It's a shocking fact -

science and maths doesn't pay in a supposed industrial country like ours.

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/australias-useless-university-degrees-the-ones-to-avoid-if-you-want-to-get-get-a-job-c-524282


Fields with the best performing degrees include:

    medicine
    teaching
    engineering
    nursing

Fields with the worst performing degrees include:

    creative arts
    communications
    science and maths
    social services

Absolute nonsense.......science degree are the best degrees......whether they are is Australia is another question......

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 2:09pm:

Absolute nonsense.......science degree are the best degrees......whether they are is Australia is another question......

There are hardly any jobs in Australia for someone with a BSc.
and if there are any, they pay crap, peanut money.

USA might be the Doctor.
But Australia is the Surgeon.

Wanna be smart about it?
Then F'off to the USA.

Wanna be clever about it?
The just get richer than those Uni'type lefties.
TAFE does wonders along with Industries that took the education of 'the Clever' onto themselves.

Jasin wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 5:53pm:

USA might be the Doctor. But Australia is the Surgeon. Wanna be smart about it? Then F'off to the USA. Wanna be clever about it? The just get richer than those Uni'type lefties. TAFE does wonders along with Industries that took the education of 'the Clever' onto themselves.

The USA?
What's the point of anyone being trained here if they have to go to the USA to
get a job and then take all their skills with them?

There should be technical jobs in Australia
not just coffee shops.

The only high end jobs in oz these days are for lawyers, real estate sharks and drug dealers, most medical engineering teaching technical professionals are chinks and they are flooding the world market, 6yrs of extra schooling after high school and rich forever.
Manufacturing is finished.
Farming and mining is done by machinery, limited jobs, the servos, security industry, takeaways, taxi, bus driving, cleaning and other likewise industries have been overtaken by the refugees and the Muslims.

This pretty much only leaves drug dealing.

Johnnie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 6:58pm:

The only high end jobs in oz these days are for lawyers, real estate sharks and drug dealers, most medical professionals are chinks. Manufacturing is finished. Farming and mining is done by machinery, limited jobs, the servos, security industry, takeaways, taxi, bus driving, cleaning and other likewise industries have been overtaken by the refugees and the Muslims. This pretty much only leaves drug dealing.

What job can you get with a BSc.?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 7:00pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 6:58pm: The only high end jobs in oz these days are for lawyers, real estate sharks and drug dealers, most medical professionals are chinks. Manufacturing is finished. Farming and mining is done by machinery, limited jobs, the servos, security industry, takeaways, taxi, bus driving, cleaning and other likewise industries have been overtaken by the refugees and the Muslims. This pretty much only leaves drug dealing. What job can you get with a BSc.?

Research is an option for the ones who struggle to find a real job, many do.

Johnnie wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 7:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 7:00pm: Johnnie wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 6:58pm: The only high end jobs in oz these days are for lawyers, real estate sharks and drug dealers, most medical professionals are chinks. Manufacturing is finished. Farming and mining is done by machinery, limited jobs, the servos, security industry, takeaways, taxi, bus driving, cleaning and other likewise industries have been overtaken by the refugees and the Muslims. This pretty much only leaves drug dealing. What job can you get with a BSc.? Research is an option for the ones who struggle to find a real job, many do.

With most science jobs you need a PhD
before you can even knock on the door and
then they still want to pay you peanuts.

You can always be a professional student doing useless degree after useless degree all funded by the taxpayer.

Many Greenies do this.

A BSc is a bit too general and just doing a PhD doesn't always help because if the PhD is in an obscure subject like Global Warming then few employers would want to have anything to do with you.

Finance is a good field to get into but you must have a natural talent for figures to be any good at this.

Research can be good but you must be very bright and academically brilliant and be lucky enough to choose a topic which has commercial potential.

juliar wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 7:42am:

You can always be a professional student doing useless degree after useless degree all funded by the taxpayer. Many Greenies do this. A BSc is a bit too general and just doing s PhD doesn't always help because if the PhD is in an obscure subject like Global Warming then few employers would want to have anything to do with you. Finance is a good field to get into but you must have a natural talent for figures to be any good at this. Research can be good but you must be very bright and academically brilliant and be lucky enough to choose a topic which has commercial potential.

