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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl General Discussion >> Technically Speaking >> 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1554285575 Message started by Baronvonrort on Apr 3^rd, 2019 at 7:59pm

Title: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Baronvonrort on Apr 3^rd, 2019 at 7:59pm

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25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About

There are a few reasons why people tend to gravitate toward big names like Tesla.

Then there are those buyers that don’t even consider quality when shopping around for a vehicle, instead looking for what would project their desired image. Tesla fits nicely in most people’s minds because their cars are state-of-the-art, trendy, and expensive. Anyone who is image-obsessed is instantly drawn to products like Teslas.

Not everything is unicorns and rainbows when it comes to an electric vehicle, and Tesla (undoubtedly) has a few kinks to work out. However, some of these flaws have seemingly been ignored or swept away from the public eye. There are some things that are never openly admitted or speculated about Tesla vehicles, yet we harshly criticize run-of-the-mill autos with ease. Out of fairness—and for potential buyers, necessity—we should take a look at a few of the complaints that current owners have raised about these beloved EVs.

https://www.hotcars.com/problems-with-tesla-nobody-talks-about/

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 4^th, 2019 at 8:15am

And don't forget the most dangerous fault of all with the unsafe Tesla piles of junk - the crummy suspension with aluminium parts that become brittle and break and a wheel falls off!!!!!

See what happens when the suspension breaks on a unsafe Tesla X and a wheel falls off!!!

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 5^th, 2019 at 5:13am

what a piece of rubbish post, the number one problem with a Tesla is that each model looks the same, just like every other manufacturer of Mass produced cars, these guys are idiots !!!!! :D :D :D

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 5^th, 2019 at 6:46am

Out of the swamp lurches Tweedledee spouting her Tesla Fan Girl stuff and denying the obvious - that Tesla is an UNSAFE pile of junk.

Tweedledee where is your sister Tweedledumb who has the sock collection ?

Tesla X with a wheel that fell off after faulty suspension broke.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Baronvonrort on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 3:53pm

A Tesla owner gets locked in his Tesla...lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeH6DWbBW2g

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Baronvonrort on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 3:55pm

Another happy customer...lmao

Quote:

Sheryl Crow's Tesla got stuck in a parking lot

Sheryl Crow
✔
@SherylCrow

Help! Who knows what to do when your @Tesla screen goes black and the reset doesn’t work? Return it and get your money back?? #Tesla #stuckinaparkinglot

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/sheryl-crow-tesla-stuck-in-parking-lot-2019-4?utm_content=buffer4af7b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-ti&fbclid=IwAR18_UtmYLxnMZDMEJTyy1zm78QoMZ_Hb0rF7IPBE8sdmV0TyDKHM3U-e6U&r=US&IR=T

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 3:59pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

A Tesla owner gets locked in his Tesla...lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeH6DWbBW2g

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/man-trapped-in-own-car-writes-death-note-following-horrifying-malfunction/news-story/153c77fd3a3bc7b177ac8fbbdb0acf28
LAST month, Peter Pyros decided to take his beloved 2006 Cadillac XLR roadster for a drive.
It was a decision that almost cost him his life.
When the 75-year-old Cleveland, Ohio resident got into the vehicle on the morning of August 31, the car would not start and his key fob wouldn’t work.
But the malfunction that shut down the engine also locked the car doors and closed off the electrical system, including the horn, effectively making Mr Pyros a prisoner in his own car.
What followed was a 14-hour fight for survival as temperatures inside the vehicle soared to a potentially deadly 37 degrees.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2879124/New-Zealand-Couple-Close-Death-Didn-t-Know-Locked-Car.html
Elderly couple almost suffocated after spending 13 hours in their car because they forget their remote key device and thought they couldn't open the doors without it
Mollieanne and Brian Smith were trapped in a Mazda 3 for 13 hours

https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/woman-locked-inside-her-bmw-am-i-gonna-die

seams to be a normal problem with cars... hmmm maybe we should get rid of all cars hay Baron :D :D :D

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 8^th, 2019 at 5:04pm

Lulu Tweedledee tells her Tesla Fan Girl Story.

Now here is a Tesla S in top condition. Funny how they catch fire.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 5:52am

580 cars catch on fire a day just in the USA jules, what is your point ? :D

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 9^th, 2019 at 7:48am

Lulu Tweedledee tells her Tesla Fan Girl Story. She can't understand the TOPIC is about the unsafe TESLA piles of junk.

