I guess this is the so called moderate islam the Saudis chop your head off  Iran hangs blasphemers.


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Indonesian Buddhist woman's blasphemy conviction upheld - Indonesia's Supreme Court has upheld an 18-month jail sentence for a 44-year-old Buddhist woman convicted last year on blasphemy charges. Meiliana's conviction last August stemmed from a complaint filed after she was accused of making remarks against mosque loudspeakers in the city of Tanjung Balai in North Sumatra nearly three years ago. Her lawyer Ranto Sibarani said that his client was a "victim of a hoax," denying she made those remarks. "There is no evidence that she committed blasphemy. This hoax spread in the course of a week and ruined a woman's life in the process," Sibarani told Al Jazeera. "Today's decision is very dangerous because in the future it means that people can spread false information which will lead to wrongful convictions under the blasphemy law." More here- https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/indonesian-buddhist-woman-blasphemy-conviction-upheld-190408100321754.html

We should cut foreign aid to Indonesia why do we give them $300 million a year?

The concept of blasphemy is itself indecent and an affront to any intelligent person. That Muzlums still persecute and prosecute people under such laws, should be a wake-up call to our Progressive Leftists who defend them.

You give $300 million a year to Indonesia because Australia is a weak Gay nation.

The Indonesians are still very primitive and rely on gods.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 10:42pm:

I guess this is the so called moderate islam the Saudis chop your head off  Iran hangs blasphemers. Quote: Indonesian Buddhist woman's blasphemy conviction upheld - Indonesia's Supreme Court has upheld an 18-month jail sentence for a 44-year-old Buddhist woman convicted last year on blasphemy charges. Meiliana's conviction last August stemmed from a complaint filed after she was accused of making remarks against mosque loudspeakers in the city of Tanjung Balai in North Sumatra nearly three years ago. Her lawyer Ranto Sibarani said that his client was a "victim of a hoax," denying she made those remarks. "There is no evidence that she committed blasphemy. This hoax spread in the course of a week and ruined a woman's life in the process," Sibarani told Al Jazeera. "Today's decision is very dangerous because in the future it means that people can spread false information which will lead to wrongful convictions under the blasphemy law." More here- https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/indonesian-buddhist-woman-blasphemy-conviction-upheld-190408100321754.html We should cut foreign aid to Indonesia why do we give them $300 million a year?

According to Gandalf, Indonesia is the "exemplar" Muslim majority nation and a healthy free market of ideas on the interpretation of Islam.

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 7:04am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 10:42pm: I guess this is the so called moderate islam the Saudis chop your head off  Iran hangs blasphemers. Quote: Indonesian Buddhist woman's blasphemy conviction upheld - Indonesia's Supreme Court has upheld an 18-month jail sentence for a 44-year-old Buddhist woman convicted last year on blasphemy charges. Meiliana's conviction last August stemmed from a complaint filed after she was accused of making remarks against mosque loudspeakers in the city of Tanjung Balai in North Sumatra nearly three years ago. Her lawyer Ranto Sibarani said that his client was a "victim of a hoax," denying she made those remarks. "There is no evidence that she committed blasphemy. This hoax spread in the course of a week and ruined a woman's life in the process," Sibarani told Al Jazeera. "Today's decision is very dangerous because in the future it means that people can spread false information which will lead to wrongful convictions under the blasphemy law." More here- https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/indonesian-buddhist-woman-blasphemy-conviction-upheld-190408100321754.html We should cut foreign aid to Indonesia why do we give them $300 million a year? According to Gandalf,       Indonesia is the "exemplar" Muslim majority nation and a healthy free market of ideas on the interpretation of Islam.

That is correct.

And i am not aware that gandalf has recanted, on that assertion yet.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1552398731/4#4



But we must allow, that gandalf also practices a peaceful form of ISLAM, which is tolerant, and progressive.

Seriously.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1418703040/1#1




But the BIG question for me, is,         are the precepts of gandalf's peaceful form of ISLAM,
formulated upon the sunnah of Mohammed, and from the writings in the inerrant Koran ???

I guess there are some questions which will always remain unanswered.

