Mohammed's wife Aisha, is recorded as opining, that ISLAM was shiite for women.



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WE SEE A COMMON 'PRESENTATION' BY THE MOSLEM,
WHICH DESCRIBES ISLAM, AS A LIBERATING, AND 'SAFE SPACE' FOR WOMEN....

EXAMPLE;


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Yassmin Abdel-Magied


"ISLAM is the most feminist religion" - Yassmin Abdel-Magied




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THEN, WE MAY COME ACROSS A DIFFERENT CITATION,
DESCRIBING THE LAW OF ISLAM, TOWARDS THE WOMAN, AS BEING OPPRESSIVE.


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Mohammed's wife Aisha, is recorded as opining, that ISLAM was shiite for women.



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Quote:

Aisha Describes the Treatment of Women in Islam Friday, May 28, 2010 Muslims in the West often claim that Islam promotes women's rights. Muhammad's wife Aisha, however, said that she never saw any woman suffer as much as Muslim women. ......Notice that the story is about a woman whose Muslim husband beat her until her skin turned green. Aisha takes the woman to Muhammad, hoping that he would deal with the problem. But instead of punishing or even rebuking the woman's husband, Muhammad instead criticizes the woman who was being beaten. No wonder Aisha says that Muslim women are treated worse than pagan women.

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2015/06/aisha-describes-treatment-of-women-in.html





ISLAMIC source [Hadith]....

"I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women."
https://muflihun.com/bukhari/72/715



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Q.
Hey, all of you proto-feminists out there, who are you going to believe ?


When you see [above] two, contradictory, and opposing descriptions, of what ISLAM allows and permits, towards the liberty of women.


One account paints ISLAM in glowing terms, towards the rights of women.
  [as being promoted by moslems]

And another account which purports to show evidences, which expose ISLAM to be a very different 'place'.

Q.
Who are you going to believe ?



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QUESTIONS....

Q.
Do you have a conscience ?

Q.
Do you have a 'healthy' conscience/psyche ?

Q.
Are you,    like others,      going to remain silent, in the face of the lies told by moslems, who live among us ?

Q.
Are you going to remain silent, even when you are confronted by truths which need to be spoken openly ?




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Job 24:13
They are of those that rebel against the light; they know not the ways thereof, nor abide in the paths thereof.


Job 34:2
Hear my words, O ye wise men; and give ear unto me, ye that have knowledge.
3  For the ear trieth words, as the mouth tasteth meat.


Job 34:10
Therefore hearken unto me, ye men of understanding: far be it from God, that he should do wickedness; and from the Almighty, that he should commit iniquity.
11  For the work of a man shall he render unto him, and cause every man to find according to his ways.


Psalms 11:4
The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5  The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
6  Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
7  For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.



Q.
Do you have a conscience ?


Listen,         ...to your heart!

We all do!

We all must!

But, what is it, that is in your heart!!!

Only you [...and God] know.


Matthew 12:35
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.






Q.
Do you know how to separate that which is precious, from that which is vile ?

Our God does!

And he seeks that quality in us too.

Yadda, you have completely taken that quote out of context.

That phrase is talking about the believing women in in comparison to women from other tribes or cultural groups at the time. It is not referring to the treatment of Islamic women by Islamic men, but the treatment of Muslim women in comparison to other women
at the time.

Islam is shite for Muslim women, double shite for no Muslim ones.
You can also leave out 'women's and it stands up well.
Islam is shite for muslims  and double shite for non muslims.In every context.

In every context.      ...double plus!

Auggie wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Yadda, you have completely taken that quote out of context. That phrase is talking about the believing women in in comparison to women from other tribes or cultural groups at the time. It is not referring to the treatment of Islamic women by Islamic men, but the treatment of Muslim women in comparison to other women at the time.

???


I do not see it Auggie.





IMAGE.....
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3oR14uAu3B8/VXDh4Hp-5oI/AAAAAAAAFZ4/8LldgqIPYS4/s640/Aisha%2BMeme.jpg

Mohammed's wife Aisha, is recorded as opining, that ISLAM was shiite for women.



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Quote:

Aisha Describes the Treatment of Women in Islam Friday, May 28, 2010 Muslims in the West often claim that Islam promotes women's rights. Muhammad's wife Aisha, however, said that she never saw any woman suffer as much as Muslim women. ......Notice that the story is about a woman whose Muslim husband beat her until her skin turned green. Aisha takes the woman to Muhammad, hoping that he would deal with the problem. But instead of punishing or even rebuking the woman's husband, Muhammad instead criticizes the woman who was being beaten. No wonder Aisha says that Muslim women are treated worse than pagan women.

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2015/06/aisha-describes-treatment-of-women-in.html

Frank wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

Islam is shite for Muslim women, double shite for no Muslim ones. You can also leave out 'women's and it stands up well. Islam is shite for muslims  and double shite for non muslims.In every context.

A seventh-century philosophical tradition is anti-woman and misogynistic??

Who'd have ever thunk it?

Auggie wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Yadda, you have completely taken that quote out of context. That phrase is talking about the believing women in in comparison to women from other tribes or cultural groups at the time. It is not referring to the treatment of Islamic women by Islamic men, but the treatment of Muslim women in comparison to other women at the time.

Who, other than Islamic men, do you think were mistreating them?

Shiite for the women, but sunni for the men.

women in islam

qur'an4.015 : If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way.

Self explanatory, starve a woman to death if four witnesses say she is a bit loose.

4.034 : Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the
husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, lastly beat them ; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)

women should be devoutly obedient to their husband, if he thinks she is playing up, admonish her first, don't sleep with her second, give her a hiding third.

qur'an 24.6: As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing) by Allah that he is of those who speak the truth;

If any muslim accuses his wife, even if he has no witnesses, his word is four times greater than hers

qur’an 24:33: Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

This one's a beauty, a muslim can force a maid into prostitution , the old moon god allah is forgiving

Then we have:

women in the Hadeeth
Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”

Tabari I:280 “Allah said, ‘It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.’ Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are
stupid.”

