GetUp hits back at 'extraordinary attack' by the PM

August 17, 2019
The Age


Left-wing lobby group GetUp has slammed Scott Morrison for an "undemocratic attack" on the organisation, after the Prime Minister announced a new crackdown aimed at curtailing its influence before the next federal election.   :(

Mr Morrison used his speech to the Liberal Party's state conference in Adelaide on Saturday to announce a renewed assault on GetUp, blaming the group for "vile, personal attacks on our candidates" in the May poll, describing it as "misogynistic" and "shady".


Prime Minister Scott Morrison has launched a fresh attack on GetUp.

He promised to "revisit GetUp's claim they are politically independent".

GetUp national director Paul Oosting hit back, defending the group's right to engage in political debate and accusing the Prime Minister of trying to set up a "kangaroo court" after the Australian Electoral Commission upheld its independence earlier this year.


Mr Morrison wants the group to be treated as an arm of Labor and the Greens and subjected to the same laws that apply to political parties.

"GetUp have to be accountable for what they say and do," he told reporters on the sidelines of the Liberal party conference on Saturday.

"They want to be in the political space, fine, call yourself a political party. You're against the Liberal party, we get that, that's okay there's no problem with that - just don't pretend you're independent."

The Prime Minister would not give details of how he planned to revisit the question of GetUp's electoral status, saying only that the government would "have more to say about it as time goes on".

Mr Oosting said that forcing the AEC to investigate the group again would be "a political stitch-up and a waste of public money".   :(

“Politics belongs to everyone," he said.


Scott Morrison wants to "revisit" a ruling by the Australian Electoral Commission that GetUp is an independent entity.

Mr Morrison said Australians knew where Liberals stood but that GetUp had not been "straight up" with the public, saying the group was now "a wolf in wolf's clothing" after its actions in the federal election campaign.

Backbench MP Nicolle Flint recently accused GetUp and unions of "creating an environment" where abuse, harassment, intimidation and even stalking became the "new normal" in South Australian politics, but did not offer any direct evidence that GetUp officials had directly carried out that behaviour.

Mr Morrison also referenced GetUp's controversial advertisement depicting Tony Abbott as a lifeguard ignoring pleas to help someone drowning, which the group pulled after a public outcry.

And he sought to link the group with an "anti-Semitic attack" on Treasurer Josh Frydenberg, although GetUp has condemned a legal challenge to the Kooyong MP's constitutional eligibility - based on the Hungarian citizenship of his mother, who fled the Holocaust - as "beyond offensive".

Mr Oosting said none of the events the Prime Minister referred to could be "fairly be attributed to GetUp or our supporters".

“There is no evidence - that’s why the AEC has ruled on three occasions in our favour," he said.

“The Prime Minister is levelling extraordinary attacks on everyday people who participated in politics this election."   :(

Senior Labor frontbencher Mark Butler said GetUp was "very clearly not a political party" and blamed the ongoing scrutiny on "an obsession within the hard-right of the Coalition party room".

"They're not running candidates," Mr Butler said in Adelaide on Saturday.

"There are a range of other third parties that participate in Australia's democracy and they should all be subject to appropriate regulation."

Mr Oosting said GetUp members were "teachers and nurses, mums and dads, students and pensioners" who had spent the election campaign having "heart to heart conversations" with voters.

“Afraid of being challenged or held to account on having no policy on climate change and the lack of support for raising Newstart, [Mr Morrison] is trying to shut down democratic participation, slurring the name of everyday people participating in our politics.   :(

“This would be the fourth attempt by the hard right to shut down independent grassroots campaigning.

ScoMo doesn't like criticism.

If he can't can't stand the heat than get out of kitchen.

isn't scomo supposed to be the bastion of free speech?

Or does that only apply to those who say what he wants?

I'm sure FD will be along shortly to champion Getups rights.

Has SlowMo been taking Trump lessons ?

He promised to "revisit GetUp's claim they are politically independent" ::) ::) ::)


"They want to be in the political space, fine, call yourself a political party. You're against the Liberal party, we get that, that's okay there's no problem with that - just don't pretend you're independent."


so easy!


Mr Morrison also referenced GetUp's controversial advertisement depicting Tony Abbott as a lifeguard ignoring pleas to help someone drowning, which the group pulled after a public outcry. ::) ::)


is that fair INDEPENDENT non bias niceness?





of course you guys think they are A.OK... they think like you do I guess.

It would be difficult to see how getup could be classified as an arm of Labor / the Greens without classifying the more dangerous and less principled news ltd as being a direct associalt of the Liberal party.

News clearly acts as the Liberal party's propaganda arm and have been unscrupulously producing fake news that has dishonestly influenced election results for very many decades.

cods wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:39am:

He promised to "revisit GetUp's claim they are politically independent" ::) ::) ::) "They want to be in the political space, fine, call yourself a political party. You're against the Liberal party, we get that, that's okay there's no problem with that - just don't pretend you're independent." so easy! Mr Morrison also referenced GetUp's controversial advertisement depicting Tony Abbott as a lifeguard ignoring pleas to help someone drowning, which the group pulled after a public outcry. ::) ::) is that fair INDEPENDENT non bias niceness? of course you guys think they are A.OK... they think like you do I guess.

Do you think that News Limited's actions or the ACCI etc to work almost exclusively for the Liberal party in the same political space is A.OK ?... they think like you do I guess.

cods wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:39am:

"They want to be in the political space, fine, call yourself a political party.

by commenting on a political board you are in a 'political space'. Do you call yourself a political party? You do basically the same thing, talk up policies you like and talk down policies you don't like.


the only difference is that getup does it on a much larger scale.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:54am:

cods wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:39am: He promised to "revisit GetUp's claim they are politically independent" ::) ::) ::) "They want to be in the political space, fine, call yourself a political party. You're against the Liberal party, we get that, that's okay there's no problem with that - just don't pretend you're independent." so easy! Mr Morrison also referenced GetUp's controversial advertisement depicting Tony Abbott as a lifeguard ignoring pleas to help someone drowning, which the group pulled after a public outcry. ::) ::) is that fair INDEPENDENT non bias niceness? of course you guys think they are A.OK... they think like you do I guess. Do you think that News Limited's actions or the ACCI etc to work almost exclusively for the Liberal party in the same political space is A.OK ?... they think like you do I guess.

but they dont dna.. even they said LABOR WILL WIN AND DESERVE TOO... :) :) :)

just sayin like   they also promoted KRUDD and Co...

did I hear you say the SMH backed the Libs... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

dont mind that has nothing to do with the op dna...  ;) ;)

Personally I don't like groups like GetUp simply because we don't know who is behind them.

It's a good way for the oligarchy for example to tear down or lift up which ever politician has ignored them or promised them things respectively.

I say they and anyone else like them have to go.

exactly Ajax  as we see with just about any group that evolves because of MORALs   ::) ::) or so called ethics.. the Greens for example  they get taken over by activists who are hell bent on destroying our fair go system.

what GET UP did in the last election was extraordinary   it was BAD beyond belief....all those posters   ugly and not the way we do things at all..

Ajax wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:04am:

Personally I don't like groups like GetUp simply because we don't know who is behind them. It's a good way for the oligarchy for example to tear down or lift up which ever politician has ignored them or promised them things respectively. I say they and anyone else like them have to go.

You mean like advance australia?

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

Ajax wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:04am: Personally I don't like groups like GetUp simply because we don't know who is behind them. It's a good way for the oligarchy for example to tear down or lift up which ever politician has ignored them or promised them things respectively. I say they and anyone else like them have to go. You mean like advance australia? Spot

Please explain............????

What do you mean....!!!

cods wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:13am:

exactly Ajax  as we see with just about any group that evolves because of MORALs   ::) ::) or so called ethics.. the Greens for example  they get taken over by activists who are hell bent on destroying our fair go system. what GET UP did in the last election was extraordinary   it was BAD beyond belief....all those posters   ugly and not the way we do things at all..

The Abbott example comes to mind.

Not that I was a fan but that shouldn't happen imo.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

Ajax wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:04am: Personally I don't like groups like GetUp simply because we don't know who is behind them. It's a good way for the oligarchy for example to tear down or lift up which ever politician has ignored them or promised them things respectively. I say they and anyone else like them have to go. You mean like advance australia? Spot

And the Institute of Public Affairs.

About a dozen Libs are paid-up members of the IPA. Going after Getup! is not a can of worms the PM wants to open. The Libs' links to the IPA will also come under scrutiny.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

Ajax wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:04am: Personally I don't like groups like GetUp simply because we don't know who is behind them. It's a good way for the oligarchy for example to tear down or lift up which ever politician has ignored them or promised them things respectively. I say they and anyone else like them have to go. You mean like advance australia? Spot

GET UP got Zali into govt... 

who has Advance Australia got into govt?

just so we know whos managing who!

Bam wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:24am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:14am: Ajax wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:04am: Personally I don't like groups like GetUp simply because we don't know who is behind them. It's a good way for the oligarchy for example to tear down or lift up which ever politician has ignored them or promised them things respectively. I say they and anyone else like them have to go. You mean like advance australia? Spot And the Institute of Public Affairs. About a dozen Libs are paid-up members of the IPA. Going after Getup! is not a can of worms the PM wants to open. The Libs' links to the IPA will also come under scrutiny.

but where are the ads they pay for and ugly posters bam...

getup was very much in everyone faces in Warringah..

they spent a huge amount to get rid of Tony?.....and didnt care how low they went..

I havent seen anything like it before to be honest >:(

Oh I see now.

If they are involved in unseating politicians while promoting others as with GetUp and Abbott then yes I'm against them.

The oligarchy is very cunning flying banners that would polarize most of us.

https://i.ibb.co/pPvxStL/aa.jpg

cods wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:54am: cods wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:39am: He promised to "revisit GetUp's claim they are politically independent" ::) ::) ::) "They want to be in the political space, fine, call yourself a political party. You're against the Liberal party, we get that, that's okay there's no problem with that - just don't pretend you're independent." so easy! Mr Morrison also referenced GetUp's controversial advertisement depicting Tony Abbott as a lifeguard ignoring pleas to help someone drowning, which the group pulled after a public outcry. ::) ::) is that fair INDEPENDENT non bias niceness? of course you guys think they are A.OK... they think like you do I guess. Do you think that News Limited's actions or the ACCI etc to work almost exclusively for the Liberal party in the same political space is A.OK ?... they think like you do I guess. but they dont dna.. even they said LABOR WILL WIN AND DESERVE TOO... :) :) :) just sayin like   they also promoted KRUDD and Co... did I hear you say the SMH backed the Libs... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

News Ltd have put at least 4 Liberal governments into power probably more that would have lost without them.

