Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:54pm
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:45pm:
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This could go on forever ;D
"I meant hardly any".
"I meant controlled by".
"I meant deaths".
"I meant a different category of terrorism".
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General Discussion >> Europe >> Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1537690684 Message started by Yadda on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 6:18pm |
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Title: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Yadda on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 6:18pm Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - greggery [the same greggery who promised, that he would leave OzPol if Trump won the U.S. presidency] . greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 21st, 2018 at 6:52pm:
COZ LIKE GREGGERY, ....ALMOST ALL EUROPEAN POLITICAL AUTHORITIES ARE BARE FACED LIARS . greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 21st, 2018 at 7:16pm:
COZ LIKE GREGGERY, ....ALMOST ALL EUROPEAN POLITICAL AUTHORITIES ARE BARE FACED LIARS . "Most terrorist attacks in Europe are committed by non-Muslims." - greggery That is because European authorities are not counting 90% of the terror attacks, as terror attacks, whenever those attacks involve moslem perps. PROOF ? Google; site:http://www.jihadwatch.org/ "not terrorism" a small sample of the hits.... Quote:
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:31pm "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem". Correct. The same goes for the USA, and Australia. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Yeah, 'strawberry terrorism' and loonies starting bushfires 'terrorism' - no coherent political or ideological aim. Islamic terrorism - clear ideological and political aims. . |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:43pm Frank wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:40pm:
As Yadda would say, every terrorist is a terrorist. The majority of terrorist attacks in western countries are carried out by non-Muslims. This isn't disputed by any law enforcement agency in the world. It's simply an undeniable fact. What baffles me is, why so many conservatives continue to make excuses for these non-Muslim terrorists. Do you know why they do it? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Yadda on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:50pm @ Reply #3 I hate you. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:55pm @ Reply #4 I love your Christian attitude. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 8:39pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:43pm:
Why don't you back up that assertion, Turd? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 8:44pm Frank wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 8:39pm:
I have. Yadda made a reference to the thread where I posted the proof. Check it out. There's no big secret, or even dispute over the facts. Now, do you think it's wise to defend non-Muslim terrorists? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Yadda on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 9:29pm @ Reply #5 I'm fortunate. I understand. I don't have to be perfect. Christian < > perfect. No flesh is perfect, before God. Mark 2:17 ....They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. I need a saviour. I need a redeemer. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 10:00pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 8:44pm:
:D :D :D :D A link to one, er, 'Beenish Ahmed' is your authority, Turd?? From ThinkProgress??? Who are they? Well: About ThinkProgress is a news site dedicated to providing our readers with rigorous reporting and analysis from a progressive perspective. Founded in 2005, ThinkProgress is an editorially independent project of the Center for American Progress Action Fund. Over the past decade, the site has evolved from a small rapid response blog to a newsroom of reporters and editors covering the intersections between politics, policy, culture, and social justice. Centre for American Progress Action Fund - who they? Well, The Center for American Progress (CAP) is a progressive public policy research and advocacy organization. The Center presents a liberal[2] viewpoint on economic and social issues. It has its headquarters in Washington, D.C. The president and chief executive officer of CAP is Neera Tanden, who worked for the Obama and Clinton administrations and for Hillary Clinton's campaigns.[3] The first president and CEO was John Podesta, who has served as White House Chief of Staff to U.S. President Bill Clinton and as the chairman of the 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton.[4] Podesta remained with the organization as chairman of the board until he joined the Obama White House staff in December 2013. Tom Daschle is the current chairman. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Turd, you stink from a mile!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by issuevoter on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 10:18pm
Whether the atrocity is terrorism, is of no importance to the dead and maimed. Muzlim atrocities in Europe are committed by Muzlims, in the name of Allah, His Prophet and the Koran.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 24th, 2018 at 7:38am issuevoter wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 10:18pm: Well spotted, DD. However, the majority of terrorism in Europe (and crime in general) is committed by non-Muslims. A fact you don't want to acknowledge, for some reason. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, moslem Post by Fuzzball on Sep 24th, 2018 at 8:10am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Don't get out much do you pessary.........too busy 18 hours a day posting shite on this forum....... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, moslem Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 24th, 2018 at 8:57am Fuzzball wrote on Sep 24th, 2018 at 8:10am:
You're disputing the official figures? Any evidence to support your claim? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 25th, 2018 at 2:21am
The theory of the single deranged jihadist remains as strong today as it was in 1963...... 22nd November.....
