Australian, Ace electric vehicles

https://www.ace-ev.com.au/ace-cargo/



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Mentioned on a Ch7 news item tonight.

Charge at home ??
How much to buy ??

Only 250 km range atm though.     ....i could live with a 250 km range atm.

They are offering versions as a cargo van, a 'yewt', and a sedan.

Promoted as a German developed vehicle, Chinese produce/parts, comes as a 'flat pack', 'put it together' product, delivered in 6 boxes.

???

Looks interesting, if it 'works' as advertised.

Instead of so called 1500 lousy jobs in the stinken Adani coal mine there are tens of thousands of prospective jobs building these electric vehicles along with the charging infrastructure to go with it but it seems the lying liberal scumbags are not interested in jobs that bypass greed incorporated for their energy needs even though there are a lot more jobs in it :(

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 9:45pm:

Instead of so called 1500 lousy jobs in the stinken Adani coal mine there are tens of thousands of prospective jobs building these electric vehicles along with the charging infrastructure to go with it but it seems the lying liberal scumbags are not interested in jobs that bypass greed incorporated for their energy needs even though there are a lot more jobs in it :(

Australians only buy imported Japanese or European vehicles.

The government learned its lesson with the previous car industry where the subsidy to car manufacturers was more than the jobs were worth.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 10:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:45pm: Instead of so called 1500 lousy jobs in the stinken Adani coal mine there are tens of thousands of prospective jobs building these electric vehicles along with the charging infrastructure to go with it but it seems the lying liberal scumbags are not interested in jobs that bypass greed incorporated for their energy needs even though there are a lot more jobs in it :( Australians only buy imported Japanese or European vehicles. The government learned its lesson with the previous car industry where the subsidy to car manufacturers was more than the jobs were worth.

The problem with the car industry was the government kept throwing money at foreign corporations with no checks and balances. Who in private enterprise would ever do a deal like this where you have no equity in a business you invest in. Own none of the intellectual property. Own none of the manufacturing equipment or the land it is bolted onto. It was always going to be a bad deal and it was.

One other hand this local electric car manufacturer got the bums rush from the then Labor Government who were too busy doling out blank cheques to Detroit and Tokyo :(

https://www.smh.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-20100724-10pr2.html


Quote:

Electric car maker angry over import deal AUSTRALIA'S leading electric car manufacturer has blasted the federal government for choosing an imported model to be Australia's first electric trial fleet. In June, the federal Minister for Transport and Infrastructure, Anthony Albanese, announced that the government would be buying 40 imported Mitsubishi i-Miev electric vehicles as a way of encouraging the uptake of electric vehicles. But Castlemaine-based Blade Electric Vehicles said the decision was inexplicable given that its car, the Blade Electron, was better, cheaper, and had been developed with federal government funding. ''We cannot understand why Mr Albanese has chosen to exclude the Electron,'' said Ross Blade, director of BEV. ''The federal government has spent over $100,000 of taxpayers' money on the development of the Blade Electron through the COMET (Commercialising Emerging Technologies) program. Despite the Electron meeting Australia's design standards, the federal government has chosen instead to lease a foreign product at nearly double the cost.'' Mr Blade said that Mitsubishi was leasing the i-Miev for $1740 a month for a total cost over three years of $62,640. This compared with $900 a month for the Electron, for a total cost over three years of $48,000. Mr Blade said the Electron was a bigger car with superior performance to the i-Miev and, more importantly, could be plugged into a regular power point for recharging. However, a spokesman for Mr Albanese, Geoff Sinclair, said the government did not choose the Blade Electron because it was not a mass-produced car and did not meet two Australian design standards, although he could not say which ones. Mr Blade said that if the Australian government was not going to buy a locally made electric car, it stood little chance of being mass produced. ''In terms of our vehicle being mass produced, the fact of the matter is that if the Australian government is not going to buy them, then how can they be mass produced? ''It's a chicken and egg thing.''

