Stating the obvious could be viewed as being "negative" dialogue. Opportunities to say something constructive and more informative are lost, and stating the obvious often means policies are not thoroughly thought out and the pressure of an interview brings out clichés and statements that seem more than obvious to the audience, they're not only a waste of oxygen, they can also be vote losers

It's an easy way out when the interviewee is suffering brain fade and can't sustain intelligent dialogue.

Partisanship of course knows no "negatives", only "positives" from their particular group's dynamics, but for neutral spectators observing from the sidelines, watching people state the obvious is hilarious and only lowers the status of interviewee

I'll start the list ... I'll add to it as I hear them, or add some from the recent past as I find them


Andrew Constance (NSW Lib) - "Ferries are ferries, they are for ferrying people across the harbour"

Bill Shorten (Fed Labor) - "Cancer makes you sick"

Sounds like 'pearls of wisdom' boofhead would come out with........ ;D

Chris Bowen (Fed Labor) - "Many people suffering cancer have had to reduce their hours of work, or give up work entirely"

Damian Beaufils (Border Force, not a politician) - "Drugs are basically a poison and people are buying the stuff and using it"

Muslims are wankers.

Donald Trump lies.

5 days ago - Peanut Man was here.
But now he's gone.
(public toilet door back in the 70's of Mt Druitt)

Charlie Bezzina (former Vic detective) - "It's gotta stop" - (re: black African gangs stealing mobile phones)

Adam Whyte (Commander New South Wales Police) "It's unacceptable behavior" (re: black Africans attempting to steal mobile phones at a Casula store)

Barbara Crowe (Education Department director)

"This was not acceptable and would have been an unpleasant experience for [the boy]"


(re: Jewish boy, taunted by group of muslim boys, told to kiss muslim boy's shoes, or else)

Ok Bias. i think we can see ideologically where you are heading with this.

It has always struck me as slightly ridiculous when Police chief commissioners or police ministers lecture the public on taking more care while driving.


Quote:

A devastating four days with nine deaths on Victoria's roads is unacceptable, the state's police minister says. Police Minister Kim Wells has joined Victoria Police to call on drivers to slow down and obey the road rules. "Police are doing all we can to drive down the toll but we need the community's help," he said on Tuesday. "Too many drivers are taking their lives in their hands by ignoring the risks and doing the wrong thing on the roads." https://www.9news.com.au/national/vic-road-toll-unacceptable-kim-wells/79f0e1f1-2f40-4f1d-8499-a27f564d7ac3

Do theses lectures actually achieve anything?
I don't think I've ever heard a teenager say "The police minister said we better drive more carefully, so slow down a bit"
Or is it just the old case in politics of being seen to be doing something

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 6^th, 2019 at 11:01am:

Ok Bias. i think we can see ideologically where you are heading with this.

It's not about ideology, it's about improving our thought processes. When we state the obvious, our thought process has come to a halt and is taken over by the first cliche that comes to mind, to alleviate hesitation in the dialogue or conversation. Hesitation is a sign of lacking knowledge, and instead of hesitating, the participant usually spurts out a cliche, and it's nearly always something we are only too aware of

Here's one that women say a lot without thinking about what they're saying - "Australia is a  wealthy nation". This is not necessarily stating the obvious but I've heard many women on TV extol it and I doubt if they even know what they are talking about.

To makes things worse, stating the obvious and cliches are thrown in our faces without reasons for, or solutions backing them up. They're off the cuff, and we're expected to consider such comments to be intelligent dialogue

It's a common dialogue now in front of camera's because of the fear of retaliation in the form of Law Suits, disciplinary action, etc.

Just take a look at Sportsmen and what they say in interviews: its all the same. But when they think 'the Public via the Media' are not listening. They cut loose with all sorts of sledging.

Even Princess Diana was a potty mouth, when she thought no 'media' were listening in.

So 'on camera'. Everyone just states the obvious.
It's safer that way and I would too.

https://www.just-one-liners.com/category/colemanballs/

Jasin wrote on Oct 7^th, 2019 at 9:17am:

So 'on camera'. Everyone just states the obvious. It's safer that way and I would too.

The more intelligent people in the community hardly ever state the obvious, if at all. They know better because making statements about issues that the populace is already aware of injects nothing new into the conversation

When a high ranking police officer or an Education official states the obvious just to be "safe" before the camera, you know they're only thinking of themselves and not being fair dinkum about critical issues facing the community

Here's a good one from the past - I once wrote to the NSW Transport Minister about Greenslips premiums being exorbitant, at the time when "gold plating" was being applied to compulsory third party insurance, getting ready for privatization of Greenslips. The Minister wrote back and in his own stupid words said: "People are killed on the roads" - How obvious was that?, what a drongo

The most ridiculous one I've heard though, was Bill Shorten's "Cancer makes you sick" - That one made him very unsafe before the camera, and he didn't say it just once, he said it numerous times, supposedly trying to convince us that cancer really does make you sick

Frank wrote on Oct 7^th, 2019 at 9:37am:

https://www.just-one-liners.com/category/colemanballs/

They're bloopers Frank

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 9:17am: So 'on camera'. Everyone just states the obvious. It's safer that way and I would too. The more intelligent people in the community hardly ever state the obvious, if at all. They know better because making statements about issues that the populace is already aware of injects nothing new into the conversation

That depends on the context.
Most sports people and politicians are on the defensive when they are interrogated by the media. They play a "straight bat" because they know that the media will latch onto anything that deviates from the scripted clichés.

Rather than being a sign of unintelligence, it is tactic in dealing with the media.
Most politicians, sports people and other people in the media spot light are trained this way in dealing with the media.

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 7^th, 2019 at 3:27pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 2:11pm: Jasin wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 9:17am: So 'on camera'. Everyone just states the obvious. It's safer that way and I would too. The more intelligent people in the community hardly ever state the obvious, if at all. They know better because making statements about issues that the populace is already aware of injects nothing new into the conversation That depends on the context. Most sports people and politicians are on the defensive when they are interrogated by the media. They play a "straight bat" because they know that the media will latch onto anything that deviates from the scripted clichés. Rather than being a sign of unintelligence, it is tactic in dealing with the media. Most politicians, sports people and other people in the media spot light are trained this way in dealing with the media.

