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Message started by Karnal on May 22nd, 2019 at 9:49pm

Title: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Karnal on May 22nd, 2019 at 9:49pm
Thoughts?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Chester on May 22nd, 2019 at 10:17pm
Youuuuuwhoooo, it's meeee.

You know just this afternoon, Keith (he's my bestest friend ever) asked me what what I though of GetUp. I started into a diatribe about shady political funding on all sides of politics, but then he looked at me with those sexy doe eyes, sashayed across the room and put his finger to my mouth and said, hush you silly thing.

He then turned around and presented his bot bot to me and said, GetUp this.

Toodles!!!

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by xeej on May 22nd, 2019 at 10:45pm
Getup are just a bunch of poofters with to much time on their hands, I bet they are blushing now.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Karnal on May 23rd, 2019 at 12:22am

Chester wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 10:17pm:
Youuuuuwhoooo, it's meeee.

You know just this afternoon, Keith (he's my bestest friend ever) asked me what what I though of GetUp. I started into a diatribe about shady political funding on all sides of politics, but then he looked at me with those sexy doe eyes, sashayed across the room and put his finger to my mouth and said, hush you silly thing.

He then turned around and presented his bot bot to me and said, GetUp this.

Toodles!!!


Oh, Chester, that's just so wise!

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by cods on May 23rd, 2019 at 7:43am
lol   right to the end   the Tele told us Labor was going to win....no ifs or buts  " Fete accompli" ... the libs would be lucky to be the opposition....

I dont  recall  News Ltd vandalising  posters... or making cruel dishonest ads that needed to be withdrawn.....I dont recall them making phone calls around the neighbourhood or attacking volunteers....


perhaps you have details of them doing so....

GETUP on the other hand........ >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by DonDeeHippy on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:08am

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 7:43am:
lol   right to the end   the Tele told us Labor was going to win....no ifs or buts  " Fete accompli" ... the libs would be lucky to be the opposition....

I dont  recall  News Ltd vandalising  posters... or making cruel dishonest ads that needed to be withdrawn.....I dont recall them making phone calls around the neighbourhood or attacking volunteers....


perhaps you have details of them doing so....

GETUP on the other hand........ >:( >:( >:( >:(

https://reneweconomy.com.au/murdoch-media-and-the-myth-about-tesla-evs-causing-blackouts-84284/

It’s been quite an extraordinary election campaign. Every day, readers have been able to turn to the Murdoch media stable – Sky News, The Australian and the state-based tabloids to read or listen to some complete nonsense about climate change science, renewables, or electric vehicles.
It’s a tough call, given the intense competition, but if we had to give a prize to the dumbest story of all, it would likely be The Australian columnist Robert Gottliebsen and his story entitled Electric cars are already causing some grid failures.

According to Gottliebsen, a friend of his had told him about an unidentified street in Melbourne where six households had a Tesla EV, and when just three of four of them charged at the same time, the power went out.

“It’s a crisis that has been concealed from the vast majority of the population,” Gottliebsen writes.
“The danger really came home to me when I met up with an affluent, long-time Melbourne acquaintance who lives in a street where there are six Tesla cars.  When they all try to charge their batteries at the same time, the power goes out in the street because the grid fails. Sometimes it fails when only three or four of them try to charge at the same time.”

The claim is laughable because most Tesla EVs are powered at home by a 7kW charger, which is about the same as many electric ovens and air conditioning units. And nearly all houses have these, and in the summer heat turn them on at the same time. (Some Tesla’s, such as chief scientist Alan Finkel’s, trickle feed from a normal socket).
As one Tesla officianado noted: “I did see that (Gottliebsen article) posted a while back and it’s pretty much entirely baseless crap. For starters, this was discussed on the Tesla Australia Slack group and no-one there (200+ Tesla owners) could pinpoint where 6 Teslas exist on one street. Sounds made up to start with.”

Still, we decided to check with all the local grid operators in Melbourne. Had there been any such cases? No, came the answer.
“In regards to home EV chargers, they are not causing reliability issues, such as outages, on our networks,” said Emma Tyner, who speaks on behalf of Powercor, Citipower and United Energy.
“We have not had blackouts or major network issues caused by EVs in our network,” said Helena Lilley, from Ausnet.






Well id say that was a bit biased Cods... I see at the Sunshine Coast they put a Gun site on a Labor premier and said she is next on the front page....
Nah not involving themselves at all or using dirty Tactics.....