This is about 10 grades above anything getup has done.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:33am:

cods wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:57am: Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:54am: cods wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:39am: He promised to "revisit GetUp's claim they are politically independent" ::) ::) ::) "They want to be in the political space, fine, call yourself a political party. You're against the Liberal party, we get that, that's okay there's no problem with that - just don't pretend you're independent." so easy! Mr Morrison also referenced GetUp's controversial advertisement depicting Tony Abbott as a lifeguard ignoring pleas to help someone drowning, which the group pulled after a public outcry. ::) ::) is that fair INDEPENDENT non bias niceness? of course you guys think they are A.OK... they think like you do I guess. Do you think that News Limited's actions or the ACCI etc to work almost exclusively for the Liberal party in the same political space is A.OK ?... they think like you do I guess. but they dont dna.. even they said LABOR WILL WIN AND DESERVE TOO... :) :) :) just sayin like   they also promoted KRUDD and Co... did I hear you say the SMH backed the Libs... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D News Ltd have put at least 4 Liberal governments into power probably more that would have lost without them. This is about 10 grades above anything getup has done.

bullshit    why dont you see that thats not the case  even more so with KRUDD   I was very disappointed with the DT the way they supported Krudd before he was elected...

tell us about SMH and how unbiased they are...or cant you find anything... ;D ;D ;D ;D

With GetUp it makes the Monica Lewinskys of this world redundant....... :o :D ;) :)

It's more about the king slayer than the **** sucker, if you know what I mean.... ::)

cods wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

bullshit    why dont you see that thats not the case

because that is exactly the case. You can shove your head up your arse all you want.

I have always been a swing voter. However, you cannot deny that GetUp is not a grassroots organisation, and is affiliated with both Labor and the Greens.

Also, their tactics at the last election were disgusting.

They only target conservative Liberal MPs, and the vitriol directed at people like Tony Abbott, Nicolle Flint, Andrew Hastie and Greg Hunt were repulsive.

However, I wouldn’t worry too much about them because clearly nobody listened.

There were several members on their hit list and the only one that lost was Abbott, but that was most likely nothing to do with them.

Bam wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:24am:

And the Institute of Public Affairs.

Is that like the left leaning think tanks?

"Australian

Australian Fabian Society
The Australia Institute
Australian Policy Online
Australian Review of Public Affairs
Catalyst
Centre for Australian Progress
Centre for Policy Development
Evatt Foundation
John Cain Foundation
Lowy Institute
McKell Institute
The Monthly
New Matilda
ON LINE Opinion
Parliament of Australia
Per Capita
Whitlam Institute"

https://www.chifley.org.au/links/

From the Chifley Research Centre so it must be true.

Poor Bammy can't see past the logs he has in both eyes. ;)

Wasn't Get Up originally part funded in Australia by Soros via intermediaries?

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 11:31am:

Bam wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:24am: And the Institute of Public Affairs. Is that like the left leaning think tanks? "Australian Australian Fabian Society The Australia Institute Australian Policy Online Australian Review of Public Affairs Catalyst Centre for Australian Progress Centre for Policy Development Evatt Foundation John Cain Foundation Lowy Institute McKell Institute The Monthly New Matilda ON LINE Opinion Parliament of Australia Per Capita Whitlam Institute" https://www.chifley.org.au/links/ From the Chifley Research Centre so it must be true. Poor Bammy can't see past the logs he has in both eyes. ;) Wasn't Get Up originally part funded in Australia by Soros via intermediaries?

Hahahaha so parliament of australia is left leaning huh? and even sillier a think tank?

BTW cant load your link cause some crap pops up and wont let me past

Spot

Quote:

......... GetUp’s foreign interference Some interesting players in the field of overseas foreign interference through the ‘GetUp-Gateway’ have so far been discovered.   A combination of national and international players appears to be linked to the organization, challenging their claims of ‘independence’! Open Societies Foundation, Avaaz, Australian Trade Unions, 350.org, The Sunrise Project, Mackay Conservation Group, Greenpeace, Australian Youth Climate Coalition, The Labor Party, The Greens Party, Market Forces and the Center for American Progress, have all been identified in our research. Missing from this list are political parties, industries and corporations from the conservative side of politics.       .........

https://shootersunion.com.au/get-up-exposed-who-are-they/

cods wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:33am: cods wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:57am: Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:54am: cods wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:39am: He promised to "revisit GetUp's claim they are politically independent" ::) ::) ::) "They want to be in the political space, fine, call yourself a political party. You're against the Liberal party, we get that, that's okay there's no problem with that - just don't pretend you're independent." so easy! Mr Morrison also referenced GetUp's controversial advertisement depicting Tony Abbott as a lifeguard ignoring pleas to help someone drowning, which the group pulled after a public outcry. ::) ::) is that fair INDEPENDENT non bias niceness? of course you guys think they are A.OK... they think like you do I guess. Do you think that News Limited's actions or the ACCI etc to work almost exclusively for the Liberal party in the same political space is A.OK ?... they think like you do I guess. but they dont dna.. even they said LABOR WILL WIN AND DESERVE TOO... :) :) :) just sayin like   they also promoted KRUDD and Co... did I hear you say the SMH backed the Libs... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D News Ltd have put at least 4 Liberal governments into power probably more that would have lost without them. This is about 10 grades above anything getup has done. bullshit    why dont you see that thats not the case  even more so with KRUDD   I was very disappointed with the DT the way they supported Krudd before he was elected... tell us about SMH and how unbiased they are...or cant you find anything... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Very occasionally News get caught with the commercial reality that their is nothing that they can do about the result and that to continue their support of the Liberals will only hurt their product and sales. This tends to happen about once every 20 years.

They never supported Rudd they just didn't enthusiastically support his opposition after they found that it wasn't working and day one after the election they started undermining his government.

tell us about SMH and how unbiased they are


The SMH may have a leaning but they primarily report the news - Unlike the Telegraph they are not part of the political landscape, they do not work to put their party into power.

cods wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:26am:

Bam wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:24am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:14am: Ajax wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:04am: Personally I don't like groups like GetUp simply because we don't know who is behind them. It's a good way for the oligarchy for example to tear down or lift up which ever politician has ignored them or promised them things respectively. I say they and anyone else like them have to go. You mean like advance australia? Spot And the Institute of Public Affairs. About a dozen Libs are paid-up members of the IPA. Going after Getup! is not a can of worms the PM wants to open. The Libs' links to the IPA will also come under scrutiny. but where are the ads they pay for and ugly posters bam... getup was very much in everyone faces in Warringah.. they spent a huge amount to get rid of Tony?.....and didnt care how low they went.. I havent seen anything like it before to be honest >:(

This went out in large scale distribution - nobody could get away from it.

https://images.theconversation.com/files/28809/original/mnj3rnnf-1375837269.jpg

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 11:47am:

Quote: ......... GetUp’s foreign interference Some interesting players in the field of overseas foreign interference through the ‘GetUp-Gateway’ have so far been discovered.   A combination of national and international players appears to be linked to the organization, challenging their claims of ‘independence’! Open Societies Foundation, Avaaz, Australian Trade Unions, 350.org, The Sunrise Project, Mackay Conservation Group, Greenpeace, Australian Youth Climate Coalition, The Labor Party, The Greens Party, Market Forces and the Center for American Progress, have all been identified in our research. Missing from this list are political parties, industries and corporations from the conservative side of politics.       ......... https://shootersunion.com.au/get-up-exposed-who-are-they/

Im sure theres no ban on conservatives joining - why would they want to?

Spot

2016 Election:

Notice the list of lies in the scare campaign ???

Funny that it lines up with the Liberal party scare campaign - coincidence ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD48HKQVoAApCZ7.jpg

https://images.theconversation.com/files/28880/original/d98r4kkm-1375923352.jpg

Notice a trend?  - this is all bullshit it didn't happen right ?

https://www.thepaperboy.com/frontpages/archive/Daily_Telegraph_31_1_2013.jpg

There will only be one Party in Der Reich, and it will be the Party to which all political activists belong, without question... in that way they are free to express their views, even in opposing the government, without fear of being excluded and persecuted.

Der SchwarzerPartie Of Recognised Independence will be under the same umbrella... thus will equality of representation be created in der Vaterland and freedoms guaranteed by the Bureau Of Political Inclusion.

This is my command,


Der Fuhrer,
Scott Morrison.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 11:46am:

Hahahaha so parliament of australia is left leaning huh? and even sillier a think tank?

You would have to ask chifley org about that. They are the ones maintain the website.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 11:46am:

BTW cant load your link cause some crap pops up and wont let me past

The link loads. The cross in the corner (edit: Of the pop up) doesn't work and you can get rid of crap by pressing the "Esc" key.

It is not my problem what websites do wrong in their programming structure. ;)



Your welcome. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 1:00pm:

You would have to ask chifley org about that.

so you just copy paste crap without even reading it to see if you agree with it? :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 2:04pm:

so you just copy paste crap without even reading it to see if you agree with it?

I am happy to try to inform you. Should I try for more?

"The Chifley Research Centre is the Australian Labor Party’s official think tank."

Source: wiki

So perhaps the Labor Party should tell them they need to do better. And of course it is Labor Party "crap". ;)

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 2:04pm:

lee wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 1:00pm: You would have to ask chifley org about that. so you just copy paste crap without even reading it to see if you agree with it? :D :D :D

Lee has a long record of not agreeing with his posts. That is how he so routinely asks people to show where he said that. It is always someone else's belief.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 2:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 2:04pm: so you just copy paste crap without even reading it to see if you agree with it? I am happy to try to inform you. Should I try for more? "The Chifley Research Centre is the Australian Labor Party’s official think tank." Source: wiki So perhaps the Labor Party should tell them they need to do better. And of course it is Labor Party "crap". ;)

Can you link this with the topic ? Just like to understand what you think you are saying is all.

Chifley centre is a Labor think tank.  So what ?

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 2:36pm:

Chifley centre is a Labor think tank.  So what ?

Poor petal.

I linked it because Bammy found one Right wing think tank. Just providing even commentary. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 2:36pm: Chifley centre is a Labor think tank.  So what ? Poor petal. I linked it because Bammy found one Right wing think tank. Just providing even commentary. ;)

Right wing thought sounds possible in theory.

In my view get-up have every right to be involved in an independant fashion. There is no connection to any specific political party.

Do you have a view.

john_g wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 11:31am:

I have always been a swing voter. However, you cannot deny that GetUp is not a grassroots organisation, and is affiliated with both Labor and the Greens. Also, their tactics at the last election were disgusting. They only target conservative Liberal MPs, and the vitriol directed at people like Tony Abbott, Nicolle Flint, Andrew Hastie and Greg Hunt were repulsive. However, I wouldn’t worry too much about them because clearly nobody listened. There were several members on their hit list and the only one that lost was Abbott, but that was most likely nothing to do with them.

