China's expansion into the Asian Pacific region needs to be viewed with all the seriousness that partners in the ASEAN conference obviously do

The agreement to build a Naval Base on Manus Island which will be  mounted by a partnership of Asian nations is drawing a line in the sand to the Chinese

The Chinese already have a road building and construction program underway particularly in South Pacific nations which are poor. These are in the form of 'loans' which it is patently clear they have no hope of repaying. Often these projects are nonsensicle and not needed

However China's strategy is to have these Countries 'indebted' to them thereby creating huge leverage

It is welcoming that the U.S. in particular recognises the immense danger that China poses as it flexes its muscle in the Pacific with its 'building' of islands then militarising them

We should be distancing ourselves from China it has already been exposed that China has directed its huge companies such as Huwaii to spy on foreign Governments and customers

China is the Big Brother that Orwell predicted and we must resist it with all our might

What bothers you, they are expanding by economic means and not military and they have a right to do so and they have a right to protect their investments.

This is consistent with globalism.

Other than blatant racism what is wrong with their actions, the West has been expanding and driving up third world debt for generations and bombing the crap out of them, installing puppet governments etc.

China are taking over with pure economic means, that's all consistent with our own laws and values.


We have been identity politicking while they been engineering and now they are surpassing us, sounds perfectly reasonable.


Actions have consequences, they invested in education, manufacturing, water, energy, food, infrastructure, STEM...we invested in feminism and identity politics, get what deserve.

My mate who had nothing all his life as a wage slave married a Chinese women and now works in China as an consultant to help foreign  businesses work with the Chinese all over the globe. The guy is now officially a brand new millionaire.

Have you had a look at China's policies in regard to human freedom?

They don't exist

China's record  of human rights is deplorable and they have butchered countless thousands of dissidents

We don't need their crap in our part of the world

Incidentally Globalisation is just another word for what Hitler did with Germany's expansionism prior to and in the second world war

red baron wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:04am:

Have you had a look at China's policies in regard ton human freedom? They don't exist China's record  of human rights ids deplorable and they have butchered countless thousands of dissidents We don't need their crap in our part of the world Incidentally Globalisation is just another word for what Hitler did with Germany's expansionism prior to and in the second world war

Almost exclusively their own, we on the other hand do the same to others.

Many here cheered when the ABC were forced out of Pacific broadcasting by Liberal government cuts.

Every single broadcast frequency the ABC gave up was picked up by the Chinese government.

Where 5 years ago the major broadcast voice across much of the Pacific was Australian today it is exclusively Chinese.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:08am:

Many here cheered when the ABC were forced out of Pacific broadcasting by Liberal government cuts. Every single broadcast frequency the ABC gave up was picked up by the Chinese government. Where 5 years ago the major broadcast voice across much of the Pacific was Australian today it is exclusively Chinese.

It might get to a point of choosing take over by economic Chinese expansion or Islamic religious domination.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:13am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:08am: Many here cheered when the ABC were forced out of Pacific broadcasting by Liberal government cuts. Every single broadcast frequency the ABC gave up was picked up by the Chinese government. Where 5 years ago the major broadcast voice across much of the Pacific was Australian today it is exclusively Chinese. It might get to a point of choosing take over by economic Chinese expansion or Islamic religious domination.

You seem happy to oppose one ? Why not the other as well ?

It was economically socially ethically and in terms of Australia's security stupid for the Australian government to have achieved this result through their combined greed dogma driven nastiness and stinginess.

Yes the Liberals dishonest dogma driven desire to stitch up the ABC resulted in seriously damaging Australia's and the western worlds position in the pacific and very significantly advantaging a large powerful competitor in the region. Nothing short of incompetent.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:29am:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:13am: Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:08am: Many here cheered when the ABC were forced out of Pacific broadcasting by Liberal government cuts. Every single broadcast frequency the ABC gave up was picked up by the Chinese government. Where 5 years ago the major broadcast voice across much of the Pacific was Australian today it is exclusively Chinese. It might get to a point of choosing take over by economic Chinese expansion or Islamic religious domination. You seem happy to oppose one ? Why not the other as well ? It was economically socially ethically and in terms of Australia's security stupid for the Australian government to have achieved this result through their combined greed dogma driven nastiness and stinginess. Yes the Liberals dishonest dogma driven desire to stitch up the ABC resulted in seriously damaging Australia's and the western worlds position in the pacific and very significantly advantaging a large powerful competitor in the region. Nothing short of incompetent.

