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Message started by Aussie on Feb 21st, 2019 at 8:45pm

Title: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 21st, 2019 at 8:45pm
Cods over at the sewer:


Quote:
totally agree.... its time those who think they are bullied had some power..


Can't argue with that.  Much.


Quote:
for instance why cant fd make a rule if you ask someone to stay away from you in a nice fashion...

and they dont stay away you can have them banned...... mods have the ability to get you banned if you are banned from their space and break the rules....


So, that means the right of cods to say what she wants trumps the right of anyone who wants to comment on what she has said.  Yay!


Quote:
well what wrong with giving the members a bit of power .... being trolled all over the forum like happens to me....gets wearing... I do ignore it but its there poke poke poke... why cant I put a stop to that?......I dont think thats asking too much.....


Solution is simple cods and in our own hands.  Don't post crap and no-one can 'poke.'  Post crap and it will be 'poked.'



Quote:
if people abuse the right to complain....by whinging about every little thing then thats up to the gmods to deal with them with a massive WARNING...12 months holiday maybe....


Have you been complaining, cods?


Quote:
its a shame to come down to this... but look at ozpol.. there are places i wouldnt dare enter....I am afraid to comment in polsux they come out in droves to pick my bones...


What? You are as free as any bird to post what you like, cods.  That is what these places are for.  And...the other side of that same coin is that others have the same right...to post what they like.


Quote:
we have to start somewhere bo....everywhere is the same the uglies are winning..


No cods. No-one is winning here......other than FD, who makes a quid.  You get to have your say, and everyone else does too.

If you want to have a say at some place where you want everyone to agree with you...start your own Forum, and talk to yourself.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by cods on Feb 21st, 2019 at 9:29pm
just to put the record straight...

I was asked   not to reply to a certain member here   in no uncertain term either....so since then I never! have  never even looked in his board...I know when I am not wanted....

I would appreciate you doing me the same favour  I neither look for your attention nor want it...

it is of course beyond my scope to prevent you for "stalking" me and copying my words....

what your fascination is with me! I do not know...

you do your best to put me down..

let me tell you your efforts are wasted...

I am neither interested in you!  or the CRAP  you spread...save it for your other playground...

I am asking you, in I believe a very nice way to stop following me  and asking me dumb crap  questions....and stop copying my posts  just to win a brownie point...

leave me alone please .

I have done my best to ignore you now for weeks.....but it doesnt seem to get through..

so take it from me...just go play with your mates..I am not interested..in anything you have to say....

the end!

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by .JaSin. on Feb 21st, 2019 at 10:36pm
Now why did you go and post a Topic like that for Aussie Bullfrog?
You can't help yourself eh?
You're a pathetic addict to soapie drama based on boring 'quotes' of He said/She said, because there is nothing else interesting about you.
You are the quintessential Drama Queen and you cry because you don't have a Float to attend the Mardi Gras.
No wonder my impression of Mellie still upsets you - you wish it was you in her clothes up there on a Float.

You are a very weird and dull person with no real sense of the word Personality at your disposal.

What an incredibly stupid Topic you have created to attract what I call 'Forum Grind'.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 21st, 2019 at 11:56pm

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:04am
oh poor cods . . . . .

Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by cods on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:28am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:04am:
oh poor cods . . . . .

Spot



will I do it to you spot?..

just to give you an idea?..

just say the word!

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 8:12am

cods wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:28am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:04am:
oh poor cods . . . . .

Spot



will I do it to you spot?..

just to give you an idea?..

just say the word!


Do what to me exactly?

Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by barryfromthebush on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:03am

Jasin wrote on Feb 21st, 2019 at 10:36pm:
Now why did you go and post a Topic like that for Aussie Bullfrog?
You can't help yourself eh?
You're a pathetic addict to soapie drama based on boring 'quotes' of He said/She said, because there is nothing else interesting about you.
You are the quintessential Drama Queen and you cry because you don't have a Float to attend the Mardi Gras.
No wonder my impression of Mellie still upsets you - you wish it was you in her clothes up there on a Float.

You are a very weird and dull person with no real sense of the word Personality at your disposal.

What an incredibly stupid Topic you have created to attract what I call 'Forum Grind'.


So says the retard himself, You're many steps below Aussie, Peccary etc.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by The Reboot on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 10:27am
::)

What a stupid thread. I'm glad all the members can see who the idiots are.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 10:33am

The Reboot wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 10:27am:
::)

What a stupid thread. I'm glad all the members can see who the idiots are.



Nothing stupid about it.  It is right on point.  There is cods over at the sewer providing advice to freediver about how he ought to run OzPol JUST to keep cods happy.

Nah.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 11:25am
Cods,
you can't get away from him.
Remember once there were at least 5 threads on the front page of the Sandpit
over at Monk's zoo, all dedicated to denigrating you?
Aussie & Monk have a thing about you -
it's unmanly - it reeks of some type of vicious homosexuality.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 12:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 11:25am:
Cods,
you can't get away from him.
Remember once there were at least 5 threads on the front page of the Sandpit
over at Monk's zoo, all dedicated to denigrating you?
Aussie & Monk have a thing about you -
it's unmanly - it reeks of some type of vicious homosexuality.


Can you name any member, past or present, who has had more threads dedicated to them than me?


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 12:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 11:25am:
Cods,
you can't get away from him.
Remember once there were at least 5 threads on the front page of the Sandpit
over at Monk's zoo, all dedicated to denigrating you?
Aussie & Monk have a thing about you -
it's unmanly - it reeks of some type of vicious homosexuality.


Jayzuz, you are full of schit Bobby.  I thought what you posted was bullshit so I went and checked.  Going all the way back to Page 17 of the Sandpit (back to Jan 12, 2015) there is.....ONE THREAD.........ONE....in which the Thread Title includes the name 'cods.'  That is on Page 6 and the Thread Title is 'cods.'

Why do you lie about these things which are so easy to prove wrong?

::)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 12:56pm

Quote:
I was asked   not to reply to a certain member here   in no uncertain term either....so since then I never! have  never even looked in his board...I know when I am not wanted....


That sounds awfully like someone was heavying and threatening you cods.  Is that true?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 1:23pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 12:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 11:25am:
Cods,
you can't get away from him.
Remember once there were at least 5 threads on the front page of the Sandpit
over at Monk's zoo, all dedicated to denigrating you?
Aussie & Monk have a thing about you -
it's unmanly - it reeks of some type of vicious homosexuality.


Jayzuz, you are full of schit Bobby.  I thought what you posted was bullshit so I went and checked.  Going all the way back to Page 17 of the Sandpit (back to Jan 12, 2015) there is.....ONE THREAD.........ONE....in which the Thread Title includes the name 'cods.'  That is on Page 6 and the Thread Title is 'cods.'

Why do you lie about these things which are so easy to prove wrong?

::)



Aussie - I clearly remember it.
It was remarked on by many people as ridiculous
and a perfect example of the abuse of a member here.
If I feel like it I'll chase it down myself.
BTW - you were right there sticking the boots in.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 1:27pm
Go find it Bobby.  I have looked back to Page 17.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 2:30pm
::) ::)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 2:32pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 2:30pm:
::) ::)


Is there some point you'd like to make Mr Neck?



Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 4:07pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 1:27pm:
Go find it Bobby.  I have looked back to Page 17.


How'd you go Curly?  Did you find out that you posted bullshit?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 5:42pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 2:32pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 2:30pm:
::) ::)


Is there some point you'd like to make Mr Neck?



Says it all ,imo!




;)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:04pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 4:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 1:27pm:
Go find it Bobby.  I have looked back to Page 17.


How'd you go Curly?  Did you find out that you posted bullshit?



Aussie,
I don't lie.
They are there -  only the first one is still in the Sandpit -
the others are now moved to archives.
Who did that?
These are just a few that I easily found.
The thread titles are in bold.

(1) cods

      Postby johnsmith » 31 Jul 2018, 09:52

(2) Re: The Batshit Crazy Awards

      Postby mothra » 06 Jun 2018, 20:44

(3) The sun is over the yardarm for Cods

     Postby Squire » 31 Jul 2018, 21:37

(4) A clue for Cods ... start thinking outside the box

     Postby Squire » 24 Aug 2018, 14:04

(5) Re: The Vicious Old Fishwife Awards

     Postby mothra » 19 Aug 2018, 13:32

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:20pm
Oh...so you sent me on a wild goose chase. They could not be found in the Sandpit, as you asserted.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:22pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:20pm:
Oh...so you sent me on a wild goose chase. They could not be found in the Sandpit, as you asserted.


Did you move them to make it difficult to find them?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:20pm:
Oh...so you sent me on a wild goose chase. They could not be found in the Sandpit, as you asserted.


Did you move them to make it difficult to find them?


No.

But......I had a look at The Batshit Crazy Awards.  I was hardly 'right in there' as you suggested, and it was not a Thread dedicated to cods.

I'll now look at the others to find proof that you lied.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:35pm
A clue for cods.

I made ONE post having nothing to do with cods.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:38pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:20pm:
Oh...so you sent me on a wild goose chase. They could not be found in the Sandpit, as you asserted.


Did you move them to make it difficult to find them?


No.

But......I had a look at The Batshit Crazy Awards.  I was hardly 'right in there' as you suggested, and it was not a Thread dedicated to cods.

I'll now look at the others to find proof that you lied.



You were a nicer in that thread -
how about this one?


Re: The Vicious Old Fishwife Awards


Quote:
Postby Aussie » 19 Aug 2018, 20:37

    HBS Guy wrote:
   [quote] Is it not amazing how cods whinges in Tavern and Fringe where we are all banned.

    So brave of cods.




I say....'so very cowardly and typical' of cods. As Mothra says.....she can post here, but like all cowards, she posts where her prey have no right of reply. Weak as piss, she is. Or....she can prove me wrong, grow some balls and post her attack where those she attacks can reply.[/quote]

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:38pm
Here is the The sun is over the yardarm for Cods thread.



Link.

Where am I right in there abusing (or otherwise) cods, Bobby?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:40pm
What about this one?


Re: The sun is over the yardarm for Cods


Quote:
Postby Aussie » 31 Jul 2018, 21:47

   [quote] Squire wrote:
    Cods appears to have taken offense at the expression 'the sun is over the yardarm' as if it can only refer to her and demean her for alcohol consumption from wine boxes.

    That's a lot to infer from a simple sentence unless it is indeed true.

    I have received a warning from Black Orchid about this expression amongst other non-vulgar expressions that Cods and others don't like.

    Cods' toes have grown an extra meter in length and I need to modify the expression to 'the sun is over Cods' toes'.

    The very people denouncing political correctness are demanding others be politically correct to them.



Tell her to **** off. She is nothing at OzPol.....but, having said that.....best to be sparing in using that accusation against cods.
[/quote]

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:20pm:
Oh...so you sent me on a wild goose chase. They could not be found in the Sandpit, as you asserted.


Did you move them to make it difficult to find them?


No.

But......I had a look at The Batshit Crazy Awards.  I was hardly 'right in there' as you suggested, and it was not a Thread dedicated to cods.

I'll now look at the others to find proof that you lied.



You were a nicer in that thread -
how about this one?


Re: The Vicious Old Fishwife Awards


Quote:
Postby Aussie » 19 Aug 2018, 20:37

    HBS Guy wrote:
   [quote] Is it not amazing how cods whinges in Tavern and Fringe where we are all banned.

    So brave of cods.




I say....'so very cowardly and typical' of cods. As Mothra says.....she can post here, but like all cowards, she posts where her prey have no right of reply. Weak as piss, she is. Or....she can prove me wrong, grow some balls and post her attack where those she attacks can reply.
[/quote]

Entirely accurate.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:45pm
I cannot find the other Threads you refer to in Archives.

So...Bobby.....how many Threads are there vilifying me in Sparta, including Threads where you and cods were 'right in there?'

8-)

Cods can expect zero from me after her stupid attempt at character assassination with her comment there that I am a 'scab, a cheat and a liar.'

She wears that badge and deserves all the accolades (or otherwise) which come out of it.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:46pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 12:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 11:25am:
Cods,
you can't get away from him.
Remember once there were at least 5 threads on the front page of the Sandpit
over at Monk's zoo, all dedicated to denigrating you?

Aussie & Monk have a thing about you -
it's unmanly - it reeks of some type of vicious homosexuality.


Jayzuz, you are full of schit Bobby.  I thought what you posted was bullshit so I went and checked.  Going all the way back to Page 17 of the Sandpit (back to Jan 12, 2015) there is.....ONE THREAD.........ONE....in which the Thread Title includes the name 'cods.'  That is on Page 6 and the Thread Title is 'cods.'

Why do you lie about these things which are so easy to prove wrong?

::)



So Aussie,
I've proven you wrong.
Are you now willing to apologise to Cods for all that abuse?

Will you apologise to me for calling me a liar?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:55pm
You did lie on two counts.

1.  The Threads were not in Sandpit.
2.  I was not 'right in there' in any of them.

Cods is harvesting the seeds she sowed.  No-one gets to refer to me as a scab, a cheat and a liar and not get return fire....ten fold.

