Post by Brian Ross on Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:38pm
Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
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Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground, Soren. It is where you belong.
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Member Run Boards >> Extremism Exposed >> Deport the terrorists – and their families too http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1542007568 Message started by Frank on Nov 12th, 2018 at 5:26pm |
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Title: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 12th, 2018 at 5:26pm
Australian National University terrorism and counterterrorism expert Professor Clive Williams has said he has no doubts that deporting whole families of convicted terrorists would open the flood gates of intelligence from families about family members who have become radicalised – and be generally effective from a counterterrorism point of view.
The ironic reality, though, is that the very countries at risk are unable to put such a policy into effect. Williams also says it is not going to happen in a Western democracy. More’s the pity, I suggest. True enough, the new laws that we seem to need would tackle the thorny area where democracy interacts with anti-terrorism. The new law would need to permit the deportation, if possible, or home arrest if not, of the jihadi’s family. Yes, I know, it bristles against our democratic principles, but slaughter in our streets bristles much more. https://www.spectator.com.au/2018/11/deport-the-terrorists-and-their-families-too/ I have been saying this for a long time. After every Islamic terror attack here the 'community' and the family immediately come out claiming how shocked they all are and how unexpected it all is. I don't believe a word they say. The are just closing ranks. If you took away their welfare for harbouring and not reporting terrorists and even deported them, they would be far more active in rooting out the terrorists among them. Now they have nothing to lose which must change. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Yadda on Nov 12th, 2018 at 5:46pm I don't disagree. Q. But how would/could we [lawfully] apply that to followers of ISLAM [and members of their families] who were born here in Australia ? I can imagine that it may be very, very difficult, legally, to 'deport' such people. They would have 'iron clad' protections, as Australian citizens, under Australian law. And where would we deport them to Frank, if they are Australian born ? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Yadda on Nov 12th, 2018 at 5:56pm I see lawful administrative detention of such people, as an option. ------ > QUARANTINE WORKS!! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34 and.... The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0 |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 12th, 2018 at 7:13pm
Good article Frank,
it would certainly help our situation. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Yadda on Nov 12th, 2018 at 10:56pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Yes, i concur. Good article Frank. And that article also confronts our conundrum; How do we protect a civil society, without damaging the legal rights of the [i.e. of every] law-abiding individual ? Quote:
Q. Is the 'civil society' which, today, we have all come to take for granted [i.e. it was our forefathers who made the sacrifices to give us this gift and inheritance, of a society which [imperfectly] has perpetuated the peace and prosperity which we all enjoy], worth [worthy of] protecting ? . "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." Karl Popper "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." Thomas Mann |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 12th, 2018 at 11:02pm
Deport Yadda and his hate-propagating ilk.
Let the Saudi Arabian embassy have the contract for Yadda's disposal. So much hate infesting one person. Yadda the hate reservoir. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Yadda on Nov 12th, 2018 at 11:14pm Laugh till you cry, Oh, i'm so, so wounded and hurt!! :) ;D Got anything better [more hurtful] ? :P |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 12th, 2018 at 11:28pm Yadda wrote on Nov 12th, 2018 at 11:14pm:
Yadda's birth certificate. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Yadda on Nov 13th, 2018 at 9:30am Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 12th, 2018 at 11:28pm:
Yes, people born in the civilised 1st world, all have one. Are you jealous ? Everyone say, 'Aaaaaw'. for people like Laugh till you cry. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 13th, 2018 at 11:56am
Make it easy for the families to leave, give them financial incentives to go to a country of the choice, show them glossy brochures of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, of their towering mosques and people praying
Pay for their airfares, pay a months rent for when they arrive in the new country. Pay the deposit for a new car and a fridge. Buy them food for a month Generally make them an offer they can't refuse |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Karnal on Nov 13th, 2018 at 1:41pm Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 11:56am:
How do you offer settlement in another country, Bias? They have to issue things called visas. Aren't you into national sovereignty? Did you see how hard it was for Turnbull to get Mr Trump to take in a few hundred? Mr Trump was cranky Turnbull even asked. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:07pm
It's come to the point where we need to follow Trump's lead and ban immigrants from certain countries. Starting with bloody Somalia. Next put a 10 year restriction on refugees getting citizenship. Muck up within 10 years and it's back to their 3rd world craphole. Easy!!!
