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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1550030690 Message started by whiteknight on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:04pm |
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Title: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by whiteknight on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:04pm
Unions back next school strike in Australia ahead of 2019 federal election :)
news.com.au February 11, 2019 School students striking for climate change want adults to join them for a global event on March 15, and organisers say they already have support from a growing number of unions. Despite the criticism strikers copped from Prime Minister Scott Morrison for skipping classes last year, school students around Australia are planning to walk out of school again for another rally ahead of the federal election. :) This time they are also urging adults to back the strike and also walk out for the day in solidarity. This year’s event is already being supported by a growing number of unions including the National Union of Workers, National Tertiary Education Union, United Firefighters Union, Hospo Voice, the Victorian Allied Health Professionals Association and the National Union of Students. The National Union of Workers, one of the most powerful unions in the Labor Party and part of its right-wing faction that supports Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, said it was supporting the strike and the students standing together collectively for their future. “They are inspiring leaders, and we support them in making our political leaders listen,” the union said. More than 300 academics have also signed an open letter in solidarity with the student strikers supporting their stance against Adani’s Carmichael mine and a ban on gas mining. The strikes created headlines last year when more than 15,000 students took the day off school to protest the lack of action on climate change, rallying in public spaces in Melbourne, Sydney and about 30 other cities and towns in Australia. This year’s event, coming ahead of the federal election, is expected to be even bigger with organisers telling news.com.au students are extending an open invitation to everyone in the community to join them. :) The school strike is gaining traction around the world. Australia’s March 15 event will also coincide with school protests in more than 40 other countries. The School Strike 4 Climate on November 30 was originally inspired by 15-year-old Swedish student Greta Thunberg, who has been protesting for climate change action in Stockholm. Australian students defied calls from the PM to stay in school after Mr Morrison said: “What we want is more learning in schools and less activism in schools.” They also held another protest about a week later after Adani announced it would self-fund its Carmichael mine. “We may still be in school, but we know the mining and burning of fossil fuels are driving dangerous climate impacts, including natural disasters, droughts, bushfires, and heatwaves,” 14-year-old Castlemaine student Milou Albrecht said. She said politicians had lost touch with the Australian people. “Extreme weather is all around us, and with 2019 an election year, it’s time our politicians showed leadership,” she said. “We only have a decade to prevent the worst impacts of climate change, yet our politicians are wasting time and putting our future in danger.” Fellow striker Harriet O’Shea Carre, 14, said Adani’s coal mine needed to be stopped and Australia should be put on a rapid path to 100 per cent renewable energy to ensure young people had a safe future. “As school students, we’re sick of being ignored,” she said. “We’re sick of our futures being turned into political footballs. :( “It’s time for our politicians to stop making decisions about us without us.” She said students would not stop striking until they got the action they deserved. According to a national ReachTel poll conducted after the strike, 62.7 per cent of 2345 people surveyed thought students had the right to demand action from the government on climate change. |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:12pm
Can schoolkids actually go on strike?
If a unionist goes on strike they lose pay. What do the kids lose? A day of school? That seems more like a cause for celebration. Then of course I assume they know a lot about climate change as opposed to what teachers might actually teach. If Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is right the world ends in 12 years. Why even go to school? |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:19pm lee wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:12pm:
Sure. "strike: a temporary stoppage of activities in protest against an act or condition." |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:19pm:
Which act? Which condition? They are going to strike against climate change? What if nature doesn't listen? |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:31pm whiteknight wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:04pm:
And yet IPCC observations don't support their conclusions. Only the climate models which so far have not been right. Not been verified. Not been validated. Not been calibrated. |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:34pm lee wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:24pm:
The act of mining and burning fossil fuels. The condition of a government that refuses to act. |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
To the concerns of children who don't seem to know enough about anything. There are a lot of adults in that camp too. |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 13th, 2019 at 4:35pm |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by macman on Feb 13th, 2019 at 8:28pm lee wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:12pm:
Good point Lee. Maybe they don't wish to end up more ons like yourself. |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 8:45pm macman wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
Ooh. That nearly hurt. Classes in Trig, Algebra, Chemistry, Physics, German, French, as well as the obligatory English. So now we have a definition on what makes a more on. What did you do? ;) |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by philperth2010 on Feb 13th, 2019 at 8:46pm
Not good for the Noalition going into an election with no climate policy, no certainty and no f@#king idea....The public see the chaos within the Noalition with bullying, MP's quitting the party to sit on the cross bench, Members quitting the party, turning the Murray Darling scheme into a complete disaster, no policy to address carbon emissions and sacking their second leader half way through his term....No doubt Morrison will dismiss the concerns of our youth and tell them to get back to school....This rabble must go!!!
>:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 8:58pm philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Wow. hat's quite a diatribe phil. And only one to do with climate. So tell us phil what should the carbon emissions be. Please show the science backing up any assertion. Not climate models phil. They are not science. More like a ouija board. |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:00pm lee wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:12pm:
From what I've seen, I think it's safe to assume they know more than you ::) |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:02pm John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:00pm:
Two things. 1. You think 2. You assume. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:04pm lee wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:02pm:
whereas you do neither of those things :D :D |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:09pm John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:04pm:
ok petal, I will play your silly game. What have YOU SEEN that would lead YOU to ASSUME that they know more than me? You know EVIDENCE? ;) |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:13pm lee wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:09pm:
your posts since you've joined here. |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:20pm John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:13pm:
yes petal compared to what? Which parts of science do you want suspended? Or which parts of climate models do you want suspended? |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:23pm lee wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:20pm:
compared to what I've seen from schoolkids. You really are struggling to keep up aren't you? ::) |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:35pm John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:23pm:
Seeing as you can't be specific I must assume you have no evidence. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D But do tell what have seen from schoolkids. This should be enlightening. ;) Stalking? |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by philperth2010 on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:54pm
It's gonna suck for the Coalition who can only keep their heads buried in the sand and ignore the growing noise....Morrison can only ignore the protest because he cannot promise any certainty on climate change policy....His predecessor learnt the hard way!!!
From the OP.... Quote:
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by lee on Feb 13th, 2019 at 10:06pm philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:54pm:
yeah Unlike the certainty of the child spokesperson - lee wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 2:31pm:
Nothing like the "taught facts'. ;) "So what did the IPCC's latest report say about those extremes? Not the projections but the observations. Floods "There was low confidence due to limited evidence, however, that anthropogenic climate change has affected the frequency and magnitude of floods. WGII AR5 also concluded that there is no evidence that surface water and groundwater drought frequency has changed over the last few decades, although impacts of drought have increased mostly owing to increased water demand (Jiménez Cisneros et al., 2014)" Drought "The IPCC AR5 assessed that there was low confidence in the sign of drought trends since 1950 at the global scale, but that there was high confidence in observed trends in some regions of the world, including drought increases in the Mediterranean and West Africa and drought decreases in central North America and northwest Australia (Hartmann et al., 2013; Stocker et al., 2013). AR5 assessed that there was low confidence in the attribution of global changes in droughts and did not provide assessments for the attribution of regional changes in droughts (Bindoff et al., 2013a). The recent literature does not suggest that the SREX and AR5 assessment of drought trends should be revised, except in the Mediterranean region. " Cyclones "Numerous studies leading up to and after AR5 have reported a decreasing trend in the global number of tropical cyclones and/or the globally accumulated cyclonic energy (Emanuel, 2005; Elsner et al., 2008; Knutson et al., 2010; Holland and Bruyère, 2014; Klotzbach and Landsea, 2015; Walsh et al., 2016). A theoretical physical basis for such a decrease to occur under global warming was recently provided by Kang and Elsner (2015). However, using a relatively short (20 year) and relatively homogeneous remotely sensed record, Klotzbach (2006) reported no significant trends in global cyclonic activity, consistent with more recent findings of Holland and Bruyère (2014). Such contradictions, in combination with the fact that the almost fourdecade-long period of remotely sensed observations remains relatively short to distinguish anthropogenically induced trends from decadal and multi-decadal variability, implies that there is only low confidencev regarding changes in global tropical cyclone numbers under global warming over the last four decades." Precipitation "Observed global changes in the water cycle, including precipitation, are more uncertain than observed changes in temperature (Hartmann et al., 2013; Stocker et al., 2013). There is high confidence that mean precipitation over the mid-latitude land areas of the Northern Hemisphere has increased since 1951 (Hartmann et al., 2013). For other latitudinal zones, area-averaged long-term positive or negative trends have low confidence because of poor data quality, incomplete data or disagreement amongst available estimates (Hartmann et al., 2013). There is, in particular, low confidence regarding observed trends in precipitation in monsoon regions, according to the SREX report (Seneviratne et al., 2012) and AR5 (Hartmann et al., 2013), as well as more recent publications (Singh et al., 2014; Taylor et al., 2017; Bichet and Diedhiou, 2018; see Supplementary Material 3.SM.2)." https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/chapter/chapter-3/ |
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Title: Re: Unions Back The Next Climate Change School Strike Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 13th, 2019 at 10:06pm macman wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D |
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