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 7:04am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 10:42pm: I guess this is the so called moderate islam the Saudis chop your head off  Iran hangs blasphemers. Quote: Indonesian Buddhist woman's blasphemy conviction upheld - Indonesia's Supreme Court has upheld an 18-month jail sentence for a 44-year-old Buddhist woman convicted last year on blasphemy charges. Meiliana's conviction last August stemmed from a complaint filed after she was accused of making remarks against mosque loudspeakers in the city of Tanjung Balai in North Sumatra nearly three years ago. Her lawyer Ranto Sibarani said that his client was a "victim of a hoax," denying she made those remarks. "There is no evidence that she committed blasphemy. This hoax spread in the course of a week and ruined a woman's life in the process," Sibarani told Al Jazeera. "Today's decision is very dangerous because in the future it means that people can spread false information which will lead to wrongful convictions under the blasphemy law." More here- https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/indonesian-buddhist-woman-blasphemy-conviction-upheld-190408100321754.html We should cut foreign aid to Indonesia why do we give them $300 million a year? According to Gandalf, Indonesia is the "exemplar" Muslim majority nation and a healthy free market of ideas on the interpretation of Islam.

There should be no such thing  as religious crime.

It's the thought police at work.

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 7:04am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 10:42pm: I guess this is the so called moderate islam the Saudis chop your head off  Iran hangs blasphemers. Quote: Indonesian Buddhist woman's blasphemy conviction upheld - Indonesia's Supreme Court has upheld an 18-month jail sentence for a 44-year-old Buddhist woman convicted last year on blasphemy charges. Meiliana's conviction last August stemmed from a complaint filed after she was accused of making remarks against mosque loudspeakers in the city of Tanjung Balai in North Sumatra nearly three years ago. Her lawyer Ranto Sibarani said that his client was a "victim of a hoax," denying she made those remarks. "There is no evidence that she committed blasphemy. This hoax spread in the course of a week and ruined a woman's life in the process," Sibarani told Al Jazeera. "Today's decision is very dangerous because in the future it means that people can spread false information which will lead to wrongful convictions under the blasphemy law." More here- https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/indonesian-buddhist-woman-blasphemy-conviction-upheld-190408100321754.html We should cut foreign aid to Indonesia why do we give them $300 million a year? According to Gandalf, Indonesia is the "exemplar" Muslim majority nation and a healthy free market of ideas on the interpretation of Islam.

G merely quoted your Pew Survey, FD. You know, what Muslims themselves think.

You?

Don't answer that.

18 months jail for saying turn it down!!

Oh Islam!

And every year, they let more of them in.

issuevoter wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 8:00am:

And every year, they let more of them in.

We just have to accept our fate

We're stuck out in the ocean, surrounded by people of radically different beliefs

Geographically, Australia is huge.  Dum dums overseas think that translates to big population good

We could be overtaken in half an hour and everyone knows it

no one able to assist

Our future has been written.  We make like grass in the parable -- either bend with the wind to survive, or resist and be destroyed

PZ547 wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 8:44am:

issuevoter wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 8:00am: And every year, they let more of them in. We just have to accept our fate We're stuck out in the ocean, surrounded by people of radically different beliefs Geographically, Australia is huge.  Dum dums overseas think that translates to big population good We could be overtaken in half an hour and everyone knows it no one able to assist Our future has been written.  We make like grass in the parable -- either bend with the wind to survive, or resist and be destroyed

I can't think of anything more relevant to Indonesia's blasphemy laws, PZ.

Carpetbomb them.

Karnal's carpet bombing is facetious. It is a Muzlum and continually attempts to muddy the waters with similar statements.

An objective place to start on the subject, might be to stopped feeding the Australian public the falsehood that Indonesia is our friend.

issuevoter wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 12:13pm:

Karnal's carpet bombing is facetious. It is a Muzlum and continually attempts to muddy the waters with similar statements. An objective place to start on the subject, might be to stopped feeding the Australian public the falsehood that Indonesia is our friend.

Exactly. Instruct the public that Indonesians are the enemy.

Objective, no?

