Most times when Climate change or the Earth getting destroyed or Animal species dying, someone will come up with.
"we are to over populated"
So far I haven't really heard any reasonable ways this can be done.
Yes Yes we can kill the poor or the Muslims or go Mad Max style and let anarchy rule.
None of these ways are realistic.
I use the guideline of" if I want a depopulation would I be willing to support those measures if it involved my own family", would I want to see some of my grandchildren culled for the worlds sake, would I be happy to have no grandchildren.

Education is always the big one that you hear will change things.... will education stop a couple of horney teens from rooting or stop sexual abuse in a war.....
Contraception seems to be the best solution, maybe even putting it in the water of some places like fluoride (although there would be no choice there)
Let the women around the world have free access to contraceptives, that might do it.
We always seam to think of the 3rd world countries when we think of population problem but there are lots of other people in the world, so how about them.
Start to penalize people who have kids instead of rewarding them like we do in Australia.
Was china's solution of 1 child really so bad.

I'm sure there are reasonable ways to reduce the population and id love to hear them. ;)

This will sound cruel but it's needed:

People all over the world should need a license to breed.
There should be compulsory abortions and a large fine for woman who get pregnant without a license.
People with undesirable traits should not got a license.
People who don't have any way of properly supporting their children should not get a license.

Undesirable traits could be:
low IQ - no more halfwits breeding more halfwits.
obesity,
short & fat,
congenital abnormalities,
medical conditions based on hereditary such as
diabetes or a family history of insanity.
Any other trait considered to be unwanted.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 7:40am:

This will sound cruel but it's needed: People all over the world should need a license to breed. There should be compulsory abortions and a large fine for woman who get pregnant without a license. People with undesirable traits should not got a license. People who don't have any way of properly supporting their children should not get a license. Undesirable traits could be: low IQ - no more halfwits breeding more halfwits. obesity, short & fat, congenital abnormalities, medical conditions based on hereditary such as diabetes or a family history of insanity. Any other trait considered to be unwanted.

so compulsory contraceptives for these people ?

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/04/27/the-agriculture-industry-is-responsible-for-multidrug-resistance-resulting-deaths/

A yeast is killing immunocompromised patients in hospitals, clinics, and nursing homes at a fast pace —  up to 40-60% of those who suffer bloodstream infections now die in a month’s time. The reason for the rise in patient deaths is agricultural applications, which generate drug resistance across multiple human bacterial infections. This drug resistance kills 23,000-100,000 in the US annually. If you extend that death toll to global infections, we’re looking at 700,000 people worldwide.

Is this sort of thing what we need to get rid of the population ? ;)

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 8:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:40am: This will sound cruel but it's needed: People all over the world should need a license to breed. There should be compulsory abortions and a large fine for woman who get pregnant without a license. People with undesirable traits should not got a license. People who don't have any way of properly supporting their children should not get a license. Undesirable traits could be: low IQ - no more halfwits breeding more halfwits. obesity, short & fat, congenital abnormalities, medical conditions based on hereditary such as diabetes or a family history of insanity. Any other trait considered to be unwanted. so compulsory contraceptives for these people ?

Sterilization would be preferred.
We can't continue to breed faulty people in their billions.

A Uganda mom pumps out 38 children!

Mariam Nabatanzi takes a family portrait with some of her children at their home in Kasawo village, March 8. Mariam Nabatanzi gave birth to twins a year after she was married off at the age of 12. Five more sets of twins followed - along with four sets of triplets and five sets of quadruplets. Three years ago, however, the 39-year-old Ugandan was abandoned by her husband, leaving her to support their surviving 38 children alone. REUTERS/James Akena

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Bobby. wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 8:27am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:16am: Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:40am: This will sound cruel but it's needed: People all over the world should need a license to breed. There should be compulsory abortions and a large fine for woman who get pregnant without a license. People with undesirable traits should not got a license. People who don't have any way of properly supporting their children should not get a license. Undesirable traits could be: low IQ - no more halfwits breeding more halfwits. obesity, short & fat, congenital abnormalities, medical conditions based on hereditary such as diabetes or a family history of insanity. Any other trait considered to be unwanted. so compulsory contraceptives for these people ? Sterilization would be preferred. We can't continue to breed faulty people in their billions.

are you volunteering to go first?