Quote:

I have always been a swing voter. However, you cannot deny that GetUp is not a grassroots organisation, and is affiliated with both Labor and the Greens.

I think the vast majority could easily deny. There is no connection between them and either Labor or the greens.

Did you know that get up have even run campaigns against Labor policy ? No I thought not.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 2:58pm:

Do you have a view.

yes. Get Up can do what they want. However they should repudiate Soros and any other overseas funding via intermediaries.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 2:29pm:

Lee has a long record of not agreeing with his posts.

Oh you think I should only post things that I agree with? ;D ;D ;D

I do it to inform petal and provide balance. And you especially seem to need it. ;)
Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 2:29pm:

hat is how he so routinely asks people to show where he said that. It is always someone else's belief.

Well if someone can't show I have said something and indeed I have not said something; someone is obviously mistaken at best - a liar at worst. I leave that judgement up to others. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 2:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 2:04pm: so you just copy paste crap without even reading it to see if you agree with it? I am happy to try to inform you. Should I try for more? "The Chifley Research Centre is the Australian Labor Party’s official think tank." Source: wiki So perhaps the Labor Party should tell them they need to do better. And of course it is Labor Party "crap". ;)

you didn't answer my question. Do you often copy paste crap without reading it to see if you agree with it?

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 3:33pm:

you didn't answer my question. Do you often copy paste crap without reading it to see if you agree with it?

I post things I don't necessarily agree with to provide balance. And often.

You however only ever post stuff you agree with. That is a bias. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

If anyone should lose their independent status it is the IPA....


Quote:

The IPA and climate change In an interview with the Sydney Morning Herald, IPA Executive Director John Roskam confirmed the IPA's key role in supporting Australian climate sceptics. '"Of all the serious sceptics in Australia, we have helped and supported just about all of them in their work one way or another," he says, listing some prominent figures on the local circuit. "Ian Plimer - we launched his book - Bob Carter, Jo Nova, William Kininmonth."' In 2008, the institute facilitated a donation of $350,000 by Dr G. Bryant Macfie, a climate change sceptic, to the University of Queensland for environmental research. The money, which was routed via the IPS, was to fund three environmental doctoral projects with the IPA suggesting two of the three agreed topics. George Bryant Macfie was described as a "medical doctor and philanthropist" and a "long-standing IPA member." Announcing the grant, Macfie complained that "environmental activism" was akin to a new religion infecting science. "The crucifix has been replaced by the wind turbine," he said. The topics for the research included an examination of agricultural practices and chemical usage and the effectiveness of banning tree-clearing in Australia as a way to store carbon. At the time Macfie held 634,846 shares in Strike Resources Limited, making him one of the was a top 20 shareholders. (By 2010, Macfie had increased his shareholding to 800,000 shares, representing .615% of the company's shares.) Strike Resources is a Perth-based mineral exploration company which is seeking to develop an iron project in Peru and the Berau Thermal Coal Project in Indonesia. In 2011, the institute paid for hundreds of copies of Ian Plimer's book How to get expelled from school: a guide to climate change for pupils, parents and punters to be sent to Australian schools. The IPA and the Murray River For all their talk of 'transparency' though, the IPA has beem embroiled in controversy over failure to disclose funders of its work. In June 2004 it was revealed that Australia's largest irrgation company, Murray Irrigation Limited, contributed $40,000 to the IPA. The IPA's environment unit director Jennifer Marohasy played a critical role in persuading a government committee to overturn recommendations to increase the volume of water released into the Murray River. However, Marohasy did not disclose the donation to the committee. When asked by the Australian Financial Review about the MIL donation, Marohasy would not confirm or deny whether she knew about the donation while writing her report or giving evidence to the committee. She said she did not take "an interest in who funds IPA". IPA executive director Mike Nahan stated the donation did not affect the organisation's position. While Nahan stated in late 2003 that the names of donors would be revealed, the information is still not disclosed on the organisations website. In June 2006, Bill Hetherington, Chairman of Murray Irrigation Ltd from 1995 to 2005 - including the period when Murray Irrigation Ltd was a major funder of the IPA - was appointed to the IPA's board of management.

::) ::) ::)

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_of_Public_Affairs

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 3:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 3:33pm: you didn't answer my question. Do you often copy paste crap without reading it to see if you agree with it? I post things I don't necessarily agree with to provide balance. And often. You however only ever post stuff you agree with. That is a bias. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

That all sounds fine and dandy, but in this instance there was nothing to agree or disagree with. You were only trying to provide a list of left leaning think tanks.
You didn't even read it you lying turd.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 3:54pm:

You however only ever post stuff you agree with. That is a bias. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

that doesn't even make sense. You were posting a list of think tanks. In many cases I don't agree with right wing think tanks, are you saying I won't list any RWTT's? You should just admit you didn't read it and give up before you make a bigger fool of yourself. :D :D :D

oh noes. Source watch? Next you'll be citing from that other great blog DeSmog that was set up by a convicted internet gaming fraudster Lefebvre and giving that credence. ;) ;) ;) ;)

And they shouldn't be allowed to fund climate sceptics because? ;D ;D ;D ;D

In other news Nature Magazine recently published a "peer-reviewed" "research" "study" which not only named names but also got a lot of them wrong. Seems they are liable to Fraud, Libel and Breach of Privacy provisions of the law.

Any serious study doesn't generally publish names of participants for privacy reasons.

Nature Magazine has pulled the Supplementary Material after publication.

It seems Nature magazine is in breach of its own code of ethics, and the peer-reviewers failed to adequately study the material to find any of the discrepancies.  The peer-reviewers are also supplied by Nature magazine.

It seems that climate sceptics have been getting too much press. Pretty hard for what is "3%" as claimed. :)

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

that doesn't even make sense.

Only to you petal.


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

In many cases I don't agree with right wing think tanks, are you saying I won't list any RWTT's?

Because you are a left wing warrior and don't want to give air to them petal. ;)
John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

You should just admit you didn't read it and give up before you make a bigger fool of yourself

poor petal. Really, really hard for you to admit they stuff things up, isn't it? ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

You were only trying to provide a list of left leaning think tanks.

And I successfully did that petal. Straight from Chifley.org.au the Labor Party's leading think tank. ;)

Not my fault they believe the Parliament of Australia is a left leaning think tank. ;)

maybe they haven't updated the list since 2013.

The Coalition need to be impartial when they look at associated entities....Why is Get Up singled out when Conservative organisation which do not disclose their donors (Get Up does) are not scrutinised???


Quote:

Examples of associated entities include ‘500 clubs’, ‘think tanks’, registered clubs, service companies, trade unions and corporate party members. Associated Entities are required to lodge an Associated Entity Disclosure Return by 20 October each year. Presumably, the intent of the legislation is disclosure and transparency. That individuals, groups and corporations have to disclose if they are a partisan entity ‘operating wholly or to a significant extent for the benefit of one or more registered political parties.’ The 2015/16 Associated Entity Summary – Annual Returns is an interesting read. Whilst it is a veritable who’s who of Unions, and some companies, there are notable omissions. The Australian Bankers Association, the Minerals Council of Australia, the Business Council of Australia, the Australian Hotels Association, the Institute of Public Affairs, the Australian Christian Lobby (the list would be endless) don’t get a mention. All of these groups are ‘conservative’ entities that openly advocate for their member’s interests. Which is fair enough. Just like unions advocating for their member’s interests. All of these groups are frequently cited in ‘supportive’ arguments for like-minded ‘conservative’ governments. Which is fair enough. Just like unions are often cited in ‘supportive’ arguments for like-minded ‘progressive’ governments. All of these groups are active and vocal participants in our political arena. And they are unashamedly partisan. After all, they are beneficiaries of generous government consideration. But they are not “Associated Entities”. Their achievements include getting rid of the carbon levy, the mining tax, any suggestion of a Royal Commission into corporate malfeasance. And so on. But none of these groups are “Associated Entities”. Most Unions are. Another aspect of the Liberal ‘complaint’ is that GetUp recently appointed two new Directors to their Board, both of whom have ‘Labor ties’. The cross membership of the IPA and the Liberal party, not to mention the endless supply of IPA muppets in the media, is, apparently, no cause for concern.

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https://theaimn.com/getup-vs-ipa/

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:20pm:

Only to you petal.

no, it doesn't make sense to anyone who can follow a conversation.



lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:20pm:

Because you are a left wing warrior and don't want to give air to them petal.

Are you saying bam isn't a left wing warrior, or are you saying you're an idiot?


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:20pm:

really hard for you to admit they stuff things up

apparently it's not as hard as it is for you to admit you stuffed up



lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:23pm:

And I successfully did that petal

no you didn't. You failed. Only an idiot would list parliament as a left wing think tank.


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:23pm:

Not my fault they believe the Parliament of Australia is a left leaning think tank

and yet you were the one who listed them as such here. :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

Are you saying bam isn't a left wing warrior, or are you saying you're an idiot?

Are you trying to put words in my mouth about bam, petal? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

apparently it's not as hard as it is for you to admit you stuffed up

But I didn't petal; I posted the think tanks in their entirety according to chifley house. ;)


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

no you didn't. You failed. Only an idiot would list parliament as a left wing think tank.

So now you are saying chifley house are idiots, seeing as it is on their web page. ;)


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

and yet you were the one who listed them as such here.

Exactly petal. As listed by one of your own leftist entities. Your time may be better spent sending them an email to correct it. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:59pm:

Are you trying to put words in my mouth about bam, petal?

I'm trying to make sense of your stupidity.


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:59pm:

But I didn't petal;

sure you did. YOU listed it as a left wing think tank. Your sources are your problem, not mine.


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:59pm:

So now you are saying chifley house are idiots, seeing as it is on their web page

if they claim parliament is a LWTT, then that's exactly what i think, yes.


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:59pm:

Exactly petal.

it was never in doubt


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:59pm:

As listed by one of your own leftist entities

its not one of my entities. It's YOUR source. You are responsible for the stupidity you post, not me.



lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 4:59pm:

Your time may be better spent sending them an email to correct it.

why would I? I've never even googled them for anything. They're your source, you email them.

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:03pm:

YOU listed it as a left wing think tank.

No petal. I posted what was on Labor Party's leading think tanks website. The list is theirs.


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:03pm:

if they claim parliament is a LWTT, then that's exactly what i think, yes.

What do you mean IF petal. Haven't you checked their website for veracity?  Oh dear. Talk about pontificating from a position of ignorance. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:03pm:

its not one of my entities. It's YOUR source. You are responsible for the stupidity you post, not me.

And yet you haven't even checked the veracity of what I posted. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:03pm:

why would I? I've never even googled them for anything. They're your source, you email them.