You mean like totally timid Ricky Stuart last night before the camera?

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2019 at 4:15pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 3:27pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 2:11pm: Jasin wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 9:17am: So 'on camera'. Everyone just states the obvious. It's safer that way and I would too. The more intelligent people in the community hardly ever state the obvious, if at all. They know better because making statements about issues that the populace is already aware of injects nothing new into the conversation That depends on the context. Most sports people and politicians are on the defensive when they are interrogated by the media. They play a "straight bat" because they know that the media will latch onto anything that deviates from the scripted clichés. Rather than being a sign of unintelligence, it is tactic in dealing with the media. Most politicians, sports people and other people in the media spot light are trained this way in dealing with the media. You mean like totally timid Ricky Stuart last night before the camera?

Barnacle is right.
But not 'everyone' is like that. Stuart has 'used' the Media to lash out at others. Like Mundine & Fenech do.

I don't think 'all of Australia' trusts the Media.
I certainly don't.
Media hiring 'thugs n sluts' lately to boost their ranks here in Australia. A sleazy tactic for fast money shows.
Media just pumping Anti-Trump/Internet panels and Interview Shows.

I don't 'hate' the Media.
But I do know that they too are at fault, because the World turns again and they feel left behind.

Jasin wrote on Oct 7^th, 2019 at 6:36pm:

Barnacle is right.

Barnacle might be right about what he said but it's only dancing to the tune of the media - are we all fraidie cats?


Here's another fraidie cat too scared to make a comment on the adverse psychology of violent teenagers, a comment that could have had the effect of helping the community to determine practical ways for parents to advise teenagers to watch their step. The opportunity was lost, instead this fraidie cat decided to make a robotic statement that no one learns from - we already flippin well know it


Chief Inspector Brian Pedersen - "For this to happen to any member of the Public is totally outrageous"

(Re: Paramedic on charity bike rider bashed by teenagers)

The same fraidie cat again .....

Chief Inspector Brian Pedersen said: "It was a disgraceful attack"

You don't say Inspector, what else would it be?

(Re: Charity bike rider bashed by teenagers)

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 8^th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 6:36pm: Barnacle is right. Barnacle might be right about what he said but it's only dancing to the tune of the media - are we all fraidie cats? Here's another fraidie cat too scared to make a comment on the adverse psychology of violent teenagers, a comment that could have had the effect of helping the community to determine practical ways for parents to advise teenagers to watch their step. The opportunity was lost, instead this fraidie cat decided to make a robotic statement that no one learns from - we already flippin well know it Chief Inspector Brian Pedersen - "For this to happen to any member of the Public is totally outrageous" (Re: Paramedic on charity bike ride bashed by teenagers)

I understand what you're saying.
But maybe that young girl speaking out about Climate Doom with all the pent up anger of 'truth' and youth in general - and all the 'backlash' she has received by those people who laugh at her 'stupidity'... is why many people 'Fake it' on the (Fake) Media.

Look at Trump. He calls a Spade a Spade and tells it as it is, tweets to the Public directly/honestly and yet no-one else in the world receives more hatred and condemnation than him for doing it.

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 8^th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 7th, 2019 at 6:36pm: Barnacle is right. Barnacle might be right about what he said but it's only dancing to the tune of the media - are we all fraidie cats? Here's another fraidie cat too scared to make a comment on the adverse psychology of violent teenagers,  The opportunity was lost, instead this fraidie cat decided to make a robotic statement that no one learns from - we already flippin well know it Chief Inspector Brian Pedersen - "For this to happen to any member of the Public is totally outrageous" (Re: Paramedic on charity bike ride bashed by teenagers)

Also lets not over estimate the intelligence and attention span of the general public
For most people a quick sound bite of a politician/police chief saying "this is outrageous" is all they want to hear.

whereas a comment that could have had the effect of helping the community to determine practical ways for parents to advise teenagers to watch their step........that's the subject of an hour long documentary. Most people's eyes would just glaze over.

Would it be better if everyone was not afraid and just sledged on TV?
Take the 'Aust' Cricketers for example: Nice to your face (& Camera),  but the most verbally/mentally abusive on field and against opponents.

Gone were the days that Australian Cricketers were part of an International scene that were all 'mates', regardless of who wins and who loses.

Penny Wong (Labor leader in the Federal Senate)

"Turkey"s action against the Kurds risks de-stabilizing the region"

(Re: Turkey"s military action in northern Syria)

Scott Morrison (Prime Minister)

"This is disgusting, it is appalling, and it is nothing other than just hateful desecration"


(Re: vandalizing of Diggers' grave sites with swastikas in Israel)

Peter Beattie    (Head of Rugby League Australia)

"They are not robots, they are human beings"


(Re: wrong "6 again" signal in 2019 Grand Final)

Victoria Police:

"... detectives from its Sporting Integrity Intelligence Unit had charged four men on summons as part of an investigation into alleged illegal activity within the racing industry."

Mark McGowan (WA Premier)

"shocking, appalling, horrible, tragic”


(Re: Two girls found dead in home in Madeley, Perth)

Bias_2012 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2019 at 11:20am:

Stating the obvious could be viewed as being "negative" dialogue. Opportunities to say something constructive and more informative are lost, and stating the obvious often means policies are not thoroughly thought out and the pressure of an interview brings out clichés and statements that seem more than obvious to the audience, they're not only a waste of oxygen, they can also be vote losers It's an easy way out when the interviewee is suffering brain fade and can't sustain intelligent dialogue. Partisanship of course knows no "negatives", only "positives" from their particular group's dynamics, but for neutral spectators observing from the sidelines, watching people state the obvious is hilarious and only lowers the status of interviewee I'll start the list ... I'll add to it as I hear them, or add some from the recent past as I find them Andrew Constance (NSW Lib) - "Ferries are ferries, they are for ferrying people across the harbour" Bill Shorten (Fed Labor) - "Cancer makes you sick"

Stating the obvious is up there with common sense, They only exist in the  mind of the beholder

BigP wrote on Oct 30^th, 2019 at 3:34pm:

Stating the obvious is up there with common sense, They only exist in the  mind of the beholder