Because apart from the horrors of early communist mass murder the Chinese have successfully integrated around the globe over history as industrious, hard working,  peaceful people. Muslims OTOH bring terror, destruction and war.

I'll say it again - the Chinese people overall are fine - their ruling oligarchy are among the most rapacious exploitationist parasites and thieves in the world - hence my use of the terms New Emperor and New Mandarins.

The New Empirists use every facet of Chinese society - including military control via fear in the populace to keep them in line, economic factors and everything else - to cement their own place at the top in the most extreme and opulent luxury. **

Always been the same in Asia - always will be.

** as I've said many times - our Great Leaders view this with envy.... hence the constant attacks on human and civil rights here in many, many ways, and the constant undermining of Australian values in every way.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 7:48am:

What bothers you, they are expanding by economic means and not military and they have a right to do so and they have a right to protect their investments. This is consistent with globalism. Other than blatant racism what is wrong with their actions, the West has been expanding and driving up third world debt for generations and bombing the crap out of them, installing puppet governments etc. China are taking over with pure economic means, that's all consistent with our own laws and values. We have been identity politicking while they been engineering and now they are surpassing us, sounds perfectly reasonable. Actions have consequences, they invested in education, manufacturing, water, energy, food, infrastructure, STEM...we invested in feminism and identity politics, get what deserve. My mate who had nothing all his life as a wage slave married a Chinese women and now works in China as an consultant to help foreign  businesses work with the Chinese all over the globe. The guy is now officially a brand new millionaire.

You point clearly to the growing division between future military opponents.... not much else.  Citing a similar history for the west only shows more clearly the lines being drawn.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:13am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:08am: Many here cheered when the ABC were forced out of Pacific broadcasting by Liberal government cuts. Every single broadcast frequency the ABC gave up was picked up by the Chinese government. Where 5 years ago the major broadcast voice across much of the Pacific was Australian today it is exclusively Chinese. It might get to a point of choosing take over by economic Chinese expansion or Islamic religious domination.

... unless we lock the gates now....... thank you for your support....

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:36am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:29am: Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:13am: Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:08am: Many here cheered when the ABC were forced out of Pacific broadcasting by Liberal government cuts. Every single broadcast frequency the ABC gave up was picked up by the Chinese government. Where 5 years ago the major broadcast voice across much of the Pacific was Australian today it is exclusively Chinese. It might get to a point of choosing take over by economic Chinese expansion or Islamic religious domination. You seem happy to oppose one ? Why not the other as well ? It was economically socially ethically and in terms of Australia's security stupid for the Australian government to have achieved this result through their combined greed dogma driven nastiness and stinginess. Yes the Liberals dishonest dogma driven desire to stitch up the ABC resulted in seriously damaging Australia's and the western worlds position in the pacific and very significantly advantaging a large powerful competitor in the region. Nothing short of incompetent. Because apart from the horrors of early communist mass murder the Chinese have successfully integrated around the globe over history as industrious, hard working,  peaceful people. Muslims OTOH bring terror, destruction and war.

You fail to note the significant aggressive Chinese forces posture and aggression, standard of human rights etc.

So because you think they are really nice we should not secure ourselves against them and economically compete in a competent manner ?

You believe that it is acceptable for our government to damage Australia and advantage a powerful foreign nation out of spite and incompetence?