It's your side of the political divide petal. I don't care what they post, but I am willing to take the piss out of them when they get it wrong. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 11:31am:

Bam wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:24am: And the Institute of Public Affairs. Is that like the left leaning think tanks? "Australian Australian Fabian Society The Australia Institute Australian Policy Online Australian Review of Public Affairs Catalyst Centre for Australian Progress Centre for Policy Development Evatt Foundation John Cain Foundation Lowy Institute McKell Institute The Monthly New Matilda ON LINE Opinion Parliament of Australia Per Capita Whitlam Institute" https://www.chifley.org.au/links/ From the Chifley Research Centre so it must be true. Poor Bammy can't see past the logs he has in both eyes. ;) Wasn't Get Up originally part funded in Australia by Soros via intermediaries?

Are you a liar or just stupid snowflake....It does not state these are left leaning think tanks, it states "Progressive organisations, think-tanks and policy resources" so why misrepresent their status....Do you have any links to support the claim Soros originally funded Get Up snowflake???

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lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:34pm:

I posted what was on Labor Party's leading think tanks website. The list is theirs.

your sources are your problem, not mine YOU listed it as a left wing think tank


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:34pm:

What do you mean IF petal. Haven't you checked their website for veracity?

No I haven't checked. I told you, i've never so much as goggled their web site. Even a smidgeoan of common sense would tell you parliament is not a left wing think tank.
Perhaps you should have checked it before you copy pasted it. :D :D


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:34pm:

And yet you haven't even checked the veracity of what I posted

you really need a website to tell you whether parliament is or is not a left wing think tank? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:34pm:

I don't care what they post,

you care enough to copy paste their spiel and use it as a source. ;D ;D


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:34pm:

but I am willing to take the piss out of them when they get it wrong.

just as i am willing to take the piss out of youwhen you get it wrong. The difference being they don't give a sh1t what you think, you on the other hand care greatly that you made a fool of yourself



philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:56pm:

Are you a liar or just stupid snowflake....It does not state these are left leaning think tanks, it states

I'd say it's a little from column A and  Little from column B

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 5:56pm:

.It does not state these are left leaning think tanks, it states "Progressive organisations, think-tanks and policy resources" so why misrepresent their status.

So the progressive chifley house is nor leftist and neither are the progressive chifley house endorsed think tanks? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

"Generally, progressive organizations fall along the left side of the political spectrum and might be described as "liberal," "left wing" or even "humanistic."  "

https://classroom.synonym.com/the-definition-of-progressive-organizations-12080792.html

Continuing the education of the left. ;)

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:16pm:

YOU listed it as a left wing think tank

<<Sigh>> I POSTED it petal. The LIST is theirs. Talk about cognitive dysfunction.


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:16pm:

No I haven't checked.

So you are pontificating from a position of ignorance. A position you hold remarkably well. ;)


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:16pm:

you really need a website to tell you whether parliament is or is not a left wing think tank?

Chifley House is telling you that petal. Oh dear. So boring.


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:16pm:

you care enough to copy paste their spiel and use it as a source.

I have to do something to try to relieve your reliance on ignorance.


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:16pm:

I'd say it's a little from column A and  Little from column B

Please see my further education piece. ;)

Anyone would think there was something wrong with being left leaning, given the amount of denial. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

I POSTED it petal

yes. Your post therefore your list. Your source is your problem, not mine


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

So you are pontificating from a position of ignorance.

no. I typically don't check blatantly obvious claims. If you feel you need to google to know if parliament is a left wing think tank, then that highlights your ignorance, not mine. Tell me, do you need to google to know if water is wet or not? Or is it just the role of parliament that stumps you?



lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

Chifley House is telling you that petal.

no, according to you, they told you that, not me. Cheifly house has never told me anything.


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

I have to do something to try to relieve your reliance on ignorance.

you list parliament as a left wing think tank and I'm ignorant?  ;D ;D ;D ;D  Not very good at this are you.


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

Please see my further education piece

OK, now it's 40% liar and 60% stupid snowflake.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:39pm:

Anyone would think there was something wrong with being left leaning, given the amount of denial. ;)

you've already proven you don't think. Don't start now, as your comment already shows, after all these years without it I'm not so sure you'll be able to handle it.

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

Your post therefore your list

No petal. But keep trying


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

I typically don't check blatantly obvious claims.

It is good to know that you accept the claim as "blatantly obvious". ;)


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

Cheifly house has never told me anything.

Where is this Cheifly house? ;D ;D ;D ;D


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

you list parliament as a left wing think tank and I'm ignorant?

Yes petal. because you agree Chifley house has said it and then say it is my fault. ;D ;D ;D ;D


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

OK, now it's 40% liar and 60% stupid snowflake.

Poor petal. On the losing end again. That makes him 100% ignorant. ;)

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

you've already proven you don't think. Don't start now, as your comment already shows, after all these years without it I'm not so sure you'll be able to handle it.

Is that the best you could do petal? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

cods wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:26am:

Bam wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:24am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:14am: Ajax wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:04am: Personally I don't like groups like GetUp simply because we don't know who is behind them. It's a good way for the oligarchy for example to tear down or lift up which ever politician has ignored them or promised them things respectively. I say they and anyone else like them have to go. You mean like advance australia? Spot And the Institute of Public Affairs. About a dozen Libs are paid-up members of the IPA. Going after Getup! is not a can of worms the PM wants to open. The Libs' links to the IPA will also come under scrutiny. but where are the ads they pay for and ugly posters bam... getup was very much in everyone faces in Warringah.. they spent a huge amount to get rid of Tony?.....and didnt care how low they went.. I havent seen anything like it before to be honest >:(

How many GetUp! members are current members of Parliament?

Conservatives are just butthurt that the conservative think tanks can no longer run amok without being scrutinised.

Conservatives are not opposed to political think tanks in general, just progressive ones. Have you noticed how they don't get flustered about the IPA?

Bam wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:35pm:

Conservatives are not opposed to political think tanks in general, just progressive ones. Have you noticed how they don't get flustered about the IPA?

That's funny. Please tell us how you managed to deduce that. Nothing has been said about them, merely that they exist.

But the IPA is apparently very bad. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The slimy GetUp! is a terrorist group controlled by hostile overseas activists.

juliar wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:38pm:

The slimy GetUp! is a terrorist group controlled by hostile overseas activists.

I remember that day when you posted something of value.

Like all Lefties DNA prefers to dwell in a musty world of half truths and downright lies. He is scared of FACTS and the TRUTH.

You would think they would have learnt something from the election when the voters shoved lying little Shorty into a garbage bag.

GetUp!'s traitorous activities during the election were clearly of a terrorist nature.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 6:44pm: you list parliament as a left wing think tank and I'm ignorant?  Yes petal. because you agree Chifley house has said it and then say it is my fault. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Progressive organisations, think-tanks and policy resources:


This is the heading that Chifley house has on top of that list, Lee's assertion that parliament house was listed as a left wing think tank was not exactly honest.

Lee misrepresented the list in the very beginning.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:08pm:

It is good to know that you accept the claim as "blatantly obvious". Wink

no, I called you on your claim as soon as I saw it. It was you who accepted their claim, not me.


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:08pm:

Yes petal. because you agree Chifley house has said it and then say it is my fault

I haven't agreed to anything other then you listed it as a LWTT. You've been told three times already, I've never even seen chifleys website. All I know is that you are the one claiming they said it.


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:08pm:

On the losing end again

i wasn't the one who listed parliament as a LWTT ;D ;D ;D

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:55pm:

lee wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 7:08pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 6:44pm: you list parliament as a left wing think tank and I'm ignorant?  Yes petal. because you agree Chifley house has said it and then say it is my fault. ;D ;D ;D ;D Progressive organisations, think-tanks and policy resources: This is the heading that Chifley house has on top of that list, Lee's assertion that parliament house was listed as a left wing think tank was not exactly honest. Lee misrepresented the list in the very beginning.

lee spends all his time on here misrepresenting everyone and everything. ;)

juliar wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:45pm:

Like all Lefties DNA prefers to dwell in a musty world of half truths and downright lies. He is scared of FACTS and the TRUTH. You would think they would have learnt something from the election when the voters shoved lying little Shorty into a garbage bag. GetUp!'s traitorous activities during the election were clearly of a terrorist nature.

As a primary poster of conspiracy theories and well just dumb junk you view on what constitutes a fact is seriously lacking.

Poor DNA is shaken by my disclosure of the TRUTH and is furiously going into the standard Lefty Deny and Lie mode.

GetUp! will be squashed by the ScoMo monolith as it is clearly an anti Australian terrorist group being controlled and funded by hostile overseas groups. 

Just consider their treasonous activities during last election when they helped ScoMo to triumph as the voters were disgusted by the hostile activities of these slimy GetUp! terrorists.


The Coalition is looking at introducing rules to ban those who are not attached to a registered party or independent candidate from spruiking outside polling booths.

This could restrict GetUp in future elections, who turned up at polling booths nationwide to campaign against conservative politicians.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has called their actions on election day “deceptive”, “undemocratic” and “unrepresentative”.

Energy Minister Angus Taylor tells Chris Smith GetUp volunteers showed up to a polling booth in his electorate at south Goulburn.

“We saw a GetUp volunteer arrive and start saying ‘vote one GetUp’.

“They can’t work out whether they’re a political party or they’re just trying to influence the outcome.

“GetUp needs to decide what it is and needs to be accountable for that.”

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:55pm:

This is the heading that Chifley house has on top of that list, Lee's assertion that parliament house was listed as a left wing think tank was not exactly honest.

Progressive organisations are generally leftleaning as the reference I posted said. Therefore they are leftleaning think tanks. Parliament House is on the list.


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

"Generally, progressive organizations fall along the left side of the political spectrum and might be described as "liberal," "left wing" or even "humanistic."  " https://classroom.synonym.com/the-definition-of-progressive-organizations-120807...

Why do you find the need to cover old ground?

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:57pm:

called you on your claim as soon as I saw it. It was you who accepted their claim, not me.

But you said it was "blatantly obvious". ;)

So therefore you accepted they had it on their list.

Why do you find this need to reinvent the wheel?.


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:57pm:

I haven't agreed to anything other then you listed it as a LWTT. You've been told three times already, I've never even seen chifleys website. All I know is that you are the one claiming they said it.