Your right Get up do political  things,, after all they are a political organization, Murdock is supposed to be a Neutral News Agency and only tell the news, but we all know that isn't the case. ;)

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by DonDeeHippy on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by cods on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Karnal on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:38am
How about Stormfront?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by DonDeeHippy on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:56am

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter

Only Neutral to a political party, not issue's. If a politician goes against one of their campaigns (eg increasing coal production instead of decreasing) then they go against that politician.
Don't forget that Getup are actively against Adani and that is in a Labor run state, so they are going against the Labor party there....
How do you explain that if you say they are run by a Party...
It's easy to explain if they are having a campain that is against coal production.

That is what they are set up to do...….


National media agerncies however should be above political biases and just report the news, it doesn't matter if Murdock or Fairfax do it, they are both in the wrong.


Getup however are true to what they stand for ,just because you don't like what they stand up for doesn't matter.

Don't forget in February this year the electoral council looked into their affairs and said they are neutral if you disagree take it up with the AEC. ;)

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Karnal on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:13am

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:56am:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter

Only Neutral to a political party, not issue's. If a politician goes against one of their campaigns (eg increasing coal production instead of decreasing) then they go against that politician.
Don't forget that Getup are actively against Adani and that is in a Labor run state, so they are going against the Labor party there....
How do you explain that if you say they are run by a Party...
It's easy to explain if they are having a campain that is against coal production.

That is what they are set up to do...….


National media agerncies however should be above political biases and just report the news, it doesn't matter if Murdock or Fairfax do it, they are both in the wrong.


Getup however are true to what they stand for ,just because you don't like what they stand up for doesn't matter.

Don't forget in February this year the electoral council looked into their affairs and said they are neutral if you disagree take it up with the AEC. ;)


In Warringah, GetUp backed a Liberal-leaning independent. News Ltd would never do that.

Murdoch meets with the Liberal leadership and coordinates a joint campaign, with News tabloids being attack dogs against Labor.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by cods on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:26am

Karnal wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:13am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:56am:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter

Only Neutral to a political party, not issue's. If a politician goes against one of their campaigns (eg increasing coal production instead of decreasing) then they go against that politician.
Don't forget that Getup are actively against Adani and that is in a Labor run state, so they are going against the Labor party there....
How do you explain that if you say they are run by a Party...
It's easy to explain if they are having a campain that is against coal production.

That is what they are set up to do...….


National media agerncies however should be above political biases and just report the news, it doesn't matter if Murdock or Fairfax do it, they are both in the wrong.


Getup however are true to what they stand for ,just because you don't like what they stand up for doesn't matter.

Don't forget in February this year the electoral council looked into their affairs and said they are neutral if you disagree take it up with the AEC. ;)


In Warringah, GetUp backed a Liberal-leaning independent. News Ltd would never do that.

Murdoch meets with the Liberal leadership and coordinates a joint campaign, with News tabloids being attack dogs against Labor.




oh dearie dearie me tsk tsk...

they went full bore to attack every leading Liberal and well you know it..

sadly they won getting rid of Tony....BUT ZALI now has to get WIND FARMS ON THE BEACHES OF NSW...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D....

she pledged to FIX CLIMATE CHANGE   

and where better to start... but on the BEACHES... ;D ;D


i love it...I am sure you do as well.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by The Reboot on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:29am

Chester wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 10:17pm:
Youuuuuwhoooo, it's meeee.

You know just this afternoon, Keith (he's my bestest friend ever) asked me what what I though of GetUp. I started into a diatribe about shady political funding on all sides of politics, but then he looked at me with those sexy doe eyes, sashayed across the room and put his finger to my mouth and said, hush you silly thing.

He then turned around and presented his bot bot to me and said, GetUp this.

Toodles!!!


Dying.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by cods on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:29am

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:56am:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter

Only Neutral to a political party, not issue's. If a politician goes against one of their campaigns (eg increasing coal production instead of decreasing) then they go against that politician.
Don't forget that Getup are actively against Adani and that is in a Labor run state, so they are going against the Labor party there....
How do you explain that if you say they are run by a Party...
It's easy to explain if they are having a campain that is against coal production.

That is what they are set up to do...….


National media agerncies however should be above political biases and just report the news, it doesn't matter if Murdock or Fairfax do it, they are both in the wrong.


Getup however are true to what they stand for ,just because you don't like what they stand up for doesn't matter.

Don't forget in February this year the electoral council looked into their affairs and said they are neutral if you disagree take it up with the AEC. ;)




WHAT EXACTLY DOES GETUP STAND FOR MATE?..