It's sobering to learn that those with a good quality of life make up only 8% of the world's population

To qualify in that 8%, a person must have access to water, food, education, medicine

The percentage must shrink when you add easily accessed transportation, unlimited consumer goods, sophisticated surgery, unhindered travel and all that we enjoy in this country and UK, US, much of Europe

interestingly, it is those in the top 8% and higher echelons who are concerned about overpopulation

and it is those in that top handfull of privilege who have restricted their own breeding to around 2 children.  In other words, those who enjoy the best lifestyles and opportunities are diminishing their own numbers

the remaining 92% continue to increase their populations, often to massive and unsustainable degree

The governments of the top 8% are importing people from the 92%

There are many measures to reduce the population within the law.

lets see here are some,

Cigarettes

Why doesn't the government legislate so tabaco companies have to take out all the chemicals that aren't in natural tabaco, shelf life comes to mind.

Medicine, Pills & Co

After 70 years of age its up to the person whether they want the medication....its law....after 70 you're pretty much on the scrap heap, if you decide no more pills then happy birthday to you.

After 80 if you get hospitalized you're pretty much f@rked....lucky to get out alive, would have to be a strong old fella or gal...they asses and administer whether the patient can take it is another matter.

I should add that if you're lucky to be in the 1% or associated with them or just filthy rich this doesn't apply to you.

United Nations

Preaching to the world that homosexuality and transgenderism is natural for humans and is part of nature

Turn as much of the population as possible into gays, no babies born by these people

Nothing can be further from the truth, being homosexual is going against nature.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 8:27am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:16am: Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:40am: This will sound cruel but it's needed: People all over the world should need a license to breed. There should be compulsory abortions and a large fine for woman who get pregnant without a license. People with undesirable traits should not got a license. People who don't have any way of properly supporting their children should not get a license. Undesirable traits could be: low IQ - no more halfwits breeding more halfwits. obesity, short & fat, congenital abnormalities, medical conditions based on hereditary such as diabetes or a family history of insanity. Any other trait considered to be unwanted. so compulsory contraceptives for these people ? Sterilization would be preferred. We can't continue to breed faulty people in their billions.

I  guess ultimately your goal would be to have an Aryan master race. Although hasn't that been tried before?


Right wing nut jobs have suggested before on this forum that "inferior" people should have compulsory sterilization but no body has actually been able to come up with a practical and realistic way of accomplishing this.
It is all just thought doodles 

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 11:36am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:27am: DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:16am: Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:40am: This will sound cruel but it's needed: People all over the world should need a license to breed. There should be compulsory abortions and a large fine for woman who get pregnant without a license. People with undesirable traits should not got a license. People who don't have any way of properly supporting their children should not get a license. Undesirable traits could be: low IQ - no more halfwits breeding more halfwits. obesity, short & fat, congenital abnormalities, medical conditions based on hereditary such as diabetes or a family history of insanity. Any other trait considered to be unwanted. so compulsory contraceptives for these people ? Sterilization would be preferred. We can't continue to breed faulty people in their billions. I  guess ultimately your goal would be to have an Aryan master race. Although hasn't that been tried before? Right wing nut jobs have suggested before on this forum that "inferior" people should have compulsory sterilization but no body has actually been able to come up with a practical and realistic way of accomplishing this. It is all just thought doodles

Your current lifestyle, which I'm sure you'd be unwilling to surrender

was provided courtesty of northern Europeans

When did you decide to leave Oz for the trash piles of south east asia or the mud huts of Africa? 

but it's true that overpopulation will erode Western lifestyles, including yours, unless you're fortunate to die beforehand and leave the coming mess to your descendants

the planet is the equivalent of a paddock into which the greedy farmer squeezes more.  People in Oz, which has an enviable lifestyle compared to most, are beginning to feel the squeeze

do you see India or Africa et al coming up with a solution for your descendants?  If so, let us know

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 7:40am:

This will sound cruel but it's needed: People all over the world should need a license to breed. There should be compulsory abortions and a large fine for woman who get pregnant without a license. People with undesirable traits should not got a license. People who don't have any way of properly supporting their children should not get a license. Undesirable traits could be: low IQ - no more halfwits breeding more halfwits. obesity, short & fat, congenital abnormalities, medical conditions based on hereditary such as diabetes or a family history of insanity. Any other trait considered to be unwanted.