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:36am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:29am: Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:13am: Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:08am: Many here cheered when the ABC were forced out of Pacific broadcasting by Liberal government cuts. Every single broadcast frequency the ABC gave up was picked up by the Chinese government. Where 5 years ago the major broadcast voice across much of the Pacific was Australian today it is exclusively Chinese. It might get to a point of choosing take over by economic Chinese expansion or Islamic religious domination. You seem happy to oppose one ? Why not the other as well ? It was economically socially ethically and in terms of Australia's security stupid for the Australian government to have achieved this result through their combined greed dogma driven nastiness and stinginess. Yes the Liberals dishonest dogma driven desire to stitch up the ABC resulted in seriously damaging Australia's and the western worlds position in the pacific and very significantly advantaging a large powerful competitor in the region. Nothing short of incompetent. Because apart from the horrors of early communist mass murder the Chinese have successfully integrated around the globe over history as industrious, hard working,  peaceful people. Muslims OTOH bring terror, destruction and war.

Chinese people - Chinese government and its policies and focuses.... big difference.  Unfortunately while ever that government exists and prospers, we are unable to welcome Chinese who in many instances are unwitting servitors of this expansionist government.

Not a nice choice - but there it is. 

Red Baron nailed it with his comparison with Hitlerian European expansionism.... it isn't just the Chinese - it is the entire 'globalist' clique, but the Chinese government certainly knows how to exploit any gap.

I am trying to think of a list of cultures who haven't killed for local  territory eg primitives or national or global expansion.


There is a tribe that has no vocabulary for war, they are unique to anthropology. I am sure there are others Eskimos?

But conquest and expansion is a human condition.

red baron wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:04am:

Have you had a look at China's policies in regard ton human freedom? They don't exist China's record  of human rights ids deplorable and they have butchered countless thousands of dissidents We don't need their crap in our part of the world Incidentally Globalisation is just another word for what Hitler did with Germany's expansionism prior to and in the second world war

Having been in China recently, that was so apparent. They are all living under heavy rulership. Yes, the Uni students in the 1980's did try to change that, against dictatorship, in Tiananmen Square, with slogans such as "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" and "Give me democracy or give me death" etc.
Then the armoured tanks came in, and slaughtered 7000 of them.

So this Mao Zedong (China Communist Revolutionary), who died in 1976, whose huge picture is up on display facing towards Tiananmen Square, for what purpose? To remind people of his dicatorship where under his ruling of the "Great Leap Forward" he massacred 45 million of his own people in 4 year span! Making him the No. 1 worst mass murderer in history.
So how do people live in China? I will tell you, with their tails tucked between their legs, in fear, oppresssed.
We were told, to not say anything about the massacre whilst we were in Tiananmen Square, because there are "spys" everywhere.

Yes, the big thing was "dissidents do disappear in China" !

I wonder Term Dog, your friend that helps the Chinese Govt. and become well paid for it, is a type of spy for them, using his anglo saxoness, since he had nothing, as you said, and now he is very wealthy, of course, they now control him that way. Amazing how he has become so 'wealthy' with a use, whilst many Chinese people are so oppressed, why use him and not one of their own?

My hubby and I were just talking about China, the good and the bad, yesterday, on our way to Tullamarine Airport, and seeing the roads are finally finished almost, then coming onto a part that was getting prepped for a new sealing, and I said, I don't see it happening soon, there are no machines anywhere.
We then say, in China, it would be done much quicker, and how great their roads and workmanship was over there. Brilliant in fact. Enviably so.
Then we thought of how people live, not even allowed to buy their own house, living in high rise apartments leased from the government for a 70 year life span.
So we both said, there is good, and bad about China.
Roads and contruction, amazing....people treatment, not so.
There is no unemployment payment, everyone has to work, do something to get paid. The elderly, have to be looked after by their young, no pension either there. I saw elderly people as street cleaners. The ones that were still fit and able. There were no 'wheelchair access' anywhere!
Obviously, the government have no patience for the disabled.

Don't say I didn't warn you, if we are going to be globalized by the China way of life? Be prepared to let go of the liberties we now so freely have.

The Chinese have built 'militarised islands' in the Pacific and called it Chinese waters

International ships including our own Naval vessels sail these zones which are designated as international waters by international law

The world needs to send the Chinese a message that we are not going to sit back and let them annex the Pacific Ocean which is their intent

Thank God countries across the Pacific have woken up to China and we are now on red alert as to their  intentions

You leftists sound like nationalists, remember your mantra; nationalists are bad communists are good.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 10:17am:

You leftists sound like nationalists, remember your mantra; nationalists are bad communists are good.