It looks like the main paying jobs are in teaching.
However you need a diploma in teaching as well in Australia plus experience to get a job.
A friend of mine has both but doesn't have enough experience as a teacher to get a job in it.

What about an arts "Degree" and be a Greeny Rent A Crowder and glue yourself to DoomsDay roads ?

The other thing is the Greeny polluted schools don't teach maths and science anymore but specialize in Global Warming and Climate Change and indoctrinating our little kiddies with Greeny propaganda and ruining their lives by wasting their time at school so they can't cope in the human race after school and become unemployable except as Greeny Rent A Crowders.

What about a Law Degree and get a job with the union ?

juliar wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 10:22am:

What about an arts "Degree" and be a Greeny Rent A Crowder and glue yourself to DoomsDay roads ? The other thing is the Greeny polluted schools don't teach maths and science anymore but specialize in Global Warming and Climate Change and indoctrinating our little kiddies with Greeny propaganda and ruining their lives by wasting their time at school so they can't cope in the human race after school and become unemployable except as Greeny Rent A Crowders. What about a Law Degree and get a job with the union ?

what about jobs building electric cars and charging infrastructure ?

Oh no ! You can't have those job opportunities in Australia you degenerate piece of sh.t :(

f.cking delusional bible bashing piece of sh.t running australia keeping his real estate agent mates in a job whilst turning his back on the rest of us who have to scratch around in the the dirt for the non existent jobs :(

What a joke the brain dead fool scunge talking about education!!!!! Would not know what day it is.

She is probably working out what Doomsday road she will glue herself to next.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2019 at 9:50pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 7:05pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 7:00pm: Johnnie wrote on Nov 2nd, 2019 at 6:58pm: The only high end jobs in oz these days are for lawyers, real estate sharks and drug dealers, most medical professionals are chinks. Manufacturing is finished. Farming and mining is done by machinery, limited jobs, the servos, security industry, takeaways, taxi, bus driving, cleaning and other likewise industries have been overtaken by the refugees and the Muslims. This pretty much only leaves drug dealing. What job can you get with a BSc.? Research is an option for the ones who struggle to find a real job, many do. With most science jobs you need a PhD before you can even knock on the door and then they still want to pay you peanuts.

They could do work experience and build from there.

But it is hard to even get work experience unless you are a member of an accredited group.

juliar wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 8:18pm:

But it is hard to even get work experience unless you are a member of an accredited group.

They could do what the B.A. graduates do to get a job, bend over.

Always do a job, career, vocation and even hobby - that you love doing.

Jasin wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

Always do a job, career, vocation and even hobby - that you love doing.

That's a good philosophy but in reality most people go to work to make a living, no choice.

Johnnie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 4th, 2019 at 8:57pm: Always do a job, career, vocation and even hobby - that you love doing. That's a good philosophy but in reality most people go to work to make a living, no choice.

Don't be most people.

It is a lot easier to do what the Greenies and their Rent A Crowds do - just go onto NewStart.

juliar wrote on Nov 5^th, 2019 at 8:47am:

It is a lot easier to do what the Greenies and their Rent A Crowds do - just go onto NewStart.

My guess is that only 1 in 5 people who apply for Newstart get it.
We actually have 3 million unemployed people in Australia.

The true figures are never published by
either the Labor or Liberal Govts.

juliar wrote on Nov 5^th, 2019 at 8:47am:

It is a lot easier to do what the Greenies and their Rent A Crowds do - just go onto NewStart.

The way you retards want to destroy innovative businesses like Tesla, Australia deserves to have twice as many people on Newstart :( You've created no new jobs except to keep realestate scum in a job so they can go around and rip people off on property deals with the blessings of the 4 crooked banks behind them of course.

Can you believe that 5 of the 20 top companies in Australia are banks. What else do we do in this country apart from propping up Shylocks ?