The "beholder" needs to know that stating the obvious is just mindless rhetoric meant to appease the brainwashed followers of those who are spruiking those unintelligent statements

They are knee jerk reactions from frightened little minds

Anthony Albanese (Leader of Federal Opposition)

"Three years is a terrible time to be held captive"


Re: Australian academic Timothy Weeks held hostage by the Taliban

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 14^th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

Anthony Albanese (Leader of Federal Opposition) "Three years is a terrible time to be held captive" Re: Australian academic Timothy Weeks held hostage by the Taliban

;D ;D ;D

That's so appalling, I wonder if it is the Media and its lack-lustre approach and questions that seem to draw these answers out like someone trying to draw poison from a wound like some out-dated fashion? ::)

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2019 at 8:07pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 4:07pm: Anthony Albanese (Leader of Federal Opposition) "Three years is a terrible time to be held captive" Re: Australian academic Timothy Weeks held hostage by the Taliban ;D ;D ;D That's so appalling, I wonder if it is the Media and its lack-lustre approach and questions that seem to draw these answers out like someone trying to draw poison from a wound like some out-dated fashion? ::)

Yeah and Albanese fell for it

Jim Chalmers  (Fed Shadow Treasurer)


"The behavior at Westpac was nothing short of disgraceful"



Josh Frydenberg  (Fed Treasurer)


"The alleged breaches are of the most serious nature"



(Re: Westpac accused of 23 million breaches by money laundering)

Scott Morrison (Prime Minister)

"despicable act"


(Re: Muslim knife attack, killing two people, wounding three, in London)

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Gladys Berejiklian  (NSW Premier)


"Walking below the flood bed of Sydney Harbor is something that hasn't happened before"


(Re: New tunnel under Sydney Harbor)

Anthony Albanese  (Leader of Federal Opposition)

"People don't want these fires happening"


(Re: destructive bush fires)

Anthony Albanese   (Leader of Federal Opposition)


"We know that people out there are genuinely scared, and there's a reason for that, because this is scary"


(Re: Bushfires and evacuations in southern NSW)

Scott Morrison   (Prime Minister)

“People are really hurting,”

(Re: destructive bush fires)

Member of public   (Cobargo resident)


“Go on, get in the car and p*ss off back to Kirribilli mate … you wanker,”

(Re: visit by Scott Morrison)

Andrew Constance   (Liberal NSW Transport Minister)

“So to be honest the locals probably gave him the welcome he probably deserved"


(Re: Scott Morrison visit to Cobargo)

Barnacle, post no 40 is stating the obvious, yep good one, I missed that in the news

However, posts no 41 and 42 are not strictly in the spirit of the topic. No 41 is just giving cheek, and no 42, while close to stating the obvious, is only an opinion

Thanks for your input

Gary Worboys   (Deputy Commissioner State Emergency Operations)

"It's disgusting behavior"


(Re: Looting of bushfire victims property)

Daniel Andrews  (Premier of Victoria)


"We can't bring people back if they lose their lives"


(Re: Support for bushfire victims)

Hollywood can via their God of Science.

Scott Morrison   (Prime Minister)


"We can't hide from the fact that we've had an enormous shock to our farming community"



(Re: The widespread devastation to farms by bush fires)

Matt Brophey  (Acting Police Inspector)

"This is a deplorable act, low and despicable"


(Re: Theft of bush fire donations from hotel)

It's morning the sun has come up and it is raining.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18^th, 2020 at 7:21am:

It's morning the sun has come up and it is raining.

Who said that, just you, or some politician maybe?

I am now going to state the obvious

This would have to be the most boring and useless thread on this forum

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 19^th, 2020 at 12:57pm:

I am now going to state the obvious This would have to be the most boring and useless thread on this forum

you win.

;D ;D ;D ;D

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 19^th, 2020 at 12:57pm:

I am now going to state the obvious This would have to be the most boring and useless thread on this forum

If you are still having trouble understanding what this thread is about, go back and read the opening post and post #11

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2020 at 3:26pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 19th, 2020 at 12:57pm: I am now going to state the obvious This would have to be the most boring and useless thread on this forum If you are still having trouble understanding what this thread is about, go back and read the opening post and post #11

Having read the original post I’m left wondering what the hell it has to do with philosophy anyway. Maybe a new sub-branch of an often abused discipline has festered into existence  without me noticing? 

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 21^st, 2020 at 8:05am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 19th, 2020 at 3:26pm: The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 19th, 2020 at 12:57pm: I am now going to state the obvious This would have to be the most boring and useless thread on this forum If you are still having trouble understanding what this thread is about, go back and read the opening post and post #11 Having read the original post I’m left wondering what the hell it has to do with philosophy anyway. Maybe a new sub-branch of an often abused discipline has festered into existence  without me noticing?

Stating the obvious stagnates our thought processes

The thread is not political or ideological

The only other Board it could have been posted in is "Health and Welfare" - describing the topic as a mental health issue

But I see it as a deeper problem relating to the way we think. It's a mindless and repetitive habit and it's often used by prominent people whom we believe to be more intelligent and influential because of the higher positions they hold

It's bad enough that we have a confrontational left/right divide in our brains and therefore transferring into society.

What we don't need is persistent cognitive anomalies like stating the obvious making it worse, corrupting our already corrupted minds

Stating the obvious is best done tinged with humour as the man in the street would, but when expressed in a serious sense, we must question the mental capacity of people expressing it that way

Many of these people run the country, so what are their philosophies all about? and where is their mindless rhetoric leading us to?

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2020 at 12:07pm:

Stating the obvious is best done tinged with humour as the man in the street would, but when expressed in a serious sense, we must question the mental capacity of people expressing it that way Many of these people run the country, so what are their philosophies all about? and where is their mindless rhetoric leading us to?

Can I suggest those ‘running the country’ seldom possess anything as systematic as a philosophy. They may be addicted to all manner of theological fairy tales, subscribe to watered down versions of Randian ‘Objectivism’ or baste their statements with diluted Marxism but to suggest any have a developed philosophy is just too flattering for the vast majority of the fools running this planet at this point in time.
As to where their mindless rhetoric is leading us I’d suggest blindfolded at high speed down a dead end alley.

Marcia Hines: "This show is deep."

