Liberal Party flew backbencher Ann Sudmalis home from New York amid fears of losing a vote

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Key points: * The Liberal Party wanted to shore up the Coalition's numbers in the final sitting week of 2018 * Ann Sudmalis remained in hiding but ultimately wasn't needed to vote * She then returned to New York to continue her three-month UN posting

hardly a secret... ;D ;D ;D ;D

so what the Libs spend their money on a sitting member   


so what?..

for people who gleefully carry on about the Govt having just one vote....who have basically had to fight a bench full of indies with agendas......

then the ABC  digs this up.....I wonder who paid them to do that?..... wouldnt be GETUP would it..

Bam must be struggling to find anything that is not anti Labor to post.

cods wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 10:19am:

hardly a secret...

You clearly haven't read the article. You should do so, then you'll learn what really happened.

Deary deary me,  what did that cost the taxpayer

Tsk tsk

Why be so sneaky and underhanded if there was nothing wrong....Not being honest and up front with the Australian people is becoming common place for the Coalition???

:-? :-? :-?

Its time wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Deary deary me,  what did that cost the taxpayer Tsk tsk

The article said the Liberal party paid for the trip. We'll see whether that's true in due course when the expense claims of MPs are released.

cods wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 10:19am:

hardly a secret... ;D ;D ;D ;D so what the Libs spend their money on a sitting member    so what?.. for people who gleefully carry on about the Govt having just one vote....who have basically had to fight a bench full of indies with agendas...... then the ABC  digs this up.....I wonder who paid them to do that?..... wouldnt be GETUP would it..

Cods as usual bagging GetUP!

she is jealous as the libs tried to launch their answer to GetUp called "The Fair Go"

Total failure website now closed couldnt get any interest!

Meanwhile GetUp is booming supported by the battlers with $5 donations

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 10:19am: hardly a secret... ;D ;D ;D ;D so what the Libs spend their money on a sitting member    so what?.. for people who gleefully carry on about the Govt having just one vote....who have basically had to fight a bench full of indies with agendas...... then the ABC  digs this up.....I wonder who paid them to do that?..... wouldnt be GETUP would it.. Cods as usual bagging GetUP! she is jealous as the libs tried to launch their answer to GetUp called "The Fair Go" Total failure website now closed couldnt get any interest! Meanwhile GetUp is booming supported by the battlers with $5 donations ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

really   

GetUp, which spent nearly $800,000 in political campaigning last financial year, has been under fire for claiming to be “independent” but in fact acting on behalf of the ALP and the Greens.



thats just the LAST FINANCIAL YEAR red..

so many $5 battlers in Australia... :D :D

would you vote for anyone who was supported By Fair Go ???

of course you wouldnt 

so many libs will never vote for someone who is helped along by such an underhand secret group....as GET UP....

you dont care who they are or what they are capable of doing..

shows how much you believe in this country.. >:( >:(

and the Democrats talk about the russians.....and ltards call them out as well...

yet GET UP who what where.. what is their agenda   apart from destroying liberals.. >:( >:( >:(

dirty politics its called you just dont see it.

just think $800.000 Labor doesnt have to admit is a donation.... >:( >:( >:( >:(

Its time wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 10:50am:

Deary deary me,  what did that cost the taxpayer Tsk tsk

"The Liberal Party paid for backbencher Ann Sudmalis to return to Canberra from New York, where she was on a three-month delegation to the United Nations."

So I assume the taxpayer paid nothing. Unless you have further info?

cods wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 12:12pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm: cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 10:19am: hardly a secret... ;D ;D ;D ;D so what the Libs spend their money on a sitting member    so what?.. for people who gleefully carry on about the Govt having just one vote....who have basically had to fight a bench full of indies with agendas...... then the ABC  digs this up.....I wonder who paid them to do that?..... wouldnt be GETUP would it.. Cods as usual bagging GetUP! she is jealous as the libs tried to launch their answer to GetUp called "The Fair Go" Total failure website now closed couldnt get any interest! Meanwhile GetUp is booming supported by the battlers with $5 donations ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really    GetUp, which spent nearly $800,000 in political campaigning last financial year, has been under fire for claiming to be “independent” but in fact acting on behalf of the ALP and the Greens. thats just the LAST FINANCIAL YEAR red.. so many $5 battlers in Australia... :D :D would you vote for anyone who was supported By Fair Go ??? of course you wouldnt  so many libs will never vote for someone who is helped along by such an underhand secret group....as GET UP.... you dont care who they are or what they are capable of doing.. shows how much you believe in this country.. >:( >:( and the Democrats talk about the russians.....and ltards call them out as well... yet GET UP who what where.. what is their agenda   apart from destroying liberals.. >:( >:( >:( dirty politics its called you just dont see it. just think $800.000 Labor doesnt have to admit is a donation.... >:( >:( >:( >:(

I would rather that cods than donations from dodgy banks, Real Estate Agents, business organisations and the like who couldnt give a stuff about the ordinary members of the public or their wellbeing!

