http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qQmDU8QsY


Did Humans Evolve From Apes?
Well we answer this question in this video.
Let us know what do you think? Did humans Evolve from apes?



Black people look more like apes especially the Aborigines from Australia.
Some large wrestlers look very much like apes.


Did Humans Evolve From Apes?
It appears that we didn't - we just have a common ancestor.

A large professional wrestler:

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/234099/large_713mark-henry2.jpg

Aborigines:

https://www.altfg.com/film/wp-content/uploads/images/2006/12/australian-aborigines-ten-canoes.jpg

A wrestler -
George the animal Steele.

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/animalsteele.jpg

Aboriginals look like chimps. I always wonder how the early settlers could have mated with the pure bred ones.

I guess it was a long and lonely voyage.

Paul Onions wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 11:56pm:

Aboriginals look like chimps. I always wonder how the early settlers could have mated with the pure bred ones. I guess it was a long and lonely voyage.

They must have been very lonely:

https://dailystormer.name/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/abo.png



https://memesauce4.funnyjunk.com/thumbnails/comments/Them+abos+are+nothing+else+_5467a784e9c1cbd6fa5e0cb3f0bfaef9.jpg

I wish I had a nose that big. I'd pick it all day long.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 11:49pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qQmDU8QsY Did Humans Evolve From Apes? Well we answer this question in this video. Let us know what do you think? Did humans Evolve from apes? Black people look more like apes especially the Aborigines from Australia. Some large wrestlers look very much like apes. Did Humans Evolve From Apes? It appears that we didn't - we just have a common ancestor.

We are technically/biologically apes. We have a common ancestor with other surviving apes, was that ancestor an ape too? What is your point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0giXTjclyQ

Cu Chulainn wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 12:10am:

We are technically apes. We have a common ancestor with other surviving apes, was that ancestor an ape too? What is your point?

My point is that we are all apes.
We did evolve from a common ancestor and that has been proven by DNA tests.
We do have however have the ability to speak - a voice box -
that makes us entirely different from apes.
How come chimps aren't able to speak?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 12:13am:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Dec 25th, 2018 at 12:10am: We are technically apes. We have a common ancestor with other surviving apes, was that ancestor an ape too? What is your point? My point is that we are all apes. We did evolve from a common ancestor and that has been proven by DNA tests. We do have however have the ability to speak - a voice box - that makes us entirely different from apes. How come chimps aren't able to speak?

I didn't see any question about why they cant speak before now so I'm inclined to disbelieve what you are now saying. Some apes have had the capability to speak, we that moved out of Africa after them bred with some of them on the way to colonising the world. Ooops, bad word, colonising, I meant migrating, there is a difference, don't ask me what it is though.

edit: I worked out the difference between migrating and colonisation. One is bad and one is good, one is PC and one is not. One is apparently what white people do the other is what the tinted do. Some apes are bad some are good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvuM3DjvYf0

I understand what Bobby is saying.

The clip shows that the Apes are more like 'relatives' and thus our common ancestor was neither Ape or Human. So then, what was 'our' Ape & Human ancestor then - before the branch-off?

The point of Darwinism (which plagerised Wallace who 'originally' did the fieldwork) - making that less food means the smaller species will out survive the larger ones (The giant Haast Eagle of NZ is a good example).
I guess all the non-white 'little' people who are breeding in mass numbers around the world will survive.

I would like to add that what then will be the next 'branch-off'?
Where would it come from and from whom?
The more 'genetic variation' seems the successful 'trait' of a more advanced species. With Africans having more DNA variations right back to the earliest of Human gene pools, than Caucasians & Asians, I can see why 'newer' advanced species have come out of Africa. Look what happened to the shallow America's tribes that came from a small gene pool from northern Siberia to populate two new continents - they were too fragile once other races came. Isolation weakened the Aboriginal gene pool.

