Quote:

Muslim London: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts London —Britain has been acquiring an increasingly Islamic face, with hundreds of official Shariah courts operating in the capital and many mosques dotting many cities. “London is more Islamic than many Muslim countries put together,” Maulana Syed Raza Rizvi, an Islamic preacher, was quoted as saying in the local media. “Terrorists can not stand London’s multiculturalism”, London Mayor Sadiq Khan said after the deadly terror attack at Westminster last year. There are 423 new mosques in London and most of these mosques are crowded at prayer times unlike many churches which rarely see visitors. The Daily Mail published photographs of a church and a mosque a few meters from each other in the heart of London. At the Church of San Giorgio, designed to accommodate 1,230 worshipers, only 12 people gathered to celebrate Mass. At the Church of Santa Maria, there were 20 The nearby Brune Street Estate mosque has a different problem: overcrowding. Its small room can contain only 100. By 2020, estimates are that the number of Muslims attending prayers will reach at least 683,000, while the number of Christians attending weekly Mass will drop to 679,000. Since 2001, 500 London churches of all denominations have been turned into private homes. During the same period, British mosques have been proliferating. Between 2012 and 2014, the proportion of Britons who identify themselves as Anglicans fell from 21% to 17%, a decrease of 1.7 million people, while, according to a survey conducted by the respected NatCen Social Research Institute, the number of Muslims has grown by almost a million. Churchgoers are declining at a rate that within a generation, their number will be three times lower than that of Muslims who go regularly to mosque on Friday. London is also full of Shariah courts. There are officially 100. The advent of this parallel judicial system has been made possible thanks to the British Arbitration Act and the system of Alternative Dispute Resolution. British universities are also advancing Islamic law.

ya better wake up peoples..

hold onto your guns....

put Greens, Labor, Liberal down at the bottom of your voting cards...

they are selling us out by doing whatever the UN (unelected arsewipes  >:( )  tells them to do....

Tick Tock.... time is running out...

will you sit idly by and lets your children's future be flushed down the toilet without a fight??

this isn't immigration... its colonisation ...  >:(

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   ::) ::)

Mosques are like bikie clubhouses, a code of silence, no women allowed, all for one and one for all, a place to...

Johnnie wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 11:38pm:

Mosques are like bikie clubhouses, a code of silence, no women allowed, all for one and one for all, a place to...

You don't know much about Mosques, do you, little boy?  Oh, well, off back to the little kiddies' playground with you, where your little friends can put up with your ignorance and bigotry.  Tsk, tsk, such a WAFTM you are, just like Mechie has become.   ::) ::)

If abolishing all mosques can prevent one fifteen year old retard from becoming 'radicalised' and killing an innocent - it will be worth it...

.. and now to our comedy hour with Yaesu and Ach-med:-


"An Arab man is walking his animals when out of nowhere Jesus appears.

"Hi good man, could I speak to your dog?"

The man replies,

"Jesus, my dog can't speak"

Jesus ignores the comment and adresses the dog

"Dog, how are you doing, are you treated fair?"

The dog replies,

"My lord, I am very happy. My owner feeds me well, walks me 3 times a day, and plays with me all the time."

The Arab man stands there in astonishment.

Jesus asks:-

"My good man, could I now speak to your horse?"

The man replies,

"Jesus, my horse can not speak."

Jesus still addresses the horse

"Great beast, how are you, are you treated well?

The horse replies,

"My lord, I am a mighty happy horse. I am walked and trained many times a day, fed very well, my hair is always combed, and all is good."

At this point the man is at loss for words......

Then Jesus asks,

"My man, may I speak to your goat?"

The man yells out,

"NO, NOT THE GOAT, THE GOAT IS A LIAR!"

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 10:11pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   ::) ::)

So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input.
How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  ;)
People are worried, and rightly so.

Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 4:23am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 10:11pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   ::) ::) So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input.

People will obey Sh'riah law if they want, no matter what the British legal system claims, Caveman, just as Jews will obey Rabbinical courts and Catholics their own courts.   As long as both parties agree what ever settlement reached is OK and that the court is fair, they'll do what they want.


Quote:

How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  ;)

Why bother?  It is an Islamophobic post made by an Islamophobic poster.   What happens in the UK concerns the UK.  The UK is a secular society, not a Christian one.   Something which appears to have escaped the writer of the article for some obscure reason...   ::)


Quote:

People are worried, and rightly so.

People are worried because they fear the unknown.  Few people have ever encountered a Muslim, let alone discussed their religion with one.  People generally fear the "other", the "unknown" and Islam and Muslims are the current bogeymen because the media and the politicians have played it as one.   Everything claimed about Muslims has been claimed about, downunder, the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Germans, the English, the Indochinese, the Chinese, the Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.   All have been proven false for those immigrant groups.  I do not doubt everything claimed about Muslims will prove to be just as false. In 20-30 years time our children will learn with surprise that their Muslim mates were once feared. Tsk, tsk.   ::)

That's London done for me.

I'll never go there again

Unless the English wake up to themselves and drive the animals out of England.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 4:41pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:23am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 10:11pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   ::) ::) So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input. People will obey Sh'riah law if they want, no matter what the British legal system claims, Caveman, just as Jews will obey Rabbinical courts and Catholics their own courts.   As long as both parties agree what ever settlement reached is OK and that the court is fair, they'll do what they want. Quote: How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  ;) Why bother?  It is an Islamophobic post made by an Islamophobic poster.   What happens in the UK concerns the UK.  The UK is a secular society, not a Christian one.   Something which appears to have escaped the writer of the article for some obscure reason...   ::) [quote] People are worried, and rightly so.

People are worried because they fear the unknown.  Few people have ever encountered a Muslim, let alone discussed their religion with one.  People generally fear the "other", the "unknown" and Islam and Muslims are the current bogeymen because the media and the politicians have played it as one.   Everything claimed about Muslims has been claimed about, downunder, the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Germans, the English, the Indochinese, the Chinese, the Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.   All have been proven false for those immigrant groups.  I do not doubt everything claimed about Muslims will prove to be just as false. In 20-30 years time our children will learn with surprise that their Muslim mates were once feared. Tsk, tsk.   ::)[/quote]

For all your pseudo-intellectual waffle you really must have your head up your jacksie.

"What happens in the UK concerns the UK?"

And you don't think that what happens there isn't happening here?

Like everything else we're just that little bit behind ey.

And you don't have any global awareness of the effects of the mass migration of so called refugees across Europe?

You need a labrador & a white cane.

I was in London last month.

I can tell you this, I see more Muslims in a day here in Vic Park than I saw in a day in London.

And Vic Park is a great place to live.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

I was in London last month. I can tell you this, I see more Muslims in a day here in Vic Park than I saw in a day in London. And Vic Park is a great place to live.

;D Get your own labrador & white cane Brian needs his.

Gnads wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 5:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:41pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:23am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 10:11pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   ::) ::) So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input. People will obey Sh'riah law if they want, no matter what the British legal system claims, Caveman, just as Jews will obey Rabbinical courts and Catholics their own courts.   As long as both parties agree what ever settlement reached is OK and that the court is fair, they'll do what they want. Quote: How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  ;) Why bother?  It is an Islamophobic post made by an Islamophobic poster.   What happens in the UK concerns the UK.  The UK is a secular society, not a Christian one.   Something which appears to have escaped the writer of the article for some obscure reason...   ::) [quote] People are worried, and rightly so. People are worried because they fear the unknown.  Few people have ever encountered a Muslim, let alone discussed their religion with one.  People generally fear the "other", the "unknown" and Islam and Muslims are the current bogeymen because the media and the politicians have played it as one.   Everything claimed about Muslims has been claimed about, downunder, the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Germans, the English, the Indochinese, the Chinese, the Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.   All have been proven false for those immigrant groups.  I do not doubt everything claimed about Muslims will prove to be just as false. In 20-30 years time our children will learn with surprise that their Muslim mates were once feared. Tsk, tsk.   ::)

For all your pseudo-intellectual waffle you really must have your head up your jacksie.

"What happens in the UK concerns the UK?"

And you don't think that what happens there isn't happening here?

Like everything else we're just that little bit behind ey.

And you don't have any global awareness of the effects of the mass migration of so called refugees across Europe?

You need a labrador & a white cane.[/quote]


The UK is this silly little nation in Europe, Gnads.  Australia is the Pacific, straddling the connection to the Indian ocean.  We are a large continent.   What happens in the UK stays in the UK, no matter what you might claim.   Time you learned the difference between the two nations, methinks.   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:41pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:41pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:23am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 10:11pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   ::) ::) So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input. People will obey Sh'riah law if they want, no matter what the British legal system claims, Caveman, just as Jews will obey Rabbinical courts and Catholics their own courts.   As long as both parties agree what ever settlement reached is OK and that the court is fair, they'll do what they want. Quote: How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  ;) Why bother?  It is an Islamophobic post made by an Islamophobic poster.   What happens in the UK concerns the UK.  The UK is a secular society, not a Christian one.   Something which appears to have escaped the writer of the article for some obscure reason...   ::) [quote] People are worried, and rightly so. People are worried because they fear the unknown.  Few people have ever encountered a Muslim, let alone discussed their religion with one.  People generally fear the "other", the "unknown" and Islam and Muslims are the current bogeymen because the media and the politicians have played it as one.   Everything claimed about Muslims has been claimed about, downunder, the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Germans, the English, the Indochinese, the Chinese, the Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.   All have been proven false for those immigrant groups.  I do not doubt everything claimed about Muslims will prove to be just as false. In 20-30 years time our children will learn with surprise that their Muslim mates were once feared. Tsk, tsk.   ::) For all your pseudo-intellectual waffle you really must have your head up your jacksie. "What happens in the UK concerns the UK?" And you don't think that what happens there isn't happening here? Like everything else we're just that little bit behind ey. And you don't have any global awareness of the effects of the mass migration of so called refugees across Europe? You need a labrador & a white cane.

The UK is this silly little nation in Europe, Gnads.  Australia is the Pacific, straddling the connection to the Indian ocean.  We are a large continent.   What happens in the UK stays in the UK, no matter what you might claim.   Time you learned the difference between the two nations, methinks.   ::) ::)[/quote]
Heritage means a lot to many people Brian. many Australian people have countless ancestors that come from the UK.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 6:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:30pm: The UK is this silly little nation in Europe, Gnads.  Australia is the Pacific, straddling the connection to the Indian ocean.  We are a large continent.   What happens in the UK stays in the UK, no matter what you might claim.   Time you learned the difference between the two nations, methinks.   ::) ::) Heritage means a lot to many people Brian. many Australian people have countless ancestors that come from the UK.

But they are not from the UK, themselves, now are they, Hammer?  They don't live in the UK, they don't vote in UK elections.  They are Australians.   What occurs in the UK stays in the UK.  Simples really.    ::) ::)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 8:53pm:

Quote: Muslim London: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts London —Britain has been acquiring an increasingly Islamic face, with hundreds of official Shariah courts operating in the capital and many mosques dotting many cities. “London is more Islamic than many Muslim countries put together,” Maulana Syed Raza Rizvi, an Islamic preacher, was quoted as saying in the local media. “Terrorists can not stand London’s multiculturalism”, London Mayor Sadiq Khan said after the deadly terror attack at Westminster last year. There are 423 new mosques in London and most of these mosques are crowded at prayer times unlike many churches which rarely see visitors. The Daily Mail published photographs of a church and a mosque a few meters from each other in the heart of London. At the Church of San Giorgio, designed to accommodate 1,230 worshipers, only 12 people gathered to celebrate Mass. At the Church of Santa Maria, there were 20 The nearby Brune Street Estate mosque has a different problem: overcrowding. Its small room can contain only 100. By 2020, estimates are that the number of Muslims attending prayers will reach at least 683,000, while the number of Christians attending weekly Mass will drop to 679,000. Since 2001, 500 London churches of all denominations have been turned into private homes. During the same period, British mosques have been proliferating. Between 2012 and 2014, the proportion of Britons who identify themselves as Anglicans fell from 21% to 17%, a decrease of 1.7 million people, while, according to a survey conducted by the respected NatCen Social Research Institute, the number of Muslims has grown by almost a million. Churchgoers are declining at a rate that within a generation, their number will be three times lower than that of Muslims who go regularly to mosque on Friday. London is also full of Shariah courts. There are officially 100. The advent of this parallel judicial system has been made possible thanks to the British Arbitration Act and the system of Alternative Dispute Resolution. British universities are also advancing Islamic law.