Bukhari:V1B22N28 “The Prophet said: ‘I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.’ When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, ‘All the favors done for them by their husbands.’”

Muslim:B1N142 “‘O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.’ A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah’s Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: ‘You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.’ Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, ‘Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.’”

Ah the benign perfection of islam.

A sick bloody woman hating death cult.

Auggie wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 11:54pm:

Frank wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 9:37pm: Islam is shite for Muslim women, double shite for no Muslim ones. You can also leave out 'women's and it stands up well. Islam is shite for muslims  and double shite for non muslims.In every context. A seventh-century philosophical tradition is anti-woman and misogynistic?? Who'd have ever thunk it?

;D ;D :D :D

It's  a philosophical tradition now, is it?

Islam is the philosophical tradition of peace, don't  you know.



Your desire to be a useful idiot for sharia is boundless.

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2019 at 10:04am:

Auggie wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 11:54pm: Frank wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 9:37pm: Islam is shite for Muslim women, double shite for no Muslim ones. You can also leave out 'women's and it stands up well. Islam is shite for muslims  and double shite for non muslims.In every context. A seventh-century philosophical tradition is anti-woman and misogynistic?? Who'd have ever thunk it? ;D ;D :D :D It's  a philosophical tradition now, is it? Islam is the philosophical tradition of peace, don't  you know. Your desire to be a useful idiot for sharia is boundless.

Indeed it is, dear boy. Islam turned the Arab peninsular literate. When it took Constantinople, an interest in Greek philosophy was spawned that spread to the West and created the Renaissance.

One of Islam's professed miracles is Gabriel giving previously illiterate Mohammed the ability to read and write. The symbol of Islam is a book, as every schoolboy knows.

Karnal wrote on May 26^th, 2019 at 10:12am:

Frank wrote on May 26th, 2019 at 10:04am: Auggie wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 11:54pm: Frank wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 9:37pm: Islam is shite for Muslim women, double shite for no Muslim ones. You can also leave out 'women's and it stands up well. Islam is shite for muslims  and double shite for non muslims.In every context. A seventh-century philosophical tradition is anti-woman and misogynistic?? Who'd have ever thunk it? ;D ;D :D :D It's  a philosophical tradition now, is it? Islam is the philosophical tradition of peace, don't  you know. Your desire to be a useful idiot for sharia is boundless. Indeed it is, dear boy. Islam turned the Arab peninsular literate. When it took Constantinople, an interest in Greek philosophy was spawned that spread to the West and created the Renaissance. One of Islam's professed miracles is Gabriel giving previously illiterate Mohammed the ability to read and write. The symbol of Islam is a book, as every schoolboy knows.

;D ;D

You believe in miracles now!  :D
And the symbol of Islam is the moon and the sword. No book on any Muslim flag. Plenty of moons and weapons.

Your first line is two agit-prop lies as well.

Karnal wrote on May 26^th, 2019 at 10:12am:

Indeed it is, dear boy. Islam turned the Arab peninsular literate. When it took Constantinople, an interest in Greek philosophy was spawned that spread to the West and created the Renaissance. One of Islam's professed miracles is Gabriel giving previously illiterate Mohammed the ability to read and write. The symbol of Islam is a book, as every schoolboy knows.

We should thank ISLAM, for the literacy of Arabs, and for the 'discovery' of Greek philosophy ?

:D        :D


Their introduction [in the West] don't appear to have had any beneficial effect on you K.

e.g.
Introducing literacy and Greek philosophy within our society, didn't impart the benefits of    reason    upon yourself, and clearly not on many other socialist nog heads.


i.e.
You seem to argue in this forum,        that a group of people who follow a religion which teaches them that it is LAWFUL and virtuous to kill other human beings who do not believe what they [moslems] believe, are no significant danger to other human beings!

What benefit, in reason, was the reading Greek philosophy, to people like yourself K ???




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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac" - Yadda QUESTION; What about the innocent moslems ? IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems. How so [logically] ? QUESTION; How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ? QUESTION; How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ? QUESTION; How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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WHAT MOHAMMED SAID.....

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260



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MORE, OF WHAT MOHAMMED SAID.....

ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06


ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

I blame Islam.

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I don't see how any non-Muslim can trust a practicing Muslim. Do they believe every aspect of the Koran EXCEPT the bit about not making friends with the infidel?

When Ahok tried to say it's possible they put him in jail for blasphemy. In cuddly, progressive ( :D) Indonesia.

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2019 at 8:26pm:

I don't see how any non-Muslim can trust a practicing Muslim.

I know, but some of us are trying to understand how one can trust a country-shopping neo-Nazi who likes Danish.

You?

Karnal wrote on May 26^th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

Frank wrote on May 26th, 2019 at 8:26pm: I don't see how any non-Muslim can trust a practicing Muslim. I know, but some of us are trying to understand how one can trust a country-shopping neo-Nazi who likes Danish. You?

Laaaaaaaame

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Karnal wrote on May 26th, 2019 at 9:15pm: Frank wrote on May 26th, 2019 at 8:26pm: I don't see how any non-Muslim can trust a practicing Muslim. I know, but some of us are trying to understand how one can trust a country-shopping neo-Nazi who likes Danish. You? Laaaaaaaame

They have the highest death toll down here, dear boy. Best to be careful, don't you think?

How are we supposed to tell them apart from the good ones?

The fact that Aisha became that pedophile’s wife at age 6 says it all really!

Muhammad fell in love with her while peaking through the neighbour's fence at her while she was playing with her dolls.

If she was six when he married her, how long was he courting her before their nuptials?

Wasn't the norm about 2 years of courtship before marriage in those days?

Does this mean old muhammad actually got the hots for her when she was only 4 years old?

It just gets sicker and sicker, no wonder islam is what it is today, with old pedophile muhammad as their example.

moses wrote on May 27^th, 2019 at 8:30pm:

If she was six when he married her, how long was he courting her before their nuptials? Wasn't the norm about 2 years of courtship before marriage in those days? Does this mean old muhammad actually got the hots for her when she was only 4 years old? It just gets sicker and sicker, no wonder islam is what it is today, with old pedophile muhammad as their example.

