Libs up to their usual lying !!!

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/politics/federal/peter-dutton-claims-bill-shorten-ignored-top-level-security-briefings-on-kerryn-phelps-refugee-bill-20190207-p50w7t.html

Peter Dutton admits he may be wrong in claim about Labor's top-level security briefings
Michael Koziol


Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has accused Labor leader Bill Shorten of ignoring high-level briefings by Australia's security agencies about the consequences of a key asylum seeker bill - briefings that Labor says never took place.

In a rapidly escalating war-of-words over the crucial piece of legislation, Mr Dutton revealed on radio the contents of security briefings he claimed had been given to both the government and the opposition.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton accused Labor leader Bill Shorten of ignoring top-level security briefings.
Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton accused Labor leader Bill Shorten of ignoring top-level security briefings.CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN

However, Labor quickly accused the Home Affairs Minister of "lying" about the briefings, and Mr Dutton later conceded Mr Shorten may not have actually been briefed.

"The advice to me and to Mr Shorten, certainly to the Prime Minister as well, has been consistent," Mr Dutton told 2GB radio on Thursday morning.


"Our people, having looked at the bill, believe that in a matter of weeks everybody off Nauru and Manus, essentially regardless of their medical condition, would be in Australia. If you do that, the boats restart."

"Bill Shorten now has advice, he's had briefings. The agencies have told him that this bill would be a disaster, that it would restart boats."

Mr Dutton did not say exactly who had briefed Mr Shorten, but said the advice came through the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation, along with Australian Defence Force chief Angus Campbell and Solicitor-General Stephen Donaghue.

Later, at a press conference, Mr Dutton said it was only his "understanding" that Mr Shorten had been briefed, but acknowledged that such a meeting may not have actually occurred.

"If Mr Shorten is saying he didn't make the meeting, then he should explain why," he said.

A spokesman for Shayne Neumann, Labor's immigration spokesman, said: "Peter Dutton is lying when he claims Labor has received an intelligence briefing on the Phelps bill."

Excerpts of "leaked" ASIO advice appeared in News Corp's The Australian newspaper on Thursday.

The supposed briefings relate to a series of amendments put by independent MP and doctor Kerryn Phelps, which have become a crucial test for the stability of the minority Morrison government.

Labor and the crossbench are on the cusp of having enough votes to pass the legislation against the will of the government. It would be the first time since 1929 that a government has lost a vote on substantive legislation on the floor of the House of Representatives. In 1929, then prime minister Stanley Bruce called an immediate election.


Dr Phelps' legislation would compel ministers to transfer refugees from Manus Island and Nauru to Australia on the advice of two independent doctors in Australia. The minister would have limited capacity to overrule the doctors on security grounds.

Mr Dutton argued the bill would undermine a "central pillar" of Operation Sovereign Borders, and dismissed legal advice obtained by Labor suggesting the bill is written broadly enough to give the minister sufficient power to block transfers to protect border integrity.

"I would have thought Mr Shorten would be best advised to take the advice from the director-general of ASIO, from the chief of the defence force, from the head of Operation Sovereign Borders, from the Australian government solicitor in relation to this bill," Mr Dutton told 2GB.

He dismissed Labor's legal advice as coming from a "suburban lawyer" and "Labor activist".

The government has signalled it would use Labor's support for the bill to hound the opposition on border protection through to the election.

On Tuesday, the Prime Minister claimed the bill risked allowing paedophiles, murderers and other criminals to come to Australia, and would force the government to reopen detention centres including the closed Christmas Island facility.

"This is a stupid bill," Mr Morrison said. "It's written by people who haven't got the faintest idea how this works."

On Thursday, Dr Phelps retweeted a tweet from veteran press gallery journalist Michelle Grattan accusing the government of "making very political use of ASIO", which was "what was feared when put under Home Affairs" - the super-department headed by Mr Dutton since late 2017.

He "may be" wrong.  "May"????

A queensland cop tell lies? Never! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

To think almost half the Liberal Party tried to vote this dickhead in as Prime Minister....You would think on National Security the Minister would try to work with the opposition and try to get bipartisanship before attacking them in the media over something that never happened....Dutton is so hollow he is almost transparent!!!

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macman wrote on Feb 7^th, 2019 at 4:32pm:

A queensland cop tell lies? Never! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I doubt there is a Copper on the Planet who did not tell the first lie in a 'Criminal' Court Room.

The question was:  "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God?'

The lie came in the answer which was always...."Yes."

Dutton's got some questions to answer when Parliament resumes next week.

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"Mr Potato Head" the gift that just keeps giving.

So Dutton shared confidential info to the public then?  But as minister, he can i suppose, declassify them and not get in trouble.

Bam wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 11:19am:

Dutton's got some questions to answer when Parliament resumes next week.

Iddddddddddddiot

But does ANYONE trust Labor when it is going to RESTART the BOATS and TOTALLY OPEN OUR BORDERS????

Its time wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

Bam wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 11:19am: Dutton's got some questions to answer when Parliament resumes next week. Iddddddddddddiot

On insiders Pyne said there will an investigation into the leaks.  It's only between Government MPs or the defence people who were at the meeting.

stunspore wrote on Feb 10^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

So Dutton shared confidential info to the public then?  But as minister, he can i suppose, declassify them and not get in trouble.

Yes I was wondering why the Liberals were complaining about classified information being leaked and then declassifying that information to try and hurt Labor....What is the bet the Liberal initiated white wash will find nothing???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:15am:

stunspore wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 6:44pm: So Dutton shared confidential info to the public then?  But as minister, he can i suppose, declassify them and not get in trouble. Yes I was wondering why the Liberals were complaining about classified information being leaked and then declassifying that information to try and hurt Labor....What is the bet the Liberal initiated white wash will find nothing??? :-? :-? :-?

It's not for no reason that the Libs are scared of a National Integrity Commission with full retrospective powers.

But it isn't corruption per se.  Seems more like accidental release of data because they assumed ALP did already.

stunspore wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 4:18pm:

But it isn't corruption per se.  Seems more like accidental release of data because they assumed ALP did already.

why would they assume that? Up until they leaked to the media, the media was unaware of the story. What credible evidence can they claim led them to believe the media already knew?

They leaked. Deliberately. Just as Michalia cash is now fronting court, so will Mr potatoe head eventually.

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 5:12pm:

stunspore wrote on Feb 11th, 2019 at 4:18pm: But it isn't corruption per se.  Seems more like accidental release of data because they assumed ALP did already. why would they assume that? Up until they leaked to the media, the media was unaware of the story. What credible evidence can they claim led them to believe the media already knew? They leaked. Deliberately. Just as Michalia cash is now fronting court, so will Mr potatoe head eventually.

I'm trying my best to give libs the benefit of the doubt...difficult to say the least.  Too dirty.

stunspore wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 4:18pm:

But it isn't corruption per se.  Seems more like accidental release of data because they assumed ALP did already.

What rubbish. Classified information was illegally leaked by the liberals to snooker Labor.

There would likely be traces of potato dirt all over the docs.