A very interesting Radio Nation programme.  Well worth listening to.  Navigating the politics of identity   8-)

Using a white example (Ireland) to explain identity politics. How typical.

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:10pm:

Using a white example (Ireland) to explain identity politics. How typical.

Using a deeply divided example which had two or three different tribes who happened to be white.  You should like the bit about the Muslims, Hammer...  Listen to it, it might make you think a little bit harder about what you're always rabbiting on about.   ::)

I listened
The woman had mental issues which clouded her judgment
Actually she was just full of bitterness and hatred
The bloke was just a self opinionated tosser.
The interviewer never took them to task as they should have.

“To me, identity means that sense of yourself in a room by yourself, and then those things that you accumulate along the way: what you care about; what you don’t, which can be just as important; whom you love. And that, to me, that’s identity. And that’s interesting.  Character is interesting. And the way we change, and refine ourselves or sometimes slip backwards, that’s just fascinating. So I resist the whole notion that what defines us are these groups we were born members of. I find that a grim, flat, ugly way of looking at the world.”
Lionel Shriver.






Identity politics - 'gender', race and all the rest of it - is shite. Touch it and you too will be smeared and contaminated.




'Gender' identity and politics is particularly Bwianesque and stupid and parochial (same things, really). Gender neutral language is impossible in French or German, for example, where every noun is gendered, mostly arbitrarily.

James  Carleton- a most irksome little man. On RN breakfast he was a presence of very little value for years. Now he has a program the Bwianesque demographic finds interesting.
The supercilious speaks to the supercilious.

I will continue to delete any posts that appear to just be trying to troll

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 3:10pm:

Using a white example (Ireland) to explain identity politics. How typical.

Is there something about Irish resentment that is present in various Australian political discourses, around Unions, Aborigines, the resentment industry?

I have no view but I have heard anecdotally that there is a resentful Irish undercurrent in Australian social and political discourse.

Frank wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 3:10pm: Using a white example (Ireland) to explain identity politics. How typical. Is there something about Irish resentment that is present in various Australian political discourses, around Unions, Aborigines, the resentment industry? I have no view but I have heard anecdotally that there is a resentful Irish undercurrent in Australian social and political discourse.

I suggest you read Thomas Keneally's book, "The Great Shame" which is about the Irish in Australia over the last two centuries, Soren.  It will tell you all you want to know about how badly the Irish have been treated downunder.  ::)

The Irish, being Catholics were not trusted by the English Protestants and Australia was wracked until about 1965 by sectarian discrimination on the basis of religion.  The Catholics were discriminated against in employment, education and religion. 

In the Commonwealth Public Service there was no such discrimination, which is why my own father left the South Australian Public Service to join the Commonwealth Public Service after WWII.  In the South Australian Public Service you could not rise to become a Clerk if you were a Catholic.   You were barred on the basis of religion and you were limited to only being a Clerical Assistant.

When the Catholics asked for funds for Catholic schools, the State and Federal Government's initially refused.  The Catholics revolted and closed their own schools and sent all their kids to the State schools.   The State schools were unable to cope and this forced the Commonwealth Government to fund Catholic schools - How a Catholic school's fight over a toilet evolved into high-stakes political warfare.

After that, the Sectarian divide basically disappeared and today, few Australians know of it.  It has almost disappeared completely from Australian society but it did exist.  I know.  My father and my family were victims of it, Soren.   It is why I fight against discrimination against anybody on the basis of religion and that includes Muslims.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 18^th, 2019 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 18th, 2019 at 7:06pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 3:10pm: Using a white example (Ireland) to explain identity politics. How typical. Is there something about Irish resentment that is present in various Australian political discourses, around Unions, Aborigines, the resentment industry? I have no view but I have heard anecdotally that there is a resentful Irish undercurrent in Australian social and political discourse. I suggest you read Thomas Keneally's book, "The Great Shame" which is about the Irish in Australia over the last two centuries, Soren.  It will tell you all you want to know about how badly the Irish have been treated downunder.  ::) The Irish, being Catholics were not trusted by the English Protestants and Australia was wracked until about 1965 by sectarian discrimination on the basis of religion.  The Catholics were discriminated against in employment, education and religion.  In the Commonwealth Public Service there was no such discrimination, which is why my own father left the South Australian Public Service to join the Commonwealth Public Service after WWII.  In the South Australian Public Service you could not rise to become a Clerk if you were a Catholic.   You were barred on the basis of religion and you were limited to only being a Clerical Assistant. When the Catholics asked for funds for Catholic schools, the State and Federal Government's initially refused.  The Catholics revolted and closed their own schools and sent all their kids to the State schools.   The State schools were unable to cope and this forced the Commonwealth Government to fund Catholic schools - How a Catholic school's fight over a toilet evolved into high-stakes political warfare. After that, the Sectarian divide basically disappeared and today, few Australians know of it.  It has almost disappeared completely from Australian society but it did exist.  I know.  My father and my family were victims of it, Soren.   It is why I fight against discrimination against anybody on the basis of religion and that includes Muslims.   ::)