I'm not shure, Moses, but you've been engaging in discussion on this issue for a number of years now.

Would you like to tell us how old Aisha was when she got with Moh?

Karnal wrote on May 27^th, 2019 at 9:06pm:

moses wrote on May 27th, 2019 at 8:30pm: If she was six when he married her, how long was he courting her before their nuptials? Wasn't the norm about 2 years of courtship before marriage in those days? Does this mean old muhammad actually got the hots for her when she was only 4 years old? It just gets sicker and sicker, no wonder islam is what it is today, with old pedophile muhammad as their example. I'm not shure, Moses, but you've been engaging in discussion on this issue for a number of years now. Would you like to tell us how old Aisha was when she got with Moh?

Moh, the dirty, rutting bastard (can I say that?)

i'm sure the sex slave angle was exploited by ISIS in its recruiting videos.

if you are a bit of a loser with no power and no girlfriend and living in manchester and they tell you, you can have a gun, teenage sex slaves and you get to go to paradise for martyrdom....well, you get to be a muslim james bond if you join!!!!

sounds a lot better then being a chode on benefits in manchester and watching porn in the basement of your flat (which probably doesnt even have a basement )

aquascoot wrote on May 27^th, 2019 at 9:28pm:

i'm sure the sex slave angle was exploited by ISIS in its recruiting videos. if you are a bit of a loser with no power and no girlfriend and living in manchester and they tell you, you can have a gun, teenage sex slaves and you get to go to paradise for martyrdom....well, you get to be a muslim james bond if you join!!!! sounds a lot better then being a chode on benefits in manchester and watching porn in the basement of your flat (which probably doesnt even have a basement )

Sure is, Aquascoot. Would you recommend young men join ISIS or learn how to MeDiTaTe?

Frank wrote on May 27^th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

Karnal wrote on May 27th, 2019 at 9:06pm: moses wrote on May 27th, 2019 at 8:30pm: If she was six when he married her, how long was he courting her before their nuptials? Wasn't the norm about 2 years of courtship before marriage in those days? Does this mean old muhammad actually got the hots for her when she was only 4 years old? It just gets sicker and sicker, no wonder islam is what it is today, with old pedophile muhammad as their example. I'm not shure, Moses, but you've been engaging in discussion on this issue for a number of years now. Would you like to tell us how old Aisha was when she got with Moh? Moh, the dirty, rutting bastard (can I say that?)

Yes, I think you can say that, dear chap.

You're both corpses, no?

Karnal wrote on May 28^th, 2019 at 1:30pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 27th, 2019 at 9:28pm: i'm sure the sex slave angle was exploited by ISIS in its recruiting videos. if you are a bit of a loser with no power and no girlfriend and living in manchester and they tell you, you can have a gun, teenage sex slaves and you get to go to paradise for martyrdom....well, you get to be a muslim james bond if you join!!!! sounds a lot better then being a chode on benefits in manchester and watching porn in the basement of your flat (which probably doesnt even have a basement ) Sure is, Aquascoot. Would you recommend young men join ISIS or learn how to MeDiTaTe?

Not too many angry isolated horny chodes are going to have the insight to go to an ashram.
But the idea of having sex slaves, a gun, getting to hang with your bro's and then go to paradise is a marketers wet dream . I,m surprised so few wanted to go.
Jesus, if I was 17, I'd probably apply  :D

aquascoot wrote on May 28^th, 2019 at 8:11pm:

Karnal wrote on May 28th, 2019 at 1:30pm: aquascoot wrote on May 27th, 2019 at 9:28pm: i'm sure the sex slave angle was exploited by ISIS in its recruiting videos. if you are a bit of a loser with no power and no girlfriend and living in manchester and they tell you, you can have a gun, teenage sex slaves and you get to go to paradise for martyrdom....well, you get to be a muslim james bond if you join!!!! sounds a lot better then being a chode on benefits in manchester and watching porn in the basement of your flat (which probably doesnt even have a basement ) Sure is, Aquascoot. Would you recommend young men join ISIS or learn how to MeDiTaTe? Not too many angry isolated horny chodes are going to have the insight to go to an ashram. But the idea of having sex slaves, a gun, getting to hang with your bro's and then go to paradise is a marketers wet dream . I,m surprised so few wanted to go. Jesus, if I was 17, I'd probably apply  :D

I see. Is that what you recommend to those young men who seek your advice on the "narrow path to success"?

Karnal wrote on May 28^th, 2019 at 9:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 28th, 2019 at 8:11pm: Karnal wrote on May 28th, 2019 at 1:30pm: aquascoot wrote on May 27th, 2019 at 9:28pm: i'm sure the sex slave angle was exploited by ISIS in its recruiting videos. if you are a bit of a loser with no power and no girlfriend and living in manchester and they tell you, you can have a gun, teenage sex slaves and you get to go to paradise for martyrdom....well, you get to be a muslim james bond if you join!!!! sounds a lot better then being a chode on benefits in manchester and watching porn in the basement of your flat (which probably doesnt even have a basement ) Sure is, Aquascoot. Would you recommend young men join ISIS or learn how to MeDiTaTe? Not too many angry isolated horny chodes are going to have the insight to go to an ashram. But the idea of having sex slaves, a gun, getting to hang with your bro's and then go to paradise is a marketers wet dream . I,m surprised so few wanted to go. Jesus, if I was 17, I'd probably apply  :D I see. Is that what you recommend to those young men who seek your advice on the "narrow path to success"?

no !!!

but how many times do i have to say that most people WILL NOT follow the narrow path.

garbage is the default.
failure is the norm.

you offer all that stimulation wrapped up in an eventual paradise and people will like that,'
they will like it in the way they like big macs and porn.

some of the home grown terrorists in england and france and sri lanka were university educated and priveledged kids.
they werent poor people who had a grievance.
they had no grievance.

but they fell in love with the ideology .

one can see this in some of the evangelical christians in the USA who see trump might usher in biblical armageddon.
they see the prospect of nuclear war with korea as biblical armageddon and like the idea.

you have to get it thru that thick skull of yours that the ideology of islam is dangerous.