You have said it was "blatantly obvious". Perhaps you meant it was "blatantly obvious" that they hadn't said it. ;)


John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:57pm:

i wasn't the one who listed parliament as a LWTT

You have agreed it was "blatantly obvious". Perhaps your definition is different. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 5:56pm: .It does not state these are left leaning think tanks, it states "Progressive organisations, think-tanks and policy resources" so why misrepresent their status. So the progressive chifley house is nor leftist and neither are the progressive chifley house endorsed think tanks? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Nothing to do with what I posted snowflake....I never claimed anything either way dickhead??? "Generally, progressive organizations fall along the left side of the political spectrum and might be described as "liberal," "left wing" or even "humanistic."  " So what relevance does this have....Meaningless diatribe that means nothing???

The Parliament of Australia is obviously a policy resource (how could anyone apart from snowflake believe the Parliament of Australia is a left leaning think tank) as may well be other organisations listed....Which means nothing to the thread as Get Up were not on the list anyway....More stupidity from the resident snowflake!!!

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John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 7:58pm:

lee spends all his time on here misrepresenting everyone and everything.

Poor petal. So you didn't say "I typically don't check blatantly obvious claims"? ;D ;D ;D ;D

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:45pm:

The Parliament of Australia is obviously a policy resource as may well be other organisations listed..

You mean all those progressive one's petal? ;)

You do note the didn't include the IPA as a policy resource? If they were genuine it would be included just for inclusivity, except of course it is not a progressive resource. But no, it is biased left.;D ;D ;D ;D


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:45pm:

Which means nothing to the thread as Get Up were not on the list anyway.

And as I said the IPA didn't make it either. But they get a mention in the thread. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 7:55pm: This is the heading that Chifley house has on top of that list, Lee's assertion that parliament house was listed as a left wing think tank was not exactly honest. Progressive organisations are generally leftleaning as the reference I posted said. Therefore they are leftleaning think tanks. Parliament House is on the list.

Once again - this it the lists title :


Quote:

Progressive organisations, think-tanks and policy resources:

Fairly obvious that Parliament house comes under a policy resource and not a think tank ?

Obvious that you either didn't read what you posted, didn't understand what you read or chose to try to mislead those dumb enough to read your post.

It has got to the point where anything you post needs to be checked for accuracy and honesty, this was a cut and paste job and still you mislead by leaving out most of the title line.

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:25am:

isn't scomo supposed to be the bastion of free speech? Or does that only apply to those who say what he wants? I'm sure FD will be along shortly to champion Getups rights.

I will. They are not a  political party anymore than the right wing think tanks are. I'm signed up with them and I ignore anything from them I disagree with. They have every right as any group of citizens to push for what they think is right. All they are is a co-op of citizens and they have every right to have their say.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

Fairly obvious that Parliament house comes under a policy resource and not a think tank ?

So now you are reading the mind of the list assembler? Well done Sir. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

It has got to the point where anything you post needs to be checked for accuracy and honesty, this was a cut and paste job and still you mislead by leaving out most of the title line.

Poor petal. The Wailing Wall is 10 metres to the left. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:51pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:45pm: The Parliament of Australia is obviously a policy resource as may well be other organisations listed.. You mean all those progressive one's petal? ;) You do note the didn't include the IPA as a policy resource? If they were genuine it would be included just for inclusivity, except of course it is not a progressive resource. But no, it is biased left. What connection does the IPA have to Chifley House snowflake....It does also not mention the Minerals council of Australia or the Australian institute....You post is incoherent bullshit with no relevance to the thread....Chifley House obviously does not use the IPA (not surprising) as a policy resource yet you claim if Chifley House was genuine they would list them anyway....You are an idiot snowflake!!! philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:45pm: Which means nothing to the thread as Get Up were not on the list anyway. And as I said the IPA didn't make it either. But they get a mention in the thread. ;)

The IPA get a mention because they are linked the the Liberal party and are not held to anywhere near the same standard as Get Up....You are the one trying to link the IPA to Chifley house nobody else....Why would Chifley House have to recognise the IPA snowflake???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:05pm:

The IPA get a mention because they are linked the the Liberal party and are not held to anywhere near the same standard as Get Up....You are the one trying to link the IPA to Chifley house nobody else..

Because they are  left leaning? ;D ;D ;D ;D
No petal. but gooooood try. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:57pm: Fairly obvious that Parliament house comes under a policy resource and not a think tank ? So now you are reading the mind of the list assembler? Well done Sir. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:57pm: It has got to the point where anything you post needs to be checked for accuracy and honesty, this was a cut and paste job and still you mislead by leaving out most of the title line. Poor petal. The Wailing Wall is 10 metres to the left. ;)

Quote:

So now you are reading the mind of the list assembler?

You would only need half the IQ of a dead wombat to come to this very obvious conclusion. It is in fact quacking like a duck.

There is an item in the list that exactly matches one and only one of the categories in the title. Arguing the semantics of a 10 year old neither changes this nor would be persuasive to anyone.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:12pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:05pm: The IPA get a mention because they are linked the the Liberal party and are not held to anywhere near the same standard as Get Up....You are the one trying to link the IPA to Chifley house nobody else.. Because they are  left leaning? No petal. but gooooood try.

The IPA is not associated with Chifley House....Why should they list them snowflake???

:-? :-? :-?

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

You would only need half the IQ of a dead wombat to come to this very obvious conclusion

So you have a quarter the IQ of a dead Wombat? ;)


Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

It is in fact quacking like a duck.

I can't hear it from here. Must be your super hearing along with your super intuitiveness.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:13pm: You would only need half the IQ of a dead wombat to come to this very obvious conclusion So you have a quarter the IQ of a dead Wombat? ;) Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:13pm: It is in fact quacking like a duck. I can't hear it from here. Must be your super hearing along with your super intuitiveness.

You should pull your pants up and find another ploy to divert the topic.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

lee wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:01pm: Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:57pm: Fairly obvious that Parliament house comes under a policy resource and not a think tank ? So now you are reading the mind of the list assembler? Well done Sir. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:57pm: It has got to the point where anything you post needs to be checked for accuracy and honesty, this was a cut and paste job and still you mislead by leaving out most of the title line. Poor petal. The Wailing Wall is 10 metres to the left. ;) Quote: So now you are reading the mind of the list assembler? You would only need half the IQ of a dead wombat to come to this very obvious conclusion. It is in fact quacking like a duck. There is an item in the list that exactly matches one and only one of the categories in the title. Arguing the semantics of a 10 year old neither changes this nor would be persuasive to anyone.

Unless the Liberal Party is a left leaning think tank aligned to Chifley House I think it is obvious to anyone with half a brain that the reference to the Parliament of Australia is a policy resource....Still nothing to do with Get Up and another bullshit deflection from the resident snowflake!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

Still nothing to do with Get Up and another bullshit deflection from the resident snowflake!!!

And yet it is you that draw that inference on no material fact. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Never mind petal.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

You should pull your pants up and find another ploy to divert the topic.

Perhaps it was your purple prose. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

But you said it was "blatantly obvious". ;) So therefore you accepted they had it on their list. Why do you find this need to reinvent the wheel?.

what was blatantly obvious is that you're a moron who didn't even read what he had posted .



Quote:

You have said it was "blatantly obvious".

that you were a moron? yes, we've covered this already



Quote:

You have said it was "blatantly obvious".

do you think repeating your stupidity will make it sound better?


lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:46pm:

Poor petal. So you didn't say "I typically don't check blatantly obvious claims"? ;D ;D ;D ;D

i'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve apart from highlighting what a moron you are ;D ;D

Setanta wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:25am: isn't scomo supposed to be the bastion of free speech? Or does that only apply to those who say what he wants? I'm sure FD will be along shortly to champion Getups rights. I will. They are not a  political party anymore than the right wing think tanks are. I'm signed up with them and I ignore anything from them I disagree with. They have every right as any group of citizens to push for what they think is right. All they are is a co-op of citizens and they have every right to have their say.

i agree.

Now lets see what fd says.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

You would only need half the IQ of a dead wombat to come to this very obvious conclusion

that rules LEE out

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:13pm: You would only need half the IQ of a dead wombat to come to this very obvious conclusion that rules LEE out

And quite a few Coalition supporters (and MPs).  I'm cool with people of differing opinions but to see either deliberate ignorance or lies over science that they trot out... inexcusable.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:20pm: Unless the Liberal Party is a left leaning think tank aligned to Chifley House I think it is obvious to anyone with half a brain that the reference to the Parliament of Australia is a policy resource....Still nothing to do with Get Up and another bullshit deflection from the resident snowflake!!! And yet it is you that draw that inference on no material fact.

What does Get Up have to do with Chifley House and why should they have to list them as an associate of any kind snowflake....You are dribbling bullshit as usual snowflake???

:-? :-? :-?

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

i'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve apart from highlighting what a moron you are

Poor petal. Can't even explain his "blatantly obvious" quote. It is "blatantly obvious" he doesn't have the necessary wherewithal to explain himself in English. A second language perhaps?

Bye petal.

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

that rules LEE out

ooh JS nearly cracked a funny. Keep trying petal. You may get there one day. ;)

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:54pm:

What does Get Up have to do with Chifley House and why should they have to list them as an associate of any kind snowflake.

Another of your leaps of "logic"? I have never even intimated that. You do understand what intimated means?

Getup vs IPA.

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lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 8:51pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:45pm: The Parliament of Australia is obviously a policy resource as may well be other organisations listed.. You mean all those progressive one's You do note they didn't include the IPA as a policy resource? If they were genuine it would be included just for inclusivity, except of course it is not a progressive resource. But no, it is biased left. philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:45pm: Which means nothing to the thread as Get Up were not on the list anyway. And as I said the IPA didn't make it either. But they get a mention in the thread.

Why should Chifley House list the IPA as a policy resource.....What does Chifley House have to do with Get Up....Deflection and irrelevant bullshit is your stock and trade hey snowflake....Get Up had been found to be independent by the AEC 4 times already....What has changed snowflake???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:24pm:

lee wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:51pm: philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:45pm: The Parliament of Australia is obviously a policy resource as may well be other organisations listed.. You mean all those progressive one's You do note they didn't include the IPA as a policy resource? If they were genuine it would be included just for inclusivity, except of course it is not a progressive resource. But no, it is biased left. philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:45pm: Which means nothing to the thread as Get Up were not on the list anyway. And as I said the IPA didn't make it either. But they get a mention in the thread. Why should Chifley House list the IPA as a policy resource.....What does Chifley House have to do with Get Up....Deflection and irrelevant bullshit is your stock and trade hey snowflake....Get Up had been found to be independent by the AEC 4 times already....What has changed snowflake??? :-? :-? :-?

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Get Up had been found to be independent by the AEC 4 times already....What has changed snowflake

As per usual I do not think that Lee has posted an original position anywhere on this topic, you just always get the impression that he has.