Ya leave lions/bears alone, Bobby.  Piss them off, and look out.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:58pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 6:55pm:
You did lie on two counts.

1.  The Threads were not in Sandpit.
2.  I was not 'right in there' in any of them.

Cods is harvesting the seeds she sowed.  No-one gets to refer to me as a scab, a cheat and a liar and not get return fire....ten fold.

Ya leave lions/bears alone, Bobby.  Piss them off, and look out.



It's not my fault that the threads I remembered that were in the Sandpit
had been moved to archives.

You were right in there - sticking the boots in -
as a metaphor.

You're the one harvesting the seeds you sowed.

Now - start apologising -
I've got you on the hook this time.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:13pm
Post the links, Bobby.


Quote:
You were right in there - sticking the boots in -
as a metaphor.


Whatever you can accuse me of....I can say this....

I did whatever I did in public, and not behind anyone's back.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:17pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:13pm:
Post the links, Bobby.


Quote:
You were right in there - sticking the boots in -
as a metaphor.


Whatever you can accuse me of....I can say this....

I did whatever I did in public, and not behind anyone's back.



Aussie,
I'm not posting anymore -
that wouldn't be fair to Cods -
2 examples were enough to prove my point.

You apologise or forever be known as dishonorable.
Don't call me a liar ever again.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:26pm
Liar.

Post the links.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:26pm

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:31pm
More dishonorable activity from Aussie -
he still hasn't answered this:


"Did you register a username at
www.polanimal.com/forum/
using the same email address that you used at Ozpol to register a new username? Yes or No?"


"Did you register a username at
www.polanimal.com/forum/

containing the following letters (not including quotation marks) "Setanta"? Yes or no?"

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:34pm
You are yet to answer my question, Bobby.  The instant you do, you will get an immediate and totally responsive answer.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:36pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:34pm:
You are yet to answer my question, Bobby.  The instant you do, you will get an immediate and totally responsive answer.



Stop playing silly games Aussie.
You've got a lot to answer for.


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:34pm:
You are yet to answer my question, Bobby.  The instant you do, you will get an immediate and totally responsive answer.



Stop playing silly games Aussie.
You've got a lot to answer for.


So you say Bobby....just like you said that I was 'right in there' getting up cods in Threads about her in Sandpit.

All lies.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:50pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:34pm:
You are yet to answer my question, Bobby.  The instant you do, you will get an immediate and totally responsive answer.



Stop playing silly games Aussie.
You've got a lot to answer for.


So you say Bobby....just like you said that I was 'right in there' getting up cods in Threads about her in Sandpit.

All lies.



How disingenuous - it was in the Sandpit but it was moved -
and that's the 3rd time I told you -
and what's more -
you're probably the one who moved it after you saw my allegation at the real polanimal.
( you know - the one that you monitor all the time)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:34pm:
You are yet to answer my question, Bobby.  The instant you do, you will get an immediate and totally responsive answer.



Stop playing silly games Aussie.
You've got a lot to answer for.


So you say Bobby....just like you said that I was 'right in there' getting up cods in Threads about her in Sandpit.

All lies.



How disingenuous - it was in the Sandpit but it was moved -
and that's the 3rd time I told you -
and what's more -
you're probably the one who moved it after you saw my allegation at the real polanimal.
( you know - the one that you monitor all the time)


Maybe you should have checked where they were before you mouthed off then, Bobby?  And.....I did not move them.

What allegation as it that you made at the 'real polanimal' sewer, Bobby?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 8:02pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 7:34pm:
You are yet to answer my question, Bobby.  The instant you do, you will get an immediate and totally responsive answer.



Stop playing silly games Aussie.
You've got a lot to answer for.


So you say Bobby....just like you said that I was 'right in there' getting up cods in Threads about her in Sandpit.

All lies.



How disingenuous - it was in the Sandpit but it was moved -
and that's the 3rd time I told you -
and what's more -
you're probably the one who moved it after you saw my allegation at the real polanimal.
( you know - the one that you monitor all the time)


Maybe you should have checked where they were before you mouthed off then, Bobby?  And.....I did not move them.

What allegation as it that you made at the 'real polanimal' sewer, Bobby?



The same allegation I made here - copied and pasted:

http://www.polanimal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=16012&start=50


Quote:
Cods,
you can't get away from him.
Remember once there were at least 5 threads on the front page of the Sandpit
over at Monk's zoo, all dedicated to denigrating you?
Aussie & Monk have a thing about you -
it's unmanly - it reeks of some type of vicious homosexuality.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 8:53pm
And that is a lie Bobby.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 8:58pm

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by .JaSin. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:05pm
Peckerhead is a Turd McTurdface... as everybody knows.  ;)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:09pm

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by .JaSin. on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:09pm:


You got a fascination with little boys and an attraction for little boy memes, eh Peckerhead?

Maybe Arsewipe can teach you how to pin them to trees.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 5:53am

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:09pm:


You got a fascination with little boys and an attraction for little boy memes, eh Peckerhead?

Maybe Arsewipe can teach you how to pin them to trees.


Is this allowed in this forum?

Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:45am

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:09pm:


You got a fascination with little boys and an attraction for little boy memes, eh Peckerhead?

Maybe Arsewipe can teach you how to pin them to trees.


JaSin.....cease that paedo innuendo.  I will refer that to Setanta for GMod consideration.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:09am
Donald is after Aussie.
Aussie_is_a_liar_and_a_cheat.jpg (49 KB | 32 )

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 2:17pm
Oh, how ever so cute, Bobby.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 3:25pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 2:17pm:
Oh, how ever so cute, Bobby.



I'm waiting for you to show remorse.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 3:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 2:17pm:
Oh, how ever so cute, Bobby.



I'm waiting for you to show remorse.


Let me know when Hell freezes over.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by .JaSin. on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:17pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:45am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:09pm:


You got a fascination with little boys and an attraction for little boy memes, eh Peckerhead?

Maybe Arsewipe can teach you how to pin them to trees.


JaSin.....cease that paedo innuendo.  I will refer that to Setanta for GMod consideration.


Don't barf out GMOD considerations when I wasn't the one posting piccies of little kiddies like your mate Peckerhead was.
I would love to have seen you in court telling the jury that the Blue exhibit A is really Red, but they just don't know that. It would be a real laugh.  ;D

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:32pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:17pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:45am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:09pm:


You got a fascination with little boys and an attraction for little boy memes, eh Peckerhead?

Maybe Arsewipe can teach you how to pin them to trees.


JaSin.....cease that paedo innuendo.  I will refer that to Setanta for GMod consideration.


Don't barf out GMOD considerations when I wasn't the one posting piccies of little kiddies like your mate Peckerhead was.
I would love to have seen you in court telling the jury that the Blue exhibit A is really Red, but they just don't know that. It would be a real laugh.  ;D


JaSin....cease posting in Relationships until further notice.  I will send you a PM and cc to FD and the GMods.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:59pm
An open ended suspension is more friendly?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:05pm

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:59pm:
An open ended suspension is more friendly?


Yes...if FD/GMods act on the complaints received, I will marry my suspension with theirs BUT add a week to it.  If they don't act...well that leaves it up to me here in Relationships.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Redmond Neck on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:08pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:32pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:17pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:45am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 22nd, 2019 at 9:09pm:


You got a fascination with little boys and an attraction for little boy memes, eh Peckerhead?

Maybe Arsewipe can teach you how to pin them to trees.


JaSin.....cease that paedo innuendo.  I will refer that to Setanta for GMod consideration.


Don't barf out GMOD considerations when I wasn't the one posting piccies of little kiddies like your mate Peckerhead was.
I would love to have seen you in court telling the jury that the Blue exhibit A is really Red, but they just don't know that. It would be a real laugh.  ;D


JaSin....cease posting in Relationships until further notice.  I will send you a PM and cc to FD and the GMods.



Poor old Aussie has no friends at all it seems!

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:34pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:05pm:
Yes...if FD/GMods act on the complaints received, I will marry my suspension with theirs BUT add a week to it.  If they don't act...well that leaves it up to me here in Relationships.



So an extra week on top of nothing? That doesn't seem to be open ended.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:36pm

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:34pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:05pm:
Yes...if FD/GMods act on the complaints received, I will marry my suspension with theirs BUT add a week to it.  If they don't act...well that leaves it up to me here in Relationships.



So an extra week on top of nothing? That doesn't seem to be open ended.


Whatever the GMods do.....is what they do.  What I do here is what I do.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Setanta on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:02pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:36pm:

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:34pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:05pm:
Yes...if FD/GMods act on the complaints received, I will marry my suspension with theirs BUT add a week to it.  If they don't act...well that leaves it up to me here in Relationships.



So an extra week on top of nothing? That doesn't seem to be open ended.


Whatever the GMods do.....is what they do.  What I do here is what I do.


Has the penny finally dropped? ::)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:03pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:36pm:
Whatever the GMods do.....is what they do.  What I do here is what I do.



yes petal precious. But even lifers only get 20 years, not some open ended non-defined penalty.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Setanta on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:13pm

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:36pm:
Whatever the GMods do.....is what they do.  What I do here is what I do.



yes petal precious. But even lifers only get 20 years, not some open ended non-defined penalty.


This forum(ozpolitic.com) is private property, it is not a democracy and there are no courts. I'm not trying to be argumentative, it's just a fact. Sometimes even Aussie fails to appreciate that. MRBs belong to the mod of the MRB, they make the rules beyond the forum wide rules. I'm not saying I agree with that, I'd probably do things differently if this forum was my property but it's not, nevertheless that is how things stand and I see no change coming.


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 10:26pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:13pm:
This forum(ozpolitic.com) is private property, it is not a democracy and there are no courts.



And that I fully understand. However natural justice only exists outside the court system.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 7:22am

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 10:26pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:13pm:
This forum(ozpolitic.com) is private property, it is not a democracy and there are no courts.



And that I fully understand. However natural justice only exists outside the court system.



Natural justice? What is that?

Sounds like an excuse for thuggery to me.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 7:31am

Setanta wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:13pm:

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:36pm:
Whatever the GMods do.....is what they do.  What I do here is what I do.



yes petal precious. But even lifers only get 20 years, not some open ended non-defined penalty.


This forum(ozpolitic.com) is private property, it is not a democracy and there are no courts. I'm not trying to be argumentative, it's just a fact. Sometimes even Aussie fails to appreciate that. MRBs belong to the mod of the MRB, they make the rules beyond the forum wide rules. I'm not saying I agree with that, I'd probably do things differently if this forum was my property but it's not, nevertheless that is how things stand and I see no change coming.



Yet there are rules.

And these rules are arbitrarily enforced; not enforced at all; or enforced solely at the whim of either absent or questionable GMods.

The owner of the site has clearly given up.

So "the rules' change and'or only apply to certain posters or at certain times. There are rules on overt racism which have been clearly forgotten  yet you can be banned for not quoting someone correctly, although Freediver does it all the time.

And i know you think we should jest be okay with that but perhaps members seeing violations of the rules have questions

You just taunt them in packs though

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:07am
In my time here, i've wathed this forum slowly degenerate.

For example, Jasin wouldn't have lasted a week a few years ago . and yet he is cited by Bobby now as being a "good poster".

This is the guy who said he wanted to punch me in face and shove his hand down my pants.

Just imagine if Aussie had said that. We'd have threads on it. All of them joining in and throwing projectiles. But for me? From one of them?

And had John or Greg said it? They'd be banned.

But it's all about 'sides' now.. not about the quality of exchange.

And the forum disintegrates.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:12am

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:07am:
In my time here, i've wathed this forum slowly degenerate.

For example, Jasin wouldn't have lasted a week a few years ago . and yet he is cited by Bobby now as being a "good poster".

This is the guy who said he wanted to punch me in face and shove his hand down my pants.

Just imagine if Aussie had said that. We'd have threads on it. All of them joining in and throwing projectiles. But for me? From one of them?

And had John or Greg said it? They'd be banned.

But it's all about 'sides' now.. not about the quality of exchange.

And the forum disintegrates.



Go back to Monk's zoo if you don't like it here.
You're not a POM are you? - you whinger.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:16am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:12am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:07am:
In my time here, i've wathed this forum slowly degenerate.

For example, Jasin wouldn't have lasted a week a few years ago . and yet he is cited by Bobby now as being a "good poster".

This is the guy who said he wanted to punch me in face and shove his hand down my pants.

Just imagine if Aussie had said that. We'd have threads on it. All of them joining in and throwing projectiles. But for me? From one of them?

And had John or Greg said it? They'd be banned.

But it's all about 'sides' now.. not about the quality of exchange.

And the forum disintegrates.



Go back to Monk's zoo if you don't like it here.
You're not a POM are you? - you winger.




Do you like women being told they will punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Gobby?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am
Furthermore, do ever complain about anything here?

Ever?

Is there somewhere else you could go where your needs are better met?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:19am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.



No that;'s Jasin, to me, here on Ozpol.

You know Jasin. You say he's a great poster.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:21am
No moderator on Monk's forum would allow that

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.



No that;'s Jasin, to me, here on Ozpol.

You know Jasin. You say he's a great poster.



