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Title: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 2:20pm
Didn't take long for the Liars party to do what it does best. Making promises it knew it couldn't keep :(
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-20/scott-morrison-government-income-tax-cut-delay-election-budget/11132046 |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 4:11pm Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:20pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Bam on May 21st, 2019 at 4:13pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:11pm:
It not beyond his control at all. The Prime Minister has complete control over the timing of the election. Everything else is determined by that. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Dsmithy70 on May 21st, 2019 at 4:14pm
So already a broken promise or is it a new tax?
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Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 4:21pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:11pm:
So he would have known this but he mislead the public before the election. What's his excuse now ? Libbos Are Liars |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 4:31pm Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:21pm:
Did he? You have proof of that? ;) By that token then Bill lied as well. "Opposition Leader Bill Shorten says Labor plans to act to raise wages on the first day of government if elected." |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 4:56pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:31pm:
yes he didn't explain his policy. guilt by omission :( |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 5:05pm Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:56pm:
So you don't have proof. Never mind petal. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by John Smith on May 21st, 2019 at 5:17pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:31pm:
that's the sort of stupidity I've come to expect from you ;D |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by John Smith on May 21st, 2019 at 5:18pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 5:05pm:
So you're claiming the Prime Minister is so incompetent that he doesn't understand or know the parliamentary procedures of the parliament he's trying to run? |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Aussie on May 21st, 2019 at 5:19pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:31pm:
The first day of Government does not exist until the Writs are returned. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 5:36pm Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 5:19pm:
Yep. From the reference - "Writs cannot be returned until there has been an exhaustive vote count, which is still ongoing." So any tight seats will need to have a recount. So tell me petal how does a leader know which seats will be tightly held and need a recount and how long that recount will last. ::) |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Aussie on May 21st, 2019 at 6:08pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 5:36pm:
I don't know dickhead, but it was not me who made the bold assertion. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 6:24pm Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 6:08pm:
You should have stopped at "I don't know ". |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by red baron on May 21st, 2019 at 6:27pm
Thus...the whingeing begins ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
EAT IT! |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Aussie on May 21st, 2019 at 6:29pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 6:24pm:
Don't you like being called dickhead? Further, this not about me....it is about Morrison failing to keep an election promise THREE days after the election. Great portend for what we are in for. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 6:43pm Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 6:29pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Have writs been declared yet? ;) |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by macman on May 21st, 2019 at 6:57pm
Once again aussie, why do you debate the idiot?
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Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 7:03pm macman wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 6:57pm:
poor old macman, trying to be relevant. Perhaps you can tell us when a promise is at least putatively broken? Doesn't it get broken if it doesn't occur at the time it is supposed to occur? Or do you think it occurs when the promise is made? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Now that would mean if any promise, from the election, was broken it can only be after the declaration of the polls. Is a delay of say a week a broken promise? |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Frank on May 21st, 2019 at 7:06pm Bam wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:13pm:
You, too, are a semi-literate - or is it willful? -idiot. Quote:
He is not responsible for the writs, Bum. The AEC needs to finalise the count aqnd declare each seat to have a parliament to constitute. He may be the Messiah from the Shire but he is not the AEC nor is he above the Commonwealth Electoral Act. Next! |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Aussie on May 21st, 2019 at 7:11pm Frank wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 7:06pm:
No, he is not Sore End, but he does know timelines......doesn't he? Or is it your position that the PM of Australia is ignorant of political processes? |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by scurt on May 21st, 2019 at 7:14pm
What's wrong with all these leftards? You'll get your tax cuts, even though you don't deserve it. Whinge, whinge, same old......
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Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Aussie on May 21st, 2019 at 7:17pm scurt wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 7:14pm:
So......Morrison was offering tax breaks to those who don't deserve them? Really? |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Armchair_Politician on May 21st, 2019 at 8:00pm
You idiots bagging Morrison do realise that there is still a slim chance of Parliament commencing in time to get this legislation through, right? Oh, and even if it isn't, it can be ensured that the tax cut is back-dated to July 1. Also, the ATO has said that they can alter the tax tables to ensure taxpayers do not miss out once the legislation is passed. But the issuing of writs is out of his control. It's hardly his fault that counting is taking more time than predicted.
