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Message started by Yadda on Feb 12th, 2019 at 1:49pm

Title: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by Yadda on Feb 12th, 2019 at 1:49pm


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I blame Global Warming.


;)




Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by Dnarever on Feb 12th, 2019 at 2:34pm
You would be right to do so.

Extreme weather conditions of all types were always part of the global warming theory.

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by lee on Feb 12th, 2019 at 3:56pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 2:34pm:
Extreme weather conditions of all types were always part of the global warming theory.



Yes. Well actually more extreme and more often.

So what did the IPCC's latest report say about those extremes? Not the projections but the observations.

Floods

"There was low confidence due to limited evidence, however, that anthropogenic climate change has affected the frequency and magnitude of floods. WGII AR5 also concluded that there is no evidence that surface water and groundwater drought
frequency has changed over the last few decades, although impacts of drought have increased mostly owing to increased water demand (Jiménez Cisneros et al., 2014)"

Drought

"The IPCC AR5 assessed that there was low confidence in the sign of drought trends since 1950 at the global scale, but that there was high confidence in observed trends in some regions of the world, including drought increases in the Mediterranean and West Africa and drought decreases in central North America and northwest Australia (Hartmann et al., 2013; Stocker et al., 2013). AR5 assessed that there was low confidence in the attribution of global changes in droughts and did not provide assessments for the attribution of regional changes in droughts (Bindoff et al., 2013a).

The recent literature does not suggest that the SREX and AR5 assessment of drought trends should be revised, except in the Mediterranean region. "

Cyclones

"Numerous studies leading up to and after AR5 have reported a decreasing trend in the global number of tropical cyclones and/or the globally accumulated cyclonic energy (Emanuel, 2005; Elsner et al., 2008; Knutson et al., 2010; Holland and Bruyère, 2014; Klotzbach and Landsea, 2015; Walsh et al., 2016). A theoretical physical basis for such a decrease to occur under global warming was recently provided by Kang and Elsner (2015). However, using a relatively short (20 year) and relatively homogeneous remotely sensed record, Klotzbach (2006) reported no significant trends in global cyclonic activity, consistent with more recent findings of Holland and Bruyère (2014). Such contradictions, in combination with the fact that the almost fourdecade-long period of remotely sensed observations remains relatively short to distinguish anthropogenically induced trends from decadal and multi-decadal variability, implies that there is only low confidencev regarding changes in global tropical cyclone numbers under global warming over the last four decades."

Precipitation

"Observed global changes in the water cycle, including precipitation, are more uncertain than observed changes in temperature (Hartmann et al., 2013; Stocker et al., 2013). There is high confidence that mean precipitation over the mid-latitude land areas of the Northern Hemisphere has increased since 1951 (Hartmann et al., 2013). For other latitudinal zones, area-averaged long-term positive or negative trends have low confidence because of poor data quality, incomplete data or disagreement amongst available estimates (Hartmann et al., 2013). There is, in particular, low confidence regarding observed trends in precipitation in monsoon regions, according to the SREX report (Seneviratne et al., 2012) and AR5 (Hartmann et al., 2013), as well as more recent publications (Singh et al., 2014; Taylor et al., 2017; Bichet and Diedhiou, 2018; see Supplementary Material 3.SM.2)."

https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/chapter/chapter-3/

So observations don't support most of the extreme weather events postulated. But trust them the predictions projections are robust.


Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 12th, 2019 at 5:45pm
What goes up, must come down.

More heat, greater evaporation, greater evaporation, greater precipitation.

The problem is: evaporation is happening where you don't want it and precipitation is happening where you don't want it.

;)

More "energy" in the system, more extreme events.


Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by lee on Feb 12th, 2019 at 5:52pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 5:45pm:
More "energy" in the system, more extreme events.



Yes petal except observations don't support the theory. at this time. ;)

or perhaps you think that the observations are wrong and the projections are right.

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 12th, 2019 at 7:05pm

Quote:
Strong storm brings damage - and snow - to Hawaii

HAWAII (AP) - A strong storm hitting Hawaii has knocked out power, brought down tree branches, flooded coastal roads — and even brought snow.

Snow is not unheard of in mountainous parts of the tropical island chain, but officials say the coating at 6,200 feet (1,900 meters) at a state park on Maui could mark the lowest-elevation snowfall ever recorded in the state.


https://www.kron4.com/news/national/strong-storm-brings-damage-and-snow-to-hawaii-1/1774450823

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by Bobby. on Feb 12th, 2019 at 7:08pm
What more proof do people need of a cooling climate?