But what she really longs for - to see another mangled Tesla.

Unsafe Tesla 3 comes to a sudden stop.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 7:44am

https://insideevs.com/tesla-releases-new-safety-report-q1-2019/

“In the 1st quarter, we registered one accident for every 2.87 million miles driven in which drivers had Autopilot engaged. For those driving without Autopilot, we registered one accident for every 1.76 million miles driven. By comparison, NHTSA’s most recent data shows that in the United States there is an automobile crash every 436,000 miles.” ;) ;)
it must be getting hard to find new pics of crashes Jules :D :D

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 9:12am

Lulu Tweedledee tells her Tesla Fan Girl Story. She can't understand the TOPIC is about the unsafe TESLA piles of junk.

She keeps trying to change the topic and opens up new rubbish topics full of silly Tesla Fan Girl fictional flubber. What a Greeny twerp - so typical of these wastes of time and space creepy ghouls.

But what Tweedledee really is begging for is another unsafe Tesla crash. She particularly enjoys seeing what happens when the suspension breaks and a wheel falls off on an unsafe Tesla S.

'
What happens to an unsafe Tesla S when the suspension breaks and a wheel falls off -CCRRAASSHH!!!

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 3:48pm

juliar is totally retarded !

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Bobby. on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 4:23pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 3:48pm:

juliar is totally retarded !

All cars will have accidents and breakdowns -
especially new, high performance technology.
It doesn't matter as the world will have to go electric one day -
there is just not enough petrol to last forever.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 4:59pm

Oh Goody Tweedledumb the mental patient is showing off her favorite sock in her sock collection she keeps in her room at the mental hospital.

And Bobby sounds like a Greeny prophet.

It seems he has not heard of the real future energy that has NONE of the many practical problems the unsafe toy gimmicky electric cars have -- HYDROGEN a direct replacement for petrol and diesel and a quick refuel time.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by bellamor on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:11pm

This category is created for TESLA! LOL

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 5:51am

bellamor wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:11pm:

This category is created for TESLA! LOL

seams like it hehe, Tesla get the only debate, however they are a innovative company that are disrupting lots of area's and if you include Elon musk and his pursuits then there are lots of area's that are being disrupted. Most people don't like change, really. ;)

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Bobby. on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 7:48am

juliar wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 4:59pm:

You're a fool.
One day soon we'll have Thorium energy power stations.
It means unlimited cheap energy.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1519823686/0#0
At 3 cent per kilowatt hour it will be cheaper to charge up
your electric car then if you have roof top solar panels.

Petrol is a magic substance with enormous energy density -
we're wasting it so much that one day people will look back
and curse us.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:19am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 5:51am:

bellamor wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:11pm:

This category is created for TESLA! LOL

Especially the LNP and their addiction to fossil fools :(

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 4:29pm

Bobby is doing some more preaching - lambasting the unbelievers. Casting fire and brimstone on their unworthy heads!!!

Robert p'raps U could cast a discerning glance at the other topic about Nuke Power as it has some relevant factual articles about the quest for real power including Thorium.

Why doesn't the mental patient Tweedledumb show everyone her sock collection she keeps in her room at the mental hospital ?

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 2:04am

Dangerous unsafe Tesla DEATH TRAP roasts man alive after doors would not open after crash.

Auto locking doors killed Tesla driver in fire after a crash
27 Feb 2019

Tesla deadly fire

A crash involving a 2016 Tesla Model S in Davies, Florida this past Sunday proved deadly for the driver, reports Autoblog.com. The vehicle hit a tree and a fire started with the driver inside. According to reports, emergency responders were unable to rescue the driver.

Watch the video of the fire and read the original article here:- https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/25/fatal-tesla-model-s-crash-fire/?fbclid=IwAR12LHsPB5YqJsKR0jUG0Rk7bPClzo_Vidl8cCYEAnRFBVjM3McRR3U3fsY

The automatically deploying door handles on the outside don't appear to have deployed — the exterior handles on a Model S are electronically activated and remain flush with the door itself when not in use.

According to Tesla, "When an airbag inflates, the Model S unlocks all doors, the trunk, and extends all door handles."

The reports show that this didn´t happen as designed:: Witnesses said the airbags didn´t deflate, which prevented both the driver to escape and cut off quick access for the first responders.