Jasin wrote on Jan 21^st, 2020 at 6:51pm:

Marcia Hines: "This show is deep."

Ms Hines would be very puzzled if she stumbled across her name being used in relation to this thread.

Murry Reynolds  (NSW Police Deputy Superintendent)


"It was an horrendous incident for the motorists using the road"



(Re: Woman trying to over-take semi - car crushed beyond recognition between two semis on Henry Lawson Drive, Milperra)

"we are the most successful multicultural society in the world" that's pretty obvious.

Johnnie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2020 at 9:25pm:

"we are the most successful multicultural society in the world" that's pretty obvious.

Some say it is

Johnnie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2020 at 9:25pm:

"we are the most successful multicultural society in the world" that's pretty obvious.

New York doesn’t do all that badly.

That's because everyone is 'Comfortably Numb'.
We have the highest ratio per population in the world of alcohol and illicit drug use.
Recent shipment of double strength MDMA from China arrived last week.
Away from Politics and Military, Australia's Health Industry is under attack and losing.
Winter is Coming because everyone is turning to Ice

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2020 at 9:37pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 22nd, 2020 at 9:25pm: "we are the most successful multicultural society in the world" that's pretty obvious. Some say it is

With black gangs running rampant in Melbourne and our max security jails full of terrorists, tens of thousands of bollards, cops now with machine guns and hundreds of thousands or millions of non assimilable imports I would hate to see the worst multicultural society, we are the biggest newest multicultural experiment in the world. The future generations will bear the brunt.

David Elliott  (NSW Police Minister)

"It's just vile"


Anthony Cooke (NSW Police Acting Asst Commissioner)


"It's about stupidity"


(Re: One punch attack leaving victim with fractured skull, in critical condition)

Johnnie wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 3:59pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2020 at 9:37pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 22nd, 2020 at 9:25pm: "we are the most successful multicultural society in the world" that's pretty obvious. Some say it is With black gangs running rampant in Melbourne and our max security jails full of terrorists, tens of thousands of bollards, cops now with machine guns and hundreds of thousands or millions of non assimilable imports I would hate to see the worst multicultural society, we are the biggest newest multicultural experiment in the world. The future generations will bear the brunt.

Do you see Multi-Cultural/Multi-Racial integration getting on in the USA?
No - the place is a crap hole mess and so will Australia.

Sydney & Melbourne have already 'sold out' (since 2000) to the International Scene and they have become nothing more than a Business District with Slums.

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I think I have xenophobia.   :-[/quote]

This is not such a bad one. The Dr is calling for a zero alcohol limit. I think we can all concur with that


Dr John Crozier   (Chair National Trauma Committee)


"There are things we can still do better"


(Re: Four children killed by drunk driver at Oatlands, near Parramatta)

Glen Weir   (Vic Police Assistant Commissioner)


“This is a terrible event, this is something that’s just shocking”


(Re: Knife attack in Melbourne killing two people)

Donald Trump (US president)

"People are dying who have never died before"

Daniel Andrews    (Premier of Victoria)


"If this gets away from us, people will die"


(Re: Corona virus)

Anthony Boyd   (NSW Police Acting Supt)


"To attack defenseless elderly people in their own home is a cowardly gutless attack"


(Re: Home invasion - Bilpin elderly apple grower bludgeoned and dies while trying to protect his elderly wife)

Despa Fitzgerald ( Det Act Supt NSW Police)


"It certainly was a cowardly, vicious attack"


(Re: Food delivery driver kicked and threatened at knife-point in Sydney suburb of Wentworthville)

Mark McGowan  (WA Premier)


"Police officers are people"



(Re: WA Coronavirus)

Simon Glasser   (NSW Police Det Insp)


"It's quite concerning"


(Re: Two males with hunting knife and axe rob Westmead store)

Daniel Andrews   (Premier of Victoria)


"It's nothing short of shameful"


(Re: Police officer thrown through air and hits parked car face first, caused by offender resisting arrest by reversing his car and smashing it into parked cars before driving off)

Jason Pietruszka  (Det Insp NSW Police)


"It's quite disgraceful"


(Re: Uber Eats driver, 19, robbed at knifepoint by a bearded Middle Eastern man in a terrifying carjacking outside a Sydney home. Phone, wallet and car stolen)

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 21^st, 2020 at 2:54am:

Jason Pietruszka  (Det Insp NSW Police) "It's quite disgraceful" (Re: Uber Eats driver, 19, robbed at knifepoint by a bearded Middle Eastern man in a terrifying carjacking outside a Sydney home. Phone, wallet and car stolen)

There's a new wave of Criminals entering Australia and the tired old British Criminals are finding it tough to compete.
Also, the Religion of Islam is much like Aboriginal Culture: the both worship the Holy and Sacred 'Land' as the foundation of their way of lives. Both point to Africa.
This is why Moslems will succeed here, like Jews in the USA. They're not here to outbreed. They're here to 'Empower' their Religion at the top of the pyramid.

Adrian Alston   (NSW Det Act Insp)


"Yeah I find it unacceptable for that sort of thing to happen"


(Re: A large group of people of Islander appearance of varying ages, both male and female descend on a car stopped at red lights and break front and rear windows, jump on car denting it, also punching driver of Asian appearance till blood was showing. Road-rage argument started in a McDonald's driveway at Liverpool in western Sydney with the car escaping only to be stopped by a red light, then Islanders ran after it. Car was in the middle lane when attacked. The whole "unacceptable" event was video'd)

Natalie Antaw   (Acting Commander of the Orana Mid-Western Police District)


"(It is) a tragic incident involving young children which always makes it that much more difficult."


(Re: Two young boys killed in an alleged hit-and-run by an unlicensed driver in Dubbo NSW. Drugs were found)

(A witness stated that the car was speeding up and down the street and "chucking wheelies")

It was pretty obvious to Biden that his wife is 'Joe' and Kamala is the President Elect.  ;D ;D ;D

...being there.  ;)

Obvious? What is obvious is this thread has no place in a forum section titled Philosophy. What is it about a large percentage of posters on this forum that makes them incapable of understanding the meaning of such terms? Lack of eduction, blatant stupidity or both?