A clean hit with a precise triangulation of fire and a perfect co-ordination.. watch the video frame by frame and see for yourself.... PERFECT! He's NOT the fanatical religious adherent bent on killing Infidels he never met... he's just a VERY naughty boy! And all those who aided and abetted him? They're just naughty boys as well... so buggar off! He's not coming out! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Sep 25th, 2018 at 12:05pm
How many people died on 9-11?
How many people continue to die because those muslims picked a fight with a superpower? Does greggy know what a terror attack is? It's all in the definitions and fascists will hide behind curious language every step of the way... What else is propaganda?? Go greggy the terrorist pedo! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, moslem Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Sep 25th, 2018 at 12:08pm Fuzzball wrote on Sep 24th, 2018 at 8:10am:
That's what a terrorist does.... alah akhbar innit! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Sep 25th, 2018 at 12:10pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24th, 2018 at 7:38am:
Who started it? Those who hijacked the planes on September 11 are responsible for every single death the war they started caused! Your curious logic is just that: terrorist bullshit! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, moslem Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Sep 25th, 2018 at 12:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24th, 2018 at 8:57am:
The relevant figures are how many people have died since the muslims picked a fight with a superpower? Greggys hands have blood all over them: GOOD LUCK WITH THAT BUDDY! :-X |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 25th, 2018 at 12:13pm TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 25th, 2018 at 12:10pm:
Terrorism was around long before September 2001. Moreover, most of it was (and still is) carried out by non-Muslims. Oh, and a friendly piece of advice: you might want to remove the last line from reply #15. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 25th, 2018 at 6:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24th, 2018 at 7:38am:
And the stupid turd imagines that nobody notices his awkward attempt at a sleight of hand "(and crime in general)", trying to give himself an out by conflating his lies so can then interminably parrot it for months. He has done it endlessly and it makes him think he is clever. ;D ;D You are lying, you are stupid and dishonest turd, and we see it immediately you post something. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 25th, 2018 at 6:42pm Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
To clarify it for you: The majority of terrorism in Europe is committed by non-Muslims. The majority of crime in Europe is committed by non-Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 25th, 2018 at 10:02pm
A man accused of driving his car into pedestrians in Melbourne’s CBD last year had images of foreign mass car attacks on his computer and yelled “Allahu Akbar” when he was arrested, a court has heard.
Saeed Noori faced Melbourne’s Magistrates Court today for a committal hearing, where he is charged with one count of murder, 15 counts of attempted murder and a dangerous driving offence. Mr Noori was today committed to stand trial. He has entered a plea of not guilty. ... But they also said they could not determine Mr Noori’s motivation and that the defendant did not appear to be inspired by Islamic State. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/flinders-street-accused-had-photos-of-foreign-car-terror-attacks-court-told/news-story/903da74a9e5caae5868bd085c9e48534#&gid=null&pid=1 Yelling Allahu Akbar for bugger know what reason. Allah - nuffin' to do with Islam. A mystery. Time to make Muslims suffer the penalty and pay for the pain they inflict on the rest of society, wherever they may be. They are guilty of religiously and ideologically motivated crimes and violence. Have been for 1400 years. Ecrasez l'infame. Smash the rogues. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 25th, 2018 at 11:16pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:43pm:
It's a post-Cold War thing. They used to get all cranky about the IRA, Black September and Basque separatists too. We all did. In Europe, the big ones now are the skinheads - particularly in the east. They're far more deadly than the Allah Uakbarers. They're big in the US too, as the FBI keeps saying - about 60% white supremacists versus 20% per Muselman terrorist attack. The old boy loves to show how there are more whites than tinted Muslims (not racist; Islam is not a race). Hence the Muselman does more damage per capita. Cunning, no? Europe is full of skinheads stabbing and beating up darkies, it's what you do. The US is full of white supremacist gangs from jail shivving the darkies in the neck. Not racist, you see. And thus - not terrorism. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:19am Karnal wrote on Sep 25th, 2018 at 11:16pm:
Any support for this? Islamic attacks kill more people than any of those..... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Sep 27th, 2018 at 8:53pm
Who started the war on terror?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by issuevoter on Sep 28th, 2018 at 11:47am TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 8:53pm:
No one. There is no war on terror. It is a human sense of dread. It is not possible to declare war on a perception. Politicians think that by using such language, their constituents will believe they are doing something about the Muzlum problem. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Sep 28th, 2018 at 11:58am issuevoter wrote on Sep 28th, 2018 at 11:47am:
lol nothing is real ::) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 28th, 2018 at 12:06pm issuevoter wrote on Sep 28th, 2018 at 11:47am:
You're right, up to the last two words. Terrorism is a terrorist problem. Muslims aren't the only ones involved in terrorism. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 28th, 2018 at 12:18pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:19am:
Sure. Attacks against Central Asians have become rife in Russia. Before football officials cracked down, football stadiums in Eastern Europe hosted skinhead gangs, often chanting anti-Semitic slogans and beating up anyone with dark skin. These groups are connected internationally. In Russia, they do training in hand-to-hand combat and guerrilla warfare. They see themselves as the vanguard of the whole Brexit/nationalist thing. Putin turns a blind eye to them. Their killings don't tend to get categorised as hate-crimes or terrorism. They're on the rise in Germany, France, Poland and Italy. White supremacist groups there have been responsible for a huge number of bombings, arson attacks and killings. A plot was uncovered in Germany to blow up a refugee centre. A number of refuges have been killed over the last few years, confounding German authorities, who have a constitutional role in preventing white supremacist organisations. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Sep 29th, 2018 at 8:23am
The only evidence Greg has ever presented to back this up counts a graffiti attack as being the same as 9/11. He omits the fact that even among terrorists, Muslims stand out as the lowest of the low.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by issuevoter on Sep 29th, 2018 at 12:17pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 28th, 2018 at 12:06pm:
The Muzlim problem is by far the great instigation religious, and other, atrocities in the last 25 years. It is a daily series of events. There are no stats to contradict this. If there were, it would be widely publicised. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 29th, 2018 at 1:51pm freediver wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 8:23am:
No, FD, terrorism must be violent to satisfy the criteria. Greggery has cited numerous reports. I don't know how you define the lowest of the low though. I'd say a plot to blow up a refugee camp is pretty low too. You? Oh. Refugees are tinted. Forget I asked. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 29th, 2018 at 2:19pm issuevoter wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 12:17pm:
No, that's not true. Not even close. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by issuevoter on Sep 29th, 2018 at 3:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 2:19pm:
Dig up the stats. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 29th, 2018 at 5:40pm issuevoter wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 3:51pm:
They've been posted in this forum a hundred times. They've been posted in this very thread. You can't accept the truth, because you're an ignorant Islamophobe. That's your problem, not mine. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Sep 29th, 2018 at 6:10pm Quote:
You have posted some kind of evidence a few times. You got laughed off the board every time. So now you just repeat the claim but are afraid to produce the evidence. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 29th, 2018 at 6:11pm freediver wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 6:10pm:
I'm not afraid of anything. Least of all Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Sep 29th, 2018 at 7:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 6:11pm:
You are afraid of being laughed at when you trot out some new "evidence" to back up your claims, because you know the old evidence you presented doesn't really help your argument. But feel free to prove me wrong. You've done it hundreds of times already, apparently. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 29th, 2018 at 7:38pm freediver wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 7:24pm:
Good idea, FD. Why don't you post some evidence that disproves Greggery's articles? Too scared, are you? Come come, we're all friends here, you know. Why don't you give it a go? Try, for the first time since 2007, to back up your claim without a link to your own posts. It shouldn't be hard. A simple Google search should do it. We'll wait until your done, shall we? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 29th, 2018 at 7:55pm freediver wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 7:24pm:
I'm not afraid of anything. Least of all Muslims, or jellyfish. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 29th, 2018 at 8:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
We're all scared of jellyfish, Greggery, but don't you worry. FD will come back with a credible source, you'll see. He's quite keen to prove your 2% theory to be no more than rigged apologist figures - a pathetic hack-job perpetrated for no other reason than to make the Muselman seem okay. As for the death count, FD will show how this was caused by nothing more than a bit of harmless graffiti. You know, just a bit of healthy, white supremacist self-expression. All good, clean fun. FD's probably collating his evidence as we speak. He'll be back. FD'll wipe that grin off your face, don't you worry about that. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 29th, 2018 at 9:05pm
The influx of Muslims into Western countries has an effect. They are transforming those Western countries that let them in.