During transport from the scene, the Model S reignited, which is also common for electric cars with damage to the battery.

Here's the statement that Autoblog.com received from Tesla:

"We are deeply saddened by this accident and our thoughts are with everyone affected by this tragedy. We have reached out to the local authorities to offer our cooperation. We understand that speed is being investigated as a factor in this crash, and know that high speed collisions can result in a fire in any type of car, not just electric vehicles."

https://www.ctif.org/news/auto-locking-doors-killed-tesla-driver-fire-after-crash

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 2:55pm

Is TESLA a DANGEROUS UNSAFE DEATH TRAP ???

The death rate in a tesla fire is 45%.

The death rate in an ICE is 0.25% you have a 1 in 2 chance of dying in a tesla fire vs a 1 in 400 chance in an ICE.

And why do only teslas catch fire vs any other EV's such as Leafs, Bolts Volts non of them catch fire.

It is because tesla uses 8000 thin wall cordless drill batteries. Also let's not forget the electric doors would not open a serious design flaw that musk said could not happen.

An old-fashioned company like Mercedes Benz will test what happens in the case of a crash.

They used to say Mercedes buys back every crashed car, duno if that is true (maybe in Europe?).

But I remember reading how they engineer door handles to open in the case of a crash.

Not in 90% of crashes, or only crashes where the car's computers are still alive, but in every crash.

That is the difference between engineering and some slapdash battery sled that has an "autopilot" that kills cyclists and doors that can't be opened in a crash.

The problem is this was a design direction that, while feasible and highly marketable, was chosen in spite of likely evidence that showed increased risk of this very scenario.

Sure, Tesla won't volunteer the paper trail showing it, but this is exactly why other companies with comparable designs employ extreme, high-cost countermeasures (e.g. exploding bolts) to assuage the concern.

GM isn't cavalier enough to design anything on the Volt like this, and the point here is not to indict all EVs. Just some of Tesla's managerial decisions.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 6:15pm

It seems decay and waste is enveloping the doomed Tesla circus - sounds like the Labor Party!!!

Insiders describe a world of chaos and waste at Panasonic's massive battery-making operation for Tesla
Linette Lopez Apr 17, 2019, 3:56 AM

Panasonic operates in Tesla’s Gigafactory in Sparks, Nevada.

Current and former employees at Panasonic’s battery-making operation inside Tesla’s Gigafactory said it’s a chaotic environment where standard operating procedures often go ignored and there are half a million pieces of scrap generated daily.

“Why do we throw away half a million batteries a day? Because people are slobs and the stuff’s not clean,” a former employee said. Panasonic sends about 3 million battery cells to Tesla every day.
Business Insider also reviewed internal documents, including some related to an oil spill that sent workers hunting for weeks through millions of battery cells to find potentially contaminated product.

Insiders have described a chaotic environment in Panasonic’s battery-making operation in the Nevada desert, one where standard operating procedures go ignored, expensive mistakes are born from carelessness, and half a million pieces of scrap are generated daily.

“I do not think that Tesla knows everything [that goes on on Panasonic’s side],” one former employee who left the company last year said. “It’s impossible to know everything. If Elon Musk was to know what was truly going on, he would flip his lid.”

Tesla and Panasonic share the Gigafactory, the massive manufacturing plant outside Reno, Nevada, built in 2016. At the Gigafactory, under the same roof, Panasonic makes cells for Tesla’s cars, and then Tesla turns the cells into batteries for its new Model 3 sedan. Tesla also makes the drive units for the Model 3 there.

Last week, Nikkei reported that Tesla and Panasonic would freeze plans to expand the Gigafactory. Tesla’s stock fell, while Panasonic’s rose after the news. Tesla responded by saying that both companies were still putting “substantial funds” into the Gigafactory, but that there’s more “output to be gained from improving existing production equipment.”

Tesla CEO Elon Musk called Panasonic’s production rate a “constraint on Model 3 output” that the company has known about since July.

Three current and former employees, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told Business Insider that the operation scraps roughly half a million cells each day. Business Insider reviewed internal company documents, including some related to an oil spill that sent management scrambling for weeks to find potentially contaminated cells.

Together they tell a story of an operation that is still trying to get its bearings as batteries roll off the production line and into Model 3s. And just like on the Tesla side of the Gigafactory, there’s intense pressure to meet production goals and work at breakneck speed.