Personally. I think the 'new' species will be entirely new and a new evolutionary step beyond being remotely related to Humans, Apes, etc.
I think the Orca, once the connection of communication is made, will 'out-think' us and before we know it, we will be serving their imagination (dream). They've already shown (via wild orca) they understand reason, trust, honour and a few more. They also have more to their brains, that us humans can only dream of.
Basically, Orca are more intelligent than us - they are just in the lavae stage of their evolution.

We are apes, other apes are out relatives, we all descended from a common ancestor. Not that hard.

Go further back and we are all related to fish. I'm not sure I understand what Bobby is saying. You being a Blue Wrasse might have some insight.

Edit: If Bobby wants to talk about the differences in mankind, I suggest he looks at culture, not appearance.

Cu Chulainn wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 3:23am:

We are apes, other apes are out relatives, we all descended from a common ancestor. Not that hard. Go further back and we are all related to fish. I'm not sure I understand what Bobby is saying. You being a Blue Wrasse might have some insight.

He's being quite lateral here. Quite amazing to see Bobby's brain pull out such a lateral state of mind.
With Apes being Apes and us being Human. He is asking as to how 'we' are Apes as well? Two separate words: Ape & Human. We did not evolve from 'those' Apes that are still alive today. So our Common Ancestor gave birth to Apes & Humans, not Apes and from Apes came Humans. So if our 'current' Ape relatives are 'the' Apes - then what was our 'Ancestor' called? That is, what is the 'new' name that we should call them?

Look at the letter Y

If our Ancestor was down the bottom of the Letter Y stem, Apes on the Left upper stem and Humans on the upper Right stem... and being called Ape as well, it would be like a Chromosome of

Ape                            Human
                Y
              Ape

Thus then, the more 'primitive' the species, the more successful their gene-lineage of 2 to 1.

Really interesting Bobby. You don't mind if I 'steal' it?  ;)

Jasin wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 3:39am:

Look at the letter Y If our Ancestor was down the bottom of the Letter Y stem, Apes on the Left upper stem and Humans on the upper Right stem... and being called Ape as well, it would be like a Chromosome of Ape                            Human                 Y               Ape Thus then, the more 'primitive' the species, the more successful their gene-lineage of 2 to 1. Really interesting Bobby. You don't mind if I 'steal' it?  ;)

You're welcome - fellow ape.

Cu Chulainn wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 3:23am:

We are apes, other apes are out relatives, we all descended from a common ancestor. Not that hard. Go further back and we are all related to fish. I'm not sure I understand what Bobby is saying. You being a Blue Wrasse might have some insight. Edit: If Bobby wants to talk about the differences in mankind, I suggest he looks at culture, not appearance.

Culture? - The Abbos used stone tools -
the most primitive technology.
They hadn't developed writing when we first colonised here -
they were just drawing childish like pictures on rocks.

Just look at any Somali or Sudanese

There is the missing link right there.

In perhaps a few hundred generations they could even be human

Valkie wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 7:48am:

Just look at any Somali or Sudanese There is the missing link right there. In perhaps a few hundred generations they could even be human

So - do you think the Somalis or Sudanese are closer
to our common ancestors - the apes?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 11:49pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qQmDU8QsY Did Humans Evolve From Apes? Well we answer this question in this video. Let us know what do you think? Did humans Evolve from apes? Black people look more like apes especially the Aborigines from Australia. Some large wrestlers look very much like apes. Did Humans Evolve From Apes? It appears that we didn't - we just have a common ancestor.

I don't think we did.

Somewhere in central Africa I haven't got time now to find the place chimps have the ability to walk upright and do so.

Probably been doing it for ever but they haven't evolved in humans nor do they look like doing so.

Ajax wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 8:17am:

I don't think we did. Somewhere in central Africa I haven't got time now to find the place chimps have the ability to walk upright and do so. Probably been doing it for ever but they haven't evolved in humans nor do they look like doing so.

There were no chimps as we know them -
many millions of years ago.