I would seriously like to know..

besides getting rid of powerful liberals...that is!


when I first heard about getup many years ago   they stood for not climate change but saving the earth....water conservation and so on  now  well its anything or anyone whos right leaning....


how do you feel about WINDMILLS ON THE BEACHES OF NSW?...

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by The Reboot on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:30am

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter


Media outlets certainly aren't unbiased these days.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by cods on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:34am

The Reboot wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:30am:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter


Media outlets certainly aren't unbiased these days.



since when have they ever been...

only lefties believe every outlet other than news ltd... is not biased.... ;D ;D ;D


they actually think like that.... ::) ::) ::)

have they read the Guardian...


they must think the Guardian is run by robots and not humans.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by DonDeeHippy on May 23rd, 2019 at 10:45am

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:29am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:56am:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter

Only Neutral to a political party, not issue's. If a politician goes against one of their campaigns (eg increasing coal production instead of decreasing) then they go against that politician.
Don't forget that Getup are actively against Adani and that is in a Labor run state, so they are going against the Labor party there....
How do you explain that if you say they are run by a Party...
It's easy to explain if they are having a campain that is against coal production.

That is what they are set up to do...….


National media agerncies however should be above political biases and just report the news, it doesn't matter if Murdock or Fairfax do it, they are both in the wrong.


Getup however are true to what they stand for ,just because you don't like what they stand up for doesn't matter.

Don't forget in February this year the electoral council looked into their affairs and said they are neutral if you disagree take it up with the AEC. ;)




WHAT EXACTLY DOES GETUP STAND FOR MATE?..

I would seriously like to know..

besides getting rid of powerful liberals...that is!


when I first heard about getup many years ago   they stood for not climate change but saving the earth....water conservation and so on  now  well its anything or anyone whos right leaning....


how do you feel about WINDMILLS ON THE BEACHES OF NSW?...

so you don't even know what Getup stand for and your acting like a expert......well saving the earth is stopping fossil fuels being burnt so how have they changed.
Google is your friend if you want to know what they stand for cods  ;)

OK so could you give a few more details on this wind farm on the beach thing, maybe a link.....  If it goes against our wonderful environmental policies we Liberals have id be against it.
There is 25,000 kilometres of coast line in Australia, where are they proposing ? ;)

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by DonDeeHippy on May 23rd, 2019 at 10:48am

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:34am:

The Reboot wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:30am:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter


Media outlets certainly aren't unbiased these days.



since when have they ever been...

only lefties believe every outlet other than news ltd... is not biased.... ;D ;D ;D


they actually think like that.... ::) ::) ::)

have they read the Guardian...


they must think the Guardian is run by robots and not humans.

o you know Lefties that think that media outlets are not biased Cods ?
I see you have trouble figuring out the difference between a political movement and a national newsgroup. ;)

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by it_is_the_Roo on May 23rd, 2019 at 1:18pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:56am:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter

Only Neutral to a political party, not issue's. If a politician goes against one of their campaigns (eg increasing coal production instead of decreasing) then they go against that politician.
Don't forget that Getup are actively against Adani and that is in a Labor run state, so they are going against the Labor party there....
How do you explain that if you say they are run by a Party...
It's easy to explain if they are having a campaign that is against coal production.

That is what they are set up to do...….


National media agerncies however should be above political biases and just report the news, it doesn't matter if Murdock or Fairfax do it, they are both in the wrong.


Getup however are true to what they stand for ,just because you don't like what they stand up for doesn't matter.

Don't forget in February this year the electoral council looked into their affairs and said they are neutral if you disagree take it up with the AEC. ;)


So many of those who support Adani are doing so because their side tells them to, not because they're informed on the subject.

But today, that's all that matters now.  You're a branded a weak lefty if you're informed.  Nobody, or should I say, very few people bother to read parliamentary reports or even follow up with checking sources or even fact-checking.  I do that, but every time I share an informed post, it gets countered with a meme as if that means anything.

That's the world we now live in.

These same people get their opinions from the news sources they prefer, the ones that tell them what they like to hear.

Or worse, and ever increasing now, they get it from Facebook, Twitter and Reddit, who get it from bloggers, who post their opinions about the sources that they like, again that tell them what they want to hear.  These opinions are considered to be as valuable as facts, or even that they are facts.

But so often, especially when scrutinising certain posters on here, when you follow the trail back to the original sources, the message they are looking to as facts are simply unsupported by the source material, nearly every single time.

The truth these days equals conformity, conformity to the beholder's opinions.

Actual objective fact is irrelevant, especially here.

