https://insideevs.com/news/352793/video-volkswagen-id-r-record-nordschleife/
Full lap of the record-breaking run of the Nürburgring Nordschleife in Volkswagen I.D. R takes just 6:05.336 minutes
Volkswagen's team just processed all the recordings from the I.D. R record-breaking run and here we can watch the full lap of the Nürburgring Nordschleife driven by Romain Dumas.
The result of 6:05.336 minutes, at an average speed of 206.96 km/h (128.62 mph), is the emission-free lap record of all time and second only to Porsche 919 Hybrid EVO (5:19.546). The previous EV record was set by the NIO EP9 at 6:45.90 (improved by 40.564 seconds).

Volkswagen I.D. R records with Romain Dumas behind the wheel:
Nürburgring Nordschleife EV record (June 3, 2019): 6:05.336 minutes at an average speed of 206.96 km/h (128.62 mph) over 20.8 km (12.9 mile)
Goodwood Festival of Speed EV record (July, 2018): 43.86 seconds
Pikes Peak International Hill Climb absolute track record (June 24, 2018): 7:57.148 minutes

So the only thing faster than it is a Hybrid :)

Whilst its great its hardly a road going vehicle.

True but the  NIO EP9  is a road supercar EV and is in the top 10 fastest production cars for that track....
New all electric hypercars will be here later this year or next year and on spec even faster...
Fastest production car                  Lamborghini Aventador SVJ - 6:44.97s.
Fastest production Electric car       NIO EP9 at 6:45.90
No new ICE vehicles are on the horizon to go faster though. I think the engineers have just about peaked on how much power they can get out of internal combustion engines but still only starting on electric ones;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iZY5IMn0wg

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 11:38am:

True but the  NIO EP9  is a road supercar EV and is in the top 10 fastest production cars for that track.... New all electric hypercars will be here later this year or next year and on spec even faster... Fastest production car                  Lamborghini Aventador SVJ - 6:44.97s. Fastest production Electric car       NIO EP9 at 6:45.90 No new ICE vehicles are on the horizon to go faster though. I think the engineers have just about peaked on how much power they can get out of internal combustion engines but still only starting on electric ones;)

Lol, this is false, several are on the horizon. Lots of hybrids.

Plus watch the vid, the I.D. R has one big issue, see if you can pick it.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:59am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:38am: True but the  NIO EP9  is a road supercar EV and is in the top 10 fastest production cars for that track.... New all electric hypercars will be here later this year or next year and on spec even faster... Fastest production car                  Lamborghini Aventador SVJ - 6:44.97s. Fastest production Electric car       NIO EP9 at 6:45.90 No new ICE vehicles are on the horizon to go faster though. I think the engineers have just about peaked on how much power they can get out of internal combustion engines but still only starting on electric ones;) Lol, this is false, several are on the horizon. Lots of hybrids. Plus watch the vid, the I.D. R has one big issue, see if you can pick it.

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if they add a electric motor and some batteries they will get more out of a car, but not much more power out of a ICE motor....what is false about that ?


Yup it's owned by VW and they are a horrible company that care about profits more than the health of their customers... but ok ill watch it in the morning when I have my "bonus" data ;)

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:18am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 10:59am: DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:38am: True but the  NIO EP9  is a road supercar EV and is in the top 10 fastest production cars for that track.... New all electric hypercars will be here later this year or next year and on spec even faster... Fastest production car                  Lamborghini Aventador SVJ - 6:44.97s. Fastest production Electric car       NIO EP9 at 6:45.90 No new ICE vehicles are on the horizon to go faster though. I think the engineers have just about peaked on how much power they can get out of internal combustion engines but still only starting on electric ones;) Lol, this is false, several are on the horizon. Lots of hybrids. Plus watch the vid, the I.D. R has one big issue, see if you can pick it. . if they add a electric motor and some batteries they will get more out of a car, but not much more power out of a ICE motor....what is false about that ? Yup it's owned by VW and they are a horrible company that care about profits more than the health of their customers... but ok ill watch it in the morning when I have my "bonus" data ;)

