Driving back to Adelaide after working on my block, looooong drive, my eyes tend to droop and want to close after like an hours driving. (I have scheduled hourly stops to overcome this.)

I wonder of CO2 is helping to make me feel intensely sleepy?

Anyway, thought it might be fun to buy a CO2 meter to plug into a USB outlet in the car and see how CO2 levels vary? Could tell me when doors/windows have been open long enough to purge excess CO2.

Any suggestions to a cheap but OK CO2 meter for use in a car?

Perhaps you should hand your license in we don't need pisspots like you falling asleep at the wheel and endangering others.

Drop dead.

Anybody with sensible suggestions?

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

Anybody with sensible suggestions?

I gave you one hand in your license and stop endangering innocent people.

There's plenty on Ebay for $120

If there's not much traffic on the open road, leave your air vent open, that's the one that directs air from outside to inside the car, not the one that just circulates the stale air round and round inside

Yes, I do not recirculate cabin air.

Get one of these :)

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And get off the

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OK enough of the silly replies. I assume you have your dog in the car, is it showing signs of being effected by CO2?

Gordon wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 9:59pm:

OK enough of the silly replies. I assume you have your dog in the car, is it showing signs of being effected by CO2?

I'm worried ... for the dog.

AiA wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 10:14pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 9:59pm: OK enough of the silly replies. I assume you have your dog in the car, is it showing signs of being effected by CO2? I'm worried ... for the dog.

AiA is a self-professed dog lover and an associate of the fiend Three-fingers Haji Gordon.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 10:20pm:

AiA wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 10:14pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 15th, 2019 at 9:59pm: OK enough of the silly replies. I assume you have your dog in the car, is it showing signs of being effected by CO2? I'm worried ... for the dog. AiA is a self-professed dog lover and an associate of the fiend Three-fingers Haji Gordon.

Jovial Monk can take you to his next 12-step canine paraphimosis meeting. You need the same help he is getting.

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

There's plenty on Ebay for $120 If there's not much traffic on the open road, leave your air vent open, that's the one that directs air from outside to inside the car, not the one that just circulates the stale air round and round inside

I will see. I would love if I could run the meter or charge the battery using one of the cars USB outlets. Worst comes to worst—buy yet another power source  :)

Thank you for your help.

What is the Munk from the GetUp! Propaganda Site doing here ? Should delete this as the Munk does on his GetUp! propaganda Site.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 15^th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

Driving back to Adelaide after working on my block, looooong drive, my eyes tend to droop and want to close after like an hours driving. (I have scheduled hourly stops to overcome this.) I wonder of CO2 is helping to make me feel intensely sleepy? Anyway, thought it might be fun to buy a CO2 meter to plug into a USB outlet in the car and see how CO2 levels vary? Could tell me when doors/windows have been open long enough to purge excess CO2. Any suggestions to a cheap but OK CO2 meter for use in a car?

Let me know how you go with the little experiment.

I've had some similar experiences after site fit outs with a 4-hour drive back to the airport to catch a flight home at night.  It's likely just the fact they're usually 20-21 hour days, but I'm still keen to know what the sensor shows if you ever get it up and running.

I bought one from Ebay, $111 incl postage. Just hope that it arrives in time. Powered via USB so suitable for a car.

Will post the details on my return. I am most interested in the return trip: heading out the excitement obviously overcomes any CO2 excess but I will drive for an hour recirculating the air in the cabin and the rest with fresh air entering the cabin. Can test open v closed windows etc.

From Keith in SA to Nhill in Vic is 124Km, bit over an hours drive. Do that recirculating the air in the cabin, note results in a quick stop in Keith.

Add some interest to a boring drive.

Munk go back to your GetUp! propaganda Site. Why are you here polluting the joint with your Greeny Socialist GetUp! propaganda ?

Your unroadworthy heap is probably full of Carbon Monoxide from the leaking exhaust.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 9:10am:

I bought one from Ebay, $111 incl postage. Just hope that it arrives in time. Powered via USB so suitable for a car. Will post the details on my return. I am most interested in the return trip: heading out the excitement obviously overcomes any CO2 excess but I will drive for an hour recirculating the air in the cabin and the rest with fresh air entering the cabin. Can test open v closed windows etc. From Keith in SA to Nhill in Vic is 124Km, bit over an hours drive. Do that recirculating the air in the cabin, note results in a quick stop in Keith. Add some interest to a boring drive.