Would you defend Scientology and Woodoo and the Hindu case system? Of course not.  So ddon't be everyone's ready-made champion, Bwian, it's idiotic and insincere.

I am aware of the Catholic/Protestant schism - hardly unique to Australia - but I am asking about the lingering rancour, which I think you display as well.  This is the kind of rancour that the Irish have infected the Aborigines with and are now infecting immigrant groups like the Muslims, Africans, anyone who would buy into their resentment and undying rancour against - what? The English? Protestants? what is eating at your hearts? What would give you peace?

Nothing. Rancour is all. That's what I am asking about - the undying resentment of the Irish, even when there is emancipation, peace, equality. The hate and resentment burns on, infecting all who come into contact with it unawares.

Frank wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 7:51pm:

Would you defend Scientology and Woodoo and the Hindu case system? Of course not.  So ddon't be everyone's ready-made champion, Bwian, it's idiotic and insincere.

In truth, I do not defend Nazis and Fascists and of course, Racists or Islamophobes, Soren.  Your problem is you seek justification for what cannot be justified.  You have never been a victim of discrimination.  When you have, get back to us, OK?  I believe everybody deserves a fair go, just as did Prime Minister John Winston Howard (although in truth he mean a fair go only for those that supported the Tories and not of course those that didn't).  ::)


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I am aware of the Catholic/Protestant schism - hardly unique to Australia - but I am asking about the lingering rancour, which I think you display as well.  This is the kind of rancour that the Irish have infected the Aborigines with and are now infecting immigrant groups like the Muslims, Africans, anyone who would buy into their resentment and undying rancour against - what? The English? Protestants? what is eating at your hearts? What would give you peace?

Fairness, Soren.  I know the concept of the Fair Go is alien to you, being a Dane.  However, Australians have learnt the hard way, that without a fair go, they'll never get ahead.  The English hated the idea of the fair go.  Indeed, I really only learnt and understood it myself from my experience in the Army.   Perhaps you should join up?  You know, to get to become a real Australian?  ::)


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Nothing. Rancour is all. That's what I am asking about - the undying resentment of the Irish, even when there is emancipation, peace, equality. The hate and resentment burns on, infecting all who come into contact with it unawares.

As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough.  We created the ideal of the Fair Go for a reason.   When you've worked it out, you might be able to call yourself a "New Australian".   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2019 at 8:25pm:

As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough.

No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 2:53pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 8:25pm: As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough. No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know. Still avoiding the point?  How unsurprising, hey, Soren, you New Australian.  Tsk, tsk, I say the same things to my other immigrant friends when they make the same mistakes you do.  Now, time to get with the flow, time to become a real Australian, you Danish blow-in.  ::)

;D ;D ;D

Welcome to country, Bwian.  Danes made your culture.  Bow down and pay your respects.

Frank wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 7:45pm:

Danes made your culture

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


just how deluded can one person get?

Frank wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 7:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 8:25pm: As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough. No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know. Still avoiding the point?  How unsurprising, hey, Soren, you New Australian.  Tsk, tsk, I say the same things to my other immigrant friends when they make the same mistakes you do.  Now, time to get with the flow, time to become a real Australian, you Danish blow-in.  ::) ;D ;D ;D Welcome to country, Bwian.  Danes made your culture.  Bow down and pay your respects.