You can't beat https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/10/london-is-more-islamic-than-many-muslim-countries-put-together-423-mosques-100-sharia-courts

... as a reliable "news" source

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 7:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:37pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:30pm: The UK is this silly little nation in Europe, Gnads.  Australia is the Pacific, straddling the connection to the Indian ocean.  We are a large continent.   What happens in the UK stays in the UK, no matter what you might claim.   Time you learned the difference between the two nations, methinks.   ::) ::) Heritage means a lot to many people Brian. many Australian people have countless ancestors that come from the UK. But they are not from the UK, themselves, now are they, Hammer?  They don't live in the UK, they don't vote in UK elections.  They are Australians.   What occurs in the UK stays in the UK.  Simples really.    ::) ::)

Don't bet.. how many 'Australian' politicians are of British birth?  They know a great little earner when they see it and bring their silly policies that have created of Britain a wasteland with them.

Another silent invasion ....

If this doesn't put the fear of God into you and make you wake up as to whats going on with this Immigrant invasion ... nothing will...

you may as well start digging your own grave...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sirj6qNLAEU

https://www.facebook.com/PrepareToTakeAmericaBack1/videos/1094353737286321/

Gnads wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 5:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:46pm: I was in London last month. I can tell you this, I see more Muslims in a day here in Vic Park than I saw in a day in London. And Vic Park is a great place to live. ;D Get your own labrador & white cane Brian needs his.

Not sure what you're laughing at.

Have you been to London lately, and seen for yourself?

Berlin is about to fall...

This will be the First Islamic State in Europe..

our Governments are betraying us...

Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN...

then we'd have seen here, as in the video above...

we dodged a bullet... for now/...

but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us...

im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future..

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 8:34pm:

Berlin is about to fall... This will be the First Islamic State in Europe.. our Governments are betraying us... Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN... then we'd have seen here, as in the video above... we dodged a bullet... for now/... but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us... im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future..

Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out.

Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 8:34pm:

Berlin is about to fall...

Quote:

2018 About 60% of Berlin's population have no registered religious affiliation. Thus the city is often called the atheist capital of Europe. Large religious denominations in Berlin include Protestants (19%), Roman Catholics (9%), Muslims (8%), other Christian denominations (2.5%) and other religions (1%) http://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/berlin-population/

8% of the population will cause Berlin to "fall" ?

What a JOKE !

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 9:08pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm: Berlin is about to fall... This will be the First Islamic State in Europe.. our Governments are betraying us... Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN... then we'd have seen here, as in the video above... we dodged a bullet... for now/... but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us... im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future.. Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out. Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe.

Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society.

Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference.

These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:41pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:41pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:23am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 10:11pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   ::) ::) So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input. People will obey Sh'riah law if they want, no matter what the British legal system claims, Caveman, just as Jews will obey Rabbinical courts and Catholics their own courts.   As long as both parties agree what ever settlement reached is OK and that the court is fair, they'll do what they want. Quote: How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  ;) Why bother?  It is an Islamophobic post made by an Islamophobic poster.   What happens in the UK concerns the UK.  The UK is a secular society, not a Christian one.   Something which appears to have escaped the writer of the article for some obscure reason...   ::) [quote] People are worried, and rightly so. People are worried because they fear the unknown.  Few people have ever encountered a Muslim, let alone discussed their religion with one.  People generally fear the "other", the "unknown" and Islam and Muslims are the current bogeymen because the media and the politicians have played it as one.   Everything claimed about Muslims has been claimed about, downunder, the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Germans, the English, the Indochinese, the Chinese, the Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.   All have been proven false for those immigrant groups.  I do not doubt everything claimed about Muslims will prove to be just as false. In 20-30 years time our children will learn with surprise that their Muslim mates were once feared. Tsk, tsk.   ::) For all your pseudo-intellectual waffle you really must have your head up your jacksie. "What happens in the UK concerns the UK?" And you don't think that what happens there isn't happening here? Like everything else we're just that little bit behind ey. And you don't have any global awareness of the effects of the mass migration of so called refugees across Europe? You need a labrador & a white cane.

The UK is this silly little nation in Europe, Gnads.  Australia is the Pacific, straddling the connection to the Indian ocean.  We are a large continent.   What happens in the UK stays in the UK, no matter what you might claim.   Time you learned the difference between the two nations, methinks.   ::) ::)[/quote]

It's not just the UK. And your waffle above proves my point.

Australia is going down the same path.

Geographic location & size of the continent is irrelevant.

I recommend Black Hawk or Advance Dogs foods for your Labrador.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 11:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:08pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm: Berlin is about to fall... This will be the First Islamic State in Europe.. our Governments are betraying us... Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN... then we'd have seen here, as in the video above... we dodged a bullet... for now/... but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us... im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future.. Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out. Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe. Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society. Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference. These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out.

Have you ever had someone (on a bicycle) knock on your front door on a Sunday morning, offering you free magazines and pamphlets which promote their religion?

Have you ever seen people in the city streets, with their little kids in tow, handing out religious pamphlets and encouraging passers by to join their religion?

I'm sure you have.

Now, were they Christians, or were they Muslims?

I'm curious.


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Valkie wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 5:30pm:

That's London done for me. I'll never go there again Unless the English wake up to themselves and drive the animals out of England.

You'll never go anywhere again, Matty.

You'll stay here, no?

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 6:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:30pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:41pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:41pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:23am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 10:11pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   ::) ::) So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input. People will obey Sh'riah law if they want, no matter what the British legal system claims, Caveman, just as Jews will obey Rabbinical courts and Catholics their own courts.   As long as both parties agree what ever settlement reached is OK and that the court is fair, they'll do what they want. Quote: How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  ;) Why bother?  It is an Islamophobic post made by an Islamophobic poster.   What happens in the UK concerns the UK.  The UK is a secular society, not a Christian one.   Something which appears to have escaped the writer of the article for some obscure reason...   ::) [quote] People are worried, and rightly so. People are worried because they fear the unknown.  Few people have ever encountered a Muslim, let alone discussed their religion with one.  People generally fear the "other", the "unknown" and Islam and Muslims are the current bogeymen because the media and the politicians have played it as one.   Everything claimed about Muslims has been claimed about, downunder, the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Germans, the English, the Indochinese, the Chinese, the Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.   All have been proven false for those immigrant groups.  I do not doubt everything claimed about Muslims will prove to be just as false. In 20-30 years time our children will learn with surprise that their Muslim mates were once feared. Tsk, tsk.   ::) For all your pseudo-intellectual waffle you really must have your head up your jacksie. "What happens in the UK concerns the UK?" And you don't think that what happens there isn't happening here? Like everything else we're just that little bit behind ey. And you don't have any global awareness of the effects of the mass migration of so called refugees across Europe? You need a labrador & a white cane. The UK is this silly little nation in Europe, Gnads.  Australia is the Pacific, straddling the connection to the Indian ocean.  We are a large continent.   What happens in the UK stays in the UK, no matter what you might claim.   Time you learned the difference between the two nations, methinks.   ::) ::)

Heritage means a lot to many people Brian. many Australian people have countless ancestors that come from the UK.[/quote]

I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You?

Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either.

What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage?

We grew here.

Are any of these new Mosques being built in Manchester to honour the teenage girls who were targeted and slaughtered by Muslims.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 7:47am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 11:56pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:08pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm: Berlin is about to fall... This will be the First Islamic State in Europe.. our Governments are betraying us... Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN... then we'd have seen here, as in the video above... we dodged a bullet... for now/... but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us... im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future.. Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out. Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe. Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society. Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference. These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out. Have you ever had someone (on a bicycle) knock on your front door on a Sunday morning, offering you free magazines and pamphlets which promote their religion? Have you ever seen people in the city streets, with their little kids in tow, handing out religious pamphlets and encouraging passers by to join their religion? I'm sure you have. Now, were they Christians, or were they Muslims? I'm curious. https://activerain-store.s3.amazonaws.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/9/9/2/ar126366107329955.jpg

The odd preacher in those sects doesn't stand up and say that Australia should become a XXXX nation and society  or those who don't should be beheaded or deported... and handing out pamphlets is hardly a demand that you convert or be punished, is it?

There's a subtle difference there.... these Christian sects hand out pamphlets - Mussos hold up placards...

https://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-2.jpg

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 8:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:47am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 11:56pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:08pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm: Berlin is about to fall... This will be the First Islamic State in Europe.. our Governments are betraying us... Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN... then we'd have seen here, as in the video above... we dodged a bullet... for now/... but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us... im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future.. Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out. Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe. Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society. Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference. These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out. Have you ever had someone (on a bicycle) knock on your front door on a Sunday morning, offering you free magazines and pamphlets which promote their religion? Have you ever seen people in the city streets, with their little kids in tow, handing out religious pamphlets and encouraging passers by to join their religion? I'm sure you have. Now, were they Christians, or were they Muslims? I'm curious. https://activerain-store.s3.amazonaws.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/9/9/2/ar126366107329955.jpg The odd preacher in those sects doesn't stand up and say that Australia should become a XXXX nation and society  or those who don't should be beheaded or deported... and handing out pamphlets is hardly a demand that you convert or be punished, is it? There's a subtle difference there.... these Christian sects hand out pamphlets - Mussos hold up placards... https://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-2.jpg

I didn't quite get your answer.

The ones coming onto your property, uninvited, and knocking on your front door: were they Christians, or were they Muslims?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:47am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 11:56pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:08pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm: Berlin is about to fall... This will be the First Islamic State in Europe.. our Governments are betraying us... Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN... then we'd have seen here, as in the video above... we dodged a bullet... for now/... but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us... im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future.. Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out. Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe. Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society. Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference. These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out. Have you ever had someone (on a bicycle) knock on your front door on a Sunday morning, offering you free magazines and pamphlets which promote their religion? Have you ever seen people in the city streets, with their little kids in tow, handing out religious pamphlets and encouraging passers by to join their religion? I'm sure you have. Now, were they Christians, or were they Muslims? I'm curious. https://activerain-store.s3.amazonaws.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/9/9/2/ar126366107329955.jpg The odd preacher in those sects doesn't stand up and say that Australia should become a XXXX nation and society  or those who don't should be beheaded or deported... and handing out pamphlets is hardly a demand that you convert or be punished, is it? There's a subtle difference there.... these Christian sects hand out pamphlets - Mussos hold up placards... https://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-2.jpg I didn't quite get your answer. The ones coming onto your property, uninvited, and knocking on your front door: were they Christians, or were they Muslims?

They're not demanding, Grigor, as you well know.... you old Issueophobe, you...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 11:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:35am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:47am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 11:56pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:08pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm: Berlin is about to fall... This will be the First Islamic State in Europe.. our Governments are betraying us... Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN... then we'd have seen here, as in the video above... we dodged a bullet... for now/... but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us... im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future.. Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out. Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe. Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society. Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference. These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out. Have you ever had someone (on a bicycle) knock on your front door on a Sunday morning, offering you free magazines and pamphlets which promote their religion? Have you ever seen people in the city streets, with their little kids in tow, handing out religious pamphlets and encouraging passers by to join their religion? I'm sure you have. Now, were they Christians, or were they Muslims? I'm curious. https://activerain-store.s3.amazonaws.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/9/9/2/ar126366107329955.jpg The odd preacher in those sects doesn't stand up and say that Australia should become a XXXX nation and society  or those who don't should be beheaded or deported... and handing out pamphlets is hardly a demand that you convert or be punished, is it? There's a subtle difference there.... these Christian sects hand out pamphlets - Mussos hold up placards... https://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-2.jpg I didn't quite get your answer. The ones coming onto your property, uninvited, and knocking on your front door: were they Christians, or were they Muslims? They're not demanding, Grigor, as you well know.... you old Issueophobe, you...

