That is an indictment of the social and political systems in Australia with evidence building that the Australian economy is only buoyed by immigration.

The current financial distress is with interest rates at low levels. If interest rates rise there will be mayhem and property prices will plunge dramatically.

The A$ has just dropped below US$ 0.70 as the Trump tariffs on China rise dramatically. This could have an effect on Australian resource exporters.

When the sh*t is incoming will Australians have a fan let alone a home.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2018/aug/07/public-housing-is-as-scarce-as-hens-teeth-australia-needs-affordable-rental-homes


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... The findings suggest more than half of all Australians feel stretched to meet their current housing commitments, be they mortgage or rent. Forty-two per cent fear they could become homeless if their circumstances change. The market no longer provides a buffer to middle Australia. ...

As before - you show the occasional moment of lucidity - stick with it, kid...

This is a very good post....

Shows you the priorities, doesn't it?  They're all over the coal thing, but nobody gives a damn about the homeless and the homeless in waiting....

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 10:24pm:

Shows you the priorities, doesn't it?  They're all over the coal thing, but nobody gives a damn about the homeless and the homeless in waiting....

That's right.
You're not allowed to die, but we don't care how you live.

I find it funny when cops.come and move the homeless on. I asked a pair of smurfs one day "Where's he gonna go?" to which they replied "don't care, as long as he doesn't stay here".
Bloke was camped out in front of the big bank. Not allowed to stay there hey!  Fkk em. All the homeless should camp out there, every night.....forever.

all of us are potentially homeless.... :D

Captain Caveman wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:20am:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:24pm: Shows you the priorities, doesn't it?  They're all over the coal thing, but nobody gives a damn about the homeless and the homeless in waiting.... That's right. You're not allowed to die, but we don't care how you live. I find it funny when cops.come and move the homeless on. I asked a pair of smurfs one day "Where's he gonna go?" to which they replied "don't care, as long as he doesn't stay here". Bloke was camped out in front of the big bank. Not allowed to stay there hey!  Fkk em. All the homeless should camp out there, every night.....forever.

if you live in Tidy Town  they do look messy.... ::)

cods wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:31am:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 7:20am: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:24pm: Shows you the priorities, doesn't it?  They're all over the coal thing, but nobody gives a damn about the homeless and the homeless in waiting.... That's right. You're not allowed to die, but we don't care how you live. I find it funny when cops.come and move the homeless on. I asked a pair of smurfs one day "Where's he gonna go?" to which they replied "don't care, as long as he doesn't stay here". Bloke was camped out in front of the big bank. Not allowed to stay there hey!  Fkk em. All the homeless should camp out there, every night.....forever. if you live in Tidy Town  they do look messy.... ::)

And that is basically it.
Lives don't matter the way the news would have you believe. Lives are worthless when they look worthless. Yet a homeless man camped on the doorstep of an organisation that profits more than everyone's combined income on this forum on a monthly basis and he gets moved on. Sad hey? No wonder people are turning on this society. It is a joke. The charity comes from the people that almost need charity,  while the big wigs keep burning us at the stake.

Well - I went from owner of one home to buying a new one while married to a woman who worked for the State Premier, to homeless in about three years, between ages of 48 and 51 - after injury, job loss, divorce, and then illness.. as you all know by now, I've re-built and am now moving to an oceanside home (again, but with a comparatively small mortgage).... but without such experiences I would be retiring a rich man.  I also plan to start advocating for Veterans and will stand for our local council next time around as a true Independent.

I can say this without fear of contradiction - when you are in that position the whole world turns against you and treats you like utter garbage.  Even a lady I was shagging at one time when I thought I was stabilised again said to me that nobody gave one damn about what you are or have been - only what you seem to be now... then she dumped me as well due to peer pressure and her ex-husband's family pushing her around (country town - still exists in the 21st Century).

It is not for the faint-hearted, and it's a portion of my partial auto-bio that I've titled "Down Among The Dead Men".....  the funny thing is that while there I met at least two women who preferred living rough as a lifestyle... I suspected that at least one of them was an undercover journo or something - she was just too gorgie for words etc ...

As for my 'personal development ' as a result - I have far greater sympathy and understanding for those at the lower end of society now - certainly a lot more than I see from the elitists here of both left and right, which is one reason I champion the unemployed, the elderly, pensioners, the sick and the lame and halt etc.... and despise 'city hall' with its often pissant preference for groups who actually have far less need for money and services, and for the way it outright attacks those down on their luck.

Its treatment of me was contemptible, and I am unlikely to forget.