What i think is obvious is that this is the most boring and pointless thread on this forum

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 24^th, 2021 at 9:05am:

Obvious? What is obvious is this thread has no place in a forum section titled Philosophy. What is it about a large percentage of posters on this forum that makes them incapable of understanding the meaning of such terms? Lack of eduction, blatant stupidity or both?

Stating the obvious could be viewed as being "negative" dialogue. Opportunities to say something constructive and more informative are lost, and stating the obvious often means policies are not thoroughly thought out and the pressure of an interview brings out clichés and statements that seem more than obvious to the audience, they're not only a waste of oxygen, they can also be vote losers

It's an easy way out when the interviewee is suffering brain fade and can't sustain intelligent dialogue.

Partisanship of course knows no "negatives", only "positives" from their particular group's dynamics, but for neutral spectators observing from the sidelines, watching people state the obvious is hilarious and only lowers the status of interviewee

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 24^th, 2021 at 10:54am:

What i think is obvious is that this is the most boring and pointless thread on this forum

Yet you've posted 10 messages in this thread from early 2019 - can't be that boring and pointless. But you're welcome to post elsewhere if you wish

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2021 at 10:28pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 10:54am: What i think is obvious is that this is the most boring and pointless thread on this forum Yet you've posted 10 messages in this thread from early 2019 - can't be that boring and pointless. But you're welcome to post elsewhere if you wish

10 posts in 2 years
I would hardly call that a ringing endorsement.

What is obvious is that for the last 2 years you have cherry picked people and issues that you've had an axe to grind against.
This thread isn't about stating the obvious. This is just another thinly veiled attempt by you to push your biggoted agenda on the philosophy forum.
I really don't know why you bother when there are so many other forums you could post this crap on

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 12:00pm:

10 posts in 2 years I would hardly call that a ringing endorsement.

You have been the third most prolific poster in this thread with your eleven posts, you just posted the eleventh, a grossly insulting post I might add

The second most prolific poster is Jasin with only one more post than you, so far



The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 12:00pm:

What is obvious is that for the last 2 years you have cherry picked people and issues that you've had an axe to grind against.

Cherry picked?, I've cherry picked nothing, I've posted statements from people in various professions and wonder why they say them. Perhaps you just don't like me doing that, and that would be your problem, not mine




The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 26^th, 2021 at 12:00pm:

This thread isn't about stating the obvious. This is just another thinly veiled attempt by you to push your biggoted agenda on the philosophy forum.

You like making things up from the voices in your head do you? The mere fact that you keep trolling like that means you may have an agenda, self appointed moderator

I've noticed that in your posts in this thread, you've picked on only people from the conservative side of politics stating the obvious, conservatives only - part of your agenda too?

I have posted statements from all sides, where you get "bigoted agenda" from, I don't know

Daniel Andrews    (Premier of Victoria)


"Everyone wants this to be over"



(Re: Talking about Coronavirus on ABC News 24)

Frank wrote on Oct 7^th, 2019 at 9:37am:

https://www.just-one-liners.com/category/colemanballs/

An amusing 'counterfactual' found at Frank's link.....


Quote:

I was here at Maine Road when City lost 4-0 to Wimbledon, but they could have been 2-0 up after five minutes, and if they had been, the final score might just have been different. Jim Beglin Irish football player

.


And another amusing 'counterfactual' from somewhere else....


Quote:

Proverb if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle     (colloquial, vulgar, humorous) It is fruitless to speculate about counterfactual situations.         "We would have won the match if we'd had a decent goalkeeper."         "And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle!"

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_my_aunt_had_balls,_she%27d_be_my_uncle


LOL

There's been quite a lull lately, not since the 6th of Jan has there been anyone stating the obvious before the cameras. They could be wisening up, but Daniel Andrews spoiled it by making one to-day - the pressure of the daily Covid talk perhaps?

It's unfortunate that it happens, we don't need to be told what we already know. If I was to say: "Covid exists in Australia and we need to get rid of it" ... other posters would say: "No kidding, where did you hear that?, tell us another one we don't know"

You see, I stated the obvious, doesn't go down too well, the brain needs to be engaged to avoid ridicule

Gladys avoided ridicule the other week before making a certain statement, she used the prefix: "To use a generic term," ... then rattled off the statement. Good for you Gladys

Scott Morrison   (Prime Minister)


"It's awful"


(Re: Alleged rape in Parliament House - ABC News 24)

Get drunk.
Fall over.

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2021 at 1:48pm:

There's been quite a lull lately, not since the 6th of Jan has there been anyone stating the obvious before the cameras.

BS
People are always stating the obvious in front of cameras. I really don't understand why you have such an issue about it and why your obsession with this has lasted almost 2 years.

Are you really expecting that Scott Morrison wouldn't say that the rape was awful?
He has spent $190,000 pf taxpayers money on an empathy coach, of course he was going to say that it is awful

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 21^st, 2021 at 11:32am:

Are you really expecting that Scott Morrison wouldn't say that the rape was awful?

I expect male leaders to man-up and not be children, but be grown adults

All of us know it's awful. It also seems to be predatory, more than once apparently this has happened

Taking the soft approach and just saying it's "awful" demeans the seriousness of the allegation

What is "awful", almost criminal, is the state of mind they project as a means to protect their "clique". The Public can be fooled when the same type of condescending language is used time after time

Rape is a very serious crime, it's not just "awful", it's criminal, and the rhetoric in the aftermath of the allegations should reflect that

Police officer at crime scene at Bonnyrigg in Sydney's south west


"It's a violent attack, it's not something we want to see in our community"


(Re: Brazen attack by two men with machete and hammer targeting 17 year old in home, father fought off attackers but not before attackers cut up teen in bathroom, left lying in pool of blood)

Justice Helen Wilson   (Sentencing Judge)


"A crime of extraordinary viciousness and brutality"


(Re: Young woman who stabbed her loving and caring mother more than 100 times using seven knives, then cut her mother's head off, then carried her mother's head outside and dumped it on the footpath)

Gladys Berejiklian   (NSW Premier)


"Those numbers are too high. We need to get those numbers down,"



(Re: Corona virus cases in NSW 7th July 2021)


PS Perhaps stricter rules and testing for international flight crews and passengers would go a long way to keep the numbers down, and to make sure a 4th Covid wave is avoided

When politicians understand that just one infected crew or passenger can spread the virus, and spread it quickly, then they might figure out that the State won't be safe from Covid until they establish the most likely way Covid will begin to spread

The buck stops with the dumb politicians 

Tony Fleming  (Detective Superintendent)


“It’s unacceptable that people break into people’s houses and set upon them with weapons."



