42,000 PEOPLE'S PENALTY RATES SAVED - NOW TO RESTORE AND PROTECT ALL OF THEM

   
United Voice Union
Thursday 04 April, 2019

Now the fight continues42,000 bartenders, chefs and waitstaff in clubs all over Australia have fought hard, joined their union and made their voice heard … and have just had their penalty rates saved!

Greedy bosses group Clubs Australia, backed by Scott Morrison and his big business mates, was aggressively campaigning for a cut in Saturday, Sunday and public holiday penalty rates for workers in RSLs, bowlos and golf clubs.   :(

Long story short – after several years of campaigning and legal hearings the Fair Work Commission totally threw out their arguments … and the 42,000 people’s penalty rates are saved!
WHAT’S NEXT?

While this win is awesome, more needs to be done.

Jo-anne Schofield, National Secretary of the hospitality union United Voice, said “we are under no illusions that this Government and bosses will be on the attack again.

“The reality is - with the LNP in power, no one’s penalty rates are safe. My question to Scott Morrison is - whose penalty rates are under the spotlight next?”

“We have launched a massive campaign to restore and protect penalty rates for the millions of Australians who rely on them.   :)

“We will be out there talking to voters in target seats every day from now until the election about the Morrison Government’s atrocious record on penalty rates. Scott Morrison has voted eight times already to cut penalty rates, he can’t be trusted.

“Only Labor will restore and protect penalty rates. Our ads and our campaign will be reminding people that a vote for Labor is a vote for the millions of Australians who rely on penalty rates.

“Voters have a clear choice at the upcoming Federal election – a vote for more cuts under the Coalition, or a vote for Labor to restore and protect penalty rates.”

Congratulations to all the clubs workers across the country.

And to everyone – now’s the time to get involved, join your union and be part of restoring and protecting penalty rates for you and your family.

Together, we will save our weekend.   :)

the workplace has changed from when penalty rates were first started and they were mainly for guys who had worked all week and should be compensated for working a weekend.
now a lot of students and women wanting to pick up a bit of cash might actually prefer to work weekends whilst they dont have study commitments and hubby is home to look after the kids.

for a housewife with a toddler  or student, it would be more difficult to work monday from 9 to 5 .
so they would like penalty rates for working during the week!!!!.

denying them cash because of some old fashioned nonsense seems unfair  :'( :'(

People that work weekends and public holidays, should get paid the penalty rates.  A Shorten labor government will restore, and protect the penalty rates.  Within the first 100 days.   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] 

yeah, unionists and shorten and whiteknight are all men in their 50's and THEY want to hit the pub or the TAB on the weekend so they think they are missing out on this glorious pursuit  ::) ::) ::).

but how selfish to not consider those students and women with kiddies who would LOVE to work weekends.
how evil to assume everyone is a retard like the scrubs in the union movement  :'( :'( :'(

Greedy bosses group Clubs Australia, backed by Scott Morrison and his big business mates, was aggressively campaigning for a cut in Saturday, Sunday and public holiday penalty rates for workers in RSLs, bowlos and golf clubs.   :(

clubs australia were , from a spirit of contribution, trying to provide jobs for students and housewives who want to make a bit of cash . what noble employers.
how selfish of the overpaid CFMEU stooges to not allow these people to prosper :'( :'( :'(

Its a try on to get cheap labour.  Stop always trying to cut low income workers penalty rates, and wages.   >:( 

whiteknight wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 7:26am:

Its a try on to get cheap labour.  Stop always trying to cut low income workers penalty rates, and wages.   >:(

poor students trying to make a bit of cash so they can eat something better then noodles.
clubs happy to give them cash for working the weekend
and the angry union movement stopping this from happening
how disgusting  >:( >:(

I thought giving workers cash in hand payments was illegal.   :(

How convenient!  An election looming and the 'independent' body appointed by the LNP suddenly does a back-flip jelly-fish and lands on top of the bosses demanding penalty rates cuts.

Who'd ever 've thunk it?

aquascoot wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 7:10am:

yeah, unionists and shorten and whiteknight are all men in their 50's and THEY want to hit the pub or the TAB on the weekend so they think they are missing out on this glorious pursuit  ::) ::) ::). but how selfish to not consider those students and women with kiddies who would LOVE to work weekends. how evil to assume everyone is a retard like the scrubs in the union movement  :'( :'( :'(

Whoa, Neddy!  All of your comments on this issue are way out of line..... in every way not least that the CFFMEU has nothing to do with clubs....  you're becoming fixated .. get a hold of yourself man, people are watching...

aquascoot wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 6:48am:

now a lot of students and women wanting to pick up a bit of cash might actually prefer to work weekends whilst they dont have study commitments and hubby is home to look after the kids.