Captain Caveman wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:44am:

cods wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 7:31am: Captain Caveman wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 7:20am: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:24pm: Shows you the priorities, doesn't it?  They're all over the coal thing, but nobody gives a damn about the homeless and the homeless in waiting.... That's right. You're not allowed to die, but we don't care how you live. I find it funny when cops.come and move the homeless on. I asked a pair of smurfs one day "Where's he gonna go?" to which they replied "don't care, as long as he doesn't stay here". Bloke was camped out in front of the big bank. Not allowed to stay there hey!  Fkk em. All the homeless should camp out there, every night.....forever. if you live in Tidy Town  they do look messy.... ::) And that is basically it. Lives don't matter the way the news would have you believe. Lives are worthless when they look worthless. Yet a homeless man camped on the doorstep of an organisation that profits more than everyone's combined income on this forum on a monthly basis and he gets moved on. Sad hey? No wonder people are turning on this society. It is a joke. The charity comes from the people that almost need charity,  while the big wigs keep burning us at the stake.

its the way we are becoming....   surprisingly  a lot of people who live in doorways  or on parkbenches like it that way   they dont want responsibility they like moving from place to place...not all of course....but many...

look at the people that do get homes provided   people rent them decent homes to live in and they destroy them...I had it happen to me  so I speak from experience...it is a tough world and getting harder by the day....

have you noticed the younger generation wants more and more for doing less and less...

I see empathy going out of the door faster than ever before..

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

That is an indictment of the social and political systems in Australia with evidence building that the Australian economy is only buoyed by immigration. The current financial distress is with interest rates at low levels. If interest rates rise there will be mayhem and property prices will plunge dramatically. The A$ has just dropped below US$ 0.70 as the Trump tariffs on China rise dramatically. This could have an effect on Australian resource exporters. When the sh*t is incoming will Australians have a fan let alone a home. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2018/aug/07/public-housing-is-as-scarce-as-hens-teeth-australia-needs-affordable-rental-homes Quote: ... The findings suggest more than half of all Australians feel stretched to meet their current housing commitments, be they mortgage or rent. Forty-two per cent fear they could become homeless if their circumstances change. The market no longer provides a buffer to middle Australia. ...

Correct me if I am wrong but to the best of my knowledge unemployed Australians get social security benefits that allow them to rent accommodation.
How can they be than homeless? unless they use government money for alcohol or gambling.
If it is the case than that's their problem.

capitosinora wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 12:16pm: That is an indictment of the social and political systems in Australia with evidence building that the Australian economy is only buoyed by immigration. The current financial distress is with interest rates at low levels. If interest rates rise there will be mayhem and property prices will plunge dramatically. The A$ has just dropped below US$ 0.70 as the Trump tariffs on China rise dramatically. This could have an effect on Australian resource exporters. When the sh*t is incoming will Australians have a fan let alone a home. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2018/aug/07/public-housing-is-as-scarce-as-hens-teeth-australia-needs-affordable-rental-homes Quote: ... The findings suggest more than half of all Australians feel stretched to meet their current housing commitments, be they mortgage or rent. Forty-two per cent fear they could become homeless if their circumstances change. The market no longer provides a buffer to middle Australia. ... Correct me if I am wrong but to the best of my knowledge unemployed Australians get social security benefits that allow them to rent accommodation. How can they be than homeless? unless they use government money for alcohol or gambling. If it is the case than that's their problem.

Could it be that it's a case of rents taking up more than their unemployment income including rental subsidy?  Greed being good and all that....

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

capitosinora wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 10:36am: Laugh till you cry wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 12:16pm: That is an indictment of the social and political systems in Australia with evidence building that the Australian economy is only buoyed by immigration. The current financial distress is with interest rates at low levels. If interest rates rise there will be mayhem and property prices will plunge dramatically. The A$ has just dropped below US$ 0.70 as the Trump tariffs on China rise dramatically. This could have an effect on Australian resource exporters. When the sh*t is incoming will Australians have a fan let alone a home. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2018/aug/07/public-housing-is-as-scarce-as-hens-teeth-australia-needs-affordable-rental-homes Quote: ... The findings suggest more than half of all Australians feel stretched to meet their current housing commitments, be they mortgage or rent. Forty-two per cent fear they could become homeless if their circumstances change. The market no longer provides a buffer to middle Australia. ... Correct me if I am wrong but to the best of my knowledge unemployed Australians get social security benefits that allow them to rent accommodation. How can they be than homeless? unless they use government money for alcohol or gambling. If it is the case than that's their problem. Could it be that it's a case of rents taking up more than their unemployment income including rental subsidy?  Greed being good and all that....