Have you ever had a Muslim knock on your door, with children in tow, informing you about their religion?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 12:49pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 11:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:35am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:47am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 11:56pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:08pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm: Berlin is about to fall... This will be the First Islamic State in Europe.. our Governments are betraying us... Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN... then we'd have seen here, as in the video above... we dodged a bullet... for now/... but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us... im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future.. Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out. Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe. Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society. Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference. These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out. Have you ever had someone (on a bicycle) knock on your front door on a Sunday morning, offering you free magazines and pamphlets which promote their religion? Have you ever seen people in the city streets, with their little kids in tow, handing out religious pamphlets and encouraging passers by to join their religion? I'm sure you have. Now, were they Christians, or were they Muslims? I'm curious. https://activerain-store.s3.amazonaws.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/9/9/2/ar126366107329955.jpg The odd preacher in those sects doesn't stand up and say that Australia should become a XXXX nation and society  or those who don't should be beheaded or deported... and handing out pamphlets is hardly a demand that you convert or be punished, is it? There's a subtle difference there.... these Christian sects hand out pamphlets - Mussos hold up placards... https://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-2.jpg I didn't quite get your answer. The ones coming onto your property, uninvited, and knocking on your front door: were they Christians, or were they Muslims? They're not demanding, Grigor, as you well know.... you old Issueophobe, you... Have you ever had a Muslim knock on your door, with children in tow, informing you about their religion?

Have you ever had a Seven Dayer preacher state on TV that Australia should become a Seven Dayer nation or those who dissent should be executed or deported?

The door knockers are just trying to sell their brand, not demand it.  Stop twisting the words...
Sometimes your arguments have some value, Grigor - this is just desperate clutching at a straw...

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16^th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

I was in London last month. I can tell you this, I see more Muslims in a day here in Vic Park than I saw in a day in London. And Vic Park is a great place to live.

sleepers.........................................

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 12:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:49pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 11:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:35am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:47am: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 11:56pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:08pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:34pm: Berlin is about to fall... This will be the First Islamic State in Europe.. our Governments are betraying us... Turnbull was about to hand over our immigration policy to the UN... then we'd have seen here, as in the video above... we dodged a bullet... for now/... but if the Labor/Greens government get into power then God Help us... im not sure where SCOMO is taking us yet but I will be putting Greens, Labor, Liberal down the bottom of every voting card I fill out in the future.. Maybe they could build a wall to keep the Muslims out. Get the Mexicans to pay for it, maybe. Good thought, Greg - but far easier to establish a Devil's Island and export the undesirables..... provisional citizenship for ten years - play up and you're out ... born here nutters can go to Devil's Island and be re-educated to conform to the code of THIS society. Nobody is demanding that they abandon their religion and such - but that they stop demanding that others conform to their religion and such .. that's the difference. These small-minded, provincial, radical Muslims who demand the nation become Islamic are acting like sheilas - demand, demand, demand and then cry victim when called out. Have you ever had someone (on a bicycle) knock on your front door on a Sunday morning, offering you free magazines and pamphlets which promote their religion? Have you ever seen people in the city streets, with their little kids in tow, handing out religious pamphlets and encouraging passers by to join their religion? I'm sure you have. Now, were they Christians, or were they Muslims? I'm curious. https://activerain-store.s3.amazonaws.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/9/9/2/ar126366107329955.jpg The odd preacher in those sects doesn't stand up and say that Australia should become a XXXX nation and society  or those who don't should be beheaded or deported... and handing out pamphlets is hardly a demand that you convert or be punished, is it? There's a subtle difference there.... these Christian sects hand out pamphlets - Mussos hold up placards... https://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/london-muslim-protest-2.jpg I didn't quite get your answer. The ones coming onto your property, uninvited, and knocking on your front door: were they Christians, or were they Muslims? They're not demanding, Grigor, as you well know.... you old Issueophobe, you... Have you ever had a Muslim knock on your door, with children in tow, informing you about their religion? Have you ever had a Seven Dayer preacher state on TV that Australia should become a Seven Dayer nation or those who dissent should be executed or deported? The door knockers are just trying to sell their brand, not demand it.  Stop twisting the words... Sometimes your arguments have some value, Grigor - this is just desperate clutching at a straw...

So, that's a 'no'?

Karnal wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 8:02am:

I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here.

If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory...

Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 12:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries...

As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims.

Have you been there lately, to see for yourself?

It's nothing like "they" say it is.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is.

Same with Paris.

I was approached by four criminal con-artists while I was there, and they were all young, white, French girls.

Gnads wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 7:17am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:30pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:41pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:41pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:23am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 10:11pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   ::) ::) So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input. People will obey Sh'riah law if they want, no matter what the British legal system claims, Caveman, just as Jews will obey Rabbinical courts and Catholics their own courts.   As long as both parties agree what ever settlement reached is OK and that the court is fair, they'll do what they want. Quote: How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  ;) Why bother?  It is an Islamophobic post made by an Islamophobic poster.   What happens in the UK concerns the UK.  The UK is a secular society, not a Christian one.   Something which appears to have escaped the writer of the article for some obscure reason...   ::) [quote] People are worried, and rightly so. People are worried because they fear the unknown.  Few people have ever encountered a Muslim, let alone discussed their religion with one.  People generally fear the "other", the "unknown" and Islam and Muslims are the current bogeymen because the media and the politicians have played it as one.   Everything claimed about Muslims has been claimed about, downunder, the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Germans, the English, the Indochinese, the Chinese, the Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.   All have been proven false for those immigrant groups.  I do not doubt everything claimed about Muslims will prove to be just as false. In 20-30 years time our children will learn with surprise that their Muslim mates were once feared. Tsk, tsk.   ::) For all your pseudo-intellectual waffle you really must have your head up your jacksie. "What happens in the UK concerns the UK?" And you don't think that what happens there isn't happening here? Like everything else we're just that little bit behind ey. And you don't have any global awareness of the effects of the mass migration of so called refugees across Europe? You need a labrador & a white cane. The UK is this silly little nation in Europe, Gnads.  Australia is the Pacific, straddling the connection to the Indian ocean.  We are a large continent.   What happens in the UK stays in the UK, no matter what you might claim.   Time you learned the difference between the two nations, methinks.   ::) ::)

It's not just the UK. And your waffle above proves my point.

Australia is going down the same path.

Geographic location & size of the continent is irrelevant.

I recommend Black Hawk or Advance Dogs foods for your Labrador.
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The Australian Muslim population consists of 2-3% of the total Australian population.

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that 2-3% will outbreed the other 97-98% of the population?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that Muslim migration could approach the levels necessary to overcome the other 97-98% of the population?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that the Australian population is so frightened they would vote in sufficient Muslim politicians that they could take control of the Australian Government?  Really?

Grow up, Gnads, Australia is not the UK.  What happens in the UK, concerns the UK.  Australia is a sovereign, independent nation.  We have long ceased to be a colony, we have long ceased to be a self-governing Dominion.  Australia is controlled by Australians.  QED.   ::) ::) ::)

In 20 -30 years time Muslim integration may likely be fine..or it may not.

Young Muslims in the UK currently feel besieged and that same sentiment can be found in a percentage of the Australian Muslim demographic due to the actions of Islamic terrorist.

They feel like the west hates them.

There is a sense of tiring familiarity unfolding with terrorism. A catastrophe averted, a crisis remains like a dark cloud.

Terrorism  gives justification for the far right groups to espouse their hate....and on it goes round and round until the issue of radicalisation is addressed.

An extreme Islamic ideology of Jihad has been around for eons, the view society has been corrupted and needs to return to fundamental religiosity, a belief which is not just held by ISIS or the Taliban etc its a fundamental belief for devout followers.

Which will mean the battle against terror will carry on for years unless that issue is addressed by Islamic leaders (good luck getting a religious consensus on that) or Muslim youth who cannot feel like they have integrated compatibly with being Muslim and the west can or will be enticed into extreme actions.

To solve for an integration future will take a concerned effort on peoples attitudes towards Muslims, to be more accepting, more so than any other immigrant demographic, because of the vulnerability of Muslim youth to extremist ideologue.

The far right do not help who are by their efforts are isolating a percentage of the Muslim people, while not necessarily religious people will culturally think themselves Muslims and feeling alienated enough into taking up violent acts with religious salvation.

Muslims need also to culturally compromise to integrate as well...less of the identifying conservative clothing and accept the west warts and all rather than isolate themselves from the west hiding behind niqabs, shrouds and fundamentalist regalia.

Such as it goes one doesn't feel optimistic that all Muslims will integrate as well as others and that dark cloud remains for the children.

Then the biggest dark cloud overhanging the children is climate change.


 

I don't think you needed to go any further than that bit about terrorism makes some young Muslims feel 'besieged'... they're not alone in that, BTW - and references to extreme right wing groups etc has no foundation here... those - like trannies, are so minor that nobody every hears or cares about them.

Discussion of concerns and potential solutions to the problems of terrorism is NOT 'extreme right wing' - it is normal for normal people to be concerned, especially when 'young Muslims' kill people outside police HQ to 'make a statement' about some deluded Islamist idea, or a Muslim drills a cafe manager and leads to the death of an innocent, or a group of rabid Muslims rally and hold up placards threatening killing and worse for people they don't even know, and the news is filled with Muslims carrying out multiple death attacks on innocent bystanders in Europe and so forth.

Musselman - heal thyself!  First rip the log from thine own eye before you rave about the splinter in the eye of another.....

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 2:53pm:

The Australian Muslim population consists of 2-3% of the total Australian population. Do you SERIOUSLY believe that 2-3% will outbreed the other 97-98% of the population? Do you SERIOUSLY believe that Muslim migration could approach the levels necessary to overcome the other 97-98% of the population? Do you SERIOUSLY believe that the Australian population is so frightened they would vote in sufficient Muslim politicians that they could take control of the Australian Government?  Really? Grow up, Gnads, Australia is not the UK.  What happens in the UK, concerns the UK.  Australia is a sovereign, independent nation.  We have long ceased to be a colony, we have long ceased to be a self-governing Dominion.  Australia is controlled by Australians.  QED.   ::) ::) ::)

Then I'm so happy to see we're all on the same page then - we halt Muslim immigration at its present level and begin the tortuous and arduous path to integration... first step - stop the prevention of beautiful young Muslim women being married to non-Muslims of their choice ...... send the mullahs to sensitivity training with other religious people and to comparative religion courses so they truly understand what the others are about .... hold a few rallies of moderates who burn the 'behead the infidel' signs and such... maybe even allow some Muslim allies to march on ANZAC Day as everyone else gets to do...

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 2:53pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 7:17am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:30pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:41pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:41pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 4:23am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 10:11pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Looks like another thread devoted to Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk, what a complete WAFTM you have become Mechie.   ::) ::) So you support sharia courts then? You seem to have no input. People will obey Sh'riah law if they want, no matter what the British legal system claims, Caveman, just as Jews will obey Rabbinical courts and Catholics their own courts.   As long as both parties agree what ever settlement reached is OK and that the court is fair, they'll do what they want. Quote: How about you counter the post instead of screaming islamaphobe racist bigot whatever because not dping so makes you look like a supporter.  ;) Why bother?  It is an Islamophobic post made by an Islamophobic poster.   What happens in the UK concerns the UK.  The UK is a secular society, not a Christian one.   Something which appears to have escaped the writer of the article for some obscure reason...   ::) [quote] People are worried, and rightly so. People are worried because they fear the unknown.  Few people have ever encountered a Muslim, let alone discussed their religion with one.  People generally fear the "other", the "unknown" and Islam and Muslims are the current bogeymen because the media and the politicians have played it as one.   Everything claimed about Muslims has been claimed about, downunder, the Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Germans, the English, the Indochinese, the Chinese, the Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.   All have been proven false for those immigrant groups.  I do not doubt everything claimed about Muslims will prove to be just as false. In 20-30 years time our children will learn with surprise that their Muslim mates were once feared. Tsk, tsk.   ::) For all your pseudo-intellectual waffle you really must have your head up your jacksie. "What happens in the UK concerns the UK?" And you don't think that what happens there isn't happening here? Like everything else we're just that little bit behind ey. And you don't have any global awareness of the effects of the mass migration of so called refugees across Europe? You need a labrador & a white cane. The UK is this silly little nation in Europe, Gnads.  Australia is the Pacific, straddling the connection to the Indian ocean.  We are a large continent.   What happens in the UK stays in the UK, no matter what you might claim.   Time you learned the difference between the two nations, methinks.   ::) ::) It's not just the UK. And your waffle above proves my point. Australia is going down the same path. Geographic location & size of the continent is irrelevant. I recommend Black Hawk or Advance Dogs foods for your Labrador.