Own goal.

Hubby and the kids are at home, while the wife is working.

That's a perfect example of why penalty rates are in place: it's compensation for people who are missing out on quality time with their families.

whiteknight wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 7:33am:

I thought giving workers cash in hand payments was illegal.   :(

It is.

However, aquascoot has proven himself to have no regard for the law.

He supports employers who underpay their staff, and now he's supporting illegal cash-in-hand payments.

Is he breaking the law every day in his own business pursuits?

I'm curious.

So, just how much extra money is that for those who got their reduction in penalty rates restored?

Does it compare to the 850,000 retirees who will lose on average $5,000 per year under Shorty's F/C tax grab?  :D

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 9:44am:

So, just how much extra money is that for those who got their reduction in penalty rates restored? Does it compare to the 850,000 retirees who will lose on average $5,000 per year under Shorty's F/C tax grab?  :D

Yes.

The Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU) has said that nearly half a million people are losing up to $6,000 a year.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 9:58am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 9:44am: So, just how much extra money is that for those who got their reduction in penalty rates restored? Does it compare to the 850,000 retirees who will lose on average $5,000 per year under Shorty's F/C tax grab?  :D Yes. The Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU) has said that nearly half a million people are losing up to $6,000 a year.

Well that's just utter bulldust.  ;D

We're talking about the restoration of a percentage of lost penalty rates.

Try again.  ;)

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 9:58am: Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 9:44am: So, just how much extra money is that for those who got their reduction in penalty rates restored? Does it compare to the 850,000 retirees who will lose on average $5,000 per year under Shorty's F/C tax grab?  :D Yes. The Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU) has said that nearly half a million people are losing up to $6,000 a year. Well that's just utter bulldust.  ;D We're talking about the restoration of a percentage of lost penalty rates. Try again.  ;)

No, it's not bulldust.

Many workers who work every weekend and some late nights have lost thousands of dollars.

I know of people who have lost $150 per week as a result of the cut in penalty rates.

Multiply that by 48 weeks, and that's a cut to their annual salary of $7,200.


https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ly0AAMXQ83xSFY9s/s-l300.jpg

For low-classification employees working 5.5 hours per Sunday, annual earnings losses due to changes in penalty rates range from around $750 to $1600 in hospitality
and from $900 to $2800 in the retail industry, depending on the award and the assumed elasticity.

For high classification employees working 5.5 hours per Sunday, lost earnings due to penalty rates
changes range from $900 to $1600 in hospitality, from $1100 to $3400 in retail trade, and from $1400 to $4600 in pharmacies.

Any Sunday workers also working public holidays
would experience further annual reductions, due to changes in public holiday penalty rates.

https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=35518764-8777-4a20-b8a3-055388114151&subId=514913

Oh, and Lest we forget ...

Who* was behind setting up the Fair Work Commission?


* For those playing at home ...

A hint:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9924236-3x2-700x467.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1aMXog1.jpg

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 10:44am:

Oh, and Lest we forget ... Who* was behind setting up the Fair Work Commission?

The Rudd Government.

Why do you ask?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:44am: Oh, and Lest we forget ... Who* was behind setting up the Fair Work Commission? The Rudd Government. Why do you ask?

Who was Minister for Workplace Relations?
;)

Another hint:

https://i.imgur.com/fob43M8.jpg

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 10:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:50am: Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:44am: Oh, and Lest we forget ... Who* was behind setting up the Fair Work Commission? The Rudd Government. Why do you ask? Who was Minister for Workplace Relations? ;) Another hint:

Bill Shorten, but I'm struggling to see what your point is here.

You'll have to spell it out for me, please.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:54am: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:50am: Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:44am: Oh, and Lest we forget ... Who* was behind setting up the Fair Work Commission? The Rudd Government. Why do you ask? Who was Minister for Workplace Relations? ;) Another hint: Bill Shorten, but I'm struggling to see what your point is here. You'll have to spell it out for me, please.

Bill "set up" the Fair Work Commission to make decisions about such things as Penalty rates.

When "his" commission made a ruling on them, he suddenly doesn't like the independent Commission anymore.  :D

What a Dill Bill is!  ::)

Mind you ... don't worry ... Bill and Chris have it sorted!

https://i.imgur.com/q9BXB5I.jpg

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 11:09am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 11:00am: Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:54am: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:50am: Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 10:44am: Oh, and Lest we forget ... Who* was behind setting up the Fair Work Commission? The Rudd Government. Why do you ask? Who was Minister for Workplace Relations? ;) Another hint: Bill Shorten, but I'm struggling to see what your point is here. You'll have to spell it out for me, please. Bill "set up" the Fair Work Commission to make decisions about such things as Penalty rates.

