Business proposed bargaining changes would cost workers billions   :(
29 October 2019
ACTU

     Business proposed bargaining changes would cost workers billions

A new report from the Australia Institute’s Centre for Future Work includes modelling which shows that the changes to bargaining rules proposed by business groups would cost workers currently on private sector EBAs $2000 over the first three years and rip billions in wages from the workforce as a whole.

At a time when Australia is in a wages crisis and enterprise bargaining in the private sector is down to just 11 per cent coverage, weakening the rights and protections of working people will make things even worse.

The report highlights that the proposed changes - weakening or removing the Better Off Overall Test, reducing scrutiny of non-union EBAs, narrowing the scope of what can be covered by an agreement, and blocking bargaining on certain projects all together through ‘whole of life’ Greenfields agreements - will mirror the effect of WorkChoices.

The Morrison Government has made it clear that it has a radical agenda to change workplace laws to further entrench the power of corporations over working people. Unlike John Howard’s hated WorkChoices, this time the Morrison Government is drip feeding its plans in an attempt to disguise the extent and impact of the changes.

Quotes attributable to ACTU Secretary Sally McManus:

“Australian workers haven’t had a pay rise in almost seven years. We have a wages crisis and this report shows that the Morrison Government is getting ready to rip billions out of working people’s pockets.

“Slow wage growth has stalled the entire economy. This Government is fixated on trickle-down economics, but that experiment has failed.

“Australians literally can’t afford much more of this Government. By reducing the power of working people and unions and caving to business on changes to the law, the Morrison Government is crushing wage growth.

“The Morrison Government could take a step towards positive wage growth tomorrow by withdrawing its union-bashing bills and supporting union efforts to increase wages across the country.”

Another "Workchoices" policy from these ass holes....Why wasn't this policy highlighted by the Coalition before the last election....The Morrison Government has no mandate for these changes and should take them to the next election where they can be up front with voters and explain their policy!!!

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Ah! but Albo now embraces "wealth creation" and "Flexible Industrial Relations"   :o

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 9:16am:

Ah! but Albo now embraces "wealth creation" and "Flexible Industrial Relations"   :o

So what....Show me where the Coalition said they would change industrial relations policy before the last election and what those changes entail....When Labor proposes a policy we will discuss that but until then your comment is nothing but deflection from the Coalitions lies and deceit!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:16am: Ah! but Albo now embraces "wealth creation" and "Flexible Industrial Relations"   :o So what....Show me where the Coalition said they would change industrial relations policy before the last election and what those changes entail....When Labor proposes a policy we will discuss that but until then your comment is nothing but deflection from the Coalitions lies and deceit!!! ::) ::) ::)

Go for it. Show us all where these policy changes are.

crocodile wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 9:39am:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:22am: Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:16am: Ah! but Albo now embraces "wealth creation" and "Flexible Industrial Relations"   :o So what....Show me where the Coalition said they would change industrial relations policy before the last election and what those changes entail....When Labor proposes a policy we will discuss that but until then your comment is nothing but deflection from the Coalitions lies and deceit!!! ::) ::) ::) Go for it. Show us all where these policy changes are.

Are there any....It is up to the Coalition or it's dickhead supporters to provide evidence of changes they propose....According to the OP these changes have been proposed and the Coalition have not ruled them out....I want to know what is being proposed and if you cannot tell me then sod off you are worthless!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 8:59am:

Another "Workchoices" policy from these ass holes....Why wasn't this policy highlighted by the Coalition before the last election....The Morrison Government has no mandate for these changes and should take them to the next election where they can be up front with voters and explain their policy!!! >:( >:( >:(

I agree, they should take these changes to an election to secure a mandate first, even if they call an early election to do so.

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 9:46am:

crocodile wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:39am: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:22am: Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:16am: Ah! but Albo now embraces "wealth creation" and "Flexible Industrial Relations"   :o So what....Show me where the Coalition said they would change industrial relations policy before the last election and what those changes entail....When Labor proposes a policy we will discuss that but until then your comment is nothing but deflection from the Coalitions lies and deceit!!! ::) ::) ::) Go for it. Show us all where these policy changes are. Are there any....It is up to the Coalition or it's dickhead supporters to provide evidence of changes they propose....According to the OP these changes have been proposed and the Coalition have not ruled them out....I want to know what is being proposed and if you cannot tell me then sod off you are worthless!!! ::) ::) ::)

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changes to bargaining rules proposed by business groups would cost workers currently on private sector EBAs $2000 over the first three years and rip billions in wages from the workforce as a whole.