I guess they can, for example, afford shear accommodation.

Yesterday I went to the footy GO PIES….!!!

A friend and I caught the train in and at the top end of town on the way to the G there were homeless people sleeping on the footpath of Collins street.

Then when we were headed back home on the train across the road from the casino/yarra under the rail bridge again a number of people setting up their bed for the night.

Very sad to see these homeless people sleeping on concrete, one thing is for sure they’re probably not around for long in the winter since they would be prone to pneumonia and god knows what.

I don’t know what can be done about this problem but it’s sad and all that we saw were men.

I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people.

Ajax wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Yesterday I went to the footy GO PIES….!!! A friend and I caught the train in and at the top end of town on the way to the G there were homeless people sleeping on the footpath of Collins street. Then when we were headed back home on the train across the road from the casino/yarra under the rail bridge again a number of people setting up their bed for the night. Very sad to see these homeless people sleeping on concrete, one thing is for sure they’re probably not around for long in the winter since they would be prone to pneumonia and god knows what. I don’t know what can be done about this problem but it’s sad and all that we saw were men. I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people.

It is sad. That is why I can't understand how our piss weak gov help hundreds of thousands of people that don't live here yet the ones that do....tuff titties. All this caring bullshyte we are exposed to daily on the msn's yet behind  the scenes, after the take, it is all forgotten about.

We have elderly in this country still with a roof over their head but struggling financially. Every week they wonder how long they have to live and....If they will still live under a roof.  That ain't fair. This country needs a fkkkn big shake up. Remove the morons from power that are making these stupid decisions. Screw the world. Look after our own.

capitosinora wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:56am:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 10:41am: Could it be that it's a case of rents taking up more than their unemployment income including rental subsidy?  Greed being good and all that.... I guess they can, for example, afford shear accommodation.

Not easy when many of them have mental issues as well... usually those are made worse, not better, buy the stresses of living on the streets..

At one time during my wanderings, I 'shared' a house with three other guys - one was a raging schizo, one a drug addicted young guy from a violent background, the other, the only decent one, a guy with serious brain damage caused by being thrown from the passenger seat of a car.

The schiz would do nasty things behind people's backs all the time, the druggo once threatened me with a knife and got decked, he did that while I was taking the schizo to task over putting burnt food from a saucepan in the jacket of my coat hanging in the wardrobe... that's the kind of thing he used to pull and then he'd play the innocent when anyone from the organisation that ran the show came around...

Needless to say I didn't stay there long... can you imagine that kind of stress at a time when you are watching your life collapse after years of hard work, honesty, loyalty and so forth?

bugger City Hall!  I want to see it all go up in flames - but unlike the Abo sheila in Malbun - I've got cause.. and Just Cause it is, too!

See what I mean about :-  "Down Among The Dead Men?"

Ajax wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Yesterday I went to the footy GO PIES….!!! A friend and I caught the train in and at the top end of town on the way to the G there were homeless people sleeping on the footpath of Collins street. Then when we were headed back home on the train across the road from the casino/yarra under the rail bridge again a number of people setting up their bed for the night. Very sad to see these homeless people sleeping on concrete, one thing is for sure they’re probably not around for long in the winter since they would be prone to pneumonia and god knows what. I don’t know what can be done about this problem but it’s sad and all that we saw were men. I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people.

Women are more ashamed of living on the street and try to stay out of sight, unless they're too gone in the head

Don't know if you've seen all the news reports about women living in their car, many of them employed?  Many have children and pets.  Somehow they manage to get their kids off to school, take the pets for a run before taking the car to work.  They're waiting for subsidised housing.  Raising families on their own in dire circumstances.  Where are the fathers?

A woman I know of had full-time employment, public service.  Good pay. Don't know what she was doing with her money, although she was close to being full-time at the pubs outside of working hours.  She showered somewhere in the city, blow-dried her hair.  Kept her clothes in lockers at work until told to stop.  Spent hours in the office outside working hours, claiming she was 'catching up' on work, emails etc. -- until told she must stop.  Had her mail delivered to work, until told it must stop.  She had a married daughter (with family) close to her place of employment and the daughter let her live there until it became too much. So she'd live there a week or so before being asked to leave.  Month later she was back at the daughter's until told to leave again

The woman was close to sixty.  Always appeared well dressed.  Avoided actual work whenever possible, claiming a variety of physical conditions.  Eventually she was phased out of the workplace after which she spent most of her time in pubs, according to those who knew her

She'd had a partner for many years, but when that fell through, she was left homeless

good pay through decades, yet nothing to show for it

Every circumstance is different


You say:


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I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people

.