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 11:15am:

Why be so sneaky and underhanded if there was nothing wrong....Not being honest and up front with the Australian people is becoming common place for the Coalition??? :-? :-? :-?

Always has been

cods wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 10:19am:

hardly a secret... ;D ;D ;D ;D so what the Libs spend their money on a sitting member    so what?.. for people who gleefully carry on about the Govt having just one vote....who have basically had to fight a bench full of indies with agendas...... then the ABC  digs this up.....I wonder who paid them to do that?..... wouldnt be GETUP would it..

wouldn't be GETUP would it.


I suspect that you are right - it wouldn't have anything to do with getup.

cods wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 12:12pm:

so many libs will never vote for someone who is helped along by such an underhand secret group....as GET UP....

Yes so secret
That's why they're in the news every week, send emails daily etc etc

Sooooo Secret

Anyhoo onto your next fallacy that they only support ALP/Greens.

They are against Adini, which the ALP has not produced a response yet, & will not rule out supporting.

I await the day which WILL come (if the ALP support Adini) when you post a Get Up article  ;)

Get Up is in fact Independent, it just so happens at this point in time their policies aline with these 2 parties, who knows after the drubbing expected come May & the lack of old guard LNP pollies, the Liberals just might update their agenda from the 1800's to modern day ideas & then Get Up may campaign for them against the incumbent if their policies offer a better deal on the environment or better social outcomes.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 12:12pm: so many libs will never vote for someone who is helped along by such an underhand secret group....as GET UP.... Yes so secret That's why they're in the news every week, send emails daily etc etc Sooooo Secret Anyhoo onto your next fallacy that they only support ALP/Greens. They are against Adini, which the ALP has not produced a response yet, & will not rule out supporting. I await the day which WILL come (if the ALP support Adini) when you post a Get Up article  ;) Get Up is in fact Independent, it just so happens at this point in time their policies aline with these 2 parties, who knows after the drubbing expected come May & the lack of old guard LNP pollies, the Liberals just might update their agenda from the 1800's to modern day ideas & then Get Up may campaign for them against the incumbent if their policies offer a better deal on the environment or better social outcomes.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Is that why bill shitten signed $100000   check start up money union fund to kick getup off    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

FRED. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 2:13pm: cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 12:12pm: so many libs will never vote for someone who is helped along by such an underhand secret group....as GET UP.... Yes so secret That's why they're in the news every week, send emails daily etc etc Sooooo Secret Anyhoo onto your next fallacy that they only support ALP/Greens. They are against Adini, which the ALP has not produced a response yet, & will not rule out supporting. I await the day which WILL come (if the ALP support Adini) when you post a Get Up article  ;) Get Up is in fact Independent, it just so happens at this point in time their policies aline with these 2 parties, who knows after the drubbing expected come May & the lack of old guard LNP pollies, the Liberals just might update their agenda from the 1800's to modern day ideas & then Get Up may campaign for them against the incumbent if their policies offer a better deal on the environment or better social outcomes. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Is that why bill shitten signed $100000   check start up money union fund to kick getup off    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes because at that time the Unions & Get Up where campaigning against the penalty rate cut, again their outlooks on a government policy aligned.

Seeing the outcome of the policy it would be clear to all thinking people that their influence is not as substantial as you knuckle heads would have us believe.

cods wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 12:12pm:

... such an underhand secret group....as GET UP....

What the ...?   :-/

This sort of secrecy, you mean?

https://www.getup.org.au/about/powering-getup

Donations Policy

Annual Reports

Election Reports

Australian Electoral Commission Disclosures

Donations Disclosure

Financial Information

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 2:24pm:

Yes because at that time the Unions & Get Up where campaigning against the penalty rate cut, again their outlooks on a government policy aligned.

