Karnal wrote on Jan 9^th, 2019 at 1:26pm:

None of this has anything to do with the Wall, dear. Illegal border crossings are at an all time low - down by over two-thirds since 2000. There is no "humanitarian crisis". The majority of illegal aliens in the US are visa overstayers. Most of the crime Mr Trump referred to was not done by border crossers, but as he said, "illegal aliens". The majority of drugs aren't smuggled in over the border, most come by plane or boat. Mexico will not "indirectly" pay for the Wall. This doesn't make any sense - Mr Trump didn't even try to explain it. Raising the idea of walls around politicians' homes makes even less sense. Mr Trump's trying to build a Wall, for the most part, in the middle of a desert. A government shutdown won't pay for the Wall either. No president has ever cut off government funding under similar circumstances. Imagine, 800,000 US employees are now off work or working for no pay at all. The 5.7 bil won't even pay for the Wall, just one year's funding in an estimated 28 billion project over many years. All experts say this is a huge underestimation of the total cost. Feel free to stick to the topic, Aquascoot. You don't care about the Wall, you're just here to defend a "strong, confident leader". Others, however, defend Mr Trump solely because of the Wall. They see it as a race issue - "they're rapists, murderers, they bring in drugs and some, I assume, are good people". The Wall is essentially a race issue - keeping out people from "shthole countries". It's not a humanitarian crisis and we all know this. The only humanitarian crisis has been the detention of illegal border crossers and the removal of their children. Mr Trump has created a problem, and now, he wants to present a solution. But a wall is not the solution. Mr Trump said he'd been asked by border security officials to build a wall. This is false. There have been no formal requests, suggestions or reports from ICE or any other agency requesting a wall. The reports, which Democrats and Republicans in congress have already acted upon (and funded) recommended more electronic surveillance. Mr Trump has changed the design from a "big beautiful wall - not a fence" to steel fenceposts so that border police can see through. They specifically recommended against a wall. A wall would actually hinder their work. They don't want the very thing Mr Trump promised - a fortress that would block off the murderers and rapists and keep them out of sight. Did you know? The nearly 2 billion already funded by government to secure the border has not even been spent. In a "humanitarian crisis", Mr Trump hasn't even got to work on what border officials have requested, and what the congress and senate have already funded. And this, from a property developer "who builds things", who always comes in "ahead of time and under budget". Mr Trump's speech was surprising in that it just reiterated what Mr Trump's already said. Nothing was announced - no emergency powers or military intervention. It was a last-ditch effort from a president who is utterly out of his depth, and possibly in his last days. This is certainly the feeling in the White House by all accounts. Mr Trump is desperate to fund a core erection promise that no one wants or needs. Mr Trump, as president of the United States, is blindly tilting at a windmill. He doesn't even care about the Wall, he's just worried he'll have no political clout if he doesn't at least try. Maybe, but he's not going to get it, so why try so hard? Obama, with all his concessions and deals, finally got health care through a Republican house and senate. Mr Trump can't get his Wall through a Republican house and senate. Why would he succeed now?

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tickleandrose wrote on Jan 10^th, 2019 at 11:51am:

Using color of the skin - a mere reflection and absorption of light as basis for one's action and quality is both infantile and ignorant.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 10^th, 2019 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 9:19pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:47pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:41pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:27pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:14pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:12pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:07pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 7:56pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 7:53pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 7:51pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 7:47pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 7:11pm: Nobody would care if the Sudos weren't causing so many problems. Their poor public profile is brought about by their behaviour. That's all it is. Colour has very little to do with it. That's right, Homo. Nobody would care whether the Sudos were Boongs, Gollywogs, Tree Monkeys or just blacks = bad. Colour has very little to do with it. You got it. As far as multiculturalism goes I don't want to hear about imported problems. Imported problems make me realise how stupid our politicians are. I despise these people more than the Sudo crims. So why are you talking about Sudos? This one's about blacks. What were you saying about colour? It's you who is making this issue about colour. All I'm bothered about is a migrant group who are 77 times more represented in the legal justice system  than the wider community in Victoria. If the were pink with purple poka dots I'd still mention them. So why are you raising this particular tinted race in a thread about banning blacks? I was responding to the part of the thread about  the colour black being associated with everything bad and how it colours peoples perceptions of the negroid Karnal. Didn't you read what Jasin wrote? You're talking about Sudos. What do they have to do with blacks? Because Sudos and African's in general display behaviour I'm not to keen on. Get on youtube and watch a white funeral and a black funeral. At a white funeral you'll see the women wiping their eyes with a hankerchief and a few people quietly crying. At a black funeral they wail and try to rush the coffin. African's have real issues with extreme behaviour related to impulse control. That's why they shoot each other over rubbish. I find it worrying. Another ethnic group like this are Maori. Yes, but what do they have in common? Over represented violent criminality. Poor impusle control. There's nothing wrong with talking about this stuff., It should be talked about more. Sudos, Maoris and, forgive me for saying this, blacks? I suppose they are considered black people. How about Boongs? Aborigines? Never thought about it.

Karnal wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 11:53am:

The Donald understands it perfectly because he is the very epitome of the durr state, dear. His entire life to date has been accumulating tacky baubles in an attempt to show how great he is. Gold-plated lifts, fake Renoirs, the most expensive private yacht in the world that he bought only to say that he had the most expensive yacht in the world. The money? It all came from his dad and investors who lost their shirts. The truth is the Donald owns the most kitch apartment in the world, full of fake Louis IV furniture and gold-plated fittings. The Donald lives the durr state, dear. He's a spoilt rich kid who's been carried on the "narrow path to success". He has no idea of how Fat Steve and Janeen live, just that in Amerika, they value all that krap. The Donald thinks this makes him "respectable". The Superior Man sees a man in the durr state - a man incapable of governing his own life. The Donald values krap. He has no sense of work, drive or integrity. He sells the Trump brand as the mark of success, but no one in the US can invest because of the bankruptcies - no bank or insurer will underwrite it.The Trump brand is a financial risk because of the Donald. The "narrow path to success" is paved with discipline, integrity, honesty, compassion. All the great books and teachings tell you this. The Donald is the only man to sell a series of ghostwritten self-help books that instruct people on to get one over the other guy. Just imagine: books like How To Win Friends and Influence People teach listening, understanding, cooperation, win-win. The Donald instructs his followers to make the other guy lose. The other guy has to give away something dear to him to satisfy the Donald. He calls this an art. You?

Karnal wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 5:14pm:

No, Aquascoot, all presidents do not immerse themselves in the durr state. They surround themselves with capable staffers who try to keep them out of it. You know, chiefs of staff to help plan their time, senior cabinet members to advise them and help run the government, security advisors to give them the best intelligence, political advisors to help them plan tactics. The Donald? He won't work with a chief of staff, hence he has hardly any planned meetings or appointments. Most of his days are blocked out as "administrative time". This is where he watches TV and Tweets. In the last week, he's had 3 official meetings. He's now playing golf in Mar a Lago. On average, the Donald spends 3 to 4 hours a day in the Oval Office, compared to past presidents who spent 9 or 10, before they rushed off to state dinners. With the exception of the odd sports team, the Donald doesn't host them. He prefers to eat McDonalds in his room. The Donald doesn't take much advice, which is a good thing. Over 60% of his cabinet have either been fired or quit (his favourite was arrested for lying to the FBI). Even the Donald's loyal Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is rumoured to be leaving after less than a year. After years of being ignored, his last secretary of defence finally quit, giving the Donald a letter explaining why. The Donald patted him on the back and said how great James Mattis was. The Donald doesn't read letters, so the press had to tell him what was in it. The Donald then fired the man believed by most in Washington to have been the last grown-up in the Donald's cabinet. The nerve! You can't quit - you're fired. The Donald doesn't listen to security advisors or intelligence either. He even tells the heads of the CIA and NSA to go back to school - what would they know? The Donald wants them to listen to him! It's unknown where the Donald gets his intelligence from because he only has about one security briefing a week and never reads the daily reports. Fox News is the most likely source, along with a strangely Russian take on foreign policy no one has worked out where it comes from. The Donald's political advisors are now mostly facing jail time, but he does listen to Fox News hosts. The Republicans are blaming Hannity and Judge Janine for talking the Donald into shutting down the government and creating all that hassle for nothing. The Donald's paid advisors can't even get him to read an autocue. Mind you, he listens to his attractive daughter, the lovely Ivanka. She helped the Donald host the Apprentice, so she has some experience in political planning and working with Congress to draft policy. But I'm curious. I have a question I'm dying to answer, dear. We call a politician who makes fake promises to get erected a salesman, right? We call one who pretends he's a victim of his own security forces a trickster. So what do we call one who gets impeached for lying about having sex with that woman, hypothetically speaking? Cheers, dears.

Karnal wrote on Feb 6^th, 2019 at 11:16am:

The government does NOT need that drama, Aquascoot, and they can name the three branches of government. That's their job. The public are dismayed by the Donald's Tweets. His staffers and cabinet are even more dismayed. Many have resigned over them. Polls show that around 70% of voters think he should focus on his job. Even his loyalists, Fat Steve and Janeen, say he should cut down on the Tweets and act more like a president. The US presidency runs the world's biggest military. It's responsible for US security and foreign policy, which includes other countries' security. The Donald is undermining this all on his own. His party disagrees with his stance, the intelligence community clearly disagrees, and the general public disagree. The Donald's foreign policies are counter-productive and unanimously unpopular. Chinese tariffs have decimated some US exports, particularly agriculture. His sanctions on Iran oppose the consensus of the rest of the world, who continue to trade. Obama's deal worked. Iran ceased its nuclear program. The Donald has welched on the deal. Then there's Syria and ISIS - completely out of step with US intelligence. Imagine, the president has an entire agency who's job is to give him foreign intelligence, and the Donald brushes it aside. The Donald has another agency telling him about the Mexican border. The Donald ignores them and pretends crooks murderers and drug smugglers are coming over the border. None of them are. All those crooks he mentions entered the US on visas. The drug and gun caches laid out for the media? Seized at entry check points. So I'm curious. Do you think world leaders should create fake, counter-productive and even dangerous policies to entertain the masses? And no, dear, I don't feel cheated. I've been telling you this all along.

KangAnon wrote on Feb 14^th, 2019 at 9:30am:

Classic light, backed into a corner, spams an entire page worth of posts to cover it up. The thread boils down to you complaining about a decision on here you didn't like because it meant you cannot attack others here accusing them of supporting child porn. You've tried to change the goal posts to pretend you have a genuine concern about the issue, despite being handed on a silver plater the means by which you can take action to at least attempt to prevent the South Park imagery that was the basis for your complaint and the original topic of this thread, but you refuse to do anything about it, eroding even the slightest notion of your motives being genuine. It is there for all to see. As usual, I see no point in going around in circles with this.  You won't budge, you'll refuse to accept reality or "see the light" and we'd just be wasting everybody's time, as was always the case when you'd been confronted with evidence you can't handle.  When you get stuck on spam and silly memes, we all know you've lost. I'll leave this thread, you'll make some other absurd claims or personal attacks, it will go ignored and you'll think you've won. As long as everything is ok in your own little reality yeah? I honestly thought you might have come back a better person after your break. Wrong.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 14th, 2019 at 9:30am: Classic light, backed into a corner, spams an entire page worth of posts to cover it up. The thread boils down to you complaining about a decision on here you didn't like because it meant you cannot attack others here accusing them of supporting child porn. You've tried to change the goal posts to pretend you have a genuine concern about the issue, despite being handed on a silver plater the means by which you can take action to at least attempt to prevent the South Park imagery that was the basis for your complaint and the original topic of this thread, but you refuse to do anything about it, eroding even the slightest notion of your motives being genuine. It is there for all to see. As usual, I see no point in going around in circles with this.  You won't budge, you'll refuse to accept reality or "see the light" and we'd just be wasting everybody's time, as was always the case when you'd been confronted with evidence you can't handle.  When you get stuck on spam and silly memes, we all know you've lost. I'll leave this thread, you'll make some other absurd claims or personal attacks, it will go ignored and you'll think you've won. As long as everything is ok in your own little reality yeah? I honestly thought you might have come back a better person after your break. Wrong.

KangAnon wrote on Feb 13^th, 2019 at 8:32pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 13th, 2019 at 8:19pm: And I know this to be 100% true because I've just checked the links I posted and it seems that in quoting them the links broke and don't work. Here are the links, for the last time. Use them, don't use them, I don't care. But what you do next dictates your motives and makes your intent on this subject clear for everyone to see. Episode Rating: M Link Contact the Classification Board to complain about the rating Link How to report suspicious behaviour online Link Report offensive or illegal content Link But for the record, you are literally the only person in the world complaining that this is Child Exploitation Material... I've looked.  It's not even mentioned on Wikipedia or even those silly Christian Mothers groups. It is literally only you.  And you're not doing anything about it... You're not special, you've not stumbled on a hidden truth, there is no conspiracy, you're just trolling.  It's very telling about you that you'd exploit this very real and serious issue in this way. The evidence is there for all to see. You've been exposed.

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Whats the best way to start up the boats? Take an insignificant passing of a bill that only affects existing detainees - and shout from the rooftops that this is such a great opportunity for people who might arrive by boat. The cynicial and totally irresponsible opportunism of the government over this bill - putting our border security directly at risk - is shocking and despicable. If boats do start up again, it will be because Morrison, not Shorten, laid out the welcome mat.

KangAnon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2019 at 1:26pm:

Tell me this, do you know how the drugs enter the country? Here is a "hint", it's through the ports of entry.  We know this because of statistics released by the Government of their official agencies who fight this. It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with that? We also know that when it comes to crime, those in the US illegally make up a very small percentage of the perpetrators. It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with reducing Crime, Rape and Murder like the President claims? We also know of those illegals, the vast majority don't enter the US via illegal border crossings but instead overstay after legal entry. It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with that? If the problem is so severe that it necessitates a National Emergency, why is the solution proposed so off the target? From the evidence, including those showing that all the incidents that Trump and his supporters are claiming we need a wall to resolve have been on a decline over the last 40 years and some are even at all time lows. It's almost as if there is no emergency...? This is what people mean when they say you have no evidence to support your claims. It is a 100% politically motivated proposal to help Trump in the 2020 election that is exploiting laws, bypassing the constitution and disrespecting the country and their people. Trump and his supporters are not, and never have, taken an evidence-based approach.  This time, however, he's taken it a step too far and not even the normalising of his standard dishonest behaviour can protect him this time.  Disrespecting the constitution, the people and the country is something not even his fellow Republicans will take lying down. 25th Amendment. Imagine if these actions that he's taken become normalised. Imagine a far left President using the National Emergency Powers to force anything from allowing abortion (due to overpopulation or for the safety of mothers) on a federal scale, enforcing Gun restrictions because the streets have become a warzone or taking real action on climate change? Is this a door you really want to forever be left open?

