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Title: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by Ajax on Apr 26th, 2019 at 1:49pm
The author equates this to a New Little Ice Age expected to begin around 2042
http://thelongview.com.au/sunmoonclimate.html#sunspots-over-CO2 |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by Ajax on Apr 26th, 2019 at 1:56pm |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2019 at 3:48pm
Hi Ajax - that's what I've been trying to tell people for ages.
Hardly anyone is listening. Look forward to record cold this winter. |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by The_Barnacle on Apr 26th, 2019 at 4:35pm Ajax wrote on Apr 26th, 2019 at 1:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 26th, 2019 at 3:48pm:
You do realise 2042 is still 23 years away. And that is when it is supposed to BEGIN |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by lee on Apr 26th, 2019 at 4:54pm The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 26th, 2019 at 4:35pm:
1. What are the error bars on that? 2. And we are gunna fry in the meantime. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Aren't the alarmists saying we will die in the next 12 years anyway? So it will be too late to save us? ;) |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by PZ547 on Apr 26th, 2019 at 6:12pm
Thanks, Ajax
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by Bobby. on Apr 26th, 2019 at 6:14pm The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 26th, 2019 at 4:35pm:
That is different to what I was lead to believe. It already started in 2016. |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by The_Barnacle on Apr 27th, 2019 at 10:29am Quote:
If the sun was the only driver for climate you would expect Mercury to be hotter than Venus. So why isn't it? ;D ;) |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by Ajax on Apr 27th, 2019 at 1:12pm The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 10:29am:
Dear Barny no one is denying that an atmosphere doesn’t play a vital role when it comes to heating the surface of its host planet. What I would like to once again point out to you is that our sun supplies the energy to everything it shines on and therefore all the climatic processes taking place on all the planets in our solar system are dependent on the suns energy to exist. Therefore my cheeky friend the sun drives climate no matter which world your feet are on. If the sun just happened to turn off, the climate processes on every planet in our solar system would start to wind down and turn of themselves eventually ceasing to exist. Therefore the sun drives climate and everything associated with it……………….!!! You single out Venus with an atmosphere consisting of 96.5% CO2 at an average constant temperature of 462°C. What about Mars with an atmosphere consisting of 95.32% CO2 its temperature is 20°C max -125°C min. There are too many variables that drive temperature to go through them all but one thing is certain CO2 is but one. |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by The_Barnacle on Apr 27th, 2019 at 1:26pm
My point is that Venus is hotter than Mercury despite being further from the sun.
The only reason for that is that Venus has an atmosphere (a very thick one) and Mercury has a negligible atmosphere. So clearly the atmosphere is the overwhelming driver of climate. As for the Sun, it's luminosity changes less than 0.1% over the course of the sunspot cycle. So for all intents and purposes it will have no impact on changing a climate |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by Ajax on Apr 27th, 2019 at 1:30pm The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 1:26pm:
Without the sun there would be no climate.......!!!! And there's not much difference between the maximum average Mercury and Venus surface temperatures but I do agree the atmosphere of Venus is what makes it so uniformly hot. |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by lee on Apr 27th, 2019 at 1:49pm The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 1:26pm:
Atmospheric pressure affects temperature? Who knew? |
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Title: Re: New little ice age - Sunspot activity Post by Ajax on Apr 28th, 2019 at 9:35am Sun et al 2017 Nurtaev & Nurtaev 2017 Yndestad & Solheim 2017 Ludecke & Weiss 2017 Zharkova et al 2017 Stozhkov et al 2017 Page 2017 Torres & Guzman 2016 Sanchez-Sesma 2016 Evans 2016 Abdussamatov 2015 Morner 2015 Ludecke et al 2015 https://notrickszone.com/2017/12/28/7-new-2017-papers-forecast-global-cooling-another-little-ice-age-will-begin-soon/ |
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