1
5 % of the population are a bit suicidal.
to offer them paradise for strapping on a suicide vest is just a very very bad idea

I know, dear. How many times do you say those lazy young men you lecture will never follow the "narrow road to success"?

Each and every day, shurely.

Still, that doesn't stop us being smug and superior, now does it? We must at least try to make them feel inferior - this bolsters us as the superior class, makes them feel all butthurt and envious, oh boo hoo hoo.

You get that polio-ridden son of yours back on the horse, Aquascoot. If he can't pull his weight, he's out.

Karnal wrote on May 29^th, 2019 at 10:43pm:

I know, dear. How many times do you say those lazy young men you lecture will never follow the "narrow road to success"? Each and every day, shurely. Still, that doesn't stop us being smug and superior, now does it? We must at least try to make them feel inferior - this bolsters us as the superior class, makes them feel all butthurt and envious, oh boo hoo hoo. You get that polio-ridden son of yours back on the horse, Aquascoot. If he can't pull his weight, he's out.

your response is the usual response to the "self help" message.
people dont want to take action , but they cant admit THAT to themselves so their ego focuses on hate.
i would suspect a lot of the hatred of trump comes down to people who think THEY HAVE A SUPERIOR INTELLECT to trump so why is he flying around in jets with a hot wife and their life is garbage.
outrage is the consolation prize to stop them blowing their brains out.

but tell me karmal, if we have a very angry and rebellious youth and we DONT get him on the narrow road to success, then whats to stop him/her becoming prey to "ideological possession".

now if you fall under the ideology of the mormons or the scientologists or go join a kibbutz or an ashram, thats not such a bad thing.

but if you fall under the sway of the jihaddis and you might be like that mother who strapped on a suicide vest and blew up not just some random citizens but her own kids.

or was she just an evil person who was going to do that anyway.
nothing to do with islam  ::) ::) ::)

The superior man doesn't tell anyone to do anything, dear. He just is.

Oh, how your Mr Trumps just love telling young men to do things. Read the Bible! Don't slouch! Get citcumcised! Get a job!

Those boy scouts benefited marvelllously from Mr Trump's motivational speech about rival ageing property developers and their hookers, but did they follow any of it?

Self help books either go unread or un-followed. Plenty get bought, it's big business. But do you know? The same audience buys them, each and every one. They drop the 7 habits of Highly Successful People and move onto the Superhighway to Success. They never do any of it. I'm sure most just use them to lecture the youth of today.

The superior man doesn't do any of that, he just goes on his way. He'll give you some directions if you ask, but he knows to steer people from the higher rocky paths that would see them perish.

Would the superior man be capable of using the Quran to recruit wayward youth with a promise of paradise for martyrdom I doubt the superior man could use the teachings of The book of Mormon or the teachings of the Anglican church for such a purpose

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2019 at 10:28am:

Would the superior man be capable of using the Quran to recruit wayward youth with a promise of paradise for martyrdom I doubt the superior man could use the teachings of The book of Mormon or the teachings of the Anglican church for such a purpose

No superior man I know would encourage the youth of today to become martyrs. The superior man knows that when you die, you rot. Nobody knows you when you're dead.

The superior man doesn't use any instruction books, dear. He teaches by example. As Augustine said, "preach - and when necessary, use words."

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 30th, 2019 at 10:28am: Would the superior man be capable of using the Quran to recruit wayward youth with a promise of paradise for martyrdom I doubt the superior man could use the teachings of The book of Mormon or the teachings of the Anglican church for such a purpose No superior man I know would encourage the youth of today to become martyrs. The superior man knows that when you die, you rot. Nobody knows you when you're dead. The superior man doesn't use any instruction books, dear. He teaches by example. As Augustine said, "preach - and when necessary, use words."

examples, like self help books are rather ineffective.

i could set up my carrot and lebanese cucumber stall in front of a Pizza Hut, but most people will walk straight on by and exit with a double cheese crust supreme .

therefore, since people are prone to possession by "bad ideas", should we not try to limit the number of "bad ideas' in the world.
is paradise from martyrdom not a "bad idea"

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Karnal wrote on May 30th, 2019 at 1:23pm: aquascoot wrote on May 30th, 2019 at 10:28am: Would the superior man be capable of using the Quran to recruit wayward youth with a promise of paradise for martyrdom I doubt the superior man could use the teachings of The book of Mormon or the teachings of the Anglican church for such a purpose No superior man I know would encourage the youth of today to become martyrs. The superior man knows that when you die, you rot. Nobody knows you when you're dead. The superior man doesn't use any instruction books, dear. He teaches by example. As Augustine said, "preach - and when necessary, use words." examples, like self help books are rather ineffective. i could set up my carrot and lebanese cucumber stall in front of a Pizza Hut, but most people will walk straight on by and exit with a double cheese crust supreme . therefore, since people are prone to possession by "bad ideas", should we not try to limit the number of "bad ideas' in the world. is paradise from martyrdom not a "bad idea"

Ah yes, but if you went up to them in the food court, bit into then slowly masticated a delicious carrot, all the while expressing your pleasure at such a tasty treat, they'd come around for shure.

I'll have what she's having, dear.

Auggie wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Yadda, you have completely taken that quote out of context. That phrase is talking about the believing women in in comparison to women from other tribes or cultural groups at the time. It is not referring to the treatment of Islamic women by Islamic men, but the treatment of Muslim women in comparison to other women at the time.

What a load of codswallop

Was Persia ruled by a female when Muhammad was alive and preaching the Islam delusion?

Was Muhammads first wife Khadija one of the richest businesswomen in Arabia when he married her?


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Narrated `Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet (ﷺ) praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him." https://sunnah.com/bukhari/8/158

Does that verse tell us how to stop muslims tapping their heads on the ground with their asses in the air while facing Mecca in the streets or any public place?
:) :) ;)

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Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind." https://sunnah.com/bukhari/52/22

What do the bearded nutjobs who preach Islam mean when they mention the deficiency of a woman's mind?