That is a good post

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 21^st, 2019 at 2:36pm:

That is a good post Spot

Indeed.

It needs bumping.


KangAnon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2019 at 1:26pm:

Tell me this, do you know how the drugs enter the country? Here is a "hint", it's through the ports of entry.  We know this because of statistics released by the Government of their official agencies who fight this. It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with that? We also know that when it comes to crime, those in the US illegally make up a very small percentage of the perpetrators. It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with reducing Crime, Rape and Murder like the President claims? We also know of those illegals, the vast majority don't enter the US via illegal border crossings but instead overstay after legal entry. It's a very simple question, how will the wall help with that? If the problem is so severe that it necessitates a National Emergency, why is the solution proposed so off the target? From the evidence, including those showing that all the incidents that Trump and his supporters are claiming we need a wall to resolve have been on a decline over the last 40 years and some are even at all time lows. It's almost as if there is no emergency...? This is what people mean when they say you have no evidence to support your claims. It is a 100% politically motivated proposal to help Trump in the 2020 election that is exploiting laws, bypassing the constitution and disrespecting the country and their people. Trump and his supporters are not, and never have, taken an evidence-based approach.  This time, however, he's taken it a step too far and not even the normalising of his standard dishonest behaviour can protect him this time.  Disrespecting the constitution, the people and the country is something not even his fellow Republicans will take lying down. 25th Amendment. Imagine if these actions that he's taken become normalised. Imagine a far left President using the National Emergency Powers to force anything from allowing abortion (due to overpopulation or for the safety of mothers) on a federal scale, enforcing Gun restrictions because the streets have become a warzone or taking real action on climate change? Is this a door you really want to forever be left open?

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 4:58pm:

only a true mentally retarded buggerwit would try to turn this terrible attack by white people on a police officer, into an anti black thread.

Well said sir!


8-)

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 25^th, 2019 at 10:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 4:58pm: only a true mentally retarded buggerwit would try to turn this terrible attack by white people on a police officer, into an anti black thread. Well said sir! 8-)

Indeed.

Someone's budgie smugglers are obviously too tight.

What a horrible little racist he is.

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 2:53pm:

I'd be tempted to, Brandon, sure. But I'd also be looking at the evidence and listening to what Pell's barrister presumably said about beyond any reasonable doubt. I have doubts that the victim could not easily have made up a story to attack Pell and the Catholic Church. I also have doubt, as Pell said, that there wouldn't have been plenty of people milling around after a service of that size. Why would Pell put himself at such risk? I have doubt, legitimate I think, that Pell would do something like this in a church after a mass. One thing Pell does have is a deep-seated belief in the rituals and sanctimony of the Catholic Church. Pell is most definitely a holier-than-thou kind of guy. The look on Pell's face when he was told of these charges was genuine, I think. You could see the blood rise straight to his head and face. It is indeed a farcical charge - a priest of Pell's stature pulling out his dick and orally raping two boys as punishment for breaking into the priest's chamber. Pell's right - it's a ludicrous claim, even if true. These are all doubts, Brandon. They've also caused me to doubt the 7.30 Report allegations made about Pell in his younger days in Melbourne. As the court ruled, none of that was provable, could easily have been misconstrued or didn't meet the threshold for a criminal act. When I saw the witnesses describing their claims, I was convinced. I believed Pell was guilty for sure. The court found otherwise. What I'm saying is I have reasonable doubts that have not been put to rest. I think for a trial of this magnitude, we should be presented with the evidence the jury went on. Members of the Catholic Church have come out to confirm these doubts, and I can understand them perfectly. Without the evidence, Pell is being turned into a martyr.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 18^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

A racist Islamophobe (am I allowed to call him that?) walks into 2 mosques and shoots nearly 100 people. You then have a clearly disturbed contributor here literally celebrating the attack, and apparently someone else has said that she wishes all muslim men women and children to die. Apart from that we have another long time member routinely calling for the entire Australian muslim population to be forcibly interned into detention camps, while several others regularly calling for mass deportation and wholesale bans on anything Islamic. Whatever you say about the muslims here or their spineless apologists, never have they said anything remotely comparable to this about any contemporary Islamist attack. When faced with this very real toxic, and downright dangerous culture being nurtured and fostered on this forum - the exact same culture that this terrorist emerged from on other forums - you dismiss it by flippantly referencing a poster who left over 6 years ago. What I'm trying to say FD, is that the posters who use this forum to air their offensive bigotry might be the next Brenton Tarrant, or inspiring and motivating him. And I think its about time you started taking such unhinged and inciteful bigotry more seriously.

Karnal wrote on Mar 18^th, 2019 at 12:16pm:

Oh, indeed. If anything, their hate speech has increased since the attack. It's grown into a frenzied justification of neo-Nazi terrorism, along with the attempt to howl down comments on white supremacism. Note how quiet FD's been on the subject. For him, Muslims present the biggest global threat to Western democracy. FD will never admit that ethno-nationalism is a far bigger threat, despite the FBI and European terrorist watchdogs having pointed this out for years.  Nationalist populism now represents a clear danger to Western values, not to mention the economy. Just look at what Brexit's done to the UK - or what Trump's done to the standing of the US. FD would rather chase you around over hypothetical 8th century killings than address the biggest existential threat to the Enlightenment tradition since the rise of fascism in the 1930s and its subsequent holocaust. FD refuses to comment on Trump, Brexit or even last Friday's massacre - the only terrorist attack to have been carried out in New Zealand, and possibly Australia if you discount the Martin Place siege and the shooting of Andrew Chan. It certainly has the biggest death toll. If we ever needed it, this massacre confirms the very real threat of white supremacism. Even Trump has commented on it, using the term "ethno-nationalism" for the first time. But for FD - what sound does a jellyfish make?

goldkam wrote on Mar 18^th, 2019 at 8:08pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 7:44pm: I'm voting for One Nation and the Shooters Party - stuff the Libs and Labs One Nation has no clear policy direction, they just have a smothering of generalised principles that have not basis or structure to them. They want to implement Trump style policies in Australia which are discriminatory and have no basis other than a reactionary policy. To add onto that One Nation believe they are scientists and climate scientists and deny climate change despite the fact 97% of scientists agree it is occurring and to varying extents caused by humans.  They also want to: - Withdraw from the Paris Agreement  - "We do not believe that further stringent measures or regulations are required regarding licensing" After the current event this policy is quite appalling - Travel Ban When a party website has two sentences for policies under the Higher Education tab, you really have to question the depth, scope and capabilities of this party. In relation to the Shooters Party....this is the ill informed party who want to weaken our gun laws into a US style system. Look at where the US is at.

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2019 at 12:48pm:

Here's the thing ... you, Setanta, the rest of you .... the basic premise of your argument is wrong. You simply cannot be reasoned with because your foundation is polar extremes from where it needs to be to achieve the most beneficial outcome for the entire world, moving forward. To you guys, it's all about sides. Us and them. Your targets rotate a little but it's always a dichotomy of warring sides. The whole premise of everything you've said since Christchurch is that it happened to "them". The braver of you go on to say "for a change". Overlooking utterly that these were residents of New Zealand who have and had far more in common with you and i than some terrorist jihadi. But you all lump them in with the terrorist jihadi because you draw a blank with their religion. As though that is the sum total of person. I instead, when i think of Christchurch think of people, ostensibly like me, who were gunned down in a part of the world so unaccustomed to such things, people probably didn't joke about it being an outside prospect. It's also a country that shares very close ties with our country. Most importantly, the killer was from here. Now, we get back to sides. You have, by virtue of assessing Christchurch as an attack on "them" and even arguing positions of the murderer, assigned yourself a 'side' ... if sides are to be assigned. And it's you assigning them. Feeling a bit sheepish now? Whereas i, exactly as i have with every instance of loss of life owing to violence i have ever heard about in my living memory, taken the side of the victims. They didn't cut off anyone's head. Or perform FGM. Or throw a gay off a building. They were, more than likely, law abiding Kiwis assembled to practice their faith that we can extrapolate from the overwhelming majority of those who share that faith, they intended to embody peacefully. And these people are our brothers and sisters. They are not responsible for anything done in the contorted name of their religion. For if you hold them to account for the sins of people they share a commonality with, then you must accept some responsibility for Tarrant. You simply can't have it both ways.

Valkie wrote on Apr 1^st, 2019 at 5:44pm:

A workplace fatality doesn't just affect the family of the man killed His workmates, extended family, even other people outside the workplace are affected. Several years ago, a man died after slipping on oil His mate gave him a light kick in the ribs and told him to stop mucking about When he didn't move he checked him and found no pulse First aid were called immediately But the poor sod was dead when he hit the ground, caved in his skull. His mate who jokingly kicked him never worked again The magistrate was a baseturd pushing the guy almost to suicide. The first aiders then quit, they could not work there any more Several other worked quit, they lost a mate and didn't want to be where it happened The safety manager retired through severe depression, even though there was nothing he could have done, he was also suicidal after the magistrate pontificate for ever. The owner lasted a short while and sold the business, putting off remaining staff. Safety is everyone's business And You are responsible for both your own and everyone else's safety A slip can kill you Be careful out there It's dangerous

cods wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 4:22pm:

I think we have had enough violence in our history to prove it DOESNT WORK>

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 9:25am:

Yadda, you are a disgrace to humanity. You turn every subject into an Islamophobic hate rant.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 11:47am:

CerealBrain is a 'gluten' for punishment and has attracted creatures from the trees to the smelly piles he deposits.

On a roll!  8-)

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

The majority of boat people refugee applicants have been shown to be refugees..... and none to date allowed entry has become a terrorist or anything like it... https://www.aph.gov.au/about_parliament/parliamentary_departments/parliamentary_library/pubs/rp/rp1415/asylumfacts Posted for the umpteenth time... https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1617/Quick_Guides/Offshore#_Percentage_of_asylum_2 Around 80% are proven to be genuine refugees...... a severe contrast with  with 'onshore' asylum seekers.... HALF (50% ) of 'onshore' asylum seekers are approved, as opposed to 80% of 'offshore'. https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/asylum-seekers-refugees-and-human-rights-snapshot-report/2-onshore-detention-and I think many of you could educate yourselves on the facts about asylum seekers - ALL kinds... and not listen to the media and the fear mongers for political advantage ......

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20^th, 2019 at 11:58am:

Whinge. whinge. whinge and whine, that is all we hear from the Xenophobes. What they refuse to recognise is that Australia has a reducing birthrate.   Therefore, we have an aging population.  With fewer young people to support the older generation(s) in their old age.   Without migration, we would be well and truly stuffed.   Without third world immigrants, we would have no one willing to do the dirty jobs they don't want to do.  These are facts of life in 21st century Australian society. We are not a self-sustaining population.  We are not a self-sustaining society.   We are not isolated from the rest of the world and it's political and immigration movements.   We can control the numbers that come and we can, to a lesser extent the places they come from.    No immigration group has failed to assimilate, despite what the Islamophobes and Racists claim.   Ever immigration group has been subjected to the same slurs and hatreds, be they Irish or Italian or Greek or Yugoslav or Lebanese or Indochinese or Muslim or African all they are received with is hatred from the no-hopers who cannot or will not compete with them and expect an easy life handed to them on a platter.   Tsk, tsk.   ::)

8-)

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2019 at 1:17pm:

Americans believe they should be allowed to own a gun 'cause you have a right to own a gun, rather than a demonstrated need to own a gun.

cods wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 6:28pm:

we do get a fair share of rain gordy   we just dont know how to save it for future use..we have amazing resources ... even snow....but we are a nation of "waste'

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 9:45am:

Jasin wrote on May 20th, 2019 at 9:56pm: Corey Legge (Australian) The Wind never ceases in September. Love listening to this, looking out to sea. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=corey+legge+songs&&view=detail&mid=E633A14D8D84BCE5A510E633A14D8D84BCE5A510&&FORM=VRDGAR Even had a nice FB conversation with him once, when I was a Radio presenter. Does community radio count?

;D

greggerypeccary wrote on May 23^rd, 2019 at 12:48pm:

Saw this on the news last night: "Do not use a member run board if you do not accept the standards applied by the moderator. While the rules outlined here apply to the entire forum, moderators of member run boards may go beyond them and be as strict, biased, vague, or whatever, as they want. Diversity of moderating style is encouraged rather than conformity to universal standards. If you have a problem with the moderation, please take it up with the moderator via PM or on their board. If you do not get a satisfactory resolution, cease using the board. Do not post complaints about moderation on the feedback board. This will result in your suspension from the feedback board and/or the member run board in question."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1558578786/3#3


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From Effendi's Rules: Quote: Member run boards Do not use a member run board if you do not accept the standards applied by the moderator. While the rules outlined here apply to the entire forum, moderators of member run boards may go beyond them and be as strict, biased, vague, or whatever, as they want. Diversity of moderating style is encouraged rather than conformity to universal standards. If you have a problem with the moderation, please take it up with the moderator via PM or on their board. If you do not get a satisfactory resolution, cease using the board. Do not post complaints about moderation on the feedback board. This will result in your suspension from the feedback board and/or the member run board in question. Yes, FD.....best sort Gordon out, ey?

KangAnon wrote on May 24^th, 2019 at 7:42am:

juliar wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 11:03pm: The Lefties are devastated to learn that their beloved foreign funded and controlled GetUp! terrorists who tell them what to say and think are going to have their water cut off by DUTTO. The GetUp! terrorists are on borrowed time just waiting for the axe to fall. Like a turkey just before XMAS!!!! So, you're just going to ignore what you don't like, keep peddling your baseless lies? Quality. I guess facts and reality were never really your strong suit.  No wonder you don't like GetUp!. Looks like I nailed it, KangAnon wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 9:03pm: The point is, none of what you're saying is born from any sort of personal concerns, they're ideologically driven and you're being told what to say, and what to be outraged over. The reason you can't reply is that you don't really understand the issue to begin with, you've just got talking points you repeat.  Since they don't cover "why" you don't like GetUp!, or how to deal with entities you do like who do worse than GetUp!, you'll just revert back to name calling and personal attacks. You're more transparent than glass.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 7:48am:

... if someone makes an accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...