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by PZ547 on Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:02pm
Snow

Wonder if Amazon will deliver some to my place pronto

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 12th, 2019 at 11:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 7:08pm:
What more proof do people need of a cooling climate?





Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by DonDeeHippy on Feb 13th, 2019 at 12:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 7:08pm:
What more proof do people need of a cooling climate?

For it not to be 42 C where I am , might be a good strart :D

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by Big Pumpkin on Feb 13th, 2019 at 3:56pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 7:08pm:
What more proof do people need of a cooling climate?

For it not to be 42 C where I am , might be a good strart :D



Forgive him father for he knows not what a fu@ken dick he is lol

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by Bobby. on Feb 13th, 2019 at 8:06pm
And now snow in Tasmania in summer:


http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/fire-floods-dust-and-snow-how-is-this-all-happening-at-the-same-time/529259


There was actually snow falling on fires in Tasmania, which Mr Narramore agreed was "pretty crazy".

"Some of those fires are still ongoing. But it's good news; at least its cooler and wetter conditions are kind of easing the fire conditions down there."

Mr Narramore said the snow got down to 900 meters overnight and the higher peaks got a few centimetres of snow. He said snow was a little unusual for February, but not record-breaking or unprecedented.

"We may see snow in Tasmania in February maybe every year or two."

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by DonDeeHippy on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 10:08am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 8:06pm:
And now snow in Tasmania in summer:


http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/fire-floods-dust-and-snow-how-is-this-all-happening-at-the-same-time/529259


There was actually snow falling on fires in Tasmania, which Mr Narramore agreed was "pretty crazy".

"Some of those fires are still ongoing. But it's good news; at least its cooler and wetter conditions are kind of easing the fire conditions down there."

Mr Narramore said the snow got down to 900 meters overnight and the higher peaks got a few centimetres of snow. He said snow was a little unusual for February, but not record-breaking or unprecedented.

"We may see snow in Tasmania in February maybe every year or two."

So is he saying it always snows every few years in Tasmania in February…… what's your point Bobby ? :D

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by The_Barnacle on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 11:47am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 7:08pm:
What more proof do people need of a cooling climate?


Bobby's just trolling. Hoping to get a reaction out of people

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by lee on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 1:58pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 11:47am:
Bobby's just trolling. Hoping to get a reaction out of people



yeah and snow in Las Vegas for the first time since 1937 is just weather.
It is only hotter that is climate change/AGW.

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by issuevoter on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 2:26pm
What astonishes me, is that among a relatively literate population, hardly any understand the weather. Doesn't matter about global warming or sea levels, most people would not know an occluded front from the dew point, and they don't care, even though they are walking around it every day. All they want to know is whether or not it's going to rain. But they expect the BOM to have a crystal ball, and advise them if something is going to happen, when they should figure it out for themselves. Its not rocket science.

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by DonDeeHippy on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 2:28pm

lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 1:58pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 11:47am:
Bobby's just trolling. Hoping to get a reaction out of people



yeah and snow in Las Vegas for the first time since 1937 is just weather.
It is only hotter that is climate change/AGW.

2017 was the hottest year ever in Las Vegas and 2018 the 4 th. Hottest year,, but hey it snowed so it’s a mini ice age hey Lee ? ;)

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by lee on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 3:21pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 2:28pm:
2017 was the hottest year ever in Las Vegas and 2018 the 4 th. Hottest year,, but hey it snowed so it’s a mini ice age hey Lee ?



Wow. How to take a quote and turn it into something not even mentioned in that quote.

truly bizarre. At least you could have said something along the lines of "global warming causes cooling", or "global warming means there will be more snow." ;)

Title: Re: Seattle Hit by Unusually Heavy Snowfall
Post by Yadda on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 3:29pm

Quote:

yeah and snow in Las Vegas for the first time since 1937 is just weather.
It is only hotter that is climate change/AGW.




plagerising lee's words.....


If there is a -20 C snow blizzard somewhere, in 2019, its just 'weather'.

But if there is a series of very hot days [a heat-wave], it is another indication of Man-made Global Warming.




ACKNOWLEDGING;

The earth may be in a warming phase, atm.

But hasn't the earth gone through naturally induced heating and cooling phases, in ages past ?



'Apparently' changes in the 'moods' our local star [our sun] can have a drastic influence upon the earths climate.

Q.
Is anyone going to suggest, that mankind has also been 'tweek-ing' [having an influence upon] how the sun is behaving ?




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