That its not a purely electric car, plus why are you taking myone big issue comment as meaning I am anti-electric car. I'm not, I'm just not hyping them up beyond what they are capable of. And I'll let you in on it without watching. The battery loses power over the lap.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:24am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 11:18am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 10:59am: DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:38am: True but the  NIO EP9  is a road supercar EV and is in the top 10 fastest production cars for that track.... New all electric hypercars will be here later this year or next year and on spec even faster... Fastest production car                  Lamborghini Aventador SVJ - 6:44.97s. Fastest production Electric car       NIO EP9 at 6:45.90 No new ICE vehicles are on the horizon to go faster though. I think the engineers have just about peaked on how much power they can get out of internal combustion engines but still only starting on electric ones;) Lol, this is false, several are on the horizon. Lots of hybrids. Plus watch the vid, the I.D. R has one big issue, see if you can pick it. . if they add a electric motor and some batteries they will get more out of a car, but not much more power out of a ICE motor....what is false about that ? Yup it's owned by VW and they are a horrible company that care about profits more than the health of their customers... but ok ill watch it in the morning when I have my "bonus" data ;) That its not a purely electric car, plus why are you taking myone big issue comment as meaning I am anti-electric car. I'm not, I'm just not hyping them up beyond what they are capable of. And I'll let you in on it without watching. The battery loses power over the lap.

I had no issue about the video and as i said i'll look at it in morning when i'm on bonus data...


it was this Line
Lol, this is false, several are on the horizon. Lots of hybrids.



so how was my statement wrong about ICE vehicals not getting any faster and Internal combustion motors (ICE) not getting any more powerful... ;)

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 11:24am: DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 11:18am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 10:59am: DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:38am: True but the  NIO EP9  is a road supercar EV and is in the top 10 fastest production cars for that track.... New all electric hypercars will be here later this year or next year and on spec even faster... Fastest production car                  Lamborghini Aventador SVJ - 6:44.97s. Fastest production Electric car       NIO EP9 at 6:45.90 No new ICE vehicles are on the horizon to go faster though. I think the engineers have just about peaked on how much power they can get out of internal combustion engines but still only starting on electric ones;) Lol, this is false, several are on the horizon. Lots of hybrids. Plus watch the vid, the I.D. R has one big issue, see if you can pick it. . if they add a electric motor and some batteries they will get more out of a car, but not much more power out of a ICE motor....what is false about that ? Yup it's owned by VW and they are a horrible company that care about profits more than the health of their customers... but ok ill watch it in the morning when I have my "bonus" data ;) That its not a purely electric car, plus why are you taking myone big issue comment as meaning I am anti-electric car. I'm not, I'm just not hyping them up beyond what they are capable of. And I'll let you in on it without watching. The battery loses power over the lap. I had no issue about the video and as i said i'll look at it in morning when i'm on bonus data... it was this Line Lol, this is false, several are on the horizon. Lots of hybrids. so how was my statement wrong about ICE vehicals not getting any faster and Internal combustion motors (ICE) not getting any more powerful... ;)

Easy, https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/7652/Gordon-Murray-Automotive-T.50.html


This will be quicker round the ring compared to the SVJ

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:24am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 11:18am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 10:59am: DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:38am: True but the  NIO EP9  is a road supercar EV and is in the top 10 fastest production cars for that track.... New all electric hypercars will be here later this year or next year and on spec even faster... Fastest production car                  Lamborghini Aventador SVJ - 6:44.97s. Fastest production Electric car       NIO EP9 at 6:45.90 No new ICE vehicles are on the horizon to go faster though. I think the engineers have just about peaked on how much power they can get out of internal combustion engines but still only starting on electric ones;) Lol, this is false, several are on the horizon. Lots of hybrids. Plus watch the vid, the I.D. R has one big issue, see if you can pick it. . if they add a electric motor and some batteries they will get more out of a car, but not much more power out of a ICE motor....what is false about that ? Yup it's owned by VW and they are a horrible company that care about profits more than the health of their customers... but ok ill watch it in the morning when I have my "bonus" data ;) That its not a purely electric car, plus why are you taking myone big issue comment as meaning I am anti-electric car. I'm not, I'm just not hyping them up beyond what they are capable of. And I'll let you in on it without watching. The battery loses power over the lap.