KangAnon wrote on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

The reason I never trusted him was because of his history pre-politics. All I knew of Donald Trump was that he was that rich guy in Home Alone 2 at The Plaza Hotel. (Christmas Tradition, every year we watch Die Hard, Home Alone and Home Alone 2 ever since I was young) Then 9/11 happened. As I was about to leave to ride to school, the 2nd plane hit.  We stayed home that day as we had friends who live and worked in New York, some in the WTC.  I didn't really know them but it shook my parents. From then on it was a massive topic around the house.  Thankfully our friends were fine but some at ground zero on the day. Then we saw that Donald Trump was credited with searching for survivors in the rubble and we heard from our friends that this wasn't true.  He arrived in a suit, took some photos and then he and his entourage left.  We didn't really have such ready access to the internet back then so there was no way to check or get more information, so we just had to trust them. I've also got Scottish relatives on my father's side who lived in Aberdeen.  They also never had anything nice to say about Trump because he said such petty things about the people who he was trying to force to sell their homes and threatening them in the media, lied about them and the dangers of Wind Mills because he wanted ocean views from the course, not windmills. It didn't take long to learn more about him after that.  Reading his books, his history and more recently the content of his twitter from 2009 you got a real insight into the type of person he is. What we were hearing from our friends in New York didn't help.  The city, despite what Trump's fans may say, doesn't like him nor do they think they own him credit for saving the city.  He got millions and millions of dollars from the local government for his developments with no requirement to pay it all back, money that could have gone to bettering the city rather than Trump.  And many of the developments he did with great subsidies were not great successes. But he and his supporters claimed they were and he was owed a debt of gratitude. He's a loud mouth liar who unfairly taints the idea of a typical New Yorker.  He will attack people, especially women, very personally and thinks that makes him a great, powerful and strong man. I've never liked him which is why I couldn't believe firstly some of the things he said very early on in the campaign but also I couldn't believe that anyone else did believe them. He's lucky that he was on the apprentice for so long and had people who admired his character's wealth and power.  They don't know the true Trump and now that he's President, they don't want to. Yet he keeps lying.  Now that he's in the spotlight, people are finding out from his past alone, just how much of it was blatantly untrue.  He was so desperate to be seen as better than he was that he even posed as his own publicist... He is truly pathetic and weak, and that was before the 2016 election. TLDR, his actions before and after entering politics paint him, very accurately, as one of the most dishonest politicians we've ever had so high in politics in the US and even AU (which includes Abbott) and a petty, weak, vindictive and devastatingly fragile ego-driven man.  I am not surprised that I immediately assume that claims he's makes are false, the only question is how false. That's why fact-checking is so important.

Raven wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2019 at 8:49pm:

As posted in another thread. The absolute nerve of this bloke. The bloke has been earning a million bucks a year for quite a few years and is now asking strangers to pay for his legal fees. Unreal. He's trying to frame this as a great fight for freedom of speech and freedom of religion. But it's not. He's fighting a breach of contract. Oh but he was happy to throw his religious beliefs out the window a few years ago when, in an effort to gain lucrative sponsorships, expand his fan base and boost his profile he appeared on the front page of a gay newspaper! This isn't about freedom of speech or freedom of religion. It's about money. That is all he cares about.

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:28am:

well do you agree all children should be punished for their fathers sins?... its a conundrum   no one has the answer too....look Mrs Milate had 14 children....only one became infamous...... how many children follow the same pattern as their fathers???... I am on the side of kids....I like to believe every child should be given an opportunity if you call them names or have too high expectations  then expect to be disappointed.....its up to us to make this as normal as possible....be optimistic  and not pessimistic   might help..

tickleandrose wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 10:56am:

Look, the issue is very simple here.  Folau made an offensive comment on social medial that is against the code of conduct.  That is why he was fired.  Had he being a non christian, and made the same comment, the same would happen as well.  So this is not a question of religions freedom, but rather code of conduct activities.  There are plenty of Christians out there.  And you dont see them going around uttering non sense that gays are going to hell.  In fact, you will see alot of Christians out there, in the community helping out marginalized people including those of LGBTI communities. I think whoever in the Australian Christian lobby is handling this issue should be fired.  Its no wonder church attentions are declining over the years especially among young people.

KangAnon wrote on Jul 9^th, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Someone is butthurt (maybe literally?) with their obsession being exposed aren't they Ms Light?

Poor light, try not to choke on your latest obsession when you're not uncontrollably posting emotional threads about me.

How many threads have you started fantasising about women with male genitalia now?  I've spotted at least 3 but I'm too afraid to look for more,

Michelle Obama a Man.. ?

Jacinda Ardern was Born a Dude !

Frederica Wilson is a MAN

And that doesn't even count all the times you bring it up in other peoples threads.

Looks like you could use a drink...

https://media.tenor.com/images/50ae8f5940666e564710cb878faf9a36/tenor.gif

Free rent init.

Given your fragile and emotional state, all is forgiven.

Sad Kangaroo:


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Mods, can you please do something about Light accusing people of being Paedophiles again? It's getting rampant.  I stopped counting weeks ago after it reached 10 accusations but it hasn't stopped, and that's just me alone. Surely this is one of those situations that it "depends" on right?

Well said.

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 2:45pm:

Then you haven't read the thread, dear, but no worries, I'll help you out. The world's biggest source of slavery is indentured workers - illegal migrants who are blackmailed to work for a pittance. One of the biggest markets for this form of human trafficking is the good old US of A. I have also identified Nepalese sex workers in India and Rohinga fishermen in Thailand as other similarly exploited people who work as slaves. Indeed, they have uncovered mass graves in Southern Thailand of Rohinga refugees - the ones, mainly older people, women and children, who couldn't be put to work. I hope that explains that, dear. If you don't want to explain what religion has to do with this, no worries. You're free to pick any of the tinted races you want, identify them as Muslim, and tell us all what rotters they are. You can then say that such hypothetical Muslims were just obeying their sinister prophet, thus pretending that all Muslims are at risk of doing the same as them. Then, you can say, you see? Aren't these tinted races terrible? WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE. If we say, but hang on, who said they're Muslims? You say, well, they're tinted, aren't they? And we say ah. Cunning, no? It's worked for you for many years, and if anyone asks any pesky questions, you brush them aside as apologetic blowflies. You'd pass them off as Islamic blowflies if you could, but the only Muslim on this site is smarter, fairer, nicer and far more articulate than you. FD keeps asking him really dumb questions to catch him out, and in the process, proves what a silly old sausage FD is. Also, the Muslim's not tinted, which disqualifies him from being the Ooga-booga you're really out to get. So unfair, no? You'd think they'd at least play by the rules and be tinted. FD would be happy if they just confessed to being Muslim. Hypothetically, I mean.

Ouch  :)

Bam wrote on Jul 19^th, 2019 at 12:09pm:

Why do you assume this privatised police force is there to help the unemployed? It shows how little you really know. They are there for one reason only - COMPLIANCE. Scrapping them and the associated red tape would save billions without any impact on services because they hardly provide any services. The Coalition only introduced them because their mates are making an absolute mint out of this bloated gravy train and the Coalition get paid kickbacks. Labor's not got clean hands either - have a look at what Kevin Rudd's wife does for a living. And it's a massive waste of money. Many of these providers operate out of offices that are only open for one day a week. How much money is being wasted renting all of those offices? That alone is sufficient to show that the system is bloated and it can be streamlined with deep cuts without any impact on services at all. A better model: abolish the privatised providers, abolish the other compliance burdens and ridiculous red tape imposed on the unemployed, reinstate the CES and introduce a Job Guarantee. So much money can be saved by scrapping the current bloated system that the savings could easily fund a $75 a week increase to Newstart. Alternatively, it can fund enough work for a Job Guarantee paying award wages for three days' work a week for every unemployed worker in the country.

KangAnon wrote on Jul 31^st, 2019 at 6:14am:

Trump supporters often think they're alphas because they admire Trump and see themselves in him misunderstanding his desperate actions as that of an Alpha.  A deeply insecure, easily triggered into a twitter tantrum meltdown man-baby who has to lie about every achievement he has ever had, has to attack and lie about those around him to bring them down so he looks better in comparison, who despite being gifted one of the most incredible golden spoons and starts in life still managed to fail over and over because he has an enormous safety net, who has to pay women to have sex with him and can't handle the slighted bit of criticism or even push back from those he handpicks to be in his inner circles. Great role model...

I totally agree, in regards to Trump winning in 2020.


KangAnon wrote on Aug 6^th, 2019 at 7:58am:

You really do yourself a disservice by posting like someone who can barely grasp the fundamentals of the English language and the written word. Your hypocrisy aside, I agree with you about some of the problems with the left, but for different, real reasons, not the fanciful pseudo-psychology you employ that has the single goal of defending Trump and even rewriting history to do so. It's not just the left who are at fault, the right has some major fundamental issues that is fracturing the country.  Their hyperpartisanship is destroying their own lives. Take the farmers, they support Trump but it's his policies in trade and foreign relations that are destroying their lives and livelihoods on a scale never seen before. He's running the budget into the ground now throwing out billions more in handouts to them, all because of his trade war with China.  Even if he's out in 2020, the damage is already done. China is already going to Brasil for their Soy Beans and Russia for their Wheat.  Just because Trump is out doesn't mean they'll come back and if they do, it won't be at the same level (prices they pay for the goods) it will be lower, that's what happens when you're trying to sell from a point of utter desperate weakness. But if there is one thing Trump is good at, it's fabricating his situation to hide the desperation and weakness at the foundation. And on top of that, when the smaller Farms, the real voters, the silent majority, they won't be able to weather the storm like big agribusinesses and multinationals and they'll end up having to sell their farms to these companies who can and it will further consolidate the food industry in the US. I almost want Trump to win in 2020.  He is wrecking the country but if he leaves office before the consequences of his actions reverberate through the industries he's destroying and the economy at large, whoever is in office after him will get the blame.  He needs to face the music, people, even the most blinded hyperpartisan need to be slapped out of it. What is happening to the farmers is 100% the result of Trump's policies and that should terrify him.  Those regions with even a moderate swing will cost Trump 2020.  This is where the Dems should be focusing.  Yes healthcare is important, education is important, but these people are facing the death of an industry as we know it, all thanks to Trump, and this isn't even factoring in the hardships they're facing that will only get worse as a result of climate change, this is pure economics, driven into the ground, by Trump. Imagine farmers not being able to sustain their businesses and the US losing their food security, or even more upward pressure on food prices once the industry has been taken over by big for-profit corporations who can set the prices. America needs to wake up before it's too late. But again, I almost want Trump to win.  I want these idiots, the Mech's the Scoots, the Trump and the QTards to get what they deserve.  To reap the rewards of what they've sown. Almost. I'll still fight for what's best for the people, which is the removal of Trump come 2020, even if they'll fight against it at every step.

This might be the post of the year:


moses wrote on Aug 6^th, 2019 at 3:55pm:

The only thing I can find is 15 pages listing mass murders in America so far for 2019 if this wasn't true would it be allowed on the net, who can prove it's not true?

:)

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 16^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

Will advertise here I guess because its for an excellent cause Will be cycling in the Great Cycle Challenge for fighting Childrens Cancer. Goal is 1000 km in October. https://greatcyclechallenge.com.au/Riders/MichaelLarkin

KangAnon wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 8:33am:

Every trait he displays is that of an Omega desperate to climb the ranks but doesn't have it in him. The lies, the reality distortion, the taken credit for others work, the shirking of responsibility, the petty childish attacks, the paying women to sleep with him, he brags about being intellectually superior to others, when he's not, the twitter meltdowns, all he's missing is a neckbeard... He might be the President, but he's still an Omega... All of his success is despite himself.  If he didn't have daddy's money and the constant bailouts of friends and family he's be nothing. Never forget that. You worship an Omega...

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mothra wrote on Aug 31^st, 2019 at 2:51pm:

Christ on a bile you're a bully. You keep going on about how unpopular certain posters are, based entirely on the behaviour of the other bullies you've aligned yourself with but here's a reality check; most posters   forum don't give a flying bugger about the dramas you've embroiled yourself in. Most people don;t have an opinion either way of Aussie. They don't care who posts at Monk's and they are sick to death of this constant bullshit. Just a very vocal minority keep this up and well pleased they are that you do so much of the dirty work for them. And if you're talking about the over representation of bigots on this forum, well, that's just what it is. But there are enough here that speak out about it or at least agree with it being challenged to justify those who do's presence amongst us. Even if it casts you in an unflattering light, given your change of horses. But enough with the outcasts rubbish. Just because you have a cast of a thousand socks and plenty of conspiratorial pms to maintain your feeling of acceptance and regard, doesn't make you right or spokesperson for the entire forum ... most of whom do not even think about Aussie. Or Monk. But you keep right on feeling as though you're popular now, It's your obvious motivation. smacking school yard bullying, nothing more.

Carl D wrote on Sep 10^th, 2019 at 10:43am:

I may have mentioned this in the past but the manager of the (small) business where I used to work said last year that cuts to penalty rates were not going to make them employ one extra person or give anyone extra hours. They were just going to pocket the extra money saved. This seems to be the case with most or all businesses - large or small. Mind you, in today's economic climate you can't really blame them. But, it makes a joke of the Liberal Party's reasoning behind cuts to penalty rates though, doesn't it? Even blind Freddy could see that coming.

Karnal wrote on Oct 9^th, 2019 at 10:25am:

I agree, Greggery. Mr Trump came to Washington to DRAIN THE SWAMP. And this is the thanks he gets? So unfair. It seems to me that Mr Trump has two options: be open and transparent, as per his promise, or use every opportunity to obstruct and hide the facts. Here, Mr Trump is hiding an ambassador's political campaign contributions - exactly the sort of swamp-like behaviour Mr Trump said he was going to Washington to fix. But take Mr Trump's tax returns. Last week, Mr Trump said he wanted to release his returns, just like every other candidate since Nixon has done. Mr Trump wants to share with the American people where he gets his money from and how much tax he pays - exactly the type of transparency Mr Trump has been demanding from politicians his whole life. Mr Trump's life, after all, is an open book. He wants his voters to know where he's coming from. Mr Trump is proud of his financial affairs. They're the reason he's above politics, remember. He's a self-made man. But do you know? Mr Trump said his lawyers and accountants won't let him do it, can you believe it? So unfair, keeping his voters in the dark like that. Mr Trump's lawyers and accountants are exactly the sort of swamp-dwellers Mr Trump has always complained about. Mr Trump hopes they change their minds. We'll wait and see what happens.

Karnal wrote on Oct 18^th, 2019 at 10:09am:

I agree, dear. It shows the masterful Donald is prepared to lie and cheat in his own self-interest. It shows he likes to get one over Uncle. He'll do anything to get more money to show the Forbes Rich List each year. This is perfectly understandable. Mr Trump has learned from adversity, the good old "evolutionary blowtorch". Mr Trump has suffered great poverty and misfortune in his time. At one point, he was even considering melting down his gold elevator. Thank God last-minute benefactors came through. Imagine having to get to the penthouse in stainless steel. Never again, dear, and you're right. Mr Trump is putting these skills to bear as pres. He's making foreign aid conditional on his own self interest. He's making his staff travel miles to stay in his hotels. He's hosting the G7 in one to boost its revenue. He's even making military plans in order to keep his properties in Turkey going. Such noble self interest is good for everyone. It means more jobs for illegals, more ratings for the FAKE news, and more power for Erdogan and Putin. It really puts Trump properties on the map. The Ukrainian president should feel inspired to learn at the feet of the master. All he has to do is hand over some fake email server and pin a couple of drugs charges on Joe Biden's son. Most leaders would do this for nothing, but the Ukraine benefit by having their military aid restored. Who could ask for more than that?