So if at the time their policies aligned there should have been no reason to fund them. They existed, they were funded elsewhere.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 2:24pm:

FRED. wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 2:18pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 2:13pm: cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 12:12pm: so many libs will never vote for someone who is helped along by such an underhand secret group....as GET UP.... Yes so secret That's why they're in the news every week, send emails daily etc etc Sooooo Secret Anyhoo onto your next fallacy that they only support ALP/Greens. They are against Adini, which the ALP has not produced a response yet, & will not rule out supporting. I await the day which WILL come (if the ALP support Adini) when you post a Get Up article  ;) Get Up is in fact Independent, it just so happens at this point in time their policies aline with these 2 parties, who knows after the drubbing expected come May & the lack of old guard LNP pollies, the Liberals just might update their agenda from the 1800's to modern day ideas & then Get Up may campaign for them against the incumbent if their policies offer a better deal on the environment or better social outcomes. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Is that why bill shitten signed $100000   check start up money union fund to kick getup off    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Yes because at that time the Unions & Get Up where campaigning against the penalty rate cut, again their outlooks on a government policy aligned. Seeing the outcome of the policy it would be clear to all thinking people that their influence is not as substantial as you knuckle heads would have us believe.

There always bugger**** aligned  got up for gigs like you !! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Funny how the rightards are so vocal about Getup while ignoring the IPA.

How many current parliamentarians are members of Getup?
How many current parliamentarians are members of the IPA?

Bam wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 2:48pm:

Funny how the rightards are so vocal about Getup while ignoring the IPA.

Isn't the IPA a right wing version of the Australia Institute? At least the Chifley.org,au links to them.

Along with the others on the list.

lee wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 2:28pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 2:24pm: Yes because at that time the Unions & Get Up where campaigning against the penalty rate cut, again their outlooks on a government policy aligned. So if at the time their policies aligned there should have been no reason to fund them. They existed, they were funded elsewhere.

I thought you guys loved "FREEDOM" (using Mel Gibson shout)
Forces combined are stronger than forces divided, Unions reached certain people & Get Up could reach others
The Unions are free to fund whomever/whatever they want just as the banks or any other organisation are.
And yet here you lot are  :o

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

I thought you guys loved "FREEDOM" (using Mel Gibson shout) Forces combined are stronger than forces divided, Unions reached certain people & Get Up could reach others The Unions are free to fund whomever/whatever they want just as the banks or any other organisation are. And yet here you lot are

I wasn't the one raise the IPA spectre. ;)

Bur no-one was talking about forces combined/divided. I merely made the point Getup existed at the time and was funded so there was no need to separately fund them.

Do you want the list of the other "progressive" think tanks and organisations?

lee wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 3:26pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 3:02pm: I thought you guys loved "FREEDOM" (using Mel Gibson shout) Forces combined are stronger than forces divided, Unions reached certain people & Get Up could reach others The Unions are free to fund whomever/whatever they want just as the banks or any other organisation are. And yet here you lot are I wasn't the one raise the IPA spectre. ;) Bur no-one was talking about forces combined/divided. I merely made the point Getup existed at the time and was funded so there was no need to separately fund them. Do you want the list of the other "progressive" think tanks and organisations?

I never mentioned IPA either

No all good

I can take facts & form my own opinion, unlike a lot here.

Get Up are an Independent political organisation & anyone be it individual or group can choose to fund them.

Working on your assumption the LNP existed way before the IPA & their policies align on a lot of things, therefore IPA donations to the liberal party are tainted to say the least.

lee wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 3:26pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 3:02pm: I thought you guys loved "FREEDOM" (using Mel Gibson shout) Forces combined are stronger than forces divided, Unions reached certain people & Get Up could reach others The Unions are free to fund whomever/whatever they want just as the banks or any other organisation are. And yet here you lot are I wasn't the one raise the IPA spectre. ;) Bur no-one was talking about forces combined/divided. I merely made the point Getup existed at the time and was funded so there was no need to separately fund them. Do you want the list of the other "progressive" think tanks and organisations?

They are funded by donations, which is exactly what the AWU gave them.

They always need more donations.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 4:08pm:

I never mentioned IPA either

Sorry. :-[


Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 4:08pm:

Get Up are an Independent political organisation & anyone be it individual or group can choose to fund them.

Yes. It just raises doubts about that independence.


Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 4:08pm:

Working on your assumption the LNP existed way before the IPA & their policies align on a lot of things, therefore IPA donations to the liberal party are tainted to say the least.

That is backwards to what I said. The Labor Party pre-existed Get Up. Logically then
then the LNP, which pre-existed the IPA, should be giving donations to the IPA.

With friends like these: just how close are the Liberal Party and IPA?

cods wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 10:19am:

hardly a secret... ;D ;D ;D ;D so what the Libs spend their money on a sitting member    so what?.. for people who gleefully carry on about the Govt having just one vote....who have basically had to fight a bench full of indies with agendas...... then the ABC  digs this up.....I wonder who paid them to do that?..... wouldnt be GETUP would it..

Now I'll tell you the one about the tooth fairy. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D