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Title: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by rhino on Sep 6th, 2019 at 8:34pm
Vegans at higher risk of disease and illness than meat eaters, who would have thought.
https://thewest.com.au/news/health/british-medical-journal-study-finds-vegetarians-vegans-may-face-higher-stroke-risk-ng-b881315503z |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Sep 7th, 2019 at 7:27am
What they dont say is its not because they dont eat meat but because of all the poisonous crap they eat instead of meat because the media tells them they have to have a meat "substitute".
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Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gnads on Sep 7th, 2019 at 8:11am rhino wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 8:34pm:
I would of thought it reasonable that vegan activists suffer strokes ...... about 50 strokes of the rattan. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 7th, 2019 at 8:12am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 7:27am:
Source? |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Sep 7th, 2019 at 9:14am Gordon wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 8:12am:
Common sense. They eat unprocessed soy among other things Spot |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 7th, 2019 at 9:36am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 9:14am:
Which is a poor reflection on veganism. Eggs and dairy is such a great and healthy source of protein. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:00am
... especially if they take on Spanish rabbit farmers ....
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Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:02am Gordon wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 9:36am:
One of the ex's kids is a Vegan - we've tried the (stuff) they eat, and there is a basic rule - if it tastes bad, it's not good for you - that stuff tastes bad .... fortunately his daughters don't follow in their dad's footsteps ... they eat meat in front of him ... |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Captain Caveman on Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:15am
Every vegan I meet seems really drawn in the face, skinny (boney), pale and they just don't look healthy.
Good luck to them. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 7th, 2019 at 4:26pm
I love tofu and eat it a few times a week and I also regularly eat chick peas, lentils which after a google I see are in the top 10 protein sources for vegans.
No 1 is Seitan which I've never heard of but is some manufactured crap made of wheat made to look like a meat loaf. Dropping meat would be no drama for me if I keep eggs and dairy. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Sep 7th, 2019 at 5:07pm
Tofu is usually safe although it's not as full of vitamins as you would think. It's the unprocessed stuff that's bad. The Asians turned it into Tofu and sit sauce for a reason.
Spot |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 7th, 2019 at 5:25pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 5:07pm:
It should be an accompaniment or occasional main. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by .JaSin. on Sep 7th, 2019 at 6:08pm
Veganism isn't based on 'Unprocessed' rebellion.
As many 'vegetables and fruits' are processed (let alone 'sprayed', etc) foods as well as meat. Besides Vegans verse Carnism, it will soon be 'Processed verse Wild'. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 7th, 2019 at 7:17pm Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 10:15am:
Not to mention their mental state... |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 7th, 2019 at 7:23pm Gordon wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 4:26pm:
**yum** chick peas... the French call them 'poor peas' ... no idea why... maybe because they are a favourite with the pieds noirs... Wow - just read a book about Arnhem (again - thanks Brian) post the battle and with the German revenge on the Dutch... apparently some girls who survived on tulip bulbs (yuk) instead of wheat were better off - but when they were fed 'Kelviinators from the sky' Yank white bread they developed coeliac ... many died.... No wonder the Dutch don't love the Germans... no wonder many Dutch emigrated ... The Lucky country has no internal wars... yet ... This reminds you of the reality shown in Band of Brothers, where the concentration camp inmates could not be fed too much or too good food.. bring them on slowly .. too much of a shock to the system. You need to bring them on slowly with increasing amounts of an increasingly rich soup, then stew ... keep the hydration up and slowly introduce vitamins and minerals and such ... Damn I hate to see starving children... |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by mothra on Sep 8th, 2019 at 3:11am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 7th, 2019 at 7:27am:
Very few of the vegetarians and vegans i know eat fake meat products. They're pretty universally looked down upon. I reckon they're only bought by confused relatives hosting a vego or veegs to dinner or a BBQ. But you're right about soy. Interestingly, it may not just be the overprocessed crap we get (and it's in everything, not just fake meat, seriously people, check your ingredients), it's that Asians seem to have developed specific enzymes to process soy than isn't lurking in the guts of your random person of other than Asian descent. But as to this study, my money's on B12. Were it cholesterol as also hypothesised, we;d not see the significant reduction in heart disease in vegos and veegs. So that mushrooms and Vegemite on the shopping list for those looking. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Abu on Sep 8th, 2019 at 3:47am
I've met a woman who lives on nothing at all - the odd cup of herbal tea or fruit juice, but rarely. She's a Kriya Yoga nun from Germany, a former doctor.