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:37pm Yadda wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 9:30am:
Yadda, you once confessed to being adopted. That explains your ravenous hunger for approval and belonging which has driven you into the arms of Nazis and bigots. Yadda is incapable of love, warmth, and human fellowship. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by xeej on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:44pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
This is not an unreasonable request, after all there are valid reasons the US have banned immigration from certain countries, this would make Australians feel safer and enable us to see that at least something is being done, not just more bollards and candles. 10yrs would be a reasonable time for citizenship providing they are paying taxes and not having 10 kids each. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Karnal on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:44pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
Not easy. You'd have to find another country to take them. You can't send refugees back to their country of origin. Despite the Refugee Treaty, most countries wouldn't take them back anyway. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:46pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
How about stopping all immigration & sending all the bad ones back - citizens or not? Melbourne already has 5 million people - it's too many. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:46pm Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:44pm:
Then it's off to Nauru. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:50pm Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:44pm:
The deportation of provocateurs and instigators like Mr. Hammer and his ilk would do more to reduce violent deaths in Australia. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:51pm Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:44pm:
Then you take them by ship & throw overboard during the night when you are 500 meters from their shoreline. Give them a life jacket - you have to be fair about it. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:52pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Stop trying to get attention. You read like a little school girl who has just pissed her pants. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:54pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Yes. I've been saying that for a long time now. These right-wing extremists are doing more harm than anyone else. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:54pm:
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:00pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:57pm:
He wouldn't have been there, if not for people like you. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:01pm
The biggest danger that Mr. Hammer and Bobby face is slipping on their own urine and banging their heads on the ground.
Fortunately, the ground is hard in Australia and can resist being damaged by Mr. Hammer, Bobby, and their ilk. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:00pm:
Wrong way around. He wouldn't be in Australia if it was up to people like me. It's you reffo loving leftists who brought Islamic Terrorism to this country. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:12pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
If the USA wasn't bombing multiple countries for no reason other than enriching the US military-industrial complex and blooding their soldiers there would be no Muslim refugees. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:22pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
No. It's people like you who brought it here, and you're all too stupid to realise it. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:26pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:46pm:
That's too much to wish for Bobby. The richos want cheap 3rd world labor for their sweat shops. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:26pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:22pm:
Somalia? How? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:28pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:12pm:
Explain the reffos from countries the americans didn't wage war on dipshit? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:31pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:26pm:
English immigrants have killed more Australians than Muslims ever will. Can we start with them? To sweeten the deal we could offer them their ten pounds back. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:34pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:31pm:
How about your family give back the 50 grand they paid to people smugglers to get here? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Karnal on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:57pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:46pm:
Back to the drawing board, eh? Easy. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:00pm Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:57pm:
I believe this will be settled another way in time. If a bomb goes off and kills 100 people you'll see a different side to this debate. Right now it's just bubbling away. It won't take much for it to catch on fire. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Karnal on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:00pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:57pm:
True, but the one on trial now in Melbourne's a Greek. WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:03pm Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:00pm:
He was having a meth induced schizophrenic episode. There was no political motive to his murders so it isn't defined as terrorism. I'd have him hung if I had my way though. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:05pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
Of course you would. As I said, it's people like you who are the problem. You think violence is the answer to everything. Nothing will ever get better while people like you are out there. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Yadda on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:06pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
Much better Laugh, but no cigar. :) ;) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:08pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:05pm:
So what do you propose? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:09pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:08pm:
An end to violence. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Sometimes that's all that is left. I doubt the Australian people are going to tolerate years and years of Islamic terrorism attacks. Something will happen. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:14pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 3:26pm:
The minimum wage is way above slave rates. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:16pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 4:22pm:
Hi Hammer, The butcher of Baghdad - known as Saddam, knew what to do too. There were no terrorists there when he was running the show. They were all buried in the desert. Do you think the limp wristed politicians we have can solve it? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:18pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:14pm:
It's a wonder people can live on $800 for a 40 hour week in Sydney and Melbourne. That's what most sweat shops pay. 3rd world migrants don't join the union and would give the boss a bj if they asked. That's why they like them. Richos in the US love them. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:21pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:18pm:
The USA is far worse - try $3 per hour especially for Mexican toilet cleaners. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:22pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:21pm:
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:25pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:18pm:
That's above minimum wage. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:25pm:
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:36pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:28pm:
I agree. I'm just sayin', if the sweat shops are paying $800, they're being generous (in the eyes of the law). |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:39pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:22pm:
Many people are paid way below the legal minimum award wage here. Just look at WhiteKnight's posts. He covers that nearly every day. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:42pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:39pm:
Thanks to the Libs. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:46pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:36pm:
Generous? 3rd world migrants do many of these jobs. That's why the man loves them. Same as in the states. And that's for both parties. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:48pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:46pm:
In the eyes of the law, yes - generous. $800 is above the minimum wage. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
Will Labor stop it? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Auggie on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
Incorrect. Illegal immigration drives down wages. It's impossible for the Government to monitor and crackdown on every single breach of employment. The more 'breaches' there are, the harder it is for the Government to crack down. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:56pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:48pm:
Don't you get $300+ an hour. What would you know about any of that? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:56pm Auggie wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:48pm:
No. I'm right on the money. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:58pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:48pm:
Stop? Probably not. They'll do a lot more to discourage the practice, though. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:58pm:
What will discouraging do? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 13th, 2018 at 6:01pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 5:59pm:
Reduce the number of workers who are underpaid. That's a good thing, don't you think? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 13th, 2018 at 6:49pm
I wonder why all Christians aren't condemned when a Christian breaks the law?