Heil Bobbi.

Those are exactly the policies published in "Mein Kampf".

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01504/salute_1504842c.jpg

I can handle all the shitholes around the world breeding themselves out of existence but do they have to come here?

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 11:43am:

Your current lifestyle, which I'm sure you'd be unwilling to surrender was provided courtesty of northern Europeans

China has been keeping Australia afloat for the past couple of decades



PZ547 wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 11:43am:

When did you decide to leave Oz for the trash piles of south east asia or the mud huts of Africa?  but it's true that overpopulation will erode Western lifestyles, including yours, unless you're fortunate to die beforehand and leave the coming mess to your descendants the planet is the equivalent of a paddock into which the greedy farmer squeezes more.  People in Oz, which has an enviable lifestyle compared to most, are beginning to feel the squeeze do you see India or Africa et al coming up with a solution for your descendants?  If so, let us know

No I don't have the answers, but I'm also sure that compulsory sterilization isn't one of them. It's also enlightening that the members who promote this policy are among the most bigoted on this forum so I question their motivations.

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 12:04pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:43am: Your current lifestyle, which I'm sure you'd be unwilling to surrender was provided courtesty of northern Europeans China has been keeping Australia afloat for the past couple of decades PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:43am: When did you decide to leave Oz for the trash piles of south east asia or the mud huts of Africa?  but it's true that overpopulation will erode Western lifestyles, including yours, unless you're fortunate to die beforehand and leave the coming mess to your descendants the planet is the equivalent of a paddock into which the greedy farmer squeezes more.  People in Oz, which has an enviable lifestyle compared to most, are beginning to feel the squeeze do you see India or Africa et al coming up with a solution for your descendants?  If so, let us know No I don't have the answers, but I'm also sure that compulsory sterilization isn't one of them. It's also enlightening that the members who promote this policy are among the most bigoted on this forum so I question their motivations.

What's your solution?

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 12:05pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 12:04pm: PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:43am: Your current lifestyle, which I'm sure you'd be unwilling to surrender was provided courtesty of northern Europeans China has been keeping Australia afloat for the past couple of decades PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:43am: When did you decide to leave Oz for the trash piles of south east asia or the mud huts of Africa?  but it's true that overpopulation will erode Western lifestyles, including yours, unless you're fortunate to die beforehand and leave the coming mess to your descendants the planet is the equivalent of a paddock into which the greedy farmer squeezes more.  People in Oz, which has an enviable lifestyle compared to most, are beginning to feel the squeeze do you see India or Africa et al coming up with a solution for your descendants?  If so, let us know No I don't have the answers, but I'm also sure that compulsory sterilization isn't one of them. It's also enlightening that the members who promote this policy are among the most bigoted on this forum so I question their motivations. What's your solution?

Improving education. especially of women.
Once a population gets educated, the birth rate drops.

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 12:05pm: The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 12:04pm: PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:43am: Your current lifestyle, which I'm sure you'd be unwilling to surrender was provided courtesty of northern Europeans China has been keeping Australia afloat for the past couple of decades PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:43am: When did you decide to leave Oz for the trash piles of south east asia or the mud huts of Africa?  but it's true that overpopulation will erode Western lifestyles, including yours, unless you're fortunate to die beforehand and leave the coming mess to your descendants the planet is the equivalent of a paddock into which the greedy farmer squeezes more.  People in Oz, which has an enviable lifestyle compared to most, are beginning to feel the squeeze do you see India or Africa et al coming up with a solution for your descendants?  If so, let us know No I don't have the answers, but I'm also sure that compulsory sterilization isn't one of them. It's also enlightening that the members who promote this policy are among the most bigoted on this forum so I question their motivations. What's your solution? Improving education. especially of women. Once a population gets educated, the birth rate drops.