Karnal wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 9:11pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 7:04am: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 10:42pm: I guess this is the so called moderate islam the Saudis chop your head off  Iran hangs blasphemers. Quote: Indonesian Buddhist woman's blasphemy conviction upheld - Indonesia's Supreme Court has upheld an 18-month jail sentence for a 44-year-old Buddhist woman convicted last year on blasphemy charges. Meiliana's conviction last August stemmed from a complaint filed after she was accused of making remarks against mosque loudspeakers in the city of Tanjung Balai in North Sumatra nearly three years ago. Her lawyer Ranto Sibarani said that his client was a "victim of a hoax," denying she made those remarks. "There is no evidence that she committed blasphemy. This hoax spread in the course of a week and ruined a woman's life in the process," Sibarani told Al Jazeera. "Today's decision is very dangerous because in the future it means that people can spread false information which will lead to wrongful convictions under the blasphemy law." More here- https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/indonesian-buddhist-woman-blasphemy-conviction-upheld-190408100321754.html We should cut foreign aid to Indonesia why do we give them $300 million a year? According to Gandalf, Indonesia is the "exemplar" Muslim majority nation and a healthy free market of ideas on the interpretation of Islam. G merely quoted your Pew Survey, FD. You know, what Muslims themselves think. You? Don't answer that.

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As I foretold, via the Religion of Sahul  :D

That when the Great War (III) begins, Indonesia will be attacked by a concerted effort of Phillipines, Fed of Micronesia, Bali, PNG, Solomon Islands, New Caledonia, Vanuatu, Timor and the Indigenous People's of Indonesia(Some of whom look like Maori). They will be conquered on the walls of Malaysia - as all of Moslem Indonesia falls.

Jasin wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

As I foretold, via the Religion of Sahul  :D That when the Great War (III) begins, Indonesia will be attacked by a concerted effort of Phillipines, Fed of Micronesia, Bali, PNG, Solomon Islands, New Caledonia, Vanuatu, Timor and the Indigenous People's of Indonesia(Some of whom look like Maori). They will be conquered on the walls of Malaysia - as all of Moslem Indonesia falls.

JaSin bot,

IMO, the content of many of your posts are still failing the Turing Test.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

Yadda wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 6:49pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 6:40pm: As I foretold, via the Religion of Sahul  :D That when the Great War (III) begins, Indonesia will be attacked by a concerted effort of Phillipines, Fed of Micronesia, Bali, PNG, Solomon Islands, New Caledonia, Vanuatu, Timor and the Indigenous People's of Indonesia(Some of whom look like Maori). They will be conquered on the walls of Malaysia - as all of Moslem Indonesia falls. JaSin bot, IMO, the content of many of your posts are still failing the Turing Test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

YOU STICK TO YOUR RELIGION OF THE PAST AND I'LL KEEP TO MY RELIGION OF THE FUTURE. ;)

freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 6:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 9:11pm: freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2019 at 7:04am: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 10:42pm: I guess this is the so called moderate islam the Saudis chop your head off  Iran hangs blasphemers. Quote: Indonesian Buddhist woman's blasphemy conviction upheld - Indonesia's Supreme Court has upheld an 18-month jail sentence for a 44-year-old Buddhist woman convicted last year on blasphemy charges. Meiliana's conviction last August stemmed from a complaint filed after she was accused of making remarks against mosque loudspeakers in the city of Tanjung Balai in North Sumatra nearly three years ago. Her lawyer Ranto Sibarani said that his client was a "victim of a hoax," denying she made those remarks. "There is no evidence that she committed blasphemy. This hoax spread in the course of a week and ruined a woman's life in the process," Sibarani told Al Jazeera. "Today's decision is very dangerous because in the future it means that people can spread false information which will lead to wrongful convictions under the blasphemy law." More here- https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/indonesian-buddhist-woman-blasphemy-conviction-upheld-190408100321754.html We should cut foreign aid to Indonesia why do we give them $300 million a year? According to Gandalf, Indonesia is the "exemplar" Muslim majority nation and a healthy free market of ideas on the interpretation of Islam. G merely quoted your Pew Survey, FD. You know, what Muslims themselves think. You? Don't answer that.

So a minority of Muslims support stoning for adultery, eh?

Cunning.

How about your you-know-whos?

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So a minority of Muslims support stoning for adultery, eh?

In Indonesia they are a minority. Are you going to chalk that one up to a win for the turd polishers?

freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 9:57pm:

Quote: So a minority of Muslims support stoning for adultery, eh? In Indonesia they are a minority. Are you going to chalk that one up to a win for the turd polishers?

Sorry? I didn't hear you ask nicely, dear.

No worries. Would you like to like to answer a question?

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