Useless lot of idiots here :(

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 5^th, 2019 at 12:46pm:

juliar wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:47am: It is a lot easier to do what the Greenies and their Rent A Crowds do - just go onto NewStart. The way you retards want to destroy innovative businesses like Tesla, Australia deserves to have twice as many people on Newstart :( You've created no new jobs except to keep realestate scum in a job so they can go around and rip people off on property deals with the blessings of the 4 crooked banks behind them of course. Can you believe that 5 of the 20 top companies in Australia are banks. What else do we do in this country apart from propping up Shylocks ? Useless lot of idiots here :(

Yes. Where I am. The town has lost 22 shops to close. 3 Landlords share ownership of them all and don't care if they don't fill em. Tax write off.
The Rents for these shops do not justify the fact that a lot of business's make their money through 'online' - not just through the shop door. For a Crystal Shop. Only 20% of earnings come through the door (tourists inc), the rest is made online. The Shop is just a 'window front' now, nothing more. Yet Shop Rents are way too high.
Take in effect that Businesses 'outside' of Town congestions do remarkably well. A Business run on a Farm does very well as everyone knows there will be plenty of direct parking. Side Businesses set up there too, but they never get bigger than 5 minutes walking distance.

It's obvious that Village size or even smaller groups of Businesses away from Town or City congestions - do extremely well $$$. People will come for Quality over Quantity in Australia.

Tesla has shown that electric toy cars are an unsafe dangerous waste of time. And the hypocrite creeps that drive these dangerous heaps are supporting child labour in the cobalt mines. SHAME!!!!

The BIG BOY Hydrogen is just around the corner ready to replace petrol and diesel in all vehicles large and small.

The Japanese coal to hydrogen test plant in Victoria is about to start exporting hydrogen to Japan.

juliar wrote on Nov 5^th, 2019 at 3:58pm:

Tesla has shown that electric toy cars are an unsafe dangerous waste of time. And the hypocrite creeps that drive these dangerous heaps are supporting child labour in the cobalt mines. SHAME!!!! The BIG BOY Hydrogen is just around the corner ready to replace petrol and diesel in all vehicles large and small. The Japanese coal to hydrogen test plant in Victoria is about to start exporting hydrogen to Japan.

China is moving full steam ahead with electric car production whilst you delusional LNP f.ckwitts in Australia choose to ignore the future in terms of renewables and battery electric vehicles and are willing to compromise future job prospects just because of your greedy appetite to rip people off on their energy needs with your polluting and environmental destroying fossil fools which should be left in the ground :(

Good luck with a future that only offers employment to real estate scumbags, baristas and gophers digging polluting sh.t out of the ground that you are too lazy to process or add any value too. Lets see how you maintain your standard of living doing this ? :D LOL

The boring bovver girl the sick in the head greeny Scunge is so out of place in an education topic.

juliar wrote on Nov 6^th, 2019 at 5:59pm:

The boring bovver girl the sick in the head greeny Scunge is so out of place in an education topic.

Nail is right - we need to use the people we have who understand maths and science
to value add to our raw materials.
We are only good at digging stuff out of the ground and selling it at
the lowest price and then
we let other countries make most of the money out of it.

Bobby you are dreaming again.

Commercial reality is the key to any success.

If the product is not commercially competitive then it won't happen.

So just using current qualified talent won't achieve very much as they are up against the permanent problem affecting all products made in Australia - union thugs and too high wages making the product too expensive compared to the same product made overseas.

Also our small population means there is only a small market in Australia and so export is essential.

The only products that are successfully made here are high tech stuff like airplane parts which can't be easily copied by China.

The other killer in Australia is electricity and gas prices.

New amazing products result from research such as being done by the CSIRO but they go nowhere if they are too costly to produce.

Any products requiring casting of steel are severely up against it due to production costs.

And the new elephant in the room is the potential for power blackouts as the renewable rubbish frequently fails due to low sun or low wind. For an aluminium smelter a power blackout is a disaster as the aluminium freezes in the pots and takes ages to clear out.