I wasn't aware that the Danes were even in Australia before your arrival on the scene,  Soren.  I am 100% Australian.  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 9:07pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 7:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 8:25pm: As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough. No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know. Still avoiding the point?  How unsurprising, hey, Soren, you New Australian.  Tsk, tsk, I say the same things to my other immigrant friends when they make the same mistakes you do.  Now, time to get with the flow, time to become a real Australian, you Danish blow-in.  ::) ;D ;D ;D Welcome to country, Bwian.  Danes made your culture.  Bow down and pay your respects. I wasn't aware that the Danes were even in Australia before your arrival on the scene,  Soren.  I am 100% Australian.  ::)

You are not aware of most things, Bwian. Keep telling you.

You are the 'no dam idea' demographic.

Frank wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 10:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 9:07pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 7:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 8:25pm: As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough. No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know. Still avoiding the point?  How unsurprising, hey, Soren, you New Australian.  Tsk, tsk, I say the same things to my other immigrant friends when they make the same mistakes you do.  Now, time to get with the flow, time to become a real Australian, you Danish blow-in.  ::) ;D ;D ;D Welcome to country, Bwian.  Danes made your culture.  Bow down and pay your respects. I wasn't aware that the Danes were even in Australia before your arrival on the scene,  Soren.  I am 100% Australian.  ::) You are not aware of most things, Bwian. Keep telling you. You are the 'no dam idea' demographic.

Really?  What does that make you then, Soren?  "I'm too concerned what my neighbours are doing when I'm peeking through their window," demographic?  :roll:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21^st, 2019 at 9:07pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 7:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 8:25pm: As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough. No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know. Still avoiding the point?  How unsurprising, hey, Soren, you New Australian.  Tsk, tsk, I say the same things to my other immigrant friends when they make the same mistakes you do.  Now, time to get with the flow, time to become a real Australian, you Danish blow-in.  ::) ;D ;D ;D Welcome to country, Bwian.  Danes made your culture.  Bow down and pay your respects. I wasn't aware that the Danes were even in Australia before your arrival on the scene,  Soren.  I am 100% Australian.  ::)

100% Australian? As Australian as an aborigine?

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 1:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 9:07pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 7:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 8:25pm: As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough. No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know. Still avoiding the point?  How unsurprising, hey, Soren, you New Australian.  Tsk, tsk, I say the same things to my other immigrant friends when they make the same mistakes you do.  Now, time to get with the flow, time to become a real Australian, you Danish blow-in.  ::) ;D ;D ;D Welcome to country, Bwian.  Danes made your culture.  Bow down and pay your respects. I wasn't aware that the Danes were even in Australia before your arrival on the scene,  Soren.  I am 100% Australian.  ::) 100% Australian? As Australian as an aborigine?

Nope.  95% White Fella Australian who has sympathies with Indigenous Australians, unlike yourself, Hammer.  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 4:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 1:35pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 9:07pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 7:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 8:25pm: As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough. No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know. Still avoiding the point?  How unsurprising, hey, Soren, you New Australian.  Tsk, tsk, I say the same things to my other immigrant friends when they make the same mistakes you do.  Now, time to get with the flow, time to become a real Australian, you Danish blow-in.  ::) ;D ;D ;D Welcome to country, Bwian.  Danes made your culture.  Bow down and pay your respects. I wasn't aware that the Danes were even in Australia before your arrival on the scene,  Soren.  I am 100% Australian.  ::) 100% Australian? As Australian as an aborigine? Nope.  95% White Fella Australian who has sympathies with Indigenous Australians, unlike yourself, Hammer.  ::)

You are a virtue-signalling useless two-bit screamer, Bwian. Do you sympathise witb the Aboriginal treatment of women and children, the 40 thousand year rape and violence ethos? The right of elders to rule over pubescent boys and girls on the authority of tribal custom?  I don't.   The sooner they leave the stone age and all its depravities behind the better.  But people like you want to keep them degraded so you can endlessly point to them and blame the white guys for 40 thousand year old practices.

Ridiculous.  Evil, even  - but in your case you are far too thick and ignorant and foggy to be evil. You are just ridiculous.