I wonder why all Hindus aren't condemned when a Hindu breaks the law? I wonder why all Buddhists aren't condemned when a Buddhist breaks the law? I wonder why all the Zoroastrians aren't condemned when a Zoroastrian breaks the law? Gee, only Muslims are told they are responsible for the actions of all Muslims continually. I wonder why? Could it be Islamophobia? Nah! Of course not, no one here suffers from Islamophobia, now do they? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 13th, 2018 at 6:52pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 6:49pm:
Apologist for Muslim atrocities. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 13th, 2018 at 6:54pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 6:49pm:
Do any of those groups praise their god in a similar way muslim terrorists chant allahu akbar when breaking our laws? I see why you spend so much time here and at PA, nobody could be bothered with your idiocy at your forum. ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Auggie on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:12pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 6:49pm:
None of those religions are totalitarian, militant ideologies. Of course, everything can be used for good or bad, Brian. The question is what does the ideology teach? You would think it absurd if someone claimed that Nazism was a peaceful ideology. What if I came out here and said: "Verily verily, I believe that Adolf Hitler was a Prophet of God, send by Him to conquer and change the world." You and I then get into a spout about how evil Nazism is, and then I use clever mental acrobatics to defend the Holocaust or its atrocities, or say things like: "Hitler was innocent; he had no choice, the Great Satan, the Soviet Union was going to turn on him; he was engaging in pre-emptive warfare..." That's what apologists for Muhammad say: that he was engaging in pre-emptive warfare. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Auggie on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:13pm Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Brian Ross isn't a member at PA. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:19pm Auggie wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Is this the same person? http://www.polanimal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=240093#p240093 |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Auggie on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:22pm Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:19pm:
My mistake, it seems I was confused. There are 2 Polanimals, not one as I thought there was. Carry on. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Black Orchid on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:34pm
There is only one PA. THE REAL PA!
The other is a fake cloned by a disgruntled ex member. Carry on. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Yadda on Nov 13th, 2018 at 8:47pm Black Orchid wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:34pm:
You go girl! ;) ;D |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 13th, 2018 at 8:55pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 6:49pm:
You wonder because you are a bloody idiot, Bwian. Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians - and Christians and Jews and the rest - are not breaking the law BECAUSE their religion is contrary to the law. Muslims, on the other hand, break the law because they do not accept it, they put Islamic sharia law above the law. And Islam and sharia tells them to scourge the infidels wherever you find them. That's why they Allahu Akhbar when they stab a cafe owner who comes to their aid. That's why the Allahu Akhbar when they shoot a police accountant in the back, drive trucks into crowds of people who gave them asylum, rape and murder for Allah. Muslims commit these crimes for Islam. They call it jihad, fighting in Allah's way. They are acting very Islamically. They call it their culture, their values, their way of life. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Dnarever on Nov 13th, 2018 at 9:01pm Quote:
Can't be too careful - How about the neighbours too ? Workmates ? You never know ? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Aussie on Nov 13th, 2018 at 9:16pm Black Orchid wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:34pm:
There is one PA i.e Monk's and ... there is also a sewer where they hide more than half the Forum from everyone except the elite.....for very good reason. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by cods on Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:03am Aussie wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 9:16pm:
are you claiming the Fake PA doesnt have a secret room only members can see?????>.. ::) ::) you wouldnt lie about that would you? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Agnes on Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:12am
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by gandalf on Nov 14th, 2018 at 11:39am Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2018 at 5:26pm:
I suspect it will simply cause the muslim community to descend into open civil war, as neighbour is pitted against neighbour in witch hunts to save their own hides. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:09pm Auggie wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:12pm:
Don't know much about history, do you, Auggie? Christians in Spain, the New World, Africa, Asia were a "totalitarian, militant ideology". Millions of people died when Spain conquered the New World, millions died when Portugal/Holland/Britain/France/Germany conquered Africa and Asia. Nothing Islam does is new under the sun. It has all been done before, by Judiasm/Christianity/Islam/Hinduism/Buddhism/etc. Virtually all religions are to some extent at least, evangelical and imperial. ::) Quote:
The ideology teaches what the students want to learn, Auggie. Jews/Christians/Hindus/Buddhists/etc. all believed they were "saved" and they wanted to share that with other people, by force if necessary. Christianity has learnt to hide it's bloody past, it seems. Funny that, hey? ::) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:10pm
So how do you suggest we tackle the new threat of Islamic Terrorism in our country Brian?