The Australian Muslim population consists of 2-3% of the total Australian population.

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that 2-3% will outbreed the other 97-98% of the population?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that Muslim migration could approach the levels necessary to overcome the other 97-98% of the population?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that the Australian population is so frightened they would vote in sufficient Muslim politicians that they could take control of the Australian Government?  Really?

Grow up, Gnads, Australia is not the UK.  What happens in the UK, concerns the UK.  Australia is a sovereign, independent nation.  We have long ceased to be a colony, we have long ceased to be a self-governing Dominion.  Australia is controlled by Australians.  QED.   ::) ::) ::)

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Waffle waffle waffle ... as repetitious as Peccar.

Don't forget to give your Labrador his heart worm, flea, round worm & tick medication.

Pedro Curevo wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 4:01pm:

In 20 -30 years time Muslim integration may likely be fine..or it may not. Young Muslims in the UK currently feel besieged and that same sentiment can be found in a percentage of the Australian Muslim demographic due to the actions of Islamic terrorist. They feel like the west hates them. There is a sense of tiring familiarity unfolding with terrorism. A catastrophe averted, a crisis remains like a dark cloud. Terrorism  gives justification for the far right groups to espouse their hate....and on it goes round and round until the issue of radicalisation is addressed. An extreme Islamic ideology of Jihad has been around for eons, the view society has been corrupted and needs to return to fundamental religiosity, a belief which is not just held by ISIS or the Taliban etc its a fundamental belief for devout followers. Which will mean the battle against terror will carry on for years unless that issue is addressed by Islamic leaders (good luck getting a religious consensus on that) or Muslim youth who cannot feel like they have integrated compatibly with being Muslim and the west can or will be enticed into extreme actions. To solve for an integration future will take a concerned effort on peoples attitudes towards Muslims, to be more accepting, more so than any other immigrant demographic, because of the vulnerability of Muslim youth to extremist ideologue. The far right do not help who are by their efforts are isolating a percentage of the Muslim people, while not necessarily religious people will culturally think themselves Muslims and feeling alienated enough into taking up violent acts with religious salvation. Muslims need also to culturally compromise to integrate as well...less of the identifying conservative clothing and accept the west warts and all rather than isolate themselves from the west hiding behind niqabs, shrouds and fundamentalist regalia. Such as it goes one doesn't feel optimistic that all Muslims will integrate as well as others and that dark cloud remains for the children. Then the biggest dark cloud overhanging the children is climate change.

;D No their indoctrinators hate the west & pass that onto the youth even though they live in the west.

They perpetually play the victim card.

Then you go & stuff up your post by throwing in "climate change".  ::)

Lets just get the terminology right here people

islam is a CULT not a religion.

It fits every definition of a CULT to the letter
Its followers are terrified to leave, as with all CULTS.

Please refer to this CULT of DEAT as it truely is........A CULT OF DEATH

Pedro Curevo wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 4:01pm:

In 20 -30 years time Muslim integration may likely be fine..or it may not. Young Muslims in the UK currently feel besieged and that same sentiment can be found in a percentage of the Australian Muslim demographic due to the actions of Islamic terrorist. They feel like the west hates them. There is a sense of tiring familiarity unfolding with terrorism. A catastrophe averted, a crisis remains like a dark cloud. Terrorism  gives justification for the far right groups to espouse their hate....and on it goes round and round until the issue of radicalisation is addressed. An extreme Islamic ideology of Jihad has been around for eons, the view society has been corrupted and needs to return to fundamental religiosity, a belief which is not just held by ISIS or the Taliban etc its a fundamental belief for devout followers. Which will mean the battle against terror will carry on for years unless that issue is addressed by Islamic leaders (good luck getting a religious consensus on that) or Muslim youth who cannot feel like they have integrated compatibly with being Muslim and the west can or will be enticed into extreme actions. To solve for an integration future will take a concerned effort on peoples attitudes towards Muslims, to be more accepting, more so than any other immigrant demographic, because of the vulnerability of Muslim youth to extremist ideologue. The far right do not help who are by their efforts are isolating a percentage of the Muslim people, while not necessarily religious people will culturally think themselves Muslims and feeling alienated enough into taking up violent acts with religious salvation. Muslims need also to culturally compromise to integrate as well...less of the identifying conservative clothing and accept the west warts and all rather than isolate themselves from the west hiding behind niqabs, shrouds and fundamentalist regalia. Such as it goes one doesn't feel optimistic that all Muslims will integrate as well as others and that dark cloud remains for the children. Then the biggest dark cloud overhanging the children is climate change.

That's like saying give me your lunch money or I am going to beat you up.
Or,
Be nice to us Muslims or our kids will blow you up when they grow up.
Its a similar line that Turnbull used about a year ago as to why we cant stop Muslim immigration.
They play by our rules or they can bugger off.

SHUT THE GATES and WELD THEM SHUT.

http://www.joydigitalmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/A-Christian-Response-To-Xenophobia-713x509.jpg

NOTHING to see here, folks



A fear-mongering article was based on misleading and cherry-picked data
about the number of churches and mosques in London.




https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/london-closes-500-churches-opens-423-new-mosques/



https://i0.wp.com/www.omanobserver.om/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/fake.png

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is.

Oh look: I was right (again).

"The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced

" — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality."

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality."

Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca.

" — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality."

Exactly what I said   ;)

(The fake news article is about London, not the UK)

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;)

It's a fact that when Muslims monopolise areas the churches become mosques. It even happens here. Losing churches to mosques is actually a factual statement.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;) (The fake news article is about London, not the UK)

Your article states that there  are 300 mosques in the UK. Now that is  poor research. Where did you get that load of crap from?

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:31am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;) (The fake news article is about London, not the UK) Your article states that there  are 300 mosques in the UK. Now that is  poor research. Where did you get that load of crap from?

No it doesn't.

Put your glasses on and read it again.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:37am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:35am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:31am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;) (The fake news article is about London, not the UK) Your article states that there  are 300 mosques in the UK. Now that is  poor research. Where did you get that load of crap from? No it doesn't. Put your glasses on and read it again.

200 purpose built ones. My eyes are going.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:37am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:35am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:31am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;) (The fake news article is about London, not the UK) Your article states that there  are 300 mosques in the UK. Now that is  poor research. Where did you get that load of crap from? No it doesn't. Put your glasses on and read it again. 200 purpose built ones. My eyes are going.

You didn't say purpose built.

You said Mosques.

Here is what the article says:

"There is no definitive figure for how many mosques there are in Britain today, although the best estimate is in the region of 1,500. Of these, approximately 200 are purpose-built, the rest being either converted houses or other non-residential conversions."

Where the hell did you get "300 Mosques" from?

"Bierley predicts that there will be 40,080 churches in England by 2020."

Go visit London for yourself, Hammer - it's nothing like the Islamophobes say it is.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:39am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:37am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:35am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:31am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;) (The fake news article is about London, not the UK) Your article states that there  are 300 mosques in the UK. Now that is  poor research. Where did you get that load of crap from? No it doesn't. Put your glasses on and read it again. 200 purpose built ones. My eyes are going. You didn't say purpose built. You said Mosques. Here is what the article says: "There is no definitive figure for how many mosques there are in Britain today, although the best estimate is in the region of 1,500. Of these, approximately 200 are purpose-built, the rest being either converted houses or other non-residential conversions." Where the hell did you get "300 Mosques" from?

I misread it muppet. It's a honest mistake. Get over it. You win. It doesn't deter from the fact that Islam is transforming the social fabric of the UK and people are pissed off about it. Maybe you lefties should have thought about it before you went and did it. Now Britain is facing a future conflict along the lines of Northern Ireland. Bombs will start going off. It's just a matter of time.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:39am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:37am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:35am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:31am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;) (The fake news article is about London, not the UK) Your article states that there  are 300 mosques in the UK. Now that is  poor research. Where did you get that load of crap from? No it doesn't. Put your glasses on and read it again. 200 purpose built ones. My eyes are going. You didn't say purpose built. You said Mosques. Here is what the article says: "There is no definitive figure for how many mosques there are in Britain today, although the best estimate is in the region of 1,500. Of these, approximately 200 are purpose-built, the rest being either converted houses or other non-residential conversions." Where the hell did you get "300 Mosques" from? I misread it muppet. It's a honest mistake. Get over it. You win. It doesn't deter from the fact that Islam is transforming the social fabric of the UK and people are pissed off about it. Maybe you lefties should have thought about it before you went and did it. Now Britain is facing a future conflict along the lines of Northern Ireland. Bombs will start going off. It's just a matter of time.

No, it isn't.

I urge you to go visit and see for yourself.

I see more Muslims here in Perth (which doesn't bother me in the slightest) than I saw in London last month.

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:12am:

NOTHING to see here, folks A fear-mongering article was based on misleading and cherry-picked data about the number of churches and mosques in London. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/london-closes-500-churches-opens-423-new-mosques/ https://i0.wp.com/www.omanobserver.om/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/fake.png

Of course it is but the white male needs to live in fear and perpetuate falsehoods in order to cope with it

For Mr Hammer:

https://www.webjet.com.au/flights/london/sydney/

I recommend Emirates.

Go see for yourself - I guarantee you'll be surprised.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:55am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:39am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:37am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:35am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:31am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;) (The fake news article is about London, not the UK) Your article states that there  are 300 mosques in the UK. Now that is  poor research. Where did you get that load of crap from? No it doesn't. Put your glasses on and read it again. 200 purpose built ones. My eyes are going. You didn't say purpose built. You said Mosques. Here is what the article says: "There is no definitive figure for how many mosques there are in Britain today, although the best estimate is in the region of 1,500. Of these, approximately 200 are purpose-built, the rest being either converted houses or other non-residential conversions." Where the hell did you get "300 Mosques" from? I misread it muppet. It's a honest mistake. Get over it. You win. It doesn't deter from the fact that Islam is transforming the social fabric of the UK and people are pissed off about it. Maybe you lefties should have thought about it before you went and did it. Now Britain is facing a future conflict along the lines of Northern Ireland. Bombs will start going off. It's just a matter of time. No, it isn't. I urge you to go visit and see for yourself. I see more Muslims here in Perth (which doesn't bother me in the slightest) than I saw in London last month.

Muslim Guide To WA- Number of Muslims living in WA as of December 2007.
24,200 (1.2%)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 10:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:55am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:39am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:37am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:35am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:31am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;) (The fake news article is about London, not the UK) Your article states that there  are 300 mosques in the UK. Now that is  poor research. Where did you get that load of crap from? No it doesn't. Put your glasses on and read it again. 200 purpose built ones. My eyes are going. You didn't say purpose built. You said Mosques. Here is what the article says: "There is no definitive figure for how many mosques there are in Britain today, although the best estimate is in the region of 1,500. Of these, approximately 200 are purpose-built, the rest being either converted houses or other non-residential conversions." Where the hell did you get "300 Mosques" from? I misread it muppet. It's a honest mistake. Get over it. You win. It doesn't deter from the fact that Islam is transforming the social fabric of the UK and people are pissed off about it. Maybe you lefties should have thought about it before you went and did it. Now Britain is facing a future conflict along the lines of Northern Ireland. Bombs will start going off. It's just a matter of time. No, it isn't. I urge you to go visit and see for yourself. I see more Muslims here in Perth (which doesn't bother me in the slightest) than I saw in London last month. Muslim Guide To WA- Number of Muslims living in WA as of December 2007. 24,200 (1.2%)

2007 - really?

Nice work.

Did you search for that on your Commodore 64?

"According to the 2016 census, the Muslim population numbered 604,235 individuals, of whom 42% live in Greater Sydney, 31% in Greater Melbourne, and 8% in Greater Perth."

You haven't been to Perth, and you haven't been to London - you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I see more Muslims in one day just in my suburb, than I saw in one day in London recently (and dozens more Indians).

Moreover, I don't care that you don't believe me - it's no skin off my nose.

I still urge you to travel, though, so that you can see for yourself what's actually going on in the world.

Watching YouTube clips, or the Channel 7 "News", or reading Yadda's posts on here doesn't give you a true picture of what' the world is really like.

I hadn't been to London for many years, and I was expecting it to be quite different.

I was genuinely surprised when I went back last month - there were pale white pommies everywhere.