A Panasonic spokesperson replied to a list of Business Insider’s detailed questions about these issues with the following statement:
Panasonic produces the most advanced electric vehicle battery cells because we pay exceptional attention to quality. Our quality-control protocols are industry standards and include cleanroom environments and laboratory-like working conditions.

The battery cells go through several testing gates before they are released to Tesla, and Tesla separately tests the cells after delivery. We are proud to have helped propel one of the most exciting revolutions in the auto industry.
If you have any experience working with Tesla or Panasonic, email me at llopez@businessinsider.com.

Markets Insider

Tiny little big mistakes
Quickly, here are a few very broad words on how lithium-ion batteries are made.
The inside of the battery is made up of a sheet of a positively charged electrode (anode) and a sheet of a negatively charged electrode (cathode); there is a thin material separating the two. All of that rolled together makes the inside of a battery cell.

Panasonic sends Tesla about 3 million battery cells daily, making this a massive operation that comes with all of what that entails – giant 16-foot-high mixers churning lithium and other chemicals, standard operating procedures meant to keep volatile ingredients clean, and a tracking system to follow materials as they go through the production process.
It’s an expensive operation too. Panasonic makes up the lion’s share of Tesla’s $US18 billion worth of purchase obligations, $US4.8 billion of which is due in 2019, according to Tesla company filings.
The current and former employees told Business Insider that standard operating procedures often go ignored without consequence at the facility.

Read the rest of this story of decay and catastrophe here

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/panasonic-battery-cell-operations-tesla-gigafactory-chaotic-2019-4?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral&r=US&IR=T

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 6:38pm

Won't the Greeny Tesla Fan Girls be upset as they see Tesla sliding towards oblivion ?

Elon Musk just had a terrible week and it could easily get worse, fast
Linette Lopez Apr 6, 2019, 4:42 AM

Tesla’s legal and financial troubles came to a head this week as the company reported weak deliveries and its CEO went to court in Manhattan.

The week epitomized the company’s troubles in 2019, with investors starting to wonder about CEO Elon Musk’s leadership and the company’s cash position.
“This f—ing guy’s crazy,” one investor told Business Insider.

You should forgive yourself if this is the first time you’re hearing that the billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk – with his eyes staring straight ahead, unblinking – went before a judge in Manhattan on Thursday.

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He was there flanked by his security guards and three lawyers. The Securities and Exchange Commission was there, represented by three more lawyers. There were journalists and hobbyists and short-sellers in the packed courtroom, all waiting to see whether Judge Alison Nathan would hold Musk in contempt of court.

The US Securities and Exchange Commission had ordered Musk to stop making material statements about his car company, Tesla, on Twitter without approval from an attorney designated by the court. You’ll recall that Musk caused company-wide chaos last August when he tweeted he had “funding secured” to take the company private. He ultimately settled with the SEC, which described this and other tweets as “false and misleading.”

But the SEC says Musk broke the settlement’s rules in February when he tweeted that Tesla would make 500,000 cars in 2019.
It will not.
We know that not only because the company itself has announced lower projections (400,000 at the top) but also because of the other pressing disaster in Tesla land right now – it is not selling enough cars.

The same day Musk sat in the courtroom, Tesla’s stock was falling by about 9%. Hours earlier, on Wednesday night – after two days of hemming and hawing – the company released its first-quarter delivery numbers. They were worse than most analysts had imagined.

Tesla delivered only 63,000 cars, a roughly 31% drop from the quarter before. And most devastatingly, Tesla was hit the hardest on its most lucrative cars, the luxury Model S and Model X, which saw their sales cut in more than half.

Given all of the problems on Musk’s plate, it’s no wonder he seemed relieved when the judge deferred a decision on whether he was in contempt of court and asked his lawyers to meet with the SEC once in the next two weeks to see whether they could carve out a deal.

“Put on your reasonableness pants on,” she said, or she would decide Musk’s fate.
Musk left the courtroom and promptly put out a statement dripping with vindication. “I have great respect for Judge Nathan, and I’m pleased with her decision today,” the statement said. “The tweet in question was true, immaterial to shareholders, and in no way a violation of my agreement with the SEC.” (Nathan had not said any of that.)

It went on: “We have always felt that we should be able to work through any disagreements directly with the SEC, rather than prematurely rushing to court. Today, that is exactly what Judge Nathan instructed.”

