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Wheeled carts have also been found in association with the mummies. Most scholars today believe that the wheel was introduced to China from farther west rather than being independently developed there. The clothing worn by the mummies is also made with techniques that may have a common origin with the methods involved in the making of European textiles which originated during the Neolithic period.

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Archaeological and linguistic evidence indicate that, before the rise of the Han Chinese Empire, what is now the Xinjang province was originally settled by Indo-European speaking populations that migrated there from central Asia, including the Tocharians. The Tocharians first entered the region around 2000 BC.

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It is increasingly common among scholars to question the position that the Chinese civilization was entirely self-contained. Evidence that the wheel was introduced from the west and the presence of these mummies both suggest that China may have learned more from the outside than is often assumed.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/history/where-west-actually-meets-east-tarim-mummies-009152

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 26th, 2020 at 4:46pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 26th, 2020 at 12:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23rd, 2019 at 11:54pm:
Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.


Remind me, Set, what is to finish in this thread?

China was, until approximately 15th century CE technologically superior to the West.   After that date it declined.  This is based upon Needham and others contentions.

It developed a great deal that the West took advantage of - metal working, gun powder, artillery, movable type printing, etc.  The West did this through trade, which in it's later imperial period included the use of Opium.

"Race" is a social construct.   It is based upon superficial external differences which indicate nothing about a person's intelligence, behaviour or anything.  Racists use it to justify their discrimination against individuals on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc.  Most of society rejects this.


I'll ask again, from when until the 15th century? It's obviously outdated Brian, new evidence shows China was not isolated as once thought. The war horse, the wheel, bronze and iron smelting were all brought from the west.


Problem for you is that Chinese were the first to invent so many things, Set.  No, China wasn't isolated but they were inventive and it shows, from irrigation through to nautical engineering they were the world's leaders for a long, long, time.   There is no start date but there is an end date.




Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 26th, 2020 at 5:50pm
Black Groom.
White Bride.


The White Beta males need to wear Black to feel more cooler & masculine to breed with their own women ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Jan 26th, 2020 at 7:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26th, 2020 at 4:46pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 26th, 2020 at 12:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23rd, 2019 at 11:54pm:
Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.


Remind me, Set, what is to finish in this thread?

China was, until approximately 15th century CE technologically superior to the West.   After that date it declined.  This is based upon Needham and others contentions.

It developed a great deal that the West took advantage of - metal working, gun powder, artillery, movable type printing, etc.  The West did this through trade, which in it's later imperial period included the use of Opium.

"Race" is a social construct.   It is based upon superficial external differences which indicate nothing about a person's intelligence, behaviour or anything.  Racists use it to justify their discrimination against individuals on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc.  Most of society rejects this.


I'll ask again, from when until the 15th century? It's obviously outdated Brian, new evidence shows China was not isolated as once thought. The war horse, the wheel, bronze and iron smelting were all brought from the west.


Problem for you is that Chinese were the first to invent so many things, Set.  No, China wasn't isolated but they were inventive and it shows, from irrigation through to nautical engineering they were the world's leaders for a long, long, time.   There is no start date but there is an end date.


No-one said they weren't inventive but without what the west brought them, where would they be? How can there be no start date?


Quote:
Archaeological investigation has found evidence of irrigation in areas lacking sufficient natural rainfall to support crops for rainfed agriculture. The earliest known use of the technology dates to the 6th millennium BCE in Khuzistan in the south-west of present-day Iran.[4][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrigation

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Jan 26th, 2020 at 10:05pm
What were the Chinese doing in the 5th millennium BC, Brian?

https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/varna-man-and-wealthiest-grave-5th-millennium-bc-002798

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Feb 2nd, 2020 at 8:06pm
Neanderthal Ancestry Detected in Africans For the First Time

Interesting and the African supremacists are in for a shock and can no longer call Europeans "Neanderthals" as a derogatory name. I was reading about the back flow of people with R1a into Africa from Indo-Europeans just the other day and wondered why no Neanderthal DNA went with them. It seems it did.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 2nd, 2020 at 8:32pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 26th, 2020 at 10:05pm:
What were the Chinese doing in the 5th millennium BC, Brian?

https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/varna-man-and-wealthiest-grave-5th-millennium-bc-002798


They were apparently discovering and confirming how to:

Write
Plant and harvest rice.
Building ships
Building villages
store and redistribute crops,
and the potential to support specialist craftsmen and administrators.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Setanta on Feb 2nd, 2020 at 8:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2020 at 8:32pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 26th, 2020 at 10:05pm:
What were the Chinese doing in the 5th millennium BC, Brian?

https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/varna-man-and-wealthiest-grave-5th-millennium-bc-002798


They were apparently discovering and confirming how to:

Write
Plant and harvest rice.
Building ships
Building villages
store and redistribute crops,
and the potential to support specialist craftsmen and administrators.


You mean like the west except for the rice? How was China's metalwork back then? This is why I keep asking you when this Chinese superiority you claim started. You keep falling back on one Sinophilic writer when there has been much more info about east-west contact being uncovered.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Jul 13th, 2020 at 12:16pm

With video:
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-53331401

Omohtee: 'Fat wey don turn to doti dey comot from my bumbum surgery wey I do' - Victim of 'failed bum surgery'
8 July 2020

Producer: Ogechi Obidiebube

My whole bodi cold wen 'Omohtee' raise her blouse to show me all di deep scars wey dey all over her lower waist.

Scars wey she no feel comfortable to show wen di interview proper start.