It's nothing like the Islamophobes describe - I can guarantee you.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 10:53am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 10:40am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:55am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:39am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:38am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:37am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:35am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:31am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;) (The fake news article is about London, not the UK) Your article states that there  are 300 mosques in the UK. Now that is  poor research. Where did you get that load of crap from? No it doesn't. Put your glasses on and read it again. 200 purpose built ones. My eyes are going. You didn't say purpose built. You said Mosques. Here is what the article says: "There is no definitive figure for how many mosques there are in Britain today, although the best estimate is in the region of 1,500. Of these, approximately 200 are purpose-built, the rest being either converted houses or other non-residential conversions." Where the hell did you get "300 Mosques" from? I misread it muppet. It's a honest mistake. Get over it. You win. It doesn't deter from the fact that Islam is transforming the social fabric of the UK and people are pissed off about it. Maybe you lefties should have thought about it before you went and did it. Now Britain is facing a future conflict along the lines of Northern Ireland. Bombs will start going off. It's just a matter of time. No, it isn't. I urge you to go visit and see for yourself. I see more Muslims here in Perth (which doesn't bother me in the slightest) than I saw in London last month. Muslim Guide To WA- Number of Muslims living in WA as of December 2007. 24,200 (1.2%)  2007 - really? Nice work. Did you search for that on your Commodore 64? "According to the 2016 census, the Muslim population numbered 604,235 individuals, of whom 42% live in Greater Sydney, 31% in Greater Melbourne, and 8% in Greater Perth." You haven't been to Perth, and you haven't been to London - you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I see more Muslims in one day just in my suburb, than I saw in one day in London recently (and dozens more Indians). Moreover, I don't care that you don't believe me - it's no skin off my nose. I still urge you to travel, though, so that you can see for yourself what's actually going on in the world. Watching YouTube clips, or the Channel 7 "News", or reading Yadda's posts on here doesn't give you a true picture of what' the world is really like. I hadn't been to London for many years, and I was expecting it to be quite different. I was genuinely surprised when I went back last month - there were pale white pommies everywhere. It's nothing like the Islamophobes describe - I can guarantee you.

roughly 48,000 in a capital city??? ;D ;D ;D ;D It's a wonder you ever see any.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 6:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 2:53pm: The Australian Muslim population consists of 2-3% of the total Australian population. Do you SERIOUSLY believe that 2-3% will outbreed the other 97-98% of the population? Do you SERIOUSLY believe that Muslim migration could approach the levels necessary to overcome the other 97-98% of the population? Do you SERIOUSLY believe that the Australian population is so frightened they would vote in sufficient Muslim politicians that they could take control of the Australian Government?  Really? Grow up, Gnads, Australia is not the UK.  What happens in the UK, concerns the UK.  Australia is a sovereign, independent nation.  We have long ceased to be a colony, we have long ceased to be a self-governing Dominion.  Australia is controlled by Australians.  QED.   ::) ::) ::) Then I'm so happy to see we're all on the same page then - we halt Muslim immigration at its present level and begin the tortuous and arduous path to integration... first step - stop the prevention of beautiful young Muslim women being married to non-Muslims of their choice ...... send the mullahs to sensitivity training with other religious people and to comparative religion courses so they truly understand what the others are about .... hold a few rallies of moderates who burn the 'behead the infidel' signs and such... maybe even allow some Muslim allies to march on ANZAC Day as everyone else gets to do...

No, we are not "on the same page", Graps.

You are attempting to paint the overwhelming majority of Muslims as representing the views of a minority of conservative Muslims or Islamists.  They do not.   They are ordinary, everyday people who are going about their business, they just believe in a different god to you, that is all.

Australia's Muslim immigration rate is a small minority compared to the total rate of migration.   They are a minority, a small, minority of the total population and will remain a small minority.   Many have come here, like most migrants, seeking a safe place where they and their children can prosper, where they can live in religious freedom, safe from the loonies they have encountered overseas in their old homelands.   They deserve better treatment than they are receiving from Islamophobic bigots, Graps.   Much better.    ::) ::)

Gnads wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 4:46am:

Waffle waffle waffle ... as repetitious as Peccar. Don't forget to give your Labrador his heart worm, flea, round worm & tick medication.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Appears you don't like reading about the truth, do you, Gnads?  You prefer your fantasy world, where the great big bogey Muslim people are all just out to get you, right?  Yeah, sure, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where your sort of fantasies are tolerated with all your little kiddy friends.  You know, the Racists, the Islamophobes and the Bigots.  Tsk, tsk.   25 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Indochinese.  50 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Italians and the Greeks and the Yugoslavs.  80 years ago, you've have been railing against the Catholics and the Jews.   You never learn, do you?   Fool.   ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 2:02pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 6:26pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 2:53pm: The Australian Muslim population consists of 2-3% of the total Australian population. Do you SERIOUSLY believe that 2-3% will outbreed the other 97-98% of the population? Do you SERIOUSLY believe that Muslim migration could approach the levels necessary to overcome the other 97-98% of the population? Do you SERIOUSLY believe that the Australian population is so frightened they would vote in sufficient Muslim politicians that they could take control of the Australian Government?  Really? Grow up, Gnads, Australia is not the UK.  What happens in the UK, concerns the UK.  Australia is a sovereign, independent nation.  We have long ceased to be a colony, we have long ceased to be a self-governing Dominion.  Australia is controlled by Australians.  QED.   ::) ::) ::) Then I'm so happy to see we're all on the same page then - we halt Muslim immigration at its present level and begin the tortuous and arduous path to integration... first step - stop the prevention of beautiful young Muslim women being married to non-Muslims of their choice ...... send the mullahs to sensitivity training with other religious people and to comparative religion courses so they truly understand what the others are about .... hold a few rallies of moderates who burn the 'behead the infidel' signs and such... maybe even allow some Muslim allies to march on ANZAC Day as everyone else gets to do... No, we are not "on the same page", Graps. You are attempting to paint the overwhelming majority of Muslims as representing the views of a minority of conservative Muslims or Islamists.  They do not.   They are ordinary, everyday people who are going about their business, they just believe in a different god to you, that is all. Australia's Muslim immigration rate is a small minority compared to the total rate of migration.   They are a minority, a small, minority of the total population and will remain a small minority.   Many have come here, like most migrants, seeking a safe place where they and their children can prosper, where they can live in religious freedom, safe from the loonies they have encountered overseas in their old homelands.   They deserve better treatment than they are receiving from Islamophobic bigots, Graps.   Much better.    ::) ::)

Not at all - I'm merely pointing out that if only one in twenty or twenty-five is a terrorist or a terrorist supporter or advocate or facilitator - the easiest thing is to not fill the swamp any deeper than it already is until it is cleared of the filth, the leeches and the alligators.

I'm not trying to paint all Muslims as anything... they do have religious freedom, the right to vote, stand for election to public office, right of peaceful assembly (and some), are not restricted from educational opportunities or jobs, are not restricted from any profession, are not tattooed and/or forced to wear insignia specifying their Untermenschen status, and the right not to be forced into marriage (if they are allowed it - think about it), no gangs of others go around attacking and threatening them without cause, and so on and so forth .... but please ... do go on...

Anyone who behaves has always been welcome here... and a few who don't....

Hahaha, *ponders the probative value of self serving anecdotes from a demonstrated liar*

I don't have a problem with a Mosque in the neighborhood, provided they keep the "call to pray" down to a few less decibels and perhaps just send a text or something to remind the MEN to come and pray. 

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 4:15pm:

Not at all - I'm merely pointing out that if only one in twenty or twenty-five is a terrorist or a terrorist supporter or advocate or facilitator - the easiest thing is to not fill the swamp any deeper than it already is until it is cleared of the filth, the leeches and the alligators. I'm not trying to paint all Muslims as anything... they do have religious freedom, the right to vote, stand for election to public office, right of peaceful assembly (and some), are not restricted from educational opportunities or jobs, are not restricted from any profession, are not tattooed and/or forced to wear insignia specifying their Untermenschen status, and the right not to be forced into marriage (if they are allowed it - think about it), no gangs of others go around attacking and threatening them without cause, and so on and so forth .... but please ... do go on... Anyone who behaves has always been welcome here... and a few who don't....

Thanks for glarifying your position, Graps.  That is NOT the impression I have received from your (pointless) ranting on here in many threads.  Perhaps you need to adopt a single position and stick to it, including the idea of fairness and natural justice?  It might make things easier?   ::)

It appears we are not that far apart, afterall.  Keep out the bad ones and let in the good ones.  The problem is, as always telling the two apart.   Something the Islamophobes don't want to do, they prefer just to lump all Muslims together, in the bad bunch.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 5:44pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:15pm: Not at all - I'm merely pointing out that if only one in twenty or twenty-five is a terrorist or a terrorist supporter or advocate or facilitator - the easiest thing is to not fill the swamp any deeper than it already is until it is cleared of the filth, the leeches and the alligators. I'm not trying to paint all Muslims as anything... they do have religious freedom, the right to vote, stand for election to public office, right of peaceful assembly (and some), are not restricted from educational opportunities or jobs, are not restricted from any profession, are not tattooed and/or forced to wear insignia specifying their Untermenschen status, and the right not to be forced into marriage (if they are allowed it - think about it), no gangs of others go around attacking and threatening them without cause, and so on and so forth .... but please ... do go on... Anyone who behaves has always been welcome here... and a few who don't.... Thanks for glarifying your position, Graps.  That is NOT the impression I have received from your (pointless) ranting on here in many threads.  Perhaps you need to adopt a single position and stick to it, including the idea of fairness and natural justice?  It might make things easier?   ::) It appears we are not that far apart, afterall.  Keep out the bad ones and let in the good ones.  The problem is, as always telling the two apart.   Something the Islamophobes don't want to do, they prefer just to lump all Muslims together, in the bad bunch.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

I just like poking a stick at the Islamophiles, Abophiles, Homophiles (who said that?) etc and the apologists when they play up..... sometimes they come up with such garbage that I can't resist.... it's me nature, as the scorpion said to the frog...

They say something silly or throw baseless accusations around, and I let them stew over an extreme negative response... works wonders for their state of mind and ulcers... though as I said about Aussie - nothing is relevant really since he is an avatar online... as are we all....

You can't tell by the slant of an immigrant's eyes if he/she is a good one or a bad one..... and there are no marks on their foreheads.... no tattoos that say "Potential Terrorist Class 1" ... "Radicalised And Loving It!"... "Semper Infidelkill" on a shield with sword .... "Allahborne Special Farces"...... "75th Strangers" ..... you know the drift....

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 2:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:46am: Waffle waffle waffle ... as repetitious as Peccar. Don't forget to give your Labrador his heart worm, flea, round worm & tick medication. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Appears you don't like reading about the truth, do you, Gnads?  You prefer your fantasy world, where the great big bogey Muslim people are all just out to get you, right?  Yeah, sure, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where your sort of fantasies are tolerated with all your little kiddy friends.  You know, the Racists, the Islamophobes and the Bigots.  Tsk, tsk.   25 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Indochinese.  50 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Italians and the Greeks and the Yugoslavs.  80 years ago, you've have been railing against the Catholics and the Jews.   You never learn, do you?   Fool.   ::) ::) ::)

No ... not a chance .... they integrated into Australian society.

As for Indo-Chinese .... we already had descendants of Chinese here from the gold rush days ....

many of which integrated into our society ...far nth qld  & the nthn territory & nthrn WA is full of them.


However I do have a problem with large chunks of Australian agricultural land, infrastructure and residential properties being sold off to Chinese nationals.

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 9:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:31am: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21am: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm: Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:02am: I'm from the UK, and it means squat all to me. You? Don't answer that, Homo. You couldn't give a hoot either. What sort of pansy would krap on about their British heritage? We grew here. If I were from the UK, seeing the way it's gone, I'd feel the same - helpless and hopeless to intervene and prevent my native land from becoming a turd factory... Guess that's why the Poms come here and go elsewhere.... just not to Muslim countries... As I said, I was there last month and I can tell you that my little suburb is more multicultural than London, and has a much higher percentage of Muslims. Have you been there lately, to see for yourself? It's nothing like "they" say it is. Oh look: I was right (again). "The YourNewsWire.com article is meant to enflame fears that Muslims in London are starting to outnumber Christians, and that Christians (or their culture) will soon be displaced " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it givesa false impression of Britain’s current reality." Google "how many mosques are there in the UK?" The answer I get is 1,650 Pecca. " — but thanks to poor research and cherry-picked numbers, it gives a false impression of Britain’s current reality." Exactly what I said   ;) It's a fact that when Muslims monopolise areas the churches become mosques. It even happens here. Losing churches to mosques is actually a factual statement.

