Power Bank Portable Car Jump Starter


These seem quite popular today.   [....look much easier than hooking up jumper leads, onto another vehicle]

Any advice on what to look for when buying ?

Some available, in Australia, on eBay, from around $60 now.



I will need to jump start a diesel ute.

I use an Itech 900A. Which works well on diesels. They have a new updated model 1000A from memory.

https://itechworld.com.au/

Yadda wrote on Aug 17^th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

Power Bank Portable Car Jump Starter These seem quite popular today.   [....look much easier than hooking up jumper leads, onto another vehicle] Any advice on what to look for when buying ? Some available, in Australia, on eBay, from around $60 now. I will need to jump start a diesel ute.

Do you really need to jump start that often it's a pain? You could go dual batteries if you go off road. Once one is discharged, you know exactly what you have in reserve.

The 900A and 1000A are lithium batteries. Very small footprint and very light.

Is it this one?

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-Car-Jump-Starter-Power-Bank-Vehicle-Battery-Charger-12V-68800mah-Backup/183306642464?epid=623133407&hash=item2aaded6420:g:sZMAAOSwVxpbPH7H

Bobby. wrote on Aug 17^th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

Is it this one? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-Car-Jump-Starter-Power-Bank-Vehicle-Battery-Charger-12V-68800mah-Backup/183306642464?epid=623133407&hash=item2aaded6420:g:sZMAAOSwVxpbPH7H

No it is similar. It does say that one is not suitable for diesel engines.

That is only 600Amps peak current capacity.

Yadda wrote on Aug 17^th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

Power Bank Portable Car Jump Starter These seem quite popular today.   [....look much easier than hooking up jumper leads, onto another vehicle] Any advice on what to look for when buying ? Some available, in Australia, on eBay, from around $60 now. I will need to jump start a diesel ute.

I would just get a set of jumper leads, what happens if battery bank doesn't have enough charge because it has been sitting unused for a while?

If it needs frequent jump starting then battery is stuffed or didn't have enough cold cranking amps.

Deep discharges ( less than 50% charge) stuff Lead Acid batteries resulting in a much shorter life.

The battery in my Torana is over 20 years old still going strong because I drive it at least once a fortnight.

I have had one for a couple of years
I would not be without it now
Jump starts my diesel tractor. diesel ute.
Its so easy to use .have jump started plenty of cars
So small and lite....good idea to take on a boat in case of flat batteries
The phone and other things can plug into it as well

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 17^th, 2019 at 10:26pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 5:41pm: Power Bank Portable Car Jump Starter These seem quite popular today.   [....look much easier than hooking up jumper leads, onto another vehicle] Any advice on what to look for when buying ? Some available, in Australia, on eBay, from around $60 now. I will need to jump start a diesel ute. 1/ I would just get a set of jumper leads, what happens if battery bank doesn't have enough charge because it has been sitting unused for a while? 2/ If it needs frequent jump starting then battery is stuffed or didn't have enough cold cranking amps. 3/ Deep discharges ( less than 50% charge) stuff Lead Acid batteries resulting in a much shorter life. 4/ The battery in my Torana is over 20 years old still going strong because I drive it at least once a fortnight.

A friend in town has a Power Bank.....

1/ You can charge the power bank [off mains] overnight [if it is low].
They all seem to have an LCD display, which will show % of charge - just keep an eye on the charge level.
I live out of town, and my close neighbours are all getting to be old and infirm, so would rather not bother them for a jump start using cables [to another vehicle].

2/ I know to replace my battery when it is stuffed.   ...it is just that through a cold winter, an early morning start, can test an 'old' battery.
If my battery fails to start my diesel, i just need to start my ute to get into town to buy a new battery.

4/ My last ute battery lasted for 11 years [with frequent water level checks].
My current battery is about 7 yrs old.
I drive into town [charge my battery], at least a couple of times a week.




Reply #7,
miketrees, Thanks for that post.
Sounds good!
It encourages me.



