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Message started by freediver on May 14th, 2019 at 7:08am

Title: religions "deserve" respect
Post by freediver on May 14th, 2019 at 7:08am
This is from the same person who claims to be generally critical of religions. Brian now complains that one religion deserves the same level of respect shown to another, regardless of whether the other is actually shown respect, and regardless of the merits of the ideology. The only argument that has been put forward is that the number of followers somehow validates the demand for respect, even if the number of followers is largely a result of rape evangelism, beheading apostates and generally denying people freedom of religion. Brian is inventing a new victimhood for Muslims.


Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 9:59pm:

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 8:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.


Ah, so they didn't mean what they said, FD?  Interesting.   ::)


They are not genuine whiners in the sense that people who use the term Islamophobe are. They use the term to mock you or highlight how idiotic it is to demand special treatment for one religion.



Really?  They are it seems to any casual observers to be actually whinging and whining about only one religion, FD.   In their whinges and whining they make no effort to differentiate the moderate from the exteme, the Terrorists from the law abiding.  Muslims are not demanding special treatement, they want equal treatment.   They want their religion to be accorded the same respect that Christianity is, nothing more.   You, however take that to mean they want more than Christianity presently receives.  Could it be because you are an Islamophobe?    ::) ::)


Christianity is mocked mercilessly. Muslims want special treatment for Islam. The respect it gets should have nothing to do with how much respect Christianity gets. It deserves far less, but gets more, due to the constant whining about Islamophobia, and the very real threat of death for mocking it. The very notion that it deserves equal respect to some other religion just because it also claims to be a religion is but one example of the infinite demands for special treatment made for Islam.


It might have escaped you, FD, but 1.6 billion people believe in Islam which makes it the second largest religion in the world.   It deserves the same respect that Christianity gets from Government and from the MSM.   You may believe otherwise but Muslims get angry when their religion is mocked, just as some Christians do, when Christianity is mocked.    ::)


No religions "deserves" respect, certainly not on the basis of number of followers, particularly when that is achieved by rape evangelism and beheading apostates.

You claim to be critical of religion in general, but toss that out the window for Islam. The hypocrisy drips from your every post.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Really?  Oh, poor, poor, Freediver.   Are you offended that someone believes that Islam should be given a fair deal?   Numbers do command respect - a fact of life.  Something however, you refuse to accept.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Brian Ross on May 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm

freediver wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 7:08am:
This is from the same person who claims to be generally critical of religions. Brian now complains that one religion deserves the same level of respect shown to another, regardless of whether the other is actually shown respect, and regardless of the merits of the ideology.


As usual, you get it wrong and twist it to suit your Islamophobia, FD.  It is not what I want or believe, it is what Muslims want and believe.   Detect the (un)subtle difference there?  MMmm?   ::)

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by freediver on May 14th, 2019 at 12:23pm
So when you said:


Quote:
It deserves the same respect that Christianity gets from Government and from the MSM.


you really meant it does not deserve that respect?

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Laugh till you cry on May 14th, 2019 at 1:22pm
Why is Judaism entitled to more respect than others by frequent and excessive use of the antisemitism allegations?

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by moses on May 14th, 2019 at 3:03pm
Why won't muslims denounce the parts of their teachings which cause islamic terrorism?

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Karnal on May 14th, 2019 at 3:19pm

moses wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 3:03pm:
Why won't muslims denounce the parts of their teachings which cause islamic terrorism?


What would that achieve, Moses?

Oh, that's right. And upon that day, Islam will cease to exist.

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by moses on May 14th, 2019 at 3:28pm
You're learning fast.

Without the rape torture and slaughter bits, the qur'an would have less to read than a 10 cent mickey mouse comic.


Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Karnal on May 14th, 2019 at 3:51pm

moses wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 3:28pm:
You're learning fast.

Without the rape torture and slaughter bits, the qur'an would have less to read than a 10 cent mickey mouse comic.


There wouldn't be much left, dear. Have you thought of editing the Old Testament too?

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by moses on May 14th, 2019 at 4:37pm
How would that stop the muslims being the number one religious terrorists on the globe?

In the last 30 days there were 126 Islamic attacks in 23 countries, in which 805 people were killed and 1223 injured.

islam is the problem, the world is crying out for muslims to be responsible for the evil in their doctrine which caused the above religious slaughter by the highest grade of muslims.

It seems you don't want to stop the daily islamic slaughter, instead you want to muddy the waters with some crap about other beliefs.

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Laugh till you cry on May 14th, 2019 at 5:02pm

moses wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 3:03pm:
Why won't muslims denounce the parts of their teachings which cause islamic terrorism?


Because then the USA would have no use for them to cause chaos in the world and boost the USA military industrial complex.

The USA sponsored terrorism in Afghanistan in the 1970s and 1980s. The terrorists in that region owe their existence to the nurturing of the CIA.

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Karnal on May 14th, 2019 at 6:09pm

moses wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 4:37pm:
It seems you don't want to stop the daily islamic slaughter, instead you want to muddy the waters with some crap about other beliefs.


Oh, I see. So who'd idea is it to stop terrorism by editing a millennium-old book?