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Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Aussie on May 21st, 2019 at 8:09pm Armchair_Politician wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:00pm:
Another one. He does know timelines......doesn't he? Or is it your position that the PM of Australia is ignorant of political processes? |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by John Smith on May 21st, 2019 at 8:15pm scurt wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 7:14pm:
i guess that's better than the usual stupidity from the rightards who normally claim the left are all dole bludgers ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 8:17pm Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:09pm:
So tell me how he has broken his promise petal. ;) |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Aussie on May 21st, 2019 at 8:19pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:17pm:
He has failed to deliver what he said he would by when he said he would. You work it out from there, dickhead. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Ye Grappler on May 21st, 2019 at 8:24pm |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 8:27pm Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:19pm:
As he hasn't yet formed government he hasn't failed to deliver at this time. He may fail to deliver by 30 June. Then again he may not. You work it our dickhead. ::) ::) ::) Would this failure, should it occur, be anything like Paul Keating's L-A-W tax cuts. ;) |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Armchair_Politician on May 21st, 2019 at 8:27pm Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:19pm:
This is so you! ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Armchair_Politician on May 21st, 2019 at 8:28pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:27pm:
Even if he fails to legislate by June 30, he can have the legislation backdated to July 1. No one misses out. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Aussie on May 21st, 2019 at 8:35pm Armchair_Politician wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:28pm:
That's quite right....but that is not what he promised, is it? He failed to deliver on the one job he said he would do THREE days after the election. The other observation worth making is that Morrison is not a fan of having Parliament sit......just look at his appalling record in that regard since he stole the Leadership......based on Polls which we all now know are totally unreliable. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by John Smith on May 21st, 2019 at 8:42pm
he only had two policies he made promises on ... and he's broken one promise on one within 3 days of the election
Any takers as to how long before he breaks his other 'policy' promise? |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 8:43pm John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:42pm:
Which one petal? Link? |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Aussie on May 21st, 2019 at 8:46pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:43pm:
Watch any schmedia outlet dick head. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 8:56pm John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:42pm:
Which one has he "broken"? Did he really say "within 3 days of being elected I will give tax cuts"? |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 8:58pm Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Sorry I don't have access to "schmedia" or even "Schmeardia". ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Dnarever on May 21st, 2019 at 9:19pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:31pm:
So you choose to argue that he is incompetent and not dishonest. I am afraid that the boat has already sailed on both. When he makes an election commitment it is his duty to understand if he can or can't deliver. This may be the first excuse you have made for this incompetent government but it will be nowhere near the last. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Dnarever on May 21st, 2019 at 9:25pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:56pm:
I think he said it would be the first thing he will do. Now if it is delayed for 12 months it makes for a lean year. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 9:39pm Dnarever wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:19pm:
Another one of your laughable attempts at logic. ;D ;D ;D ;D Dnarever wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:19pm:
You do understand that even if he said it would be done by June 30 it may still be done as it is not even June yet. So you are projecting a possible future failure as one that has already occurred. You do understand that is not logical, don't you? |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 9:43pm Dnarever wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:25pm:
You only think that? ;D ;D ;D ;D Doesn't he actually have to form government to do anything? ;) What if the unthinkable happens and Labor wins. His promises would count for nought. Dnarever wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:25pm:
Ad the ATO has said it can deal with the legislation even if it is backdated. Would that make it like St Paul of Keatings L-A-W tax cuts? |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Dnarever on May 21st, 2019 at 9:50pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:43pm:
If he delivers all your excuses will look silly. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 10:30pm Dnarever wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:50pm:
Not half as silly as you petal. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Dnarever on May 21st, 2019 at 11:21pm lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 10:30pm:
You have a huge advantage being so used to it. Tell us again that you don't support the Libs just make excuses for everything they do while being critical of anything that Labor does. Everyone believes you ya know. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Valkie on May 22nd, 2019 at 5:33am
Anyone who believes anything that any politician or public servant kleptocrat says.