Look forward to the results, thanks :)

I mean “note results in a quick stop in Nhill.”

Nhill is rather a schitthole, BTW.

juliar wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 9:18am:

Munk go back to your GetUp! propaganda Site. Why are you here polluting the joint with your Greeny Socialist GetUp! propaganda ? Your unroadworthy heap is probably full of Carbon Monoxide from the leaking exhaust.

Juliar is drugged and doped with its own anus gas. The wretched blighter is addicted to it's own anus gas.

juliar wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 9:18am:

Munk go back to your GetUp! propaganda Site. Why are you here polluting the joint with your Greeny Socialist GetUp! propaganda ? Your unroadworthy heap is probably full of Carbon Monoxide from the leaking exhaust.

Why don’t you do the world a favor and drop dead?

You add nothing to a debate but a bit of cut and paste Lib propaganda. You cannot argue worth a damn when someone refutes the crap you post.

So—do the world a favor and drop dead, yeah?

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 1:40pm:

juliar wrote on Sep 17th, 2019 at 9:18am: Munk go back to your GetUp! propaganda Site. Why are you here polluting the joint with your Greeny Socialist GetUp! propaganda ? Your unroadworthy heap is probably full of Carbon Monoxide from the leaking exhaust. Why don’t you do the world a favor and drop dead? You add nothing to a debate but a bit of cut and paste Lib propaganda. You cannot argue worth a damn when someone refutes the crap you post. So—do the world a favor and drop dead, yeah?

You'll be dead before your cherry trees produce enough fruit to make wine ... 10 YEARS and you will not only be nodding off due to CO2 .....  ;D

Munk your Greeny rubbish should be deleted just like you delete posts in your rubbishy GetUp! Propaganda Site. Go back there and stay there.

AHAHAHAHA  you little dweeb, you don’t get to tell me what to do here.

Break my rules on my forum, suffer the penalty.

No ability to debate, just copy and paste.

How much CO2 is in the atmosphere is it less than 0.5%?

A fool and his money are soon parted...
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

If you were in a car with the fermenting pisspot called Monk I would be more worried about his CH4 emissions

$100 is not much, maybe to you it is.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

$100 is not much, maybe to you it is.

With CO2 levels less than 0.5% of the atmosphere I wouldn't waste money on buying one.

I know Horticulturalists who bought CO2 Generators to make plants grow faster.

https://www.johnsongas.com/industrial/CO2Gen.asp

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

$100 is not much, maybe to you it is.

That enough to keep you drunk for a day or two?

I think I will PM Sad Kangaroo with the results of the CO2 tests.

Lee King wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 6:02pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 17th, 2019 at 1:40pm: juliar wrote on Sep 17th, 2019 at 9:18am: Munk go back to your GetUp! propaganda Site. Why are you here polluting the joint with your Greeny Socialist GetUp! propaganda ? Your unroadworthy heap is probably full of Carbon Monoxide from the leaking exhaust. Why don’t you do the world a favor and drop dead? You add nothing to a debate but a bit of cut and paste Lib propaganda. You cannot argue worth a damn when someone refutes the crap you post. So—do the world a favor and drop dead, yeah? You'll be dead before your cherry trees produce enough fruit to make wine ... 10 YEARS and you will not only be nodding off due to CO2 .....  ;D

Nope. You got bum information.

Not only that, I have NEVER said anything about making cherry wine, you jealous halfwit.

It is so sweet! The jealous do-nothings, know-nothings from the sewer wishing me ill because they could not do  tenth of what I do.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 17^th, 2019 at 9:01pm:

It is so sweet! The jealous do-nothings, know-nothings from the sewer wishing me ill because they could not do  tenth of what I do.

Nobody would want to do even a tenth of what you do. Yuck!

Munk your puerile Greeny GetUp! trash is even worse than when you were here before until you got suspended.

Maybe the carbon monoxide in your unroadworthy car is bending your brain ?

Hey Munk what is your recipe for making cherry wine ?