What we see today has evolved into a modern chimp.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 11:58pm:

Paul Onions wrote on Dec 24th, 2018 at 11:56pm: Aboriginals look like chimps. I always wonder how the early settlers could have mated with the pure bred ones. I guess it was a long and lonely voyage. They must have been very lonely: https://dailystormer.name/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/abo.png https://memesauce4.funnyjunk.com/thumbnails/comments/Them+abos+are+nothing+else+_5467a784e9c1cbd6fa5e0cb3f0bfaef9.jpg

Abos are ancient apes, we are evolved

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Bobby. wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 11:49pm:

Did Humans Evolve From Apes?

No
Humans and Apes evolved from a common ancestor.

The rest of this thread is a complete cesspit which explains why this forum is dying

Gordon wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 9:01am:

Abos are ancient apes, we are evolved

We certainly are.
Although - this lady hasn't got the type of peasant looks to
work hard all day in the fields.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/images_098.jpeg

Gordon wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 9:01am:

Abos are ancient apes, we are evolved

http://i65.tinypic.com/2m4pv06.jpg

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 11:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2018 at 11:49pm: Did Humans Evolve From Apes? No Humans and Apes evolved from a common ancestor. The rest of this thread is a complete cesspit which explains why this forum is dying

And that's what he's saying! The common ancestor can NOT be an Ape also. So we did NOT descend from Apes.

Some of us are certainly ape like.

Apes actually de-evolved from Abos then walked back to Africa. Abos are the common ancestor between whites and apes.

Paul Onions wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 2:51pm:

Apes actually de-evolved from Abos then walked back to Africa. Abos are the common ancestor between whites and apes.

That would explain the missing link.

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 12:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 25th, 2018 at 9:01am: Abos are ancient apes, we are evolved http://i65.tinypic.com/2m4pv06.jpg

Notice in the pic that the most primative form is black, but the most stupid form is white.

YUCK!

Imagine this .... a BLACK penis ....

YUCK!

JollyGreenGiant wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 5:07pm:

YUCK! Imagine this .... a BLACK penis .... YUCK!

Er, well... umm,  ::) I wasn't actually imagining anything along those Lines... madam.

JollyGreenGiant wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 5:07pm:

YUCK! Imagine this .... a BLACK penis .... YUCK!

What about an albino negro with a big white cock?

The Jolly Green Neferti loves any kind of phallacy thrown her way.

Jasin wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 7:12pm:

The Jolly Green Neferti loves any kind of phallacy thrown her way.

What makes you think JGG is Neferti?

Humans evolved from toads and many remain that way today...

With Rh- blood and photosensitivity, I'm descended from stranded aliens  :o  ::)

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 7:36pm:

Humans evolved from toads and many remain that way today... With Rh- blood and photosensitivity, I'm descended from stranded aliens  :o  ::)

You're aliens were stranded here?
Well my Aliens came here because they sold this planet to someone else. They didn't own it originally, but everything needs to be sold eventually. Just like Australia.

The question you are really asking is, was the common ancestor an ape. It's a semantic question. The only sensible answer is yes. Otherwise you are claiming that different lineages evolved into apes multiple times. Whatever features we have in common that you use to define apes, the common ancestor must have had them.

freediver wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 9:57pm:

The question you are really asking is, was the common ancestor an ape. It's a semantic question. The only sensible answer is yes. Otherwise you are claiming that different lineages evolved into apes multiple times. Whatever features we have in common that you use to define apes, the common ancestor must have had them.

So you're now saying that if the Common Ancestor is indeed an Ape, then our 'modern' relatives of Gorilla, Chimp, Orangutang, gibbon, etc - can not be 'Apes' for they are now 'different' to the original ancestor of us both as we are also.

'Evolve from apes?" . We are apes.