A lot of what GetUp! tends to support is based on the facts of the situation.  They're not a shining beacon of truth because when something doesn't fit their ideological stance they ignore it.  It's better than lying about it like the Murdock rags but it's still not perfect.

Those who hate on GetUp! have no problem with the influences that support their side or their stances.  They don't like GetUp! because for too long the lies told that bolster support for their ideology went unopposed.

You have to fight money with money, and that's what GetUp! is.

And unless those attacking GetUp! will advocate for real reform in that area, they just want their side funded and not the other.

To those people, go eat a dick.  You're part of the problem, almost more so than the parties involved.  It's their support and hypocrisy towards their side that had created the void that GetUp! tried to fill.

All they want is a safe space so the lies they like to hear, that supports the world view their insecurities need to sleep at night can be spread unopposed as if they're true.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by DonDeeHippy on May 23rd, 2019 at 1:22pm
That was awesome Roo, couldn't agree more and just wish I could write better :) ;)

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Karnal on May 23rd, 2019 at 1:45pm

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:34am:

The Reboot wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:30am:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter


Media outlets certainly aren't unbiased these days.



since when have they ever been...

only lefties believe every outlet other than news ltd... is not biased.... ;D ;D ;D


they actually think like that.... ::) ::) ::)

have they read the Guardian...


they must think the Guardian is run by robots and not humans.


Don't forget Fairfax, dear. The Herald and the Age supported all the Liberal governments until Rudd came along - all through Fraser, Hawke, Keating, Howard.

News Ltd once backed Whitlam. Yes, Murdoch and the Australian crusaded for the first Whitlam government.

Never again. The Australian Guardian is a very new player on the scene, dear.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:50pm
Dutto to cut the GetUp! terrorists off at the knees!!!!!!

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by it_is_the_Roo on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:52pm

juliar wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:50pm:
Dutto to cut the GetUp! terrorists off at the knees!!!!!!


Do you object to other outlets doing what GetUp! does to the other side of politics, or just the side you don't like?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:53pm

"GetUp has claimed credit for ­defeating Tony Abbott in his formerly safe Sydney seat".

:)

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by DonDeeHippy on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:54pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:52pm:

juliar wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:50pm:
Dutto to cut the GetUp! terrorists off at the knees!!!!!!


Do you object to other outlets doing what GetUp! does to the other side of politics, or just the side you don't like?

Trying to reason with Jules is like herding cats..... :D

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by it_is_the_Roo on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:00pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:54pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:52pm:

juliar wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:50pm:
Dutto to cut the GetUp! terrorists off at the knees!!!!!!


Do you object to other outlets doing what GetUp! does to the other side of politics, or just the side you don't like?

Trying to reason with Jules is like herding cats..... :D


I know.  But I'll always reach out, even to the most disturbed.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:19pm
The Lefties including the intellectually disturbed Tweedledee are frothing at the mouth trying to deny and lie about the obscene disgraceful behavior of the GetUp! terrorists during the election.

But Dutto will now bring them to heel.  The GetUp! terrorists should not have ruffled Dutto's feathers.

Dutto's forensic examination of their foreign funded and controlled anti-Australian activities should be exciting.

When Dutto forces GetUp! to become a political party then whoever would vote for them ?

GetUp! is funded and controlled by foreigners who hate Australia and want to forcible impose the UN AGENDA 2030 on Australia which would see Australia dragged down into the SEWERS of SOCIALISM.

The LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES want the same thing.

Australians will probably never know how close Australia came to being reduced to a primitive agrarian 4th world country overrun with the world's unwanted black brown and brindles. There would have been terrorists under every rock just like parts of Europe right now.

Thank God that God answered ScoMo's prayers and saved Australia from the horrible perdition planned by Labor.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:20pm

juliar wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:19pm:
The Lefties including the intellectually disturbed Tweedledee are frothing at the mouth trying to deny and lie about the obscene disgraceful behavior of the GetUp! terrorists during the election.

But Dutto will now bring them to heel.  The GetUp! terrorists should not have ruffled Dutto's feathers.

Dutto's forensic examination of their foreign funded and controlled anti-Australian activities should be exciting.

When Dutto forces GetUp! to become a political party then whoever would vote for them ?

GetUp! is funded and controlled by foreigners who hate Australia and want to forcible impose the UN AGENDA 2030 on Australia which would see Australia dragged down into the SEWERS of SOCIALISM.

The LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES want the same thing.

Australians will probably never know how close Australia came to being reduced to a primitive agrarian 4th world country overrun with the world's unwanted black brown and brindles. There would have been terrorists under every rock just like parts of Europe right now.