You think homelessness is a sexist issue?

How many homeless men living under bridges with their kids have you seen?

PZ547 wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 11:29am:

Ajax wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 11:08am: Yesterday I went to the footy GO PIES….!!! A friend and I caught the train in and at the top end of town on the way to the G there were homeless people sleeping on the footpath of Collins street. Then when we were headed back home on the train across the road from the casino/yarra under the rail bridge again a number of people setting up their bed for the night. Very sad to see these homeless people sleeping on concrete, one thing is for sure they’re probably not around for long in the winter since they would be prone to pneumonia and god knows what. I don’t know what can be done about this problem but it’s sad and all that we saw were men. I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people. Women are more ashamed of living on the street and try to stay out of sight, unless they're too gone in the head Don't know if you've seen all the news reports about women living in their car, many of them employed?  Many have children and pets.  Somehow they manage to get their kids off to school, take the pets for a run before taking the car to work.  They're waiting for subsidised housing.  Raising families on their own in dire circumstances.  Where are the fathers? A woman I know of had full-time employment, public service.  Good pay. Don't know what she was doing with her money, although she was close to being full-time at the pubs outside of working hours.  She showered somewhere in the city, blow-dried her hair.  Kept her clothes in lockers at work until told to stop.  Spent hours in the office outside working hours, claiming she was 'catching up' on work, emails etc. -- until told she must stop.  Had her mail delivered to work, until told it must stop.  She had a married daughter (with family) close to her place of employment and the daughter let her live there until it became too much. So she'd live there a week or so before being asked to leave.  Month later she was back at the daughter's until told to leave again The woman was close to sixty.  Always appeared well dressed.  Avoided actual work whenever possible, claiming a variety of physical conditions.  Eventually she was phased out of the workplace after which she spent most of her time in pubs, according to those who knew her She'd had a partner for many years, but when that fell through, she was left homeless good pay through decades, yet nothing to show for it Every circumstance is different You say: Quote: I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people . You think homelessness is a sexist issue? How many homeless men living under bridges with their kids have you seen?

I'm not trying to be sexist man or woman its sad to see sorry if it came across like that.

There should be some sort of support that's what I'm getting at helping these people.

Ajax wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 11:41am:

PZ547 wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 11:29am: Ajax wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 11:08am: Yesterday I went to the footy GO PIES….!!! A friend and I caught the train in and at the top end of town on the way to the G there were homeless people sleeping on the footpath of Collins street. Then when we were headed back home on the train across the road from the casino/yarra under the rail bridge again a number of people setting up their bed for the night. Very sad to see these homeless people sleeping on concrete, one thing is for sure they’re probably not around for long in the winter since they would be prone to pneumonia and god knows what. I don’t know what can be done about this problem but it’s sad and all that we saw were men. I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people. Women are more ashamed of living on the street and try to stay out of sight, unless they're too gone in the head Don't know if you've seen all the news reports about women living in their car, many of them employed?  Many have children and pets.  Somehow they manage to get their kids off to school, take the pets for a run before taking the car to work.  They're waiting for subsidised housing.  Raising families on their own in dire circumstances.  Where are the fathers? A woman I know of had full-time employment, public service.  Good pay. Don't know what she was doing with her money, although she was close to being full-time at the pubs outside of working hours.  She showered somewhere in the city, blow-dried her hair.  Kept her clothes in lockers at work until told to stop.  Spent hours in the office outside working hours, claiming she was 'catching up' on work, emails etc. -- until told she must stop.  Had her mail delivered to work, until told it must stop.  She had a married daughter (with family) close to her place of employment and the daughter let her live there until it became too much. So she'd live there a week or so before being asked to leave.  Month later she was back at the daughter's until told to leave again The woman was close to sixty.  Always appeared well dressed.  Avoided actual work whenever possible, claiming a variety of physical conditions.  Eventually she was phased out of the workplace after which she spent most of her time in pubs, according to those who knew her She'd had a partner for many years, but when that fell through, she was left homeless good pay through decades, yet nothing to show for it Every circumstance is different You say: Quote: I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people . You think homelessness is a sexist issue? How many homeless men living under bridges with their kids have you seen? I'm not trying to be sexist man or woman its sad to see sorry if it came across like that. There should be some sort of support that's what I'm getting at helping these people.