Why do pseudo feminists give this ancient belief a fee pass from any criticism?

Baronvonrort wrote on May 30^th, 2019 at 4:10pm:

Was Persia ruled by a female when Muhammad was alive and preaching the Islam delusion?

Was Persia rule by a female when they followed Zoroastrianism?

Hi Auggie.


Auggie wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Yadda, you have completely taken that quote out of context. That phrase is talking about the believing women in in comparison to women from other tribes or cultural groups at the time. It is not referring to the treatment of Islamic women by Islamic men, but the treatment of Muslim women in comparison to other women at the time.

Who, other than Islamic men, do you think were mistreating them?

Sahih al-Bukhari 511: Book 8, Hadith 158

The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet (ﷺ) praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him."

Poor bloody woman, she disliked to face him.

In plain common sense (totally missing in muzzies and loony leftards), if you think about it, when Aisha was mature enough to be a mother and hold the natural protective instincts of a mother she would have hated muhammad, for she would by instinct know that it is dangerous to a child of a mere 6 - 9 years to be raped by a man.

we all know of the physical and mental dangers to young children being raped by adults.

Anyone who does not condemn the psycho muhammad for his evil deeds is just as sick as him.

freediver wrote on May 30^th, 2019 at 7:33pm:

Hi Auggie. Auggie wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 8:48pm: Yadda, you have completely taken that quote out of context. That phrase is talking about the believing women in in comparison to women from other tribes or cultural groups at the time. It is not referring to the treatment of Islamic women by Islamic men, but the treatment of Muslim women in comparison to other women at the time. Who, other than Islamic men, do you think were mistreating them?

Suffering doesn't mean necessarily mean mistreatment by people, it could refer to economic circumstances or life in general.

Auggie wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2019 at 10:08pm:

freediver wrote on May 30th, 2019 at 7:33pm: Hi Auggie. Auggie wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 8:48pm: Yadda, you have completely taken that quote out of context. That phrase is talking about the believing women in in comparison to women from other tribes or cultural groups at the time. It is not referring to the treatment of Islamic women by Islamic men, but the treatment of Muslim women in comparison to other women at the time. Who, other than Islamic men, do you think were mistreating them? Suffering doesn't mean necessarily mean mistreatment by people, it could refer to economic circumstances or life in general.

So you don't think it had anything to do with Aisha taking a woman to Mo who had been beaten by her husband till her skin turned green, and Muhammad doing nothing about it, other than making fun of the situation?

It actually does say that it was about the poor woman being given a full on hiding by her beloved husband.

But the *moderates* tell us that is actually code for tea and bickies under the talking palm tree, third on the left just past the talking rock.

There will be childrens' rides on the flying donkey and a who can squat the lowest while having a pea tournament. (playing with their dicks after peeing will be run later in the cool of the evening.

All good clean muslim fun.

moses wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 3:36pm:

There will be childrens' rides on the flying donkey and a who can squat the lowest while having a pea tournament. (playing with their dicks after peeing will be run later in the cool of the evening.

Where?

tea and bickies under the talking palm tree, third on the left just past the talking rock.

moses wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

tea and bickies under the talking palm tree, third on the left just past the talking rock.

Anywhere near the burning bush?

Oh no the burning bush represents purity and righteousness, it doesn't grow anywhere near the talking trees rocks and flying donkies.

moses wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Oh no the burning bush represents purity and righteousness, it doesn't grow anywhere near the talking trees rocks and flying donkies.

It's in Arabia, Moses - right next to the rocks and donkeys.

Do you know about the righteous laws of Moses?

freediver wrote on May 30^th, 2019 at 7:33pm:

Hi Auggie. Auggie wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 8:48pm: Yadda, you have completely taken that quote out of context. That phrase is talking about the believing women in in comparison to women from other tribes or cultural groups at the time. It is not referring to the treatment of Islamic women by Islamic men, but the treatment of Muslim women in comparison to other women at the time. Who, other than Islamic men, do you think were mistreating them?

Muslim men mistreating women is Alladin's will, it's in the Koran and the hadiths. And the Mohammedan ladies like it, too, you can see it on their face veils.

Non-Muslim men getting near the covered chattels will get the chop, of course.


You ask silly questions, FD, OBVIOUSLY ignorant of the CONTEXT!!! Typical kuffar evil islamophobe.

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It's in Arabia, Moses - right next to the rocks and donkeys. Do you know about the righteous laws of Moses?

The talking trees stones and flying donkeys have all sworn to kill out the burning bushes, why they even predict that eventually the burning bushes will be hiding behind the talking trees and rocks, then the trees and rocks are going to cooee out to the muzzies to come and kill the hiding burning bushes.

With regards to the law of Moses, I do recall hearing something about the people of the cross doing away with said law 2019 years ago.

Apparently the talking trees, rocks and flying donkeys all squat down to pee and play with their dicks afterwards.

That's about it I think.

moses wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

[quote] With regards to the law of Moses, I do recall hearing something about the people of the cross doing away with said law 2019 years ago.

The laws of Moses is for God's Chosen People, Moses. The People of the Cross follow derivatives of imperial Roman and European Law.

God's Chosen People cut off parts of their baby boys' dicks and suck their blood. They do this to keep a deal one of their ancestors they made with God. They slaughter baby lambs and sprinkle their blood on their doorsteps. If they don't do this, they believe God will kill their sons. They drink wine every Friday to celebrate the blood of their sons and male slaves. Every prayer they say is a drop of blood.   

Do they tell you all this on Jihadwatch?

Yes, the Muslims follow this devious prophet called Abraham. He started all this.

I blame Islam. You?

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The laws of Moses is for God's Chosen People, Moses. The People of the Cross follow derivatives of imperial Roman and European Law. God's Chosen People cut off parts of their baby boys' dicks and suck their blood. They do this to keep a deal one of their ancestors they made with God. They slaughter baby lambs and sprinkle their blood on their doorsteps. If they don't do this, they believe God will kill their sons. They drink wine every Friday to celebrate the blood of their sons and male slaves. Every prayer they say is a drop of blood.    Do they tell you all this on Jihadwatch?

