Yeah Morriscum was spruiking this dodgy modelling !

Disgusting prick!


Quote:

More Dodgy Climate Modelling with Flawed Assumptions New analysis of the new BAE economics modelling by Brian Fisher released today, highlights that it is based on numerous flawed assumptions which cast serious doubt to the validity of the claims contained. Key Findings:     Fisher’s results are contradicted by a large economic literature. The Australia Institute has identified 17 reports from the last five years alone and 3 major reports from Treasury. They show deep cuts are possible with very small or positive economic impacts and strong ongoing economic growth.     Fisher uses costs of abatement that are ridiculously high and widely contradicted. They are many times higher than government commissioned assessments from three years ago.     Fisher explicitly ignores the high cost of inaction. Despite citing a report that says the costs of inaction to Australia are more than $130bn a year – even without considering disaster impacts.     Fisher misrepresents Australia’s commitment under the Paris Agreement. He conflates Paris with current 26% ‘down-payment’ pledge, when in fact in the Paris Agreement,  Australia agreed that “much  greater  emission  reduction  efforts  will  be  required” to 2030. “While there is legitimate debate on the best climate policy for Australia, it is important that information is factual,” said Richie Merzian, Climate & Energy Program Director at The Australia Institute. “The last time Australians saw Labor’s climate policies in action, emissions went down 2%, the economy grew by 5% and employment increased by 200,000 jobs. Given that experience, why would anyone place any weight on Brian Fisher’s modelling which predicts the exact opposite happening? “The modelling uses the absurdly high price of over $400 a tonne if there is no trading. It assumes firming costs for renewable energy could be as high as $200 MWh when the Government-owned Snowy 2.0 is offering firmed renewable contracts at $70MWh. “This new modelling also excludes the huge cost of climate impacts resulting from weak versus ambitious reduction targets, which by a study Fisher himself previously referenced, is around $130 billion per year. “The Government has an entire department at its disposal with hundreds of economists. It is very telling that the Minister Angus Taylor and this Government are relying on one report from one consultant who critics say has a long history of working for the coal industry and frankly, he’s never met a climate action policy that he’s liked.”

http://www.tai.org.au/content/more-dodgy-climate-modelling-flawed-assumptions

Redmond Neck wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 3:54pm:

“The modelling uses the absurdly high price of over $400 a tonne if there is no trading. It assumes firming costs for renewable energy could be as high as $200 MWh when the Government-owned Snowy 2.0 is offering firmed renewable contracts at $70MWh.

Of course the Hydro is good. But there are limitations on Hydro in Australia. And that is before the greenies get involved and want to stop any damming, because it will drown the land.

Why did they use that when it is not even a mean pricing point?

As an example the SA battery. Cost $90 million for 100MW/h. And that isn't even the total cost.

There is an ongoing cost of $4-5 million/year.   And still more costs on top of that.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-27/tesla-battery-cost-revealed-two-years-after-blackout/10310680


Redmond Neck wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 3:54pm:

“The Government has an entire department at its disposal with hundreds of economists. It is very telling that the Minister Angus Taylor and this Government are relying on one report from one consultant who critics say has a long history of working for the coal industry and frankly, he’s never met a climate action policy that he’s liked.”

And yet -


Redmond Neck wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 3:54pm:

“While there is legitimate debate on the best climate policy for Australia, it is important that information is factual,” said Richie Merzian, Climate & Energy Program Director at The Australia Institute.

They use only one economic think tank to debunk.

And guess what? They are a "progressive" think tank.

"The Australia Institute"

https://www.chifley.org.au/links/

Who woudda thunk. ;)

lee wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 4:13pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 3:54pm: “The modelling uses the absurdly high price of over $400 a tonne if there is no trading. It assumes firming costs for renewable energy could be as high as $200 MWh when the Government-owned Snowy 2.0 is offering firmed renewable contracts at $70MWh. Of course the Hydro is good. But there are limitations on Hydro in Australia. And that is before the greenies get involved and want to stop any damming, because it will drown the land. Why did they use that when it is not even a mean pricing point? As an example the SA battery. Cost $90 million for 100MW/h. And that isn't even the total cost. There is an ongoing cost of $4-5 million/year.   And still more costs on top of that. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-27/tesla-battery-cost-revealed-two-years-after-blackout/10310680 Redmond Neck wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 3:54pm: “The Government has an entire department at its disposal with hundreds of economists. It is very telling that the Minister Angus Taylor and this Government are relying on one report from one consultant who critics say has a long history of working for the coal industry and frankly, he’s never met a climate action policy that he’s liked.” And yet - Redmond Neck wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 3:54pm: “While there is legitimate debate on the best climate policy for Australia, it is important that information is factual,” said Richie Merzian, Climate & Energy Program Director at The Australia Institute. They use only one economic think tank to debunk. And guess what? They are a "progressive" think tank. "The Australia Institute" https://www.chifley.org.au/links/ Who woullda thunk. ;)

Would you prefer "The Sydney Institute" ?

Or

"The Institute Of Public Affairs"?

Redmond Neck wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 3:54pm:

Dodgy Climate Change Modelling Spruiked Moronscum

You have to have serious doubts about a source that doesn't know the difference between climate modelling and economic modelling

;D ;D ;D ;D

Redmond Neck wrote on May 3^rd, 2019 at 4:33pm:

Would you prefer "The Sydney Institute" ? Or "The Institute Of Public Affairs"?

I am not the one complaining about using only one outfit petal.  A clear case of pot meet kettle. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D