And ... ?     :-/

How much does this raise the level of concern over the currently predominant Muslim terrorist threat?

Gnads wrote on Oct 19^th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:06pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:46am: Waffle waffle waffle ... as repetitious as Peccar. Don't forget to give your Labrador his heart worm, flea, round worm & tick medication. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Appears you don't like reading about the truth, do you, Gnads?  You prefer your fantasy world, where the great big bogey Muslim people are all just out to get you, right?  Yeah, sure, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where your sort of fantasies are tolerated with all your little kiddy friends.  You know, the Racists, the Islamophobes and the Bigots.  Tsk, tsk.   25 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Indochinese.  50 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Italians and the Greeks and the Yugoslavs.  80 years ago, you've have been railing against the Catholics and the Jews.   You never learn, do you?   Fool.   ::) ::) ::) No ... not a chance .... they integrated into Australian society. As for Indo-Chinese .... we already had descendants of Chinese here from the gold rush days .... many of which integrated into our society ...far nth qld  & the nthn territory & nthrn WA is full of them. However I do have a problem with large chunks of Australian agricultural land, infrastructure and residential properties being sold off to Chinese nationals.

Hear, hear.... I may have a Chinese ancestor myself... accounts for the lovely olive skin and the wise eyes with the slight fold... but I'm not happy with selling off anything to Communist China, a nation clearly bent on its idea of global hegemony...

Stoopid is as stoopid does, and when our politicians and 'business' pirates want 'investment' - they don't give one damn if that investment is IN this nation or simply in order to rip off this nation.  They just think it's a good thing no matter how disastrous in the short and long term .....

Many politicians and public servants are bought off with a contract to deliver to them a nice retirer in huge salary and perks for life for selling out this nation... and yet none call it corrupt...

Europe is suffering a Muslim Invasion of millions... Australia is suffering an Asian Invasion of thousands... too many of whom are from countries with not our best interests in mind.  Control of the Port of Darwin shuts the gate on supplies to air and US Marine facilities in The Terr'uh'tree, at the whim of its Chinese Communist 'owners'... YTF would any government do that to itself and its allies?

Are the US and the Communist Chinese going to suddenly become best mates - given that the US now owes China trilions of dollars borrowed to kill Arabs and Persians.... and *CChina could collapse the US dollar overnight by calling in the debts.....  what kind of idiot (apart from George Dubbyah) would sign up to such a deal?

*to differentiate between Mainland China and Other Chinese - CChina is Communist China.... maybe Chinca.... over to the board....

Gnads wrote on Oct 19^th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:06pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:46am: Waffle waffle waffle ... as repetitious as Peccar. Don't forget to give your Labrador his heart worm, flea, round worm & tick medication. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Appears you don't like reading about the truth, do you, Gnads?  You prefer your fantasy world, where the great big bogey Muslim people are all just out to get you, right?  Yeah, sure, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where your sort of fantasies are tolerated with all your little kiddy friends.  You know, the Racists, the Islamophobes and the Bigots.  Tsk, tsk.   25 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Indochinese.  50 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Italians and the Greeks and the Yugoslavs.  80 years ago, you've have been railing against the Catholics and the Jews.   You never learn, do you?   Fool.   ::) ::) ::) No ... not a chance .... they integrated into Australian society.

Yet, at the time, they were suspected of undermining it, Gnads.  Tsk, tsk, I can just imagine what you'd have said...


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As for Indo-Chinese .... we already had descendants of Chinese here from the gold rush days .... many of which integrated into our society ...far nth qld  & the nthn territory & nthrn WA is full of them.

You do realise there is a considerable difference between the Indochinese and the Chinese, I hope, Gnads?  Or are you one of those, "lump 'em all in together" sort of bigots?  Mmmm?


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However I do have a problem with large chunks of Australian agricultural land, infrastructure and residential properties being sold off to Chinese nationals.

Why?  I haven't noticed any reports of missing land or infrastructure, so it's obvious they haven't been tucking them into their back pockets and taking them back to China with them.  You do realise that comment was first made by Sir Joh, back in the 1980s, about Japanese investors?   He was right.  We need their money, they can't take the land or structures away.  What are you frightened of with the Chinese as compared to the Japanese, the Koreans, the Americans, the British?   They are all previous big investors in Australian land and infrastructure.   They didn't take them home in their back pockets either.  Tsk, tsk, you just keep banging the rocks together, Gnads.  You'll eventually work it out.  Racism is a despicable way to treat your fellow human beings.   ::) ::)

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 19^th, 2018 at 12:27pm:

Hear, hear.... I may have a Chinese ancestor myself... accounts for the lovely olive skin and the wise eyes with the slight fold... but I'm not happy with selling off anything to Communist China, a nation clearly bent on its idea of global hegemony...

China ceased to be "Communist" in anything other than it's name when Deng became Chairman, Graps.  Time to retire your Cold War thinking, just like the Cold War itself.  China is today a bustling, capitalist nation.   Money talks and it shouts in China, in a big way.  Unheard of in a truly Communist nation or society.


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Stoopid is as stoopid does, and when our politicians and 'business' pirates want 'investment' - they don't give one damn if that investment is IN this nation or simply in order to rip off this nation.  They just think it's a good thing no matter how disastrous in the short and long term .....

I hadn't noticed any holes in the terrain where the land or infrastructure that the Chinese have invested in once resided.  They cannot poke them into their backpocket and take them back to China, you realise?

Australia has always depended on foreign investors for our development.  They used to be, when Australia was colonised, British, then along trotted the Americans and then the Japanese and now the Chinese.  It seems though, we cannot accept their money for some obscure reason.  I wonder what that might be, Graps?  Mmmm?  Could it be well, because, they are Chinese?  *GASP*, really?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


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Many politicians and public servants are bought off with a contract to deliver to them a nice retirer in huge salary and perks for life for selling out this nation... and yet none call it corrupt...

Evidence please, Graps.   If you have details of any corrupt dealings, please forward them to the AFP.  I am sure they would be particularly interested in reading them...   ::)

As for you rest of your diatribe:

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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2018 at 1:48pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 8:33am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:06pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:46am: Waffle waffle waffle ... as repetitious as Peccar. Don't forget to give your Labrador his heart worm, flea, round worm & tick medication. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Appears you don't like reading about the truth, do you, Gnads?  You prefer your fantasy world, where the great big bogey Muslim people are all just out to get you, right?  Yeah, sure, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where your sort of fantasies are tolerated with all your little kiddy friends.  You know, the Racists, the Islamophobes and the Bigots.  Tsk, tsk.   25 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Indochinese.  50 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Italians and the Greeks and the Yugoslavs.  80 years ago, you've have been railing against the Catholics and the Jews.   You never learn, do you?   Fool.   ::) ::) ::) No ... not a chance .... they integrated into Australian society. Yet, at the time, they were suspected of undermining it, Gnads.  Tsk, tsk, I can just imagine what you'd have said... Quote: As for Indo-Chinese .... we already had descendants of Chinese here from the gold rush days .... many of which integrated into our society ...far nth qld  & the nthn territory & nthrn WA is full of them. You do realise there is a considerable difference between the Indochinese and the Chinese, I hope, Gnads?  Or are you one of those, "lump 'em all in together" sort of bigots?  Mmmm? [quote] However I do have a problem with large chunks of Australian agricultural land, infrastructure and residential properties being sold off to Chinese nationals.

Why?  I haven't noticed any reports of missing land or infrastructure, so it's obvious they haven't been tucking them into their back pockets and taking them back to China with them.  You do realise that comment was first made by Sir Joh, back in the 1980s, about Japanese investors?   He was right.  We need their money, they can't take the land or structures away.  What are you frightened of with the Chinese as compared to the Japanese, the Koreans, the Americans, the British?   They are all previous big investors in Australian land and infrastructure.   They didn't take them home in their back pockets either.  Tsk, tsk, you just keep banging the rocks together, Gnads.  You'll eventually work it out.  Racism is a despicable way to treat your fellow human beings.   ::) ::)[/quote]

That's all you have a... assumptions & imaginations.

Yes I know the difference  .... and all those countries/regions had ethnic chinese populations long before Australia did. 

I don't know about how long it will be before "who" eventually gets it ..... but one has to be very naive when one believes that any foreign national that has full control over our infrastructure like ports, agriculture & natural resources controls the market, prices and how much or little it pays to our govt .... you know the same govt that's giving massive tax breaks to big business in australia that already pays little tax that they don't need the bs line that "they're not taking it home in their back pocket" to control us.

Big buisiness runs the world.

Chinese will only employ...chinese.
They fly them in from china to work for $2 a day...fudge the books so the stupid Aussies can't touch them then when they're done, fly them home.
It's happening right now on a multiplex job on the gold coast. The workers have till xmas...then it's all chinese labor from there 
Good luck getting a job with them, and if you do....you wont even be able to pay for food.
Canada is another example. Workers in tent cities living outside the job site.

Big buisiness controls the gov....even more so when we get this bullshyte TPP pushed onto us. The gov will be nothing....actually it already is.  ;)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2018 at 1:56pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 12:27pm: Hear, hear.... I may have a Chinese ancestor myself... accounts for the lovely olive skin and the wise eyes with the slight fold... but I'm not happy with selling off anything to Communist China, a nation clearly bent on its idea of global hegemony... China ceased to be "Communist" in anything other than it's name when Deng became Chairman, Graps.  Time to retire your Cold War thinking, just like the Cold War itself.  China is today a bustling, capitalist nation.   Money talks and it shouts in China, in a big way.  Unheard of in a truly Communist nation or society. Quote: Stoopid is as stoopid does, and when our politicians and 'business' pirates want 'investment' - they don't give one damn if that investment is IN this nation or simply in order to rip off this nation.  They just think it's a good thing no matter how disastrous in the short and long term ..... I hadn't noticed any holes in the terrain where the land or infrastructure that the Chinese have invested in once resided.  They cannot poke them into their backpocket and take them back to China, you realise? Australia has always depended on foreign investors for our development.  They used to be, when Australia was colonised, British, then along trotted the Americans and then the Japanese and now the Chinese.  It seems though, we cannot accept their money for some obscure reason.  I wonder what that might be, Graps?  Mmmm?  Could it be well, because, they are Chinese?  *GASP*, really?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) [quote]Many politicians and public servants are bought off with a contract to deliver to them a nice retirer in huge salary and perks for life for selling out this nation... and yet none call it corrupt...

Evidence please, Graps.   If you have details of any corrupt dealings, please forward them to the AFP.  I am sure they would be particularly interested in reading them...   ::)

As for you rest of your diatribe:

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Oligarchy for the rich - communism for the poor, Brian.... some people still actually believe or are forced to believe in the 'socialist' dream that never was, and if they don't they are forced to, since otherwise Big Brother will have their arse.  Tell the modern Chinese dissident that the old ways no longer apply.....

All that's changed is that the Big Boys are amassing mega-fortunes while continuing to exploit every facet of a controlled state.

Call it what you like... THEIR Cold War thinking has changed little, even if the ordinary Chinese is OK, and buying up property and such is a way of gaining an edge over the nation purchased, same as constant expansion in the South China Sea is.  Every facet of their newfound business ideal is simply a new way to continue the Cold War and dominate....

That cold War, BTW, is set to erupt into a hot war, for the same old factors that brought us all the former big wars.  Be an interesting alliance of self-preservation surrounding China once things warm up.... all those little capitalist client states as a buffer zone... reminiscent of pre WW II Europe and Russia...

ONLY while trade seems to benefit the West's Big Boys will this continue...... so national security for the moment decrees tolerance of Chinese excess and intrusions through fear - and that's the word for it - of a war erupting..... WHEN war breaks out, the big losers will be those who currently benefit from relations with China, and their donations will be wasted and they themselves angry.

I guess they'll just have to throw the 'lower class' losers into the fray, the same ones who they've deprived of livelihoods due to their machinations in pursuit of profit, in large numbers.  The losses won't matter since they are of the loser class anyway... TOP.