Suck blood, drink wine on a Friday etc.? Methinks maybe you're engaging in fallacy?

Sprinkling lambs blood? I don't have a clue what they actually do today 2019, I do recall hearing that many thousands of years ago they were told to paint a cross of lambs blood over their doorways, to save their children from the mass killing of the firstborn sons of the Egyptians who held them in slavery. (many believe this is the spiritual foretelling of the messiah being crucified so that His blood on the cross will save the believers)

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Yes, the Muslims follow this devious prophet called Abraham. He started all this. I blame Islam. You?

Oh I certainly blame islam and it's pathetic worshiping of a practicing thief liar pedophile rapist torturer and mass murderer muhammad, as their prophet and example for all mankind

moses wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 1:30pm:

Quote: The laws of Moses is for God's Chosen People, Moses. The People of the Cross follow derivatives of imperial Roman and European Law. God's Chosen People cut off parts of their baby boys' dicks and suck their blood. They do this to keep a deal one of their ancestors they made with God. They slaughter baby lambs and sprinkle their blood on their doorsteps. If they don't do this, they believe God will kill their sons. They drink wine every Friday to celebrate the blood of their sons and male slaves. Every prayer they say is a drop of blood.    Do they tell you all this on Jihadwatch? Suck blood, drink wine on a Friday etc.? Methinks maybe you're engaging in fallacy? Sprinkling lambs blood? I don't have a clue what they actually do today 2019, I do recall hearing that many thousands of years ago they were told to paint a cross of lambs blood over their doorways, to save their children from the mass killing of the firstborn sons of the Egyptians who held them in slavery. (many believe this is the spiritual foretelling of the messiah being crucified so that His blood on the cross will save the believers.

The Messiah has not yet come, Moses. God's Chosen People still do all these things, one of which is their "blood covenant" with Jehovah.

That's where Jehovah told Abraham to go to a mountain and kill his son. Then Jehovah changed His mind and told Abraham to cut off the end of his descendants' dicks instead.

Talking rocks? Flying carpets? Djins?

I'd say they pale in comparison to forming a blood covenant with the Almighty, no?

Should we make God's Chosen People denounce the evil parts of their book too?

I thought that God told Abraham not to kill his son because He had provided the sacrifice (you know the  bit about the ram in the thicket?)

Again I think most people of the cross see this as the spiritual message that if you have faith (as Abraham had), then God will provide.

The book of the people of the cross is very clear about this fact, the old time law of sacrifice was discarded 2019 years ago, now these people are justified by faith.

Now about the book of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys, it is over run with instructions to rape torture pillage and murder your way across the land, the reinvented moon god allah is quiet clear about his hatred for non believers apostates and corrupters, why there is even a verse which tells muslims that allah could have killed these people, but he wants muzzies to kill them as a test.

A truly evil book is the chronicle of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys.

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 6:12am:

Auggie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 10:08pm: freediver wrote on May 30th, 2019 at 7:33pm: Hi Auggie. Auggie wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 8:48pm: Yadda, you have completely taken that quote out of context. That phrase is talking about the believing women in in comparison to women from other tribes or cultural groups at the time. It is not referring to the treatment of Islamic women by Islamic men, but the treatment of Muslim women in comparison to other women at the time. Who, other than Islamic men, do you think were mistreating them? Suffering doesn't mean necessarily mean mistreatment by people, it could refer to economic circumstances or life in general. So you don't think it had anything to do with Aisha taking a woman to Mo who had been beaten by her husband till her skin turned green, and Muhammad doing nothing about it, other than making fun of the situation?

There's a common misconception that religious Prophets are absolute dictators. Just like other forms of authoritarianism, there is a network of power. In this case you've mentioned, Muhammad would've been faced with the choice of pissing off an important member of the patriarchy an power structure and hence undermining his position as a leader and Prophet, or accepting it and 'living to fight for a another day'.

moses wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 2:42pm:

I thought that God told Abraham not to kill his son because He had provided the sacrifice (you know the  bit about the ram in the thicket?) Again I think most people of the cross see this as the spiritual message that if you have faith (as Abraham had), then God will provide. The book of the people of the cross is very clear about this fact, the old time law of sacrifice was discarded 2019 years ago, now these people are justified by faith. Now about the book of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys, it is over run with instructions to rape torture pillage and murder your way across the land, the reinvented moon god allah is quiet clear about his hatred for non believers apostates and corrupters, why there is even a verse which tells muslims that allah could have killed these people, but he wants muzzies to kill them as a test. A truly evil book is the chronicle of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys.

Well, you know God said that 'thou shall not kill', and then ordered the Prophet Samuel to massacre the entire tribe of the Midanites. "Kill every man, woman and child, oxen..."

moses wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 2:42pm:

I thought that God told Abraham not to kill his son because He had provided the sacrifice (you know the  bit about the ram in the thicket?) Again I think most people of the cross see this as the spiritual message that if you have faith (as Abraham had), then God will provide. The book of the people of the cross is very clear about this fact, the old time law of sacrifice was discarded 2019 years ago, now these people are justified by faith. Now about the book of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys, it is over run with instructions to rape torture pillage and murder your way across the land, the reinvented moon god allah is quiet clear about his hatred for non believers apostates and corrupters, why there is even a verse which tells muslims that allah could have killed these people, but he wants muzzies to kill them as a test. A truly evil book is the chronicle of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys.

We're not discussing the People of the Cross, dear, we're discussing God's Chosen People, who live over in Arabia next to the Muselman.

Now the Muselman, he got his backward tinted religion off God's Chosen People. They have this really evil (but wise) book, and your Muselman thought he'd reform it, make it a bit nicer, less exclusive.

So I'm curious. Why do you want the Muselman to purge the evil in his book, but not the Jew?

Karnal wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 8:00pm:

So I'm curious. Why do you want the Muselman to purge the evil in his book, but not the Jew?