Absolutely nailed it!


KangAnon wrote on Oct 29^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

He was an absolute piece of poo and we're better off without him. The problem is that there was no streamed footage for Trump to see and talk about at the time, it will never be released and there were no feeds going to the situation room playing audio, let alone showing him sobbing etc.  That cowardly piece of poo blew himself and his children up in a tunnel while being chased by dogs and thankfully there were no US soldiers in site to be hurt when it happened. But the sobbing Trump spoke about seeing, that was yet another Trump lie. That said, part of Baghdadi's power in recruiting people to ISIS is that he is a strong Alpha which given that he was a poorly performing academic who got his best scores in Art, he's a fake tough guy.  A ruthless piece of poo, but a fake tough guy nonetheless.  If Trump is trying to tarnish that image to help some of those he's already recruited lose faith in him now he's a martyr or even help reduce future recruitment I'd be ok with this lie. Sometimes the greater good can justify it. All of that said, it is interesting the more I find out about Baghdadi, the more similarities there are between him and Trump, to a point anyway. Both cult leaders, both not as smart as they say they are, both cowards and liars, both accused of raping children, both ran from war and sent others in their place and in the end both used their positions for personal gain and exploited their followers. One big difference is that Baghdadi grew up a poor farm boy with nothing to his name.  He at least rose to his position on his own... Gah who am I kidding, glad he's dead, hope it sends a message and while his actions caught up with him, I hope that's another thing him and Trump have in common.

macman wrote on Nov 5^th, 2019 at 6:16am:

So people are not being sucked in by the governments big con? The economy will never recover under this pack of incompetent fools who just have not got a clue. Bring back keating or swannie who have both saved our butts before.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5^th, 2019 at 12:57pm:

Horse racing is run by organised crime, and protected by corrupt politicians. That's reason enough to say nup to the cup. Plus, the horses are abused. Oh, and they killed one in the cup last year.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2019 at 4:16pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 15th, 2019 at 3:14pm: The ultimate aphrodisiac.....Power And Trump has POWER IN SPADES. Thanks for pointing that out, old boy. "Despite its name, sexual abuse is more about power than it is about sex. "Although the touch may be sexual, the words seductive or intimidating, and the violation physical, when someone rapes, assaults, or harasses, the motivation stems from the perpetrator’s need for dominance and control." Sexual Assault Is About Power

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 7:37pm:

What I find interesting about Israel Folau's statement is that here we have bushfires that have occurred, well in the bush.  Now people, generally in the bush, tend to be rather conservative and god fearing people and are more likely to have voted, "no" in the Same-Sex Marriage plebiscite.  Yet they are the ones being punished, according to Israel Folau's reasoning for the Government's approval of Same-Sex Marriage and  homosexuality in general, and so on and so on.  The people in the Capital Cities, where most of those liberal progressives live, where most of the Gays live aren't going to be hurt at all.  Very strange reasoning from Mr.Folau, very strange indeed for God to punish the people who believe in him the most for something other people did.  Christians are really quite strange and illogical.

KangAnon wrote on Nov 25^th, 2019 at 5:49am:

The images shows all the thing he claims to be but he never offers any proof of. Billionaire?  We've seen him vastly inflate, lie, about his wealth for decades, be it to financiers and possible even the tax department, we don't know because he won't release his tax returns. Genius?  He says he's a smart guy, a stable genius, but those who know him, those who taught him, say he's poo as poo, we don't know, because he's gone to court to hide his college transcripts. Businessman?  Well, this one is a little off because anyone can be a Businessman, but a good one?  Who bankrupts a casino, even after Daddy bails you out with an illegal and tax-free contribution? Playboy?  Playboys don't have to pay for Sex, Trump does. Philanthropist?  Tell that to his dissolved charity, his 2 million dollar fine and the evidence of him using it as a slush fund. Patriot?  He dodged a draft and said some terrible things about the country, things when others have said the same, you've called them traitors. And finally Innocent Man?  If he were innocent he could testify and clear his name, but he won't because he's not.  He's gone to great lengths to avoid testifying because his attorneys know that he said the quiet parts loud, like the "transcript".  He's too volatile and easily triggered to take the stand.  Look at the examples of him attacking the elites then someone suggests he's only jealous he's not one, then his next really he talks about how elite he is, or someone says he's too stupid to do a quid pro quo then he starts telling people who easy it would be and how smart he is.  It's only a tiny step away from him admitting he actually did it like an idiot because he's that stupid, which is why North Korea, China and Russia have been pulling his strings his entire presidency. So like all the other examples, while in a court of law he may be innocent until proven guilty, in the court of public opinion he's yet to provide any proof that he's innocent, just like all the examples above.

Karnal wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 11:50am:

They're lumped together because Putin resorted to criminal actions to see Mr Trump erected, dear. Mr Trump has since fought for Putin's interests, fighting congress to stop the Russian sanctions, pretending the Russians didn't hack the Dems, and all manner of Russian foreign policy favours, from trying to weaken NATO to pushing obscure Eastern European conspiracy theories that come directly from Russia. Mr Trump has even stepped out of Syria to allow Putin a foothold in the Middle East. Putin couldn't have asked for a better Prez, no? Putin has declared his intentions to reclaim the territory of the former Soviet Union. He did this with Georgia, and he's done it with the Ukraine. He meddles in the erections of a host of Eastern European states, such as Finland and Estonia. He's even meddled as far away as Venezuela, right near Uncle's back door. No state in or near Europe has been so brazen as challenging the borders of another. Europe has been in an unprecedented state of peace since the end of the Cold War. Putin now challenges this. He has, remember, annexed half of the Ukraine. Putin is the biggest threat to the peace in Europe, not to mention America, where he wages a war of FAKE news. It is believed that the order to shoot down MH17 could not have come from anybody other than Putin. So yes, Rich. Putin is indeed a threat to the global order. Mr Trump's support for Putin goes not only against US interests, but the entire world's. Mr Trump is probably the only member of his handpicked cabinet, his administration and both houses of government to hold these views, and do you know? These are not political views. Mr Trump doesn't have them. There is only one way to explain Mr Trump's support for Putin: Putin owns him. You?

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Karnal wrote on Dec 12^th, 2019 at 6:14pm:

Richdude wrote on Dec 12th, 2019 at 2:14pm: I can't be bothered reading your posts Sad. Maybe when your older and hopefully wiser............ Oh, yes you can. Sad writes the best posts on US politics here. He's well-briefed, up-to-date, and balanced. Considered. Nuanced. You spew out a few hostile words that have one point only: Retards versus Leftards. I'd say your ideology blinds you, but your thoughts aren't even sophisticated enough to be called an ideology. More a reaction. Your posts reflect the awareness of a clam or sea slug. Purely reactive. Give you a poke and you either close up or ooze some form of slime. You know four or five lies, and you repeat them endlessly. So yes, dear. You read all Sad's posts. You just don't have the ability to read to the end. Cunning, no?

Beautiful   :)

PZ547 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2019 at 1:55pm:

Trump's a big noisy, self aggrandising fairy and always has been which is why it's hilarious that his pussy reference has generated such interest Trump's parents paid very attractive young women to travel with them to Trump's college in order the play the role of his girlfriend his wives have been exactly what a fairy in denial would choose same with his eldest daughter caricature females As a lifelong fairy, they are Trump's idea of the type of women actual heterosexual males choose as mates/wives just give him a hairbrush, hairspray and hair dye -- let him slather on the make-up -- let him push his wives and women generally to the back -- give him lots of attention constantly -- and let him try to fake it as an alpha male … and Trump is happy gold plated nik-naks are his taste, in his ostentatious planes, apartments, accoutrements …. the US presidential Liberace he's on stage, under the spotlights, where he's always tried to position himself Trump's a big girl he'd run a mile from anything resembling pussy in truth, Ivanka is the female Trump has always aspired to be.  He made her in his preferred image.  He sees her with the radically altered face and fake boobs, and in his mind --- he's Ivanka, believing himself to be lusted after by all those straight guys beneath whom Trump would gladly position himself tragic case

I was hoping you would see that one

Spot

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2020 at 9:28am:

SadKangaroo, you're wasting your time trying to have a discussion with juliar, it's either a paid to post shill or a 'spambot' for the Liberal Party. Anything that requires a response other than it's copy and paste Liberal Party propaganda or it's usual lame insults and it gets confused and panics. Looks like that's starting to happen already. But, if you're just having fun trying to get it to have a 'meltdown' then by all means please continue...  :)

Karnal wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 9:46am:

Mr Trump's based his entire brand on being the best, dear. Gold toilets, biggest private yacht, fake Renoirs, the lot. He only ran for Prez to add more cache to the brand. He promised the world: a big beautiful wall - not a fence - that he'd get Mexico to pay for. If there's one thing Mr Trump knows, it's how to build things and get others to pay. Repeal and replace Obamacare - only Mr Trump could do this because he knows how to work with Republicans, believe me. Fix the mess in North Korea - created by Obama, of course, because he couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. Mr Trump knows how East Asian communist dictators work. Only he can save America from certain nuclear annihilation. Create jobs for all Americans. The unemployment figures are rigged. Mr Trump will create jobs just by being in the White House. In fact, his daughter Ivanka just created 17 million jobs (a little more than all US jobs created in the past three years, but you get the idea). Mr Trump will be too busy making America great again to play golf, you'll see. World leaders will treat the White House with respect again. We'll win so much we'll get tired of winning. Highest ever ratings in TV history, biggest-selling book, a landslide erection victory, biggest inauguration crowd ever, etc, etc, etc. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Bam wrote on Jan 21^st, 2020 at 11:16am:

Personal attacks, crazy-eyed lunacy and copyright infringement of third-party websites is almost the entirety of juliar's posts.

Karnal wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 10:12am:

Actually, I just spoke with someone on the ground from Disaster Recovery. The Red Cross give out $5000 to anyone who's NOT insured and has less than $10,000 in the bank. That's the criteria. NSW Housing provides temporary accommodation for low income earners and the uninsured. Welfare centres are providing demountable houses or caravans to people in the same situation. She also said the Red Cross' 10% admin cost sounds more than fair to fly down assessors, accomodate them, pay their wages, etc. These organisations - Red Cross, the Salvos, St Vinnies - also need to coordinate to prevent double-dipping. They need to check claims - with no paperwork such as a deed. Bank accounts, Centrelink, the lot. It's a big job. I wouldn't be bitching so prematurely. Fires on this scale are a learning experience for the Red Cross and others. We're going to see plenty more of these bushfires in future, so it's important that the charities get their procedures right.

goldkam wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 11:36am:

Trump is not an honourable man. He has no respect or integrity for anyone but those who will give him praise for things even if they are not moral or ethical. He calls woman slobs and pigs, won't let those who speak against him ask him questions at press conferences and continually lies to the American public. If you call this honourable your priorities and ideals are very wrong. Very wrong indeed. Your reflection of Muslims is wrong. It uses a thousands year old scripture to reflect a very inaccurate view of their actions and views. The vast majority of Muslims are good people and are practising their faith in harmony. The vast majority of Christians are good people and are practising their faith in harmony. There are bad people in every religion, society etc.., don't use that to characterise everyone as bad. Your views are the very crux of the problem with so many people in society. Stereotype and generalise because that is what is easiest. Easy is not necessarily correct.

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 12:25pm:

That's not true, Sad. Mr Trump only fakes the tan to get the leftards wetting their knickers. Same with all his lies, the Ukraine thing, even Stormy Daniels. It's the new paradigm, and Mr Trump is crushing it. It's all part of the Donald's masterful plan. That's what the leftards don't understand. If they put all their energy into vibing with Mr Trump, they could win too. It takes 5 years to study Mr Trump and learn how to walk the "narrow path to success". Okay, Trump University was closed down by the leftards, but you can do your own study by agreeing with everything Mr Trump says and repeating over and over how awesome he is. If the leftards just did that, they might get somewhere, but oh no, they prefer to get triggered by Mr Trump. After a while, it gets a bit stale, so Mr Trump has to do more and more outrageous things to trigger them even more. You wait until he tells Putin to release the footage - the leftards will be weeing all over themselves, and there Mr Trump will be, magnanimous, immovable, unshaken, the image of his tanned face being weed on by all those underage girls. Yes, he might pretend it's all fake news, but he'll secretly have a chuckle with Putin about it while he furiously Tweets about how unfair it is. And those vibing with Mr Trump's strategy for success will agree with what a great man he is. WITCH HUNT!

TOPEE !!!

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 11:27am:

This is the problem with racist self serving ass holes like Hanson....There is no denying there are problems in indigenous communities as has been highlighted by many inquiries....The Government recognized the harm past Government policies have done to Aboriginal people  (learn about history) and have promised to fix the problems....Hanson is appealing to the racist right who vote for her (Yadda) and ignoring the problems as if it has nothing to do with her of the Government....If the Government does not fix the problem who will....Not Pauline Hanson who only wants to push racism for her own disgusting political gain....This woman is a complete ass hole like her supporters!!!

Love it   :)


chimera wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:22pm:

When defending your toilet roll fortress, place rolls side on to absorb bullets.  Remember to leave some lengthways as rifle firing-points.

KangAnon wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 6:47am:

It's ridiculous that this is the man in charge. Rather than offering fixes to these states problems that require a coordinated national response, Trump instead tries to cover himself without any solutions offered. "I haven't heard anything about testing, we're testing more than any other country" I guess it's clever in a way because the call was leaked, but it shows he only cares about his image and not about the people in desperate need. Asleep at the wheel, costing lives, demanding a pat on the back and a "good job". He's a needly little bitch. It's Trump in a nutshell.  Do a crap job, get scripted public praise, enrich himself, tank the company, blame someone else, leave everyone else involved in ruin, start over and do the same thing again with a different rube funding him this time.

Karnal wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 2:06pm:

Courageous? Sad, Mr Trump stood out the front of that church and held up a Bible. Victory, he said. There he was, one man, holding up the Book of God. Facing off all the tinted races, the leftards, even evil itself. Imagine how much courage it takes to do that. Sure, Mr Trump had the place tear-gassed first, but he chose to show us all his second favourite book, after the Art of the Deal. We should all read it, he says. Which bit? All of it. Any particular chapters? It's all good. New or Old Testament? Look....