I watched the video, just sounds like a slot car...
Did you mean the led display on the bottom left corner, I couldn't see it well enough.
Most car races only provide enough fuel to do the race, if you mean it was almost empty, that happens with every race car.

Think of Dragsters they only carry enough for 400m


It's all about weight... ;)

Did you mean the led display on the bottom left corner, I couldn't see it well enough.




No I mean if you watch the video, the top speed of the car gradually goes down. At the Schwedenkruez its nearly 270 km/h, but at the long straight at Dottinger Hohe its 250 km/h.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

Did you mean the led display on the bottom left corner, I couldn't see it well enough. No I mean if you watch the video, the top speed of the car gradually goes down. At the Schwedenkruez its nearly 270 km/h, but at the long straight at Dottinger Hohe its 250 km/h.

ahh, be interesting if VW go into more detail with that, was it intended or was there a problem, either way that shows room for improvement.... you would think it was heat related, either the battery or the motor, but just guessing..

With the whole propulsion system id say it would be a fine line between weight and reliability...Almost every car race I've seen has a few DNF's;)

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 12:25pm: Did you mean the led display on the bottom left corner, I couldn't see it well enough. No I mean if you watch the video, the top speed of the car gradually goes down. At the Schwedenkruez its nearly 270 km/h, but at the long straight at Dottinger Hohe its 250 km/h. ahh, be interesting if VW go into more detail with that, was it intended or was there a problem, either way that shows room for improvement.... you would think it was heat related, either the battery or the motor, but just guessing. ;)

Its gotta be battery related. We know the efficiency drops as it heats up, they were employing special chambers to keep everything at 20 degrees.

But what it does show is compared the 919 just how quick the acceleration was. It was 40 seconds slower than the 919 but the 919s top speed was 370.

Thinking about the times i realized the VW electric car beat the fastest ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicle ever on the track by 5 seconds, the only car faster than it has both a ICE motor and a electric motor (hybrid)

6:11.13  Porsche 956  Stefan Bellof  28 May 1983 he got this  racing, in the qualifying rounds...
6:05.336 the speed if the New VW EV.
So the first serious attempt of  a electric race car and on the toughest track in the world on its first attempt beats the best time of a ICE  by 5 sec's...
The car wasn't even built for this track , it was made to race on Pike's peak  and was modified to do Nürburgring

It looks like it was even having problems , slowing down .. ;)

As it's been said , EV's are still just starting to get fast and Batteries look to be the main hinderance with weight and overheating.... so as these are addressed expect exciting times in racing.... ;)

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 10:28am:

Thinking about the times i realized the VW electric car beat the fastest ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicle ever on the track by 5 seconds, the only car faster than it has both a ICE motor and a electric motor (hybrid) 6:11.13  Porsche 956  Stefan Bellof  28 May 1983 he got this  racing, in the qualifying rounds... 6:05.336 the speed if the New VW EV. So the first serious attempt of  a electric race car and on the toughest track in the world on its first attempt beats the best time of a ICE  by 5 sec's... The car wasn't even built for this track , it was made to race on Pike's peak  and was modified to do Nürburgring It looks like it was even having problems , slowing down .. ;) As it's been said , EV's are still just starting to get fast and Batteries look to be the main hinderance with weight and overheating.... so as these are addressed expect exciting times in racing.... ;)

30 years improvement in aero, tyres and suspension.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 7th, 2019 at 10:28am: Thinking about the times i realized the VW electric car beat the fastest ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicle ever on the track by 5 seconds, the only car faster than it has both a ICE motor and a electric motor (hybrid) 6:11.13  Porsche 956  Stefan Bellof  28 May 1983 he got this  racing, in the qualifying rounds... 6:05.336 the speed if the New VW EV. So the first serious attempt of  a electric race car and on the toughest track in the world on its first attempt beats the best time of a ICE  by 5 sec's... The car wasn't even built for this track , it was made to race on Pike's peak  and was modified to do Nürburgring It looks like it was even having problems , slowing down .. ;) As it's been said , EV's are still just starting to get fast and Batteries look to be the main hinderance with weight and overheating.... so as these are addressed expect exciting times in racing.... ;) 30 years improvement in aero, tyres and suspension.

Yeah it's amazing that no ICE vehicle has gone any faster than the one in the 80's considering 30 years of improvements... ;)