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 7:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 4:21pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 1:35pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 9:07pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 7:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 8:25pm: As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough. No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know. Still avoiding the point?  How unsurprising, hey, Soren, you New Australian.  Tsk, tsk, I say the same things to my other immigrant friends when they make the same mistakes you do.  Now, time to get with the flow, time to become a real Australian, you Danish blow-in.  ::) ;D ;D ;D Welcome to country, Bwian.  Danes made your culture.  Bow down and pay your respects. I wasn't aware that the Danes were even in Australia before your arrival on the scene,  Soren.  I am 100% Australian.  ::) 100% Australian? As Australian as an aborigine? Nope.  95% White Fella Australian who has sympathies with Indigenous Australians, unlike yourself, Hammer.  ::) You are a virtue-signalling useless two-bit screamer, Bwian. Do you sympathise witb the Aboriginal treatment of women and children, the 40 thousand year rape and violence ethos? The right of elders to rule over pubescent boys and girls on the authority of tribal custom?  I don't.   The sooner they leave the stone age and all its depravities behind the better.  But people like you want to keep them degraded so you can endlessly point to them and blame the white guys for 40 thousand year old practices.

I don't believe such things are still practised by Indigenous Australian people, Soren.  They are illegal and Indigenous Australians are governed by the same laws that you are.  Of course, that doesn't stop white fellas from breaking those laws, though, does it?  Of course, you mentioning them just shows how deep you prejudice runs in your mind, now doesn't it?


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Ridiculous.  Evil, even  - but in your case you are far too thick and ignorant and foggy to be evil. You are just ridiculous.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You really do like playing in your favourite mud patch, don't you, Soren?

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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:26pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 4:21pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 1:35pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 9:07pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 7:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 8:25pm: As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough. No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know. Still avoiding the point?  How unsurprising, hey, Soren, you New Australian.  Tsk, tsk, I say the same things to my other immigrant friends when they make the same mistakes you do.  Now, time to get with the flow, time to become a real Australian, you Danish blow-in.  ::) ;D ;D ;D Welcome to country, Bwian.  Danes made your culture.  Bow down and pay your respects. I wasn't aware that the Danes were even in Australia before your arrival on the scene,  Soren.  I am 100% Australian.  ::) 100% Australian? As Australian as an aborigine? Nope.  95% White Fella Australian who has sympathies with Indigenous Australians, unlike yourself, Hammer.  ::) You are a virtue-signalling useless two-bit screamer, Bwian. Do you sympathise witb the Aboriginal treatment of women and children, the 40 thousand year rape and violence ethos? The right of elders to rule over pubescent boys and girls on the authority of tribal custom?  I don't.   The sooner they leave the stone age and all its depravities behind the better.  But people like you want to keep them degraded so you can endlessly point to them and blame the white guys for 40 thousand year old practices. I don't believe such things are still practised by Indigenous Australian people, Soren.

Well, then you are a more ignorant, stupid, lying and vicious bozo than I ever thought possible.

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2019 at 10:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 9:30pm: Frank wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 7:26pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 4:21pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 1:35pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 9:07pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 7:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm: Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 8:25pm: As I have said, you're not a real Australian, Soren, are you?  You flew here, I grew here.  The Fair Go was embued into my spirit from the moment of my birth.   Australians have done it tough. No doubt you never tire of saying same thing to your Muslim mates and all the other third world immigrants you know. Still avoiding the point?  How unsurprising, hey, Soren, you New Australian.  Tsk, tsk, I say the same things to my other immigrant friends when they make the same mistakes you do.  Now, time to get with the flow, time to become a real Australian, you Danish blow-in.  ::) ;D ;D ;D Welcome to country, Bwian.  Danes made your culture.  Bow down and pay your respects. I wasn't aware that the Danes were even in Australia before your arrival on the scene,  Soren.  I am 100% Australian.  ::) 100% Australian? As Australian as an aborigine? Nope.  95% White Fella Australian who has sympathies with Indigenous Australians, unlike yourself, Hammer.  ::) You are a virtue-signalling useless two-bit screamer, Bwian. Do you sympathise witb the Aboriginal treatment of women and children, the 40 thousand year rape and violence ethos? The right of elders to rule over pubescent boys and girls on the authority of tribal custom?  I don't.   The sooner they leave the stone age and all its depravities behind the better.  But people like you want to keep them degraded so you can endlessly point to them and blame the white guys for 40 thousand year old practices. I don't believe such things are still practised by Indigenous Australian people, Soren.  Well, then you are a more ignorant, stupid, lying and vicious bozo than I ever thought possible.