Most of us feel the same way

but as someone in this thread has already said, some of them are happy enough with their lot

they receive welfare

what more can society do, other than provide money and housing where possible?

If they choose to enter shelters for the night, there are strict conditions, one of them being no drinking, no fighting, etc.  After all, volunteers spend their own valuable time running those shelters and organising bedding and food for those in need. We've seen what's happening now to paramedics and hospital staff when trying to help those who're intoxicated, drunk and aggressive

They'll be provided rent allowance if they find somewhere to stay.  Many people are scratching for money now, as always, and they advertise rooms for rent in their own homes.  But again, no one wants a drunk or druggie around the place

so it's a matter of priorities -- place to live, no matter how humble, or drink/drugs

An elderly guy started to be seen in Burleigh Heads some years ago.  He claimed he'd been cycling around Australia when he and his dog were hit by a car.  The dog was killed, he said, and he'd spent weeks in hospital.  He had everyone's sympathy, a good gift of the gab, and never wanted for food, clothing, because most people try to give a hand up.  But the police were called to remove him from beneath the church, which was very close to the main street.  The guy had taken to sleeping under the church, living off the generosity of shop owners, and spending his welfare on grog.  He was removed from under the church numerous times and had been repeatedly offered housing.  He refused housing offers and insisted he liked it under the church.  People grew tired of him and their generosity dried up

every circumstance is different

a lot of the homeless have developed their own community.  Many claim they're happier on the streets.  Some exploit their situation

maybe if a gun was rammed into their back to drive them out of town, they might change their tune, who knows?  Others are basically letting society know that they're beyond help and asking to be put out of their misery, while others have mental health problems (not the SJW variety) and should be in institutions -- same places they were before the government decided they'd be happier out on the street

no one has an answer, and every case is different

Ajax wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 11:41am:

PZ547 wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 11:29am: Ajax wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 11:08am: Yesterday I went to the footy GO PIES….!!! A friend and I caught the train in and at the top end of town on the way to the G there were homeless people sleeping on the footpath of Collins street. Then when we were headed back home on the train across the road from the casino/yarra under the rail bridge again a number of people setting up their bed for the night. Very sad to see these homeless people sleeping on concrete, one thing is for sure they’re probably not around for long in the winter since they would be prone to pneumonia and god knows what. I don’t know what can be done about this problem but it’s sad and all that we saw were men. I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people. Women are more ashamed of living on the street and try to stay out of sight, unless they're too gone in the head Don't know if you've seen all the news reports about women living in their car, many of them employed?  Many have children and pets.  Somehow they manage to get their kids off to school, take the pets for a run before taking the car to work.  They're waiting for subsidised housing.  Raising families on their own in dire circumstances.  Where are the fathers? A woman I know of had full-time employment, public service.  Good pay. Don't know what she was doing with her money, although she was close to being full-time at the pubs outside of working hours.  She showered somewhere in the city, blow-dried her hair.  Kept her clothes in lockers at work until told to stop.  Spent hours in the office outside working hours, claiming she was 'catching up' on work, emails etc. -- until told she must stop.  Had her mail delivered to work, until told it must stop.  She had a married daughter (with family) close to her place of employment and the daughter let her live there until it became too much. So she'd live there a week or so before being asked to leave.  Month later she was back at the daughter's until told to leave again The woman was close to sixty.  Always appeared well dressed.  Avoided actual work whenever possible, claiming a variety of physical conditions.  Eventually she was phased out of the workplace after which she spent most of her time in pubs, according to those who knew her She'd had a partner for many years, but when that fell through, she was left homeless good pay through decades, yet nothing to show for it Every circumstance is different You say: Quote: I wonder if half were women if the government or society would change its stance on homeless people . You think homelessness is a sexist issue? How many homeless men living under bridges with their kids have you seen? I'm not trying to be sexist man or woman its sad to see sorry if it came across like that. There should be some sort of support that's what I'm getting at helping these people.

??????

It's not that women are more ashamed. They are more scared. It's not safe to be out there.

Spot

PZ547 wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 11:29am:

You think homelessness is a sexist issue? How many homeless men living under bridges with their kids have you seen?

How many men have you seen with their kids after separation is the real question.

How many women do you see living under bridges with kids?

How many women do you see sleeping under city street awnings with kids?

Answers only - no sledging and obfuscation... let's keep to simple realities here.....