The disenfranchised Loser Class, of course, will flock to the banner.... as they always have done.  ::)

Just 'holes in the economy' Brian .. ever widening holes in the economy, same as the US.. open your eyes.... and a consequent flood-down to those at 'the bottom' (TOP* anyway)...

What are your thoughts on the reasons for popular discontent and eventual revolution/revolt/insurrection?


* just to remind you all - TOP = They're Only Peasants.. give a nice twist to TOP Gun, eh?

"Meet Harry - he's my TOP man... $2 an hour and all found and he's happy as Larry - my other TOP man!"

Is this happening in our country?

Or is it a gee up?

Nothing would surprise me about Melbourne.

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Gnads wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 7:46am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 1:48pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 8:33am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:06pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:46am: Waffle waffle waffle ... as repetitious as Peccar. Don't forget to give your Labrador his heart worm, flea, round worm & tick medication. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Appears you don't like reading about the truth, do you, Gnads?  You prefer your fantasy world, where the great big bogey Muslim people are all just out to get you, right?  Yeah, sure, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where your sort of fantasies are tolerated with all your little kiddy friends.  You know, the Racists, the Islamophobes and the Bigots.  Tsk, tsk.   25 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Indochinese.  50 years ago, you'd have been railing against the Italians and the Greeks and the Yugoslavs.  80 years ago, you've have been railing against the Catholics and the Jews.   You never learn, do you?   Fool.   ::) ::) ::) No ... not a chance .... they integrated into Australian society. Yet, at the time, they were suspected of undermining it, Gnads.  Tsk, tsk, I can just imagine what you'd have said... Quote: As for Indo-Chinese .... we already had descendants of Chinese here from the gold rush days .... many of which integrated into our society ...far nth qld  & the nthn territory & nthrn WA is full of them. You do realise there is a considerable difference between the Indochinese and the Chinese, I hope, Gnads?  Or are you one of those, "lump 'em all in together" sort of bigots?  Mmmm? [quote] However I do have a problem with large chunks of Australian agricultural land, infrastructure and residential properties being sold off to Chinese nationals. Why?  I haven't noticed any reports of missing land or infrastructure, so it's obvious they haven't been tucking them into their back pockets and taking them back to China with them.  You do realise that comment was first made by Sir Joh, back in the 1980s, about Japanese investors?   He was right.  We need their money, they can't take the land or structures away.  What are you frightened of with the Chinese as compared to the Japanese, the Koreans, the Americans, the British?   They are all previous big investors in Australian land and infrastructure.   They didn't take them home in their back pockets either.  Tsk, tsk, you just keep banging the rocks together, Gnads.  You'll eventually work it out.  Racism is a despicable way to treat your fellow human beings.   ::) ::)

That's all you have a... assumptions & imaginations.

Yes I know the difference  .... and all those countries/regions had ethnic chinese populations long before Australia did. 
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Yet for someone to be "Indochinese" means they are not Chinese.  They are Vietnamese, Cambodian or Laotian in origin, Gnads.  Indeed, most Indochinese would be insulted by your claim that they were Chinese in origin.  Funny that...


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I don't know about how long it will be before "who" eventually gets it ..... but one has to be very naive when one believes that any foreign national that has full control over our infrastructure like ports, agriculture & natural resources controls the market, prices and how much or little it pays to our govt .... you know the same govt that's giving massive tax breaks to big business in australia that already pays little tax that they don't need the bs line that "they're not taking it home in their back pocket" to control us.

They participate in the market, Gnads.  They do not control it.  Not until the Australian Government is controlled completely by the PRC's.  How likely do you think that is to occur?  Really?   ::)

Chinese investment is simply money which we use.  They cannot put the land or the infrastructure or the buildings in their backpocket and take it home to China.  I am unsure why you find that such a difficult point to grasp.   Chinese money looks exactly like British/US/European/Indian money.    ::)

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 9:54am:

Oligarchy for the rich - communism for the poor, Brian.... some people still actually believe or are forced to believe in the 'socialist' dream that never was, and if they don't they are forced to, since otherwise Big Brother will have their arse.  Tell the modern Chinese dissident that the old ways no longer apply.....

Ah, now you are deliberately conflating personal freedom with economic freedom, Graps.  There is a world of difference between the two.  China is much more relaxed, by and large, about personal freedoms as long as the Party's supremacy in political affairs is acknowledged.  The overwhelming majority of Chinese people get and understand that.  A tiny minority don't.  In China you can create businesses, you can own land, you are taxed, you can do all that and a whole lot more, as long as the Party rules supreme.


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All that's changed is that the Big Boys are amassing mega-fortunes while continuing to exploit every facet of a controlled state. Call it what you like... THEIR Cold War thinking has changed little, even if the ordinary Chinese is OK, and buying up property and such is a way of gaining an edge over the nation purchased, same as constant expansion in the South China Sea is.  Every facet of their newfound business ideal is simply a new way to continue the Cold War and dominate....

The Chinese never really participated in the Cold War, Graps, despite what you learnt in the 1960s.  The Chinese just wanted, as they always have been, to be the centre of the world - the Middle Kingdom - between heaven and earth.  Something most people appear unable to recognise.  The Mandate of Heaven is now held by the Party, not the Emperor.   ::)

Gnads wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 3:03pm:

Is this happening in our country? Or is it a gee up? Nothing would surprise me about Melbourne.

It's a hoax.

There's no organization called the “Supreme Islamic Council of Victoria" and, the city of Melbourne doesn’t typically refer to itself as “the City of Greater Melbourne,”

It was just some Islamophobe trying to stir up hatred, as usual.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 4:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 3:03pm: Is this happening in our country? Or is it a gee up? Nothing would surprise me about Melbourne. It's a hoax. There's no organization called the “Supreme Islamic Council of Victoria" and, the city of Melbourne doesn’t typically refer to itself as “the City of Greater Melbourne,” It was just some Islamophobe trying to stir up hatred, as usual.

And yet it is exactly what an Islamic authority would put up, that's why it is so believable. Or maybe there is a band of 'lone wolf' Muslims who have appointed themselves to the SICoVs.



BTW, there is no such thing as 'Islamophobia' There is only defiance of a strange and alien threat to the West. And that defiance is a good thing. Nobody is obliged to genuflect to any Islamic tenet, custom or value in a free Western country. It is not insensitive or hateful to defy Islam and its expectations and impositions.


#ItsOKtodefyIslam

Frank wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 5:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 4:20pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 3:03pm: Is this happening in our country? Or is it a gee up? Nothing would surprise me about Melbourne. It's a hoax. There's no organization called the “Supreme Islamic Council of Victoria" and, the city of Melbourne doesn’t typically refer to itself as “the City of Greater Melbourne,” It was just some Islamophobe trying to stir up hatred, as usual. And yet it is exactly what an Islamic authority would put up, that's why it is so believable.

But they haven't, so it isn't.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 5:03pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 5:00pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 4:20pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 3:03pm: Is this happening in our country? Or is it a gee up? Nothing would surprise me about Melbourne. It's a hoax. There's no organization called the “Supreme Islamic Council of Victoria" and, the city of Melbourne doesn’t typically refer to itself as “the City of Greater Melbourne,” It was just some Islamophobe trying to stir up hatred, as usual. And yet it is exactly what an Islamic authority would put up, that's why it is so believable. But they haven't, so it isn't.

Haven't they? There is no central authority in Islam, Turd.  For all you know, there may well be some ISIS endorsin' bunch of nuffin' to do wiv Islam types with bushy beards and cowered wives who do want to make a point.

Chouderay is out of jail in the UK so all the buvvers are energised worldwide.   Do you speak classical Arabic, anyway? No. So shuddup, you know nuffin' about Islam.

Frank wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 5:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 5:03pm: Frank wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 5:00pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 4:20pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 3:03pm: Is this happening in our country? Or is it a gee up? Nothing would surprise me about Melbourne. It's a hoax. There's no organization called the “Supreme Islamic Council of Victoria" and, the city of Melbourne doesn’t typically refer to itself as “the City of Greater Melbourne,” It was just some Islamophobe trying to stir up hatred, as usual. And yet it is exactly what an Islamic authority would put up, that's why it is so believable. But they haven't, so it isn't. Haven't they? There is no central authority in Islam, Turd.  For all you know, there may well be some ISIS endorsin' bunch of nuffin' to do wiv Islam types with bushy beards and cowered wives who do want to make a point. Chouderay is out of jail in the UK so all the buvvers are energised worldwide.   Do you speak classical Arabic, anyway? No. So shuddup, you know nuffin' about Islam.

No.

It was a hoax designed to get ignorant Islamophbes all worked up.

Worked a treat, by the look of things.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 5:20pm:

Islamophbes

There is no such thing as 'Islamophobia' There is only defiance of a strange and alien threat to the West. And that defiance is a good thing. Nobody is obliged to genuflect to any Islamic tenet, custom or value in a free Western country. It is not insensitive or hateful to defy Islam and its expectations and impositions.


#ItsOKtodefyIslam

Frank wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 6:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 5:20pm: Islamophbes There is no such thing as 'Islamophobia' There is only defiance of a strange and alien threat to the West. And that defiance is a good thing. Nobody is obliged to genuflect to any Islamic tenet, custom or value in a free Western country. It is not insensitive or hateful to defy Islam and its expectations and impositions. #ItsOKtodefyIslam

Spoken like a true Islamophobe.

Islamophobia - the word you use when you've run out of words..... (see Homophobia, misogyny, Racism)....

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

Islamophobia - the word you use when you've run out of words..... (see Homophobia, misogyny, Racism)....

... you want to describe the irrational fear and hatred of Muslims and/or Islam.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

Islamophobia - the word you use when you've run out of words..... (see Homophobia, misogyny, Racism)....

In fact its an admission of defeat.

As soon as an apologist starts screaming Racist, Bigot or islamaphobe.

It simply means

"I HAVE NO ARGUMENT FOR THAT, YOU BEAT ME AGAIN, SO ILL SCREAM LIKE A LOONY ISLAMAPHOBE"

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 7:07pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 7:05pm: Islamophobia - the word you use when you've run out of words..... (see Homophobia, misogyny, Racism).... ... you want to describe the irrational fear and hatred of Muslims and/or Islam.

Define this 'irrational fear of Muslims etc'???  Let's be clear here .. what exactly constitutes irrational fear as opposed to reasoned discussion of real issues????.. 

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No ... not a chance .... they integrated into Australian society.

Yet, at the time, they were suspected of undermining it, Gnads.  Tsk, tsk, I can just imagine what you'd have said...


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As for Indo-Chinese .... we already had descendants of Chinese here from the gold rush days .... many of which integrated into our society ...far nth qld  & the nthn territory & nthrn WA is full of them.

You do realise there is a considerable difference between the Indochinese and the Chinese, I hope, Gnads?  Or are you one of those, "lump 'em all in together" sort of bigots?  Mmmm?


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However I do have a problem with large chunks of Australian agricultural land, infrastructure and residential properties being sold off to Chinese nationals.

Why?  I haven't noticed any reports of missing land or infrastructure, so it's obvious they haven't been tucking them into their back pockets and taking them back to China with them.  You do realise that comment was first made by Sir Joh, back in the 1980s, about Japanese investors?   He was right.  We need their money, they can't take the land or structures away.  What are you frightened of with the Chinese as compared to the Japanese, the Koreans, the Americans, the British?   They are all previous big investors in Australian land and infrastructure.   They didn't take them home in their back pockets either.  Tsk, tsk, you just keep banging the rocks together, Gnads.  You'll eventually work it out.  Racism is a despicable way to treat your fellow human beings.   ::) ::)[/quote]

That's all you have a... assumptions & imaginations.

Yes I know the difference  .... and all those countries/regions had ethnic chinese populations long before Australia did. 
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Yet for someone to be "Indochinese" means they are not Chinese.  They are Vietnamese, Cambodian or Laotian in origin, Gnads.  Indeed, most Indochinese would be insulted by your claim that they were Chinese in origin.  Funny that...