The transformation is not an improvement anywhere. Muslims are not improving any Western countries, coming from evidently inferior cultures and societies, bringing backward and primitive values and practices. To then say that the influx of such people has no effect on the receiving countries is stupid and is not an innocent mistake. So all you mongs are actually lying, knowingly, being agents of degradation and destruction of your own societies. Islam brings no improvement to any society in the West or anywhere else, only degradation, stupidity, superstition, clannish fragmentation and violence. There is not one positive contribution Islam can make to Western societies. Islam's influence is to re-primitivise any society it infects.i |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Yadda on Sep 29th, 2018 at 10:10pm Frank wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 9:05pm:
Agree Frank. 100 % Re-primitivise, and, brutalise. Google; Germany: “Southerner” goes on knife rampage, seriously injuring three, cops search for motive Robert Spencer on Sep 28, 2018 Google; site:http://www.jihadwatch.org/ police "search for motive" |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Yadda on Sep 29th, 2018 at 10:19pm Yadda wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 6:18pm:
A differing POV..... Quote:
THE RELIGION OF PEACE http://thereligionofpeace.com/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 12:48am
Speaking of self-expression, here's the old boy weighing in on terror attacks in Europe.
Backward, primitive, tinted. They might do 2% of the attacks, but they're not improving anything. I like Danish. I blame Islam. Frank wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 9:05pm:
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:53am Karnal wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 8:22pm:
It's Greg's claim, not mine. If he is too scared to back it up, that's good enough for me. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by issuevoter on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:09am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 5:40pm:
I didn't think you would. Not because you don't want to; because, as I said, elsewhere, you haven't got anything. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:55am Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds "Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report. "A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016. The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 9:16am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:55am:
"The vast majority of terrorist attacks in E.U. countries have for years been perpetrated by separatist organizations." Less Than 2 Percent Of Terrorist Attacks In The E.U. Are Religiously Motivated " ... in the last five years, less than 2 percent of all terrorist attacks in the E.U. have been “religiously motivated.” "In 2013, there were 152 terrorist attacks in the EU. Two of them were “religiously motivated.” In 2012, there were 219 terrorist attacks in EU countries, six of them were “religiously motivated.” "In 2011, not one of the 174 terrorist attacks in EU countries in 2011 were “affiliated or inspired” by terrorist organizations. "2010, 249 terrorist attacks, three of them were considered by Europol to be “Islamist.” In 2009, of 294 terrorist attacks, only one was related to Islamist militancy ..." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 30th, 2018 at 9:24am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 9:16am:
Nice to know the security system is keeping those minority Muslim terrorists under tight control... it's a start anyway...... easier to just ban them entirely for safety's sake.. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 12:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 9:16am:
A total misrepresentation of those Europol reports. What these reports actually say: The first paragraph of the 2014 report: The terrorist threat in the EU remains acute and diverse. The largest proportion of terrorist attacks in the EU was related to separatist groups, although the number significantly decreased in 2013 compared to previous years. Most separatist incidents, however, were small-scale. The majority of EU Member States continue to consider religiously inspired terrorism as a major threat, as evidenced by the significant increase in the number of arrests. In 2013, 535 individuals were arrested for offences related to terrorism, a number similar to 2012 (537). Most of the arrests occurred in France (225), Spain (90) and the UK (77). A continuous increase in the number of arrests for religiously inspired terrorism has been observed since 2011, whereas arrests for separatist terrorism have significantly decreased. In 2013, as in the previous year, all court decisions in Austria, Belgium and the Czech Republic concerned religiously inspired terrorism. In 2013 left-wing terrorism verdicts received the highest average prison sentence (18 years), followed by separatist terrorism verdicts (13 years). These average prison sentences were considerably higher than the averages reported in 2012 (8 and 9 years respectively). The average prison sentence given for religiously inspired terrorist offences in 2013 decreased to 4 years, compared to 6 years in 2012. Etc, Etc, Etc |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 12:55pm Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds "Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report. "A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016. The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”. "The