Reply #2,
Setanta,
"Do you really need to jump start that often it's a pain?"
No.    I can't remember the last time i needed a cable jump start.

A friend in town has a two battery setup in his diesel ute.
But it looks like a lot of faffing about [cabling, and switching gear, and all].
That friend, is the one with a Power Bank now [as well].

If a Power Bank will help start my ute on a very cold morning, that will be sufficient.
I just need to start the ute, so i can get to town to replace the L/A battery.

lee wrote on Aug 17^th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Is it this one? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-Car-Jump-Starter-Power-Bank-Vehicle-Battery-Charger-12V-68800mah-Backup/183306642464?epid=623133407&hash=item2aaded6420:g:sZMAAOSwVxpbPH7H No it is similar. It does say that one is not suitable for diesel engines. That is only 600Amps peak current capacity.

To help Yadda I'd need to know the exact one he wants to buy.

People often forget about their jump start battery -
they just leave it in the boot for 6 months & let it self discharge -
and when they need it there's not enough charge.

The itech 900A has a 900 Amp peak.
the 1000A has a 1000Amp peak.
And now I see they have a 2000A with a 2000 Amp peak.

They are not only good for jump starting but can recharge mobile devices, run fridges etc.

They also recommend you discharge it every 3 months and recharge.

I discharge mine by running the camping fridge

Bobby. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 9:32am:

lee wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 9:31pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Is it this one? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-Car-Jump-Starter-Power-Bank-Vehicle-Battery-Charger-12V-68800mah-Backup/183306642464?epid=623133407&hash=item2aaded6420:g:sZMAAOSwVxpbPH7H No it is similar. It does say that one is not suitable for diesel engines. That is only 600Amps peak current capacity. To help Yadda I'd need to know the exact one he wants to buy.

I'm looking at something like this Bobby....

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/392248272365



In the specs, on the page.....

"This jump starter can start Gasoline car below 5.5L/Diesel car below 4.0L."




That would do me fine.

Yadda wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 12:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:32am: lee wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 9:31pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Is it this one? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-Car-Jump-Starter-Power-Bank-Vehicle-Battery-Charger-12V-68800mah-Backup/183306642464?epid=623133407&hash=item2aaded6420:g:sZMAAOSwVxpbPH7H No it is similar. It does say that one is not suitable for diesel engines. That is only 600Amps peak current capacity. To help Yadda I'd need to know the exact one he wants to buy. I'm looking at something like this Bobby.... https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/392248272365 In the specs, on the page..... "This jump starter can start Gasoline car below 5.5L/Diesel car below 4.0L." That would do me fine.

Looks OK - buy it.
The only thing I don't like are the skinny red & black wires -
they don't look thick enough to pass 400 amps.

You can make your own leads.Or buy the leads and attach to the clamps

https://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=123479108158&view=all&tid=2085109123002

EC5 female + 12 AWG wire

or plugs only

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-Pairs-EC5-Banana-Plug-Female-Male-Bullet-Gold-Connector-5-Sets-10pcs/232612465703?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Strip the wires to length. Solder and make a jig to feed the cable through sideways. I used 20mm square tube about 50mm long and cut one side out to about 10mm all the way along.

It was a pain to fit into the holder until I used a pedestal drill and a 3.5mm bit inserted upside down to press it into the holder.

lee wrote on Aug 18^th, 2019 at 2:48pm:

You can make your own leads.Or buy the leads and attach to the clamps https://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=123479108158&view=all&tid=2085109123002 EC5 female + 12 AWG wire or plugs only https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-Pairs-EC5-Banana-Plug-Female-Male-Bullet-Gold-Connector-5-Sets-10pcs/232612465703?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Strip the wires to length. Solder and make a jig to feed the cable through sideways. I used 20mm square tube about 50mm long and cut one side out to about 10mm all the way along. It was a pain to fit into the holder until I used a pedestal drill and a 3.5mm bit inserted upside down to press it into the holder.