Please explain?

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Karnal on May 14th, 2019 at 6:13pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 5:02pm:

moses wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 3:03pm:
Why won't muslims denounce the parts of their teachings which cause islamic terrorism?


Because then the USA would have no use for them to cause chaos in the world and boost the USA military industrial complex.


Yes, but they'd still have the number one source of terrorism in Europe and Amerika, Laugh.

We'd ask Moses who that is, but he can't quiet get his mouth to say it.

Wh....

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by John Smith on May 14th, 2019 at 6:19pm
Gee, FD is misrepresenting what people say......... again. Is anyone else surprised?

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Frank on May 14th, 2019 at 7:37pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 5:02pm:

moses wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 3:03pm:
Why won't muslims denounce the parts of their teachings which cause islamic terrorism?


Because then the USA would have no use for them to cause chaos in the world and boost the USA military industrial complex.

The USA sponsored terrorism in Afghanistan in the 1970s and 1980s. The terrorists in that region owe their existence to the nurturing of the CIA.

:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Trust you to reveal the propaganda instructions given to the jihad-defenders, thick, thick cocoa man with throbbing head.

Islamic jihad is carried out around the world every day as a plot by the US to find a way to defend the US militarily. Poor Muslims, for a fistful of Yankee dollars they are blowing up their brothers, sisters, the infidel everywhere. If only the US STOPPED proferring them money they would cease and desist immediately.   But they can't. Economic necessity to murder each other, all for the Yankee dollar.  And Uncle Shitkeating Karnal is here to encourage you. He is right behind you if not already up you. Throb on, Sambo.  You know you want to.






Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Karnal on May 14th, 2019 at 9:01pm

John Smith wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 6:19pm:
Gee, FD is misrepresenting what people say......... again. Is anyone else surprised?


I don't think anybody noticed, JS.

What sound does a jellyfish make?

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by freediver on May 15th, 2019 at 7:26pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 1:22pm:
Why is Judaism entitled to more respect than others by frequent and excessive use of the antisemitism allegations?


I don't think that has anything to do with how people feel about the religion. The religion itself is a small target because it is non-proselytising. Ignoring it is not the same as respecting it.

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Brian Ross on May 15th, 2019 at 7:57pm

moses wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 3:03pm:
Why won't muslims denounce the parts of their teachings which cause islamic terrorism?


Why won't Christians denounce the parts of their teachings which cause Christian Terrorism?

Grow a pair for a change, Moses and accept that your religion is as hypocritical as all other religions.   The Bible consists of two parts - the Old and the New Testaments.   You refuse to recognise that many Christians still believe what is stated in the Old Testament.  Indeed, you refuse to even acknowledge the influence of the Old Testament on Christian belief and thought.  And guess what is in the Old Testament?  All the bits you don't like but Terrorists do.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Frank on May 15th, 2019 at 8:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 7:57pm:

moses wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 3:03pm:
Why won't muslims denounce the parts of their teachings which cause islamic terrorism?


Why won't Christians denounce the parts of their teachings which cause Christian Terrorism?

Which parts are those? Which Christian Terrorists?



Christianity is nothing like Islam, Bwian. Substituting Christianity in critical comments on Islam does not work. They are radically different.

But you, a Doktor of Divinity (second class stamp) know that already.



Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by freediver on May 15th, 2019 at 8:58pm
Brian did you get this crap about all religions being equal from your doctor of divinity? How long did you have to study to lose the ability to discern any differences between religions?

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Frank on May 15th, 2019 at 9:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

freediver wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 7:08am:
This is from the same person who claims to be generally critical of religions. Brian now complains that one religion deserves the same level of respect shown to another, regardless of whether the other is actually shown respect, and regardless of the merits of the ideology.


As usual, you get it wrong and twist it to suit your Islamophobia, FD.  It is not what I want or believe, it is what Muslims want and believe.   Detect the (un)subtle difference there?  MMmm?   ::)


What do YOU want and believe, Bwian?

And if it's not the same as what the Muslims want and believe , as you protest - why are you posting for beliefs you do not share?   What the F U C K ARE you on about? Bwian.




Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Brian Ross on May 15th, 2019 at 10:41pm

Frank wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 7:57pm:

moses wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 3:03pm:
Why won't muslims denounce the parts of their teachings which cause islamic terrorism?


Why won't Christians denounce the parts of their teachings which cause Christian Terrorism?

Which parts are those? Which Christian Terrorists?


These Christian Terrorists, Soren:




Quote:
Christianity is nothing like Islam, Bwian. Substituting Christianity in critical comments on Islam does not work. They are radically different.


No, they are not.  You appear not to understand the Christian and Jewish roots of Islam, Soren.  You really are such a sorry little man, you realise?  Such astounding ignorance, all contained in your little head.   ::)


Quote:
But you, a Doktor of Divinity (second class stamp) know that already.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Rolling in the mud patch in the little kiddies' playground again, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, look the adults are having an adult conversation, why don't you just tick off back to your little kiddies' playground?    ::)

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Brian Ross on May 15th, 2019 at 10:42pm

freediver wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 8:58pm:
Brian did you get this crap about all religions being equal from your doctor of divinity? How long did you have to study to lose the ability to discern any differences between religions?