Yes, that's what government ministers do.

They don't make the actual decisions, though.

Should an independent body be allowed to make the decision?

Who is running Bill?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXl-GgRVAAAqtPI.jpg

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 11:15am:

Should an independent body be allowed to make the decision?

The Australian Industrial Relations Commission, the Workplace Authority and the Australian Fair Pay Commission were doing it for years.


Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 11:15am:

Who is running Bill?

The Unions.

Or big business depending on the situation.  >:(

http://www.afr.com/content/dam/images/g/h/r/h/m/q/image.imgtype.galleryLandscape.620x414.png/1434618968379.jpg

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2015/06/19/1227406/432757-71925c64-1661-11e5-b043-03fbbcadf4e0.jpg

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2015/06/21/1227408/809458-0b9c99f6-17f6-11e5-bf44-53b6e473bdc1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OGpCf1e.jpg

Yeah, Shifty as is Shorty.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DczfdZSVwAAt8SX.jpg

aquascoot wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 7:10am:

yeah, unionists and shorten and whiteknight are all men in their 50's and THEY want to hit the pub or the TAB on the weekend so they think they are missing out on this glorious pursuit  ::) ::) ::). but how selfish to not consider those students and women with kiddies who would LOVE to work weekends. how evil to assume everyone is a retard like the scrubs in the union movement  :'( :'( :'(

Nobody loves to work week ends and those Woman and Students also benefit from being paid correctly. Your argument is fallacious mean and nasty. No people do not want to work for less pay, none of them.

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 10:44am:

Oh, and Lest we forget ... Who* was behind setting up the Fair Work Commission?

Julia Gillard.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 8:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:10am: yeah, unionists and shorten and whiteknight are all men in their 50's and THEY want to hit the pub or the TAB on the weekend so they think they are missing out on this glorious pursuit  ::) ::) ::). but how selfish to not consider those students and women with kiddies who would LOVE to work weekends. how evil to assume everyone is a retard like the scrubs in the union movement  :'( :'( :'( Nobody loves to work week ends and those Woman and Students also benefit from being paid correctly. Your argument is fallacious mean and nasty. No people do not want to work for less pay, none of them.

Nobody loves to work
Nobody loves to work
Nobody loves to work

thats SOOOOO SAD.

most people i CHOOSE to vibe with love to work.

dude, you are going to spend a lot of your life at work.
why on earth would ANYONE be INSANE enough to allow their EMOTIONAL STATE to become one of NEGATIVITY to work.
your emotional state rewires your brain neural pathways.
if you are INSANE enough to resent going to work you are addicting yourself on a negative neurology.

now you are going to kick the dog
now you are going to be irritated by the kids playing a bit to loudly
now you will be pissed off by your neighbours having a party
now you will hate a successful rich happy person
now you will be that grumpy old man.


dude, you and anyone who thinks like that need emergency help
its a critical situation
its a "save the dying patient " situation.
its a dial 000 situation

aquascoot wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 6:13am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 8:28pm: aquascoot wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:10am: yeah, unionists and shorten and whiteknight are all men in their 50's and THEY want to hit the pub or the TAB on the weekend so they think they are missing out on this glorious pursuit  ::) ::) ::). but how selfish to not consider those students and women with kiddies who would LOVE to work weekends. how evil to assume everyone is a retard like the scrubs in the union movement  :'( :'( :'( Nobody loves to work week ends and those Woman and Students also benefit from being paid correctly. Your argument is fallacious mean and nasty. No people do not want to work for less pay, none of them. Nobody loves to work Nobody loves to work Nobody loves to work thats SOOOOO SAD. most people i CHOOSE to vibe with love to work. dude, you are going to spend a lot of your life at work. why on earth would ANYONE be INSANE enough to allow their EMOTIONAL STATE to become one of NEGATIVITY to work. your emotional state rewires your brain neural pathways. if you are INSANE enough to resent going to work you are addicting yourself on a negative neurology. now you are going to kick the dog now you are going to be irritated by the kids playing a bit to loudly now you will be pissed off by your neighbours having a party now you will hate a successful rich happy person now you will be that grumpy old man. dude, you and anyone who thinks like that need emergency help its a critical situation its a "save the dying patient " situation. its a dial 000 situation

Given the choice between being at work (even at a job you absolutely love) or being with family and friends (at a party, BBQ, wedding, family gathering, sports function, sitting on the couch watching Netflix together, having sex, whatever), normal people would choose the latter.

Working weekends and late nights (in many cases) prevents one from being with their family and friends while they are doing the things I mentioned above.

That's why they are paid penalty rates.