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:54pm:

PZ547 wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 11:29am: You think homelessness is a sexist issue? How many homeless men living under bridges with their kids have you seen? How many men have you seen with their kids after separation is the real question. How many women do you see living under bridges with kids? How many women do you see sleeping under city street awnings with kids? Answers only - no sledging and obfuscation... let's keep to simple realities here.....

As someone said earlier the women generally stay out of sight. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. Just look at the statistics

Spot

USA leads to homelessness and poverty!
Stick with Britain.  ;)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:38pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 7:54pm: PZ547 wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 11:29am: You think homelessness is a sexist issue? How many homeless men living under bridges with their kids have you seen? How many men have you seen with their kids after separation is the real question. How many women do you see living under bridges with kids? How many women do you see sleeping under city street awnings with kids? Answers only - no sledging and obfuscation... let's keep to simple realities here..... As someone said earlier the women generally stay out of sight. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. Just look at the statistics Spot

Quite wrong - 'homeless' has a number of definitions, including staying with friends or family... most women in the 'homeless' situation are in a home somewhere, somehow... whereas most men are in hostels or under the bridges - 'sleeping rough' is the term used.

Women also get first call on housing from agencies.....and thus may be defined as 'homeless', but actually 'housed'..... huge difference...

Anne Ecdote:- The ex and I are moving to a new house - it has a room in the garage, with a shower and toilet, but for some reason a wall had been taken down... a friend of hers was looking down the barrel of homelessness, and I said - "I'll fix the wall and such, put in the microwave and the small electric oven, put in air con, and she can live there.. the car lives in the carport anyway.... and the other stuff takes up about 20% of the front of the big garage..."

Now - how many men  get that kind of consideration?

Read up on it, and see what is actually involved.... it is rare for a women to 'sleep rough', though some do, and even when I myself was homeless, I tried to get women into a 'safe place'....

You really have to be there.... take some time off from work etc, go undercover, and see for yourself what it is like to live 'on the street'....... take a week at it ..... your eyes will awaken wide....

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:54pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 10:38pm: Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 7:54pm: PZ547 wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 11:29am: You think homelessness is a sexist issue? How many homeless men living under bridges with their kids have you seen? How many men have you seen with their kids after separation is the real question. How many women do you see living under bridges with kids? How many women do you see sleeping under city street awnings with kids? Answers only - no sledging and obfuscation... let's keep to simple realities here..... As someone said earlier the women generally stay out of sight. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. Just look at the statistics Spot Quite wrong - 'homeless' has a number of definitions, including staying with friends or family... most women in the 'homeless' situation are in a home somewhere, somehow... whereas most men are in hostels or under the bridges - 'sleeping rough' is the term used. Women also get first call on housing from agencies.....and thus may be defined as 'homeless', but actually 'housed'..... huge difference... Anne Ecdote:- The ex and I are moving to a new house - it has a room in the garage, with a shower and toilet, but for some reason a wall had been taken down... a friend of hers was looking down the barrel of homelessness, and I said - "I'll fix the wall and such, put in the microwave and the small electric oven, put in air con, and she can live there.. the car lives in the carport anyway.... and the other stuff takes up about 20% of the front of the big garage..." Now - how many men  get that kind of consideration? Read up on it, and see what is actually involved.... it is rare for a women to 'sleep rough', though some do, and even when I myself was homeless, I tried to get women into a 'safe place'.... You really have to be there.... take some time off from work etc, go undercover, and see for yourself what it is like to live 'on the street'....... take a week at it ..... your eyes will awaken wide....

Seriously? You don't know whether I have been homeless or not. Reading up on it wouldn't help in any case. If what you say about women is true then good because like I said its not safe out there. I have seen women in Sydney sleeping rough like the men though. Recently and quite a few of them. They don't go under bridges as much though and choose places in the open where there are a lot of other ppl.

Spot

Coalition stopped welfare payments to 55,000 homeless or at-risk jobseekers in six months

About 55,000 jobseekers who were without a home or on the cusp of homelessness have had their welfare payments temporarily suspended under the government’s new compliance regime, despite the Coalition saying it would include “protections for the most vulnerable”.

Updated Senate estimates figures show 55,714 homeless or at-risk people who get payments such as Newstart received a suspension between July 2018, when the system came into effect, and December 2018.

As of 31 December, Centrelink counted 58,878 homeless jobseekers on its books, though the total number over the six-month period would be greater as people moved in and out of the system.

As Scott Morrison and Bill Shorten faced questions about the low rate of Newstart on the campaign trail on Friday, the chief executive of the Australian Council of Social Service, Cassandra Goldie, said the new figures showed “the social security horror show in action”.