He may have a personal opinion but he sure as hell isn't going to share it with anyone here.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:36pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:24pm: lee wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:51pm: philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:45pm: The Parliament of Australia is obviously a policy resource as may well be other organisations listed.. You mean all those progressive one's You do note they didn't include the IPA as a policy resource? If they were genuine it would be included just for inclusivity, except of course it is not a progressive resource. But no, it is biased left. philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:45pm: Which means nothing to the thread as Get Up were not on the list anyway. And as I said the IPA didn't make it either. But they get a mention in the thread. Why should Chifley House list the IPA as a policy resource.....What does Chifley House have to do with Get Up....Deflection and irrelevant bullshit is your stock and trade hey snowflake....Get Up had been found to be independent by the AEC 4 times already....What has changed snowflake??? :-? :-? :-? Quote: Get Up had been found to be independent by the AEC 4 times already....What has changed snowflake As per usual I do not think that Lee has posted an original position anywhere on this topic, you just always get the impression that he has. He may have a personal opinion but he sure as hell isn't going to share it with anyone here.

The snowflake is almost incoherent with his deflection and posts that are irrelevant to the thread....It also ignores posts that exposes his stupidity and refuses to back up his claims....

ie:
Lee ranted....

Quote:

You do note the didn't include the IPA as a policy resource? If they were genuine it would be included just for inclusivity, except of course it is not a progressive resource. But no, it is biased left.

When Lee was challenged....

Philperth wrote....

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Why should Chifley House list the IPA as a policy resource.....What does Chifley House have to do with Get Up

Crickets....The snowflake is a dickhead!!!

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The slimy GetUp! is dog meat now after their terrorist activities during the last election.

GetUp! is now regarded with disgust by the decent voters who shoved lying little Shorty into a garbage bag.

The treacherous anti Australian GetUp! is controlled and funded by hostile foreign groups.

GetUp! is a fraud masquerading as non political and taking "non political" donations from the unions when it is really part of the Labor Party.

ScoMo has GetUp! in his sights.

This seems to have drifted strangly but basically Lee posted a list he said was of left think tanks and parliament of Australia was included on the list

Spot

GetUp! stinks!!!


https://i.postimg.cc/GhGPqwMD/Getup-Follow-their-money-trail.jpg
There are hostile foreign tentacles all through the slimy GetUp!.

But ScoMo's right onto them.


https://i.postimg.cc/ryfy3Qmw/getup8-o.jpg

The AEC has only ruled on this in February....Why is Morriscum wasting taxpayers money to shut down free speech....The bloke is a rambling flake???


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Win for GetUp! as Electoral Commission rules it's not formally linked to Labor or the Greens

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February 18, 2019
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/win-for-getup-as-electoral-commission-rules-it-s-not-formally-linked-to-labor-or-the-greens-20190218-p50ymk.html

Oh but Philly you are full of false hope or just naive.

See ScoMo now has a friendly SENATE after he bribed all of the critical "independents" lining their own wheel barrows.

And he now has ample evidence of GetUp!'s terrorist activities after last election where GetUp! spilled their guts out on the ground and blew their cover and disgraced themselves and disgusted the voters.

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:03am:

The AEC has only ruled on this in February....Why is Morriscum wasting taxpayers money to shut down free speech....The bloke is a rambling flake??? Quote: Win for GetUp! as Electoral Commission rules it's not formally linked to Labor or the Greens ::) ::) ::) February 18, 2019 https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/win-for-getup-as-electoral-commission-rules-it-s-not-formally-linked-to-labor-or-the-greens-20190218-p50ymk.html

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Win for GetUp! as Electoral Commission rules it's not formally linked to Labor or the Greens

90 % of Australians could have told them that for free ?

Any other claim is a joke.

Get up have a similar connection to the left as News Limited have to the right only way less effective, way more principled and way less dangerous.

GetUp! is just the fraudulent political propaganda arm of the union controlled Labor Party.

juliar wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:12am:

Oh but Philly you are full of false hope or just naive. See ScoMo now has a friendly SENATE after he bribed all of the critical "independents" lining their own wheel barrows. And he now has ample evidence of GetUp!'s terrorist activities after last election where GetUp! spilled their guts out on the ground and blew their cover and disgraced themselves and disgusted the voters.

Quote:

See ScoMo now has a friendly SENATE after he bribed all of the critical "independents" lining their own wheel barrows.

It is unbelievable how often you look at dishonesty, corruption and incompetence but see it as a positive.

DNA, shocked and nervous at the FACTUAL AND TRUTHFUL exposure of the slimy fraudulent GetUp! political propaganda arm of the Labor Party, flies into the standard Lefty deny and lie routine.

juliar wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:15am:

GetUp! is just the fraudulent political propaganda arm of the union controlled Labor Party.

Stop making up scurrilous lies.

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:03am:

The AEC has only ruled on this in February....Why is Morriscum wasting taxpayers money to shut down free speech....The bloke is a rambling flake??? Quote: Win for GetUp! as Electoral Commission rules it's not formally linked to Labor or the Greens ::) ::) ::) February 18, 2019 https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/win-for-getup-as-electoral-commission-rules-it-s-not-formally-linked-to-labor-or-the-greens-20190218-p50ymk.html

Now the AEC should make a ruling regarding the IPA.

GetUp was always a response to the money that was always send by the Truck load to support the conservatives.

Now that someone had found a way to crowd fund the left and play their own silly games back against the conservatives they lose their mind.

Either they fight all the lobby groups or none.  Just targeting the ones that you don't like because they don't support you, spreading lies about them like some do here, it's only advocating for more class divisions and bought policy and politicians.

Nah mates, we should be advocating for less of that, not more.

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:53pm:

Philperth wrote.... Quote: Why should Chifley House list the IPA as a policy resource.....What does Chifley House have to do with Get Up Crickets....The snowflake is a dickhead!!!

Chifley House does not have to do anything it doesn't want to. But I guess that is beyond you.

I haven't even attempted to link Chifley House and Get Up. That is all in your own tiny little mind. Why do you make this sh!t up?

BTW- I am not your personal servant and don't have to wait on you hand and foot. I answer in my own time. Bye

Gosh the Kangyroo has changed her moniker.

GetUp! is just the fraudulent political propaganda arm of the union controlled Labor Party and is controlled and funded by hostile foreign groups.

GetUp! fraudulently takes political donations from the unions AND from its hostile foreign controllers.

Gender swapped and childish and petty insults, Juliar, you forgot to call me a GREENY and ANGRY.

Are you saying that the standard you're setting for GetUp! and the left should be applied to both sides, including those that GetUp! was formed in response to who help and fund the Liberal Party?

Or do you just want to attack the left and protect the right, as usual?

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 11:39am:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:53pm: Philperth wrote.... Quote: Why should Chifley House list the IPA as a policy resource.....What does Chifley House have to do with Get Up Crickets....The snowflake is a dickhead!!! Chifley House does not have to do anything it doesn't want to. But I guess that is beyond you. I haven't even attempted to link Chifley House and Get Up. That is all in your own tiny little mind. Why do you make this sh!t up? BTW- I am not your personal servant and don't have to wait on you hand and foot. I answer in my own time. Bye

Where did I accuse you of trying to link Chifley House to Get Up snowflake....I said Get Up has no association....I never accused you of saying they did???

Why post this then which was my question dickhead???

Lee ranted....

Quote:

You do note the didn't include the IPA as a policy resource? If they were genuine it would be included just for inclusivity, except of course it is not a progressive resource. But no, it is biased left.

You are not even responding to the post you quoted you deceitful wanker!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

Where did I accuse you of trying to link Chifley House to Get Up snowflake.

Oh you mean you asked that question because I hadn't mentioned it? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 10:24pm:

What does Chifley House have to do with Get Up

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

You are not even responding to the post you quoted you deceitful wanker!!!

Poor petal. Lost in the realms of his own nether regions. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 1:43pm:

Gender swapped and childish and petty insults, Juliar, you forgot to call me a GREENY and ANGRY. Are you saying that the standard you're setting for GetUp! and the left should be applied to both sides, including those that GetUp! was formed in response to who help and fund the Liberal Party? Or do you just want to attack the left and protect the right, as usual?

Let him find the fish first.

https://youtu.be/gf0nL8lOWbQ

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 2:19pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:08pm: Where did I accuse you of trying to link Chifley House to Get Up snowflake. Oh you mean you asked that question because I hadn't mentioned it? I asked the question because you brought Chifley House into the topic....Why snowflake??? philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:24pm: What does Chifley House have to do with Get Up philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:08pm: You are not even responding to the post you quoted you deceitful wanker!!!

You part quote and then take the comment out of context....I never said you tried to link Get Up to Chifley house did I....I asked what has Get Up got to do with Chifley House....SFA hey snowflake....You were the one who brought Chifley house into the topic and tried to make something out of nothing....Why bring Chifley House into the topic which is why I inquired what has Get Up got to do with Chifley House....You are a deceitful dickhead but just not very smart???


What about this comment snowflake....
Lee ranted....

Quote:

You do note the didn't include the IPA as a policy resource? If they were genuine it would be included just for inclusivity, except of course it is not a progressive resource. But no, it is biased left.

:-? :-? :-?

One Party States always work like that.... all political ideas and forces work so much better under one roof... that's the idea ....

Morrison obviously has no idea of how comparable he is to say, a Hitler or a Stalin....

How do we get these people in politics?  Maybe they need to do a statutory course first on what their actual job entails and what the limits are on their powers and also on their rights and prerogatives.......

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

One Party States always work like that.... all political ideas and forces work so much better under one roof... that's the idea .... Morrison obviously has no idea of how comparable he is to say, a Hitler or a Stalin.... How do we get these people in politics?  Maybe they need to do a statutory course first on what their actual job entails and what the limits are on their powers and also on their rights and prerogatives.......

Something I've always supported.

Some basic to intermediate training in governance and the Australian political system, before they can even nominate to run in an election.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 2:52pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:44pm: One Party States always work like that.... all political ideas and forces work so much better under one roof... that's the idea .... Morrison obviously has no idea of how comparable he is to say, a Hitler or a Stalin.... How do we get these people in politics?  Maybe they need to do a statutory course first on what their actual job entails and what the limits are on their powers and also on their rights and prerogatives....... Something I've always supported. Some basic to intermediate training in governance and the Australian political system, before they can even nominate to run in an election.

Not sure it would make a difference when 50% of them cannot even work out what nationality they are and then we re-elect the ones too stupid to get it right in the first place.

When we reward stupidity like this we only get what we deserve.

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 2:38pm:

You part quote and then take the comment out of context.

When I went to skool (sic) the bits between full stops was a full sentence. It stands on its own merit   -  or dies. ;)


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 2:38pm:

I asked what has Get Up got to do with Chifley House.