Nobody is saying that either nationalist or communists are good (or bad).

My recommended  position is to back Australia in terms of economic competitiveness and boarder security and to be opposed to Australian governments or political party's undermining this because of un-reasoned dogma as in this case.

Accidentally or stupidly helping to increase China's dominance in our region (on our doorstep) is bad for our local security and economic interests.

This from the guys who spent 2 decades panicking about the threat from a few dozen refugees on leaky boats but happy to give a genuine threat a huge strategic advantage adjacent to our border.

red baron wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 10:14am:

The Chinese have built 'militarised islands' in the Pacific and called it Chinese waters International ships including our own Naval vessels sail these zones which are designated as international waters by international law The world needs to send the Chinese a message that we are not going to sit back and let them annex the Pacific Ocean which is their intent Thank God countries across the Pacific have woken up to China and we are now on red alert as to their  intentions

this has already been done rb.....but china sticks its finger  up at the world... thus far no western planes have been shot out of the sky.....but China believes it has the right to do just that,...

not another Kim Jong.....ugh!..

it is getting very serious.....as we know by how the CHinese bought and paid for Sen Dastyari.... we have to be on full alert...at all times...

I find the Chinese people I have met or deal with to be most pleasant and nothing like the govt back home... so I am happy with that.....but those rich and Powerful I would steer well clear of..

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 10:17am:

You leftists sound like nationalists, remember your mantra; nationalists are bad communists are good.

so you dont mind what CHina is building in the China sea??? 

you dont see it as a threat to our sovereignty

or freedom to fly over the China Sea.?......

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:36am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:29am: Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:13am: Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:08am: Many here cheered when the ABC were forced out of Pacific broadcasting by Liberal government cuts. Every single broadcast frequency the ABC gave up was picked up by the Chinese government. Where 5 years ago the major broadcast voice across much of the Pacific was Australian today it is exclusively Chinese. It might get to a point of choosing take over by economic Chinese expansion or Islamic religious domination. You seem happy to oppose one ? Why not the other as well ? It was economically socially ethically and in terms of Australia's security stupid for the Australian government to have achieved this result through their combined greed dogma driven nastiness and stinginess. Yes the Liberals dishonest dogma driven desire to stitch up the ABC resulted in seriously damaging Australia's and the western worlds position in the pacific and very significantly advantaging a large powerful competitor in the region. Nothing short of incompetent. Because apart from the horrors of early communist mass murder the Chinese have successfully integrated around the globe over history as industrious, hard working,  peaceful people. Muslims OTOH bring terror, destruction and war.

It's an important statement, that needs to be looked at more deeply.
The biggest mass murderer in the history of the world was their own Chairman, and he has been dead since the 1970s, yet, his huge photo is still up, facing the contraversial Tiananamen Square to show a presence, of what the current Government believes in.
Otherwise why have it up there? I felt it was too damned obvious. I was there, and it didn't have a nice feeling that place. So many deaths for liberty.
As an example, the Germans don't have Hitler's huge portrait anywhere? I think the Germans are industrious, hard working and peaceful people also, yet, not oppressed like the Chinese people are.

red baron wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:04am:

Have you had a look at China's policies in regard to human freedom? They don't exist China's record  of human rights is deplorable and they have butchered countless thousands of dissidents We don't need their crap in our part of the world Incidentally Globalisation is just another word for what Hitler did with Germany's expansionism prior to and in the second world war

Chinese President Xi Jinping has been voted Premier for life -
absolute power forever.
Did anyone dare to vote against it?
It sounds too much like Hitler coming to power.
We have to be watchful.