Ok.  Off you go and educate the women in the 3rd world

then get started on the men in the 3rd world

and let us know how you fare with the leaders of the 3rd world who might have objections to your presuming to interfere

meanwhile, babies are landing at a rate of who knows how many per minute, worldwide

frankly, I think you're too late with your education solution

Australia should stop all immigration for a while until we set the level of population we can sustain.
Our own birth rate is low so we could even lose some population from present levels.
Australia should be setting the example for the rest of the world.
Never mind the usual cultural cringers and self loathing virtue signallers, Australia can be the world leader.

miketrees wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 12:29pm:

Australia should stop all immigration for a while until we set the level of population we can sustain. Our own birth rate is low so we could even lose some population from present levels. Australia should be setting the example for the rest of the world. Never mind the usual cultural cringers and self loathing virtue signallers, Australia can be the world leader.

Japan's already setting that agenda, Mike. An ageing population, no growth, declining wages.

Everybody keeps telling them, if they don't breed, they'll need to bring some in.

But do they listen? No.

Wacism, innit.

Enquiring mind wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

miketrees wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 12:29pm: Australia should stop all immigration for a while until we set the level of population we can sustain. Our own birth rate is low so we could even lose some population from present levels. Australia should be setting the example for the rest of the world. Never mind the usual cultural cringers and self loathing virtue signallers, Australia can be the world leader. Japan's already setting that agenda, Mike. An ageing population, no growth, declining wages. Everybody keeps telling them, if they don't breed, they'll need to bring some in. But do they listen? No. Wacism, innit.

They are over a 100,000,000 people on a group of islands which is mostly mountains. They are already 50,000,000+ people over populated.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:40am: This will sound cruel but it's needed: People all over the world should need a license to breed. There should be compulsory abortions and a large fine for woman who get pregnant without a license. People with undesirable traits should not got a license. People who don't have any way of properly supporting their children should not get a license. Undesirable traits could be: low IQ - no more halfwits breeding more halfwits. obesity, short & fat, congenital abnormalities, medical conditions based on hereditary such as diabetes or a family history of insanity. Any other trait considered to be unwanted. Heil Bobbi. Those are exactly the policies published in "Mein Kampf".

Hitler didn't invent those polices -
he was copying the Yanks before WW2.

The pin up boys for the socialist left Sweden were right into Eugenics way before anyone else

miketrees wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 12:29pm:

Australia should stop all immigration for a while until we set the level of population we can sustain. Our own birth rate is low so we could even lose some population from present levels. Australia should be setting the example for the rest of the world. Never mind the usual cultural cringers and self loathing virtue signallers, Australia can be the world leader.

Nice if …..

a case of woulda, shoulda, coulda, I'm afraid

We're getting no say in population and immigration.  There's an agenda and we are voiceless, despite the belief of some that Australian politicians 'listen to the people'.  Sometimes they do, most times they don't. And when it comes to population/immigration, we're ignored apart from lip service and lies around election time

as far as Australia setting an example re population growth to the rest of the world --- sure, in a fairy-story

they're coming to Oz so stand aside

and when they've been in Oz for around three generations, they might get around to limiting their offspring, mostly because by then they'll have realised that less kids means more material wealth and 'better life'


meanwhile, they're popping them out like rabbits worldwide.  The woman in Uganda is an extreme example, sure, but why didn't that couple stop when they reached say, a dozen?  Couldn't be bothered going to town to access birth control -- but she manages to find dye for her hair?  Didn't want to endure the 'unnatural' sterilisation?  Enjoyed the notoriety?  Got more money for having more and more kids?  I do not believe that woman and her spouse were not advised by any of the do-good organisations, nor do I believe non of her neighbours told the do-good orgs about her ever increasing family.  She managed to get four houses to accomodate her offspring and almost certainly those four houses were not bought or built by her or her spouse

look at her kids.  They're wretched. And 'charities' beseech us to feed them?