I've met people she's stayed with who watched her closely for a few weeks. They confirmed it. Without food, she literally burns with a sort of vibrant.and compassionate intelligence. When Yeheshua said, man does not live alone but by the very word of God, it would seem He meant it literally. This nun lives on divine energy. She doesnt advertise it, she'd probably deny it. I've rarely heard her speak at all. She spends her entire day working too - she has a happy determination about her. She has a radiance I've never seen in others. Of all the spiritual powers one might receive, I doubt the ability to live without food is one anyone would really want. Telepathy, levitation, X ray vision, sure. But giving up food and drink? Why? Don't try it at home, leftards, but know that you can indeed transcend physical rules once you learn new ones. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by mothra on Sep 8th, 2019 at 3:52am Karnal wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 3:47am:
Gordy and Setanta were just mocking this in another thread. No doubt they'll think she thinks she's superior to them and put her in her place. They're touchy about that. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Abu on Sep 8th, 2019 at 6:59am mothra wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 3:52am:
We all start off that way, Mothra, but once we progress we come to realise no one's superior to anyone else, not even the tinted races. Atoms, cells, animals, humans, we're all superior because we have the life force. Sometimes you meet people who seem genuinely curious, who really want to spend time with someone else who's actually alive. It's hard, I know. You have to humour them and get back to your internet or whatever. They may even be your children. But apparently, that time spent is never wasted. That's what they tell me, anyway. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by mothra on Sep 8th, 2019 at 7:50am Karnal wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 6:59am:
Whilst I am with you on the bemusement over claims of superiority, I'm afraid you leave me quite cold on the esoteric concept of time management. Perhaps I have still much to learn but I remain guarded about where I spend my energy. And if the internet has taught me anything, it has taught me that. FD's hosting a stunning example. Adaption, innit. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 8th, 2019 at 7:55am
Should newborn babies and children be raised as airitarians?
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Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by mothra on Sep 8th, 2019 at 7:59am Gordon wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 7:55am:
Why do you think that woman's choices mean anything at all for anyone else? |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:01am mothra wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 7:59am:
Because like all who make her claim she's a fraud. A bit like you. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/breatharians/ |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by mothra on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:04am Gordon wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:01am:
Do you feel better about yourself now? |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:06am mothra wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:04am:
Yes because is Sunday and I'm having bacon for breakfast which is way more nutritious than cosmic energy ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by mothra on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:09am Gordon wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:06am:
Enjoy. See if you can find a place in your heart to accept others for their difference. Then you can say it was a great breakfast and you'll have learned a wonderful parenting skill in the process. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:18am
Do the world a favor moths and become a strict Breatharian.
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Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by mothra on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:22am Gordon wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:18am:
Such animosity. So telling. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:29am mothra wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:22am:
Well you've bought into Karnals nonsense of Breatharianism so there is no animosity as you will thrive off cosmic energy. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by AiA on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:33am |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by mothra on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:35am Gordon wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:29am:
Have I? I don't recall doing so. I certainly know there are things on this wondrous planet that defy my understanding. My impulse is not to ridicule. Yours is. I think we are after different rewards. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by mothra on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:35am Gordon wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:29am:
Have I? I don't recall doing so. I certainly know there are things on this wondrous planet that defy my understanding. My impulse is not to ridicule. Yours is. I think we are after different rewards. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:39am
Breatharianis should be ridiculed because they are frauds and liars.
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Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by mothra on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:43am Gordon wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:39am:
Yes. You think all sorts of people should be ridiculed. You take your kid out ridiculing. It's what you do. And we don't do much without a payoff. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by John Smith on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:43am
is gordie looking for another scratch on the belly?
Aia,you're wanted. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by AiA on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:50am John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:43am:
John, you have confused me with that random man in the bushes whose cock you love to ride. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by AiA on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:51am
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Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by cods on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:53am Gordon wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:39am:
I had never heard of such a thing until this thread.. people claim all sorts of things gordy.as long as they are not selling it who cares.?... if this was valid I think we would have heard more on the subject..especially as obesity is a major problem today.....I am always suss when a couple are involved..I dont know why that is... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by John Smith on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:59am AiA wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:50am:
impossible! Everyone knows you have no cock. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by AiA on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:01am cods wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:53am:
We all suspected your education was inadequate. Now we know. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by AiA on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:02am John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:59am:
That is actually a good comeback :) |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by John Smith on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:04am AiA wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:02am:
According to bobby, it's also true. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Setanta on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:10pm
This thread was locked and as I see no reason for it to locked, now unlocked. If another mod locks this again, please leave a reason and a post.
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Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Aussie on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:13pm Setanta wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:10pm:
Oh!!!!! Maybe it was FD who locked it? |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Setanta on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:16pm Aussie wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:13pm:
Maybe, he should have said so. Perhaps he's a breatharian and doesn't like fish as much as he makes out. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:17pm Setanta wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:10pm:
I assumed the thread was a vegan, and had a stroke. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:18pm
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Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Abu on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:25pm mothra wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 8:35am:
My impulse is to be curious. I never accept claims without a bit of investigation or consideration. Gordon is a containerist. He looks at the package things come in and says ah. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Gordon on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:27pm Karnal wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:25pm:
Karnel believes in woowoo ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Setanta on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:32pm Gordon wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:27pm:
Or is it poopoo? Miam Miam. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by AiA on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:42pm John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:04am:
According to bobby, you really know how to relax your jaw and ease up your gag reflex, John. |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by AiA on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:42pm
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Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Yadda on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:56pm Karnal wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 3:47am:
Karnal wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 6:59am:
Karnal - on the higher path ? WWW search..... survival into the 21st century, breatharian Quote:
written 27 years ago ? I've got a couple of copies dated 1975. Watch out you don't trip over, stepping upon all of that slippery blood under your feet, K. Karnal UserAvatar |
Title: Re: vegans may face higher stroke risk Post by Abu on Sep 9th, 2019 at 5:49am Gordon wrote on Sep 8th, 2019 at 9:27pm:
Gordon believes in an outer layer of pigmentation. Superior container, innit. Inferior subfaeces. Miam miam. |
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