Robert Spencer says it's because the OT is descriptive, whilst the Quran is prescriptive.

Auggie wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 7:39pm:

moses wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 2:42pm: I thought that God told Abraham not to kill his son because He had provided the sacrifice (you know the  bit about the ram in the thicket?) Again I think most people of the cross see this as the spiritual message that if you have faith (as Abraham had), then God will provide. The book of the people of the cross is very clear about this fact, the old time law of sacrifice was discarded 2019 years ago, now these people are justified by faith. Now about the book of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys, it is over run with instructions to rape torture pillage and murder your way across the land, the reinvented moon god allah is quiet clear about his hatred for non believers apostates and corrupters, why there is even a verse which tells muslims that allah could have killed these people, but he wants muzzies to kill them as a test. A truly evil book is the chronicle of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys. Well, you know God said that 'thou shall not kill', and then ordered the Prophet Samuel to massacre the entire tribe of the Midanites. "Kill every man, woman and child, oxen..."

I know. The Quran is really nice in comparison to the Torah. Oh, God is still cranky and jealous, but he's merciful too. He tells the Muselman not to kill anyone unless they try to kill you.

Why do you think Moses says the chronicle of the talking trees is so evil when the Torah says your Jew can kill anyone God says, including their own baby sons?

Do you think it's because he's tinted?

Auggie wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 8:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 8:00pm: So I'm curious. Why do you want the Muselman to purge the evil in his book, but not the Jew? Robert Spencer says it's because the OT is descriptive, whilst the Quran is prescriptive.

I don't think Leviticus is meant to be descriptive, Auggie - unless it's describing how to burn witches.

Karnal wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 7:39pm: moses wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 2:42pm: I thought that God told Abraham not to kill his son because He had provided the sacrifice (you know the  bit about the ram in the thicket?) Again I think most people of the cross see this as the spiritual message that if you have faith (as Abraham had), then God will provide. The book of the people of the cross is very clear about this fact, the old time law of sacrifice was discarded 2019 years ago, now these people are justified by faith. Now about the book of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys, it is over run with instructions to rape torture pillage and murder your way across the land, the reinvented moon god allah is quiet clear about his hatred for non believers apostates and corrupters, why there is even a verse which tells muslims that allah could have killed these people, but he wants muzzies to kill them as a test. A truly evil book is the chronicle of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys. Well, you know God said that 'thou shall not kill', and then ordered the Prophet Samuel to massacre the entire tribe of the Midanites. "Kill every man, woman and child, oxen..." I know. The Quran is really nice in comparison to the Torah. Oh, God is still cranky and jealous, but he's merciful too. He tells the Muselman not to kill anyone unless they try to kill you. Why do you think Moses says the chronicle of the talking trees is so evil when the Torah says your Jew can kill anyone God says, including their own baby sons? Do you think it's because he's tinted?

Where does it say that?

You also never explained to us how Muhamamd defined a minimum age. Was it by having sex with little children by any chance?

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 8:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 8:13pm: Auggie wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 7:39pm: moses wrote on Jun 8th, 2019 at 2:42pm: I thought that God told Abraham not to kill his son because He had provided the sacrifice (you know the  bit about the ram in the thicket?) Again I think most people of the cross see this as the spiritual message that if you have faith (as Abraham had), then God will provide. The book of the people of the cross is very clear about this fact, the old time law of sacrifice was discarded 2019 years ago, now these people are justified by faith. Now about the book of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys, it is over run with instructions to rape torture pillage and murder your way across the land, the reinvented moon god allah is quiet clear about his hatred for non believers apostates and corrupters, why there is even a verse which tells muslims that allah could have killed these people, but he wants muzzies to kill them as a test. A truly evil book is the chronicle of the talking trees rocks and flying donkeys. Well, you know God said that 'thou shall not kill', and then ordered the Prophet Samuel to massacre the entire tribe of the Midanites. "Kill every man, woman and child, oxen..." I know. The Quran is really nice in comparison to the Torah. Oh, God is still cranky and jealous, but he's merciful too. He tells the Muselman not to kill anyone unless they try to kill you. Why do you think Moses says the chronicle of the talking trees is so evil when the Torah says your Jew can kill anyone God says, including their own baby sons? Do you think it's because he's tinted? Where does it say that? You also never explained to us how Muhamamd defined a minimum age. Was it by having sex with little children by any chance?

Do you know who you're talking to?

Say my name.

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So I'm curious. Why do you want the Muselman to purge the evil in his book, but not the Jew?

Well I thought that would be obvious.

I have never heard of a Jew slaughtering as many innocent people as possible with a knife, machete, truck, beheadings, suicide vest etc. etc.. because his writings preach it as the way to the Jewish paradise.

Now the very people you try and excuse for committing every single one of these atrocities against innocent people, do so because their depraved book urges it as the true path for muzzies.

So The Jews' book causes no problems, the muzzies' causes and motivates global terrorism, global refugee problems, hundreds of thousands of child killings, rape torture and mass murder are all done in the name of the old reinvented moon god allah.

You have trouble seeing which one needs to be denounced and purged?

moses wrote on Jun 9^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

Quote: So I'm curious. Why do you want the Muselman to purge the evil in his book, but not the Jew? Well I thought that would be obvious. I have never heard of a Jew slaughtering as many innocent people as possible with a knife, machete, truck, beheadings, suicide vest etc. etc.. because his writings preach it as the way to the Jewish paradise. Now the very people you try and excuse for committing every single one of these atrocities against innocent people, do so because their depraved book urges it as the true path for muzzies. So The Jews' book causes no problems, the muzzies' causes and motivates global terrorism, global refugee problems, hundreds of thousands of child killings, rape torture and mass murder are all done in the name of the old reinvented moon god allah. You have trouble seeing which one needs to be denounced and purged?

Funny how you've failed to see how the Jews act in the Middle East when they are Israelis, Moses.   Not terribly surprising, really but I am sure the Palestinians and Arabs would disagree with your portrayal of Jewish script.   ::)

Auggie wrote reply 56:

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Well, you know God said that 'thou shall not kill', and then ordered the Prophet Samuel to massacre the entire tribe of the Midanites. "Kill every man, woman and child, oxen..."