Your first link is dead.
You shouldn't have to modify them.
Yadda should just try it & see.

My Itech one came with 10AWG leads but I wanted others made.

I suggest he contact the vendor and ask the question.

Get one with sealed lead acid batteries and it will start anything and last for ever and like a car battery can be recharged countless times without losing capacity.

Lithium batteries steadily die with each recharge.

One I have is a Booster Pac  ES5000  12v 1500 peak amps. I have had it for years. recharge with a small trickle charger. A bit heavy but a goody.

Maxwell super capacitors used to start a car ! Still going strong after 3 years ! This is the same technology acquired by Tesla ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzaLF5tFf88

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 9:21am:

Maxwell super capacitors used to start a car ! Still going strong after 3 years ! This is the same technology acquired by Tesla

So why would EV's need a supercap?

They don't.

They need a tow to the junk yard.

it is hilarious when a dangerous unsafe Tesla toy car gets a flat battery - the useless pile of junk is paralyzed.

lee wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 1:40pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:21am: Maxwell super capacitors used to start a car ! Still going strong after 3 years ! This is the same technology acquired by Tesla So why would EV's need a supercap?

because capacitors are much more efficient than batteries at storing or supplying energy so they are ideal for huge current dumps such as acceleration and regeneration. Tesla will most likely use them as a buffer between the motor/generator and batteries ;)

juliar wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 5:13pm:

They don't. They need a tow to the junk yard. it is hilarious when a dangerous unsafe Tesla toy car gets a flat battery - the useless pile of junk is paralyzed.

and a flat battery in a fossil fool or hydrogen car does what idiot ??

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 9:56pm:

because capacitors are much more efficient than batteries so they are ideal for huge current dumps such as acceleration and regeneration.

Yes they are. But you need a lot more of them as they are typically 2.7volt and low amperage.


Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 9:56pm:

Tesla will most likely use them as a buffer between the motor/generator and batteries

Incredible. LostNail can see into the mind of Elon Musk, the man who would nuke Mars. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 10:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:56pm: because capacitors are much more efficient than batteries so they are ideal for huge current dumps such as acceleration and regeneration. Yes they are. But you need a lot more of them as they are typically 2.7volt and low amperage. Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:56pm: Tesla will most likely use them as a buffer between the motor/generator and batteries Incredible. LostNail can see into the mind of Elon Musk, the man who would nuke Mars. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeh low "amperage" that can turnover a V8 engine :D LOL

Only an LNP supporter could not envisage the use of those super caps in an electric car :D LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8wdeqS3UlU&t=4s

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 10:35pm:

Yeh low "amperage" that can turnover a V8 engine

That's why you need a lot of the petal. In series for about 16 volt and in parallel to provide the amperage. ;)

You really should do some reading before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

@ Reply #17

lastnail,

That YT was interesting, that guy, replacing a L/A vehicle battery, with a bank of capacitors.

Sufficient power available to start the vehicle engine.

Nice.



Just wondering, is there any danger of those capacitors overheating, being confined within that small container ?

Would some ventilation be useful ?



i went to his user channel.....

https://www.youtube.com/user/catrinisin/videos                  no update :((((

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20^th, 2019 at 10:35pm:

lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 10:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:56pm: because capacitors are much more efficient than batteries so they are ideal for huge current dumps such as acceleration and regeneration. Yes they are. But you need a lot more of them as they are typically 2.7volt and low amperage. Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:56pm: Tesla will most likely use them as a buffer between the motor/generator and batteries Incredible. LostNail can see into the mind of Elon Musk, the man who would nuke Mars. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Yeh low "amperage" that can turnover a V8 engine :D LOL Only an LNP supporter could not envisage the use of those super caps in an electric car :D LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8wdeqS3UlU&t=4s

Wow, just 6 supercapacitors and a $12 battery.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2019 at 9:21pm:

Wow, just 6 supercapacitors and a $12 battery.

Wow. Where did they find a battery for $12? The local swap meet?