Go away child.

Munk why do you think people in Tasmania are a bit weird ?

Munk do you find you are gasping for breath when you get into a high concentration of dangerous poisonous carbon dioxide gas ?

Munk do you feel guilty breathing out carbon dioxide ?

Go play with your dolls, child.

Silly old Munkee, when are you going to start your puerile Greeny GetUp! raving about the Global Warming HOAX and the Climate Change SCAM ?

You should feel guilty about breathing carbon dioxide out.

Go play with your barby doll, child.

Hey Munkee why don't you chuck another mental just like you used to do before you got suspended ?

Measuing the CO2 is an interesting idea.  I've also got another device that is meant to detect when the drive is getting tired.  A friend of mine was developing it as part of their PHD and I was testing it for them for a while.

It would measure your body language, yawning etc but required an onboard computer.  It nearly always picked up I was tired before I realised it.

He's got his PHD now, I'll have to ask him if the idea ever went to market.

Awesome.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 12:49pm:

Measuing the CO2 is an interesting idea.  I've also got another device that is meant to detect when the drive is getting tired.  A friend of mine was developing it as part of their PHD and I was testing it for them for a while. It would measure your body language, yawning etc but required an onboard computer.  It nearly always picked up I was tired before I realised it. He's got his PHD now, I'll have to ask him if the idea ever went to market.

Awesome idea.

I take 3 rest breaks on the way down tho could do it with one. On the way up I take about 6, roughly every hour. Necessary.

Returning home last April was horrid, lots traffic and nearly 40°C heat. Stopped at Bordertown, me and dog walked this nice park and around the pond and the rest of the way home was fine.

The Munkee is obsessed with carbon dioxide the dangerous poisonous gas that he reckons is dooming the planet.

And he breaths out carbon dioxide - shame!!!

And his unroadworthy car leaks carbon monoxide out the exhaust which gets into the cabin through the rust holes in the floor and Munkee blames carbon dioxide - talk about having the blinkers on.

Hush child, your parents are calling you to come inside and have dinner.

Poor Munkee his mind is warped by exposure to carbon dioxide and Global Warming.

But Global Warming is greening the deserts something terrific and making food crops grow fantastic.

CO2 is not greening the deserts—the Sahara grew all through the period some thought CO2 might be greening.

The greening is mostly the Chinese and Indians planting trees and extending intensive agriculture.

Sahara is still growing.

juliar wrote on Sep 19^th, 2019 at 6:31pm:

The Munkee is obsessed with carbon dioxide the dangerous poisonous gas that he reckons is dooming the planet. And he breaths out carbon dioxide - shame!!! And his unroadworthy car leaks carbon monoxide out the exhaust which gets into the cabin through the rust holes in the floor and Munkee blames carbon dioxide - talk about having the blinkers on.

SHUTUP RETARD

BazzaFromTheScrub seems a bit unbalanced. Is she a wacko Greeny ?

And of course Munkee is quick with the lies and denies and false information. Classic uneducated uninformed Greeny waiting for the world to end.

No, you pathetic oil industry shill, it was found that the so-called “CO2 greening” was actually manmade in India and China.

The Sahara still expanding shows how wrong the “CO2 greening” hypothesis was. About as silly as expecting cars to run on hydrogen.

Silly dumb old Munkee is quick to trot out the Greeny GetUp! propaganda lies and denies and fabricated fiction which the silly gullible fool has learnt by heart.

Munkee you should do your bit to halt the Global Warming HOAX by stopping breathing out carbon dioxide.

It is good fun rubbing these idiotic deluded brainwashed Greeny types snouts in their own stupidity.



CO2 is making Earth greener—for now
By Samson Reiny, NASA's Earth Science News Team NEWS | April 26, 2016

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This image shows the change in leaf area across the globe from 1982-2015. Credit: Boston University/R. Myneni.

A quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

Green leaves use energy from sunlight through photosynthesis to chemically combine carbon dioxide drawn in from the air with water and nutrients tapped from the ground to produce sugars, which are the main source of food, fiber and fuel for life on Earth. Studies have shown that increased concentrations of carbon dioxide increase photosynthesis, spurring plant growth.

While rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the air can be beneficial for plants, it is also the chief culprit of climate change. The gas, which traps heat in Earth’s atmosphere, has been increasing since the industrial age due to the burning of oil, gas, coal and wood for energy and is continuing to reach concentrations not seen in at least 500,000 years. The impacts of climate change include global warming, rising sea levels, melting glaciers and sea ice as well as more severe weather events.

Carbon dioxide fertilization isn’t the only cause of the increased plant growth—nitrogen, land cover change and climate change by way of global temperature, precipitation and sunlight changes all contribute to the greening effect. To determine the extent of carbon dioxide’s contribution, researchers ran the data for carbon dioxide and each of the other variables in isolation through several computer models that mimic the plant growth observed in the satellite data.

Results showed that carbon dioxide fertilization explains 70 percent of the greening effect, said co-author Ranga Myneni, a professor in the Department of Earth and Environment at Boston University. “The second most important driver is nitrogen, at 9 percent. So we see what an outsized role CO2 plays in this process.”

About 85 percent of Earth’s ice-free lands is covered by vegetation. The area covered by all the green leaves on Earth is equal to, on average, 32 percent of Earth’s total surface area — oceans, lands and permanent ice sheets combined. The extent of the greening over the past 35 years “has the ability to fundamentally change the cycling of water and carbon in the climate system,” said lead author Zaichun Zhu, a researcher from Peking University, China, who did the first half of this study with Myneni as a visiting scholar at Boston University.

Every year, about half of the 10 billion tons of carbon emitted into the atmosphere from human activities remains temporarily stored, in about equal parts, in the oceans and plants. “While our study did not address the connection between greening and carbon storage in plants, other studies have reported an increasing carbon sink on land since the 1980s, which is entirely consistent with the idea of a greening Earth,” said co-author Shilong Piao of the College of Urban and Environmental Sciences at Peking University.

The beneficial impacts of carbon dioxide on plants may be limited, said co-author Dr. Philippe Ciais, associate director of the Laboratory of Climate and Environmental Sciences, Gif-suv-Yvette, France. “Studies have shown that plants acclimatize, or adjust, to rising carbon dioxide concentration and the fertilization effect diminishes over time.”

“While the detection of greening is based on data, the attribution to various drivers is based on models,” said co-author Josep Canadell of the Oceans and Atmosphere Division in the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation in Canberra, Australia. Canadell added that while the models represent the best possible simulation of Earth system components, they are continually being improved.

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2436/co2-is-making-earth-greenerfor-now/

Shucks it never rains it pours. It must feel like a fool being a Greeny.

The Global Warming HOAX and the Climate Change SCAM are last ditch efforts by the Socialists to try to get their One World Govt in a Sustainable World up as everything else has failed.



Deserts 'greening' from rising CO2
03 Jul 2013

Increased levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) have helped boost green foliage across the world’s arid regions over the past 30 years through a process called CO2 fertilisation, according to CSIRO research.

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Green green my world is green

In findings based on satellite observations, CSIRO, in collaboration with the Australian National University (ANU), found that this CO2 fertilisation correlated with an 11 per cent increase in foliage cover from 1982-2010 across parts of the arid areas studied in Australia, North America, the Middle East and Africa, according to CSIRO research scientist, Dr Randall Donohue.

"In Australia, our native vegetation is superbly adapted to surviving in arid environments and it consequently uses water very efficiently," Dr Donohue said. "Australian vegetation seems quite sensitive to CO2 fertilisation.

This, along with the vast extents of arid landscapes, means Australia featured prominently in our results."

"While a CO2 effect on foliage response has long been speculated, until now it has been difficult to demonstrate," according to Dr Donohue.

"Our work was able to tease-out the CO2 fertilisation effect by using mathematical modelling together with satellite data adjusted to take out the observed effects of other influences such as precipitation, air temperature, the amount of light, and land-use changes."

The fertilisation effect occurs where elevated CO2 enables a leaf during photosynthesis, the process by which green plants convert sunlight into sugar, to extract more carbon from the air or lose less water to the air, or both.

If elevated CO2 causes the water use of individual leaves to drop, plants in arid environments will respond by increasing their total numbers of leaves. These changes in leaf cover can be detected by satellite, particularly in deserts and savannas where the cover is less complete than in wet locations, according to Dr Donohue.