Sophia wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 9:13am:

red baron wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:04am: Have you had a look at China's policies in regard ton human freedom? They don't exist China's record  of human rights ids deplorable and they have butchered countless thousands of dissidents We don't need their crap in our part of the world Incidentally Globalisation is just another word for what Hitler did with Germany's expansionism prior to and in the second world war Having been in China recently, that was so apparent. They are all living under heavy rulership. Yes, the Uni students in the 1980's did try to change that, against dictatorship, in Tiananmen Square, with slogans such as "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" and "Give me democracy or give me death" etc. Then the armoured tanks came in, and slaughtered 7000 of them. So this Mao Zedong (China Communist Revolutionary), who died in 1976, whose huge picture is up on display facing towards Tiananmen Square, for what purpose? To remind people of his dicatorship where under his ruling of the "Great Leap Forward" he massacred 45 million of his own people in 4 year span! Making him the No. 1 worst mass murderer in history. So how do people live in China? I will tell you, with their tails tucked between their legs, in fear, oppresssed. We were told, to not say anything about the massacre whilst we were in Tiananmen Square, because there are "spys" everywhere. Yes, the big thing was "dissidents do disappear in China" ! I wonder Term Dog, your friend that helps the Chinese Govt. and become well paid for it, is a type of spy for them, using his anglo saxoness, since he had nothing, as you said, and now he is very wealthy, of course, they now control him that way. Amazing how he has become so 'wealthy' with a use, whilst many Chinese people are so oppressed, why use him and not one of their own? My hubby and I were just talking about China, the good and the bad, yesterday, on our way to Tullamarine Airport, and seeing the roads are finally finished almost, then coming onto a part that was getting prepped for a new sealing, and I said, I don't see it happening soon, there are no machines anywhere. We then say, in China, it would be done much quicker, and how great their roads and workmanship was over there. Brilliant in fact. Enviably so. Then we thought of how people live, not even allowed to buy their own house, living in high rise apartments leased from the government for a 70 year life span. So we both said, there is good, and bad about China. Roads and contruction, amazing....people treatment, not so. There is no unemployment payment, everyone has to work, do something to get paid. The elderly, have to be looked after by their young, no pension either there. I saw elderly people as street cleaners. The ones that were still fit and able. There were no 'wheelchair access' anywhere! Obviously, the government have no patience for the disabled. Don't say I didn't warn you, if we are going to be globalized by the China way of life? Be prepared to let go of the liberties we now so freely have.

Very well put.


It is amazing as to how many people have no idea about the real china. All they see is buisiness and cheap stuff.
China needs to be stopped before we all end up living like their general population. Their leaders are worse than all of the dictators on earth put together....yet not a word is said by our ever so corrupted media and gov. Why is that? Why do our gov leaders bow to a regime that has killed more people than any other? Disgusting.

Globalists love china....that's what they want the world to become. We need to stop it happening.

My point is you can't vote for globalism and then whine when someone looks like achieving it.

Do you think globalism will result in perfect equality of all and absolute freedom of individual rights?

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 12:38pm:

My point is you can't vote for globalism and then whine when someone looks like achieving it. Do you think globalism will result in perfect equality of all and absolute freedom of individual rights?

Equality is an unachievable concept in all aspects of life.

Inequality begins at birth and equality diverges through the rest of life.

The only way equality can exist is if all people are cloned from one person, are born defect-free with the same IQ, and are raised by a social system that actively prevents divergence of equality. Then, individual good fortune needs to be eliminated as a source of divergence of equality.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 12:38pm:

My point is you can't vote for globalism and then whine when someone looks like achieving it. Do you think globalism will result in perfect equality of all and absolute freedom of individual rights?

I don't recall anyone ever voting for globalism. Most have been conned into believing that it isn't what they voted for.

China taking over Australia will solve many great wrongs

Politicians will all be executed.......win

Muzzos will be sent to re-education......win

Multinationals will be controlled .......win

Communists will run the country.....lose

See three wins to a lose, not too bad.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 2:50pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 12:38pm: My point is you can't vote for globalism and then whine when someone looks like achieving it. Do you think globalism will result in perfect equality of all and absolute freedom of individual rights? I don't recall anyone ever voting for globalism. Most have been conned into believing that it isn't what they voted for.

Can you wanna write that last sentence  again, faking awkward as fak.

Valkie wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 3:19pm:

China taking over Australia will solve many great wrongs Politicians will all be executed.......win Muzzos will be sent to re-education......win Multinationals will be controlled .......win Communists will run the country.....lose See three wins to a lose, not too bad.