Yadda wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:47pm:

Australian, Ace electric vehicles https://www.ace-ev.com.au/ace-cargo/ 1,999px × 727px IMAGE..... https://www.ace-ev.com.au/wp-content/uploads/ACE-Cargo-website.jpg Mentioned on a Ch7 news item tonight. Charge at home ?? How much to buy ?? Only 250 km range atm though.     ....i could live with a 250 km range atm. They are offering versions as a cargo van, a 'yewt', and a sedan. Promoted as a German developed vehicle, Chinese produce/parts, comes as a 'flat pack', 'put it together' product, delivered in 6 boxes. ??? Looks interesting, if it 'works' as advertised.

there have been a few threads on this vehicle so far, they look good and their price is mentioned
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1556714464

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1554003124

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 10:44pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 10:02pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:45pm: Instead of so called 1500 lousy jobs in the stinken Adani coal mine there are tens of thousands of prospective jobs building these electric vehicles along with the charging infrastructure to go with it but it seems the lying liberal scumbags are not interested in jobs that bypass greed incorporated for their energy needs even though there are a lot more jobs in it :( Australians only buy imported Japanese or European vehicles. The government learned its lesson with the previous car industry where the subsidy to car manufacturers was more than the jobs were worth. The problem with the car industry was the government kept throwing money at foreign corporations with no checks and balances. Who in private enterprise would ever do a deal like this where you have no equity in a business you invest in. Own none of the intellectual property. Own none of the manufacturing equipment or the land it is bolted onto. It was always going to be a bad deal and it was. On the other hand this local electric car manufacturer got the bums rush from the then Labor Government who were too busy doling out blank cheques to Detroit and Tokyo :( https://www.smh.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-20100724-10pr2.html Quote: Electric car maker angry over import deal AUSTRALIA'S leading electric car manufacturer has blasted the federal government for choosing an imported model to be Australia's first electric trial fleet. In June, the federal Minister for Transport and Infrastructure, Anthony Albanese, announced that the government would be buying 40 imported Mitsubishi i-Miev electric vehicles as a way of encouraging the uptake of electric vehicles. But Castlemaine-based Blade Electric Vehicles said the decision was inexplicable given that its car, the Blade Electron, was better, cheaper, and had been developed with federal government funding. ''We cannot understand why Mr Albanese has chosen to exclude the Electron,'' said Ross Blade, director of BEV. ''The federal government has spent over $100,000 of taxpayers' money on the development of the Blade Electron through the COMET (Commercialising Emerging Technologies) program. Despite the Electron meeting Australia's design standards, the federal government has chosen instead to lease a foreign product at nearly double the cost.'' Mr Blade said that Mitsubishi was leasing the i-Miev for $1740 a month for a total cost over three years of $62,640. This compared with $900 a month for the Electron, for a total cost over three years of $48,000. Mr Blade said the Electron was a bigger car with superior performance to the i-Miev and, more importantly, could be plugged into a regular power point for recharging. However, a spokesman for Mr Albanese, Geoff Sinclair, said the government did not choose the Blade Electron because it was not a mass-produced car and did not meet two Australian design standards, although he could not say which ones. Mr Blade said that if the Australian government was not going to buy a locally made electric car, it stood little chance of being mass produced. ''In terms of our vehicle being mass produced, the fact of the matter is that if the Australian government is not going to buy them, then how can they be mass produced? ''It's a chicken and egg thing.''

And just think coal power is used to recharge these rather useless all electric heaps.

Overload one of electric toys and you will overheat the dangerous fire bomb lithium battery with the very real danger that it will then EXPLODE in a FIERY INFERNO!!!!!

Hydrogen does not have any of these overloading problems as it just goes and goes like a diesel.

That is why IT IS THE FUEL of the FUTURE.

juliar wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

And just think coal power is used to recharge these rather useless all electric heaps. Overload one of electric toys and you will overheat the dangerous fire bomb lithium battery with the very real danger that it will then EXPLODE in a FIERY INFERNO!!!!! Hydrogen does not have any of these overloading problems as it just goes and goes like a diesel. That is why IT IS THE FUEL of the FUTURE.