"On the face of it, elevated CO2 boosting the foliage in dry country is good news and could assist forestry and agriculture in such areas; however there will be secondary effects that are likely to influence water availability, the carbon cycle, fire regimes and biodiversity, for example," Dr Donohue said.

"Ongoing research is required if we are to fully comprehend the potential extent and severity of such secondary effects."

This study was published in the US Geophysical Research Letters journal and was funded by CSIRO's Sustainable Agriculture Flagship, Water for a Healthy Country Flagship, the Australian Research Council and Land & Water Australia.

https://www.csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2013/Deserts-greening-from-rising-CO2

All superseded by more modern, higher-resolution study.

CO₂ greening does not exist.

The Sahara is still growing at 415ppm CO2.

Silly dopey old munkee just trots out the prepared Greeny lying rot replies which he has learnt off by heart.   What a fool who likes to hold his sad inferior gullible ignorant self up for ridicule.


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Munkee why weren't you out there marching before the world ends ? SHAME!!!!

I have a science degree and have read a lot of the literature.

Here is the IR spectrum as measured by a satellite:

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Now to make silly old munkee squirm with embarrassment. But he will twirp some rubbish Greeny lying prepare reply.



18 spectacularly wrong apocalyptic predictions made around the time of the first Earth Day in 1970, expect more this year Carpe Diem
Mark J. Perry April 21, 2014 8:04 pm | AEIdeas

50 years of failed doomsday, eco-pocalyptic predictions; the so-called ‘experts’ are 0-41.

On the 30th anniversary of the first Earth Day in 1970, Ronald Bailey wrote an excellent article in the May 2000 edition of Reason Magazine titled “Earth Day, Then and Now.” In that article, Bailey noted that around the time of the first Earth Day, and in the years following, there was a “torrent of apocalyptic predictions” and many of those predictions were featured in his Reason article.  Well, now that more than 40 years have passed, how accurate were those predictions around the time of the first Earth Day? Wrong, spectacularly wrong, and here are 18 examples:

1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

2. “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.

12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in his 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.

13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out.

14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”

15. Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.

And this magnificent rubbishing of the idiotic doomsday Greenies continues overleaf

This rubbishing of the idiotic Greenies continues...


16. Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote in Look that, “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

17. In 1975, Paul Ehrlich predicted that “since more than nine-tenths of the original tropical rainforests will be removed in most areas within the next 30 years or so, it is expected that half of the organisms in these areas will vanish with it.”

18. Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

MP: Let’s keep those spectacularly wrong predictions from the first Earth Day 1970 in mind when we’re bombarded tomorrow with media hype, and claims like this from the official Earth Day website:

The fight against climate change is at an impasse and life on Earth hangs in the balance. Help us save polar bears and other wildlife as their habitats disappear and their food sources become scarce. Like the polar bear, human life is under threat, too. Storms are becoming stronger, droughts are becoming more severe, and rising sea levels encroach on our cities. We need an active informed public to stand tall, stop and reverse climate change and protect our children’s future!

Finally, think about this question, posed by Ronald Bailey: What will Earth look like when Earth Day 60 rolls around in 2030? Bailey predicts a much cleaner, and much richer future world, with less hunger and malnutrition, less poverty, and longer life expectancy, and with lower mineral and metal prices. But he makes one final prediction about Earth Day in 2030: “There will be a disproportionately influential group of doomsters predicting that the future–and the present–never looked so bleak.” In other words, the hysteria and apocalyptic predictions will continue, promoted by the “environmental grievance hustlers.”

Discussion:
Jeffery April 21st, 2014
Gaea is angry at Mankind, and Mankind needs to go, so say some of the Utopians. That’s why we have population control and stability movements, and of course Planned Genocide Clinics.


Seattle Sam April 21st, 2014
It’s odd that when forecasts of “end days” from apocalyptic religious prognosticators are made, the media dutifully brings out how wrong they have been in the past. Yet every Earth Day similar failed predictions don’t get the same attention.