Karnal wrote on Jun 17^th, 2020 at 4:24pm:

Right. It's Hillary we need to get. The woman's a menace. She shouldn't be walking around like that, it's not safe. Her head might explode like a melon. Same as Michael Obama. He could turkey slap some innocent child with that thing. In fact if I'm not mistaken, he's facing multiple indictments for child rape, it's appalling. As for Joe, I think you're being way too kind, Rich. Joe's son, as you've rightly pointed out, is on on a Ponzi scheme that goes all the way to the top of the DNC. Soros is right in the middle of it. Hillary, Joe, the lot of them. Typical. They host a child sex ring in a pizza shop somewhere. If you're rich, you can go and order whatever you want, kids, animals, you name it. Mr Trump got invited once. He donated (he gives to everybody), but he didn't attend. He was too busy hosting charity events for his foundation and helping kids get an education with his prized university.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17^th, 2020 at 6:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 4:24pm: Right. It's Hillary we need to get. The woman's a menace. She shouldn't be walking around like that, it's not safe. Her head might explode like a melon. Same as Michael Obama. He could turkey slap some innocent child with that thing. In fact if I'm not mistaken, he's facing multiple indictments for child rape, it's appalling. As for Joe, I think you're being way too kind, Rich. Joe's son, as you've rightly pointed out, is on on a Ponzi scheme that goes all the way to the top of the DNC. Soros is right in the middle of it. Hillary, Joe, the lot of them. Typical. They host a child sex ring in a pizza shop somewhere. If you're rich, you can go and order whatever you want, kids, animals, you name it. Mr Trump got invited once. He donated (he gives to everybody), but he didn't attend. He was too busy hosting charity events for his foundation and helping kids get an education with his prized university.

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Right. It's Hillary we need to get. The woman's a menace. She shouldn't be walking around like that, it's not safe.

Considering that she had 7 terminal illnesses and a life expectancy of 10 minutes 4 years ago she is doing extremely well I would think.

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:16pm:

How Trump loses is irrelevant. Biden's already said what he'll do when the time comes to investigate. He said he'll stand aside and let justice take its course. That means the FBI looking into Stormy et al and the state of New York looking into charity fraud, etc. For all we know, New York already has the indictments waiting to go. Mike Cohen's doing three years for a crime he has Trump on tape ordering him to do. That's a slam dunk case. The only question is which jurisdiction will win the job of prosecuting. Trump's only way out is a Biden pardon. Biden would be a fool to do this - it cost Gerald Ford his re-election for pardoning Nixon. There's probably far more knives sharpened for Trump today than there were for Nixon. America is even more divided now than it was then. When Trump goes, there will be a groundswell for justice. It'll definitely be payback time. Trump of all people should know this. Soon he'll be back to being an ordinary citizen again. Let's see how he goes getting out of that.

A spot on analysis:


KangAnon wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 1:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2020 at 12:52pm: i think trump can see the next 4 years are armageddon and he is doing everything he can to lose and get the hell out Exactly and this is what Trump ALWAYS DOES. When things get tough, when his lies and bold impossible claims can no longer be supported by his "TRUMP" branding and people expect actual results or something tangible to be delivered, not just promises of it he gives up and declared bankruptcy, or in this case, apparently tries to deliberately lose the election. It's what people have been warning about all along. Trump had created so many divisions in the country all to hide his poor performance that during a time of a national, an international crisis when the country need to work together to try and control or even just slow the spread of a global pandemic, the divisions are too deep and Trump himself was still creating them around claims of the virus being a democrat hoax, masks being bad, social distancing and other measures to slow the virus being bad or leaning into the racism that fuels his supporters with "kung flu" etc. The result of all of this is what we see now, the virus is out of control int he US. And as you like to continue to point out scoot, the true infection rate is likely 9 to 10 times more than is being caught by the limited testing available.  That means there are potentially around 500,000 new infections daily. I think at this point, one would be forgiven if they started to call the virus, at least within the US, the "Trump Virus". So all those people warning that a Trump presidency would result in him bankrupting the country, they were pretty close after all.  Even before the Pandemic, his spending was out of control and things for the average American weren't improving, they were getting worse.  He's lucky in a way that the USA has been so badly hit by the Trump Virus because it covers the tracks of his complete and utter failures. So for once Scoot, I think we agree.  Trump giving up is just another example of faux Alpha he's always been. There is no doubt he's good at creating a business and personally profiting from its launch and it's clear this is his passion.  He considers himself a builder. But when it comes to the nuts and bolts of actually operating and delivering, it's like kryptonite for him. This is why he's so addicted to his rallies.  It's the "building part" of a Presidential campaign.  His problem is he won the election. He still wants to build, he still wants to get the cheers and applause for all the things he'll say he'll do. But he just doesn't have it in him to actually deliver.  He won't get the same applause as being the salesman for his business, his policies if he takes the time to work on them and actually delivers.  And it's made worse by the fact that his claims are so obviously bullshit and unachievable. Mexico will pay for the wall? Obamacare will be replaced with something better and everyone will have coverage and pay less? Make America Great Again? They're all things that sound great and get huge applause, but they are by design impossible to achieve in a way that those applauding them will be happy with the result and still applauding. So he just moves on to build the next thing. Over and over and over again, for decades, this has been Trump. When the going gets tough, he gives up. It's that simple. I applaud you Scoot for finally taking the time to pay attention and see the truth of what Trump is. There is nothing wrong with people like that, they are often risk-takers, but only because they don't really care about the outcome so long as they profit from the start-up, which he always seems to do.

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Frank wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 2:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 2nd, 2020 at 1:13pm: Harvard education for ya: will stab anyone who has the Caucacity to say that all lives matter: https://twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1278000057145491456 ;D ;D ;D ;D Harvard grad Claira Janover says she’s lost Deloitte job over TikTok ‘stab threat’ https://www.tiktok.com/@cjanover/video/6844619909612178693?referer_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2020%2F07%2F01%2Fharvard-grad-claira-janover-lost-deloitte-job-over-tiktok-stab-threat%2F&referer_video_id=6844619909612178693 @cjanover #deloitte I am on the right side of history. #blacklivesmatter :'( :'(

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 1:49pm:

A spot on analysis: KangAnon wrote on Jul 2nd, 2020 at 1:23pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2020 at 12:52pm: i think trump can see the next 4 years are armageddon and he is doing everything he can to lose and get the hell out Exactly and this is what Trump ALWAYS DOES. When things get tough, when his lies and bold impossible claims can no longer be supported by his "TRUMP" branding and people expect actual results or something tangible to be delivered, not just promises of it he gives up and declared bankruptcy, or in this case, apparently tries to deliberately lose the election. It's what people have been warning about all along. Trump had created so many divisions in the country all to hide his poor performance that during a time of a national, an international crisis when the country need to work together to try and control or even just slow the spread of a global pandemic, the divisions are too deep and Trump himself was still creating them around claims of the virus being a democrat hoax, masks being bad, social distancing and other measures to slow the virus being bad or leaning into the racism that fuels his supporters with "kung flu" etc. The result of all of this is what we see now, the virus is out of control int he US. And as you like to continue to point out scoot, the true infection rate is likely 9 to 10 times more than is being caught by the limited testing available.  That means there are potentially around 500,000 new infections daily. I think at this point, one would be forgiven if they started to call the virus, at least within the US, the "Trump Virus". So all those people warning that a Trump presidency would result in him bankrupting the country, they were pretty close after all.  Even before the Pandemic, his spending was out of control and things for the average American weren't improving, they were getting worse.  He's lucky in a way that the USA has been so badly hit by the Trump Virus because it covers the tracks of his complete and utter failures. So for once Scoot, I think we agree.  Trump giving up is just another example of faux Alpha he's always been. There is no doubt he's good at creating a business and personally profiting from its launch and it's clear this is his passion.  He considers himself a builder. But when it comes to the nuts and bolts of actually operating and delivering, it's like kryptonite for him. This is why he's so addicted to his rallies.  It's the "building part" of a Presidential campaign.  His problem is he won the election. He still wants to build, he still wants to get the cheers and applause for all the things he'll say he'll do. But he just doesn't have it in him to actually deliver.  He won't get the same applause as being the salesman for his business, his policies if he takes the time to work on them and actually delivers.  And it's made worse by the fact that his claims are so obviously bullshit and unachievable. Mexico will pay for the wall? Obamacare will be replaced with something better and everyone will have coverage and pay less? Make America Great Again? They're all things that sound great and get huge applause, but they are by design impossible to achieve in a way that those applauding them will be happy with the result and still applauding. So he just moves on to build the next thing. Over and over and over again, for decades, this has been Trump. When the going gets tough, he gives up. It's that simple. I applaud you Scoot for finally taking the time to pay attention and see the truth of what Trump is. There is nothing wrong with people like that, they are often risk-takers, but only because they don't really care about the outcome so long as they profit from the start-up, which he always seems to do.

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KangAnon wrote on Jul 6^th, 2020 at 9:39am:

This is how Trump is trying to win the election, make race an issue. Not racial equality, but whites are the victims and Trump will protect them, MAGA.  Take the country back to a time of white power. He and his media friends are characterising any BLM protest no matter how peaceful as a riot. They're changing the message of the BLM movement into one they can weaponise.  The message of the movement is that Black Lives Matter, not other lives don't, but a friendly reminder, because sadly it's still required, that Black Lives do in fact Matter. It's in the bloody name! Now the Trumpists are trying to change that narrative to one of the BLM trying to undo the past, erase the founding fathers and make the country politically correct, in their image, coming for the white man. It's bad enough as a white male that you can't ask a girl on a date without getting me too'd, now you have to lose your job for black person, lose your house for a black person, not be able to leave your keys in your car or you doors unlocked because of the civil rights act and black people living above their place. It's not even close to what's happening. It's clear for anyone to see, if they want to, the truth, but we're dealing with Trump supporters, they see what they want to see. I don't want to hear any Trumptards trying to blame the left from this point on for racial divisions in the nation.  It's not the only thing Trump is campaigning on, he's drawn the line if you want to be protected from black Americans, vote Trump. He's used the Nazi iconography in his campaign ads, t-shirts, slogans, it's not even hidden anymore. Stop supporting it before it's too late. We talk about the danger of Trump, but this is an entirely new level, a deep deep wound he's still cutting into that is going to take a very long time to heal. He needs to be stopped now.  It's not like he's doing a good job as President and in the pros and cons of things, it would be worth it to give him 4 more years...  He's been a terrible President, so terrible it's literally impossible for the average person to keep track.

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2020 at 10:57am:

Interesting take that yesterday's press conference was all about sending a signal to Maxwell: Trump has her back. Mr Trump will happily reverse five months of talking down a pandemic to stage a press conference to say things will get worse, advise the public to wear masks and start taking this thing seriously. You know, after the rest of the world did that five months ago. But it wasn't really about taking the pandemic seriously, now was it? That's all a ruse. I think it's a smart move. We need to study him. 5 years is the minimum.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7^th, 2020 at 9:34am:

Not sure how it is rejecting to point out that if you just look at the number of people who voted for a particular candidate in the 2016 US election, HIlary had more people vote for her. The electoral college has zero to do with the pooular vote and since the US system is determined by that , Trump won the 2016 US election. But why bother, you're an idiot.

Moreover, the polls ask the voting public who they will vote for, not the electoral college.

In 2016 the polls predicted that more people would vote for Clinton, and that's exactly what happened.

The polls were spot on.

Karnal wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 3:24pm:

You're talking to Rich as if he believes what he's saying, Sad. He doesn't. He knows full well it's a con-job, he's only lingering because Greggery pointed out that he was about to flee. Rich isn't interested in facts, he's playing psychological warfare. His cause is to propagate lies. That's his agenda. He knows it's krap, he's just trying to keep the ball in the air as long as he can before he ducks out to spread new ones. When has Rich ever proven himself correct on one of his claims? As soon as he omitted the source of his first dumb graph, Rich knew he was telling a Whopper. He then told another one when he said he'd try to find out. He told another when he pretended the critics were being racist. These are just tactics, Rich knows that. Rich's entire purpose here is to erect a strawman to scare off the crows. All of it - the HCQ, the America's Frontline Doctors, the face mask krap, the attacks on Fauci - they're all a hollow clang intended to drown out the roar of the most mismanaged pandemic in the world, a death toll of over 161,000 Americans, a current rate of 1600 deaths a day from coronavirus. Rich knows that. He knows that if HCQ worked it would be used. He knows there's no harm caused by surgical masks. He knows he's telling lies. He knows he's playing Trump's online attack dog in the last-ditch hope to keep Trump in power to continue to push Rich's global agenda of white supremacism. That's why Rich's shrieks of racism are so cute. He's doing it to push racism. Cunning? No. Embarrassingly transparent. Don't for a minute think Rich is dumb enough to fall for his own lies. He is only dumb enough to think you'll think he does.

Karnal wrote on Aug 18^th, 2020 at 1:20pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 18th, 2020 at 11:37am: I find it interesting and hypocritical of aqua to be having a dig considering he seems to have no problem dismissing all the deaths. Guess its the case of one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. Sure, but who's dying? Robert Trump is one of the first cases of the Superior Man dying from the virus. This shows that even those on the "narrow road to success" can experience failure. As Aquascoot says, it's a rough path indeed. One must risk all, as the Donald's brother did. He receives great honour for taking on this challenge and fighting to the end, we will remember him. The chode losers, on the other hand, will be forgotten. Lazy, bitter and disrespectful, what would you expect? Their deaths are a testament to their lives of pure garbage. The Superior Man relishes the virus as a challenge to overcome. Aquascoot himself has offered to send his vaccine to the noble Ghurkas. Fat Steve and Janeen just sit there with their hands out like junkies, waiting for their fix. The cunning Donald knows this, so he promises a vaccine to them in record time. We'll have it by November! Wartime President! Operation Warp Speed! But this is just a cunning ploy to give more to those who have all - the "noble capitalists", Jared's friends in pharmaceutical startups. Jared threw a bil at Moderna, Mr Trump threw a bil at Kodak. Don't make film, he said, make drugs. Here, have some loser taxpayer money. Make America great again. I think it's a smart move. You should study him. 5 years is the minimum.

What about this one?

The_Barnacle nailed it.  8-)


The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 27^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Aug 27th, 2020 at 1:17pm: One of those making a victim statement got it right - mentioning his 'delusion'... bloody idiot giving White Men a bad name... So when it's one of our own tribe he's an outcast, a black sheep But when he's from the other tribe "they are all the same" there's no such thing as a moderate Muslim ok got it

rhino wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2020 at 10:37pm:

Narcissistic personality traits are quite often inherited, in this case we can see through the male bloodline the validity of that fact. Trumps grandfather made his money initially from running a brothel. i.e he was a pimp. Trumps father who held Nazi sympathies obtained major contracts in specific US shipyards during WW2, it was worked out after the war that many ships from those shipyards had a coincidentally much higher rate of being targeted and sunk by the Germans. Trump and his father were sued in the 80s for refusing to rent any of their properties to blacks or minorities. Another fact is that Trump himself patterns his oratory after Hitler, this has been validated by some who have been close to him.  I dont hate trump but I certainly understand what he is, I am astonished that he has managed to obtain the highest office in the US and continue to denigrate it while being an overt racist, malignant narcissist and a pathological liar. I visited the US while Obama was in office and I did not find Americans to be anymore stupid than people anywhere, very insular perhaps but not stupid. It bewilders me why nearly 50 percent of Americans supported and continue to support him. I understand that initially there were many Americans who were completely disenchanted with their political system and made a protest vote for Trump, but hes been in office nearly 4 years and even the simplest person should be able to understand he is a fairly disgusting human being as well as incompetent. If this was a left wing President someone from the right would have taken him out by now but I think if he gets another term even the more tolerant from the left will start to question what it will take to get him out of there.