Could be an idea to watch the YT, lee. Just saying.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2019 at 10:10pm:

Could be an idea to watch the YT, lee. Just saying.

No petal Youtube is full of shills and liars. ;)

You have a YT channel?

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2019 at 11:19pm:

You have a YT channel?

No petal. You?

google Power Bank Portable Car Jump Starter

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 7:33am:

google Power Bank Portable Car Jump Starter

I don't use google. So does it explain all about this $12 battery?

But BH gets goose bumps if he uses Google!!!!!

juliar wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 1:17pm:

But BH gets goose bumps if he uses Google!!!!!

You mean, that it excites him ?       ;)

BH gets goose bumps if he uses Google because he is scared of what he might find in the big wide world.

He should go to the DARK WEB for some real thrills!!!!


I thought the Munk was banned to his GetUp! Propaganda Site!!!!!!

lee wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 12:10pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 7:33am: google Power Bank Portable Car Jump Starter I don't use google. So does it explain all about this $12 battery?

I was referring to Yadda, not you.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 2:39pm:

I was referring to Yadda, not you.

Then perhaps you can annotate your posts? ;)

lee wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 2:48pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 2:39pm: I was referring to Yadda, not you. Then perhaps you can annotate your posts? ;)

Perhaps, perhaps not. I just thought I hadn't directed it specifically to you.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 2:49pm:

Perhaps, perhaps not. I just thought I hadn't directed it specifically to you.

You hadn't directed it specifically to anyone.

lee wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 3:05pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 22nd, 2019 at 2:49pm: Perhaps, perhaps not. I just thought I hadn't directed it specifically to you. You hadn't directed it specifically to anyone.

My apologies, I just assumed people would be clever enough to work that since yadda constantly says google such and such instead of providing a link, it would have been directed at him.


Oh wall, I won't overestimate again.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 3:11pm:

My apologies, I just assumed people would be clever enough to work that since yadda constantly says google such and such instead of providing a link, it would have been directed at him.

Sorry, I don't follow Yadda either. I know nothing of the writing style. ;)

BH is tripped up.

BH take your life in your hands and type in (Shudder) Google in your favorite DuckDuckGo browser and hit ENTER!!!!!

Then steady yourself and brace yourself for exposure to the Whole Wide World Web!!!!


Just click here to shatter your phobia     https://www.toptenz.net/10-reasons-fear-google.php

Lithium battery car starters aren't much chop because the lithium batteries lose some capacity every time you recharge them.

And if you try to start something too big like a 600HP diesel then the lithium battery will overheat and could explode into a fiery inferno.

juliar wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2019 at 11:23am:

Lithium battery car starters aren't much chop because the lithium batteries lose some capacity every time you recharge them. And if you try to start something too big like a 600HP diesel then the lithium battery will overheat and could explode into a fiery inferno.

How many 600HP diesel cars do you know?

BH, on a first name basis ?

How is treatment for your Google Phobia going ?

juliar wrote on Aug 26^th, 2019 at 2:28pm:

BH, on a first name basis ? How is treatment for your Google Phobia going ?

How many 600HP diesel cars do you know.

BH, on a first name basis ?   How is treatment for your Google Phobia going ?

On the drag strip one can meet 600HP diesel cars.

But BH you are just trying to go off on one of your tangential change the topic circular thingies.

The power-bank device.

I got one,      it looks exactly like the one mentioned here....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1566027681/11#11



When it arrived, i put it on mains charge [as per instructions].

It was on a charge for about 3 hours, but i'm pretty sure it was already fully charged up, when it came.
[going by the LCD indicator.]



Today.....
Deep, deep in the woods, the temp here was below 0 C this morning, and i was expecting a 'groan' as my 7 year old battery turned over the motor of my diesel ute.

So i decided to do the start, with aid from the power-bank device.

And i was pleasantly surprised.

My ute motor was turned over strongly, and it started like it was the middle of a warm day.