How about our 'authorities' and 'charitable orgs' bring her and her giant ovaries to Australia for a better life?  And what if her daughters inherited her 'giant ovaries'?  Let's fill up Australia, boys.  It's a massive piece of land with room for billions seems to be the belief of those making the decisions while living in 50 million dollar homes on Sydney Harbour

we have to sterilise or genocide.  If not now, then in the not so distant future.  Or we'll all --- worldwide -- be fighting in the streets for water and food.  And that scenario is well on the way judging by the number of SWORD attacks and deaths in of all places ... Australia

Johnnie wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

A Uganda mom pumps out 38 children! Mariam Nabatanzi takes a family portrait with some of her children at their home in Kasawo village, March 8. Mariam Nabatanzi gave birth to twins a year after she was married off at the age of 12. Five more sets of twins followed - along with four sets of triplets and five sets of quadruplets. Three years ago, however, the 39-year-old Ugandan was abandoned by her husband, leaving her to support their surviving 38 children alone. REUTERS/James Akena

And is that the sort of population policy we want in Australia?

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 10:24am:

It's sobering to learn that those with a good quality of life make up only 8% of the world's population To qualify in that 8%, a person must have access to water, food, education, medicine The percentage must shrink when you add easily accessed transportation, unlimited consumer goods, sophisticated surgery, unhindered travel and all that we enjoy in this country and UK, US, much of Europe interestingly, it is those in the top 8% and higher echelons who are concerned about overpopulation and it is those in that top handfull of privilege who have restricted their own breeding to around 2 children.  In other words, those who enjoy the best lifestyles and opportunities are diminishing their own numbers the remaining 92% continue to increase their populations, often to massive and unsustainable degree The governments of the top 8% are importing people from the 92%

sounds like crap to me.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/china-watch/society/decreasing-chinas-poverty/
The poverty rate, proportion of people living below the Chinese poverty line, had fallen among rural population from 97.5 percent in 1978 to 3.1 percent at the end of 2017

The author must of forgot about china...….

https://blog.giveindia.org/stories-of-hope/5-facts-about-poverty-in-india-that-will-surprise-you/

Forgot about India too it seams...….

just the USA is 5% of the population at 350 million, japan is 100 million , would be 100 million in northern Europe, where is link for this,
ive seen 80% being in poverty worldwide. SO yes you pointed out a problem what is your answer to fix it ?
Or is don't bring in Refugee's your answer ?

https://ophi.org.uk/multidimensional-poverty-index/global-mpi-2018/

The United Nations development Programme (UNDP) and the Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative (OPHI) developed a new version of the global Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI). The global MPI covers 105 countries in total, which are home to 77 per cent of the world’s population, or 5.7 billion people. Of this proportion, 23 per cent of people (1.3 billion) are identified as multidimensionally poor.

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 12:19pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 12:15pm: PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 12:05pm: The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 12:04pm: PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:43am: Your current lifestyle, which I'm sure you'd be unwilling to surrender was provided courtesty of northern Europeans China has been keeping Australia afloat for the past couple of decades PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:43am: When did you decide to leave Oz for the trash piles of south east asia or the mud huts of Africa?  but it's true that overpopulation will erode Western lifestyles, including yours, unless you're fortunate to die beforehand and leave the coming mess to your descendants the planet is the equivalent of a paddock into which the greedy farmer squeezes more.  People in Oz, which has an enviable lifestyle compared to most, are beginning to feel the squeeze do you see India or Africa et al coming up with a solution for your descendants?  If so, let us know No I don't have the answers, but I'm also sure that compulsory sterilization isn't one of them. It's also enlightening that the members who promote this policy are among the most bigoted on this forum so I question their motivations. What's your solution? Improving education. especially of women. Once a population gets educated, the birth rate drops. Ok.  Off you go and educate the women in the 3rd world then get started on the men in the 3rd world and let us know how you fare with the leaders of the 3rd world who might have objections to your presuming to interfere meanwhile, babies are landing at a rate of who knows how many per minute, worldwide frankly, I think you're too late with your education solution

well if its not education what is your solution..... ;)