Please provide links.
I was enjoying many of his posts -
he can be quite a wordsmith.
He's gone now - Aussie has chased him away.
Slowly but surely Aussie is driving all our members away.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.



No that;'s Jasin, to me, here on Ozpol.

You know Jasin. You say he's a great poster.



Please provide links.
I was enjoying many of his posts -
he can be quite a wordsmith.
He's gone now - Aussie has chased him away.
Slowly but surely Aussie is driving all our members away.


Do you think you'll go soon?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:27am

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 7:36pm:
Whatever the GMods do.....is what they do.  What I do here is what I do.



yes petal precious. But even lifers only get 20 years, not some open ended non-defined penalty.


Actually lifers get life. That was changed some time ago and the ppl in jail for life arent getting out.

Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:30am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.



No that;'s Jasin, to me, here on Ozpol.

You know Jasin. You say he's a great poster.



Please provide links.
I was enjoying many of his posts -
he can be quite a wordsmith.
He's gone now - Aussie has chased him away.
Slowly but surely Aussie is driving all our members away.


Chased him away? Did you see what he was doing?

Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:35am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.



No that;'s Jasin, to me, here on Ozpol.

You know Jasin. You say he's a great poster.



Please provide links.
I was enjoying many of his posts -
he can be quite a wordsmith.
He's gone now - Aussie has chased him away.
Slowly but surely Aussie is driving all our members away.


Chased him away? Did you see what he was doing?

Spot



What about his "mate" Greggy?
Did you see the pic that he posted?
Aussie allowed that then booted JaSin for doing the same.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:36am

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.



No that;'s Jasin, to me, here on Ozpol.

You know Jasin. You say he's a great poster.



Please provide links.
I was enjoying many of his posts -
he can be quite a wordsmith.
He's gone now - Aussie has chased him away.
Slowly but surely Aussie is driving all our members away.


Do you think you'll go soon?



I'm not going anytime soon.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:41am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:36am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.



No that;'s Jasin, to me, here on Ozpol.

You know Jasin. You say he's a great poster.



Please provide links.
I was enjoying many of his posts -
he can be quite a wordsmith.
He's gone now - Aussie has chased him away.
Slowly but surely Aussie is driving all our members away.


Do you think you'll go soon?



I'm not going anytime soon.



Bummer. I guess Aussie isn't really that intimidating.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:44am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.



No that;'s Jasin, to me, here on Ozpol.

You know Jasin. You say he's a great poster.



Please provide links.
I was enjoying many of his posts -
he can be quite a wordsmith.
He's gone now - Aussie has chased him away.
Slowly but surely Aussie is driving all our members away.


Chased him away? Did you see what he was doing?

Spot



What about his "mate" Greggy?
Did you see the pic that he posted?
Aussie allowed that then booted JaSin for doing the same.


The picture was a widely used meme that describes incredulousness.

Don;t blame Greg because you are completely out of touch with the youth culture of 10 years ago.

What's more, there was nothing in the meme Grag used that was suggestive of paedophilia. Jasin did that all on his own.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by DonDeeHippy on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:00am

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:44am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.



No that;'s Jasin, to me, here on Ozpol.

You know Jasin. You say he's a great poster.



Please provide links.
I was enjoying many of his posts -
he can be quite a wordsmith.
He's gone now - Aussie has chased him away.
Slowly but surely Aussie is driving all our members away.


Chased him away? Did you see what he was doing?

Spot



What about his "mate" Greggy?
Did you see the pic that he posted?
Aussie allowed that then booted JaSin for doing the same.


The picture was a widely used meme that describes incredulousness.

Don;t blame Greg because you are completely out of touch with the youth culture of 10 years ago.

What's more, there was nothing in the meme Grag used that was suggestive of paedophilia. Jasin did that all on his own.

;) couldn't agree more

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:23am
how if the meme Greg put up anything to do with paedophilia?

Only a moron would make such a claim.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:41am

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:23am:
how if the meme Greg put up anything to do with paedophilia?

Only a moron would make such a claim.


Moron explains Jasin

Agenda describes Booby.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:44am

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:41am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:23am:
how if the meme Greg put up anything to do with paedophilia?

Only a moron would make such a claim.


Moron explains Jasin

Agenda describes Booby.


Actually I think it's the other way around. Jasin is the one with the agenda. He's been snipping from the sidelines, hoping to be welcomed back as one of the sewer gang, for ages.

Goober is the moron.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by mothra on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:52am

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:44am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:41am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:23am:
how if the meme Greg put up anything to do with paedophilia?

Only a moron would make such a claim.


Moron explains Jasin

Agenda describes Booby.


Actually I think it's the other way around. Jasin is the one with the agenda. He's been snipping from the sidelines, hoping to be welcomed back as one of the sewer gang, for ages.

Goober is the moron.



I think we can agree that both of them are idiots, yes?

But i ascertain that Jasin is several degrees detatched from reality. His claim that Greg posting a meme of a young child meant Greg was a paedophile probably makes sense to him. He's simply that delusional.

Gobby, on the other hand, while being qa very dim bulb is not all the way stupid enough to draw that long a bow He's just a nasty, mincing little opportunist.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:57am
i can agree with that! 8-)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:47am
Wow - would you look at this -
all of Aussie's sucks - all together on the same page defending Aussie.
What a bunch of well trained sycophants.

Guys - he doesn't need you -
Aussie is big enough and ugly enough to defend himself.   ;D

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by The Reboot on Feb 24th, 2019 at 11:37am

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:47am:
ll of Aussie's sucks - all together on the same page defending Aussie.



who mentioned Aussie?  ::) ::) ::)

See, that's part of your problem, not only are you to stupid to understand what's written in front of you, but you also have Aussie on the brain.

He should be charging you rent.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by DonDeeHippy on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:19pm
that's obviously sexist… I mean look at those curves its just a excuse to objectify women..... :o

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:19pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:19pm:
that's obviously sexist… I mean look at those curves its just a excuse to objectify women..... :o


;D ;D

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by DonDeeHippy on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:25pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:47am:
ll of Aussie's sucks - all together on the same page defending Aussie.



who mentioned Aussie?  ::) ::) ::)

See, that's part of your problem, not only are you to stupid to understand what's written in front of you, but you also have Aussie on the brain.

He should be charging you rent.

he is even bringing Aussie into a discussion on Offshore Windfarms  :D :D :D :o

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:31pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:47am:
ll of Aussie's sucks - all together on the same page defending Aussie.



who mentioned Aussie?  ::) ::) ::)

See, that's part of your problem, not only are you to stupid to understand what's written in front of you, but you also have Aussie on the brain.

He should be charging you rent.

he is even bringing Aussie into a discussion on Offshore Windfarms  :D :D :D :o


the sewer rats always do it. It's not just goober, it's all of them. Then it's aussies fault for defending himself.

It was the same at the sewer when I used to be on there. I got in their bad books, and eventually banned, because I wouldn't join in. ::)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 24th, 2019 at 1:52pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:27am:

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:03pm:
[quote author=Aussie link=1550745928/61#61 date=1550914570]Whatever the GMods do.....is what they do.  What I do here is what I do.



yes petal precious. But even lifers only get 20 years, not some open ended non-defined penalty.

Actually lifers get life. That was changed some time ago and the ppl in jail for life arent getting out.

Spot


"A murderer who bashed his lover to death in a meth-fuelled rage and tried to cover his tracks by setting fire to the man’s house has been jailed for at least 20 years over the “brutal and merciless attack”."

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/court-justice/wa-man-lane-mitchell-gets-life-sentence-for-murder-of-gay-lover-ng-b881043714z

Dated Dec 2018

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 24th, 2019 at 1:55pm

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 7:22am:

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 10:26pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:13pm:
This forum(ozpolitic.com) is private property, it is not a democracy and there are no courts.



And that I fully understand. However natural justice only exists outside the court system.



Natural justice? What is that?

Sounds like an excuse for thuggery to me.


It is supposed to be the underpinnings of most law. However, in court, it is generally the best lawyer wins.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 24th, 2019 at 2:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:35am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:23am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Do you like it when women you don't like are told they are to be punched in the face and have hands thrust down their pants, Bobby?



I wasn't aware of posts like that at Monk's zoo.
Tell Monk off for allowing it not me.



No that;'s Jasin, to me, here on Ozpol.

You know Jasin. You say he's a great poster.



Please provide links.
I was enjoying many of his posts -
he can be quite a wordsmith.
He's gone now - Aussie has chased him away.
Slowly but surely Aussie is driving all our members away.


Chased him away? Did you see what he was doing?

Spot



What about his "mate" Greggy?
Did you see the pic that he posted?
Aussie allowed that then booted JaSin for doing the same.


Theere was nothing wrong with the picture Greg posted. Did you really see something inappropriate? Perhaps you should see about getting some inkblot therapy? I dunno. That meme is all over the place.

Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 24th, 2019 at 2:20pm

lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 1:52pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 8:27am:

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:03pm:
[quote author=Aussie link=1550745928/61#61 date=1550914570]Whatever the GMods do.....is what they do.  What I do here is what I do.



yes petal precious. But even lifers only get 20 years, not some open ended non-defined penalty.

Actually lifers get life. That was changed some time ago and the ppl in jail for life arent getting out.

Spot


"A murderer who bashed his lover to death in a meth-fuelled rage and tried to cover his tracks by setting fire to the man’s house has been jailed for at least 20 years over the “brutal and merciless attack”."

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/court-justice/wa-man-lane-mitchell-gets-life-sentence-for-murder-of-gay-lover-ng-b881043714z

Dated Dec 2018


Yup. Doesn't say he got life. If he got life he wouldn't get out. I don't know why he didn't get life but he didn't. They changed it some years ago that if you get 'life's you don't ever get out. Something to do with the truth in sentencing thing.


Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:02pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
If he got life he wouldn't get out.



In Queensland there is no "life sentence" for murder.

"Murder—also called homicide—is the wilful killing of a person with intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm. However, it does not include dangerous driving causing death—the unlawful killing of a person as a result of dangerous or negligent driving without intent to kill. This is a different offence and has a maximum penalty of 14 years in prison.

If a person has a previous murder conviction or has been found guilty of multiple murders the minimum sentence is 30 years in prison.

If a person knowingly murders a police officer the minimum sentence is 30 25 years in prison."

https://www.qld.gov.au/law/crime-and-police/types-of-crime/murder-attempted-murder-and-manslaughter

Dated 2017

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:05pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
If he got life he wouldn't get out



There is no such thing as a life sentence in this country.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:09pm

lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:02pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
If he got life he wouldn't get out.



In Queensland there is no "life sentence" for murder.

"Murder—also called homicide—is the wilful killing of a person with intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm. However, it does not include dangerous driving causing death—the unlawful killing of a person as a result of dangerous or negligent driving without intent to kill. This is a different offence and has a maximum penalty of 14 years in prison.

If a person has a previous murder conviction or has been found guilty of multiple murders the minimum sentence is 30 years in prison.

If a person knowingly murders a police officer the minimum sentence is 30 25 years in prison."

https://www.qld.gov.au/law/crime-and-police/types-of-crime/murder-attempted-murder-and-manslaughter

Dated 2017


Rubbish.  There are mandatory provisions that a 'life sentence' must be imposed.  Judge has done his job.  "Life."

Then, it is over to parole boards to determine if there should be an early release.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:16pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:05pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
If he got life he wouldn't get out



There is no such thing as a life sentence in this country.


Roger Roberson got life. So did that guy that just died. They will never get out. Apparently life sentences are given out sparingly because of the truth in sentencing thing but they do happen. Do you think Ivan milat will ever get out?

I don't know about qld with the life sentence but I was not saying anything about mandatory sentences. I was speaking if the sentence of life.

Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:17pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:09pm:
Rubbish.  There are mandatory provisions that a 'life sentence' must be imposed.  Judge has done his job.  "Life."


"An adult who is found guilty of murder must be sentenced to life imprisonment unless:

    A life sentence would clearly be unjust in the circumstances; and
    The person is unlikely to be a threat to the safety of the community when released (in which case the person must be imprisoned for 20 years)."

https://www.gotocourt.com.au/criminal-law/wa/murder-homicide-offences/

Criminal law WA.

See that "unless"; that is the out. And that makes it a non-mandatory sentence.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:19pm

lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:17pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:09pm:
Rubbish.  There are mandatory provisions that a 'life sentence' must be imposed.  Judge has done his job.  "Life."


"An adult who is found guilty of murder must be sentenced to life imprisonment unless:

    A life sentence would clearly be unjust in the circumstances; and
    The person is unlikely to be a threat to the safety of the community when released (in which case the person must be imprisoned for 20 years)."

https://www.gotocourt.com.au/criminal-law/wa/murder-homicide-offences/

Criminal law WA.

See that "unless"; that is the out. And that makes it a non-mandatory sentence.


Jayzuz, the goal posts moved from Qld to WA. Well done, Lee.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:22pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:02pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
If he got life he wouldn't get out.



In Queensland there is no "life sentence" for murder.

"Murder—also called homicide—is the wilful killing of a person with intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm. However, it does not include dangerous driving causing death—the unlawful killing of a person as a result of dangerous or negligent driving without intent to kill. This is a different offence and has a maximum penalty of 14 years in prison.