The farcical touting of new jobs making renewable rubbish is nonsense as China already has the market for this stuff and manufacturing costs here are far too high to compete with China.

One area where Australia can and will shine is Hydrogen production as Japan already has their coal to hydrogen production facility working in Victoria.

The hydrogen energy market will be gigantic as countries look for an alternative to polluting diesel in cities.

Of course everyone knows that all electric is no solution to anything as the gigantic batteries required for large trucks and industrial equipment are far too dangerous and take too long to recharge. Electric is only almost suitable for small cars with limited range and short trips. Electric bikes and scooters work OK. You see them on the footpaths.

Hydrogen on the other hand can easily power large trucks and buses and trains and industrial equipment and is quick to refuel. Already countries all over the world are swinging over to hydrogen. And they will require Australia to generate and export hydrogen!!!! We will be swimming in export earned dollars!!!!

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2019 at 6:54pm:

juliar wrote on Nov 6th, 2019 at 5:59pm: The boring bovver girl the sick in the head greeny Scunge is so out of place in an education topic. Nail is right - we need to use the people we have who understand maths and science to value add to our raw materials. We are only good at digging stuff out of the ground and selling it at the lowest price and then we let other countries make most of the money out of it.

We sell our unprocessed sh.t to china for next to nothing and then china sells us back an electric car at a 100,000% premium and socko still wants to posts pictures of car accidents. That says more about us as a nation than anything :D LOL

The uneducated ignoramus the Greeny Scunge is polluting the Topic about education with her legendary ignorance.

juliar wrote on Nov 8^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

The uneducated ignoramus the Greeny Scunge is polluting the Topic about education with her legendary ignorance.

well you'd know all about the uneducated you climate denial ignoramus :(

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:

juliar wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 1:57pm: The uneducated ignoramus the Greeny Scunge is polluting the Topic about education with her legendary ignorance. well you'd know all about the uneducated you climate denial ignoramus :(

https://media.tenor.com/images/c3319a428ddf5c5a7a1478609bbf1bd9/tenor.gif

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:01pm: juliar wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 1:57pm: The uneducated ignoramus the Greeny Scunge is polluting the Topic about education with her legendary ignorance. well you'd know all about the uneducated you climate denial ignoramus :( https://media.tenor.com/images/c3319a428ddf5c5a7a1478609bbf1bd9/tenor.gif

Some people think that if you become an LNP supporter you automatically get handed a science degree that specializes in climate science which explains why there are so many experts among them :D LOL

The uneducated ignoramus the Greeny Scunge is proud to admit to being an uneducated ignoramus as it gives her an excuse for her legendary ignorance and inability to understand almost anything except a MacDonald's Menu.

Why she embarrasses herself by displaying her legendary ignorance in an education topic must suggest a masochistic streak.

Was she dropped on her head as a child ? Causes this sort of behavior later in life.


The pinnacle of science and maths would have to be NASA where an IQ of less than 150 is regarded as retarded!!!!

I've told this story before.
I know someone with a PhD who wrote a book and it only sold 12 copies.
She is over 60 and lives with her parents.
She could never find a job.

Universities sell dreams to gullible people of high paying jobs.
Only certain degrees pay the big money such as medicine.
A BA or a BSc can make you little more than the minimum wage
if you're lucky enough to find a job.
Centerlink dole lines are full of people with worthless university degrees.

That's because it is the Clever Country here,
not the Smart Country.

Simples.

Jasin wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

That's because it is the Clever Country here, not the Smart Country. Simples.

We don't use the talent we have.
People with degrees are driving Uber taxis.

Jasin wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

That's because it is the Clever Country here, not the Smart Country. Simples.

clever at borrowing money and flipping real estate using more borrowed money :D LOL

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 10^th, 2019 at 11:08pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 10th, 2019 at 5:09pm: That's because it is the Clever Country here, not the Smart Country. Simples. clever at borrowing money and flipping real estate using more borrowed money :D LOL

Clever people in Australia drive Uber taxis.

Oh Well there is always Newstart and some jobs as Greeny Rent A Crowds.