Jasin wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 10:08pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 25th, 2018 at 9:57pm: The question you are really asking is, was the common ancestor an ape. It's a semantic question. The only sensible answer is yes. Otherwise you are claiming that different lineages evolved into apes multiple times. Whatever features we have in common that you use to define apes, the common ancestor must have had them. So you're now saying that if the Common Ancestor is indeed an Ape, then our 'modern' relatives of Gorilla, Chimp, Orangutang, gibbon, etc - can not be 'Apes' for they are now 'different' to the original ancestor of us both as we are also.

No.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 8:09am:

Valkie wrote on Dec 25th, 2018 at 7:48am: Just look at any Somali or Sudanese There is the missing link right there. In perhaps a few hundred generations they could even be human So - do you think the Somalis or Sudanese are closer to our common ancestors - the apes?

No

They are apes, or probably monkeys.

freediver wrote on Dec 25^th, 2018 at 9:57pm:

The question you are really asking is, was the common ancestor an ape. It's a semantic question. The only sensible answer is yes. Otherwise you are claiming that different lineages evolved into apes multiple times. Whatever features we have in common that you use to define apes, the common ancestor must have had them.

What about a voice box?
Apes can't talk.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2018 at 7:59am:

freediver wrote on Dec 25th, 2018 at 9:57pm: The question you are really asking is, was the common ancestor an ape. It's a semantic question. The only sensible answer is yes. Otherwise you are claiming that different lineages evolved into apes multiple times. Whatever features we have in common that you use to define apes, the common ancestor must have had them. What about a voice box? Apes can't talk.

If you want to define apes that way, then we are not apes. It's an unusual definition in biology though.

freediver wrote on Dec 26^th, 2018 at 8:26am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2018 at 7:59am: freediver wrote on Dec 25th, 2018 at 9:57pm: The question you are really asking is, was the common ancestor an ape. It's a semantic question. The only sensible answer is yes. Otherwise you are claiming that different lineages evolved into apes multiple times. Whatever features we have in common that you use to define apes, the common ancestor must have had them. What about a voice box? Apes can't talk. If you want to define apes that way, then we are not apes. It's an unusual definition in biology though.

Research:

https://www.sapiens.org/language/primate-speech/

We all know that parrots can talk. Some people may have even seen elephants, seals, or whales mimicking speech sounds. So why can’t our closest primate relatives speak like us? Our new research suggests they have the right vocal anatomy but not the brainpower to use it.

Scientists have been interested in understanding this phenomenon for centuries. Some have argued that nonhuman primates didn’t have the right-shaped body parts to make the same sounds as we do, and that human speech evolved after our speech organs changed. But comparative studies have shown that the form and function of the larynx and vocal tract is very similar across most primates species, including humans.

This suggests that the primate vocal tract is “speech ready” but that most species don’t have the neural control to make the complex sounds that comprise human speech. When reviewing the evidence in 1871, Charles Darwin wrote, “the brain has no doubt been far more important.”

Bobby I am aware that other apes can't talk. What is your point?

Interesting

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1261675/

Yeah - well, something ain't quite right. Something's missing.

a link?

freediver wrote on Dec 26^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

a link?

Look. Stuff me with Xmas food, if I'm going to search the Internet looking for some missing link?

freediver wrote on Dec 26^th, 2018 at 8:59am:

Bobby I am aware that other apes can't talk. What is your point?

Well it seems that apes do have a voice box -
I was wrong to assume they didn't.
They don't have the brain power to control it.

That's strange in that birds with their tiny pea brains can talk.

I don't think it's as simple as that. There are some physiological changes in our voice box, compared to other apes. That being said, most apes can make some variety of vocalisation. Birds can make a lot of noises, but most of it is little more complex in terms of intelligence than than pretty plumage, and serves the same purpose. Mimicry is not the same as communication.

Historians on the subject (eg Yaval Harari) think that the first (and only) biological revolution that created modern humans was the intelligence to live together in groups of more than about 50 individuals. It actually takes a lot of mental effort to keep track of your own relationship with 50 other people, and if you want to do well socially, you also have to keep track of the relationships between other individuals. If you think about it, everything about complex modern society boils down to this skill. No evolutionary changes (in humans) were needed to farm or industrialise. Other hominids such as neanderthal could probably speak as well as us, but lacked the ability to function in large tribes.