Ajax wrote on Apr 28^th, 2019 at 10:56am:

There are many measures to reduce the population within the law. lets see here are some, Cigarettes Why doesn't the government legislate so tabaco companies have to take out all the chemicals that aren't in natural tabaco, shelf life comes to mind. Medicine, Pills & Co After 70 years of age its up to the person whether they want the medication....its law....after 70 you're pretty much on the scrap heap, if you decide no more pills then happy birthday to you. After 80 if you get hospitalized you're pretty much f@rked....lucky to get out alive, would have to be a strong old fella or gal...they asses and administer whether the patient can take it is another matter. I should add that if you're lucky to be in the 1% or associated with them or just filthy rich this doesn't apply to you. United Nations Preaching to the world that homosexuality and transgenderism is natural for humans and is part of nature Turn as much of the population as possible into gays, no babies born by these people Nothing can be further from the truth, being homosexual is going against nature.

well your view of nature anyway, there are documented cases of same sex happening with every species of Mammals and quit a few birds..... so it's not natural even if it happens in nature.

Well yes all these Fast foods and farming practices seam to be killing lots of people, is depopulating already happening.
Should we be anti Vax just on the point that without them more people will die. Should we be against homosexual encouragement.
Should we encourage agriculture using antibiotics so much they are developing germs that are immune. ;)

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 7:59am:

well your view of nature anyway, there are documented cases of same sex happening with every species of Mammals and quit a few birds..... so it's not natural even if it happens in nature.

They just don't need a piece of paper. ;)

lee wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 11:24am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 7:59am: well your view of nature anyway, there are documented cases of same sex happening with every species of Mammals and quit a few birds..... so it's not natural even if it happens in nature. They just don't need a piece of paper. ;)

yup its only humans that need a piece of paper for everything they do  ;)

Population reduction proponents should step forward and lead by example by disposing of themselves in an environmentally friendly way.

Bobbi? Where are you?

As long as humans live on this planet, it's going to be sick. We are the virus, we are the disease.

We think we are oh so intelligent and sophisticated, what with our advances in technology, and our finance system that is contrary to the health of 'nature'.

I.e what is the main thing that prevents people from going full "green"? It's the loss of jobs, and loss of money that scares people. Not to mention the fear that "green energy" is not strong enough to run all of our creature comforts.

When global warming hits, the earth will cleanse itself of this disease and start the cycle again. Whether humanity survives or not depends on whether "Noah/Noelle" can build another ark.

The Reboot wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

I.e what is the main thing that prevents people from going full "green"? It's the loss of jobs, and loss of money that scares people. Not to mention the fear that "green energy" is not strong enough to run all of our creature comforts.

Yes. So where do taxes come from if their are no jobs? if there are no jobs there are no industries.

lee wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 1:13pm:

The Reboot wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 1:04pm: I.e what is the main thing that prevents people from going full "green"? It's the loss of jobs, and loss of money that scares people. Not to mention the fear that "green energy" is not strong enough to run all of our creature comforts. Yes. So where do taxes come from if their are no jobs? if there are no jobs there are no industries.

As long as lee exists "their" will always be jobs for English teachers.

https://www.positive.news/society/5-possible-solutions-overpopulation/

1. Empower women
Studies show that women with access to reproductive health services find it easier to break out of poverty, while those who work are more likely to use birth control. The United Nations Population Fund aims to tackle both issues at once, running microcredit projects to turn young women into advocates for reproductive health.

2. Promote family planning
Simply educating men and women about contraception can have a big impact. When Iran introduced a national family planning programme in 1989, its fertility rate fell from 5.6 births per woman to 2.6 in a decade. A similar effort in Rwanda saw a threefold increase in contraception usage in just five years.

3. Make education entertaining
The US-based Population Media Center gets creative to reach women. Its radio soap operas, which feature culturally specific stories about reproductive issues, have been heard by as many as 500 million people in 50 countries. In Ethiopia, 63 per cent of women seeking reproductive health services reported tuning in.