What you believe is immaterial, Soren.  When you realise that, you might be able to see reality.  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 3:54pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 10:13pm: Well, then you are a more ignorant, stupid, lying and vicious bozo than I ever thought possible. What you believe is immaterial, Soren.  When you realise that, you might be able to see reality.  ::)

I am not a self-centered, self-deluded, vain, ignorant  bozo like you, Bwian  - Aboriginal violence and abuse is not about what I believe, it's about what is actually happening.

2002:
Australian Trends
Since 1996-97, the rates of Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander children where abuse has been substantiated has increased in all states except Tasmania and the ACT. In all states, cases involving Aboriginal children are more likely to be substantiated than cases involving other children. The total number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children subject to substantiations in Australia for the 2000/01 period was 3004. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children comprise 2.7% of children in Australia, yet constitute 20% of those placed in out-of-home care (Cuneen & Libesman 2000). As of June 2001 there were 4,073 Aboriginal children in out of home care. It has also been suggested that the rate of sexual abuse of young Aboriginal girls who are in the Juvenile Justice system is around 80% (Atkinson 1990).



2018
Family violence is worse for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people
Family violence occurs at higher rates for Indigenous Australians than for non-Indigenous Australians. Family violence within Indigenous communities needs to be understood as both a cause and effect of social disadvantage and intergenerational trauma (ABS 2016).

In 2014–15, 1 in 7 (14%) Indigenous women experienced physical violence in the previous year. Of these, about 1 in 4 (28%) reported that their most recent incident was perpetrated by a cohabiting partner (ABS 2016).
From 2012–13 to 2013–14, 2 in 5 Indigenous homicide victims (41%) were killed by a current or previous partner, twice the rate of non-Indigenous victims (22%) (Bryant & Bricknell 2017).
In 2014–15, Indigenous women were 32 times as likely to be hospitalised due to family violence as non-Indigenous women, while Indigenous men were 23 times as likely to be hospitalised as non-Indigenous men (SCRGSP 2016).
In 2015–16, Indigenous children were 7 times as likely to be the subject of substantiated child abuse or neglect as non-Indigenous children (AIHW 2017a).


The Grauniad:

This article is more than 4 years old
Child and domestic abuse in Indigenous communities 'chronically undisclosed'
This article is more than 4 years old
Australian Crime Commission investigation found that in some communities, every person had been affected by child sexual abuse


Your ABC, bozo:

Indigenous women are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised for domestic violence than their non-Indigenous counterparts.





And of course there is tins more info out there and only self-deluded mail-order 'intellectuals' like you have missed them.   What a colossal loon and a joke you are, Bwian.

Frank wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 7:26pm:

I am not a self-centered, self-deluded, vain, ignorant  bozo

wanna bet?

Frank wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 7:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 23rd, 2019 at 3:54pm: Frank wrote on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 10:13pm: Well, then you are a more ignorant, stupid, lying and vicious bozo than I ever thought possible. What you believe is immaterial, Soren.  When you realise that, you might be able to see reality.  ::) I am not a self-centered, self-deluded, vain, ignorant  bozo like you, Bwian  - Aboriginal violence and abuse is not about what I believe, it's about what is actually happening.

What you believe is immaterial, Soren.  When you realise that, you might be able to see reality.   ::) ::)

Ignore the evidence, bozo no 1 (bwian) and bozo no 79 (Pulchinella to Italian clown).

Frank wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2019 at 9:51pm:

Ignore the evidence, bozo no 1 (bwian) and bozo no 79 (Pulchinella to Italian clown).

i haven't ignored the evidence. All the evidence definitely says that you're a self-centered, self-deluded, vain, ignorant  bozo

So the thread has just sunk off topic and abuse
Should we just delete it?