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I don't know about how long it will be before "who" eventually gets it ..... but one has to be very naive when one believes that any foreign national that has full control over our infrastructure like ports, agriculture & natural resources controls the market, prices and how much or little it pays to our govt .... you know the same govt that's giving massive tax breaks to big business in australia that already pays little tax that they don't need the bs line that "they're not taking it home in their back pocket" to control us.

They participate in the market, Gnads.  They do not control it.  Not until the Australian Government is controlled completely by the PRC's.  How likely do you think that is to occur?  Really?   ::)

Chinese investment is simply money which we use.  They cannot put the land or the infrastructure or the buildings in their backpocket and take it home to China.  I am unsure why you find that such a difficult point to grasp.   Chinese money looks exactly like British/US/European/Indian money.    ::)[/quote]

Durrh .... and they & the Chinese had a common ancestor - the Mongols.


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The Vietnamese or Kinh people are an Austroasiatic people and originated somewhere in today southern China. ... From there they migrated to other parts of Vietnam. Genetic analysis show that they are a mongoloid population closely related to today southern Chinese and other southeast Asians.

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The Lao people or Laotians are a Tai ethnic group native to Southeast Asia, who speak the eponymous language of the Tai–Kadai group, originating from present-day southern China. They are the majority ethnic group of Laos, making up 53.2% of the total population. The majority of Lao people adhere to Theravada Buddhism. They are closely related to other Tai peoples, especially (or synonymous) with the Isan people, who are also speakers of Lao language, but native to neighboring Thailand.

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Origin of the Thais. The Thai people are thought to have originated in the southern Chinese province of Yunnan. They are related to other people that either live there now or originated there such as the Dai and the Lao. The Thais began migrating southward in successive waves, perhaps as early as A.D. 1050.

Have another try Noddy Knowall.

Gnads wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 9:10am:

Durrh .... and they & the Chinese had a common ancestor - the Mongols. Quote: The Vietnamese or Kinh people are an Austroasiatic people and originated somewhere in today southern China. ... From there they migrated to other parts of Vietnam. Genetic analysis show that they are a mongoloid population closely related to today southern Chinese and other southeast Asians. [quote]The Lao people or Laotians are a Tai ethnic group native to Southeast Asia, who speak the eponymous language of the Tai–Kadai group, originating from present-day southern China. They are the majority ethnic group of Laos, making up 53.2% of the total population. The majority of Lao people adhere to Theravada Buddhism. They are closely related to other Tai peoples, especially (or synonymous) with the Isan people, who are also speakers of Lao language, but native to neighboring Thailand.

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Origin of the Thais. The Thai people are thought to have originated in the southern Chinese province of Yunnan. They are related to other people that either live there now or originated there such as the Dai and the Lao. The Thais began migrating southward in successive waves, perhaps as early as A.D. 1050.

Have another try Noddy Knowall.[/quote]

Links?  Where did you find that stuff, Gnads?

The Mongols came into being well after the establishment of China and Indochina as separate states/regions, Gnads.  Time to get down off your racist high horse and stop displaying your racism for all to see.  It is childish.   ::)

Racism is a dead art, Gnads.  Modern Genetics has demonstrated that all Human beings are from the one set of ancestors - in Africa.   There are today, more differences within each "racial" group than there are between them.   We all share the same Genes.  It is how humanity exists.  It is how the various "racial" groups can interbreed.   We are all related and it is why there is only one "race" - the human one.  Homo Sapiens Sapiens.  You are related to Asians, Africans, South Sea Islanders, Native Americans.   Time to face facts, Racism is out of date and dead.   It was based on erroneous beliefs that the external, superficial "racial" factors, determined a persons' intelligence or their virility or what ever.  In reality, they are just evolutionary traits created where people lived.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 7:07pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 7:05pm: Islamophobia - the word you use when you've run out of words..... (see Homophobia, misogyny, Racism).... ... you want to describe the irrational fear and hatred of Muslims and/or Islam.

Irrational fear? How so?

Gays guys say it best ime when they get accused of islamophobia, they just post links to LiveLeak and BestGore of muzzies throwing gays off buildings.

Such fear is not irrational, it is well justified.

The left in fact have the most to fear from hard line Muslims eg women's rights, lbgqt...abc, sorry  can't keep up with all the gender letters.

The left will not be tolerated.to exist in an hard line Islamic state.

Term Dog wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 11:45am:

Gays guys say it best ime when they get accused of islamophobia, they just post links to LiveLeak and BestGore of muzzies throwing gays off buildings. Such fear is not irrational, it is well justified. The left in fact have the most to fear from hard line Muslims eg women's rights, lbgqt...abc, sorry  can't keep up with all the gender letters. The left will not be tolerated.to exist in an hard line Islamic state.

Gee......is Australia an Islamic State?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 10:30am:

Gnads wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 9:10am: Durrh .... and they & the Chinese had a common ancestor - the Mongols. Quote: The Vietnamese or Kinh people are an Austroasiatic people and originated somewhere in today southern China. ... From there they migrated to other parts of Vietnam. Genetic analysis show that they are a mongoloid population closely related to today southern Chinese and other southeast Asians. [quote]The Lao people or Laotians are a Tai ethnic group native to Southeast Asia, who speak the eponymous language of the Tai–Kadai group, originating from present-day southern China. They are the majority ethnic group of Laos, making up 53.2% of the total population. The majority of Lao people adhere to Theravada Buddhism. They are closely related to other Tai peoples, especially (or synonymous) with the Isan people, who are also speakers of Lao language, but native to neighboring Thailand. [quote]Origin of the Thais. The Thai people are thought to have originated in the southern Chinese province of Yunnan. They are related to other people that either live there now or originated there such as the Dai and the Lao. The Thais began migrating southward in successive waves, perhaps as early as A.D. 1050.

Have another try Noddy Knowall.[/quote]

Links?  Where did you find that stuff, Gnads?

The Mongols came into being well after the establishment of China and Indochina as separate states/regions, Gnads.  Time to get down off your racist high horse and stop displaying your racism for all to see.  It is childish.   ::)

Racism is a dead art, Gnads.  Modern Genetics has demonstrated that all Human beings are from the one set of ancestors - in Africa.   There are today, more differences within each "racial" group than there are between them.   We all share the same Genes.  It is how humanity exists.  It is how the various "racial" groups can interbreed.   We are all related and it is why there is only one "race" - the human one.  Homo Sapiens Sapiens.  You are related to Asians, Africans, South Sea Islanders, Native Americans.   Time to face facts, Racism is out of date and dead.   It was based on erroneous beliefs that the external, superficial "racial" factors, determined a persons' intelligence or their virility or what ever.  In reality, they are just evolutionary traits created where people lived.[/quote]

Links schminks - use Wiki you leftard progressive wanker.

It's not stuff ... just type "origins of ...... people" into your search bar Noddy.

As for your "everybody is everybody" dogma ... that's whats dated & if you don't know how racist other races are then you can't be helped.

And this racism that's "dead" ...... is that the same racism that says only "white people" are racists?

Watch any show on NITV or SBS or the ABC that features any of the negroid or brown peoples & you will see racism ...... because everything is whiteys fault ..... whitey this, whitey that.

A world full of victim card playing racists supported by self loathing bleeding heart numpties like yourself.

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 11:50am:

Term Dog wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:45am: Gays guys say it best ime when they get accused of islamophobia, they just post links to LiveLeak and BestGore of muzzies throwing gays off buildings. Such fear is not irrational, it is well justified. The left in fact have the most to fear from hard line Muslims eg women's rights, lbgqt...abc, sorry  can't keep up with all the gender letters. The left will not be tolerated.to exist in an hard line Islamic state. Gee......is Australia an Islamic State?

It may not be in your life time .... do you have children & grandchildren & great grand children?

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 11:50am:

Term Dog wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:45am: Gays guys say it best ime when they get accused of islamophobia, they just post links to LiveLeak and BestGore of muzzies throwing gays off buildings. Such fear is not irrational, it is well justified. The left in fact have the most to fear from hard line Muslims eg women's rights, lbgqt...abc, sorry  can't keep up with all the gender letters. The left will not be tolerated.to exist in an hard line Islamic state. Gee......is Australia an Islamic State?

I hope it will be very soon.

I want to marry four women.

Auggie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:50am: Term Dog wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:45am: Gays guys say it best ime when they get accused of islamophobia, they just post links to LiveLeak and BestGore of muzzies throwing gays off buildings. Such fear is not irrational, it is well justified. The left in fact have the most to fear from hard line Muslims eg women's rights, lbgqt...abc, sorry  can't keep up with all the gender letters. The left will not be tolerated.to exist in an hard line Islamic state. Gee......is Australia an Islamic State? I hope it will be very soon. I want to marry four women.

Why stop at women, you'll also be able to marry girls and beat them. It'll be a grand country.

Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Auggie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:49pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:50am: Term Dog wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:45am: Gays guys say it best ime when they get accused of islamophobia, they just post links to LiveLeak and BestGore of muzzies throwing gays off buildings. Such fear is not irrational, it is well justified. The left in fact have the most to fear from hard line Muslims eg women's rights, lbgqt...abc, sorry  can't keep up with all the gender letters. The left will not be tolerated.to exist in an hard line Islamic state. Gee......is Australia an Islamic State? I hope it will be very soon. I want to marry four women. Why stop at women, you'll also be able to marry girls and beat them. It'll be a grand country.

For blokes anyway ;) ;D

Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Auggie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:49pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:50am: Term Dog wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:45am: Gays guys say it best ime when they get accused of islamophobia, they just post links to LiveLeak and BestGore of muzzies throwing gays off buildings. Such fear is not irrational, it is well justified. The left in fact have the most to fear from hard line Muslims eg women's rights, lbgqt...abc, sorry  can't keep up with all the gender letters. The left will not be tolerated.to exist in an hard line Islamic state. Gee......is Australia an Islamic State? I hope it will be very soon. I want to marry four women. Why stop at women, you'll also be able to marry girls and beat them. It'll be a grand country.

That is completely unacceptable and just plain wrong. I wouldn't never go to that low.

Gnads wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 5:57pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:55pm: Auggie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:49pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:50am: Term Dog wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:45am: Gays guys say it best ime when they get accused of islamophobia, they just post links to LiveLeak and BestGore of muzzies throwing gays off buildings. Such fear is not irrational, it is well justified. The left in fact have the most to fear from hard line Muslims eg women's rights, lbgqt...abc, sorry  can't keep up with all the gender letters. The left will not be tolerated.to exist in an hard line Islamic state. Gee......is Australia an Islamic State? I hope it will be very soon. I want to marry four women. Why stop at women, you'll also be able to marry girls and beat them. It'll be a grand country. For blokes anyway ;) ;D

You're just jealous that you'd be left with nothing.

Auggie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 5:59pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:55pm: Auggie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:49pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:50am: Term Dog wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:45am: Gays guys say it best ime when they get accused of islamophobia, they just post links to LiveLeak and BestGore of muzzies throwing gays off buildings. Such fear is not irrational, it is well justified. The left in fact have the most to fear from hard line Muslims eg women's rights, lbgqt...abc, sorry  can't keep up with all the gender letters. The left will not be tolerated.to exist in an hard line Islamic state. Gee......is Australia an Islamic State? I hope it will be very soon. I want to marry four women. Why stop at women, you'll also be able to marry girls and beat them. It'll be a grand country. That is completely unacceptable and just plain wrong. I wouldn't never go to that low.

If Au was Islamic as you hope there would be stuff all you could do about it, if you tried to it'd be off with your head.

edit: Here you go, red countries have no age of consent if you are married.
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world

There wont be a whole lot of religious freedom when Australia becomes Islamic. Big troubles ahead.

Auggie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 6:00pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:57pm: Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:55pm: Auggie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:49pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:50am: Term Dog wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:45am: Gays guys say it best ime when they get accused of islamophobia, they just post links to LiveLeak and BestGore of muzzies throwing gays off buildings. Such fear is not irrational, it is well justified. The left in fact have the most to fear from hard line Muslims eg women's rights, lbgqt...abc, sorry  can't keep up with all the gender letters. The left will not be tolerated.to exist in an hard line Islamic state. Gee......is Australia an Islamic State? I hope it will be very soon. I want to marry four women. Why stop at women, you'll also be able to marry girls and beat them. It'll be a grand country. For blokes anyway ;) ;D You're just jealous that you'd be left with nothing.

Really? How so?

Time you got a new set of blinkers methinks.