In a week of losses, Musk could be forgiven for trying to eke out some kind of a win. Neither of Musk or Tesla’s major struggles – legal or financial – is in any way resolved, and even long investors are starting to worry.

“Yeah I own the stock. It’s not one of my favourite positions. I just think the cars are leaps and bounds above everything else in this field,” said Andrew Left of Citron Research, a man who went from short Tesla to long and loud about it.

“It would be better without Elon,” Left said, adding: “I think this guy is just a big distraction. It kills me. It comes from the top.”
“The communication is terrible,” he said. “This f—ing guy’s crazy.”

The legal issues could get worse, fast. The nightmare scenario in the coming weeks is that the SEC and Musk’s lawyers can’t come to an agreement and Nathan rules him in contempt.

The financial issues could get worse, fast, too. Tesla is expected to release its Q1 balance sheet in the coming weeks, giving investors a clearer picture of the company’s financial position. More bad news could send them running for the hills.
Have a story to share about working for or interacting with Tesla? Contact Business Insider’s Linette Lopez at llopez@businessinsider.com.

2019 was supposed to be chill at Tesla, not like 2018, when Musk “bet the company” on the success of the Model 3 car and Tesla was “near death” trying to make that happen. That seemed to pay off in the third and fourth quarters, when Tesla achieved profitability in consecutive quarters for the first time.

Read the rest of Tesla's decline and fall here

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/tesla-elon-musk-goes-to-court-and-deliveries-fall-in-one-terrible-week-2019-4

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by John Smith on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 6:46pm

juliar, if you don't like em, don't buy one. There are lots of crappy cars out there that you don't post anything about. Not even a mention.

How much are Teslas opponents paying you?

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 7:36pm

Heavens! Mr Smith in a tech area! Must have lost his way.

Now he is trying to be a Greeny Tesla Fan Boy!!!

Mr Smith, after the FACTS I have learned about these dangerous unsafe pollution spewing coal powered Tesla heaps I would not risk life and limb by even climbing into one cause you never know when a wheel might fall off or it might catch fire!!!!!!

And there is nothing like a good Tesla S prang to inspire confidence.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by John Smith on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 7:38pm

juliar wrote on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 7:36pm:

You don't do facts .... now, how much are they paying you?

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 7:45pm

Now Mr Smith is doing his standard Lefty deny and lie routine. Mr Smith I know you Lefties are scared stiff of FACTS and quickly try to deny and lie about them.

Things getting a bit boring over there in the Fed Politics area especially after Silly Shorty is too scared to debate with triumphant ScoMo backed by Clive Palmer ?

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 27^th, 2019 at 5:51am

juliar wrote on Apr 26^th, 2019 at 2:55pm:

and yet no reported deaths from a Fire in a Tesla Jules...……. The people that have been burnt in Tesla's where dead already from the crash.... there is a difference you dill.... ;)

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 3:13am

The braindead fool Tweedledee does it again - wastes space by copying my clever post and then desecrates it with her silly Greeny Tesla Fan Girl nondescript rubbish.

But always what this intellectually deprived freakish twit wants to see is

Dangerous unsafe Tesla S can't stop in time and CCRAAASSSHHHH!!!!!

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 6:43am

going off of stats in Australia for 2016 there where 32,500 injuries from accident's…. that is injuries where the victim went to a hospital, doesn't include injuries treated at doctors.....

there are 18 million vehicles on the road in Australia,

That is 180 injuries for every 100,000 vehicles in 2016,
There are also 1200 deaths a years so that is about 6 deaths per 100,000 vehicles…..

That is just injuries , its hard to find how many accidents or write off's that happen in a year, I would guess the number would be higher.
Tesla have sold 500,000 vehicles and have been selling vehicles for about 10 years... there will be accidents. ;)

https://www.budgetdirect.com.au/car-insurance/research/car-accident-statistics.html

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 1:59pm

The silly fool Tweedledee is still parroting total garbage from her cesspool of Greeny Tesla Fan Girl lies.

But what she wants to see is another dangerous unsafe Tesla crash.

Dangerous unsafe Tesla 3 did not stop.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 2:18pm

Is Tesla going to hit the end of the road ?

Shucks!!!

Tesla Posts $702 Million Loss. Is This the End?
Written by Alex Koyfman Posted April 24, 2019 at 8:00PM

Dear Reader,

After two profitable quarters, Tesla Motors (NASDAQ: TSLA) is reporting a loss of $700 million for Q1 2019.