IS A FOOL. The grubberment, THE WHOLE COLLECTION OF PARASITES lie. It's what grubberments do, they lie. Sometimes, during war for instance, they justify it as propaganda. Other times, it's for our own good, they say. Then the phrase coined by the scum of the earth is used " non- core promise". Grubberments lie, it's a simple and indisputable fact. But they hate it if you lie. And they demand the truth. F#$k them I say Lie to the grubberment every single chance you get. You should see the shite I put on my censuses papers. Oh such fun. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Bobby. on May 22nd, 2019 at 6:12am
I want my tax cut and I want it for this financial year.
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Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Bobby. on May 22nd, 2019 at 6:17am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7051589/Post-election-surge-Aussies-mulling-NZ.html
Huge surge in Australians looking at moving to New Zealand following the surprise election result Ten times as many Australians as usual were looking at Immigration NZ website Australians do not require visas to be able to move and settle in New Zealand Since Coalition's shock victory upset Australians have said they want to move. The Coalition's shock victory in the Federal Election has seen a surge in Australians considering moving to New Zealand. Ten times as many Australians as usual had been looking at the Immigration New Zealand website on Sunday and expressions of interest increased by more than 25 times on the same time the week before. More than 8500 people visited the New Zealand Now website the day after the election and 512 registered interest - the first step in the visa process - compared to about 20 registrations on May 12, Immigration New Zealand said. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by juliar on May 22nd, 2019 at 7:53am
ScoMo will deliver tax cuts when he can. He runs a balanced BUDGET and a booming bustling export driven economy.
Compare this to the Draconian crippling taxes that were being plotted by LABOR if they got in!!!!! |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by scurt on May 22nd, 2019 at 9:35am Aussie wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 7:17pm:
Because he represents all Australians, unlike the left. Juliar once said "I don't represent the people on the North Shore, I represent Western Sydney". That's disgraceful from a PM. That's why the left have been booted. They are disruptive, economic vandals, and divisive. And The Tool Bowen doubled up today by saying he doesn't support tax cuts for higher paid workers. What a dill. |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Sir lastnail on May 22nd, 2019 at 10:50am juliar wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 7:53am:
yeh and he has only got one product to sell which is going to well and truly wreck the planet. :( Meanwhile the property hoarders can easily buy their 11th investment property thanks to scumo and his criminal tax evasion scheme :( but then the bible thumping f.ckhead probably believes in the prosperity message where the needs of the greedy always outweigh the needs of the needy :( |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Sir lastnail on May 22nd, 2019 at 10:56am scurt wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 9:35am:
and you pricks always do what you do best and profit from other peoples financial and personal misery. That's the only way you lot can get ahead in life :( Here is scumos legacy for all to see. There is no escaping these environmental vandals and their fists full of printed plastic dollar bills :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1cdCUZNh04 |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Sir lastnail on May 22nd, 2019 at 11:05am Dnarever wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 11:21pm:
he's a closet liberal voter for sure and is against anything that prevents the average punter from being ripped off on their energy usage ! |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by juliar on May 22nd, 2019 at 11:37am
The usual idiotic garbage from Tweedledumb.
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Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by Sir lastnail on May 22nd, 2019 at 12:27pm juliar wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 11:37am:
so you reckon sea level rise is garbage do you socko ? This is why the LNP is so attractive to people like yourself with such low IQ :D LOL |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by lee on May 22nd, 2019 at 4:34pm Dnarever wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 11:21pm:
What don't you understand about the English language? "Has broken" - past tense substantive "Will break" - future tense Present Progressive "May break" - future tense no substantive element - conjecture |
Title: Re: Scumos tax cut policy promise broken already :( Post by scurt on May 22nd, 2019 at 5:00pm Sir lastnail wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 10:56am:
Are you calling me names because I pay 20 times what you earn in tax? That's not very grateful. Mind your manners. |
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