If a person has a previous murder conviction or has been found guilty of multiple murders the minimum sentence is 30 years in prison.

If a person knowingly murders a police officer the minimum sentence is 30 25 years in prison."

https://www.qld.gov.au/law/crime-and-police/types-of-crime/murder-attempted-murder-and-manslaughter

Dated 2017


Rubbish.  There are mandatory provisions that a 'life sentence' must be imposed.  Judge has done his job.  "Life."

Then, it is over to parole boards to determine if there should be an early release.


There is no parole if it's not said in the sentencing eg 25 years to life.

Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:23pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:16pm:
Roger Roberson got life.



in reality they'll let him out on parole after 20 or 25 years , unless he's serving other sentences for corruption, extortion etc


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:16pm:
Do you think Ivan molar will ever get out?


Milat is serving 7 life sentences. If he lives to 180 they might let him out  :D :D

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:29pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:16pm:
Roger Roberson got life.



in reality they'll let him out on parole after 20 or 25 years , unless he's serving other sentences for corruption, extortion etc


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:16pm:
Do you think Ivan molar will ever get out?


Milat is serving 7 life sentences. If he lives to 180 they might let him out  :D :D


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_in_sentencing

OK seems it's just nsw?

Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:45pm
Also Victoria, NSW, Tasmania and ACT have life imprisonment as a maximum.
https://law.adelaide.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/homicide_sentencing_background_research_paper_20180620.pdf

Table1

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:49pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
Jayzuz, the goal posts moved from Qld to WA. Well done, Lee.


But I started out in WA. ;)

But you didn't show I was wrong in Queensland either.

No one state was mentioned as to whether there was "life".

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:53pm

lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
Jayzuz, the goal posts moved from Qld to WA. Well done, Lee.


But I started out in WA. ;)

But you didn't show I was wrong in Queensland either.

No one state was mentioned as to whether there was "life".


You can slip, you can slide, do your usual tapdance, and you get nowhere.  I told you what the situation was in Qld.


Quote:
Rubbish.  There are mandatory provisions that a 'life sentence' must be imposed.  Judge has done his job.  "Life."

Then, it is over to parole boards to determine if there should be an early release.


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:55pm

lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
Jayzuz, the goal posts moved from Qld to WA. Well done, Lee.


But I started out in WA. ;)

But you didn't show I was wrong in Queensland either.

No one state was mentioned as to whether there was "life".


When I made my statement I thought it was Australia wise but it's definitely new where life is life. Therefore there is a true life sentence in Australia though it may be just in nsw.

Spot

PS sorry about all the wrong words it's this stupid phone

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:13pm
Don't worry about the words.

NSW has, according to the paper from a couple of posts ago, a maximum of life.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:13pm

lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:13pm:
Don't worry about the words.

NSW has, according to the paper from a couple of posts ago, a maximum of life.


So does Qld.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:19pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:13pm:
So does Qld.



No petal. According to the paper Queensland has a MANDATORY life sentence, You do understand the difference?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:20pm

lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:13pm:
So does Qld.



No petal. According to the paper Queensland has a MANDATORY life sentence, You do understand the difference?


Far cough.  If you cannot address me properly, I will not address you at all.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by lee on Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:24pm
Yes your tumescence. I was merely trying to be more friendly. ;)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:47pm
I can't read the PDF on here for some reason. If the thread is still going in the morning I'll take a look

Spot

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by The Reboot on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:50pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:19pm:
that's obviously sexist… I mean look at those curves its just a excuse to objectify women..... :o


Post of the day.  ;D


John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:31pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:47am:
ll of Aussie's sucks - all together on the same page defending Aussie.



who mentioned Aussie?  ::) ::) ::)

See, that's part of your problem, not only are you to stupid to understand what's written in front of you, but you also have Aussie on the brain.

He should be charging you rent.

he is even bringing Aussie into a discussion on Offshore Windfarms  :D :D :D :o


the sewer rats always do it. It's not just goober, it's all of them. Then it's aussies fault for defending himself.

It was the same at the sewer when I used to be on there. I got in their bad books, and eventually banned, because I wouldn't join in. ::)


Actually I am at "the sewer" and I find Bobby's obsession with Aussie pathetic, cringe-worthy and borderline creepy. I don't think I'm alone in that opinion, either. Especially coupled with poofter comments  :P

But what can you do? He's a big boy, he makes his own decisions.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:17pm

The Reboot wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:50pm:
Actually I am at "the sewer" and I find Bobby's obsession with Aussie pathetic, cringe-worthy and borderline creepy. I don't think I'm alone in that opinion, either. Especially coupled with poofter comments  Tongue

But what can you do? He's a big boy, he makes his own decisions.



It's not just goober. Cods for one, was another one who always had to invoke Aussies name. No matter what you were discussing. It was ridiculous. There were others.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by cods on Feb 25th, 2019 at 7:36am

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

The Reboot wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:50pm:
Actually I am at "the sewer" and I find Bobby's obsession with Aussie pathetic, cringe-worthy and borderline creepy. I don't think I'm alone in that opinion, either. Especially coupled with poofter comments  Tongue

But what can you do? He's a big boy, he makes his own decisions.



It's not just goober. Cods for one, was another one who always had to invoke Aussies name. No matter what you were discussing. It was ridiculous. There were others.



yes I have done my share in the past..

not as often as you have used my name... and never to post threads using his name either.. ::) ::)

now all I have asked is to be left alone...you leave me alone I usually return the favor.. >:( >:(

now back to criticising members....it seems to be the only thing your good at.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Agnes on Feb 25th, 2019 at 10:40am

cods wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 7:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

The Reboot wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:50pm:
Actually I am at "the sewer" and I find Bobby's obsession with Aussie pathetic, cringe-worthy and borderline creepy. I don't think I'm alone in that opinion, either. Especially coupled with poofter comments  Tongue

But what can you do? He's a big boy, he makes his own decisions.



It's not just goober. Cods for one, was another one who always had to invoke Aussies name. No matter what you were discussing. It was ridiculous. There were others.



yes I have done my share in the past..

not as often as you have used my name... and never to post threads using his name either.. ::) ::)

now all I have asked is to be left alone...you leave me alone I usually return the favor.. >:( >:(

now back to criticising members
....it seems to be the only thing your good at.

Can't argue with that....all of them A/S/M and Pecca are all the same... bitching and whining constantly...like anyone even GAF- don't like it here ...leave you won't be missed....

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:02am

cods wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 7:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

The Reboot wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:50pm:
Actually I am at "the sewer" and I find Bobby's obsession with Aussie pathetic, cringe-worthy and borderline creepy. I don't think I'm alone in that opinion, either. Especially coupled with poofter comments  Tongue

But what can you do? He's a big boy, he makes his own decisions.



It's not just goober. Cods for one, was another one who always had to invoke Aussies name. No matter what you were discussing. It was ridiculous. There were others.



yes I have done my share in the past..

not as often as you have used my name... and never to post threads using his name either.. ::) ::)

now all I have asked is to be left alone...you leave me alone I usually return the favor.. >:( >:(

now back to criticising members....it seems to be the only thing your good at.


Will cods see the irony in that?  The own goal?  No chance.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:07am

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:02am:

cods wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 7:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

The Reboot wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:50pm:
Actually I am at "the sewer" and I find Bobby's obsession with Aussie pathetic, cringe-worthy and borderline creepy. I don't think I'm alone in that opinion, either. Especially coupled with poofter comments  Tongue

But what can you do? He's a big boy, he makes his own decisions.



It's not just goober. Cods for one, was another one who always had to invoke Aussies name. No matter what you were discussing. It was ridiculous. There were others.



yes I have done my share in the past..

not as often as you have used my name... and never to post threads using his name either.. ::) ::)

now all I have asked is to be left alone...you leave me alone I usually return the favor.. >:( >:(

now back to criticising members....it seems to be the only thing your good at.


Will cods see the irony in that?  The own goal?  No chance.


Nah, she won't see it.

Pretty funny though.


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Agnes on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:20am

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D

who ever said that was absolutely spot on.... even they though forgot to add stalker and demented creep

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:26am

Agnes wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:20am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D

who ever said that was absolutely spot on.... even they though forgot to add stalker and demented creep


That was cods....you know, she who never posts Member criticism or abuse.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:31am

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D


Good to see she's not criticising anyone   :)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by cods on Feb 25th, 2019 at 12:52pm

Agnes wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:20am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D

who ever said that was absolutely spot on.... even they though forgot to add stalker and demented creep



it was not said in the market place agnes...  ::) ::)

some lowlife managed to steal their way into PA.[called the sewer by some yet this person couldnt wait to soak up the sewage to spew elsewhere]

both here and abroad...

he must enjoy being called nasty names... hes the one that keeps mentioning it after all...

all I have done is ask him to leave me alone......which of course he hasnt has he?...

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

if you have any questions agnes please ask me elsewhere...at PA

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by cods on Feb 25th, 2019 at 12:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:31am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D


Good to see she's not criticising anyone   :)



I am doing you a huge favor and ignoring you as well.

be thankful for a change..

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 25th, 2019 at 1:00pm

cods wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 12:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:31am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D


Good to see she's not criticising anyone   :)



I am doing you a huge favor and ignoring you as well.

be thankful for a change..


Your post suggests otherwise.


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Feb 25th, 2019 at 2:11pm

cods wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 12:52pm:

Agnes wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:20am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D

who ever said that was absolutely spot on.... even they though forgot to add stalker and demented creep



it was not said in the market place agnes...  ::) ::)

some lowlife managed to steal their way into PA.[called the sewer by some yet this person couldnt wait to soak up the sewage to spew elsewhere]

both here and abroad...

he must enjoy being called nasty names... hes the one that keeps mentioning it after all...

all I have done is ask him to leave me alone......which of course he hasnt has he?...

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

if you have any questions agnes please ask me elsewhere...at PA


You leave me alone by posting that crap (where you thought) secretly??

Huh?

There is no place you can access on these Forums that others can't access as well cods.  Every such place leaks like a sieve.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 25th, 2019 at 5:16pm

cods wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 7:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

The Reboot wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:50pm:
Actually I am at "the sewer" and I find Bobby's obsession with Aussie pathetic, cringe-worthy and borderline creepy. I don't think I'm alone in that opinion, either. Especially coupled with poofter comments  Tongue

But what can you do? He's a big boy, he makes his own decisions.



It's not just goober. Cods for one, was another one who always had to invoke Aussies name. No matter what you were discussing. It was ridiculous. There were others.



yes I have done my share in the past..

not as often as you have used my name... and never to post threads using his name either.. ::) ::)

now all I have asked is to be left alone...you leave me alone I usually return the favor.. >:( >:(

now back to criticising members....it seems to be the only thing your good at.



no. Now piss off.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Feb 25th, 2019 at 5:19pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 2:11pm:
You leave me alone by posting that crap (where you thought) secretly??

Huh?




;D ;D ;D ;D

Apparently it makes sense to her.  :D :D

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Setanta on Feb 25th, 2019 at 6:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:31am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D


Good to see she's not criticising anyone   :)


Very astute observation, Gregg. You think Aussie is a nobody?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Dr Hard n Fast on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:48pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 7:36am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

The Reboot wrote on Feb 24th, 2019 at 9:50pm:
Actually I am at "the sewer" and I find Bobby's obsession with Aussie pathetic, cringe-worthy and borderline creepy. I don't think I'm alone in that opinion, either. Especially coupled with poofter comments  Tongue

But what can you do? He's a big boy, he makes his own decisions.



It's not just goober. Cods for one, was another one who always had to invoke Aussies name. No matter what you were discussing. It was ridiculous. There were others.



yes I have done my share in the past..

not as often as you have used my name... and never to post threads using his name either.. ::) ::)

now all I have asked is to be left alone...you leave me alone I usually return the favor.. >:( >:(

now back to criticising members....it seems to be the only thing your good at.



no. Now piss off.



MR SMITH! thas know way to talk to a lady


Hard n Fast

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:50pm

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:48pm:
MR SMITH! thas know way to talk to a lady



what lady? ::)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Dr Hard n Fast on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:50pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:31am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D


Good to see she's not criticising anyone   :)


Very astute observation, Gregg. You think Aussie is a nobody?



Well Mr Set, It may be more accurate to describe him as "" used to be somebody ""


Hard n Fast

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Dr Hard n Fast on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:52pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:50pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:48pm:
MR SMITH! thas know way to talk to a lady



what lady? ::)



Tut tut tut Mr Smith, If shes no lady , you are no man  :P



Hard n Fast

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 2:05pm

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:50pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:48pm:
MR SMITH! thas know way to talk to a lady



what lady? ::)



Tut tut tut Mr Smith, If shes no lady , you are no man  :P



Hard n Fast


You're the one making all the proclamations, not me. ::)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Dr Hard n Fast on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 2:10pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 2:05pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:50pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:48pm:
MR SMITH! thas know way to talk to a lady



what lady? ::)



Tut tut tut Mr Smith, If shes no lady , you are no man  :P



Hard n Fast


You're the one making all the proclamations, not me. ::)



Tut tut , Im sure you are not that simple minded that you could even convince  yourself of that lol




Hard n Fast

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by John Smith on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 2:18pm

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 2:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 2:05pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:50pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:48pm:
MR SMITH! thas know way to talk to a lady



what lady? ::)



Tut tut tut Mr Smith, If shes no lady , you are no man  :P



Hard n Fast


You're the one making all the proclamations, not me. ::)



Tut tut , Im sure you are not that simple minded that you could even convince  yourself of that lol

Hard n Fast

so you're not making proclamations? ::) ::) ::) It certainly sounds like it to me.