And lots of FREE power coming from rooftop solar if you are smart and not dumb and dumber like supporters of the LNP who let private scammers run the electricity grid :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI166Ps8DIo&t=59s

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 3:36pm:

juliar wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:22pm: And just think coal power is used to recharge these rather useless all electric heaps. Overload one of electric toys and you will overheat the dangerous fire bomb lithium battery with the very real danger that it will then EXPLODE in a FIERY INFERNO!!!!! Hydrogen does not have any of these overloading problems as it just goes and goes like a diesel. That is why IT IS THE FUEL of the FUTURE. And lots of FREE power coming from rooftop solar if you are smart and not dumb and dumber like supporters of the LNP who let private scammers run the electricity grid :(

How is solar power free when solar panels and batteries cost over $15K?

Do you even have a house to put solar panels on?
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Baron, these looney Greeny trolls are incapable of doing the sums about solar.

One poster calculated you need 7 fully charged Tesla PowerWalls to recharge a Tesla overnight.

Now as solar only works for a few hours around midday, if the sun is shining, then imagine the HUGE north facing roof covered in many solar panels you would need to charge up the 7 PowerWall batteries!!!!!

Tough luck in winter when it is overcast and raining all day and when there is a hail storm and the solar panels get clobbered!!!

And in summer during a dry spell when the solar panels get covered in dust and bird droppings!!!

These looney Greenies are just so impractical and so technically obtuse.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 4:08pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 3:36pm: juliar wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:22pm: And just think coal power is used to recharge these rather useless all electric heaps. Overload one of electric toys and you will overheat the dangerous fire bomb lithium battery with the very real danger that it will then EXPLODE in a FIERY INFERNO!!!!! Hydrogen does not have any of these overloading problems as it just goes and goes like a diesel. That is why IT IS THE FUEL of the FUTURE. And lots of FREE power coming from rooftop solar if you are smart and not dumb and dumber like supporters of the LNP who let private scammers run the electricity grid :( How is solar power free when solar panels and batteries cost over $15K? Do you even have a house to put solar panels on? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

6.6 kilowatt PV installs for 2.5K with rebates ;)

And how much does it cost to fill up the clunker each year plus service and parts ? And what is PULP at the moment ? $1.90 a liter :(

juliar wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 7:02pm:

Baron, these looney Greeny trolls are incapable of doing the sums about solar. One poster calculated you need 7 fully charged Tesla PowerWalls to recharge a Tesla overnight. Now as solar only works for a few hours around midday, if the sun is shining, then imagine the HUGE north facing roof covered in many solar panels you would need to charge up the 7 PowerWall batteries!!!!! Tough luck in winter when it is overcast and raining all day and when there is a hail storm and the solar panels get clobbered!!! And in summer during a dry spell when the solar panels get covered in dust and bird droppings!!! These looney Greenies are just so impractical and so technically obtuse.

A lot of people work from home these days socko so it's a very good deal for them ;) No equivalent for the fossil fool clunkers though. It's straight down to the fossil fool bowser to take it up the arse :(

Heavens! Talking about intelligent stuff has made the looney Greeny Tweedledumb fall out of her tree.

juliar wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2019 at 9:47am:

Heavens! Talking about intelligent stuff has made the looney Greeny Tweedledumb fall out of her tree.

copy and pastes his own posts :D LOL

Heavens! Talking about intelligent stuff has made the looney Greeny Tweedledumb fall out of her tree.