Why when I never mentioned them in relation to Chifley House? ::)


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 2:38pm:

You were the one who brought Chifley house into the topic and tried to make something out of nothing....Why bring Chifley House into the topic which is why I inquired what has Get Up got to do with Chifley House..

So you admit you have nothing to link them to me.  And so then I tried to make something out of the nothing that I never proposed. ;D ;D ;D

That's good I am glad we cleared that up.

Poor petal. Your grades in school must have been really bad. ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:38pm: You part quote and then take the comment out of context. When I went to skool (sic) the bits between full stops was a full sentence. It stands on its own merit   -  or dies. ;) Then you need a new education.....Never heard of context snowflake which you continuously misrepresent??? philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:38pm: I asked what has Get Up got to do with Chifley House. Why when I never mentioned them in relation to Chifley House? ::) So you were deflecting and wasting everyone's time....Thank's for admitting you are a troll snowflake....Mentioning Chifley House was irrelevant bullshit!!! philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 2:38pm: You were the one who brought Chifley house into the topic and tried to make something out of nothing....Why bring Chifley House into the topic which is why I inquired what has Get Up got to do with Chifley House.. So you admit you have nothing to link them to me.  And so then I tried to make something out of the nothing that I never proposed. What a drongo....You were the idiot who introduced Chifley House into the topic about Get Up SO it is incumbent on you to explain why....I have asked what the relevance is snowflake and your reply is nothing....It was you trying to make something out of nothing....What a dickhead and waste of time....Go back to kindi loser!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 5:32pm:

Never heard of context snowflake which you continuously misrepresent???

Yes Petal.perhaps you can show the misrepresentation. ;D ;D ;D ;D


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 5:32pm:

So you were deflecting and wasting everyone's time...

Since I never mentioned them I can hardly have been deflecting. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 5:32pm:

You were the idiot who introduced Chifley House into the topic about Get Up SO it is incumbent on you to explain why..

OOh incumbent filly has a new word. Remember it was in reply to bam about the IPAand right wing orgs. You are such a duffer. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 5:32pm:

.It was you trying to make something out of nothing...

That is merely your muddle headed assumption. I am not liable for those.


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 5:32pm:

Go back to kindi loser!!!

keep up with the cheap theatrics. it so droll.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:43pm: that rules LEE out ooh JS nearly cracked a funny. Keep trying petal. You may get there one day. ;)

except it was never meant to be funny.  ::)

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

except it was never meant to be funny.

There you go the accidental comedian. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 6:35pm: except it was never meant to be funny.  There you go the accidental comedian. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

better than you, the deliberate moron

GetUp! is just the fraudulent political propaganda arm of the union controlled Labor Party and is controlled and funded by hostile foreign groups.

GetUp! fraudulently takes political donations from the unions AND from its hostile foreign controllers.

GetUp! sealed its fate and soiled its nest with its shameful terrorist activities at the last election.

Now ScoMo is going to tip it into the garbage bin.

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

better than you, the deliberate moron

But I, like you have made no claims to comedy. So yours is inadvertent. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Gosh Lee and Mr Smith are having a barney.

juliar wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 7:08pm:

Gosh Lee and Mr Smith are having a barney.

No I am having fun at his expense.

juliar wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

GetUp! is just the fraudulent political propaganda arm of the union controlled Labor Party and is controlled and funded by hostile foreign groups. GetUp! fraudulently takes political donations from the unions AND from its hostile foreign controllers. GetUp! sealed its fate and soiled its nest with its shameful terrorist activities at the last election. Now ScoMo is going to tip it into the garbage bin.

And we've been stunned into silence with the evidence you've posted to support this claim.

Oh wait, no we haven't, because it's just a conservative false narrative.

Something something greeny, something something anger...

Heavens to Murgatroyd!  HopaLong the Greeny Kangyroo is after me!!!!

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:03am:

The AEC has only ruled on this in February....Why is Morriscum wasting taxpayers money to shut down free speech....The bloke is a rambling flake??? Quote: Win for GetUp! as Electoral Commission rules it's not formally linked to Labor or the Greens ::) ::) ::) February 18, 2019 https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/win-for-getup-as-electoral-commission-rules-it-s-not-formally-linked-to-labor-or-the-greens-20190218-p50ymk.html

6 Months ago the AEC ruled in Get Up's favour for the 4th time....Why is this dickhead PM wasting time, resources and taxpayers money trying to silence free speech....All Australian's should be outraged their democracy is being eroded by secrecy and silencing decent....Scummo is a rambling idiot but he is a dangerous rambling idiot???

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philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 7:50pm:

Why is this dickhead PM wasting time, resources and taxpayers money trying to silence free speech.

Get google to give them No 1 spot. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 7:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:03am: The AEC has only ruled on this in February....Why is Morriscum wasting taxpayers money to shut down free speech....The bloke is a rambling flake??? Quote: Win for GetUp! as Electoral Commission rules it's not formally linked to Labor or the Greens ::) ::) ::) February 18, 2019 https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/win-for-getup-as-electoral-commission-rules-it-s-not-formally-linked-to-labor-or-the-greens-20190218-p50ymk.html 6 Months ago the AEC ruled in Get Up's favour for the 4th time....Why is this dickhead PM wasting time, resources and taxpayers money trying to silence free speech....All Australian's should be outraged their democracy is being eroded by secrecy and silencing decent....Scummo is a rambling idiot but he is a dangerous rambling idiot??? ::) ::) ::)

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:08pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:50pm: Why is this dickhead PM wasting time, resources and taxpayers money trying to silence free speech. Get google to give them No 1 spot.

More deflection and irreverent dribble from the resident snowflake....Your comment is as worthless to the debate as you are....Cannot deny the facts so try to deflect and deny....How pathetic!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

More deflection and irreverent dribble from the resident snowflake.

I have long been irreverent. ;D ;D ;D ;D


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

Your comment is as worthless to the debate as you are

What debate petal. You are conducting a monologue. ;)


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

.Cannot deny the facts so try to deflect and deny.

Where have I tried to deny anything petal. Your  leap of "logic" again? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:50pm: philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:03am: The AEC has only ruled on this in February....Why is Morriscum wasting taxpayers money to shut down free speech....The bloke is a rambling flake??? Quote: Win for GetUp! as Electoral Commission rules it's not formally linked to Labor or the Greens ::) ::) ::) February 18, 2019 https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/win-for-getup-as-electoral-commission-rules-it-s-not-formally-linked-to-labor-or-the-greens-20190218-p50ymk.html 6 Months ago the AEC ruled in Get Up's favour for the 4th time....Why is this dickhead PM wasting time, resources and taxpayers money trying to silence free speech....All Australian's should be outraged their democracy is being eroded by secrecy and silencing decent....Scummo is a rambling idiot but he is a dangerous rambling idiot??? ::) ::) ::) lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:08pm: philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 7:50pm: Why is this dickhead PM wasting time, resources and taxpayers money trying to silence free speech. Get google to give them No 1 spot. More deflection and  irrelevant dribble from the resident snowflake....Your comment is as worthless to the debate as you are....Cannot deny the facts so try to deflect and deny....How pathetic!!! ::) ::) ::)

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:22pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:13pm: More deflection and irrelevant dribble from the resident snowflake. I have long been irrelevant. philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:13pm: Your comment is as worthless to the debate as you are What debate petal. You are conducting a monologue. So you are not trying to debate the issue you are trolling....How pathetic??? philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:13pm: .Cannot deny the facts so try to deflect and deny. Where have I tried to deny anything petal? The fact Get Up are not an associated entity of Labor and the Greens and if you are not denying that then you agree with me and the AEC....Which is it snowflake???

Why do you bother snowflake....You are not denying Get Up are not an associated entity of Labor and the Greens so the debate is over....Scummo is a dickhead who is trying to use taxpayers money to shut down free speech....How many times does he have to be told he is wrong???

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philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:41pm:

You are not denying Get Up are not an associated entity of Labor and the Greens so the debate is over...

I never said that they were to start with petal.  ;D ;D ;D ;D


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Scummo is a dickhead who is trying to use taxpayers money to shut down free speech..

Well at least you have an opinion petal. ;D ;D ;D ;D

But it reminds me of Conroy's internet filter plan. ;)


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:41pm:

How many times does he have to be told he is wrong???

Probably the same number as you. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:41pm: You are not denying Get Up are not an associated entity of Labor and the Greens so the debate is over... I never said that they were to start with.  Good....Scummo is wasting everyone's time like you snowflake!!! philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:41pm: Scummo is a dickhead who is trying to use taxpayers money to shut down free speech.. Well at least you have an opinion. Unlike you snowflake who has no idea what so ever!!! philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:41pm: How many times does he have to be told he is wrong??? Probably the same number as you. But I am not wrong am I snowflake....Get Up are not an associated entity of Labor and the Greens....Scummo is a liar and a dickhead!!!

Now we have cleared that up and confirmed that Get Up is not an associated entity of Labor and the Greens it is time to refer the IPA to the AEC and watch Scummo scramble to save the furniture???

:) :) :)

BTW- An addendum to my prevoius.

Remember Conroy' Internet Filter? Isn't that censorship? No cries from you then.


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Now we have cleared that up and confirmed that Get Up is not an associated entity of Labor and the Greens it is time to refer the IPA to the AEC and watch Scummo scramble to save the furniture???

Go for it petal. That really should be a good belly laugh. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

If you want add the Australia Institute and  a few others. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

Remember Conroy' Internet Filter? Isn't that censorship? No cries from you then.

I never commented either way snowflake....What does this have to do with Scummo trying to shut down free speech....Are you upset because Conroy took away your child porn you creep???


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Conroy abandons mandatory ISP filtering Tells ISPs to filter child abuse material using INTERPOL block list. The Federal Government has formally abandoned plans to introduce legislation for mandatory ISP filtering, closing a dark chapter in politics concerning Australia's internet. Instead, internet service providers will be directed by the Government and the Australian Federal Police to block "child abuse websites" that feature on an INTERPOL block list. Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said in a statement that "Australia's largest ISPs have been issued notices requiring them to block these illegal sites in accordance with their obligations under the Telecommunications Act 1997".

So what's your problem with blocking child porn sites snowflake....Do you consider it an assault on your free (child porn) speech???

:-? :-? :-?

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/conroy-abandons-mandatory-isp-filtering-322333

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

I never commented either way snowflake....What does this have to do with Scummo trying to shut down free speech...

It is still censorship petal..So you agree with some censorship but not others.

BTW - I haven't seen it posted anywhere tht he wants to close them down. Another of your famous leaps of "logic"?


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

Are you upset because Conroy took away your child porn you creep???

No but I saw your name on the list. ;)


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

So what's your problem with blocking child porn sites snowflake.

None at all petal. you?