Or perhaps you're just not sure of what you're saying?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Dr Hard n Fast on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 2:26pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 2:18pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 2:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 2:05pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:50pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:48pm:
MR SMITH! thas know way to talk to a lady



what lady? ::)



Tut tut tut Mr Smith, If shes no lady , you are no man  :P



Hard n Fast


You're the one making all the proclamations, not me. ::)



Tut tut , Im sure you are not that simple minded that you could even convince  yourself of that lol

Hard n Fast

so you're not making proclamations? ::) ::) ::) It certainly sounds like it to me.

Or perhaps you're just not sure of what you're saying?



Im not the proclamatory  sort, Short n Sweet, Hard n Fast thats my signature



Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 3:07pm

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:31am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D


Good to see she's not criticising anyone   :)


Very astute observation, Gregg. You think Aussie is a nobody?



Well Mr Set, It may be more accurate to describe him as "" used to be somebody ""


Hard n Fast


I'll drink to that.  Better than being 'never was anybody living in West Auckland.

Aussie

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Dr Hard n Fast on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 3:34pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 3:07pm:

BigP wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:31am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 11:14am:
Yes, and this is the person who, where she thought no-one other than her fellow back-stabbers could see it, posted about me....."He's a scab a cheat and a liar."

:D


Good to see she's not criticising anyone   :)


Very astute observation, Gregg. You think Aussie is a nobody?



Well Mr Set, It may be more accurate to describe him as "" used to be somebody ""


Hard n Fast


I'll drink to that.  Better than being 'never was anybody living in West Auckland.

Aussie



Im sure there are lots of people living in West Auckland, some very smart ones I hear on good authority



Hard N fast , Brother Assie

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Peel Dilkinson on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:37am
I couldn't agree more.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 20th, 2019 at 2:28pm

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 20th, 2019 at 2:31pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 2:28pm:


;D

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:00pm
Good cartoon, Captain Nemo.

I am reminded of a Buddhist (from memory) quote:


Quote:
When you plant lettuce, if it does not grow well, you don’t blame the lettuce. You look for reasons it is not doing well


This is best described in the social sciences as “ecological theory”, which looks at the environment a human being is in, rather than their behaviour per se. It’s the old “nature vs nurture” debate.

An interesting topic for a cleaned up “Relationships board”, no?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:24pm

Kiwi Dave wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:00pm:
Good cartoon, Captain Nemo.

I am reminded of a Buddhist (from memory) quote:


Quote:
When you plant lettuce, if it does not grow well, you don’t blame the lettuce. You look for reasons it is not doing well


This is best described in the social sciences as “ecological theory”, which looks at the environment a human being is in, rather than their behaviour per se. It’s the old “nature vs nurture” debate.

An interesting topic for a cleaned up “Relationships board”, no?


Hmm.  Nicole has posted at the sewer that she is not this Kiwi Dave, despite the fact (which she will not dispute) that she was the original puppeteer of that muppet sock which caused the ultimate demise of any sense of democracy at the sewer where voting once had integrity.  'Kiwi Dave' set the precedent that voting can be rigged and FD was up to his eyeballs in it.  Down hill it went from there, and I used that precedent, I concede, as FD's Constitution urged everyone to do.

While I am not completely convinced that this Kiwi Dave is not Nicole, the more this Kiwi Dave posts, the more I move away from concluding it is Nicole or even Agnes.

That leaves just one contender who was aware of the history of the sewer and "Kiwi Dave" activities there, one who had bucket loads of tickets on herself about her genius, especially in philosophy and psychology.  If my memory of Board history holds true, this person was once the Mod of the Atheism MRB here, and then more latterly when Vic was doing his clean out of MRBs abandoned by the Mod, The Barnacle got the gig.

Anyone?

Care to 'fess up 'Kiwi Dave?'

See this Thread:

Link.


Quote:
Clean up Time
Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:17pm Quote
I've noticed that some of the guests to my sub-forum of late have forgotten their manners. The threads are no longer as interesting as they once were and that is very is disappointing. Now, they're strewn with new post after new post of flaming by trolls of little or no imagination.

As a consequence of this bad behavior, I have some housework to tend to over the next few weeks. I'll be cleaning up my sub forum, removing the meaningless insults and other such posts that do not contribute to either the OP, current tangent or argumentation overall.

Those who notice their posts deleted may restrict their bitchin' n' cryin' to this thread only. I will look forward to hearing from Spot of Borg et el and Soren who seem to think they can bring their little vexation to my sub-forum. I should like to recommend the Feedback sub-forum as being more liberal minded on trolls, as a place to hold your little forum war. My grounds are neutral and more focused.

Thank you.


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:35pm

Kiwi Dave wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:00pm:
Good cartoon, Captain Nemo.

I am reminded of a Buddhist (from memory) quote:


Quote:
When you plant lettuce, if it does not grow well, you don’t blame the lettuce. You look for reasons it is not doing well


This is best described in the social sciences as “ecological theory”, which looks at the environment a human being is in, rather than their behaviour per se. It’s the old “nature vs nurture” debate.

An interesting topic for a cleaned up “Relationships board”, no?



I've wondered aloud about that very thing in Spirituality, Philosophy and Fringe as applies to humans, saying (because it's my opinion) that no reasonable god could have the hide to judge humans when humans are simply the result of their genes, over which they have no control

and I've simplified it by saying (because it is my opinion) that if a cart falls into the ditch, isn't it the fault of the cart-maker, rather than the cart?  I've also likened it to a cake, saying if the cake fails, surely it's the fault of the baker and the ingredients, rather than of the cake


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 20th, 2019 at 6:37pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

Kiwi Dave wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:00pm:
Good cartoon, Captain Nemo.

I am reminded of a Buddhist (from memory) quote:


Quote:
When you plant lettuce, if it does not grow well, you don’t blame the lettuce. You look for reasons it is not doing well


This is best described in the social sciences as “ecological theory”, which looks at the environment a human being is in, rather than their behaviour per se. It’s the old “nature vs nurture” debate.

An interesting topic for a cleaned up “Relationships board”, no?



I've wondered aloud about that very thing in Spirituality, Philosophy and Fringe as applies to humans, saying (because it's my opinion) that no reasonable god could have the hide to judge humans when humans are simply the result of their genes, over which they have no control

and I've simplified it by saying (because it is my opinion) that if a cart falls into the ditch, isn't it the fault of the cart-maker, rather than the cart?  I've also likened it to a cake, saying if the cake fails, surely it's the fault of the baker and the ingredients, rather than of the cake


Hey PZ,

Thanks for a well thought through reply, which although brief, raises many issues:

1) humans having, or not having, control over their genetic make-up
2) why, if “god” exists, does he create such human suffering?
3) is human behaviour the result of their genes, or their environment?

Ecological theory would hold that it’s the environment that is the cause of human behaviour. The lettuce fails to thrive because of a lack of water, not enough sun, poor soil etc. Ecological theory holds that all humans will thrive, given the right environment.

You seem to focus more on “god” and genes - your cake baker. Is it the fault of the paedophile that he is attracted to children? Can the paedophile “control” that attraction and resist his urges? If he cannot, is it right that we demonise him? What kind of “god” would create such an urge? Are these urges the result of upbringing and environment (ecological theory) or genes (biology)? 

Your well thought out post raises many questions, none of which I have a particular bent towards. I would like to see a space, on this board or another, where we can discuss the human condition, without it being Jerry Springer style, which is what the Relationships board is in its current form.

I will continue to press to take on Relationships here, however am also in discussion with another board admin.

In the meantime PZ I’d love for you to flesh out your thoughts to my response above.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 20th, 2019 at 10:29pm
Bump for PZ  :)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 20th, 2019 at 11:30pm

Quote:
Hey PZ,

Thanks for a well thought through reply, which although brief, raises many issues:

1) humans having, or not having, control over their genetic make-up
2) why, if “god” exists, does he create such human suffering?
3) is human behaviour the result of their genes, or their environment?

Ecological theory would hold that it’s the environment that is the cause of human behaviour. The lettuce fails to thrive because of a lack of water, not enough sun, poor soil etc. Ecological theory holds that all humans will thrive, given the right environment.

You seem to focus more on “god” and genes - your cake baker. Is it the fault of the paedophile that he is attracted to children? Can the paedophile “control” that attraction and resist his urges? If he cannot, is it right that we demonise him? What kind of “god” would create such an urge? Are these urges the result of upbringing and environment (ecological theory) or genes (biology)? 

Your well thought out post raises many questions, none of which I have a particular bent towards. I would like to see a space, on this board or another, where we can discuss the human condition, without it being Jerry Springer style, which is what the Relationships board is in its current form.

I will continue to press to take on Relationships here, however am also in discussion with another board admin.

In the meantime PZ I’d love for you to flesh out your thoughts to my response above.
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Thanks, Kiwi Dave.  Currently a storm is raging as to your identity, but to me, it doesn't matter because it's the exchange of ideas which is important and even though I have only the one ID, I accept there are those who choose a number of IDs under which to function here

For me, genes or Nature (as in the old Nature or Nurture debate) is captain of the individual's ship

As to paedophiles, sex with children is how they're wired.  If it were sex with bananas, no one would care, but we're forced to choose between the paedophile and children, so it's no contest.  Unfortunately, easy access to kiddy porn has created a tsunami of paedophiles.  It seems clear that lust for children has been just under the surface all along.  It's disturbing and I don't know what the answer is.  Maybe it demands we should decide which to dispose of -- paedophiles or children?  While we're told women are naturally disposed to wanting children, we're also told about the biological imperative which points to men being most anxious to father children before they shuffle off the coil.  So who would be most in favour of childless societies -- men or women?  And if the answer is men, and as men form the bulk of paedophiles (just using that word for convenience) would the thought of childless societies motivate men to 'control their urges' as you say?  Only one way to find out.  If you read in the Childfree by Choice type forums, it seems to be women who most want to be, or become, child free.  Either way, I believe a halt to human breeding might have a chance of resetting the world before we destroy it through over population

I support eugenics, broadly speaking, and euthanasia.  People automatically yelp, most times, when those topics are raised, although I suspect more people are now considering the wisdom in both.  If I had a severely disabled child, I'm sure my opinions would be different.  But if we take a detached and overall view, surely we can acknowledge that some people would be better off if spared their miserable existence?  And it's not just their existence, it's the ruination of other lives -- parents, carers, taxpayers.  I've seen elderly parents saddled with a down's syndrome child. They live with aching worry about that adult child's fate after they, the parents are gone.  Let's not kid ourselves about the quality of care the child will receive, or about the abuse, including sexual abuse, to which they'll be subjected when left to survive in a care institution.  So the elderly parents, exhausted in mind and body, plug on, trying to extend their child's protection and wellbeing.  And it's the same for the parents of all disabled offspring. It's not Noddy Land.  The disabled are vulnerable and will be exploited when the State is all they have to provide for them.  Years ago, doctors allowed those children to die at birth.  These days they're compelled, like the parents, to go on living -- and what can be said in favour of that situation, other than that the child has lived another day

Mistakes occur in every endeavor and the greater the output, as in mass production, the more mistakes will emerge. We expect and allow for it and if a product (car or refrigerator) is faulty, the manufacturer issues a recall. The faulty item is scrapped/taken out of production.  Human breeding is the equivalent to mass production and of course, some humans are mistakes.  We don't demand or expect people to use faulty hairdryers, nor should we force people to persist with faulty humans.  Mistakes happen so why gloss over it.  Say goodbye and usher the faulty human to its next life.

As to God, I don't visualise God as an old man in the clouds, although I did as a child.  Now, I regard God to be an unimaginable intelligence. It's said that God helps he who helps himself.  That being the case, we should be furthering the human race, maximising its potential and removing all obstgacles to that potential, rather than shuffling along the same, self defeating path






Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Setanta on Apr 21st, 2019 at 12:10am

Kiwi Dave wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 10:29pm:
Bump for PZ  :)


I'm guessing you are not slinking away?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 21st, 2019 at 12:27am
still going …

Currently, humans are farmed, although they seldom see it that way. It might be an experiment which was abandoned and left to run wild, who knows

But, what is human life?  For most, it's years of being trapped inside schools being programmed to function in the world those before us established.  Children's natural behaviours are brought to heel.  The vast majority of children are forced by their peers, teachers, parents, society, to conform.  The most terrifying thought for those who govern societies is that each child should think for itself, act on its impulses and instincts.  So they have to be brought to heel, trained like seals to conform before they reach maturity, in the interests of a liveable society

Then, with most of their true potential knocked out of them and already indoctrinated into consumerism, they look around for a steady sexual partner. When they find one which returns their affection, they call it 'love'.  'Love' generally brings forth the next generation.  So humans find paid employment if they can, in order to build a nest for the raising of the young.  That puts them behind a mortgage and beneath the employer/s necessary to fund that mortgage.  Then the long list of expenses created by the offspring and the nest -- school fees, car payments, clothing, food, utilities, etc.