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:19pm Frank wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 8:55pm:
I am sure you have failed or perhaps never understood the Islamic instruction contained in Surah Al-Ma’idah 5:1 and Surah An-Nahl 16:91, right, Soren? Get back to us when you've read them, OK? Quote:
As those two quotes prove, those are not true Muslims. Anyway Hassan Khalif Shire Ali was a substance abusing, mentally unstable man. Amazing how reality trips you up, yet again, in your Islamophobia, hey, Soren? Tsk, tsk. ::) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:20pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:10pm:
What "new threat", Hammer? Is it something you just discovered under your bed? We have had a threat of Islamist Terrorism in Australia now since the 1960s. Of course, it's first targets were Israelis and we know you don't like Jews, so they didn't count, right? Run along, Hammer, crawl back under your bed covers. You can hide there as long as you like. ::) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:23pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:10pm:
Apologists don't even see a threat. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:24pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:20pm:
I thought so. No answer. A man who just blew into the country tried to make his car a massive bomb to kill hundreds of random innocent people . And it's still overexaggerate media blow up to you. So how do you suggest we tackle it brian? Any answer? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Agnes on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:28pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:24pm:
:o :o :o |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Agnes on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:30pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:23pm:
they are part of the problem |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:34pm Agnes wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:30pm:
Terrorists need to be buried in the desert by the army. That's what Saddam would do. We'd have no terrorist problems if Saddam was in charge. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:35pm Agnes wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
His car had gas cylinders in the boot Agnes. He set it alight to blow up a building. Read the news. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Bobby on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:50pm People like Greggy & Brian live in a thought bubble of democratic freedom and democracy where even terrorists have rights. They don't - they are enemy combatants in a time of war. It's a war on terror. The law is simple - in a time of war, traitors, spies and enemy infiltrators caught behind enemy lines i.e our streets should be put up against a wall and shot by law - no trial. The law in times of war allows for that. Instead we have limp wristed apologists & politicians with no balls who sit around making new laws and caring about human rights. ISIS didn't make any headway in Iraq when Saddam was in charge did they? It was only after he was hanged that they took over. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2018 at 4:27pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:24pm:
Why blame his religion, Hammer? He was known to be a substance abusing, mentally unstable individual. The Authorities looked at him and dismissed him. Yet, ASIO and the other intelligence/policing authorities get a free watch from you in favour of attacking an entire religious group which is made up overwhelmingly of law abiding, peaceful people? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. No, you don't suffer from Islamophobia, do you, Hammer? No, not at all. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Mr Hammer on Nov 14th, 2018 at 4:32pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 4:27pm:
When people stop trying to commit mass killings in the name of Islam I'll have a better opinion of Islam. It's a natural response to a problem. If Buddhists in Australia were doing this s hit I'd have the same opinion of Buddhism. I concern myself with relevant issues Brian. I don't sweep them under the rug and out of mind like you do because you are afraid of insulting Mohammod down the street. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 14th, 2018 at 5:05pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 11:39am:
If Muslim neighbour is pitted against Muslim neighbour because they cannot reconcile their sharia adherence with living in a Western democracy, let them at it. A far, far better option than allowing them to continue targeting non-Muslims. Muslims need to sort themselves out and if murdering each other is the only way they know how to sort things out among themselves (historically, that seems to be the case) then that's what needs to happen. There is no reason to keep non-Muslims in their cross-hairs just because Muslims could kill each other if they can't continue killing us. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by gandalf on Nov 14th, 2018 at 5:23pm Frank wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 5:05pm:
I meant they'll do it because they are terrified at the thought of being deported. My point was that it would be quite counter-productive from a counterterrorism point of view - the authorities will be swamped with false leads - while the real terrorists slip through the cracks. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 14th, 2018 at 5:37pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 4:32pm:
So, in your opinion this all the fault of all the Muslims? Again I ask, why aren't you blaming all the Christians for all the crimes committed by Christians? How about Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.? Do they get blame for the crimes committed by their brethren, Mmmm? The reality is, you have picked out one man - a man who has been revealed to be a substance abusing, delusional, mentally unstable person and decided to blame his crimes on all Muslims. Muslims whom are overwhelmingly peaceful, law-abiding people. Not terribly fair but not unusual for an Islamophobe. Run along, Hammer. Run back to your little kiddies' playground, please. I can hear your nursemaid calling you. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Secret Wars on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:00pm
They can't be deported, no bugger wants them. Best you can hope for is to revoke passports, even then you would have to deal with the outraged luvvie protection racket, who for reasons known only to themselves, though possible related to wishing the worst for the west generally, have a massive hard on for Islam.