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

It is still censorship petal..So you agree with some censorship but not others. BTW - I haven't seen it posted anywhere that he wants to close them down.

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Conroy abandons mandatory ISP filtering Tells ISPs to filter child abuse material using INTERPOL block list. The Federal Government has formally abandoned plans to introduce legislation for mandatory ISP filtering, closing a dark chapter in politics concerning Australia's internet. Instead, internet service providers will be directed by the Government and the Australian Federal Police to block "child abuse websites" that feature on an INTERPOL block list. Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said in a statement that "Australia's largest ISPs have been issued notices requiring them to block these illegal sites in accordance with their obligations under the Telecommunications Act 1997". "The Australian Federal Police will now begin issuing notices to smaller ISPs and will work closely to assist them in meeting their obligation under Australian law and prevent their services being used for illegal activities," Conroy said.

I agree with shutting down child exploitation sites and I do not think it is censorship because the material is illegal....What is your problem with shutting down these sites snowflake....Scared of losing your kiddie porn you creep???

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https://www.itnews.com.au/news/conroy-abandons-mandatory-isp-filtering-322333

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

I agree with shutting down child exploitation sites and I do not think it is censorship because the material is illegal...

Poor petal. It is still censorship even if for the greater good. ::)


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

What is your problem with shutting down these sites snowflake....Scared of losing your kiddie porn you creep???

Damn. That cognitive dissonance again.


lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

philperth2010 wrote Today at 7:13pm: So what's your problem with blocking child porn sites snowflake. None at all petal. you?

You real need to learn to comprehend.


philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Scared of losing your kiddie porn you creep???

Sorry petal mine went to your address apparently. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

It is still censorship petal..So you agree with some censorship but not others. BTW - I haven't seen it posted anywhere that he wants to close them down.

No he wants them classified as being part of Labor / The Greens politically. Something which you have said is untrue as would any sane person.

Strewth! Lee and Philly are still at it.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:

No he wants them classified as being part of Labor / The Greens politically.

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Scummo is a dickhead who is trying to use taxpayers money to shut down free speech

I guess phil must be mistaken. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:19pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:01pm: No he wants them classified as being part of Labor / The Greens politically. philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:41pm: Scummo is a dickhead who is trying to use taxpayers money to shut down free speech I guess phil must be mistaken. ;)

You put the proposition of closing them down - that is different. The Libs would love to shut down their free speech and have said as much.


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GetUp could face curbs on its right to campaign in elections as the Morrison government considers introducing rules to restrict spruikers outside polling booths to volunteers who are attached to registered parties and independent candidates.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:36pm:

Quote: GetUp could face curbs on its right to campaign in elections as the Morrison government considers introducing rules to restrict spruikers outside polling booths to volunteers who are attached to registered parties and independent candidates.

So they would face the same rules as others. That is not silencing them.

Spruikers are not candidates. And it will apply equally  to registered parties or their affiliates.

They will still have the right to campaign on issues as they do now. Just spruik. ;)

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 9:30pm: I agree with shutting down child exploitation sites and I do not think it is censorship because the material is illegal... It is still censorship even if for the greater good.

You believe child exploitation material is free speech and should not be censored....What a creep....You are even lower than I took you for....Defending the exploitation of children shows your true colours hey snowflake!!!

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lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:19pm:

I guess phil must be mistaken. ;)

I am correct....The AEC has ruled 4 times that Get Up is not an associated entity of Labor and the Greens....Why do you continue to lie snowflake.... Are you Scott Morriscum???

:-? :-? :-?

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:43pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:36pm: Quote: GetUp could face curbs on its right to campaign in elections as the Morrison government considers introducing rules to restrict spruikers outside polling booths to volunteers who are attached to registered parties and independent candidates. So they would face the same rules as others. That is not silencing them. Spruikers are not candidates. And it will apply equally  to registered parties or their affiliates. They will still have the right to campaign on issues as they do now. Just spruik. ;)

So they would face the same rules as others. That is not silencing them.

Those rules currently apply to nobody else, The possible change is specifically targeted at silencing Get Up. Others impacted would be collateral damage.

juliar wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 6:41pm:

GetUp! is just the fraudulent political propaganda arm of the union controlled Labor Party and is controlled and funded by hostile foreign groups. GetUp! fraudulently takes political donations from the unions AND from its hostile foreign controllers. GetUp! sealed its fate and soiled its nest with its shameful terrorist activities at the last election. Now ScoMo is going to tip it into the garbage bin.

Why do you keep posting scurrilous lies?

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:19pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:41pm: Scummo is a dickhead who is trying to use taxpayers money to shut down free speech I guess phil must be mistaken.

Scummo has already used taxpayers' money to stifle free speech.

ABC raid: AFP leave Ultimo building with files after hours-long raid over Afghan Files stories

Australian Federal Police raid News Corp journalist Annika Smethurst's home over alleged national security leak

Bam wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 8:45am:

lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 10:19pm: philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:41pm: Scummo is a dickhead who is trying to use taxpayers money to shut down free speech I guess phil must be mistaken. Scummo has already used taxpayers' money to stifle free speech. ABC raid: AFP leave Ultimo building with files after hours-long raid over Afghan Files stories Australian Federal Police raid News Corp journalist Annika Smethurst's home over alleged national security leak

But...But....Labor wanted to shut down kiddie porn....Lee is adamant this infringes his free speech???

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Just to help poor upset Bammy to understand the TRUTH.

GetUp! is just the fraudulent political propaganda arm of the union controlled Labor Party and is controlled and funded by hostile foreign groups.

GetUp! fraudulently takes political donations from the unions AND from its hostile foreign controllers.

GetUp! sealed its fate and soiled its nest with its shameful terrorist activities at the last election.

Now ScoMo is going to tip it into the garbage bin.

The Lefties are really loyal to the slimy GetUp! which tells them what to say and think.

Their HillSong meetings are the height of indoctrination ridicule.

juliar wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 9:59am:

Just to help poor upset Bammy to understand the TRUTH. GetUp! is just the fraudulent political propaganda arm of the union controlled Labor Party and is controlled and funded by hostile foreign groups. GetUp! fraudulently takes political donations from the unions AND from its hostile foreign controllers. GetUp! sealed its fate and soiled its nest with its shameful terrorist activities at the last election. Now ScoMo is going to tip it into the garbage bin. The Lefties are really loyal to the slimy GetUp! which tells them what to say and think. Their HillSong meetings are the height of indoctrination ridicule.

https://www.getup.org.au/donate/

Crazy old Gweggy bungs on a mental. Wine is wonderful.

He is waiting for GetUp! to explain it all to him.

juliar wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 9:59am:

Just to help poor upset Bammy to understand the TRUTH. GetUp! is just the fraudulent political propaganda arm of the union controlled Labor Party and is controlled and funded by hostile foreign groups.

*Citation needed


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GetUp! fraudulently takes political donations from the unions AND from its hostile foreign controllers.

*Citation needed


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GetUp! sealed its fate and soiled its nest with its shameful terrorist activities at the last election.

*Citation needed

So are you taking a stand against:

All "fraudulent political propaganda"?

All "foreign-funded lobby groups"?

Batten down the hatches!! The angry Greeny Kangyroo is after me to continue her HATE session. Greenies are such boring creatures.

juliar wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 11:43am:

Batten down the hatches!! The angry Greeny Kangyroo is after me to continue her HATE session. Greenies are such boring creatures.

2 Questions, that's all you need to do, answer those 2 questions.  I even highlighted them for you.

It's not asking a lot.  Check the usual response and for once, please answer the questions, thanks.

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 11:16pm:

You believe child exploitation material is free speech and should not be censored..

Now that is a clear case of not being mistaken in what you wrote. That means ergo - that you are a LIAR.

But it is what I have come to expect from you.

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 11:19pm:

I am correct....The AEC has ruled 4 times that Get Up is not an associated entity of Labor and the Greens..

And that has nothing to do with "silencing" them. You really have lost the plot.

juliar wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

Crazy old Gweggy bungs on a mental. Wine is wonderful. He is waiting for GetUp! to explain it all to him.

I'm going to make a donation to getup just to piss you off :D LOL

lee wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 12:10pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 11:16pm: You believe child exploitation material is free speech and should not be censored.. Now that is a clear case of not being mistaken in what you wrote.

lee wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 9:30pm: I agree with shutting down child exploitation sites and I do not think it is censorship because the material is illegal... It is still censorship even if for the greater good.

Lee believes child exploitation material is free speech and should not be censored....What a creep!!!

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Dnarever wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 6:52am:

Those rules currently apply to nobody else,

And in the future they would, if passed,apply to political parties, organisations etc.


Dnarever wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 6:52am:

The possible change is specifically targeted at silencing Get Up.

How exactly would it "silence" Get Up.

Bam wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 8:45am:

Scummo has already used taxpayers' money to stifle free speech. ABC raid: AFP leave Ultimo building with files after hours-long raid over Afghan Files stories Australian Federal Police raid News Corp journalist Annika Smethurst's home over alleged national security leak

And they got reported. How is that stifling free speech? ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 9:03am:

But...But....Labor wanted to shut down kiddie porn....Lee is adamant this infringes his free speech???

phil the liar at it again. :'( :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 12:24pm:

I'm going to make a donation to getup just to piss you off

Your money to do with as you wish. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 12:41pm:

Lee believes child exploitation material is free speech and should not be censored....

As usual you're not right. Child exploitation material is free speech whether you wish it to be so or not,

I said it should be censored, liar

Of course telling half truths is a standard leftist tactic.

juliar wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 9:59am:

Just to help poor upset Bammy to understand the TRUTH. GetUp! is just the fraudulent political propaganda arm of the union controlled Labor Party and is controlled and funded by hostile foreign groups. GetUp! fraudulently takes political donations from the unions AND from its hostile foreign controllers. GetUp! sealed its fate and soiled its nest with its shameful terrorist activities at the last election. Now ScoMo is going to tip it into the garbage bin. The Lefties are really loyal to the slimy GetUp! which tells them what to say and think.

Scurrilous nonsense.


juliar wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 9:59am:

Their HillSong meetings are the height of indoctrination ridicule.

So you're attacking Morrison's church now?

lee wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 1:12pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:41pm: Lee believes child exploitation material is free speech and should not be censored.... As usual you're not right. Child exploitation material is free speech whether you wish it to be so or not, I said it should be censored, liar Of course telling half truths is a standard leftist tactic.

I'm making no judgment in you Lee because I think I know what it is you're trying to say.

But I disagree that it's free speech, it's criminal activity, that's not free speech.  It isn't protected by the implied rights to free speech we have in Australia.

But either way, that's a topic for an entirely different thread and has nothing to do with GetUp!.

Still waiting for Juliar to answer my questions, thanks.