After twenty or thirty years at the coal face, the parents wave goodbye to the offspring who go off to repeat the process themselves

The parents are no longer necessary from Nature's point of view. They've obeyed the biological imperative and are now redundant, for all Nature wants from us is that we replace ourselves before we die

A few short years of retirement, or, these days, more years at the coal face.  Final tally extracted through aged-care and retirement homes and funeral expenses.  Ta ta.  Generation after the next.  And for what -- so the human race can continue?  And the point ?

Plants and bugs and animals do the same thing.  End result -- a planet filled with carcasses and bones

Apart from waste and some buildings, what do humans most produce?  Isn't it 'emotions'?

We churn them out, emotions.  Fear, joy, pain, suffering, hope, hopelessness, grief.  We're full of them.  We're emotion-machines.  We're at the mercy of our emotions, constantly -- irritation, anger, anxiety.  A dictionary of them.  They control us, overwhelm us, make us stupid and dangerous

It's why we value 'calm'.  The Little Book of Calm.  Some religions/beliefs exhort us to separate from our emotions, free ourselves from them.  We ask for peace, personal and world peace.  Our emotions exhaust us, weaken us, defeat us, control us

so whatever the Meaning of Life is -- it's connected to the emotions we're so rich in

Are emotions a form of communication?  We express ourselves through emotions. Take away the emotional component and we wouldn't communicate effectively.  We're blind without a display of emotion, albeit as simple as a polite smile. We demand an emotional response from out pets -- a waggy tail, a cat's rub and purr against our leg. If they don't demonstrate their affection, we believe our pet doesn't 'love' us

So we humans need acknowledgement and approval and we return it as a rule.  We 'bond' with humans and animals.  If we're particularly close, we know when they're distressed, sick, anxious.  So, despite our appearance of separation, we are actually one thing, we are one.  Like the jellyfish which is composed of hundreds of separate organisms, despite having the appearance of being 'one jellyfish'.  It's a colony, a town or country.  Humans are a big colony, town or country with all the parts giving the appearance of individuality.  Maybe the entire human race is an animal ... one animal?

The whole mystery is beyong our ability to grasp and understand. We keep busy with the payments, the problems, the emotions.  We're self perpetuating. We try to create altered states through alcohol, music, drugs because it's too big to deal with and lives go by so fast. We link to the past and future via our genes.  We should know more and have the mystery cracked after all this time and religion doesn't help much.  We achieve moments of respite but not for long. We're actually blind as bats and deaf as well and can perceive less than one percent of everything that exists

it's called Life and we're on a train that takes us from birth to death, no U-turns, no refunds, no real explanation.  And we're told this Life is 'sacred' for some reason and must be protected and nurtured at all costs, except for when we're killing and dying in wars, which appear to be as constant as birth and death

Most of our time is spent distracting ourselves from the pain of our existence, but it's polite to always smile and appear happy

We build things, we break them. We're no smarter than thousands of years ago, we just have different stuff

Why are we here, where do we come from and where do we go?  We don't know

and that's it

We need a point, a focus, so we busy ourselves with stuff and people, to put meaning into the gaping hole that haunts us and the question, What's it all about?

The most terrifying thought in the back of people's minds is that perhaps there is no point to us or any of this and perhaps we're like an oil rig, constantly pumping out emotion

who knows.  We don't.  It's time we were given a clue, if there is one

wonder what would happen if we synchronised and all jumped off a cliff?




Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 21st, 2019 at 12:45am

Setanta wrote on Apr 21st, 2019 at 12:10am:

Kiwi Dave wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 10:29pm:
Bump for PZ  :)


I'm guessing you are not slinking away?


No Set, I’m not. It may just be that it can take more than 5 minutes to make a post... ::). There’s this other thing called ‘life’ that can be a distraction as well...

PZ, we have lots to talk about. Thanks for your posts. They are rich in content and bring up numerous issues.

Life being life, I will have to “slink away” tomorrow, but I will be back to respond, to discuss, to debate, and to ponder.

Set, I’m sorry you’ve copped so much pointless crap tonight.

Night all.

Dave

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by it_is_the_MIGHT on Apr 21st, 2019 at 11:13am

Aussie wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

Kiwi Dave wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:00pm:
Good cartoon, Captain Nemo.

I am reminded of a Buddhist (from memory) quote:


Quote:
When you plant lettuce, if it does not grow well, you don’t blame the lettuce. You look for reasons it is not doing well


This is best described in the social sciences as “ecological theory”, which looks at the environment a human being is in, rather than their behaviour per se. It’s the old “nature vs nurture” debate.

An interesting topic for a cleaned up “Relationships board”, no?


Hmm.  Nicole has posted at the sewer that she is not this Kiwi Dave, despite the fact (which she will not dispute) that she was the original puppeteer of that muppet sock which caused the ultimate demise of any sense of democracy at the sewer where voting once had integrity.  'Kiwi Dave' set the precedent that voting can be rigged and FD was up to his eyeballs in it.  Down hill it went from there, and I used that precedent, I concede, as FD's Constitution urged everyone to do.

While I am not completely convinced that this Kiwi Dave is not Nicole, the more this Kiwi Dave posts, the more I move away from concluding it is Nicole or even Agnes.

That leaves just one contender who was aware of the history of the sewer and "Kiwi Dave" activities there, one who had bucket loads of tickets on herself about her genius, especially in philosophy and psychology.  If my memory of Board history holds true, this person was once the Mod of the Atheism MRB here, and then more latterly when Vic was doing his clean out of MRBs abandoned by the Mod, The Barnacle got the gig.

Anyone?

Care to 'fess up 'Kiwi Dave?'

See this Thread:

Link.

[quote]
Clean up Time
Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:17pm Quote
I've noticed that some of the guests to my sub-forum of late have forgotten their manners. The threads are no longer as interesting as they once were and that is very is disappointing. Now, they're strewn with new post after new post of flaming by trolls of little or no imagination.

As a consequence of this bad behavior, I have some housework to tend to over the next few weeks. I'll be cleaning up my sub forum, removing the meaningless insults and other such posts that do not contribute to either the OP, current tangent or argumentation overall.

Those who notice their posts deleted may restrict their bitchin' n' cryin' to this thread only. I will look forward to hearing from Spot of Borg et el and Soren who seem to think they can bring their little vexation to my sub-forum. I should like to recommend the Feedback sub-forum as being more liberal minded on trolls, as a place to hold your little forum war. My grounds are neutral and more focused.

Thank you.

[/quote]

Nobody cares  ::) senile old loon.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Apr 21st, 2019 at 12:02pm
It is self evident that you do.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 21st, 2019 at 12:33pm
Aussie being friendly !

::) ::)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 21st, 2019 at 2:30pm
it starts from an early age ...


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 8:38am

Quote:
Thanks, Kiwi Dave.  Currently a storm is raging as to your identity…

Like sands through the hour glass, these are the days of our lives.



Quote:
For me, genes or Nature (as in the old Nature or Nurture debate) is captain of the individual's ship

That’s a pretty blunt statement, PZ. So to return to our poor old lettuce which gets no sun, you are placing the blame 100% at the foot of the lettuce, giving no consideration to the environment in which the lettuce is supposed to thrive.
I have no doubt however that genetics plays a key role in human behaviour, successes and foibles.
Take alcoholism, which tends to ‘run in families’. Is there a genetic imperative to alcoholism, or is it a learned behaviour? Knowing that children ‘mimic’ their parents and key attachment figures, it could be either. Particularly because the brain is wired in adolescence towards addiction. Hence online gaming is such a concern. I will try and get some time to dig up some studies on twins separated at birth. As I said to you above, I have no bent either way: merely a curiousity.


Quote:
I believe a halt to human breeding might have a chance of resetting the world before we destroy it through over population

Ah, now we dip into the political. I agree with you.
To the best of my knowledge, the only nation that has tried to reverse population growth, is China with its One Child Policy. This resulted in baby girls born in the countryside being murdered by their parents, and I presume as a result, a disproportionate population of males.
How do you feel about the west propping up countries like Ethiopia with food and aid when they have famines? I think the country of Ethiopia now has a staggering population of 88 million.


Quote:
I support eugenics, broadly speaking, and euthanasia.  People automatically yelp, most times, when those topics are raised, although I suspect more people are now considering the wisdom in both.  If I had a severely disabled child, I'm sure my opinions would be different.  But if we take a detached and overall view, surely we can acknowledge that some people would be better off if spared their miserable existence?  And it's not just their existence, it's the ruination of other lives -- parents, carers, taxpayers.  I've seen elderly parents saddled with a down's syndrome child. They live with aching worry about that adult child's fate after they, the parents are gone.  Let's not kid ourselves about the quality of care the child will receive, or about the abuse, including sexual abuse, to which they'll be subjected when left to survive in a care institution.  So the elderly parents, exhausted in mind and body, plug on, trying to extend their child's protection and wellbeing.  And it's the same for the parents of all disabled offspring. It's not Noddy Land.  The disabled are vulnerable and will be exploited when the State is all they have to provide for them.  Years ago, doctors allowed those children to die at birth.  These days they're compelled, like the parents, to go on living -- and what can be said in favour of that situation, other than that the child has lived another day

I have some sympathy for Darwinism, but wonder where we draw the line of just letting the babe die at birth. I have had some experience with Downs Syndrome people. They appear to love and enjoy living as much as you or I do. You want to deny them life?


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Mistakes occur in every endeavor and the greater the output, as in mass production, the more mistakes will emerge. We expect and allow for it and if a product (car or refrigerator) is faulty, the manufacturer issues a recall. The faulty item is scrapped/taken out of production.  Human breeding is the equivalent to mass production and of course, some humans are mistakes.  We don't demand or expect people to use faulty hairdryers, nor should we force people to persist with faulty humans.  Mistakes happen so why gloss over it.  Say goodbye and usher the faulty human to its next life.

Humans are not hair dryers or refrigerators. Hence human breeding is not the equivalent of “mass production”. And what makes you think the “faulty human” has a next life? And where do you draw the line, again. You’ve already eliminated Down’s Syndrome. Hair lips? Schizophrenia? You are on a very slippery slope here PZ.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 8:39am
Continued.


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As to God, I don't visualise God as an old man in the clouds, although I did as a child.  Now, I regard God to be an unimaginable intelligence. It's said that God helps he who helps himself.  That being the case, we should be furthering the human race, maximising its potential and removing all obstgacles to that potential, rather than shuffling along the same, self defeating path.

Who says God helps he who will help himself? I’m not versed in scriptures and see it as man written toss, be it Buddist or Muslim, or any other religion.
Can you flesh out a little more what you mean by, “removing all obstacles to that potential”?


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Currently, humans are farmed, although they seldom see it that way. It might be an experiment which was abandoned and left to run wild, who knows

But, what is human life?  For most, it's years of being trapped inside schools being programmed to function in the world those before us established.  Children's natural behaviours are brought to heel.  The vast majority of children are forced by their peers, teachers, parents, society, to conform.  The most terrifying thought for those who govern societies is that each child should think for itself, act on its impulses and instincts.  So they have to be brought to heel, trained like seals to conform before they reach maturity, in the interests of a liveable society

I agree. The only consequences given to children should be natural ones. For example, if the child leaves home without an umbrella in the winter, that child is going to get wet. That’s how they learn.


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Then, with most of their true potential knocked out of them and already indoctrinated into consumerism, they look around for a steady sexual partner. When they find one which returns their affection, they call it 'love'.  'Love' generally brings forth the next generation.  So humans find paid employment if they can, in order to build a nest for the raising of the young.  That puts them behind a mortgage and beneath the employer/s necessary to fund that mortgage.  Then the long list of expenses created by the offspring and the nest -- school fees, car payments, clothing, food, utilities, etc.

After twenty or thirty years at the coal face, the parents wave goodbye to the offspring who go off to repeat the process themselves

The parents are no longer necessary from Nature's point of view. They've obeyed the biological imperative and are now redundant, for all Nature wants from us is that we replace ourselves before we die

A few short years of retirement, or, these days, more years at the coal face.  Final tally extracted through aged-care and retirement homes and funeral expenses.  Ta ta.  Generation after the next.  And for what -- so the human race can continue?  And the point ?

You seem to be rallying against Capitalism, which I don’t mind. But you ask what the point is…there is a point.
Yesterday I received a text from an old school friend, out of the blue. He wrote to me, “Dave, just in case I get hit by a bus tomorrow, I want you to know you are one of the most exceptional human beings I have ever met”. I don’t write that to big note myself – my friend was being kind. But the point is, that we continue for our connections and relationships. For love. For friendship. You said above something along the lines that individuals are the masters of their own destinies. Now we can use that destiny for good or bad, for better or worse, for richer or poorer. That’s the point, PZ.


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Apart from waste and some buildings, what do humans most produce?  Isn't it 'emotions'?