Thank God that God answered ScoMo's prayers and saved Australia from the horrible perdition planned by Labor.


"GetUp has claimed credit for ­defeating Tony Abbott in his formerly safe Sydney seat".

:)

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:25pm
Silly doddery old Greggy just can't cope with the demise of his HEROES.

Hey Greggy why don't you trot out some Labor Slogans from 50 years ago ? That will be nice and nostalgic.

How about your feelings of Sir John Kerr ?

And Greggy you silly dumb doddery old coot ScoMo wanted to get rid of ABBO and the GetUp! terrorists did it for him.

Abbo was poison and attracted HATE wherever he went and was a nuisance.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:26pm

juliar wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:25pm:
Silly doddery old Greggy just can't cope with the demise of his HEROES.

Hey Greggy why don't you trot out some Labor Slogans from 50 years ago ? That will be nice and nostalgic.

How about your feelings of Sir John Kerr ?


Your wish ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqMCZBjvmD4

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:29pm
Poor old doddery Greggy missed the really good bit. His mental state is getting unstable you can tell. Will he chuck another mental and get suspended again ?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:30pm

juliar wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:29pm:
Poor old doddery Greggy missed the really good bit. His mental state is getting unstable you can tell. Will he chuck another mental and get suspended again ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqMCZBjvmD4

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:32pm
Poor old doddery greggy is coming apart as his fragile mental condition can't handle the stress and he is double posting his silly dribble.

Will Greggy chuck another mental and get suspended again ?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:34pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao9lWNwH4VU

The God of the love and the God of the dance are gonna get to together with a little romance.

They're gonna give a gift to an unhappy world, the name of the child will be rock and roll.

You got to get up, get up, get up, Yeah, get up and dance
get up, get up, get up, Yeah, get up and dance
get up, get up, get up, get up and dance

Back in the 60's the world had a craze,but somebody changed it and it all went to waste.

Now we got depression and a whole lot of hate. So...
Get down and boogie before its to late.

You got to get up, get up, get up, Yeah, get up and dance
get up, get up, get up, Yeah, get up and dance
get up, get up, get up, get up and dance

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:37pm
Greggy is going round the bend. I can feel a mental collapse is very close. Will he get suspended for posting OFF TOPIC SPAM?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by it_is_the_Roo on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:03pm

juliar wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 3:19pm:
The Lefties including the intellectually disturbed Tweedledee are frothing at the mouth trying to deny and lie about the obscene disgraceful behavior of the GetUp! terrorists during the election.


Can you list something that would justify branding them a terrorist group?  I know you keep repeating it, but it seems like you're trying to win people over with emotion and not facts as usual.


Quote:
But Dutto will now bring them to heel.  The GetUp! terrorists should not have ruffled Dutto's feathers.

Dutto's forensic examination of their foreign funded and controlled anti-Australian activities should be exciting.


Do you even know what they are advocating for?  How are they anti-Australian?  They support things like Economic Fairness, Human Rights, and Democratic Integrity.

What is unaustralian about that?

It sounds like you don't know what you're talking about and just parroting the party line.


Quote:
When Dutto forces GetUp! to become a political party then whoever would vote for them ?


That toad can't do anything without reforming the laws which if he isn't careful will also require a loss of income to people donating directly to him and his party too.

It won't happen, you're dreaming. The very same agenda you're being told to repeat is one of not want reform of the political system and getting money out of politics, stopping it buying influence etc, but to just remove it from the progressive, or even left of centre side of politics.

The Libs are fine with their cash cow and promise of cushy jobs after politics.


Quote:
GetUp! is funded and controlled by foreigners who hate Australia and want to forcible impose the UN AGENDA 2030 on Australia which would see Australia dragged down into the SEWERS of SOCIALISM.

The LUNATIC EXTREMIST GREENIES want the same thing.

Australians will probably never know how close Australia came to being reduced to a primitive agrarian 4th world country overrun with the world's unwanted black brown and brindles. There would have been terrorists under every rock just like parts of Europe right now.

Thank God that God answered ScoMo's prayers and saved Australia from the horrible perdition planned by Labor.


Have you even bothered to fact check what you're being told to say?

Start here,

https://periodicdisclosures.aec.gov.au/PoliticalExpenditure.aspx?SubmissionId=68&ClientId=30343

The Liberal Party have received single donations that total more than what GetUp! have spent at times.

Compare that to some of the groups that support the Liberals,

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-01/donations-australia-federal-politics-foreign/10768226

Do a search on the page for "Liberal" and see how many of the "major donors" went to them...