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rhino wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2020 at 10:37pm:

Narcissistic personality traits are quite often inherited, in this case we can see through the male bloodline the validity of that fact. Trumps grandfather made his money initially from running a brothel. i.e he was a pimp. Trumps father who held Nazi sympathies obtained major contracts in specific US shipyards during WW2, it was worked out after the war that many ships from those shipyards had a coincidentally much higher rate of being targeted and sunk by the Germans. Trump and his father were sued in the 80s for refusing to rent any of their properties to blacks or minorities. Another fact is that Trump himself patterns his oratory after Hitler, this has been validated by some who have been close to him.  I dont hate trump but I certainly understand what he is, I am astonished that he has managed to obtain the highest office in the US and continue to denigrate it while being an overt racist, malignant narcissist and a pathological liar. I visited the US while Obama was in office and I did not find Americans to be anymore stupid than people anywhere, very insular perhaps but not stupid. It bewilders me why nearly 50 percent of Americans supported and continue to support him. I understand that initially there were many Americans who were completely disenchanted with their political system and made a protest vote for Trump, but hes been in office nearly 4 years and even the simplest person should be able to understand he is a fairly disgusting human being as well as incompetent. If this was a left wing President someone from the right would have taken him out by now but I think if he gets another term even the more tolerant from the left will start to question what it will take to get him out of there.

Karnal wrote on Oct 17^th, 2020 at 6:09pm:

Sad, I'm sorry, that simply cannot be true. A political party in power doing these sorts of things in a democracy? In America? Impossible. Mr Trump recently appointed an old friend to modernise the US mail, a great guy. That's a good thing, right? Cutting costs and saving taxpayer dollars can't be bad for America, surely. We all need to tighten our belts. All those other things you mention preserve American democracy. Look, you don't want to register too many dark coloured people all at once, it wouldn't be fair. There have to be limits. And, you know, Mr Trump has cited thousands - maybe millions of cases where people are registering their dead aunt or their pets. Can you imagine? They get fake ID for their dogs, for example, and sign on their behalf - easy. They just tell the person who's registering them they can't make it in. No problem, they say, all good. Some people steal the ballots and send them in themselves - cunning, no? They just go round stealing everyone's mail. They have to find their signatures somehow too - I'm not sure how they do it, but they're most cunning. Mr Trump would never stoop to these sorts of tricks. He's been saying it for years. The game's rigged, he says. He actually won the popular vote in 2016, but these cheats took it away from him. You can tell how popular he is from his inauguration - the biggest turn out in history, they said, period. Far bigger than Obama. The American people want him there. Look, if a few corners have to be cut to keep him in, I can't see a problem with that, to be honest. They could start with throwing out a few votes from the black neighbourhoods. As Mr Trump says, they're too stupid to vote for him. There's a case that voters should have a minimum IQ Level to qualify. Mr Trump's smart. Top marks at school and in college, and he just knows stuff from experience. He's a self-made man. He had to claw his way up pretty much from nothing, and you know what sharks they are in New York. The worst. You have to be on your game. Mr Trump has to cut a few corners, so what? That's a good thing, no? Look at all the great things he's doing for America.

Doesn't this belong in 'My Interpretation of Relationships"?  Don't see or hear much FTR here....

Karnal wrote on Nov 7^th, 2020 at 2:33pm:

That’s all lies, Laugh. The people voted for Mr Trump. The FAKE NEWS is just calling it wrong, you’ll see. It happens all the time. Back in 2016, for example, Mr Trump had the biggest inauguration crowd in history, period. The fake news media made it look tiny. Look at Mr Trump’s rallies. Thousands of beautiful people as far as the eye can see, so much winning. People love the man. Some even claimed to have been healed. Plenty of people are saying this. It could be the positive energy, it could be God, it could be the spirit of Mr Trump himself, it’s hard to say. No one leaves a Trump rally feeling sick, that’s for sure. You don’t see anyone at Sleepy Joe’s rallies. If they go, they don’t even get out of their cars. They just sit there in their pyjamas, wallowing in their anger and resentment. Why can’t we be more like Mr Trump? They think. That’s easy. Stop being a leftard. Stand up for law and order. Fight back the blacks and Antifa. Hate them. This is what made America great, before all the blacks and Muslims and leftards came along, so racist and unfair. No, you’ll see. When Mr Trump’s finished with this election, he’ll be the winner. So stand up for Mr Trump, hate the leftards and fight for your country. Mr Trump’s doing everything he can in the courts to make sure America gets the best leader since George Washington.

Credit to Spot.

rhino wrote on Nov 7^th, 2020 at 7:42pm:

Im not a big Biden fan, but hes not Trump and thats why i suspect a lot of people voted for him. Trump is just an all round appalling human being and a pathological liar with no intellect, no moral compass and zero ethics. If he showed up at my door trying to sell me a vacuum cleaner I would kick him up the arse and send him on his way. Thats why i find it astonishing that 69 million Americans couldnt see through him.

Karnal wrote on Nov 14^th, 2020 at 11:55am:

You’ve just uncovered the Rich method, Sad. You left out the bit at the end where, when the truth is undeniable, poof! He’s gone. Trump is playing out the leadership of the free world using the exact same method: pepper the board with bullshit, and when the truth comes out, poof! Nowhere to be seen. You can see why Rich et al love him so. For them, Trump is the manifestation of their reason for being, the ultimate internet troll. Trump has it all - the conspiracies, the victimhood, the bullying. The vain, thin-skinned arrogance and pomposity. Ultimately, he has the bullshit, the most ignorant lies told with such a straight face, with such passion. This is what they admire the most, the talent Trump has, as Steve Bannon once said, to say any old crap and believe it. Trump often boasts about his lies. Watch this, he’s told journalists, as he’s gotten up to tell a howler. And afterwards, sitting down: not bad, eh? Trump wasn’t happy when Leslie Stahl pointed this out on 60 Minutes. Trump had indeed once bragged to her about his methods for tarring the press. He got these tricks from his mentor Roy Cohn, McCarthy’s legal sheister, and Trump had given Leslie Stahl the same lecture he was given, back in New York, starting out. Stahl wasn’t meant to remind him of this on air, of course, but she did, and it’s history. Trump’s methods are exposed most clearly now by his silence. His four years in the White House were only ever a PR pitch for another four years. Leslie Stahl and others all asked what he wanted to do with another four years, and Trump was always struck dumb. Do? What a strange question. Get back in, that’s all Trump wanted to do. Get the popular vote that eluded him in 2016. Get the broadsheets and the beltway and the insiders to finally admit that Trump was legit. Get them behind Trump, singing his praises like they do for Putin in Russia or Kim in North Korea. Get a little respect for once. Now, Trump’s left hopelessly trying to claw back a few hundred votes in Mid Western counties, such a nakedly desperate attempt to save face. None of it adds or gives anything to America. Trump’s not doing it to save lives or bring peace or fulfil a plan or vision, he’s just doing what he’s always done and defending the Trump brand. Trump’s caught, after all the bullshit - five years worth of lies, bullying and stirring up dissent - speechless. The people have spoken. Trump, quite simply, has nothing left to say. Rich and co know the feeling all too well. Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?

KangAnon wrote on Nov 27^th, 2020 at 7:14am:

Rich, the thing you should be outraged over, unless you still think it's a hoax, is how Trump used COVID, how he helped it spread knowing his supporters would listen to him over the medical experts like Fauci (you hate him right?  So the plan worked on you) meaning anyone who would vote for Trump would do so in person because they'd "rounded the corner" with COVID, yet anyone smart enough to see if for what it was and listen to the experts, wear their masks and socially distance where possible would like not attend polling booths on election day and either vote early or vote by mail. The latter who didn't listen to Trump over medical experts likely didn't vote for him either. So there was a divide created by Trump for his voters to vote in person, and the intelligent people who voted for Biden to vote by mail. Trump's campaign then took legal action to prevent many important states from counting these mail in ballots until after the election day ballot were counted. This created an inflated lead for Trump because the in-person votes, the people be brainwashed to vote in person during the pandemic, were counted first. It's at this point that you could see the number of votes vs registered voters was still low, but it was at this point, before the remaining legal postal votes were counted, that Trump claimed victory. He'd engineered the red mirage from the start because it was obvious he was going to lose. Then as the count continued there were attempts to "Stop the count" in districts he was ahead, and "continue the count" in districts he was behind. Now if the postal votes were allowed to be counted before the polls closed on election day, Trump wouldn't have had the leads he did and you'd have nothing to complain about. The best part is, you know all of this already.  You can't handle the truth and emotionally blurt out "FAKE NEWS!". You lost Rich. Trump Lost. He lost the election, he lost the recounts, he lost the court cases and he's even conceded (in the only way he'll ever be able to). Trump is a loser.  More people voted him out than any other candidate, any other President in the history of the United States. He's a record-breaking loser. The sooner you realise this the better. What is unforgivable about all of this is that he helped COVID spread to create the divide between his voters and Biden voters to create the Red Mirage to claim fraud and cheating by the Dems. Let that sink in.  He's lead to the infection of millions of Americans, he's killing hundreds of thousands of them and he's still killing the economy and refused to force his Republican Senate to approve the 2nd stimulus and instead go on recess for the Holidays and for what? He still lost to Biden.  How many people have to suffer financial ruin, grave sickness and death for the man's ego, for his hail mary attempt to steal the election which he and his lawyers were still too incompetent to do. All of this undermining of the basic democratic principles of the United States all for his ego!  This is exactly what people were worried Trump would do, be all about him and not the country as the President, but nobody could have predicted he'd destroy and even END so many American lives. There have been plenty of things to dislike about Clinton but nothing that would justify the calls for her death or imprisonment in GITMO like the QTards so desperately want, but if they even cared for a second about the US, they'd be calling for Trump to face the music for the death and destruction of the country in an attempt to steal the election. It's treason. How can you not only forgive all of this Rich, but SUPPORT it!? What is wrong with you..?

Karnal wrote on Nov 28^th, 2020 at 12:50pm:

I know, right? Aquascoot is already cheering on Sleepy Joe for being a WINNER. There’s Sleepy Joe, Aquascoot says, 78 years old, and he’s just won more votes than any other prez in history - 7 mil more than Mr Trump - the same number of electoral college votes Mr Trump won in 2016, a landslide. Just think what it takes to do that, Aquascoot says, standing up and striding onto the world stage - after you’ve retired. There’s Sleepy Joe, a childhood stutterer, giving speeches and doing debates with the toughest guys the Manhattan real estate market, reality TV and Fox News can create. Sharp, cunning, bright as a button. He saw his first wife die tragically, brought up three young kids, then saw firstborn son die of cancer. Sleepy Joe bounced back from the stutter, back from tragedy and depression to beat Mr Trump himself. No, Aquascoot says, we need to revere such a man, elevate him, study him. 5 years is the minimum.

KangAnon wrote on Jan 7^th, 2021 at 2:08pm:

No, so there were peaceful protests around BLM, in fact the marches were just that.  Hell, the majority of the actions of the BLM movement were entirely peaceful.  There were people exploiting the situation with looting and confrontations with "all lives matter" mobs and militias but we all spoke out against that.  The Dems spoke out against that and even the BLM leaders spoke out against that. But that's not what the movement was about.  The whole point was bringing awareness to, and fighting against violence. The counter to this is, the Trump MAGA Extremists attended with the express intent to stop the democratic process by any means necessary, armed to the teeth with guns, body armour and even riot gear to prevent Biden's election win being certified the very last time the US system requires. It was an attack on the very foundation of the country because those bitches were triggered that they lost. You will, because your side is in the wrong, and you're a maga buggerwit, try to link the two together as the same, much like people are doing the same thing with Trump abuse of his pardoning powers, but we all know the history, we all know the truth. Your time of alternative facts, fake news and just the worst bullshit lies spewed hour after hour, day after day is almost at an end.  Trump lost worse than any other President and for the first time in nearly 100 years, lost EVERYTHING.  A single term President who was impeached lost the House AND the Senate.  A complete and total failure with an empty record to show for it, other than leaving the country much worse than he inherrited it and a long list of names of all the people his rhetoric and ego-driven mishandling of COVID killed. History will not look favourably on Trump and those deplorable assholes like you who couldn't such his dick hard enough.

KangAnon wrote on May 10^th, 2021 at 9:50am:

There have already been so many recounts Yada. How many will it take for you to accept the result? Or do you just want them to keep doing recounts until you get the result you want? Trump lost. Get over it. It wasn't stolen, there was no conspiracy, he was a bad President who rode the wave of his predecessors and ran the country and the Government like one of his businesses, towards bankruptcy.  Generations will be paying for his Presidency and there is little to nothing to show for it. There are 100,000's of people dead because of Trump and his inactions on COVID-19 alone. You should be celebrating that he's gone.

Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2021 at 7:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 13th, 2021 at 4:48pm: not so aqua is here to educate and inspire We were all inspired by your own vaccination, dear. Still, it took some convincing. There you were at your Gold Coast medical centre, trying to convince the nurse to post your dose off to the "noble Gurkhas", remember? Why? She said. To help them feed their children, you said. This is a vaccine, she said. I've already put it in the syringe. Send it off, you said. They need it more than me. But the doctor only prescribed it for you. Doesn't matter. I'm sacrificing myself. Look, this is my best chance of catching covid and having a hurdle to overcome. One needs a plan to bounce out of bed each day, you see. Besides, I could use the rest. I shall use the downtime to learn a new language. Or I might go to the gym. They're closed. You see? Look at what they've done to our once proud country. Look, I've got other patients... Exactly. All lining up to take their vaccines like chodes. What happened to herd mentality? Have you heard of racehorse theory? Sorry, I... It's when great men, those on the "narrow path to success" breed their fillies. They produce offspring far superior to the chodes, who basically live lives of pure garbage. Have you heard of the big fella? No. Look... You need to study him - 5 years is the minimum. A true Alpha, a great. Excuse me, I'll need to... No, you go ahead. Put the cap on it, dear, we'll send it to Nepal. How? In the mail. Here, I'll address the envelope. Now... This needs to be dispensed. I've opened the vial. I'm not even supposed to recap the needle, it's an injury risk. Everything's a risk these days, isn't it? Look, put it back in the fridge. I can't. We'll send it registered post. It's a liquid, it's banned. You can't send vaccines either. I can't send an uncapped syringe. I'll do it. You can't do it either. It's mine. It's the doctor's. That's ridiculous. I've worked hard all my life. So what are you going to do with it? I'll take it to Pakistan and drop it... You can't go to Pakistan. Where there's a will there's a way, dear. There's no way. These are strictly monitored vaccines, to be used as prescribed. That's ridiculous. It's the law. Where would we be if Julius Caesar... Change that, where would we be if the Big Fella... You need to get your injection or leave. But the "noble Gurkhas"... They can get their own vaccines. Typical leftard response. A bowl of dirt a day, can you believe it? This is a medical practice. The leftards don't care. I tried, I suppose... So do you want your vaccine now? Yes. But I want it on the record that I tried. I'll write it down. Good. I never wanted this, you understand. I'll write that down too. I wanted to catch the virus and send my vaccine to the Gurkhas. Good. The leftards are such selfish virtue signallers... There. All done now. Oh? That was easy. You're very brave. Yes, I suppose I am. You could say I performed a civic duty. Exactly. The leftards aren't doing that, now are they? No. They're staying at home watching Netflix while the truly virtuous are out getting their shots. Oh, I know.