We churn them out, emotions.  Fear, joy, pain, suffering, hope, hopelessness, grief.  We're full of them.  We're emotion-machines.  We're at the mercy of our emotions, constantly -- irritation, anger, anxiety.  A dictionary of them.  They control us, overwhelm us, make us stupid and dangerous

It's why we value 'calm'.  The Little Book of Calm.  Some religions/beliefs exhort us to separate from our emotions, free ourselves from them.  We ask for peace, personal and world peace.  Our emotions exhaust us, weaken us, defeat us, control us

so whatever the Meaning of Life is -- it's connected to the emotions we're so rich in

Correct. Except I choose to control my emotions. They don’t control me. I admit this has come to me in my older years.


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Are emotions a form of communication?  We express ourselves through emotions. Take away the emotional component and we wouldn't communicate effectively.  We're blind without a display of emotion, albeit as simple as a polite smile. We demand an emotional response from out pets -- a waggy tail, a cat's rub and purr against our leg. If they don't demonstrate their affection, we believe our pet doesn't 'love' us

So we humans need acknowledgement and approval and we return it as a rule.  We 'bond' with humans and animals.  If we're particularly close, we know when they're distressed, sick, anxious.  So, despite our appearance of separation, we are actually one thing, we are one.  Like the jellyfish which is composed of hundreds of separate organisms, despite having the appearance of being 'one jellyfish'.  It's a colony, a town or country.  Humans are a big colony, town or country with all the parts giving the appearance of individuality.  Maybe the entire human race is an animal ... one animal?

Yet you would kill off life forms that are not your version of ‘perfect’?

Nice talking with you, PZ.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Violet Crumble on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 6:02pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

Kiwi Dave wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:00pm:
Good cartoon, Captain Nemo.

I am reminded of a Buddhist (from memory) quote:


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When you plant lettuce, if it does not grow well, you don’t blame the lettuce. You look for reasons it is not doing well


This is best described in the social sciences as “ecological theory”, which looks at the environment a human being is in, rather than their behaviour per se. It’s the old “nature vs nurture” debate.

An interesting topic for a cleaned up “Relationships board”, no?


Hmm.  Nicole has posted at the sewer that she is not this Kiwi Dave, despite the fact (which she will not dispute) that she was the original puppeteer of that muppet sock which caused the ultimate demise of any sense of democracy at the sewer where voting once had integrity.  'Kiwi Dave' set the precedent that voting can be rigged and FD was up to his eyeballs in it.  Down hill it went from there, and I used that precedent, I concede, as FD's Constitution urged everyone to do.

While I am not completely convinced that this Kiwi Dave is not Nicole, the more this Kiwi Dave posts, the more I move away from concluding it is Nicole or even Agnes.

That leaves just one contender who was aware of the history of the sewer and "Kiwi Dave" activities there, one who had bucket loads of tickets on herself about her genius, especially in philosophy and psychology.  If my memory of Board history holds true, this person was once the Mod of the Atheism MRB here, and then more latterly when Vic was doing his clean out of MRBs abandoned by the Mod, The Barnacle got the gig.

Anyone?

Care to 'fess up 'Kiwi Dave?'

See this Thread:

Link.

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Clean up Time
Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:17pm Quote
I've noticed that some of the guests to my sub-forum of late have forgotten their manners. The threads are no longer as interesting as they once were and that is very is disappointing. Now, they're strewn with new post after new post of flaming by trolls of little or no imagination.

As a consequence of this bad behavior, I have some housework to tend to over the next few weeks. I'll be cleaning up my sub forum, removing the meaningless insults and other such posts that do not contribute to either the OP, current tangent or argumentation overall.

Those who notice their posts deleted may restrict their bitchin' n' cryin' to this thread only. I will look forward to hearing from Spot of Borg et el and Soren who seem to think they can bring their little vexation to my sub-forum. I should like to recommend the Feedback sub-forum as being more liberal minded on trolls, as a place to hold your little forum war. My grounds are neutral and more focused.

Thank you.

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8-)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 8:02pm
Where’s Wally? In the strawberry patch?

Bump for PZ.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:33pm
Bump for PZ  :)

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:39pm
Cmon PZ. I spend ages replying to you mate.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by The Reboot on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:02pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 21st, 2019 at 12:02pm:
It is self evident that you do.


Riiight, because I'm the one making a song and dance about a new member being one of your smelly 'socks'.  ::)


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:28pm
Didn't see your replies, Kiwi Dave.  Sorry


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For me, genes or Nature (as in the old Nature or Nurture debate) is captain of the individual's ship


There can only be one Captain.  He might have First Mates, navigators, etc.  But there can only be one captain, agreed?  Therefore, genes are the captain 

Further to genes.  We don't get oranges from apple trees

world population:

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How do you feel about the west propping up countries like Ethiopia with food and aid when they have famines? I think the country of Ethiopia now has a staggering population of 88 million


As an individual, if there on the spot facing widespread famine and suffering, I'd give them whatever food I had.  As a world leader, taking an overview, I'd offer them sterilization and I'd feed only those who accepted to be sterilized.  The reality is, we don't need any more people on the planet.  And we certainly don't need the current unrestricted, mindless breeding. The vast majority of  us are here because people had sex. They were not planning on reproducing.  I'd like to see licences to breed and only if the potential breeders could stump up at least $250,000 each, to be put in trust for the support of the child in the event of divorce/separation -- and only if both potential parents passed psychological and physical assessment (ongoing throughout the child's life until it reached majority) would their application for a licence to breed be considered


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I have some sympathy for Darwinism, but wonder where we draw the line of just letting the babe die at birth. I have had some experience with Downs Syndrome people. They appear to love and enjoy living as much as you or I do. You want to deny them life?


In the 1970s, the geniuses decided the mentally disabled/retarded should be permitted to breed.  Prior to that, the mentally disabled were sterilized.  A documentary from that era showed two individuals, male & female who'd until recently lived in an institution.  The female had become pregnant.  The couple were provided taxpayer funded accommodation, 2 bedroom, in the outside world.  It was explained to viewers that a team of carers would take care of the parents and their child -- around the clock, in shifts. The parents couldn't boil an egg. The female was Downs syndrome and can't remember her husband's disability but both were incapable of functioning independently. They were like a pair of four year olds.  A chirpy voice said there was no reason to believe their child would suffer mental impairment.  Taxpayers would provide carers for the child until it was 16 or so and would need to continue caring for the parents on permanent basis. 

Most of us have known families who had/have as a member a Down's sydrome child or adult.  Fine when the child is young and the parents are healthy & energetic.  Ever seen those families when their child is middle aged and the parents are elderly and exhausted?  The parents force themselves through in their 70s and 80s. They cannot afford to be seen to be failing health wise or mentally, or their child will be placed in an institution where .. as the parents know .. they will very probably be physically, sexually and emotionally abused.  There are few angels in care facilities. 

It has nothing to do with how I feel personally with regard to Downs or other afflicted people. I've made good friends with Downs people to the point a poor, stooped grey haired father turned up at my place of work early in the morning apologising because his Downs syndrome daughter, in her mid 40s, insisted she be able to show me her birthday present first thing.  She came roaring across the car park, present in hand, bellowing hello to me with her poor old dad in tow.  You could have picked him in one hand, he was so aged and weak.  But he and his wife loved their daughter fiercely and were terrified of dying or breaking a bone which would result in her being put in an institution.  When I lived in the country as a kid, every second farming family seemed to have a Downs syndrome or other disabled member.  The parents looked haunted -- 'Who will take care of him/her when I'm gone?'. 

Back in the age of common sense, doctors and nurses deliberately did not smack disabled and other afflicted newborns to life.  They put them to one side, where they soon expired naturally.  The mothers were told the child was gone, and told they could have more, so chin up.  It was for the best.  A disabled child places an enormous toll on parents, the family's other children, society, etc.  Marriages collapse under the strain, leaving one parent alone, and possibly with other children to provide for.  All that potential wasted.  Gifted men, women and their children are sacrificed on the altar of the disabled child. Houses have to be sold and another one bought, to better accomodate the disabled child.  Jobs and careers are lost due to the need to be close to a hospital, to have time to take the disabled child back and forth. 

Sure, when it's happening to someone else and we generously spare a smile for the parents patiently pushing their disabled child around, we can claim to be indignant about sparing society of the disabled.  It's called virtue signalling.  But spare a thought for the exhausted parent up at four in the morning, changing the nappy and bedding of a 45 year old man for the sixth time that day. It's a stupid waste of the parents life

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:13pm

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Humans are not hair dryers or refrigerators. Hence human breeding is not the equivalent of “mass production”. And what makes you think the “faulty human” has a next life? And where do you draw the line, again. You’ve already eliminated Down’s Syndrome. Hair lips? Schizophrenia? You are on a very slippery slope here PZ


I'm a supporter of eugenics and have said so many times.  A farmer does not breed from the halt and lame.  A farmer does not save seed from bad crops and plant them.  What's the definition of stupidity?  It is, boiled down, someone who does the same thing repeatedly, expecting a different result.  I'm not editing or proof reading any of this, so don't get to involved in analysing it in depth, ok

In the natural world, let's say a herd of zebra, they don't carry their lame and diseased members around.  Those that can't keep up are left behind for predators.  The natural world employs eugenics.  Only emotion-ridden, guilt-ridden, religiously bullied into believing all life is sacred humans, breed from the unfit

God helps he who helps himself.  The Pope ignores a lot but redeems himself in the eyes of the simple minded by exhorting people to 'give to the poor'.  90% of what they give ends up in the wrong pockets, but that's incidental.  The Pope will not sanction birth control, so kids of five years of age, nine years of age, are made pregnant and abortion is refused them.  God expects us to help ourselves climb out of an overpopulated world by thinking smart, not emotionally.  If we don't start thinking smart, we're going down.  If you have objection to my quoting God, attribute it to Mickey Mouse, makes no difference.  All the blue eyed people in teh world are said to descend from four women, from what I remember.  See what prolific breeders humans are. 

Doesn't matter if I'm on a slippery slope.  Humanity is close to perching on the edge of a cliff.  You have access to water, to food, to internet.  Can you adapt to a life of fighting for scraps of food and half a cup of slime?  But you figure, no doubt, that it won't reach tipping point in your lifetime, so you'll be fine.  Do you have kids, grandkids, great grandkids?  Will they be fine living like rats?  How much longer before we start thinking smart -- do we wait until it's too late?

and when a ship is sinking or a plane losing height, what do they do?  They jettison everything to save their skins.  When the chips are down, humans suddenly gain perspective about who and what is important.  Why wait until the last minute?

Human breeding is very much a case of mass production.  Go up six miles and look down. What do you see?  You'll see babies popping out like hot cross buns coming out of the bakery oven.

I mentioned the biological imperative, which for those who don't know, is Nature's edict that we replace ourselves before we depart life.  We don't even know why it's such a big deal.  Dandelions and cockroaches do the same.  Humans are far from unique in that.  Everything replacing itself mindlessly -- billions of humans, trillions of cockroaches all mass producing. Then struggling to raise the offspring to a point of independent life.  And making a virtue of it !  All that human potential unrealised because Time, Energy and Resources are devoted to the young.  After that, Life/Nature has no need for the parent.  And we hide from that reality.  We lie about it.  We say it was worth it.  When in many cases it was not.  But we build our reason for living on the belief that we've done something noble by perpetuating the species

Brumbies are beautiful animals, as are kangaroos, dingos, etc.  We cull them.  We cull healthy camels and donkeys and turn them into pet food.  Humans are practical and rutheless about all apart from themselves.  Nature programmed us to become infatuated with our own young, no matter how faulty, yes faulty, they might be.  Zebras don't make that mistake and therefore maintain the health and welfare of the herd

You're being facetious when you list hair-lips, obviously.  As to schizophrenia ... it's a problem.  Ten and more years ago in the UK, it was conceded by the authorities that at least one person a week was murdered by a schizophrenic.  I don't believe that's a fair trade -- a schizophrenic is released from an institution, trusted with taking their medication, thus freedom for them and death (often brutal) for a random, functioning victim.  If a person suffering a mental or other disability cannot function and is a danger to society, then yes, they have to go

Twice today, in the news, I read of someone citing mental illness (and drugs, drink) as their defence after they'd killed one or  more others.  I'm with Duterte -- despatch them to their maker. We dispose of household garbage.  Idiots hoard their garbage. We're trying to keep a ship afloat.  We're trying to maintain civilized societies.  Cuts have to be made. Mental asylums and homes for the infirm used to keep societies' streets relatively clean. But they were inhumane. The inmates are on the streets now. And now, society is like an insane asylum. Woman wandering around here is grotesque. She walks into businesses and defecates on their floors. The police take her away. Her family, keen for carer's allowance, get her out and the process is repeated endlessly. Men sleep with her and give her cigarettes. She's semi human. I believe she'd be better off out of this life. Zebras would agree

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:34am

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As to God, I don't visualise God as an old man in the clouds, although I did as a child.  Now, I regard God to be an unimaginable intelligence. It's said that God helps he who helps himself.  That being the case, we should be furthering the human race, maximising its potential and removing all obstgacles to that potential, rather than shuffling along the same, self defeating path
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Kiwi Dave says:  Who says God helps he who will help himself? I’m not versed in scriptures and see it as man written toss, be it Buddist or Muslim, or any other religion.