If China are still commy they are really bad at it.

I think they need a new definition, in many ways they are the most capitalist capitalist's in human history but with total authoritarian centrally planned everything.


I don't know where they are defined in the political spectrum but at least today they ain't communist.

They would execute  Marx and most of western leftists.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 7:48am:

What bothers you, they are expanding by economic means and not military and they have a right to do so and they have a right to protect their investments. This is consistent with globalism. Other than blatant racism what is wrong with their actions, the West has been expanding and driving up third world debt for generations and bombing the crap out of them, installing puppet governments etc. China are taking over with pure economic means, that's all consistent with our own laws and values. We have been identity politicking while they been engineering and now they are surpassing us, sounds perfectly reasonable. Actions have consequences, they invested in education, manufacturing, water, energy, food, infrastructure, STEM...we invested in feminism and identity politics, get what deserve. My mate who had nothing all his life as a wage slave married a Chinese women and now works in China as an consultant to help foreign  businesses work with the Chinese all over the globe. The guy is now officially a brand new millionaire.

Identity policking? And here I was, thinking we've been busy getting our hands dirty over in the Middle East.

It is, after all, what put the US into debt with - guess who -

China.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 2:50pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 12:38pm: My point is you can't vote for globalism and then whine when someone looks like achieving it. Do you think globalism will result in perfect equality of all and absolute freedom of individual rights? I don't recall anyone ever voting for globalism. Most have been conned into believing that it isn't what they voted for.

And I don't recall governments having anything to do with globalism apart from liberalizing the banking sector.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:57am:

I am trying to think of a list of cultures who haven't killed for local  territory eg primitives or national or global expansion. There is a tribe that has no vocabulary for war, they are unique to anthropology. I am sure there are others Eskimos? But conquest and expansion is a human condition.

TD... the west hasnt done that in donkeys years... give us a break  the only one still doing it is CHINA....Hong Kong Taiwan..and Tibet if they have half a chance.....


the largest sector of China is POOR.. they work very hard for little in comparison to us....we just dont get to see it.....my daughter has not long come back....but it was a very organised tour...they didnt see the overcrowding and children working...that is domination by a govt that has a lot to hide......

if your friend in now rich   he needs to take care of it  be cause C hina wont let him leave with it...

remember James Packer.....

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 10:17am:

You leftists sound like nationalists, remember your mantra; nationalists are bad communists are good.

What about we middle roaders who believe that communism is bad and ultra-nationalism is bad and ultra-capitalism (robber baronism) is bad, but that socialist nationalism, a mix of capitalism and socialism, is the only real way forward?

I hesitate to use the term national socialism, since that was ruined by henchmen of Hitler with their excesses for ridiculous ideological purposes.... real National Socialism would not do those things.... an uncontrolled oligarchy such as Hitlerism permitted and encouraged does... so read  ANY uncontrolled oligarchy....

Keep your sights down, your weapons clean, and your target in sight....

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 3:25pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 3:19pm: China taking over Australia will solve many great wrongs Politicians will all be executed.......win Muzzos will be sent to re-education......win Multinationals will be controlled .......win Communists will run the country.....lose See three wins to a lose, not too bad. If China are still commy they are really bad at it. I think they need a new definition, in many ways they are the most capitalist capitalist's in human history but with total authoritarian centrally planned everything. I don't know where they are defined in the political spectrum but at least today they ain't communist. They would execute  Marx and most of western leftists.

Only Stalinist for the 'lower classes' - you get the difference between Communism and Stalinism?  Stalinism is absolute control of those who are the majority at the bottom..... Communism is supposed to be sharing abilities and outcomes.... Russia and china were never Communist..... only Stalinist.

You sound young.... stick around..... you'll leanr one hell of a lot from older heads here.

Lady Lols did a fine job with her comments... add up all the comments to date and you'll get a pretty good picture of current China and the very real peril, the clear and present danger, it represents in the Asian Pacific Basin and Region..... and especially to its near neighbours, on whom it encroaches daily, offering a choice between acceptance or confrontation which might lead to war.....