(Re: Rugby legend Kefu stabbed in stomach; condition critical after foiling home invasion 16/8/21)

Bias_2012 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2019 at 11:20am:

Bill Shorten (Fed Labor) - "Cancer makes you sick"

I think that was an attempted zinger.

Gladys Berejiklian  (NSW Premier)


"Deaths are horrible"



(Re: While answering questions about Delta Virus at daily press conference)

I had no idea philosophy covered such a vast range of subjects.

Jacinda Ardern    (NZ Prime Minister)


"It was wrong"



(Re: Describing radicalized Islamic terrorist's stabbing of seven shoppers)

Gladys Berejiklian     (NSW Premier)



"I don't think there is a single person in NSW who doesn't want more freedom than they have now in lockdown"



(Re: While answering questions at media conference)

On March 16, Lawrence Oates stepped outside the tent with the immortal words:


“I am just going outside and may be some time.”


He walked out into a blizzard and -40 degree weather, never to be seen again.

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 11:44am:

On March 16, Lawrence Oates stepped outside the tent with the immortal words: “I am just going outside and may be some time.” He walked out into a blizzard and -40 degree weather, never to be seen again.

Those antarctic penguins got him !!!       :o

Darren Bennett    (NSW Police state crime command director Detective Chief Superintendent) 


"It's an atrocious crime that shouldn't have taken place"


(Re: Daylight gangland shooting in Sydney that left a father and son dead, in a long list of gangland-style" killings)

Isn’t it wolderful how philosophy has widened it’s scope to include just about anything that may happen on or off the planet?

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21^st, 2021 at 8:47am:

Isn’t it wolderful how philophy has widened it’s scope to include just about anything that may happen on or off the planet?

You wander about in unending perplexity...

Frank wrote on Oct 21^st, 2021 at 9:38am:

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 8:47am: Isn’t it wonderful how philosophy has widened it’s scope to include just about anything that may happen on or off the planet? You wander about in unending perplexity...

You're entitled to your opinion no matter how odd ? Only thing I’m perplexed about on this thread is the bizarre ideas as to what constitutes philosophy, a strictly well defined discipline.

philosophy
/fɪˈlɒsəfi/

noun: philosophy
1.
the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.

_______________________________________________________
Maybe however the nongs posting all that gibberish were inspired by this little event?
https://www.mhpbooks.com/german-philosophy-nerd-argument-ends-in-gunfire/

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21^st, 2021 at 8:47am:

Isn’t it wolderful how philosophy has widened it’s scope to include just about anything that may happen on or off the planet?

Even this statement of yours is philosophical

Did you think about that before you posted it?

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 21^st, 2021 at 1:45pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 8:47am: Isn’t it wolderful how philosophy has widened it’s scope to include just about anything that may happen on or off the planet? Even this statement of yours is philosophical Did you think about that before you posted it?

No doubt you’d think a recipe for poached eggs to be philosophical.
Must do better.

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21^st, 2021 at 1:04pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 9:38am: Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 8:47am: Isn’t it wonderful how philosophy has widened it’s scope to include just about anything that may happen on or off the planet? You wander about in unending perplexity... You're entitled to your opinion no matter how odd ? Only thing I’m perplexed about on this thread is the bizarre ideas as to what constitutes philosophy, a strictly well defined discipline. philosophy /fɪˈlɒsəfi/ noun: philosophy 1. the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline. _______________________________________________________ Maybe however the nongs posting all that gibberish were inspired by this little event? https://www.mhpbooks.com/german-philosophy-nerd-argument-ends-in-gunfire/

;D ;D ;D

You will not find much love of or pursuit of wisdom in academic philosophy.

https://ses.library.usyd.edu.au/handle/2123/345/browse?type=subject&value=Philosophy

the definition "the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence" is touchingly silly, even if it's from Oxford. As if 'the fundamental nature' of anything was ever captured and pinned down for 'academic study'.

Frank wrote on Oct 21^st, 2021 at 6:16pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 1:04pm: Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 9:38am: Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 8:47am: Isn’t it wonderful how philosophy has widened it’s scope to include just about anything that may happen on or off the planet? You wander about in unending perplexity... You're entitled to your opinion no matter how odd ? Only thing I’m perplexed about on this thread is the bizarre ideas as to what constitutes philosophy, a strictly well defined discipline. _______________________________________________________ Maybe however the nongs posting all that gibberish were inspired by this little event? https://www.mhpbooks.com/german-philosophy-nerd-argument-ends-in-gunfire/ [quote]You will not find much love of or pursuit of wisdom in academic philosophy.

I came to that conclusion many decades ago. In particular the French ‘deconstructionist’ movement impressed me as utter nonsense posing as- er - well, I’ve never been sure what the hell it was posing as. The French however have a long tradition of dishing up over-tossed word salad impressing themselves mightily with it .

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21^st, 2021 at 7:30pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 6:16pm: Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 1:04pm: Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 9:38am: Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 8:47am: Isn’t it wonderful how philosophy has widened it’s scope to include just about anything that may happen on or off the planet? You wander about in unending perplexity... You're entitled to your opinion no matter how odd ? Only thing I’m perplexed about on this thread is the bizarre ideas as to what constitutes philosophy, a strictly well defined discipline. _______________________________________________________ Maybe however the nongs posting all that gibberish were inspired by this little event? https://www.mhpbooks.com/german-philosophy-nerd-argument-ends-in-gunfire/ [quote]You will not find much love of or pursuit of wisdom in academic philosophy. I came to that conclusion many decades ago. In particular the French ‘deconstructionist’ movement impressed me as utter nonsense posing as- er - well, I’ve never been sure what the hell it was posing as. The French however have a long tradition of dishing up over-tossed word salad impressing themselves mightily with it .