Identity politics IS always off topic and is all about abusing persons in the name of 'identity group', ie, the assigned group they are deemed to belong to.

Identity politics is ALL about erasing personal worth, merit, responsibility, character -  and substituting group membership. That is, a giant leap backwards.

miketrees wrote on Sep 24^th, 2019 at 7:45pm:

So the thread has just sunk off topic and abuse Should we just delete it?

Why not leave it as a memorial to Soren's problems with other peoples' identities?  ::)

Multiculturalism is just soooo wrong:

https://twitter.com/heckyessica/status/1175187378631258117

Getting Over Herself Was Never Really An Option

The last person I had to correct for the misspelling of my name was someone from my own employer, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

So writes journalist – and, it seems, attention-seeker - Tahlea Aualiitia: 

              I was invited to join a panel on representation in pop culture by the ABC News Channel earlier this month, and because the name super (the strap with my name at the bottom of the screen) was added during production, I wasn’t aware my name was spelled incorrectly until after the interview had finished and I was informed by my family and friends.

Faintly ironic, perhaps, at least if you squint. But as claims of victimhood go, and as a basis for an article on how terribly oppressed one is, it needs a little work.

       Typos happen and I understand how a slip of the finger on the keyboard turned my surname from Aualiitia into Auakiitia.

Ah, forgiveness. How refreshing. An apology was forthcoming, too, so I’m sure we’re all ready to move on.

          But while it was the first time I had done a TV interview, it wasn’t the first time I had seen my name spelled wrong in the media.

Scratch that. Incoming.

            Just a month ago, my name was spelled incorrectly by a producer in my own department, the Asia Pacific Newsroom.

Yes, another misspelling of a phonetically unobvious Samoan name. That’s two whole times. A scarring experience, it would seem, one that “can have big impacts among communities that often don’t see themselves reflected in the media.” “I knew I had to call them out,” says Ms Aualiitia, rather proudly.

The next morning, I sent an email to my manager asking to write this piece.

Selflessly, of course, for the greater good.

           It’s no coincidence I’m speaking up about this during the latest wave of the Black Lives Matter movement. It’s hard to explain what racism feels like to someone who has never experienced it.

Oh, come on. You knew it was time for some bizarre dramatic ratcheting.

             For me, it feels like walking around with a big target hanging around my neck.

Someone misspelled her name, you see.

               You don’t know where the next attack — verbal, physical or systemic — might come from, and lived experience means you know it has to do with the colour of your skin.

Systemic name misspelling. It’s a thing now. A racist attack.

               And when you're on a public platform like national TV or social media, it feels like that target triples in size.


A sense of proportion is not, I fear, Ms Aualiitia’s strong suit.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/863040667869745156

Deranged bullies attack a man peacefully holding a sign defending free speech. Social justice activism in 2020.  He's holding a sign that literally just says "the right to openly discuss ideas must be defended."

Let that sink in.

Horse sense illustrated:

https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1302739277382430720


https://twitter.com/sazi_ana/status/1302773751545647105

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2019 at 9:00pm:

Multiculturalism is just soooo wrong:

So when are you going back home to farkoffistan or whatever poo hole you came from?

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2020 at 7:26pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 9:00pm: Multiculturalism is just soooo wrong: So when are you going back home to farkoffistan or whatever poo hole you came from?

Right after you go back to calabria, peasant.

Sad: Man Could Have Been Profoundly Moved By Classic Piece Of Literature If It Had Only Contained A Character Of His Exact Race, Sex, And Socio-Economic Class

COLUMBUS, OH — Sources close to local man Jevon Willis say that the 28-year-old was tragically deprived of the opportunity to be moved by Virgil's "Aeneid" because the classical masterpiece did not contain a character of exactly his race, sex, and socio-economic class.

According to Willis, the "Aeneid," a classic of Roman literature which has instrumentally shaped the entire world, culture, and history of the world Willis inhabits, simply has "nothing to say to him" because it has no characters for him to identify with based on his skin tone and annual income.