The point is, none of what you're saying is born from any sort of personal concerns, they're ideologically driven and you're being told what to say, and what to be outraged over.

You know all the times you attack the "loony left" for their manufactured outrage?

You're doing that now.

So what insult will you use to ignore this post and the facts presented this time?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Dnarever on May 23rd, 2019 at 10:02pm

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter



Quote:
GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 


No they claim to not support a particular political party. it is different. They go for the policies they support and against those they don't.

The Liberals end up on the wrong end of that arrangement.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Dnarever on May 23rd, 2019 at 10:05pm

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:34am:

The Reboot wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:30am:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter


Media outlets certainly aren't unbiased these days.



since when have they ever been...

only lefties believe every outlet other than news ltd... is not biased.... ;D ;D ;D


they actually think like that.... ::) ::) ::)

have they read the Guardian...


they must think the Guardian is run by robots and not humans.


The other major news services may have a slight bias one way or the other but NEWS Ltd is the only one that acts as part of the political system intent on influencing election results mostly with fake news, lies and in general dishonest commentary.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Dnarever on May 23rd, 2019 at 10:13pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:54pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:52pm:

juliar wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 2:50pm:
Dutto to cut the GetUp! terrorists off at the knees!!!!!!


Do you object to other outlets doing what GetUp! does to the other side of politics, or just the side you don't like?

Trying to reason with Jules is like herding cats..... :D


herding cats ??? I would think more like teaching cats Shakespeare.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Dnarever on May 23rd, 2019 at 10:14pm

Karnal wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 9:49pm:
Thoughts?


I thought it was an optimistic request.


Thoughts? Comments

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 23rd, 2019 at 11:03pm
The Lefties are devastated to learn that their beloved foreign funded and controlled GetUp! terrorists who tell them what to say and think are going to have their water cut off by DUTTO.

The GetUp! terrorists are on borrowed time just waiting for the axe to fall. Like a turkey just before XMAS!!!!

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by it_is_the_Roo on May 24th, 2019 at 7:42am

juliar wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 11:03pm:
The Lefties are devastated to learn that their beloved foreign funded and controlled GetUp! terrorists who tell them what to say and think are going to have their water cut off by DUTTO.

The GetUp! terrorists are on borrowed time just waiting for the axe to fall. Like a turkey just before XMAS!!!!


So, you're just going to ignore what you don't like, keep peddling your baseless lies?

Quality.

I guess facts and reality were never really your strong suit.  No wonder you don't like GetUp!.

Looks like I nailed it,


ProudKangaroo wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:03pm:
The point is, none of what you're saying is born from any sort of personal concerns, they're ideologically driven and you're being told what to say, and what to be outraged over.


The reason you can't reply is that you don't really understand the issue to begin with, you've just got talking points you repeat.  Since they don't cover "why" you don't like GetUp!, or how to deal with entities you do like who do worse than GetUp!, you'll just revert back to name calling and personal attacks.

You're more transparent than glass.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by cods on May 24th, 2019 at 8:32am

Dnarever wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 10:05pm:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:34am:

The Reboot wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:30am:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 8:14am:
If you want to do a Comparison it should be between Advance Australia (right wingers) and Getup (left wingers).
To do a comparison to a national News group who are supposed to be Neutral to a political group is very disturbing as one of them should not have a bias at all..….. ;)



GETUP CLAIMS NEUTRALITY 

since when have the news media ever been neutral??? ::) ::)

you must live on a different planet to me...

or you dont read the letter pages.... ;D ;D ;D


or fairfax for that matter


Media outlets certainly aren't unbiased these days.



since when have they ever been...

only lefties believe every outlet other than news ltd... is not biased.... ;D ;D ;D


they actually think like that.... ::) ::) ::)

have they read the Guardian...


they must think the Guardian is run by robots and not humans.


The other major news services may have a slight bias one way or the other but NEWS Ltd is the only one that acts as part of the political system intent on influencing election results mostly with fake news, lies and in general dishonest commentary.



slight..

OF COURSE ITS SLIGHT TO YOU DNA.....

its the same reading people on here...

if a righty calls you names    you get all huffy and puffy    where as another righty doesnt see anything wrong with it..


yet if a lefty dishes it out to a righty     its acceptable to a lefty but not a righty...


the Guardian  only slightly biased.....oh dna... take those blinkers off..