BTW, I wonder if we’ll be reminded of Al Gore’s prediction in 2008 that “the entire North ‘polarized’ cap will disappear in 5 years.”

kleht April 21st, 2014
You are certainly correct that the cataclysmic changes predicted around 1970 turned out wrong. And most, including today’s will be mostly wrong – mainly, probably, because dates have been assigned, which is certainly plain baloney. No one, that I am aware of, has ever predicted when an event of such nature will occur by a certain date, let alone whether the event itself will actually occur.

I’ve always felt that humans have an excellent way of predicting the past and the present, but not the future. And I’ve always been a skeptic regarding what I hear, especially when a human says it.

But there are things that can reasonably be predicted, if we leave out the dates, such as:

The number of humans on this planet will level out and not keep rising as it is still doing. All forms of life on this planet are subject to limitations as to numbers. Theoretically, any form of life (from bacteria to the highest forms) could fill every inch of the planet. But it can’t happen for obvious reasons – lack of food, energy, predators, viruses. Humans are not immune to this.

The earth will heat up, regardless of cause. An ice age is in our future and with it the near (or complete) destruction of the human race. Why? Because the history of the earth always follows this course of events, one way or another.

But attempting to date any prediction is a bit foolhardy. But then, so is ridiculing past ill-conceived predictions. After all, hindsight does have its benefits. Instead of simply high-lighting the wrongful predictions (as if we are all-seeing, all-knowing Gods), why not high-light those in the 1970’s who had the foresight to claim the forecasts as foolhardy?

Ken April 21st, 2014
But attempting to date any prediction is a bit foolhardy. But then, so is ridiculing past ill-conceived predictions….

… why not high-light those in the 1970′s who had the foresight to claim the forecasts as foolhardy

Julian Simon’s predictions were pretty good. Paul Ehrlich found that out. We should in fact ridicule “ill-conceived predictions”. We know what many of them are and they cause all sorts of damage to society. It’s foolhardy to simply embrace “ill-conceived predictions”.

Sadly, many think the bet was a fluke and Julian Simon is ridiculed. He was the 20th century Cassandra and still today is ridiculed because he put on display the foolishness of the leftist philosophy.

https://www.aei.org/publication/18-spectacularly-wrong-apocalyptic-predictions-made-around-the-time-of-the-first-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year/?fbclid=IwAR2zWiw2DgGNfOuMoT8yR-_CKBOPYBSw3Eq0jQ7RaBdXPLw8rR23aD-JZfA

Yes, I didn’t think you would understand the data in the graphic.

Silly old munkee has a degree in lying Greeny prepared replies. And he reads all those ridiculous Greeny lying prepared replies.

He just trots out the Greeny trash especially rubbishy graphs.

The fact is he doesn't understand hardly anything as his silly dumb posts reveal many times over.

Now to hold munkee up to ridicule again.


Climate FARCE Strike Facts

Organisers said the Australian ClimateStrike turnout number was 300,000 - and they would've exaggerated.

Giving the benefit of the doubt, 300,000 in a country of 25 million, that's a 1.2% turnout - so just 10% of Greens voters showed up.

Then consider most were kids wanting a bludge day...

Which politician in their right mind would pay attention to a non-voting kids and assorted misfits?

Oh yes.. The Australian Greens would.

Do you know what the graphic shows, YouLiar?

It shows a huge deficit in the IR spectrum in the wavelengths corresponding to CO2.

The energy from that missing IR goes into heating the atmosphere and surface. Pretty good proof of AGW.

Notice the gap for methane, CH4, that will grow rapidly larger, unfortunately, as thawing permafrost releases more and more methane.

Munkee must wish he could delete these devastating posts which make him look such an ignorant uneducated gullible silly fool.

Fraudulent graphs are widely used in Greeny prepared replies to bamboozle the gullible drongohs like Munkee.

And Munkees's GROSS IGNORANCE is revealed when the fool says carbon dioxide blocks heat transfer.

Water Vapor is by FAR the main inhibitor of heat transfer thru the atmosphere. But then Munkee would not know what day it is.

See, you cannot even understand the graph when I explained it. You are one dumb and dishonest oil shill. Do you get paid for promoting fossil fuel use, YouLiar?

The dopey old munkee just keeps digging himself deeper into his hole of ignorance. Classic dumb ignorant brain washed Greeny.