Two of their 'best' were raging poofs - Barthes, Foucault. Charming writers, completely bonkers ideas. Many of their Anglo epigones also (Judith Butler, gawd'elpus)

Boris Johnson   (Prime Minister of the United Kingdom)


"No child should ever suffer' in the way Arthur did"


(Re: cruel and sadistic murder in UK of six year old boy by father and step mother)

Bureaucratic fccwits live among us, in ever greater numbers:


A council in England's south-east has been forced to apologise after lifting cars with a crane to paint double yellow lines along the road edge, then fining the owners of those cars after they were lowered back down.



That's England -  imagine China, India, Sudan, Nigeria etc.

Scott Morrison    (Prime Minister)


"a terrible awful time for Tasmanians"


(Re: Four children killed when an un-tethered jumping castle was blown away in strong gust of wind in Devonport Tas.)

Sarah Dunn    (Det. Acting Insp. NSW Police)


"It's just too much of a risk to be driving unsafely, with drugs, alcohol or at speed"


(Re: Out of control car flips and smashes into pet shop)

 

Scott Morrison    (Prime Minister)


"It's a major catastrophe"


(Re: Describing the floods at a news conference)


Well, he's got eyes at least

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2022 at 8:07pm:

Scott Morrison    (Prime Minister) "It's a major catastrophe" (Re: Describing the floods at a news conference) Well, he's got eyes at least

why did he wait almost two weeks after qld's floods and 1 week after NSW floods, to declare a national emergency?

John Smith wrote on Mar 9^th, 2022 at 8:13pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 9th, 2022 at 8:07pm: Scott Morrison    (Prime Minister) "It's a major catastrophe" (Re: Describing the floods at a news conference) Well, he's got eyes at least why did he wait almost two weeks after qld's floods and 1 week after NSW floods, to declare a national emergency?

Because he's a gutless wonder

ScoMo does no wrong.
He is a follower of God and in Gods eyes, he does no wrong.
It's all you 'un-believers' who are in the wrong so "...just stop it! Stop it!"

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2022 at 10:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 9th, 2022 at 8:13pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 9th, 2022 at 8:07pm: Scott Morrison    (Prime Minister) "It's a major catastrophe" (Re: Describing the floods at a news conference) Well, he's got eyes at least why did he wait almost two weeks after qld's floods and 1 week after NSW floods, to declare a national emergency? Because he's a gutless wonder

Absolutely

And once there, he wouldn't allow media cameras apart from his official photographer (can't miss a publicity shot). Nor would he face the victims of the floods, preferring to slither away and hide at the earliest convenience.

And it turns out he's offered extra emergency payments to victims in the nationals held seat that includes lismore, but nothing for victims who have lost everything in the neighboring seat that includes Tweed, which is seat held by labor.

Absolutely disgusting behavior from the PM towards his constituents.

And yet they still do it and get away with it.
Why?
Because Australians let them. It's what the people want no?

Keep in mind that I'm not partial who I post about, I have no favorites. Whoever states the obvious, I will post their name and their ridiculous statement that we already know, and needn't have been said at all

This is not a political thread, it's about exposing immaturity and deceptiveness in the thought processes of public officials, politicians, police, and anyone else who may be naive or trying to be dishonest in their dialogue

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 9:10pm:

This is not a political thread, it's about exposing immaturity and deceptiveness in the thought processes of public officials, politicians, police, and anyone else who may be naive or trying to be dishonest in their dialogue

It may well be but it has little, if anything, to do with philosophy,

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2022 at 9:10pm:

Keep in mind that I'm not partial who I post about, I have no favorites. Whoever states the obvious, I will post their name and their ridiculous statement that we already know, and needn't have been said at all This is not a political thread, it's about exposing immaturity and deceptiveness in the thought processes of public officials, politicians, police, and anyone else who may be naive or trying to be dishonest in their dialogue

Scorpions and Frogs.

Keeping to my policy of being unbiased and reporting straight down the middle


Anthony Albanese         (Leader of the Labor opposition)


"It's disastrous"


(Re: In interview the other day about damage done by floods)


What are politicians trying to prove when they state the obvious? Is it a syndrome that makes them feel they are connected to the people, that if they say what the people are already thinking, they can then feel they are one of us? Maybe they are trying to get us on their side, and they feel that they can do that by agreeing with us, hence stating the obvious

Just recently, two political leaders stated the obvious ... one said "It's a major catastrophe" ... the other said "It's disastrous" ... both referring to the flooding in Qld and NSW

Given that mutual agreement, one would expect a bipartisan policy between the two to reduce the "famine" from natural disasters before they occur, arrange capital works programs to divert or stop those disasters

I'm reminded of the saying "All talk and no action" ... and stating the obvious may be a way of making us think they'll take action, but at the same time, not guaranteeing they will take action ... just a simple nod of agreement but without commitment

What do you think, why do public officials and politicians state the obvious?

Isn’t it amazing how many topics can now be included within philosophy. What’s next, sponge cake recipes?

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 16^th, 2022 at 7:48am:

Isn’t it amazing how many topics can now be included within philosophy. What’s next, sponge cake recipes?

You're not trying, you have a chip on your shoulder about something, I don't know what

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 16^th, 2022 at 7:48am:

What’s next, sponge cake recipes?

Many years had elapsed during which nothing of Combray, save what was comprised in the theatre and the drama of my going to bed there, had any existence for me, when one day in winter, as I came home, my mother, seeing that I was cold, offered me some tea, a thing I did not ordinarily take. I declined at first, and then, for no particular reason, changed my mind. She sent out for one of those short, plump little cakes called 'petites madeleines,' which look as though they had been moulded in the fluted scallop of a pilgrim's shell. And soon, mechanically, weary after a dull day with the prospect of a depressing morrow, I raised to my lips a spoonful of the tea in which I had soaked a morsel of the cake. No sooner had the warm liquid, and the crumbs with it, touched my palate than a shudder ran through my whole body, and I stopped, intent upon the extraordinary changes that were taking place. An exquisite pleasure had invaded my senses, but individual, detached, with no suggestion of its origin. And at once the vicissitudes of life had become indifferent to me, its disasters innocuous, its brevity illusory--this new sensation having had on me the effect which love has of filling me with a precious essence; or rather this essence was not in me, it was myself.