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by cods on May 24th, 2019 at 8:43am
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/23/self-interest-didnt-swing-the-election-results-but-the-scare-campaign-did


and example of the guardians take on labors loss...

its didnt have a thing to do with labor or their policies... ::)

how on earth can anything change if you do not accept you got it wrong....lick your wounds and work on fixing the mistakes....

all the left does is blame blame blame......

if the captain of the team makes a bad call he usually owns up to it...not in the case of labor.........

I will give shorten his due    he was devastated  and showed it   remembering krudds concession speech it was as if labor had won and he was celebrating  HIS WIN...instead....

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by DonDeeHippy on May 24th, 2019 at 8:56am
I see Cods saying how bad Getup where for attacking Liberal polititions, will she also be equal and condem the Liberal Party for doing the same thing ?

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Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 24th, 2019 at 9:22am

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 8:56am:
I see Cods saying how bad Getup where for attacking Liberal polititions, will she also be equal and condem the Liberal Party for doing the same thing ?



Is there a suggestion that cods is a one-eyed hypocrite with double standards?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 24th, 2019 at 9:24am
The Tweedledee GetUp! idiot is dismayed to learn Dutto is going to cut the GetUp! terrorists' water off. She is certainly dumb enough to be sucked in by the GetUp! HILLSONG palaver.

And Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA is stirring the filthy water in Labor's vast cesspool of corruption.

Hey doddery old Greggy have you been to the Perth Public Hospital to see how Polly Waffle the FAKE NEWS VIRUS is going after his collapse last Saturday night ?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by it_is_the_Roo on May 24th, 2019 at 9:44am

juliar wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 9:24am:
The Tweedledee GetUp! idiot is dismayed to learn Dutto is going to cut the GetUp! terrorists' water off. She is certainly dumb enough to be sucked in by the GetUp! HILLSONG palaver.

And Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA is stirring the filthy water in Labor's vast cesspool of corruption.

Hey doddery old Greggy have you been to the Perth Public Hospital to see how Polly Waffle the FAKE NEWS VIRUS is going after his collapse last Saturday night ?


You post using the tactics of someone who knows what they're saying isn't true because you're avoiding every topic from every poster and just lobbing personal attacks.

Seems like you've defeated yourself before it's even started.

Suck to be you.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 24th, 2019 at 9:48am
Kangyroo is a classic Greeny type who could not argue her way out of a wet paper bag.

She is now Hell bent on a HATE session against me. 

Oh well what's another Greeny type on the war path spewing hate and childish idiocy at me ? The more the better.

Who cares now that the Libs are in power for the next 20 years ?

Wonder if Kangyroo is also a member of GetUp! ?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by it_is_the_Roo on May 24th, 2019 at 10:34am

juliar wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 9:48am:
Kangyroo is a classic Greeny type who could not argue her way out of a wet paper bag.

She is now Hell bent on a HATE session against me.


Nah mate, just calling out your bullshit :)

I don't hate you, in fact I was even trying to support you in another thread but you still couldn't help yourself and went full retard and started attacking me.  You just accept that anyone might have a slightly different view than you, even if they agree with the same conclusion and you instantly reply with unhinged attacks or spam copy and pasted information from Google that you think to makes you look informed or even intelligent.

At the end of the day, you let your insecurities show when you cross paths with someone who knows just as much, or in most cases far more than you in any given topic, they have the facts to back it up and you melt down into a child lobbing insults left and right as if you think that makes up for the enormous divide in intellect, in your case a glaring deficiency, between you and the person you're attacking, all because you can't deal with the information they've posted.

You'll do the same to this reply too.

Again, in this thread, World rushes to the Hydrogen Energy Revolution, I was agreeing with you that we need to start taking Hydrogen more seriously as a fuel source, especially if we're going to continue with combustion technologies.

But as usual, because you have your bias against "otherwise useless renewables", you hate on NASA and pretend Climate Change isn't real, it wasn't long before you started attacking me, even though I was one of the few people on your side in that thread...


Quote:
Oh well what's another Greeny type on the war path spewing hate and childish idiocy at me ? The more the better.


"childish idiocy"?

I asked you why you call them a terrorist organisation, and if you have a problem with their level and source of funding, is that an issue you take seriously across the board, or just for those who take seriously issues you think are garbage?

I provided you with links to official funding and political spends for you to find out the scale at which GetUp! actually exist, especially compared to the Libs who you seems to adore because they're climate change deniers and attack the Greens all the time.

You ignored all of that totally legitimate reply and request for more information in the debate and went straight for the attacks.

Is your argument and point of view really that bloody weak that you can't even articulate why you call them terrorists?

I mean, we know why, but you can't even defend it or cite a legitimate reason why?

Pathetic mate.