These looney Greenies are just so impractical and so technically obtuse.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 9:43pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 4:08pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 3:36pm: juliar wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:22pm: And just think coal power is used to recharge these rather useless all electric heaps. Overload one of electric toys and you will overheat the dangerous fire bomb lithium battery with the very real danger that it will then EXPLODE in a FIERY INFERNO!!!!! Hydrogen does not have any of these overloading problems as it just goes and goes like a diesel. That is why IT IS THE FUEL of the FUTURE. And lots of FREE power coming from rooftop solar if you are smart and not dumb and dumber like supporters of the LNP who let private scammers run the electricity grid :( How is solar power free when solar panels and batteries cost over $15K? Do you even have a house to put solar panels on? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D 6.6 kilowatt PV installs for 2.5K with rebates ;) And how much does it cost to fill up the clunker each year plus service and parts ? And what is PULP at the moment ? $1.90 a liter :(

A cheap crappy Chinese solar setup might be that cheap it will cost at least double that for quality solar panels and inverter that will last.

The Tesla powerwalls are over $10K should we include that cost in your bullshit about free power?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:23am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:47pm: Australian, Ace electric vehicles https://www.ace-ev.com.au/ace-cargo/ 1,999px × 727px IMAGE..... https://www.ace-ev.com.au/wp-content/uploads/ACE-Cargo-website.jpg Mentioned on a Ch7 news item tonight. Charge at home ?? How much to buy ?? Only 250 km range atm though.     ....i could live with a 250 km range atm. They are offering versions as a cargo van, a 'yewt', and a sedan. Promoted as a German developed vehicle, Chinese produce/parts, comes as a 'flat pack', 'put it together' product, delivered in 6 boxes. ??? Looks interesting, if it 'works' as advertised. there have been a few threads on this vehicle so far, they look good and their price is mentioned http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1556714464 http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1554003124

thank you

I've posted about ACE several times and the fact they have a factory now in Adelaide and expect to produce 15,000 to 25,000 vehicles a year -- most of which they expect will be sold overseas

and the founder has mentioned in several interviews that he has been shown ZERO interest or encouragement OR money from out great government

because we don't need industry, right. And we don't need job creation here in the lucky-country

PZ547 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2019 at 6:01am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 7:23am: Yadda wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:47pm: Australian, Ace electric vehicles https://www.ace-ev.com.au/ace-cargo/ 1,999px × 727px IMAGE..... https://www.ace-ev.com.au/wp-content/uploads/ACE-Cargo-website.jpg Mentioned on a Ch7 news item tonight. Charge at home ?? How much to buy ?? Only 250 km range atm though.     ....i could live with a 250 km range atm. They are offering versions as a cargo van, a 'yewt', and a sedan. Promoted as a German developed vehicle, Chinese produce/parts, comes as a 'flat pack', 'put it together' product, delivered in 6 boxes. ??? Looks interesting, if it 'works' as advertised. there have been a few threads on this vehicle so far, they look good and their price is mentioned http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1556714464 http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1554003124 thank you I've posted about ACE several times and the fact they have a factory now in Adelaide and expect to produce 15,000 to 25,000 vehicles a year -- most of which they expect will be sold overseas and the founder has mentioned in several interviews that he has been shown ZERO interest or encouragement OR money from out great government because we don't need industry, right. And we don't need job creation here in the lucky-country

when it comes to jobs both sides of grubbernment are very selective. They always talk about jobs but it's not just any job. The grubbernent would prefer people to have jobs scraping off plates in a cafeteria or cleaning toilets rather than a job building electric cars. And Labor is no better :(

https://www.smh.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-20100724-10pr2.html


Quote:

Electric car maker angry over import deal AUSTRALIA'S leading electric car manufacturer has blasted the federal government for choosing an imported model to be Australia's first electric trial fleet. In June, the federal Minister for Transport and Infrastructure, Anthony Albanese, announced that the government would be buying 40 imported Mitsubishi i-Miev electric vehicles as a way of encouraging the uptake of electric vehicles. But Castlemaine-based Blade Electric Vehicles said the decision was inexplicable given that its car, the Blade Electron, was better, cheaper, and had been developed with federal government funding. ''We cannot understand why Mr Albanese has chosen to exclude the Electron,'' said Ross Blade, director of BEV. ''The federal government has spent over $100,000 of taxpayers' money on the development of the Blade Electron through the COMET (Commercialising Emerging Technologies) program. Despite the Electron meeting Australia's design standards, the federal government has chosen instead to lease a foreign product at nearly double the cost.'' Mr Blade said that Mitsubishi was leasing the i-Miev for $1740 a month for a total cost over three years of $62,640. This compared with $900 a month for the Electron, for a total cost over three years of $48,000. Mr Blade said the Electron was a bigger car with superior performance to the i-Miev and, more importantly, could be plugged into a regular power point for recharging. However, a spokesman for Mr Albanese, Geoff Sinclair, said the government did not choose the Blade Electron because it was not a mass-produced car and did not meet two Australian design standards, although he could not say which ones. Mr Blade said that if the Australian government was not going to buy a locally made electric car, it stood little chance of being mass produced. ''In terms of our vehicle being mass produced, the fact of the matter is that if the Australian government is not going to buy them, then how can they be mass produced? ''It's a chicken and egg thing.''

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2019 at 12:09am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 9:43pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 4:08pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 3:36pm: juliar wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:22pm: And just think coal power is used to recharge these rather useless all electric heaps. Overload one of electric toys and you will overheat the dangerous fire bomb lithium battery with the very real danger that it will then EXPLODE in a FIERY INFERNO!!!!! Hydrogen does not have any of these overloading problems as it just goes and goes like a diesel. That is why IT IS THE FUEL of the FUTURE. And lots of FREE power coming from rooftop solar if you are smart and not dumb and dumber like supporters of the LNP who let private scammers run the electricity grid :( How is solar power free when solar panels and batteries cost over $15K? Do you even have a house to put solar panels on? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D 6.6 kilowatt PV installs for 2.5K with rebates ;) And how much does it cost to fill up the clunker each year plus service and parts ? And what is PULP at the moment ? $1.90 a liter :( A cheap crappy Chinese solar setup might be that cheap it will cost at least double that for quality solar panels and inverter that will last. The Tesla powerwalls are over $10K should we include that cost in your bullshit about free power?

as opposed to taking it up the arse at the fossil fool bowser on a weekly basis and never getting a single cent back. And the reliability of a fossil fool car is ? or haven't you noticed the number of service centers everywhere :D LOL

Heavens! Talking about intelligent stuff has made the looney Greeny Tweedledumb fall out of her tree.

These looney Greenies are just so impractical and so technically obtuse.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 4^th, 2019 at 10:32am:

PZ547 wrote on Jul 4th, 2019 at 6:01am: DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 7:23am: Yadda wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:47pm: Australian, Ace electric vehicles https://www.ace-ev.com.au/ace-cargo/ 1,999px × 727px IMAGE..... https://www.ace-ev.com.au/wp-content/uploads/ACE-Cargo-website.jpg Mentioned on a Ch7 news item tonight. Charge at home ?? How much to buy ?? Only 250 km range atm though.     ....i could live with a 250 km range atm. They are offering versions as a cargo van, a 'yewt', and a sedan. Promoted as a German developed vehicle, Chinese produce/parts, comes as a 'flat pack', 'put it together' product, delivered in 6 boxes. ??? Looks interesting, if it 'works' as advertised. there have been a few threads on this vehicle so far, they look good and their price is mentioned http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1556714464 http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1554003124 thank you I've posted about ACE several times and the fact they have a factory now in Adelaide and expect to produce 15,000 to 25,000 vehicles a year -- most of which they expect will be sold overseas and the founder has mentioned in several interviews that he has been shown ZERO interest or encouragement OR money from out great government because we don't need industry, right. And we don't need job creation here in the lucky-country when it comes to jobs both sides of grubbernment are very selective. They always talk about jobs but it's not just any job. The grubbernent would prefer people to have jobs scraping off plates in a cafeteria or cleaning toilets rather than a job building electric cars. And Labor is no better :( https://www.smh.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-20100724-10pr2.html Quote: Electric car maker angry over import deal AUSTRALIA'S leading electric car manufacturer has blasted the federal government for choosing an imported model to be Australia's first electric trial fleet. In June, the federal Minister for Transport and Infrastructure, Anthony Albanese, announced that the government would be buying 40 imported Mitsubishi i-Miev electric vehicles as a way of encouraging the uptake of electric vehicles. But Castlemaine-based Blade Electric Vehicles said the decision was inexplicable given that its car, the Blade Electron, was better, cheaper, and had been developed with federal government funding. ''We cannot understand why Mr Albanese has chosen to exclude the Electron,'' said Ross Blade, director of BEV. ''The federal government has spent over $100,000 of taxpayers' money on the development of the Blade Electron through the COMET (Commercialising Emerging Technologies) program. Despite the Electron meeting Australia's design standards, the federal government has chosen instead to lease a foreign product at nearly double the cost.'' Mr Blade said that Mitsubishi was leasing the i-Miev for $1740 a month for a total cost over three years of $62,640. This compared with $900 a month for the Electron, for a total cost over three years of $48,000. Mr Blade said the Electron was a bigger car with superior performance to the i-Miev and, more importantly, could be plugged into a regular power point for recharging. However, a spokesman for Mr Albanese, Geoff Sinclair, said the government did not choose the Blade Electron because it was not a mass-produced car and did not meet two Australian design standards, although he could not say which ones. Mr Blade said that if the Australian government was not going to buy a locally made electric car, it stood little chance of being mass produced. ''In terms of our vehicle being mass produced, the fact of the matter is that if the Australian government is not going to buy them, then how can they be mass produced? ''It's a chicken and egg thing.''