Frank wrote on Mar 16^th, 2022 at 2:21pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 16th, 2022 at 7:48am: What’s next, sponge cake recipes? Many years had elapsed during which nothing of Combray, save what was comprised in the theatre and the drama of my going to bed there, had any existence for me, when one day in winter, as I came home, my mother, seeing that I was cold, offered me some tea, a thing I did not ordinarily take. I declined at first, and then, for no particular reason, changed my mind. She sent out for one of those short, plump little cakes called 'petites madeleines,' which look as though they had been moulded in the fluted scallop of a pilgrim's shell. And soon, mechanically, weary after a dull day with the prospect of a depressing morrow, I raised to my lips a spoonful of the tea in which I had soaked a morsel of the cake. No sooner had the warm liquid, and the crumbs with it, touched my palate than a shudder ran through my whole body, and I stopped, intent upon the extraordinary changes that were taking place. An exquisite pleasure had invaded my senses, but individual, detached, with no suggestion of its origin. And at once the vicissitudes of life had become indifferent to me, its disasters innocuous, its brevity illusory--this new sensation having had on me the effect which love has of filling me with a precious essence; or rather this essence was not in me, it was myself.

Is there a cure for that?

Lp
Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 20^th, 2022 at 4:29pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 16th, 2022 at 2:21pm: Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 16th, 2022 at 7:48am: What’s next, sponge cake recipes? Many years had elapsed during which nothing of Combray, save what was comprised in the theatre and the drama of my going to bed there, had any existence for me, when one day in winter, as I came home, my mother, seeing that I was cold, offered me some tea, a thing I did not ordinarily take. I declined at first, and then, for no particular reason, changed my mind. She sent out for one of those short, plump little cakes called 'petites madeleines,' which look as though they had been moulded in the fluted scallop of a pilgrim's shell. And soon, mechanically, weary after a dull day with the prospect of a depressing morrow, I raised to my lips a spoonful of the tea in which I had soaked a morsel of the cake. No sooner had the warm liquid, and the crumbs with it, touched my palate than a shudder ran through my whole body, and I stopped, intent upon the extraordinary changes that were taking place. An exquisite pleasure had invaded my senses, but individual, detached, with no suggestion of its origin. And at once the vicissitudes of life had become indifferent to me, its disasters innocuous, its brevity illusory--this new sensation having had on me the effect which love has of filling me with a precious essence; or rather this essence was not in me, it was myself. Is there a cure for that?

Cure for involuntary memory?

It's not an ailment - to state the obvious....

Peter Dutton        (Minister for Defence)

"very concerning"


(Re: Potential military pact between China and the Solomon Islands)


I'm sure we all know it's concerning, so why did he say it?

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 12:15pm:

Peter Dutton        (Minister for Defence) "very concerning" (Re: Potential military pact between China and the Solomon Islands) I'm sure we all know it's concerning, so why did he say it?

Because he’s too gutless to actually do anything about it?

Bias_2012 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 1:25pm:

Chris Bowen (Fed Labor) - "Many people suffering cancer have had to reduce their hours of work, or give up work entirely"

It is stating the obvious. But not an unreasonable thing to say. I worked with people who had cancer. It was only when things got bad that they had to reduce their hour, or quit to get more intense treatment.

Marise Payne     (Minister for Foreign Affairs, Minister for Women)


       "It's completely unacceptable"


(Re: Butchering of Ukrainians by Russian soldiers)


 

Paul Toole   (NSW Deputy Premier)


"If you belong to a criminal organization, you'll be involved in crime"



(Re: illicit drug and organized crime problem)

I recall once, many moons ago....someone on interview in street in USA, was staying ...
"Christmas is a wonderful thing, we should have it once a year"

I think they were fair dinkum about it too...maybe they only had it once ever leap year? Or maybe there were of a religion that didn't celebrate Christmas?

Sophia wrote on May 21^st, 2022 at 4:19pm:

I recall once, many moons ago....someone on interview in street in USA, was staying ... "Christmas is a wonderful thing, we should have it once a year" I think they were fair dinkum about it too...maybe they only had it once ever leap year? Or maybe there were of a religion that didn't celebrate Christmas?

Yes that was a bit of a boo boo, maybe the person was meaning to say "It's a good thing we have it once a year" ... or ... "We should certainly retain it as a once a year celebration"

Ozpol ID FutureTheLeftWant    (Leftwing Progressive Humanist poster)


"Sharia law means a law based on an interpretation of the law"



(Re: Ozpolitics thread "Reclaiming Australia .. in "Islam" board)

Paul Toole     (Deputy Premier NSW)


"It was shocking and it was violent"


(Re: Fatal stabbing of teenager at Sydney Royal Easter Show this year)

Danny Doherty        (Homicide Detective Superintendent)


"It is not acceptable by any standards"


(Re: Assassination style killing of two women sitting in car in the suburb of Revesby in Sydney) 



Was there ever a standard by which two innocent women could be shot to death, regarded as acceptable?

Troy Papworth     (Vic Acting Police Superintendent)


"It was frankly disgraceful"


(Re: Violence in different locations in Melbourne by groups of black African youths resulting in a person stabbed to death, another person stabbed multiple times and hospitalized, other persons punched and kicked)


Was it just disgraceful, or was it more serious than that?

Let's help Police person Papworth out here

A more appropriate description that came to my mind was: "brutal" ... just off the top of my head, but it seems fitting

So I consulted the dictionary and the meaning is thus ...

brutal | ˈbruːtl |
adjective
savagely violent: a brutal murder.

Perhaps Police person Papworth might have consoled the Public better if he'd said "We don't need savage violence in Melbourne such as just occurred, we will keep a closer eye on black African youths from now on""

Chris Minns  (NSW Premier)


"Horrible crime"


(Re: the hammer murder of 21y/old Lilie James at the school where she worked)

Anthony Albanese   (Prime Minister)


"This was a horrific act of violence"


(Re: Multiple stabbings resulting in 6 deaths at shopping mall in Sydney)



You don't say prime minister ... what else would it be?

Roger Cook  (Premier of Western Australia)


"it was a "heinous, ugly and violent attack".

"This is a disgusting crime"


(Re: Rage attack where victim lost his leg below knee, and hit on head with hammer)


Silly premier, who's he trying to convince, himself maybe?