Hi FD,
I can't find Yuval Harari saying anything about the voice box.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/sep/11/sapiens-brief-history-humankind-yuval-noah-harari-review

https://jamesclear.com/book-summaries/sapiens


https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=468882620

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2018 at 1:08pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 26th, 2018 at 8:59am: Bobby I am aware that other apes can't talk. What is your point? Well it seems that apes do have a voice box - I was wrong to assume they didn't. They don't have the brain power to control it. That's strange in that birds with their tiny pea brains can talk.

Yes. Another very good point Bobby.
Why 'can' Finches talk to each other, but Apes don't - even though they have a voicebox?

I'm starting to wonder if they don't 'ever' want to find the 'Missing Link' because to do so, it might show them something that they don't want to see?!

It might show every 'race' currently on this planet - will not inherit the future - that our branch, is also...


...a DEAD END.

freediver wrote on Dec 26^th, 2018 at 2:12pm:

I don't think it's as simple as that. There are some physiological changes in our voice box, compared to other apes. That being said, most apes can make some variety of vocalisation. Birds can make a lot of noises, but most of it is little more complex in terms of intelligence than than pretty plumage, and serves the same purpose. Mimicry is not the same as communication. Historians on the subject (eg Yaval Harari) think that the first (and only) biological revolution that created modern humans was the intelligence to live together in groups of more than about 50 individuals. It actually takes a lot of mental effort to keep track of your own relationship with 50 other people, and if you want to do well socially, you also have to keep track of the relationships between other individuals. If you think about it, everything about complex modern society boils down to this skill. No evolutionary changes (in humans) were needed to farm or industrialise. Other hominids such as neanderthal could probably speak as well as us, but lacked the ability to function in large tribes.

So you put forth our 'success' as Sapiens over the other Species (Neanderthal, Denisovian, Africa X and various earlier Hominid species) based entirely on MASS of numbers.

Well then, I guess you will agree also that the World's Over-Population, let alone 'many' nations individually ( ;)) are the reason for the state of the world today.
You sound like a fan of Alien 2 over the original First Movie. All - 'mass' numbers! Mass slaughter of colonisers, aliens, soldiers, etc.
So if you can only see back as far as 'Mass numbers' being a part of the Homo Sapien success - well, you've obviously missed the 'original' reason.  ;)

This thread is an indictment of science education in Australia.

Robot wrote on Dec 26^th, 2018 at 11:29pm:

This thread is an indictment of science education in Australia.

In what way?

Quote:

So you put forth our 'success' as Sapiens over the other Species (Neanderthal, Denisovian, Africa X and various earlier Hominid species) based entirely on MASS of numbers.

Not just me, but yes. Neanderthals were bigger, stronger, and probably even smarter than us. They were also the white ones, and we were the black Africans. We outbred them.


Quote:

Well then, I guess you will agree also that the World's Over-Population, let alone 'many' nations individually ( Wink) are the reason for the state of the world today.

Yes, if you are suggesting that people are responsible for what people are doing. Seems like a trivial point though.


Quote:

You sound like a fan of Alien 2 over the original First Movie. All - 'mass' numbers! Mass slaughter of colonisers, aliens, soldiers, etc.

It's just reality. I forget the details of the movie though.


Quote:

So if you can only see back as far as 'Mass numbers' being a part of the Homo Sapien success - well, you've obviously missed the 'original' reason.

It is not just part of our success, it is what distinguished us as a species. If you look back further, we are not there.

Some evolved from jellyfish..............

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Dec 28^th, 2018 at 12:55pm:

Some evolved from jellyfish..............

When we are 1 to 2 month old fetuses we have gill structures just like fish.
Our embryos look like fish embryos.

https://www.quora.com/Do-human-babies-really-have-gills-in-the-early-stages-of-development