thanks.  I missed that but will save it now

What a disgusting farce all members of the LNPALP are

Payola

Grinning assassin bastards

"Loony greeny tweedle dumb"

You are a repetitive little bitch, aren't you?

You're another of the dickheads on here that burnt all the rights of getting any polite discourse.

juliar wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

Heavens! Talking about intelligent stuff has made the looney Greeny Tweedledumb fall out of her tree. These looney Greenies are just so impractical and so technically obtuse.

oK go on

explain yourself

PZ547 wrote on Jul 5^th, 2019 at 2:21pm:

juliar wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 12:42pm: Heavens! Talking about intelligent stuff has made the looney Greeny Tweedledumb fall out of her tree. These looney Greenies are just so impractical and so technically obtuse. oK go on explain yourself

he can't - has no brain. Just enough grey matter to copy and paste from previous posts :D LOL

The loony Greenies are becoming restless as they follow me around like lost puppies because they idolize the ground I walk on.

In the mean time canny Australians avoid the dangerous unsafe pollution spewing inconvenient electric toy cars which can't do a day's work without the dangerous lithium fire bomb overheating and possibly exploding!!!!

Diesel and petrol will dominant until HYDROGEN takes over. Now watch the loony Greenies fall out of their trees.

juliar wrote on Jul 8^th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

The loony Greenies are becoming restless as they follow me around like lost puppies because they idolize the ground I walk on. In the mean time canny Australians avoid the dangerous unsafe pollution spewing inconvenient electric toy cars which can't do a day's work without the dangerous lithium fire bomb overheating and possibly exploding!!!! Diesel and petrol will dominant until HYDROGEN takes over. Now watch the loony Greenies fall out of their trees.

Let's face it … Aussies cannot afford any new cars

being ground into dust by the sitting govt. and its Labor assistants

Car sales down across the board

Retail wetting itself because consumers have learned to not consume

Travel ads everywhere … but when they come back the bills will still be there and people have learned

and we're paying a dozen kings' ransom every hour on all the money 'our' governments plural,  have borrowed.  'Our' debt is a third or more of that saddling the US … except our population, even rising by thousands a day, is one fifteenth that of the US


electric cars?

people are struggling to buy mince

Good point there by mince meat.

But there are still an awful lot of new cars running around on the streets. So someone must be doing all right.

On news said that old cars are involved in a lot of accidents because they are cheap to buy but don't have such good safety features in the advent of an accident.

On the other hand the older cars were built to last while the new ones are built to fall apart as soon as possible.