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Title: Labor's ultimate election losing insanity Post by juliar on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:20pm
Stupid Labor is skating on thin ice with their idiotic Energy garbage which is basically a phony that CANNOT supply the huge energy that coal has been supplying for the last 100 years or so.
There is just not enough suitable land to build the many many many thousands of wind+solar farms and is therefore a dead end!!! Advance Australia Good Guys are panicking slimy GetUp! who don't seem to understand that Coal (or nuclear or hydro) is the main, primary base load power. Secondary Wind and solar power CANNOT provide this. If we only had wind and solar, homes and businesses would only have power 30% of the time and never enough power to run industries. Coal is NOT the back up Secondary power. Industry needs a constant supply and is therefore an ideal load for Primary coal or nuclear or hydro generators. And the dangerous potential fire bomb lithium batteries Labor wants to expose homes to is basically too small to be of any use and it rockets the cost of home insurance because of the huge fire risk. Labor charges its energy policy with household battery installations Samantha Maiden 12:02am, Nov 22, 2018 Updated: 2h ago Silly Little Shorty doing his bull frog thing to make himself look bigger. Bill Shorten will announce a plan to slash power bills by up to 60 per cent by establishing a national target of one million household battery installations by 2025. The Labor leader will unveil his energy plan on Thursday, which keeps the Turnbull government’s National Energy Guarantee policy but with a higher emissions reduction target. The Household Battery Program will offer a $2000 rebate for 100,000 households on incomes of less than $180,000 per year to purchase and install battery systems, as well as low-cost loans for households. “Real savings of hundreds, potentially even thousands, of dollars a year, every year,” Mr Shorten said. In a speech to be delivered in Sydney, Mr Shorten will also offer “bipartisanship” on the existing NEG legislation that has split the Liberal Party. The strategy is two pronged: Embarrass the Morrison government over its failure to achieve reform and highlight the party’s internal division by offering to support its own policy and buy insurance to get the Liberals to vote for the NEG and an energy policy after the election if Labor needs their votes in the Senate. “Frankly, the single most important thing about energy and climate policy right now is to have one,” Mr Shorten said. “The current treasurer designed the NEG framework. The current prime minister was one of its most forceful advocates. “The Parliament could debate and vote on this before Christmas, if the Liberals were so inclined. But let’s be clear: We will work with the Coalition, but we will not wait for them. “If I’m elected prime minister, I will not sit around and wait for the Liberals and Nationals to stop arguing about whether climate change is real.” According to the independent Parliamentary Budget Office the battery plan will cost $215 million over the forward estimates – the four years from 2020. The ALP predicts this will triple the number of battery systems in Australian households and help manufacturers bring down costs. Labor cites Smart Energy Council estimates that new household solar and batteries would allow most homes to save more than 60 per cent off their power bills. Mr Shorten will also announce a $100 million in a Neighbourhood Renewables Program to ensure renters and social housing residents don’t miss out from the savings. “We will establish community power hubs to support the development of renewables projects in local communities, such as solar gardens on apartment rooftops, community wind farms, energy-efficiency upgrades for social housing, and grants for community groups to pilot new projects,’’ he said. Labor retains its policy of aiming to deliver 50 per cent of power from renewables by 2030, keep power prices lower, and create thousands of jobs in the renewables industry. That target is set to form the basis of the Morrison government’s fightback, with conservatives ready to rumble over concerns the 50 per cent renewables target is too high. https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/11/22/labor-energy-policy-household-batteries/ |
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Title: Re: Labor's ultimate election losing insanity Post by juliar on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:23pm
The Lefties are frozen with fright!!!
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Title: Re: Labor's ultimate election losing insanity Post by Redmond Neck on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:25pm
Crap!
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Title: Re: Labor's ultimate election losing insanity Post by philperth2010 on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:32pm Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:25pm:
Indeed....If you read the crap the dickhead posted, no where does it mention gas as a base load power source....Nuclear FFS??? ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Labor's ultimate election losing insanity Post by TheFunPolice on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:36pm philperth2010 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:32pm:
America doesn't want Australia to go Nuclear: this is a well known fact! |
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Title: Re: Labor's ultimate election losing insanity Post by juliar on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:54pm
Is Futility in search of Failure really in a Nursing Home ?
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Title: Re: Labor's ultimate election losing insanity Post by TheFunPolice on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 1:02pm juliar wrote on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:54pm:
*************** Juliar hates me lol! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: Labor's ultimate election losing insanity Post by juliar on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 1:23pm
Sounds like Futility in search of Failure IS in a Nursing Home overlooking the Swan.