Can you flesh out a little more what you mean by, “removing all obstacles to that potential”?


I just said it. Can't remember why. I'll have to think a moment

Ok, I'll have a stab.  Here we are, still fighting each other, warring, destroying, etc.  It's been going on since before recorded history

surely we can do better?  And if we can't, what's the point of our existence?  If we were observed from above, the observer would be correct in believing we're limited, self limiting and too stupid to progress -- a dead end.  So - a lost cause

India, China and Africa are bursting at the seams and now pose a threat to the rest of the world -- we're talking in broad strokes here.  They have lost control of their populations. They still live in poverty and misery, hand to mouth. Humans of undoubted talent and worth spend their lives in a daily struggle for food and water

What do those of us in more favourable circumstances do to alleviate all that misery and waste?  We send supplies to them. But they, and we, continue breeding. There are only so many you can fit into a Volkswagon

With a drastically reduced population and by breeding from the best we could halt the mess.  Instead of a human population of hairy, smelly, disease-ridden creatures, we could -- if we'd focused on quality rather than quantity -- have engineered (via removal of the lizard-brain) disease-free, highly intelligent humans or hybrids --- even a robot society.  A society where violence and destruction were unknown.  Those superior beings would have repaired the environment and natural world.  They would tread lightly on the planet. They would seriously curtail their breeding as in 'one in means one out'.  No more waste of resources. Responsible inhabitants whose energies were devoted to the sciences, art, inner life and the cosmos.  Yes, a futuristic society compared to which, our current societies would seem like the earliest cave-men

It's the lizard-brain which is responsible for our territoriality, our violent responses, our predatory behaviours etc.  If we can't lose or tame it, we're destined to stay as we are until we utterly destroy ourselves and this planet. And as populations increase, so will insane exhibitions of road rage, bus rage, footpath rage and all our other rages

We aspire to be better, do better, but the odds are against us.  It's the tough who're calling the shots -- the biggest, the strongest, the most ruthless.  The best of us are being trampled and destroyed. We're returning to the law of the jungle and it will get a lot worse

We took a wrong turn somewhere down the line but it's probably true to say we had no option.  We are what we are, driven by atavistic genes which predispose us baring of teeth and claws any time we feel threatened.  We're a warlike species programmed to survive, to compete, to conquer. It's why we enjoy competition and why we invest in political 'teams' and idiotic tv dance shows which are really symbolic wars.  Even our breeding habits are wars -- make more of us to overpower them, more of us will be able to beat them.  And even though we know what it's doing to us and even when we limit our own breeding, they didn't get the memo and so are continuing to breed us all into our ultimate self destruction


The NWO will have to sort it out



Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by .JaSin. on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:57am
That's all good and right and very well written PZ.
I'm with you on a hell of a lot of what you wrote.

But I think the reason why things are different is that the USA has 'too much' Freedom on its hands and for fear of being 'labelled' anything, they fail to 'discriminate' between 'anything' these days.

I used to work in a place in Parramatta area, that had extremely high care people to look after. Poor souls, they all looked like they were hit by a Chernobyl cloud of radiation.

Where do these retardations come from? Is it the excessive drug and alcohol use of parents contaminating their line? Is it having to work in chemical environments like Formaldehyde and crop dusting? Is it isolated gene pools like outback, where one eventually breeds with a relation fo some sort and the gene pool shrinks, not expands?

Either way, any Down Syndrome that gets in my cab - get's a free ride. I get a few cons who try to play "I've only got $20 of a $35 ride" halfway into the trip. I just say "Well, if you were Down Syndrome - you would have got the entire trip for free!"
Con "Oh what - I've gotta be disabled to get a free trip?"
Me "I could break your legs for you right now if you like?"
;D


The movie Alien 4 goes into 'deformaties' a bit and Ripley puts her 'retarded' versions to the torch!

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Apr 25th, 2019 at 9:03am

The Reboot wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 21st, 2019 at 12:02pm:
It is self evident that you do.


Riiight, because I'm the one making a song and dance about a new member being one of your smelly 'socks'.  ::)


Obviously.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 25th, 2019 at 3:56pm
To PZ547

PZ wrote:

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Didn't see your replies, Kiwi Dave.  Sorry


That's very understandable, given 60 to 70 percent of what get's thrown around on this board is trolling, mod stabbing, and bickering.

I've replied to you on another forum I was invited to. The thread is called "The Lettuce Thread" and is on the "Philosophy, Religion and Psychology" board.

I believe you have a PM telling you where it is. I look forward to your reply, or bye for now.

Dave

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:02pm
Isn't that pathetic.  What are you...some sort of honey trap?  Far cough.  Have the discussion here or in some other Thread here if this MRB annoys you so.  Do you reckon you can just waltz in here, throw some bait, hook alphabet numbers and then land them at the far king sewer?  As I said...pathetic.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:04pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
Isn't that pathetic.  What are you...some sort of honey trap?  Far cough.  Have the discussion here or in some other Thread here if this MRB annoys you so.  Do you reckon you can just waltz in here, throw some bait, hook alphabet numbers and then land them at the far king sewer?  As I said...pathetic.



You see Aussie,
I told you that you chased a new member away -
now - apologise!

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
Isn't that pathetic.  What are you...some sort of honey trap?  Far cough.  Have the discussion here or in some other Thread here if this MRB annoys you so.  Do you reckon you can just waltz in here, throw some bait, hook alphabet numbers and then land them at the far king sewer?  As I said...pathetic.



You see Aussie,
I told you that you chased a new member away -
now - apologise!


I obviously did not chase them away.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Violet Crumble on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:59pm
Where's Wally?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Apr 25th, 2019 at 6:10pm

Violet Crumble wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:59pm:
Where's Wally?


It seems he is over at the sewer and has been asking where I am.  Perhaps you can tell him I am here.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:27pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
Isn't that pathetic.  What are you...some sort of honey trap?  Far cough.  Have the discussion here or in some other Thread here if this MRB annoys you so.  Do you reckon you can just waltz in here, throw some bait, hook alphabet numbers and then land them at the far king sewer?  As I said...pathetic.



You see Aussie,
I told you that you chased a new member away -
now - apologise!


I obviously did not chase them away.


No yo didn’t chase me away. I just prefer to hold sensible discussions in more civilised places. PZ knows where that place is, or he will if he checks his PMs.

I’m here to stick around. But Relationships is a joke. You’re the moderator so I understand? Why haven’t you made a considered reply to PZs posts, as I have?

I also grow tedious of you accusing me of being a sock of people I’ve never heard of. My names Dave. I was born in New Zealand. Hence, I am “kiwi Dave”. Why that has caused your panties to bunch, I know not.

Dave

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:32pm

Kiwi Dave wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
Isn't that pathetic.  What are you...some sort of honey trap?  Far cough.  Have the discussion here or in some other Thread here if this MRB annoys you so.  Do you reckon you can just waltz in here, throw some bait, hook alphabet numbers and then land them at the far king sewer?  As I said...pathetic.



You see Aussie,
I told you that you chased a new member away -
now - apologise!


I obviously did not chase them away.


No yo didn’t chase me away. I just prefer to hold sensible discussions in more civilised places. PZ knows where that place is, or he will if he checks his PMs.

I’m here to stick around. But Relationships is a joke. You’re the moderator so I understand? Why haven’t you made a considered reply to PZs posts, as I have?

I also grow tedious of you accusing me of being a sock of people I’ve never heard of. My names Dave. I was born in New Zealand. Hence, I am “kiwi Dave”. Why that has caused your panties to bunch, I know not.

Dave



Hi Dave

Sorry not to reply, but I never respond to private messages these day

Sorry about my last posts too.  Was holding my eyes open at the end -- huge sleep lag & nodding off

I'll try to find the thread in question, and your posts, if not tonight, then maybe tomorrow


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Kiwi Dave on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:39pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

Kiwi Dave wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
Isn't that pathetic.  What are you...some sort of honey trap?  Far cough.  Have the discussion here or in some other Thread here if this MRB annoys you so.  Do you reckon you can just waltz in here, throw some bait, hook alphabet numbers and then land them at the far king sewer?  As I said...pathetic.



You see Aussie,
I told you that you chased a new member away -
now - apologise!


I obviously did not chase them away.


No yo didn’t chase me away. I just prefer to hold sensible discussions in more civilised places. PZ knows where that place is, or he will if he checks his PMs.

I’m here to stick around. But Relationships is a joke. You’re the moderator so I understand? Why haven’t you made a considered reply to PZs posts, as I have?

I also grow tedious of you accusing me of being a sock of people I’ve never heard of. My names Dave. I was born in New Zealand. Hence, I am “kiwi Dave”. Why that has caused your panties to bunch, I know not.

Dave



Hi Dave

Sorry not to reply, but I never respond to private messages these day

Sorry about my last posts too.  Was holding my eyes open at the end -- huge sleep lag & nodding off

I'll try to find the thread in question, and your posts, if not tonight, then maybe tomorrow


Gidday PZ,

There is no need for you to respond to the PM, just read it. As I wrote above:

To PZ547

Quote:
Didn't see your replies, Kiwi Dave.  Sorry


That's very understandable, given 60 to 70 percent of what get's thrown around on this board is trolling, mod stabbing, and bickering.

I've replied to you on another forum I was invited to. The thread is called "The Lettuce Thread" and is on the "Philosophy, Religion and Psychology" board.

I believe you have a PM telling you where it is. I look forward to your reply, or bye for now.

Dave








Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:41pm

Quote:
No yo didn’t chase me away. I just prefer to hold sensible discussions in more civilised places. PZ knows where that place is, or he will if he checks his PMs.

I’m here to stick around. But Relationships is a joke. You’re the moderator so I understand? Why haven’t you made a considered reply to PZs posts, as I have?

I also grow tedious of you accusing me of being a sock of people I’ve never heard of. My names Dave. I was born in New Zealand. Hence, I am “kiwi Dave”. Why that has caused your panties to bunch, I know not.

Dave


Sure.  Get tedious and watch me not a farq give.

You register here, start an attack campaign and then you register at another Forum (the sewer, as soon as some total random strange wanker, BO, sends you a PM and) in a nano second, there you are.  And in that nano second, you conclude it is 'more civilised.'

Almost every post you have made has had some connection (direct or indirect) to me.

You post in exactly the same style (and content) as a well known disrupter who thinks their life mission is to nudge me and they always failed.

You have done the same.  Why on Earth would a total stanger to this place and its surrounds attempt to immediately become a Mod of a MRB, particularly this one?

Who do you think you are kidding?

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:44pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

Kiwi Dave wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
Isn't that pathetic.  What are you...some sort of honey trap?  Far cough.  Have the discussion here or in some other Thread here if this MRB annoys you so.  Do you reckon you can just waltz in here, throw some bait, hook alphabet numbers and then land them at the far king sewer?  As I said...pathetic.



You see Aussie,
I told you that you chased a new member away -
now - apologise!


I obviously did not chase them away.


No yo didn’t chase me away. I just prefer to hold sensible discussions in more civilised places. PZ knows where that place is, or he will if he checks his PMs.

I’m here to stick around. But Relationships is a joke. You’re the moderator so I understand? Why haven’t you made a considered reply to PZs posts, as I have?

I also grow tedious of you accusing me of being a sock of people I’ve never heard of. My names Dave. I was born in New Zealand. Hence, I am “kiwi Dave”. Why that has caused your panties to bunch, I know not.

Dave



Hi Dave

Sorry not to reply, but I never respond to private messages these day

Sorry about my last posts too.  Was holding my eyes open at the end -- huge sleep lag & nodding off

I'll try to find the thread in question, and your posts, if not tonight, then maybe tomorrow


Don't bother alphabet numbers.  It is a deliberate honey trap.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Setanta on Apr 25th, 2019 at 9:50pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:44pm:
Don't bother alphabet numbers.  It is a deliberate honey trap.


Are you head hunting for chemtrail believing, moon landing denying, antivax promoting, etc etc, conspiracy theorists for Monks mongs now? Can you take IITL with you too?


Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Aussie on Apr 25th, 2019 at 9:54pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 9:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:44pm:
Don't bother alphabet numbers.  It is a deliberate honey trap.


Are you head hunting for chemtrail believing, moon landing denying, antivax promoting, etc etc, conspiracy theorists for Monks mongs now? Can you take IITL with you too?


If that crap is asking me if I have invited alphabet numbers to go to Monk's Forum..............as usual (with me) you are wrong.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Setanta on Apr 25th, 2019 at 10:07pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 9:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 9:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:44pm:
Don't bother alphabet numbers.  It is a deliberate honey trap.


Are you head hunting for chemtrail believing, moon landing denying, antivax promoting, etc etc, conspiracy theorists for Monks mongs now? Can you take IITL with you too?


If that crap is asking me if I have invited alphabet numbers to go to Monk's Forum..............as usual (with me) you are wrong.


Aww. Do it.

Title: Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly.
Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:14am

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