This $2.90 per share loss is being attributed to a sharp decline in model S and X output, contributing to an overall delivery drop of a ground-shaking 31%.

Though production of the Model 3, the car Elon Musk claimed would take Tesla to the next level by finally attacking the elusive middle-class market, rose by 3% from the previous quarter, deliveries of the flagship models managed to drop to just 12,100 units — less than half of the 25,000 unit per quarter run rate of the last two years.

Wall Street analysts, the same guys who were projecting adjusted profits of $6.75 per share for 2019 back in January, were not shocked considering the delivery figures, but the dismal numbers were even worse than most dared to predict.

Needless to say, this is not what diehard Tesla fans wanted to hear.

A Lot Can Change in 120 Days
After the heady days of late 2018, when analyst predictions were being handily beaten, this news puts a cloud over the 15-year-old company's future.

As of today, Tesla's cash and cash equivalents are down to $2.2 billion from $3.7 billion at the close of last year — a substantial bloodletting by any standards.

Despite all of this, Musk managed to stay positive during his conference call with analysts, stating that demand remains “quite solid, quite strong.”

Since bold predictions are the name of the game when it comes to the world's biggest EV maker, I figure I'll throw one into the mix as well.

This is the beginning of the end.

The problem isn't that the idea is bad. The problem is that the forces that are lined up against the California-based car manufacturer are simply too great.

David Versus a Team of Goliaths
Just about every major car brand in the world — from American giants such as Ford and Chevy to Japanese powerhouses like Toyota and Nissan to the European luxury brands — is making major inroads in the EV market.

Even Ferrari, a company known for power, prestige, and the world's sexiest exhaust note, has openly stated plans to offer an all-electric super-car.

How can an upstart like Tesla possibly compete with such an onslaught of competition from brands with decades of established customer loyalty?

The answer: It probably can't.

Lacking the conventionally powered fallbacks that all the other brands still rely on as their mainstays, Tesla just might go down in history as the automotive industry's “little engine that couldn't.”

Yeah, I know, all of this sounds downright pessimistic and reactionary on my part.

https://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/tesla-posts-702-million-loss-is-this-the-end-/92191?utm_source=email-article&identifier=678ae69e771a0bc758c458f317f34bff&utm_referrer=3

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 4:49pm

Hey socko I've got bad news for you ;)

Tesla Model 3 tops resale value ranking, report says

https://electrek.co/2019/01/24/tesla-model-3-tops-resale-value-report/

Quote:

“The Tesla Model 3 has a cultural magic and desirability about it that made people willing to wait months and even years to own one. People don’t like Tesla Model 3s — they crave them — and that’s how you hold on to your resale value over time.”

Quote:

Kelley Blue Book projects a resale value of 69.3% at 36 months and 48.7% at 60 months for Model 3.

The company bundles all electric vehicles together instead of making them compete with their gas-powered equivalent.

If Model 3 was included in either the “luxury car” or “midsize car” categories, it would have topped both of them by a wide margin.

Kelley Blue Book’s rankings are based on projections, but Tesla vehicles have already shown that they hold their value better than competition on the used market, according to other studies.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 6:02pm

More idiotic childish dribble from the obviously intellectually handicapped Tweedledumb. But then she IS a Greeny Tesla Fan Girl.

Now a nice dangerous unsafe Tesla crash.

Wonder why this dangerous unsafe Tesla S caught fire ?

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 8:15pm

Oh really socko !

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 8:27pm

Oh goody! The mental patient Tweedledumb is showing off her sock collection she keeps in her room at the mental hospital.

Wonder if she washes them or prefers the pungent odor of the well worn ?

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 29^th, 2019 at 10:58pm

Hey socko. Here are 25 problems with fossil fool clunkers that Tesla owners never need to talk about :D LOL

No costly oil changes,
No oil filter to replace,
No air filter to replace,
No fuel filter to replace,
No fuel pump to block up or replace,
No spark plugs to replace,
No fuel injectors to block up or deteriorate,
No expensive catalytic converter that can fail with contaminated fuel or wear out over time,
No expensive exhaust pipe to replace,
No oxygen sensors to fail,
No head gasket problems,
No valves and valve guides to burn out,
No rocker cover oil leaks,
No main bearing leaks,
No carcinogenic sump oil to dispose of,
No hugely expensive automatic transmission to break down and replace,
No clutch to wear out,
Hugely extended brake life due to regen braking,
No fan belts to wear out and replace,
No water pump to replace,
No radiator to replace,
No alternator to replace,
No timing chain to stretch or break,
No pistons or rings to wear out,

You're quite welcome to add to the list as I am sure there is plenty of other junk designed to wear out over time :D LOL

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 4:18am

The pathetically stupid Tweedledumb has copied IRRELEVANT OFF TOPIC Greeny Tesla Fan Girl rubbish from her own silly posts which are full of this Greeny Tesla Fan Girl trash.