"I mean, it might be fine for an ancient Roman affluent male, but I simply can't find myself in the 'Aeneid'," Willis said, dubiously eyeing Virgil's magnum opus as he sipped on a venti mocha with skim and 6 pumps mocha, ex mocha drizzle with whip and half praline crumble, ex ex dark choc curls 2 pumps toasted white mocha ex sugar cookie topping 4 pumps dark caramel crunch double blended and cardamom powder. "I mean, it's like, there's just no way for me to be moved by literature with characters who don't precisely map onto my exact intersectional individuality. That would be kinda like, authorially oppressive normativity or whatever."

Willis admitted that the story was "a little bit interesting" but clarified that it was also "not as good as Percy Jackson."

"It's just hard for me to even understand why Virgil would have wanted to exclude the lived experiences of people like me if he actually wanted to write a universal epic," Willis said, sadly. "How can I see myself represented in the class struggle to overturn the dictatorship of the patrician bourgouise by the Roman proletariat if there isn't even a browner-skin-toned person of modest means playing the pivotal role in the founding of Rome? It just seems kinda exclusionary, that's all."

At publishing time, Willis finally found a character he could identify with in a Latino fanfic reimagining of Stephen King's It.

Frank wrote on Sep 8^th, 2020 at 10:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8th, 2020 at 7:26pm: Frank wrote on Oct 4th, 2019 at 9:00pm: Multiculturalism is just soooo wrong: So when are you going back home to farkoffistan or whatever poo hole you came from? Right after you go back to calabria, peasant.

Unlike you, I was born HERE you dumbarse :D

The latter half of the 2020s will be Western Europe's last meaningful electoral cycle. If "populist" parties are treated by the "mainstream" cabal as they were in the recent Dutch and German elections, there will be no point pinning your hopes on the 2035 vote, because by then we will be past the demographic point of no return and the only means of salvaging France or England, Sweden or Austria will be non-democratic and violent.

Newspapers and think-tanks, guardedly decoding the somewhat obscured official statistics, nevertheless openly speculate on whether the native populations of some of the oldest nation states on earth will become minorities in their own lands by the 2050s or 2060s. The correct answer is, absent mass deportations, somewhat before. In response, so-called "free" societies are ever more brazenly policing their citizens' speech, introducing de facto blasphemy regimes protecting Islam, and planning to mandate "digital ID".

This is a tragedy, and will end very bloodily.

*CENTRAL EUROPE
It is a tribute to the perversity of America's "victory" in the Cold War that such remnants of "the west" as are to be found are now almost exclusively located east of the Iron Curtain. From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, to wax Churchillian, the most peaceful places to be on the Continent - by which I mean more or less stab-free rape-free paedo-free - will be the likes of Poland, Hungary, Slovenia, maybe even Moldova.

Why?

Because they're not full of Muslims.

It isn't difficult. The question is whether they can maintain that advantage in the face of Cruella von der Leyen's determination to turn them into the same busted-arse dumps as the cities of her own country.

The latter half of the 2020s will be Western Europe's last meaningful electoral cycle. If "populist" parties are treated by the "mainstream" cabal as they were in the recent Dutch and German elections, there will be no point pinning your hopes on the 2035 vote, because by then we will be past the demographic point of no return and the only means of salvaging France or England, Sweden or Austria will be non-democratic and violent.

Newspapers and think-tanks, guardedly decoding the somewhat obscured official statistics, nevertheless openly speculate on whether the native populations of some of the oldest nation states on earth will become minorities in their own lands by the 2050s or 2060s. The correct answer is, absent mass deportations, somewhat before. In response, so-called "free" societies are ever more brazenly policing their citizens' speech, introducing de facto blasphemy regimes protecting Islam, and planning to mandate "digital ID".

This is a tragedy, and will end very bloodily.

*CENTRAL EUROPE
It is a tribute to the perversity of America's "victory" in the Cold War that such remnants of "the west" as are to be found are now almost exclusively located east of the Iron Curtain. From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, to wax Churchillian, the most peaceful places to be on the Continent - by which I mean more or less stab-free rape-free paedo-free - will be the likes of Poland, Hungary, Slovenia, maybe even Moldova.

Why?

Because they're not full of Muslims.

It isn't difficult. The question is whether they can maintain that advantage in the face of Cruella von der Leyen's determination to turn them into the same busted-arse dumps as the cities of her own country.


Busted arse dumps is correct.