Do you know of any single Asian nation that, at this time, wants to go to war with China?  Yet China continually pushes the boundaries with Vietnam, The Philippines, and every other neighbouring nation...  apart from North Korea... which puts pressure on South Korea...

Oddly, in her usual unthought out way, Pauline Hanson has it right this time - Chinese people are not the problem for this nation - it is the Chinese government.... Hanson simply cannot get her mind around the words needed to define her position.... and thus will not e receive my vote...

Like dealing with 'feminism' which has little to nothing to do with women and rights,try to separate the Chinese 'government' from the ordinary people....

That way I can guarantee you to fail your uni course dealing with these (and other) issues..... an epidemic of academics...

Anyone who thinks Communism works should read Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr  Sollzhenitsyn

red baron wrote on Nov 20^th, 2018 at 5:20pm:

Anyone who thinks Communism works should read Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr  Sollzhenitsyn

What is Red Baron doing about it?

Blithering doesn't stop the "great threat".

The genie is out of the bottle. China is unstoppable.

red baron wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 7:26am:

China's expansion into the Asian Pacific region needs to be viewed with all the seriousness that partners in the ASEAN conference obviously do The agreement to build a Naval Base on Manus Island which will be  mounted by a partnership of Asian nations is drawing a line in the sand to the Chinese The Chinese already have a road building and construction program underway particularly in South Pacific nations which are poor. These are in the form of 'loans' which it is patently clear they have no hope of repaying. Often these projects are nonsensicle and not needed However China's strategy is to have these Countries 'indebted' to them thereby creating huge leverage It is welcoming that the U.S. in particular recognises the immense danger that China poses as it flexes its muscle in the Pacific with its 'building' of islands then militarising them We should be distancing ourselves from China it has already been exposed that China has directed its huge companies such as Huwaii to spy on foreign Governments and customers China is the Big Brother that Orwell predicted and we must resist it with all our might

Or you could do a Trump and meet them on a non-threatening 'equal' ground (unlike previous Presidents who 'belittle' China as a political 'naughty kid') which results in much respect and honour.
This 'annoyed' Putin and Russia: how dare China put on such a lavish welcome for Trump of the USA ! >:(

...but this is how Trump plays his cards: He makes Russia 'over-confident' directly, but less confident in-directly through China.

In the end, Trump's work will be seen 'after' he is gone from Presidency.
He will be remembered as the President who turned CHINA against RUSSIA. He made China Darth Vader pick up the evil Russian Emperor and throw him into the Abyss.

Trump knows that Russia is the reason why everything in Asia is up the clacker. Why China 'fears' USA, which justifies its military expansionism. Which is why Trump reinforces that USA has no intention of 'invading' China - even the N.Korea. That USA is being 'defensive' only.
So if the USA won't 'invade' - then who will China fight then?  ;)

In the end, China will invade Russia.

Yeah - sure, the Media will have you think otherwise.
Let alone, get the news 3 months after the word is out.
The Media hasn't really got a clue and is probably one of the perpetrators as to why the world is stuffed up currently.


So Trump has put into place the orthodox approach of negating Russia once and for all - not directly, but indirectly via China.

Eventually, after Trump is gone. You will get a blonde Aryan-Angel President. The Media will hate him too. But he will put an end to the MING THE MERCILESS military agenda of China.

The Ranga starts it.
The Blonde finishes it.

"Bye bye Russia"
(Hello Republic of Australia) :-X

What abject insanity from JaSin.

China to attack Russia to the benefit of USA? Nonsense.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 20^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

What abject insanity from JaSin. China to attack Russia to the benefit of USA? Nonsense.

Nostrodamus predicted the Sino (China) & Russo (Russia) WAR too.
I think I'll go along with someone who did a detailed study of history to make his predictions, rather than your 'lack of effort' to prove otherwise.

...its always the thing you least expect, that will happen.
Just like the USSR/USA 'nuke war' - never happened, but 'everyone' thought it will.

Maybe LTYC, if you studied 'history' and realise that when a pendulum swings one way, it eventually swings back the other way.

CHINA V RUSSIA (because China will NOT attack the USA)  ;)