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by gandalf on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:08pm Secret Wars wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Right, so just let me get this straight secret - an extremist wants to leave Australia to commit terrorism in another country, and you think the "best you can hope for is to revoke his passport"? You realise that was the exact problem in this case right? He couldn't carry out his terrorism safely off Australia's shores, so he ended up carrying out his terrorism in Australia. Entirely predictable of course. How about "the best we can hope for" is to cancel passports *AND* follow up with some measures to try and prevent him for targeting Australians - when after all he is forced to stay amongst Australians? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Secret Wars on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:16pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:08pm:
I was thinking about the ones returning from choppy choppy holidays. And in that case you outline, yes, you would have to cancel the passport in the majority of cases, depending on the country and circumstances. The reason being is intelligence agencies exist within a web of mutual information sharing, you would have to pass on what you know otherwise you get left out of that intelligence sharing. A circumstance might be travel to a third country through a second, in that circumstance the country may allow it to aid its own agencies in following up transit arrangements and personnel. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Yadda on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:23pm Secret Wars wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
------ > QUARANTINE WORKS!! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34 and.... The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0 |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Dnarever on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:54pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:23pm:
I think that most people see a problem just that some don't see making the problem worse as being part of the solution. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by moses on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:49pm
They say the truth comes out when you’re drunk.
As it turns out, published research proves that statement is surprisingly accurate. When drinking alcohol, the tongue is freed up to say exactly what is in a person’s heart. As blood alcohol levels continue to climb, the responses become increasingly primitive and hostile. In the past, it’s been easy to blame drunk and disturbing behaviors on alcohol, but that’s not cutting it anymore. Simply put, researchers were able to show that alcohol consumption does not prevent self-control – it just makes people care less about the consequences. I'd say the same thing applies to hard core drug users, the real man comes out as they are now entirely unsuppressed by morals laws societal norms etc.. A drug affected muslim jihadist simply follows the qur'an no matter how malefic it would have been to a normal person. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:50pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:08pm:
He wanted to join the Caliphate in Syria where Yazidi sex slaves were sold in markets and live the good old Islamic life like your prophet Muhammad with rape pillage plunder and hacking the heads off those who don't do Islam. Since you say it's inevitable he would do Islamic terror here since he couldn't leave then surely it's better to restrict muslims from coming here in the first place. Are we to end up like japan where every mosque is monitored, should we put that burden on taxpayers or ask muslims to chip in for the costs? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 15th, 2018 at 6:40pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 5:23pm:
What you ARE saying is that Muslims can't be trusted either way. That is what you are saying. They have split loyalties they cannot ever resolve. That is what you are saying. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Auggie on Nov 15th, 2018 at 7:02pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
Brian, the point isn't about the peaceful majority. The peaceful majority have never mattered. Most Germans were peaceful yet the Nazis came to power; most Russians were peaceful, yet the Bolsheviks came to power; most Chinese were peaceful, yet the Communists came to power. The disorganised peaceful majority have never mattered. What has mattered is the organised militant minority. No Christian, Buddhist or other religious groups have such global reach both financially and ideologically as Islamism. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 15th, 2018 at 7:12pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 11:39am:
The counterterrorism expert said it would open the floodgates with intelligence from familes it didn't mention muslim neighbors having a civil war, or are you saying due to inbreeding muslim neighbors are related? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 15th, 2018 at 10:02pm Auggie wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 7:02pm:
You're assuming several things there, Auggie. The first is that Muslims are automatically and always going to be disorganised. The second is that disorganisation is a weakness. It isn't. It is a strength because it makes it harder for a firebrand to control them. The third and perhaps the largest is that you are assuming that the tiny minority whom are Terrorists are organised sufficiently to assume the role of a vanguard party and control all the other Muslims. The reason why vanguard parties were able to control Nazi Germany was because they legally took control of the state. In Soviet Russia, they took control through a Coup d'etat after a devastating war and revolution. Neither is likely to occur in Australia. There simply aren't sufficient Terrorists, let alone Muslims to sustain that sort of effort. You are letting Islamophobic fantasies rule your mind, Auggie. Please, at least make an effort to be sensible. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by gandalf on Nov 16th, 2018 at 2:12pm Auggie wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 7:02pm:
The nazis got 33% of the vote in the last free and fair elections of the Weimar Republic, and won the single biggest block of seats in the Reichstag. The next highest vote was a distant 20%. Not a majority, I'll grant you, but it is about the same as what the ALP get across the country, and we wouldn't call the ALP a fringe party. Imagine if muslim majority countries voted anywhere near 33% for ISIS, and it was by far the single biggest political party in terms of elected representation. Never mind a terrorist threat, it would basically be WWIII. So yeah, the mainstream does matter. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2018 at 8:23pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 10:02pm:
You are ignorant, out of your mind, can't comprehend basic information, can't assess basic historical facts. Your first and your second show just how stupid you are - Muslim disorganisation is a strength. Your madness is your strength, in other words. Mad people took charge legally in Germany and illegally in the Soviet. So neither legal and illegal taking control by mad people is likely in Australia - because there aren't enough terrorists in Oz - you are a FVkcen idiot, Bwian. You are stupid and ignorant and stunted beyond belief. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Auggie on Nov 16th, 2018 at 8:51pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 2:12pm:
The point is that people always hark about the 'peaceful majority'. As you've just conceded, it's not about the majority, it's about the organised minority that is organised enough to get votes. polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 2:12pm:
They don't have to vote for ISIS, they could vote for extremist parties, not necessarily ISIS; although it would be interesting to see how many people would vote for ISIS. We don't know do we? Because they don't allow elections. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Auggie on Nov 16th, 2018 at 8:58pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 10:02pm:
No, not only Muslims; all majorities are disorganised. That is how societies work and have worked since the beginning of civilization. The minority have always governed the majority. It was the same in Christendom and in Confucianism as it in in any other culture or religious organisation. Brian Ross wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 10:02pm:
Yet, time and time again, we see that the masses often fall for the firebrand - Hitler, Mao, and now Trump and Erdogan. People are stupid, Brian. History keeps repeating itself. The masses are and have always been disorganised. Brian Ross wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 10:02pm:
It's not just Terrorists, it's also extremists which encompass a greater proportion. Terrorists are the worsts of the lot and then are the extremists. And in addition to that, it's who supports those extremist groups from among the masses. There are concentric circles. Brian Ross wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 10:02pm:
The Nazis did take power legally as you put it; they also had a paramilitary force behind them which intimidated Communists and 'Socialists'. And when you 'not enough', what do you mean? Saudi Arabia has billions of dollars to spend on promoting extremist Islamism. How many people does it take? 100,000? 1,000,000? How many Islamist terrorists do you believe there in the world? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Term Dog on Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:09pm Auggie wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 8:58pm:
Muslims suffer cultural retardation, Christians were at the same spot muzzie culture is now about 1500years ago. Picking muzzies up and plonking them in advanced societies and expecting them to just to get it and assimilate is ideological incompetence. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:15pm Term Dog wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:09pm:
That's the long and the short of it. Difference. It's important. It's big and far-reaching. Not to be ignored. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:49pm Auggie wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 8:58pm:
But only with the consent of the majority, Auggie. That is how democracy works, afterall. Quote:
That though, is because people believe in what the firebrand promises. Look at ISIS - initially hated, later competitive and finally hated again. Bolshevism fell because of it's unpopularity - no one cared or believed about the promises it made of a better life. Quote:
No, they are more like Venn Diagrams, Auggie. Overlapping interests which coincide until the stresses of compromise become too great. Quote:
But they also intimidated the masses as well. By 1945, few supported the Nazis - most just went along because the Nazis threatened and enacted vengeance against them. Once they were defeated, no one admitted to being a Nazi, Auggie. Quote:
Saudi Arabia exists purely because the Royal Family with the British help, created it. The Wahabbis were a minor faction which entered into a compact with the Royal Family - we will back you, if you back us. Which the Royal Family replied - as long as you export your radicalism. OK, replied the Wahabbis. Which is what happens today. The Saudis have learnt the hard way what happens when the radicals control their society. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:38pm Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground, Soren. It is where you belong. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2018 at 5:30pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 2:12pm:
Look at Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Egypt etc - they don't have to vote for ISIS to be gruesome Islamic hellholes. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:08pm Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
So, a minority of Islamist Terrorists are suddenly able to overcome the majority, Soren? Which of those countries is ruled by ISIS again? Mmmm? ::) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2018 at 8:03pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:08pm:
The point, my myopic, mentally handicapped doktor, is - they don't NEED to be ruled by ISIS to be godawful, Islamic hellholes. They are rioting in Pakistan for the blood of a woman who drank from a cup. They, like you, are all suffering from FITH disease in Muslim countries, no need to vote ISIS. Listen to all the imams and spokes-thingies in all the Western mosques when they respond to the latest Islamic outrage perpetrated by Muslims against non-Muslims who have taken them in and given them a chance in life:they - you - ALL suffer from severe and irreversible FITH disease, from the Grand Mufti down to gandalf and you and the Paki arsebandit and the rest. Any adherence to Islam will condemn a country to backwardness, its citizens to humiliation and degradation. Islam is like 7th century Scientology. It's degrading.i |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 17th, 2018 at 9:53pm Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. I suppose that Western countries are so much more civilised when engaged in civil wars? How about the Balkans? I mean they had good ol' concentration camps where they starved the inmates. Wonderful, hey? How about central and southern America, where the Right Wing had Death Squads, where people "disappeared". People of cause got killed in those countries, they were starved of food, they had to hide in the forests, hey, nothing wrong with that, as long it's civilised Westerners doin' the Terrorising, hey? Bugger off, Soren. ISIS has been defeated. It's "caliphate" has been overthrown. It has failed. Why? Because the Iraqis and the Syrians, the Kurds, the Turks, all worked to destroy it. Why? 'Cause it was recognised as an abhomination, a perversion by the Muslim people which were it's victims. Funny that, hey? ::) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 18th, 2018 at 9:05pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 9:53pm:
The Balkans are not Western, nor is South America, ISIS - the idea of the caliphate - is not destroyed. They claimed responsibility for the Bourke Street outrage a week ago. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 18th, 2018 at 9:53pm Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 9:05pm:
They claim "responsibility" when a dog farts, Soren. ::) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2018 at 6:46pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 9:53pm:
What?? Now you don't believe Muslims?!?! Now YOU know better??? Look at the reports and the court documents about these Muslim jihadists. They say exactly the same thing all other jihadists say - it's their duty to kill the infidel. Three men have been found guilty of planning a jihadi-inspired mass casualty terror attack in Melbourne’s Federation Square at Christmas in 2016. A Supreme Court jury took six and a half days to deliver its verdict in the trial of Ahmed Mohamed, Abdullah Chaarani and Hamza Abbas, finding they had conspired with a fourth man, Ibrahim Abbas, to plan a terror attack in Melbourne’s CBD. The three men laughed and smiled at each other as the verdicts were read. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Brian Ross on Nov 19th, 2018 at 10:55pm Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. How long have you been delusional about Muslims? How long have you suffered Islamophobia? Have you sought help with your affliction? If not, why not? Is it because of the expense? I am sure we could start a crowd-funding campaign to pay for your treatment if you so desire it. Not to worry, I hear ECT does wonders for people like you. ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by gandalf on Nov 20th, 2018 at 11:07am Auggie wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
To be anything remotely comparable to the actual nazis - who enacted industrialised genocide and waged war on basically the entire world - they pretty much do. FD and co will wax lyrical all day long about how even moderate Islamic parties are even worse than the nazis, but on planet earth, we're actually talking about a systematic program of aggressive war and territorial expansion, and actual genocidal intention. The only 'Islamic' group that is even close is an ISIS type outfit, and it is patently clear that any such groups are right on the outside fringe amongst muslims themselves. As for actual elections, Indonesia does allow elections, since 1998, and it is the biggest muslim majority country. And despite the media frenzy, Islamic "extremist parties" have never been anything remotely close to the mainstream in terms of actual polling. Indonesia politics is still dominated by secular/nationalist parties. In fact most muslim-majority countries allow elections - and while its up for debate as to how free and fair they are, you can still get a pretty clear picture as to what sort of political movements are favoured amongst the mainstream - and it clearly isn't ISIS type parties. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by .JaSin. on Nov 20th, 2018 at 11:41am Frank wrote on Nov 12th, 2018 at 5:26pm:
I agree! The Australian Politicians think they can make Australia a USA version of Politics: where a 'Privatised' political system just exploits the chaos of a nation, rather than actually 'governs' it. That's what the USA is - Politics just 'exploiting' for $$$, nothing more. The Australian Political is 'weak at the top' (unlike USA version) - so its up to the Australian 'PEOPLE POWER' to make the rules. The fact that the Australian Politicians had to get the 'People Vote' to decide on Same Sex Marriage shows they have no clue. The Common Wealth of the Common People (PEOPLE POWER) is what will make our future Re-PUBLIC what it will be. Until we all take to the streets in mass numbers to protest and have these Terrorists deported, the Government will continue to try and profit of the cure (at the expense of the People), rather than do their job and prevent it in the first place. In the end though - Islamic Terrorism is the last 'vapours' of a once great 'Military' Empire. It's only looking for its 'Messiah' to end things from which their 'Prophet' started it. In other words - when 'Christian' Europe sacrifices FRANCE, only then will all Moslems lay down their weapons - appeased. ...which brings in Italy later ;) Who will 'genocide' the unarmed and vulnerable Moslems. Who will come to their aid then? :-X |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Auggie on Nov 20th, 2018 at 6:15pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 20th, 2018 at 11:07am:
The Nazis were able to enact industrialised genocide because they had control of an industrialised economy and society. Most, if not all Muslim-majority countries are not industrialised to the same extent as Germany was (even in the 1930s). Here's a question: what if ISIS had the industrial base to work with? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by .JaSin. on Nov 20th, 2018 at 10:15pm
The NAZIS were able to commit genocide on the Jews because the PROPHET 'Hitler' was able to allow them to do to Jews, what the Prophet Mohommed allowed Moslems to do to Christians for centuries.
Do you think NAZISM is dead? Hell, no - even the Greeks are warming up to it. The Messiah Jesus (snowflake, gay dude) is done and dusted, now its the Age of the Prophet for Christians. ...can't you see the process turning back around, since the New Worlds changed the game? ;) |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by gandalf on Nov 21st, 2018 at 8:27am Auggie wrote on Nov 20th, 2018 at 6:15pm:
What you're really asking is what if ISIS actually took over an actual country that had some semblance of an industrial base. As opposed to planting flags in the desert outside any proper country's effective control, and claiming it as a huge territorial empire. And as I've already said, it would only happen if ISIS had nazi-like popularity (eg 33% at free and fair elections), and we both know its the sort of popularity ISIS only dreams of. But if they did, sure, I already pointed out it would basically be WWIII with genocides up the wazoo. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 21st, 2018 at 5:38pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21st, 2018 at 8:27am:
You mean what about Saudi, Iran, Pakiland? |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by gandalf on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 8:30am Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2018 at 5:38pm:
None of whom are acting like the Nazis did - as bad as they may be. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 8:15pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 8:30am:
So as long as the bearded Islamic monster regimes remain just a little sub-Nazi, they are OK to carry on being Islamic monster regime for decades and centuries. You will turn yourself inside out - have been for centuries - as long as you, a Muslim, can claim no relation to Islam if that relationship entails ANY responsibility for what Islam actually IS in the world. Is a Muslim responsible for ANYTHING? Or is everything simply Allah's unfathomable command? Is that why you all sh!t yourselves when the notion of responsibility ever comes up? Insh'allah, 24/7, innit. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Frank on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 8:39pm
Islamic enrichment of the West, case No 18,756,987:
Christmas Market in Berlin, 2018 |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Karnal on Nov 23rd, 2018 at 12:51am Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2018 at 8:39pm:
Looting the vege stalls, are they? Typical. That must be the biggest wall Berlin's ever had, no? Still, if you like walls, old boy, you'll love Mr Trump's plans for the Mexican border. It's wall-to-wall walls there. Constant construction. A miracle of modern engineering. As you've always said, the more walls we can fit in the better. Quite so. |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by gandalf on Nov 23rd, 2018 at 7:45am Karnal wrote on Nov 23rd, 2018 at 12:51am:
;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Fuzzball on Nov 23rd, 2018 at 8:06am
Deport them after they've been hanged.........and the families can make the journey back to their land of origin with the body..........never to return!
;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Deport the terrorists – and their families too Post by Karnal on Nov 23rd, 2018 at 5:10pm Fuzzball wrote on Nov 23rd, 2018 at 8:06am:
Just no Saudis though, Matty. Mr Trump's done an arms deal with them. |
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