4. Government incentives
Those at UK charity Population Matters believe there should be a senior government official responsible for addressing population-related issues. They urge governments to promote “responsible parenthood” and say subsidies should be limited to the first two children unless the family is living in poverty.

5) One-child legislation
During China’s high controversial one-child policy, fertility fell from six births per woman in the 1960s to 1.5 in 2014. However, Amnesty International reports that the policy led to coerced or forced abortions and sterilisations. It also disrupted traditional support structures for the elderly and led to a gender imbalance.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

https://www.positive.news/society/5-possible-solutions-overpopulation/ 1. Empower women Studies show that women with access to reproductive health services find it easier to break out of poverty, while those who work are more likely to use birth control. The United Nations Population Fund aims to tackle both issues at once, running microcredit projects to turn young women into advocates for reproductive health. 2. Promote family planning Simply educating men and women about contraception can have a big impact. When Iran introduced a national family planning programme in 1989, its fertility rate fell from 5.6 births per woman to 2.6 in a decade. A similar effort in Rwanda saw a threefold increase in contraception usage in just five years. 3. Make education entertaining The US-based Population Media Center gets creative to reach women. Its radio soap operas, which feature culturally specific stories about reproductive issues, have been heard by as many as 500 million people in 50 countries. In Ethiopia, 63 per cent of women seeking reproductive health services reported tuning in. 4. Government incentives Those at UK charity Population Matters believe there should be a senior government official responsible for addressing population-related issues. They urge governments to promote “responsible parenthood” and say subsidies should be limited to the first two children unless the family is living in poverty. 5) One-child legislation During China’s high controversial one-child policy, fertility fell from six births per woman in the 1960s to 1.5 in 2014. However, Amnesty International reports that the policy led to coerced or forced abortions and sterilisations. It also disrupted traditional support structures for the elderly and led to a gender imbalance.

[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

Although strangely enough the right wing loonies on this forum usually have more "interventionist" ideas on how to lower population

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

1. Empower women Studies show that women with access to reproductive health services find it easier to break out of poverty, while those who work are more likely to use birth control. The United Nations Population Fund aims to tackle both issues at once, running microcredit projects to turn young women into advocates for reproductive health.

No mention of patriarchal societies which would inhibit the empowering of women.

There is a solution though. Cheap electricity that would reduce the actual physical work done.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 11:57am:

Population reduction proponents should step forward and lead by example by disposing of themselves in an environmentally friendly way. Bobbi? Where are you?

I never had any children because I always knew there were
too many people on this planet.
If others had been smart like me we wouldn't have this problem.
There will be 1 billion more Africans by 2050.

Bobby. wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:57am: Population reduction proponents should step forward and lead by example by disposing of themselves in an environmentally friendly way. Bobbi? Where are you? I never had any children because I always knew there were too many people on this planet. If others had been smart like me we wouldn't have this problem. There will be 1 billion more Africans by 2050.

Most of them didn't intentionally produce kids.  Just a by-product of sex

PZ547 wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 3:18pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:57am: Population reduction proponents should step forward and lead by example by disposing of themselves in an environmentally friendly way. Bobbi? Where are you? I never had any children because I always knew there were too many people on this planet. If others had been smart like me we wouldn't have this problem. There will be 1 billion more Africans by 2050. Most of them didn't intentionally produce kids.  Just a by-product of sex

When you put it in a baby can pop out.
Are they so stupid in Africa that they don't know that?

Bobby. wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:57am: Population reduction proponents should step forward and lead by example by disposing of themselves in an environmentally friendly way. Bobbi? Where are you? I never had any children because I always knew there were too many people on this planet. If others had been smart like me we wouldn't have this problem. There will be 1 billion more Africans by 2050.

Bobbi, you have to have sex with a female to create the opportunity. You must have been asleep in class when they taught that.