One thing the Lefties like to do is rush in with their ears back to display their gross ignorance. The unreliable very expensive renewable rubbish is there for ONE reason ONLY - to rip off the SUBSIDY. Because the renewable rubbish only works occasionally it MUST have a BACKUP power supply and hence the amount of power equipment is DOUBLED and costs at least TWICE as MUCH. Large network batteries are just a tiny joke and are of use ONLY for a very small solar or wind farm and then they will conk out after about a day so long as nobody turns a light on. Gas turbines are used to back up renewable rubbish but as gas is already in short supply they are not such a wonderful idea. The real issue is if there is a big industrial load like Tomago Aluminium Smelter which requires large amounts of power 24/7 then wind and solar is as useless as shoes on a snake and gas is in short supply and expensive whereas coal is in unlimited supply and CHEAP and does not require any backup. Wind and solar is in a dead end as there is NOT ENOUGH suitable land to build the thousands and thousands of solar and wind farms required to generate the SAME AMOUNT OF POWER being effortlessly generated by coal. So make up your "minds" Lefties, do you want industry in Australia or do you want to follow the Greenies and CLOSE DOWN ALL INDUSTRY IN AUSTRALIA ? No doubt the new Advance Australia Good Guys with ScoMo's encouragement will have a field day with this latest Labor lunacy. Labor is following this self destructive Greeny lunacy because they reckon they will have to rely on the Greenies in the Senate. Lefties your Socialist HEROES are on a downward trajectory cheered on by ScoMo and the Good Guys. If Labor gets in get used to the blackness of the thousands of Black African Terrorists illegally invading Australia and the blackness of the BLACKOUTS and the sky high power prices and the carbon tax. What sort of disturbed person would vote for LABOR ? |
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Title: Re: Labor's ultimate election losing insanity Post by juliar on Nov 23rd, 2018 at 11:49am
Stupid Greeny led by the snout Shorty's ridiculous energy disaster is already collapsing around his flapping ears. What a drongo!!!
ScoMo the Shorty killer is already wiping the floor with him. Labor's loony Energy "policy" is insanity on steroids. Loony Labor's blackout energy policy Morrison dashes business hopes on energy Updated 1 hour ago Labor's pledge to put the coalition's dumped energy policy on the table for bipartisan support has pleased business groups craving investment certainty. Scott Morrison has dashed the hopes of Australian businesses crying out for bipartisan support on energy policy. Business leaders were briefly optimistic about ending the decade-long climate wars in Australia when Labor announced would revive the coalition's dumped National Energy Guarantee. The Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry and the Business Council of Australia are both eager for a solution to the nation's energy woes. "We have consistently called on all sides of the political divide to support the NEG to end the policy paralysis that has stalled much needed investment," BCA chief Jennifer Westacott said. However, the prime minister is refusing to back Labor's plan. When asked why he would not support the NEG, given he had consistently argued for months it would lower power prices, Mr Morrison deflected to the opposition's plans for household batteries. He likened the idea to Kevin Rudd's disastrous insulation scheme. "What happened last time we let the Labor Party come and put something in your house," Mr Morrison told Nine Network. "I mean, roofs burnt down for goodness sake. They've learnt nothing, absolutely nothing." The prime minister said the NEG would lower power prices with a carbon emission reduction target of 26 per cent - not the 45 per cent target proposed by Labor. "A 45 per cent target is reckless, it will shut down industries all around the country," Mr Morrison said. Under Labor's plan, subsidies of up to $2000 would be given to 100,000 households to install batteries to link their solar panels, which cost about $10,000 each. Mr Morrison pointed out high-end Tesla batteries cost more than $20,000. "I mean, what families in Australia on the incomes they're talking about have a lazy $20,000 hanging around to go and put these things in?" Labor would also invest $15 billion in energy transmission and generation if it wins the next federal election. Meanwhile, the coalition has angered the business community with its plans to force energy retailers to sell off assets and restructure their companies if it is deemed in the public interest. The Business Council of Australia has warned the "ad hoc and extreme" divestiture powers would exacerbate sovereign risk, interfere with market outcomes and discourage investment. Finance Minister Mathias Cormann has dismissed their warnings. "Obviously there's always a level of vested interest in the context of these sorts of debates," he told Sky News. "This is not something we would want to pursue - it is a matter of last resort - but when it is all said and done, we are on the side of consumers and business when it comes to electricity prices." https://www.sbs.com.au/news/morrison-dashes-business-hopes-on-energy |
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Title: Re: Labor's ultimate election losing insanity Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 25th, 2018 at 9:49am juliar wrote on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:54pm:
Really socko, really ! :D LOL |
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