The gummint hasn't proposed anything. I hear Spec Savers have a two for one deal at the moment.

Bam wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 10:23am:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 8:59am: Another "Workchoices" policy from these ass holes....Why wasn't this policy highlighted by the Coalition before the last election....The Morrison Government has no mandate for these changes and should take them to the next election where they can be up front with voters and explain their policy!!! >:( >:( >:( I agree, they should take these changes to an election to secure a mandate first, even if they call an early election to do so.

What changes have the gummint proposed. Join the queue at Spec Savers for you too.

crocodile wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 11:20am:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:46am: crocodile wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:39am: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:22am: Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:16am: Ah! but Albo now embraces "wealth creation" and "Flexible Industrial Relations"   :o So what....Show me where the Coalition said they would change industrial relations policy before the last election and what those changes entail....When Labor proposes a policy we will discuss that but until then your comment is nothing but deflection from the Coalitions lies and deceit!!! ::) ::) ::) Go for it. Show us all where these policy changes are. Are there any....It is up to the Coalition or it's dickhead supporters to provide evidence of changes they propose....According to the OP these changes have been proposed and the Coalition have not ruled them out....I want to know what is being proposed and if you cannot tell me then sod off you are worthless!!! ::) ::) ::) Quote: changes to bargaining rules proposed by business groups would cost workers currently on private sector EBAs $2000 over the first three years and rip billions in wages from the workforce as a whole. The gummint hasn't proposed anything. I hear Spec Savers have a two for one deal at the moment.

Which is why I asked are there any changes....Spec savers will not improve your comprehension will it!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 1:27pm:

crocodile wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 11:20am: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:46am: crocodile wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:39am: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:22am: Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:16am: Ah! but Albo now embraces "wealth creation" and "Flexible Industrial Relations"   :o So what....Show me where the Coalition said they would change industrial relations policy before the last election and what those changes entail....When Labor proposes a policy we will discuss that but until then your comment is nothing but deflection from the Coalitions lies and deceit!!! ::) ::) ::) Go for it. Show us all where these policy changes are. Are there any....It is up to the Coalition or it's dickhead supporters to provide evidence of changes they propose....According to the OP these changes have been proposed and the Coalition have not ruled them out....I want to know what is being proposed and if you cannot tell me then sod off you are worthless!!! ::) ::) ::) Quote: changes to bargaining rules proposed by business groups would cost workers currently on private sector EBAs $2000 over the first three years and rip billions in wages from the workforce as a whole. The gummint hasn't proposed anything. I hear Spec Savers have a two for one deal at the moment. Which is why I asked are there any changes....Spec savers will not improve your comprehension will it!!! ::) ::) ::)

Nothing wrong with my comprehension. Your words:


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Another "Workchoices" policy from these ass holes....Why wasn't this policy highlighted by the Coalition before the last election....The Morrison Government has no mandate for these changes and should take them to the next election where they can be up front with voters and explain their policy!!!

The Morrison government has made no such policies. There's nothing that needs an explanation. Make that four pairs of specs.

crocodile wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 2:05pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 1:27pm: crocodile wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 11:20am: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:46am: crocodile wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:39am: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:22am: Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:16am: Ah! but Albo now embraces "wealth creation" and "Flexible Industrial Relations"   :o So what....Show me where the Coalition said they would change industrial relations policy before the last election and what those changes entail....When Labor proposes a policy we will discuss that but until then your comment is nothing but deflection from the Coalitions lies and deceit!!! ::) ::) ::) Go for it. Show us all where these policy changes are. Are there any....It is up to the Coalition or it's dickhead supporters to provide evidence of changes they propose....According to the OP these changes have been proposed and the Coalition have not ruled them out....I want to know what is being proposed and if you cannot tell me then sod off you are worthless!!! ::) ::) ::) Quote: changes to bargaining rules proposed by business groups would cost workers currently on private sector EBAs $2000 over the first three years and rip billions in wages from the workforce as a whole. The gummint hasn't proposed anything. I hear Spec Savers have a two for one deal at the moment. Which is why I asked are there any changes....Spec savers will not improve your comprehension will it!!! ::) ::) ::) Nothing wrong with my comprehension. Your words: [quote]Another "Workchoices" policy from these ass holes....Why wasn't this policy highlighted by the Coalition before the last election....The Morrison Government has no mandate for these changes and should take them to the next election where they can be up front with voters and explain their policy!!!