Bobby. wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

PZ547 wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 3:21pm: Bobby. wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 3:18pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:57am: Population reduction proponents should step forward and lead by example by disposing of themselves in an environmentally friendly way. Bobbi? Where are you? I never had any children because I always knew there were too many people on this planet. If others had been smart like me we wouldn't have this problem. There will be 1 billion more Africans by 2050. Most of them didn't intentionally produce kids.  Just a by-product of sex When you put it in a baby can pop out. Are they so stupid in Africa that they don't know that?

Millions of them are too stupid right here, in Oz

On average, according to the experts, a couple will have sex a hundred times before a pregnancy

so they wing it

and kids pop out

and retailers applaud those new generations of consumers


as Kahlil Gibran said, kids are Life's Longing for Itself


we're an experiment

when human lab workers want the rats to perform, they use a chunk of cheese as bait

when the cosmic lab workers want to see how far creatures will push their limited resources and risk extinction in order to reproduce, they used sex as bait


then the cosmic lab workers closed the laboratory and took off, leaving us to the mess we created

but babbees are so kute !  Little fingers, little toes, big eyes

and all the private schools and manufacturers and retailers rub their hands


and those in south east asia who're taking in our garbage chuck it in the oceans and sea life and their babies choke and die in agony


but gee, sex a hundred times and no bill

let's try for 101 and see what happens


God must shake his head in disbelief

bonobos, bananas, bonobos, bananas

PZ547 wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1556398525/39#39 date=1557725071][quote author=ZXLX796 link=1556398525/38#38 date=1557724887] Millions of them are too stupid right here, in Oz On average, according to the experts, a couple will have sex a hundred times before a pregnancy so they wing it and kids pop out and retailers applaud those new generations of consumers as Kahlil Gibran said, kids are Life's Longing for Itself we're an experiment when human lab workers want the rats to perform, they use a chunk of cheese as bait when the cosmic lab workers want to see how far creatures will push their limited resources and risk extinction in order to reproduce, they used sex as bait then the cosmic lab workers closed the laboratory and took off, leaving us to the mess we created but babbees are so kute !  Little fingers, little toes, big eyes and all the private schools and manufacturers and retailers rub their hands and those in south east asia who're taking in our garbage chuck it in the oceans and sea life and their babies choke and die in agony but gee, sex a hundred times and no bill let's try for 101 and see what happens God must shake his head in disbelief bonobos, bananas, bonobos, bananas

Some women get pregnant after having sex only once.
Men need to stop putting it in to them.
They need to read the Bible I suppose.

Bobby. wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:57am: Population reduction proponents should step forward and lead by example by disposing of themselves in an environmentally friendly way. Bobbi? Where are you? I never had any children because I always knew there were too many people on this planet. If others had been smart like me we wouldn't have this problem. There will be 1 billion more Africans by 2050.

They are breeding like flies but we arent. Just means a bigger market for our agricultural products and technology.

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lee wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 3:15pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 7:38am: 1. Empower women Studies show that women with access to reproductive health services find it easier to break out of poverty, while those who work are more likely to use birth control. The United Nations Population Fund aims to tackle both issues at once, running microcredit projects to turn young women into advocates for reproductive health. No mention of patriarchal societies which would inhibit the empowering of women. There is a solution though. Cheap electricity that would reduce the actual physical work done.

Are there any societies that arnt patriarchal ?
I'm not sure what you mean about the electricity being a solution, are you saying with electricity work wont be as hard and women will be able to do it ? ;)

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 15^th, 2019 at 7:11am:

Are there any societies that arnt patriarchal ?

Yes.

Don't worry
Jeff Bezos has it covered

Space platforms (looking like Paris2, Switzerland2, etc.) each able to hold a trillion earth-folk

'self sustaining space environments'

'could be positioned close to earth'

'in the habitable orbital band already conducive to life'

sounds similar to the Mormon afterlife

Then we'll have lots of pretty new places to clutter up, after which we can explode them and build new ones

LOTS OF PRETTY PICTURES

lee wrote on May 15^th, 2019 at 11:53am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 7:11am: Are there any societies that arnt patriarchal ? Yes.

Amazons  ;D ;D

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 15^th, 2019 at 12:13pm:

Amazons

no. What gave you that impression?