Indeed it does Auggie however the huge difference between this and the teachings of the muslims to kill, is that the Jews writings are time specific, they are accounts of long gone, past activities of the Hebrews in their Exodus from Egypt, their wanderings in the desert, the taking of the promised land etc..

Whereas the qur'an is written in the present, the hatred of allah for the non believers apostates hypocrites and corruptors is forever.

That is why today 2019 the muzzies are so backward and are synonymous with bloodshed death and destruction.

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Funny how you've failed to see how the Jews act in the Middle East when they are Israelis, Moses.   Not terribly surprising, really but I am sure the Palestinians and Arabs would disagree with your portrayal of Jewish script.

Oh now forky tongue the Jews have been fighting for their very survival since the proclamation of their homeland.

They are surrounded by the muzzies who have sworn to annihilate every single one of them, if the muzzies would only leave them alone, they don't seek world domination (as islam does), all they want is to be left in their promised land nothing more nothing less.

moses wrote on Jun 9^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

Quote: So I'm curious. Why do you want the Muselman to purge the evil in his book, but not the Jew? Well I thought that would be obvious. I have never heard of a Jew slaughtering as many innocent people as possible with a knife, machete, truck, beheadings, suicide vest etc. etc.. because his writings preach it as the way to the Jewish paradise.

That's true, dear. They've done all this to obtain land promised by God.

You?

The global terrorist problem right now is muzzie terrorists.

What the Hebrews did several thousand years ago is not relevant to today.

Today right now, we face a world wide threat of islamic religious terrorism.

muzzie killing muzzie isn't the answer, you don't use guns bombs and wars to fight ideological terrorism, you have to debunk the ideology which drives the terrorists.

The ideology which drives the muslim supremacist hatred and slaughter of the non believer, the hypocrite, the apostate, the corruptor has to be questioned.

That is exactly what has got the muzzie *moderates*  and their loony leftard supporters in such a tizz.

You both know that islam/quran/allah/muhammad simply cant stand up to truth, so you both lie snivel and sneak, always trying to hide the facts about this death cult in order to stop muzzies having to take responsibility for the evil in their doctrine.

The local terrorist problem is white supremacists.

Do you purge and denounce the evil in your anti-tinted texts, Moses?

And upon that day, you'll cease to exist, dear.

which anti tinted texts ?

moses wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 3:38pm:

which anti tinted texts ?

Oh, plenty. There's the fascism of Mussolini and Hitler, the manifestos of Breivik and Tarrant, the wall of Trump.

Do you renounce racism in all its forms and uphold the brotherhood of all men?

I'm curious. I'm keen to know what you think.

You distinctly said your  anti tinted texts.

moses wrote on Jun 9^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Auggie wrote reply 56: Quote: Well, you know God said that 'thou shall not kill', and then ordered the Prophet Samuel to massacre the entire tribe of the Midanites. "Kill every man, woman and child, oxen..." Indeed it does Auggie however the huge difference between this and the teachings of the muslims to kill, is that the Jews writings are time specific, they are accounts of long gone, past activities of the Hebrews in their Exodus from Egypt, their wanderings in the desert, the taking of the promised land etc.. Whereas the qur'an is written in the present, the hatred of allah for the non believers apostates hypocrites and corruptors is forever. That is why today 2019 the muzzies are so backward and are synonymous with bloodshed death and destruction.

How does that make sense? Jews value Moses as the greatest of the Prophets, the lawgiver, yet all of what he revealed (supposedly) is just contextual within a specific time??

I think many Jews would disagree with you.

moses wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 4:10pm:

You distinctly said your  anti tinted texts.

But of course. Are you saying you don't believe in anti-tinted texts?

Would you like me to post a few? We can try a multiple choice.

Auggie wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 5:10pm:

moses wrote on Jun 9th, 2019 at 2:57pm: Auggie wrote reply 56: Quote: Well, you know God said that 'thou shall not kill', and then ordered the Prophet Samuel to massacre the entire tribe of the Midanites. "Kill every man, woman and child, oxen..." Indeed it does Auggie however the huge difference between this and the teachings of the muslims to kill, is that the Jews writings are time specific, they are accounts of long gone, past activities of the Hebrews in their Exodus from Egypt, their wanderings in the desert, the taking of the promised land etc.. Whereas the qur'an is written in the present, the hatred of allah for the non believers apostates hypocrites and corruptors is forever. That is why today 2019 the muzzies are so backward and are synonymous with bloodshed death and destruction. How does that make sense? Jews value Moses as the greatest of the Prophets, the lawgiver, yet all of what he revealed (supposedly) is just contextual within a specific time?? I think many Jews would disagree with you.

But of course. Moses knows that. He understands Leviticus was meant for all time, at least until the Mossiach and Judgement Day comes.

Moses is just playing games. Your Muselman calls this taqiyya.

You?

Leviticus was definitely sent down the gurgler 2019 years ago by the Christians, the Jews are today not following the many and varied verses of barbarity which were common place thousands of years ago.

So Leviticus would be called dead in the water for all intents and purposes.


Auggie wrote

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How does that make sense? Jews value Moses as the greatest of the Prophets, the lawgiver, yet all of what he revealed (supposedly) is just contextual within a specific time?? I think many Jews would disagree with you.

So now you're telling us that the Jews are stoning people to death etc. etc.?

moses wrote on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

Leviticus was definitely sent down the gurgler 2019 years ago by the Christians, the Jews are today not following the many and varied verses of barbarity which were common place thousands of years ago.

Are you suggesting the Jews followed verses of barbarity years ago?

We've shown how they're still following them today, dear.

You do know Christians are not Jews, yes?

If you're in any doubt, Moses, please ask. We'll do a class on comparative religion.

Most certainly the Jews have progressed with the rest of mankind, with the exception of our noted lovers of child sexual abuse being a much loved part of their religious and cultural beliefs.

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