Congratulations, Greg. You're #1 (111111 posts).  8-)

Just noticed when I was posting in the Coronavirus section.

(If this isn't the right place please feel free to move it).

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Carl D wrote on Aug 8^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Congratulations, Greg. You're #1 (111111 posts).  8-) Just noticed when I was posting in the Coronavirus section. (If this isn't the right place please feel free to move it).

Every post a winner.

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 8^th, 2021 at 10:16pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 8th, 2021 at 12:18pm: Congratulations, Greg. You're #1 (111111 posts).  8-) Just noticed when I was posting in the Coronavirus section. (If this isn't the right place please feel free to move it). Every post a winner.

111,111 posts and about half of them are about Trump.
Greggy is the most obsessed person on this forum.

Says the writer of over 500 pages of absolute nonsense.

Can't argue with a single line in this post:


KangAnon wrote on Jan 19^th, 2022 at 2:12pm:

Trump lost his base because he's not Anti-vaxx. They don't trust him anymore. The monster he created has turned on him. They're stupid enough, like so many on here, to support him again if he ever ran, but we're not dealing with sane rational people anymore.  COVID, the Jan 6th Terror Attacks and the constant demands the election was rigged has shown these people are so stupid they're a threat to the nation. They'd rather destroy it than let anyone else be in charge, the new definition of American Patriotism. "I love my country so much I'd rather destroy it than accept a democratically elected President I don't like". Perhaps I've been too naive in thinking that the Trump supporters were just caught up in the excitement of the movement, but they, like so many on here, just struggle with lower IQs and don't know any better.

freediver wrote on Jan 25^th, 2022 at 7:06pm:

Scoot posts blatant lies and misleading claims that could get people killed. He does this repeatedly, even after being corrected. He deserves zero respect.

Karnal wrote on May 3^rd, 2022 at 6:11pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 10:26am: America has been in decline since the 60s Trump was the nation's last-gasp attempt to reduce the size and influence of government And set people back on the path of self reliance and personal responsibility which made America great in the first place Trump attempted to break up the pathological establishment But it was always going to be an impossible miracles pull off Incorrect. Figures show consistent GDP growth in the US since 1948. https://www.statista.com/statistics/996758/rea-gdp-growth-united-states-1930-2019/ The only times US economic growth has dropped to below 0% since the 60s is 1973 (the oil shocks), 1981 (Latin American loans crisis), 1991 ("credit crunch"), 2008 (GFC) and 2019 (covid). Trump made no attempts to reduce the size and influence of government. Trump added over 8 trillion dollars to US government debt in less than one term, even before covid 19, wiping out the gains made during the slow GFC recovery. Trump's own budget office called it a "national debt crisis". Trump's presidency was the biggest spending administration in US history. https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump His solution? Increase tariffs. Trump believed his trade wars would bring in revenue, paying off debt "like water". This never happened. The revenue was dished out to farmers and small manufacturers, and ultimately, the money came from American consumers anyway. Trump's trade wars turned into the ever-increasing tax-and-spend cycle that had led to the GATT and all the previous work done on reducing tariffs in the past half century. In one administration, Trump upended global supply chains, disrupted the global financial system and created inflation even before covid. Far from any election rigging, Biden got many of his votes from the farmers and manufacturers hit hardest by Trump's trade wars, particularly in the swing states Trump contested, such as Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. As dysfunctional and destructive as it was, this was the election Trump wanted to fight: the economy and global trade. This was before covid hit and Trump turned into an even bigger spender, desperately trying to save his political skin. Trump's original strategy was to ignore the pandemic to keep trade talks going with China, who he originally praised for working closely with the US. When Trump couldn't pretend anymore, he reversed to blame the pandemic on China, trying to draw attention away from his own mismanagement of what he called the "Chi-na virus". You know the rest of the story. Bleach injections, heat and light, refusing to be seen in a face mask, catching and spreading covid, spruiking fake cures and the daily, ever-increasing death toll. The Trump presidency became an even bigger joke than anyone could have ever imagined, you couldn't make it up. Ultimately, there was the election defeat, the silence, the legal attempts, the humiliating attempts to cling to power at all costs. The plots, the threats, the insurrection. It just went on and on. But do you know? I think we should remember Trump at his best, as the instigator of trade wars. This, after all, is how he really wanted to be seen: the great disrupter, the destroyer, preening to the chants of his followers: "smash it up." Trump was the embodiment of the pathological establishment you describe. He allowed government debt to increase by a third. He undermined decades of tariff reduction and work on free trade, weakening the US and global economy. He stood by as covid hit, showing his arrogance, naked self-interest and inability to lead in a crisis. Far from being into small government, Trump imagined grand projects, infrastructure schemes to rival FDR, a great, big beautiful wall from coast to shining coast, and "as you know, I can build things, believe me". This is how I think we should judge Trump: on what he promised. None of it came to fruition, not even close. Today, after the corporate tax cuts, the trade wars and all the covid stimulus costs, the US is left with nothing in the bank. No great new highways, no big beautiful walls, and a mountain of debt. The US has not been in decline since the 60s, but out of all those recessions from 1973 to 2019, the biggest recession started in 2019. Today, at -3.4%, GDP growth is the lowest it's been since 1946. https://www.statista.com/chart/24056/annual-real-gdp-growth-in-the-united-states/ Trump came to power in 2016 with a modest 1.6% GDP growth figure, which grew to 2.7% for the first two years of his administration due to Reserve Bank and Obama-era policies, and the result of an improving housing and employment market, eight years after the GFC. What happened next, however, has nothing to do with covid or the Reserve Bank. World Bank figures show a drop in growth of 0.86% from 2018 to 2019, prior to any hit from covid. This was the emerging effect of Trump's trade wars. And after covid, of course, it has been in freefall ever since. America has not been in decline since the 60s, but it may well be now. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

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What is unforgivable about all of this is that he helped COVID spread to create the divide between his voters and Biden voters to create the Red Mirage to claim fraud and cheating by the Dems.

In the end the number of republican voters that died as a result of Trumps advise on covid was almost certainly the reason he lost the election.

Yes he needed 11781 votes in Georgia, 36,000 people died and on election day many thousands were too sick to vote.

Trump shot himself in the foot over that one.

What a good idea his super spreader campaign events turned out to be so many timed perfectly to prevent his own voters from being able to vote.

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 2:25pm:

Steampipe wrote on May 9th, 2022 at 12:27pm: Trump didn't lose, America lost. Inflation is out of control, civil war could break out at any time, Putin is pushing Biden around and the media is focused on trivial issues. Thats the sad reality right now. Trump is playing golf, Biden is taking a nap while America is disintergrates. That's okay, Matty. Mr Trump didn't do anything for the last four months of his administration either. The fake news were lucky to get a picture of him whizzing past his protesters in his motorcade taking him to the golf course, remember? Twenty thousand covid deaths a week, and the only thing Mr Trump did in the White House was Tweet. RIGGED! Witch hunt! So unfair! Meanwhile, Sleepy Joe has united the leaders of the world to fight Vlad, the guy Mr Trump calls a genius. To be fair, Vlad is smart enough to not tell Mr Trump exactly what video footage the FSB have of him, but Mr Trump can imagine. This makes Mr Trump say only nice things about the guy who's threatening to nuke everybody. The worse Vlad gets, the more Mr Trump tries to say nice things about him, complaining about how weak American generals and leaders are. Vlad helped Mr Trump get a job as prez, but the American voters threw him out, so Vlad has to make do with Mr Trump as a kind of lobbyist/saboteur. Vlad would much rather America had a civil war than have any sort of functional leadership, so he's counting on Mr Trump to do his bit to start one. The Jan 6 insurrection was just a teaser. Maybe next time, Mr Trump can get the Proud Boys to stand by over at the Pentagon. Mr Trump can do a proper coup and take over for real, with Vlad calling the shots from the Kremlin. Let's face it, Mr Trump wasted his four years as prez, but he did everything he could to weaken the institution. Vlad's not too happy with Biden flying around the world rallying NATO and strengthening alliances, but he's got until 2035 as prez. His buddy Xi in China's got even longer. Imagine, Mr Trump used to complain about his lousy two terms and he didn't even get a second. And look at what Vlad gets away with - presidential palaces with gold toilet brushes and billions of rubles stashed away in offshore banks. Mr Trump couldn't even tell the Ukrainian prez to prosecute his political enemies' kids without everybody complaining about it, so unfair. You're right, Matty, the quicker America gets rid of democracy and becomes a corrupt, one-party/one-leader totalitarian state, the better. Mr Trump didn't campaign so hard for nothing, no? Anyone for golf?

greggerypeccary wrote on May 9^th, 2022 at 5:36pm:

Karnal wrote on May 9th, 2022 at 2:25pm: Steampipe wrote on May 9th, 2022 at 12:27pm: Trump didn't lose, America lost. Inflation is out of control, civil war could break out at any time, Putin is pushing Biden around and the media is focused on trivial issues. Thats the sad reality right now. Trump is playing golf, Biden is taking a nap while America is disintergrates. That's okay, Matty. Mr Trump didn't do anything for the last four months of his administration either. The fake news were lucky to get a picture of him whizzing past his protesters in his motorcade taking him to the golf course, remember? Twenty thousand covid deaths a week, and the only thing Mr Trump did in the White House was Tweet. RIGGED! Witch hunt! So unfair! Meanwhile, Sleepy Joe has united the leaders of the world to fight Vlad, the guy Mr Trump calls a genius. To be fair, Vlad is smart enough to not tell Mr Trump exactly what video footage the FSB have of him, but Mr Trump can imagine. This makes Mr Trump say only nice things about the guy who's threatening to nuke everybody. The worse Vlad gets, the more Mr Trump tries to say nice things about him, complaining about how weak American generals and leaders are. Vlad helped Mr Trump get a job as prez, but the American voters threw him out, so Vlad has to make do with Mr Trump as a kind of lobbyist/saboteur. Vlad would much rather America had a civil war than have any sort of functional leadership, so he's counting on Mr Trump to do his bit to start one. The Jan 6 insurrection was just a teaser. Maybe next time, Mr Trump can get the Proud Boys to stand by over at the Pentagon. Mr Trump can do a proper coup and take over for real, with Vlad calling the shots from the Kremlin. Let's face it, Mr Trump wasted his four years as prez, but he did everything he could to weaken the institution. Vlad's not too happy with Biden flying around the world rallying NATO and strengthening alliances, but he's got until 2035 as prez. His buddy Xi in China's got even longer. Imagine, Mr Trump used to complain about his lousy two terms and he didn't even get a second. And look at what Vlad gets away with - presidential palaces with gold toilet brushes and billions of rubles stashed away in offshore banks. Mr Trump couldn't even tell the Ukrainian prez to prosecute his political enemies' kids without everybody complaining about it, so unfair. You're right, Matty, the quicker America gets rid of democracy and becomes a corrupt, one-party/one-leader totalitarian state, the better. Mr Trump didn't campaign so hard for nothing, no? Anyone for golf?

Bananas!!! 10 Rupees!!

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 7:34pm:

That's not what Mr Trump thinks, Bobby. Remember Bill Barr? He's the guy you and the Light used to fondly call AG. A tough guy, a real Trump man. Remember him? One night, just before Jan 6 at 8pm, Bill sat down with Mr Trump and showed him. They spent nearly two hours in the Oval Office, going over every single rumour - ballot dumps, Dominion switching votes, Hugo Chavez, the lot. Bill showed Mr Trump - in detail - how the votes were counted, and where. Every contested state. Mr Trump asked him about a story he'd heard about ballot dumps in a part of Detroit. Bill told him that's how they do it there - they count all the votes in one spot. Oh, and Mr Trump won those votes. In the end, Mr Trump wasn't happy, but there was nothing he could say. AG Barr, a Trump man to the bone, had the FBI investigate the 2020 election - that wasn't even the DOJ's job, but he'd done it for the boss. Mr Trump sent Bill home. Bill quit the next day. On Jan 6, Mr Trump gave his rally speech. Bill watched. He heard Mr Trump repeating stories Bill had thoroughly debunked, including Detroit. Was Bill surprised? No. He knew how Mr Trump worked. As you know, Mr Trump told over 20,000 lies while he was in office, it's just how he ran. Read the Art of the Deal if you don't believe me, but it was no shock to Bill Barr. What Bill knew, however, is that Mr Trump knew one thing without a doubt: the election had not been stolen from him. Mr Trump had lost, and he knew it. But do you know? AG didn't need to tell Mr Trump anything Mr Trump's own family and some staff and friends like Hannity hadn't been telling him for weeks: give up. Be a man. Admit you've lost and move on. Bill didn't tell Mr Trump that, but everybody close to him did. The exceptions? Rudy. Sidney. Roger Stone, John Eastman, and the pillow magnate, Mike Liddell, who advised Mr Trump to launch a military coup. They hung around the White House, getting on everybody's nerves. Also, every one of them asked Mr Trump for a pardon - just in case. Mr Trump even asked the lawyers if he could pardon himself, over his Ukraine call and other crimes. He was told that was untested, but in all likelihood, no. That one probably wouldn't wash. Mr Trump never did end up pardoning Rudy and all the hangers-on. He never paid them either. So no, Bobby, Mr Trump had nothing stolen from him, but more importantly, he knew it. If he ever faces a court for the above crimes, and he feigns ignorance or insanity or bad advice or just bad luck, that won't wash either. Mr Trump, prez, knows better than anybody, and it hurts like hell. Look at the dumb look on his face in your meme. He lost. You?