Why isn't the mental patient Tweedledumb showing off her sock collection that she keeps in her room at the mental hospital ?

I liked to see her show off her favorite socks in her sock collection. Must be under sedation again after throwing another mental fit.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Baronvonrort on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 12:04pm

Quote:

A Chinese ride-hailing company is so unhappy with its fleet of 278 Tesla cars that it bought billboards in Times Square to demand refunds

The Chinese ride-hailing company Shenma Zhuanche said it took inspiration from the Oscar-winning film “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri” to air its grievances against Tesla.

The company said it took out three advertisements outside Reuters’ Times Square headquarters to demand Tesla provide compensation and better customer service after more than 20% of the 278 cars it purchased experienced “electro-mechanical failures.”

“Shenma special vehicle and Tesla have made repeated negotiations but Tesla’s internal efficiency is low, resulting in unsatisfactory after-sales service, long processing time for complaints, and delays in solving vehicle problems,” Shenma said on its official Weibo account, adding that wait time for service had averaged 45 days, costing the company 6.5 million yuan, or about $US965,000.

A Tesla representative declined to comment.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/tesla-criticized-in-times-square-billboards-by-shenma-zhuanche-2019-4?utm_content=buffer35a21&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-ti&fbclid=IwAR1TbmnWxEQeTTCCpVEVeXiE4VTVMiD-4cO-6rayeukDCoG691n6lF_Nttg&r=US&IR=T

The Tesla shitbox will be an expensive lemon when the warranty expires.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 1:21pm

And stupid Shorty with his stupid NBN Mark 2 - a pollution spewing electric car in every garage - wants to inflict this dangerous unsafe electric car rubbish on every citizen.

All this useless dangerous unsafe electric junk will be rendered obsolete overnite once the pure pollution free future HYDROGEN energy takes over.

Batteries are only suitable for small light weight toy gimmicky "cars" but HYDROGEN can handle the BIG STUFF with ease.

The big 600HP 12L vehicles like large pollution spewing diesel trucks will easily swing over to pure pollution free HYDROGEN.

Pure Hydrogen will take the massive pollution causing electric car overload off the coal power stations.

Even the junk yards won't accept the obsolete electric junk.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 3:32pm

juliar wrote on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 1:21pm:

if hydrogen takes 4 times the power to make it usable in a Fuel cell, how will that stop coal power Jules ? :D

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 7:31pm

Silly Greeny Tesla Fan Girl twit Tweedledee has gas on the brain.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 8:27pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Quote:

The Tesla shitbox will be an expensive lemon when the warranty expires.

How many lemons did ford make and they are still in business. But that is ok because people who own fords still get to take it up the arse at the fossil fool bowser and pay through the nose for maintenance and spares so it's ok to own a Ford lemon :D LOL

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 8:30pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 3:32pm:

juliar wrote on Apr 30^th, 2019 at 1:21pm:

if hydrogen takes 4 times the power to make it usable in a Fuel cell, how will that stop coal power Jules ? :D

doesn't socko know that hydrogen fool cars still need lithium batteries for energy storage ??

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on May 1^st, 2019 at 4:49pm

The pathetically stupid Tweedledumb has copied my clever post and added some imbecilic Greeny Tesla Fan Girl trash.

Why isn't the mental patient Tweedledumb showing off her sock collection that she keeps in her room at the mental hospital ?

I liked to see her show off her favorite socks in her sock collection. Must be under sedation again after throwing another mental fit.

Title: Re: 25 Problems With Tesla Nobody Talks About
Post by juliar on May 2^nd, 2019 at 8:01am

Why won't the mental patient Tweedledumb show everyone her sock collection she keeps in her room at the mental hospital ?

Is she under sedation again after chucking another mental fit ?