Omotola Taiwo, wey pipo sabi as 'Omohtee' share details of how di cosmetic surgery wey she do don affect her mentally, physically and financially sotay she bin dey reason to kill hersef.

Di 28-year-old wey dey run Toj Fabrics, open up about di different fluids wey dey comot from her bodi and di pains wey she still dey feel six months afta her surgery.

Omohtee wey bin do 'top up' liposuction and Brazilian Butt Lift surgery as far back as January, 2020 for Lagos, Nigeria don come out now to accuse her surgeon, Dr Anu Adepoju say she do failed surgery for her wey don cause her serious health complications.

Dr Anu wey dey sue Omohtee for N25 million ontop defamation charges, also share her own side of di tori.

She insist say she be qualified Doctor and Cosmetic Surgeon wey don train wit different ogbonge medical institutions and claim say she get over 1,000 successful surgeries to her name.

Dr Anu say dis whole matter don make her lose over N100 million ($25,7731) from her clinic, Med Contour wey goment authorities don lock up.


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:46am
Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/beauty-gold-teeth/619972/

Soon our own tinted demographic will also sport such things.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by NorthOfNorth on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:59am

Frank wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:46am:
Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/beauty-gold-teeth/619972/

Soon our own tinted demographic will also sport such things.

b(l)ack aesthetics? Isn't that how Jews once ported their wealth?

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Sep 28th, 2021 at 11:01am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:59am:

Frank wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:46am:
Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/beauty-gold-teeth/619972/

Soon our own tinted demographic will also sport such things.

b(l)ack aesthetics? Isn't that how Jews once ported their wealth?


Note the word 're-primitivisation'.



Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by NorthOfNorth on Sep 28th, 2021 at 11:08am

Frank wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 11:01am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:59am:

Frank wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:46am:
Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/beauty-gold-teeth/619972/

Soon our own tinted demographic will also sport such things.

b(l)ack aesthetics? Isn't that how Jews once ported their wealth?


Note the word 're-primitivisation'.

Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Valkie on Sep 29th, 2021 at 8:01am
Gee, its gonna be hard to re-primitive abbos, Somalis, muzzos and New Zealanders.

What are they going to regress to ?????   amoeba?

Give me a good old white girl any day.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Sep 29th, 2021 at 11:15am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 11:08am:

Frank wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 11:01am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:59am:

Frank wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:46am:
Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/beauty-gold-teeth/619972/

Soon our own tinted demographic will also sport such things.

b(l)ack aesthetics? Isn't that how Jews once ported their wealth?


Note the word 're-primitivisation'.

Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.



Candide, ou l'Optimisme


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Valkie on Sep 29th, 2021 at 5:13pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 11:08am:

Frank wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 11:01am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:59am:

Frank wrote on Sep 28th, 2021 at 10:46am:
Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/beauty-gold-teeth/619972/

Soon our own tinted demographic will also sport such things.

b(l)ack aesthetics? Isn't that how Jews once ported their wealth?


Note the word 're-primitivisation'.

Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.


Does that mean that we will have to fund abbo scarring as they did in the old days.

Of course, the latest batch of deadbeats are too cowardly to have it done in the traditional way.
They will require the scars to be administered under aesthetic and with adequate public funded medical oversight.

Id love to see all the white abbos go through the scarring ceremony.
In fact, before being able to claim aboriginality, it should be compolsory.


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Oct 7th, 2021 at 10:38am
Afghan dating practices coming to a place near you.
Lock up your lifestock.


https://www.friatider.se/sabrullah-valdtog-en-ko-nu-vantas-han-fa-asyl

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2021 at 10:01am
Ann Darrow and King Kong - the real story.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461311640993939458

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2021 at 10:08am
Ann Darrow and King Kong - the real story.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461311640993939458

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Apr 30th, 2022 at 10:06pm
A Washington, DC, woman, who publicly said that she tossed her tw0-month-old baby in the trash when he wasn’t breathing after she accidentally rolled on top of him in bed, was found dead Wednesday, and the father of her child faces murder charges, reports say.
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2022/04/29/d-c-mother-allegedly-killed-father-baby-she-claimed-toss-trash/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDD8z9Uin98

Systemic racism? Slavery, colonialism?

No.





Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by UnSubRocky on May 1st, 2022 at 10:08am
The Asian girls around my town are usually second-generation Australians at least. Dad has a problem with people of other nationalities of considerably different cultures. But, if someone is sporting an Australian accent (particularly the regional type), it does not matter what their racial background may be.

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on May 27th, 2022 at 2:08pm
The pecking order of victimhood is still under construction.
Muslim trumps LGBTPPPFFTTSSSZZ. (Because you know what happens otherwise, infidel dogs).


A university in Ontario, Canada deleted from a social media page an image of two women dressed in hijabs kissing due to complaints from the local Muslim community.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/canadian-university-pulls-lgbtq-poster-after-muslim-community-complains/







Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by FutureTheLeftWant on May 27th, 2022 at 2:33pm

Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Po-faced old aunty Bwian insists that there are no races because we can interbreed.

Here is an hour long SBS discussion on RACE and dating. If there is no such thing as race, aunty Bwian, what the hell are these white, asian, indian, african people talking about???

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/tvepisode/dating-race_1

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/241154627645/insight-dating-race


My God the right are smacking idiots

Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Frank on Jun 10th, 2022 at 3:09pm
Viewer discretion is strongly advised.

Tight dress, big breasts.


https://mobile.twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1533908645288636416


Title: Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences
Post by Xavier on Jun 10th, 2022 at 9:39pm
I like Black, Yellow, Green, Blue, Brown, Red, White, Grey Australians.
I just dislike the foreign ones. ;) :D

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