Karnal wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2022 at 7:34pm:

That's not what Mr Trump thinks, Bobby. Remember Bill Barr? He's the guy you and the Light used to fondly call AG. A tough guy, a real Trump man. Remember him? One night, just before Jan 6 at 8pm, Bill sat down with Mr Trump and showed him. They spent nearly two hours in the Oval Office, going over every single rumour - ballot dumps, Dominion switching votes, Hugo Chavez, the lot. Bill showed Mr Trump - in detail - how the votes were counted, and where. Every contested state. Mr Trump asked him about a story he'd heard about ballot dumps in a part of Detroit. Bill told him that's how they do it there - they count all the votes in one spot. Oh, and Mr Trump won those votes. In the end, Mr Trump wasn't happy, but there was nothing he could say. AG Barr, a Trump man to the bone, had the FBI investigate the 2020 election - that wasn't even the DOJ's job, but he'd done it for the boss. Mr Trump sent Bill home. Bill quit the next day. On Jan 6, Mr Trump gave his rally speech. Bill watched. He heard Mr Trump repeating stories Bill had thoroughly debunked, including Detroit. Was Bill surprised? No. He knew how Mr Trump worked. As you know, Mr Trump told over 20,000 lies while he was in office, it's just how he ran. Read the Art of the Deal if you don't believe me, but it was no shock to Bill Barr. What Bill knew, however, is that Mr Trump knew one thing without a doubt: the election had not been stolen from him. Mr Trump had lost, and he knew it. But do you know? AG didn't need to tell Mr Trump anything Mr Trump's own family and some staff and friends like Hannity hadn't been telling him for weeks: give up. Be a man. Admit you've lost and move on. Bill didn't tell Mr Trump that, but everybody close to him did. The exceptions? Rudy. Sidney. Roger Stone, John Eastman, and the pillow magnate, Mike Liddell, who advised Mr Trump to launch a military coup. They hung around the White House, getting on everybody's nerves. Also, every one of them asked Mr Trump for a pardon - just in case. Mr Trump even asked the lawyers if he could pardon himself, over his Ukraine call and other crimes. He was told that was untested, but in all likelihood, no. That one probably wouldn't wash. Mr Trump never did end up pardoning Rudy and all the hangers-on. He never paid them either. So no, Bobby, Mr Trump had nothing stolen from him, but more importantly, he knew it. If he ever faces a court for the above crimes, and he feigns ignorance or insanity or bad advice or just bad luck, that won't wash either. Mr Trump, prez, knows better than anybody, and it hurts like hell. Look at the dumb look on his face in your meme. He lost. You?

I refute you thus - Joe Biden.

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 28^th, 2022 at 1:16pm:

Ron wrote on Sep 28th, 2022 at 11:06am: Good on Pauline for telling Senator Mehreen Faruqi to "piss off back to Pakistan". We need more politicians with the guts to take these ungrateful immigrants to task. Another leftie that doesn't understand the meaning of the word" racism". If she wants to go on about human rights and racism she only has to look at her place of birth and the persecution of Christians by the Mussies. Thank you for this well considered, thoughtful comment Ron, in support of the execrable Pauline Hanson whom you seem to see as a vision of reason and rationale. The twice divorced Hanson was a high school dropout, after getting pregnant at age 15—which marked the end of any further education. As a result, she has a very limited intellectual mindset, and a poor grasp of politics, race relations, civil law, sexual and gender issues etc. Recall, her main claim to fame(?) was running a fish and chip shop, after working as a clerical assistant and barmaid.  Obviously then she's not the sharpest tool in the toolbox LOL. On the other hand we have Mehreen Faruqi... who holds a Bachelor of Engineering, a Master of Engineering Science, and a Doctorate in Environmental Engineering. So I think we can see who's better educated and therefore far better qualified in order to work in parliament. Hanson's crude, racist insults directed at Faruqi further demonstrated her lack of formal education and her inability to move on from the 1950s days of black and white TV, 'reds under the beds' and 'the yellow peril'.

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2022 at 1:43pm:

Come come, Phil. Not only does Matty want his Dear Leader forgiven for all charges, he wants him back in the White House with total immunity. Matty loved the Jan 6 riots. Matty's favourite idea of Mr Trump's was terminating the constitution, and not just to let his Dear Leader and his followers off. Matty wants a full blown dictatorship, just like they have in Russia. You'd be surprised, quite a few posters here do. They think democracy's a leftard conspiracy. They hate justice, unless it's retribution. They despise free trade, because they think it costs them jobs, even though they're on the pension. They want a closed shop world of borders and endless wars, but more than anything, bullshit. They'll avoid facts at all cost and coat everything in krap. You can't convince them. Matty's given up talking altogether, preferring to use his safe word, Trump. This is an attempt to make you stop torturing him with reason. Matty's making a gag about triggering you, you see. After six years of promoting his Dear Leader, Matty would prefer you stopped discussing him altogether.

Karnal wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 1:51pm:

Alas, Meister, Sleepy Joe's got an uphill battle with the transition to a renewable economy. Americans were traditionally able to respond to these kinds of shifts. Industrialisation, the end of slavery, immigration, two world wars, the transition to a consumer industrial economy, the transition to a post-industrial service economy. Political leaders such as Lincoln, Eisenhower and Clinton have been instrumental in these transitions. Today, America is in the grip of a nihilistic political death cult. This doesn't drive all of America, but it's seriously dented the sides. The GOP is now largely incapable of acting constructively and getting things done. The McCains of the party, those on the legislative committees and tasked with getting things done, have gone. The new GOP, now in the grip of the Marjorie Taylor Greenes, is just out to destroy. This week, we saw Fox News conceed and make amends for knowingly broadcasting lies. These were serious lies too - they aimed to undermine the democratic process. They convinced close to a quarter of American voters that the 2020 election had been stolen and the current leadership is illegitimate. Fox is industrial-scale political propaganda. It's the largest, highest-rating news network in a country of 332 million people. It makes over $14 billion a year. It is integrated into an international print media arm that drives the global news cycle. And now, Fox acknowledges what we always knew. It is an empire based on lies. That's what Sleepy Joe's up against, Great. No past president has had to contend with such a destructive force. Trump, sure - but he was on the receiving end. Fox lied for Trump. In so doing, it undermined the entire political system. Obama had to deal with it too - hence his own inability to enact his reforms, hence his watered-down legislative attempts. In the end, Obama wasn't even able to appoint a supreme court judge - forget appoint, the GOP wouldn't even accept a nomination. Obama's Republican opposition was massaged, nurtured and amplified by Fox. There on Fox, every Friday morning, was Donald J Trump, prattling away about his Kenyan investigators uncovering shocking new details of Obama's African origins. And there was the ernest panel of seasoned broadcasters and journalists, nodding along, agreeing. In the end, Fox was not able to secure a second election win for Trump. Not after a pandemic scale litany of leadership failure, not after the death toll, the job losses, the lies laid bare and the acknowledgement that, sure, he'd lied about covid and would do it again. Instead, Fox joined Trump in propagating the big lie - that Trump had actually won and had the election rigged against him. Fox sacked the broadcaster who called Arizona. It enabled Carlson, Hannity and Pirro to spruik the big lie nightly, hours of prime time commentary devoted to vote dumps, rigged online voting machines, foreign interference and an ongoing barrage of fake news devoted to undermining the democratic process. Dominion recieved $786 million in compensation for those lies. The damage to the process is incalculable. America is the country that won its revolution, two world wars and, for better or worse, transformed the world in its image. It met great depressions and recessions and turned them around too. But today, I'm not so sure it can rise to meet those challenges. America has been subjected to a hostile foreign takeover that has undermined its very existence. It would be nice to think that presidents like Joe Biden just need to go back to negotiating with legislators in good faith, but America is beyond that now. The big lie exposes just how far some are prepared to go to destroy the political process. How do you go back to work after that? How do you sit down and try to deal with people that you know have lied, and they know you know? It's impossible. Without a re-commitment to honesty, America is doomed. While Fox continues to broadcast, the political process will be sabotaged, time and time again.

Karnal wrote on May 6^th, 2023 at 2:45pm:

All of your messages here have been proven to be lies, Bobby. Not mistakes, dear, lies.  Lies aren't useful in a political debate. They add no value to political discourse. All they do is create a self-indulgent semantic loop, where we have to keep sifting through lies and justifying reality. No, dear, Hillary did not run a child sex ring in a Chicago pizza shop. No, Michelle Obama is not a tranny, not that there's anything wrong with that. No, Sleepy Joe Biden is not taking a 10% cut of his son's business deals. Joe makes more than his son and publishes his income details on his website. No, Dear Leader is not interested in exposing corruption or draining swamps. He refused to disclose his own income details, and when finally forced to do so, he ended up in court for corporate fraud, tax evasion and cheating lendors, the judge declaring his business a criminal enterprise. These are facts. The Divine Plan is truth. Truth is facts; facts are truth. All is in accordance with this principle. Aquascoot likes lies because they're the only way he can justify abandoning his moral code. Aquascoot used to be a "noble righty" who aspired to family values, free trade, self reliance and  rational pragmatism. He gave this up for a white nationalist leadership cult held together by lies. He knows it's lies, and so do you. So I'm curious. Are you, like Aquascoot, happy to accept lies as the basis of your political conviction? Or do you have to lie to yourself to pretend that they're true? That's my question. I'm most curious, and I'd sincerely welcome a reply.

Linus wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2023 at 6:03pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 3rd, 2023 at 4:52pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 3rd, 2023 at 4:15pm: Disgusting crimes and, if found guilty of them, he should be punished to the full extent of the law. Those crimes are some of the worst imaginable, however, there is no place in any civilised society for the premeditated state-sanctioned killing of restrained prisoners. Of course there is. There is nothing 'uncivilised' about the death penalty. There are problems in framing laws around it, setting up fail-safe mechanism to avoid meting it out to anyone not deserving it. But to say that the death penalty is always undeserved, always uncivilised is asserting something without any proper foundation or logic. Where's your "proper foundation or logic for your claim:"There is nothing 'uncivilised' about the death penalty" or that it is not always undeserved, Frank ? No law or set of laws are going to provide a "fail-safe mechanism". The risk of wrongful execution is too high a price to allow the death penalty. A wrongful execution is irreversible. It's a moral double standard and contradiction to condone the killing of a person by the state if you accept killing is immoral. It undermines the state's authority in enforcing moral standards if it engages in the very act it condemns. If you value and respect human life, then there is no place for the death penalty. There are strong concerns about racial and socioeconomic disparities in the application of the death penalty, which raises questions about its fairness and impartiality. There are alternatives to the death penalty. In the most heinous cases life imprisonment would suffice. There is a lack of evidence to support a link between the death penalty and lower crime rates. The death penalty can also have an adverse psychological impact on those involved in its implementation: prison staff and witnesses, not to mention the impact on the family and friends of the person executed. If morality, the value of human life, fairness and impartiality, and the mitigation of human suffering are characteristics of being civilised, then the death penalty has no place in a civilised society.

... now then - let's see where my Post of the Day is......  hmmmmmm ....

https://media.tenor.com/rPZUzq3g4d8AAAAM/not-happy-jan-deborah-kennedy.gif

Well - the Norwegian mass murderer is crying in court about his 'cruel and unusual punishment' ... poor bastard ..... they couldn't turn him loose into the general population.... they'd be lining up to stab him .... and all the guards were busy elsewhere and damn - the cameras were down....

Karnal wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2024 at 4:54pm:

Now now, Greggery. Aquascoot doesn't believe court findings. He doesn't believe the big fella's own written records either. You'll see. Once DL's convicted of minor paperwork felonies, Aquascoot won't believe that either. Hang on, we'll say. They got him on tape telling Mike to pay in cash. Oh, he didn't want to be in the doghouse with the Mrs, he'll say. But he told Mike to hold off paying her until after the election, when it wouldn't matter if she talked. I think it's a smart move, Aquascoot will say. Playing by the rules of the game itself, no? But Mike got three years for that game, we'll say. It's called election fraud. Yes, the chodes are rather fussy about elections, he'll say. What to do? What to do? We'll say. How about protesting election fraud on Jan 6 and being so toosh you taser cops, bash them with flagpoles, break into the Capitol and try to lynch the VP? Mere youthful hijinx, he'll say. Boys will be boys. You've gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette. When you're given lemons, you make lemonade. A stitch in time saves nine, etc, etc, etc. So what if the leftards did that? We'll say. Them? He'll say. It's the lefties you have to watch out for. They're so triggered and violent, you see. Despicable stuff. Such criminals? We'll say. Exactly. Rapists too, I imagine. Oh? We'll say. Do you think they raped E Jean? I wouldn't be at all surprised, Aquascoot will say. I see, we'll say. Perhaps they set up the Trump Foundation and funnelled donors' funds into their own golf clubs and business interests too. Highly likely, he'll say. I wouldn't put it past them at all. You need to study the Don. He's our law and order candidate, no?

KangAnon wrote on Apr 9^th, 2025 at 1:54pm:

We need to make a clear distinction between what is actually happening and what MAGA fantasists say is happening. Frankly, the TDS-afflicted simpletons are best ignored for now, they’re a mess of contradictions, constantly rotating their justifications, none of which withstand basic scrutiny. Their tariff arguments, for example, are so inconsistent they collapse under their own weight. So let’s put that noise aside. Yes, the short-term pain is real, and inescapable. But the deeper concern is this, the damage being done may outpace the time or tools available to fix it. A simple change in leadership and a few strategic renegotiations won’t cut it if the geopolitical ground has shifted entirely. If any of the BRICS nations leapfrog the United States during this period, most likely China, with Russia as a distant second, it will fundamentally alter the global balance. And ironically, Trump appears to be doing everything he can to help them. His moves to dismantle sanctions on Russia, undermine NATO, and essentially hand over Ukraine on a platter all bolster Moscow’s strategic position, expanding their manpower, resources, and industrial footprint. You couldn’t script a better foreign policy for the Kremlin if you tried. It’s unnerving how much of what was warned about a second Trump presidency is already materialising. The MAGA crowd, predictably, remain unteachable. They’ll never acknowledge any of this, TDS has them locked into a hallucinatory state where Trump is always the victim and never the cause. But the reality is stark. For Americans over 50, and especially those over 65, the consequences are brutal. Many will be forced back into the workforce, in an economic climate that has no interest in hiring older workers, especially in regions where Trump support runs deepest, rural, low-income areas with limited job prospects. Add in the evaporation of retirement savings, and you're looking at a generational crisis. And that's ignoring the planned cuts to Medicaid and Social Security.  Their children will inherit their debts. These people aren’t retraining for tech jobs, they’re staring down the barrel of minimum wage service roles, if they’re lucky. And time is not on their side. We know the profile, white, over 50, no university degree, often in regions hollowed out by decades of economic neglect. These same areas, small towns and low-density counties, form the spine of Trump’s base. Ironically, they’re also the most exposed to the policies he champions. In the 2020 election, around 55% of voters aged 65 and older backed Trump. That block hasn’t gone anywhere, and they’re now the ones feeling the sharpest sting of his economic legacy. Their blind loyalty might carry them to the grave, and in many cases it will. We've already seen the grotesque COVID-era posts, people literally dying in hospital beds still insisting the virus was a hoax, with the next post a family member begging strangers for funeral costs and help with medical bills they left behind on GoFundMe. That level of delusion doesn’t dissolve easily. Even as their world burns down around them, many of these people will die blaming everyone but the man holding the match. And yet, even among them, Trump Regret is quietly creeping in. The question is whether it comes fast enough, or too late to matter. Assuming it isn't already too late.