And the silly fool cannot understand his fraudulent "graph" is just contrived bulldust.

No, it is readings from a spectrometer in a satellite. It corresponds VERY closely to the predicted values of IR absorbed.

If you wish to believe it is fraudulent that is a matter for you. If you claim it is fraudulent you need to provide evidence to back your claim. You will not be able to do so.

The dull dreary boring Munkee just trots out prepared Greeny replies which are usually just fabricated fiction.  Contrived "graphs" are a favorite way the Greenies use to fool the gullibles like Munkee.

The Global Warming HOAX was replaced by the Climate Change SCAM when no warming occurred. When no Climate Change occurs what will be the next trick ?  The Atmospheric Anomalies SHAM ?

Aware Australians know that the whole "Climate Change" thing is a fabricated farce created by the UN as a last ditch effort to try to get their One World Government in a Sustainable world up and going as everything they have tried has failed.

These noxious creeps have been brain washing our little kiddies in the school with this fabricated garbage and neglecting to teach them the very necessary 3 R's which are essential to survival in our competitive world.

There is rumor of a Class Action against the Education Department because of the way this department has ruined the lives of our kiddies by wasting their time at school with useless rubbish brain washing and failing to carry out their proper function.

See, you cannot understand the graphic or refute the clear message it sends.

Silly old Munkee is done for by a much cleverer opponent who knows and understands the FACTS and is not fooled by contrived dubious Greeny "graphs" which show nothing but fabricated fiction.

Poor old CO₂ is being blamed for just about everything even tho the bottom has fallen out of the Greenies false argument.  But CO₂ is greening the deserts and making food crops grow like crazy.

The simple FACT is that CO₂ has a negligible effect on heat transfer to and from the earth. But water vapor has the most significant effect on stopping heat flow to and from the earth. See how cool it is on a cloudy day.

The Socialists are desperate now with meaningless marches and hysterical sheilas shrieking nonsense as their Climate Change SCAM is being recognized for the silly SCAM it is and they see their dream of a Glorious Socialist One World Government in a Sustainable World crumbling into dust from lack of interest.

The Global warming HOAX was abandoned in a fit of PANIC by the UN scammers when no heating occurred and so what will the UN scammers replace the Climate Change SCAM with when the climate doesn't change ?

The Atmospheric Anomaly SHAM ?

As I said, the graph is the spectrum of upwelling longwave radiation reaching top of atmosphere. It shows CO2, H2O, CH4 etc etc do absorb IR at the wavelengths corresponding to the GHGs.

The silly old Greeny Munkee is still rabbiting and raving about his fudged "graph" dragged out of the Greeny archives of frauds and fallacies. What a gullible twit.

juliar wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 8:10am:

Contrived "graphs" are a favorite way the Greenies use to fool the gullibles like Munkee.

AKA, "The Greens use facts to spread awareness about issues that impact us all, even those of us who pretend the facts don't matter, waaaa waaaa"

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Now the silly Skippy the Greeny Kangyroo rushes in to display her gross ignorance. What a flop.

juliar wrote on Sep 25^th, 2019 at 9:32am:

Now the silly Skippy the Greeny Kangyroo rushes in to display her gross ignorance. What a flop.

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Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 8:28am:

I have a science degree and have read a lot of the literature.

I call bullshit on you having a science degree.

Why do you ignore the science that shows the earth has cycled between Icehouse and Greenhouse for billions of years?

NOBODY would ever believe ANYTHING that oozes out of the wacko Greeny Munkee. He lies like a sleeping monkey.

Actually the Carbon Dioxide in his unroadworthy heap is from his heavy breathing.

Also there is carbon monoxide leaking from holes in the exhaust and getting into the cabin thru the rust holes in the floor.

juliar wrote on Sep 26^th, 2019 at 1:53pm:

Actually the Carbon Dioxide in his unroadworthy heap is from his heavy breathing. Also there is carbon monoxide leaking from holes in the exhaust and getting into the cabin thru the rust holes in the floor.

;D ;D Better than the clapped out vehicle he had prior.   ;D ;D

Sounds like the old Greeny Munkee might have problems with gas build up. Gassy diet.