The Morrison government has made no such policies. There's nothing that needs an explanation. Make that four pairs of specs.

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The Morrison Government has made it clear that it has a radical agenda to change workplace laws to further entrench the power of corporations over working people. Unlike John Howard’s hated WorkChoices, this time the Morrison Government is drip feeding its plans in an attempt to disguise the extent and impact of the changes.

Now if there are any changes I expect you will condemn them as I have....Otherwise there is nothing to worry about and the Australia Institute’s Centre for Future Work is doing this for nothing???

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philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 3:09pm:

crocodile wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 2:05pm: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 1:27pm: crocodile wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 11:20am: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:46am: crocodile wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:39am: philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:22am: Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 9:16am: Ah! but Albo now embraces "wealth creation" and "Flexible Industrial Relations"   :o So what....Show me where the Coalition said they would change industrial relations policy before the last election and what those changes entail....When Labor proposes a policy we will discuss that but until then your comment is nothing but deflection from the Coalitions lies and deceit!!! ::) ::) ::) Go for it. Show us all where these policy changes are. Are there any....It is up to the Coalition or it's dickhead supporters to provide evidence of changes they propose....According to the OP these changes have been proposed and the Coalition have not ruled them out....I want to know what is being proposed and if you cannot tell me then sod off you are worthless!!! ::) ::) ::) Quote: changes to bargaining rules proposed by business groups would cost workers currently on private sector EBAs $2000 over the first three years and rip billions in wages from the workforce as a whole. The gummint hasn't proposed anything. I hear Spec Savers have a two for one deal at the moment. Which is why I asked are there any changes....Spec savers will not improve your comprehension will it!!! ::) ::) ::) Nothing wrong with my comprehension. Your words: [quote]Another "Workchoices" policy from these ass holes....Why wasn't this policy highlighted by the Coalition before the last election....The Morrison Government has no mandate for these changes and should take them to the next election where they can be up front with voters and explain their policy!!! The Morrison government has made no such policies. There's nothing that needs an explanation. Make that four pairs of specs.

This....


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The Morrison Government has made it clear that it has a radical agenda to change workplace laws to further entrench the power of corporations over working people. Unlike John Howard’s hated WorkChoices, this time the Morrison Government is drip feeding its plans in an attempt to disguise the extent and impact of the changes.

Now if there are any changes I expect you will condemn them as I have....Otherwise there is nothing to worry about and the Australia Institute’s Centre for Future Work is doing this for nothing???

:-? :-? :-?
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The Morrison Government has made it clear that it has a radical agenda to change workplace laws to further entrench the power of corporations over working people.

Where has it been made clear. It's just horseshit made up by the dropkick that wrote the article. The only one that needs to justify anything is the person who wrote it.


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Now if there are any changes I expect you will condemn them as I have....Otherwise there is nothing to worry about and the Australia Institute’s Centre for Future Work is doing this for nothing???

I'll condemn them if I don't agree with them but since none have been made there is nothing to condemn except the stupidity of the author. The Institute for Future Work is modelling suggestions from business groups and not some stratified policy agenda from the government for certain parts of the population.

Bam wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 10:23am:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 8:59am: Another "Workchoices" policy from these ass holes....Why wasn't this policy highlighted by the Coalition before the last election....The Morrison Government has no mandate for these changes and should take them to the next election where they can be up front with voters and explain their policy!!! >:( >:( >:( I agree, they should take these changes to an election to secure a mandate first, even if they call an early election to do so.

It is part of the outcome from the anti Union bill about to be debated. They did take this to the last election. The Low life scum of Australia didn't care enough to squash it when they should have. The rest of us will pay for it well into the future with lower wage outcomes.

The other changes are at this time only business group lobbying. The same way that workchoices kicked off.

The Old BlackDay is quite keen on that Extremist Commo Socialist Feminazi Sheila at the ACTU - you know the mouse that roared but nobody even noticed she is so insignificant and generally useless. A bit like the old BlackDay - the parrot that squawked!!

juliar wrote on Oct 31^st, 2019 at 4:33pm:

The Old BlackDay is quite keen on that Extremist Commo Socialist Feminazi Sheila at the ACTU - you know the mouse that roared but nobody even noticed she is so insignificant and generally useless. A bit like the old BlackDay - the parrot that squawked!!

What a surprise - looks like you are wrong as usual.



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Business proposed bargaining changes would cost workers billions A new report from the Australia Institute’s Centre for Future Work includes modelling which shows that the changes to bargaining rules proposed by business groups