It was cold! here, but there was no hesitation in strongly turning over the motor.



It was not a true test of this power-bank, ....which would be to start my diesel ute with a dead [or too weak to start] battery.



I can't work one thing out though.

Afterwards, and still now, the LCD indicator on the the power-bank, still shows a 100% charge.

After the start, was expecting the LCD indicator on the the power-bank, to at least be showing less than 100% ?




Anyway, it looks good.

Yadda wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 9:57pm:

The power-bank device. I got one,      it looks exactly like the one mentioned here.... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1566027681/11#11 When it arrived, i put it on mains charge [as per instructions]. It was on a charge for about 3 hours, but i'm pretty sure it was already fully charged up, when it came. [going by the LCD indicator.] Today..... Deep, deep in the woods, the temp here was below 0 C this morning, and i was expecting a 'groan' as my 7 year old battery turned over the motor of my diesel ute. So i decided to do the start, with aid from the power-bank device. And i was pleasantly surprised. My ute motor was turned over strongly, and it started like it was the middle of a warm day. It was cold! here, but there was no hesitation in strongly turning over the motor. It was not a true test of this power-bank, ....which would be to start my diesel ute with a dead [or too weak to start] battery. I can't work one thing out though. Afterwards, and still now, the LCD indicator on the the power-bank, still shows a 100% charge. After the start, was expecting the LCD indicator on the the power-bank, to at least be showing less than 100% ? Anyway, it looks good.

Yadda's matchbox toy transport could be started with an energetic sneeze.

Yadda's power bank is a penis extender.

@ Reply #50,

LEFTIST.

LarfTillUFart is a crazy Greeny who is not the full quid.

juliar wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 11:37pm:

LarfTillUFart is a crazy Greeny who is not the full quid.

Juliar needs a push start.

LarfTillUFart is behaving just like Greeny. She is not the full quid.

juliar wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 11:49pm:

LarfTillUFart is behaving just like Greeny. She is not the full quid.

Juliar is hand-cranking himself after jacking his wheels.

Juliar has been pushed off the road. Juliar should not have been taken off the blocks. He evidently can only propel himself downhill.

Hand cranking noises coming from Juliar again. Followed by jacking noises and creaking.

LarfTillUFart is off and running.  Once you wind a dumb Greeny up they will go on for days getting sillier with each venting of warped inferiority complex HATE.

juliar wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 1:57am:

LarfTillUFart is off and running.  Once you wind a dumb Greeny up they will go on for days getting sillier with each venting of warped inferiority complex HATE.

Juliar's hand-cranking has started his engine but he is out of fuel.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 8:14am:

juliar wrote on Sep 6th, 2019 at 1:57am: LarfTillUFart is off and running.  Once you wind a dumb Greeny up they will go on for days getting sillier with each venting of warped inferiority complex HATE. Juliar's hand-cranking has started his engine but he is out of fuel.

And yours won't even turn over? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It is good fun stirring up a decrepit failure like the silly old Greeny LarfTillUFart.   How does anyone end up like this ?

What sort of wankers need a jump starter device?

Yadda, Juliar, and lee. Sum of their IQs less than 50.

Juliar is still waiting for Yadda to work out where to connect the jumper lead clamps on Juliar's limo after detaching them from lee's testicles.


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/21/b6/1f/21b61feed7e84fde837c21a5426a1e76.jpg

How do they breed sad creatures like LarfTillUFart ? 

juliar wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 2:58pm:

How do they breed sad creatures like LarfTillUFart ?

Now Juliar's limo is making whining noises. It will change to bleating noises after Juliar stops jacking.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

What sort of wankers need a jump starter device?

Obviously you drive an EV so when your batteries fail a jump start battery would be nowhere near big enough. ;D ;D ;D ;D

But more likely a 100% urban cowboy. ;)

Grenny LarfTillUFart is just so dreary and boring. She is hardly worth winding up. She is no challenge. Classic Greeny - dumb and ignorant.