Quote:
Wonder if Kangyroo is also a member of GetUp! ?


For the record, I'm not, but when someone like you starts spreading lies and avoids even the slightest bit of scrutiny in what they post AND then they start attacking others who bring facts to the table, you'll be called out.

That sort of fake news bullshit has to stop.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by macman on May 24th, 2019 at 6:37pm
I'm trying to work out how a person with so many posts doesn't realise that Liar is the village idiot and tries to talk sense to it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

While on the subject of news ltd. how do you all feel about the character assasination they carried out on geoff rush? Want to defend that as well?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by it_is_the_Roo on May 24th, 2019 at 6:45pm
It's not for him.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by Dnarever on May 24th, 2019 at 8:03pm

cods wrote on May 24th, 2019 at 8:43am:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/23/self-interest-didnt-swing-the-election-results-but-the-scare-campaign-did


and example of the guardians take on labors loss...

its didnt have a thing to do with labor or their policies... ::)

how on earth can anything change if you do not accept you got it wrong....lick your wounds and work on fixing the mistakes....

all the left does is blame blame blame......

if the captain of the team makes a bad call he usually owns up to it...not in the case of labor.........

I will give shorten his due    he was devastated  and showed it   remembering krudds concession speech it was as if labor had won and he was celebrating  HIS WIN...instead....


How many news papers do the guardian publish in Australia ?

Answer = 0.

I had to look them up - didn't even know they had an Australian representation. They have been online in Australia since 2013 ?

These guys are in no way representative of Australian main stream media. Even as an online news site they are not in the top 10.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 27th, 2019 at 12:16pm
Dutto preparing to cut GetUp! off at the knees after their disgraceful terrorist activities during the election.



Coalition goes after GetUp
22/05/2019 CHRIS SMITH   ANGUS TAYLOR



The Coalition is looking at introducing rules to ban those who are not attached to a registered party or independent candidate from spruiking outside polling booths.

This could restrict GetUp in future elections, who turned up at polling booths nationwide to campaign against conservative politicians.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has called their actions on election day “deceptive”, “undemocratic” and “unrepresentative”.

Energy Minister Angus Taylor tells Chris Smith GetUp volunteers showed up to a polling booth in his electorate at south Goulburn.

“We saw a GetUp volunteer arrive and start saying ‘vote one GetUp’.


“They can’t work out whether they’re a political party or they’re just trying to influence the outcome.

“GetUp needs to decide what it is and needs to be accountable for that.”

Revel in the actual interview


https://www.2gb.com/coalition-goes-after-getup/

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by it_is_the_Roo on May 27th, 2019 at 12:26pm

juliar wrote on May 27th, 2019 at 12:16pm:
Dutto preparing to cut GetUp! off at the knees after their disgraceful terrorist activities during the election.



Coalition goes after GetUp
22/05/2019 CHRIS SMITH   ANGUS TAYLOR



The Coalition is looking at introducing rules to ban those who are not attached to a registered party or independent candidate from spruiking outside polling booths.

This could restrict GetUp in future elections, who turned up at polling booths nationwide to campaign against conservative politicians.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has called their actions on election day “deceptive”, “undemocratic” and “unrepresentative”.

Energy Minister Angus Taylor tells Chris Smith GetUp volunteers showed up to a polling booth in his electorate at south Goulburn.

“We saw a GetUp volunteer arrive and start saying ‘vote one GetUp’.


“They can’t work out whether they’re a political party or they’re just trying to influence the outcome.

“GetUp needs to decide what it is and needs to be accountable for that.”

Revel in the actual interview


https://www.2gb.com/coalition-goes-after-getup/


Do you not know what terrorism means?

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 27th, 2019 at 12:29pm
It is just amusing child's play to wind up the tiny child's mind of an upset Greeny. It is really funny when they get to the stage of chucking a mental. Stir Stir.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by it_is_the_Roo on May 27th, 2019 at 1:30pm

juliar wrote on May 27th, 2019 at 12:29pm:
It is just amusing child's play to wind up the tiny child's mind of an upset Greeny. It is really funny when they get to the stage of chucking a mental. Stir Stir.


Is it safe to assume then, that you cannot justify that claim?

Thought so.

Title: Re: GetUp versus News Ltd.
Post by juliar on May 27th, 2019 at 6:57pm
Poor old Kangyroo is used to exchanging good old simplistic Greeny type HATE SESSION blurtings. She is not used to much more sophisticated oblique tangential hyper scrolling vividity tactics.

Rest easy Kangyroo the CLIMATE is not CHANGING.

But GetUp! will be changing.

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