Oh, no, FD.  There are differences but they are in reality minor ones really.  In particular Islam is afterall, based upon Jewish and Christian beliefs, now isn't it?  Tsk, tsk, tripped up again, hey?  What a shame.   ::)

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Brian Ross on May 15th, 2019 at 10:45pm

Frank wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

freediver wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 7:08am:
This is from the same person who claims to be generally critical of religions. Brian now complains that one religion deserves the same level of respect shown to another, regardless of whether the other is actually shown respect, and regardless of the merits of the ideology.


As usual, you get it wrong and twist it to suit your Islamophobia, FD.  It is not what I want or believe, it is what Muslims want and believe.   Detect the (un)subtle difference there?  MMmm?   ::)


What do YOU want and believe, Bwian?

And if it's not the same as what the Muslims want and believe , as you protest - why are you posting for beliefs you do not share?   What the F U C K ARE you on about? Bwian.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  Why are you so jealous of me?   Look, run along little chappie, enjoy yourself with your mates in the little kiddies' playground where you belong, OK?   ::)

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Yadda on May 15th, 2019 at 10:58pm


@ Reply #20,

Those aren't [Christian] terrorists!




These, are terrorists!      ...and every one of them is a mosque attending moslem.

IMAGE.....   .GIF






Every one, a latent, wanna-be-terrorist ?
--------- >

WWW search....
AL WALAA WAL BARAA




Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Laugh till you cry on May 15th, 2019 at 11:01pm

Yadda wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 10:58pm:


@ Reply #20,

Those aren't [Christian] terrorists!


These, are terrorists!      ...and every one of them is a mosque attending moslem.

IMAGE.....   .GIF


Every one, a latent, wanna-be-terrorist ?
--------- >

WWW search....
AL WALAA WAL BARAA


They have already defeated Yadda who has turned into a whimpering, blubbering, wretch.

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Karnal on May 15th, 2019 at 11:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 10:45pm:

Frank wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

freediver wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 7:08am:
This is from the same person who claims to be generally critical of religions. Brian now complains that one religion deserves the same level of respect shown to another, regardless of whether the other is actually shown respect, and regardless of the merits of the ideology.


As usual, you get it wrong and twist it to suit your Islamophobia, FD.  It is not what I want or believe, it is what Muslims want and believe.   Detect the (un)subtle difference there?  MMmm?   ::)


What do YOU want and believe, Bwian?

And if it's not the same as what the Muslims want and believe , as you protest - why are you posting for beliefs you do not share?   What the F U C K ARE you on about? Bwian.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  Why are you so jealous of me? 


Yes, alt jungend, we'd all like to know the answer to this one.

Why do you envy Brian so? Is it the doctorate? The superior culture? The kiddie's playground?

Don't feel bad, old boy. You attended the prestigious University of Balogney. You people have a fine NESB culture. You have a jolly time with your Mormor in the playground and everything.

If you blame Islam, that's okay. We all have our cross to bear. Now you shake hands with Brian and make up. We don't want this nonsense carrying on for another 10 years. Enough's enough.

Tsk tsk tsk ::)

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by freediver on May 16th, 2019 at 12:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 10:42pm:

freediver wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 8:58pm:
Brian did you get this crap about all religions being equal from your doctor of divinity? How long did you have to study to lose the ability to discern any differences between religions?


Oh, no, FD.  There are differences but they are in reality minor ones really.  In particular Islam is afterall, based upon Jewish and Christian beliefs, now isn't it?  Tsk, tsk, tripped up again, hey?  What a shame.   ::)


So there are no significant differences between Islam and other religions?

Again, did you have to study to lose you ability to discern, or is this a belief you carried through your study?

Or am I wrong to assume you studied for your doctor of divinity rather than getting it off the back of a corn flakes pack?

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by moses on May 16th, 2019 at 3:52pm
Corn flakes pack, that's insulting to Kellogs.

He got his off a used muslim toilet roll.

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Brian Ross on May 16th, 2019 at 8:10pm


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Here we see the Islamophobes at work again.  Tsk, tsk, why don't you lot just trot along back to your little kiddies' playground where you can play all day long with your little friends?   ::)

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by freediver on May 16th, 2019 at 9:01pm
So was this idiocy part of your 'doctor of divinity' study or not Brian?

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Brian Ross on May 16th, 2019 at 10:52pm

freediver wrote on May 16th, 2019 at 9:01pm:
So was this idiocy part of your 'doctor of divinity' study or not Brian?


You answer my questions, FD and I might answer yours...   ::)

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by freediver on May 17th, 2019 at 1:11pm
wunaway Brian

Title: Re: religions "deserve" respect
Post by Brian Ross on May 17th, 2019 at 3:33pm

freediver wrote on May 17th, 2019 at 1:11pm:
wunaway Brian


Nope.  I'll just stay here.  You're the one who steadfastly refuses to answer questions, FD.

What is that Karnal says?

Oh, yes.  What sound does a jellyfish make?   ::)

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