vast majority of terrorist attacks in E.U. countries have for years been perpetrated by separatist organizations." Less Than 2 Percent Of Terrorist Attacks In The E.U. Are Religiously Motivated " ... in the last five years, less than 2 percent of all terrorist attacks in the E.U. have been “religiously motivated.” "In 2013, there were 152 terrorist attacks in the EU. Two of them were “religiously motivated.” In 2012, there were 219 terrorist attacks in EU countries, six of them were “religiously motivated.” "In 2011, not one of the 174 terrorist attacks in EU countries in 2011 were “affiliated or inspired” by terrorist organizations. "2010, 249 terrorist attacks, three of them were considered by Europol to be “Islamist.” In 2009, of 294 terrorist attacks, only one was related to Islamist militancy ..." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
You have referenced only one of these quotes (Beenish Ahmed's story in the ThinkProgress (natch) :D) and I have shown how your Ahmed completely misrepresented the Europol reports on which her 'report' was supposedly based. She also restricts herself to 2012-13 to slant heer defence of her fellow Muslims. I expect the same sort of distortion and misrepresentation for all your other quotes. https://www.statista.com/statistics/746578/number-of-arrested-terror-suspects-in-the-european-union-eu/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:05pm Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds "Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report. "A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016. The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”. "The vast majority of terrorist attacks in E.U. countries have for years been perpetrated by separatist organizations." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/terrorism-right-wing-america-muslims-islam-white-supremacists-study-a7805831.html Less Than 2 Percent Of Terrorist Attacks In The E.U. Are Religiously Motivated " ... in the last five years, less than 2 percent of all terrorist attacks in the E.U. have been “religiously motivated.” "In 2013, there were 152 terrorist attacks in the EU. Two of them were “religiously motivated.” In 2012, there were 219 terrorist attacks in EU countries, six of them were “religiously motivated.” "In 2011, not one of the 174 terrorist attacks in EU countries in 2011 were “affiliated or inspired” by terrorist organizations. "2010, 249 terrorist attacks, three of them were considered by Europol to be “Islamist.” In 2009, of 294 terrorist attacks, only one was related to Islamist militancy ..." https://thinkprogress.org/less-than-2-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-in-the-e-u-are-religiously-motivated-cec7d8ebedf6/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:05pm freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:53am:
He has backed it up, FD. It's your claim that it's false. Now, will you attempt to back up your claim or are you too scared? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:11pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:05pm:
He 'backed it up' with a single reference to Beenish Ahmed's story in the ThinkProgress (natch) :D) and I have shown how Ahmed completely misrepresented the Europol reports on which her 'report' was supposedly based. She also restricts herself to 2012-13 to slant her defence of her fellow Muslims. The rest of Turd's quotes are not backed up and I expect the same sort of distortion and misrepresentation for of them as with the Ahmed nonsense. https://www.statista.com/statistics/746578/number-of-arrested-terror-suspects-in-the-european-union-eu/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:13pm Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 12:32pm:
Here's how you do it, FD. The old boy's having a go. His source says religious terrorism is still less than left-wing and separatist terrorism, but the religious (Muslim) threat appears to be growing. Would you like to have a go? You can paraphrase Abu if you like. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:14pm Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds Less Than 2 Percent Of Terrorist Attacks In The E.U. Are Religiously Motivated 1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/terrorism-right-wing-america-muslims-islam-white-supremacists-study-a7805831.html 2. https://thinkprogress.org/less-than-2-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-in-the-e-u-are-religiously-motivated-cec7d8ebedf6/ ;) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:17pm Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Good show. Your statistics show the number of Muslim terrorist crimes. Do you have a similar statistic for separatist attacks? FD won't say. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:19pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
We know about Amerika, Greggery. We're onto Europe. The old boy claims your study focuses on only one year. Is this correct? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:27pm Europe: "In 2013, there were 152 terrorist attacks in the EU. Two of them were “religiously motivated.” "In 2012, there were 219 terrorist attacks in EU countries, six of them were “religiously motivated.” "In 2011, not one of the 174 terrorist attacks in EU countries in 2011 were “affiliated or inspired” by Islamist terrorist organizations. "2010, 249 terrorist attacks, three of them were considered by Europol to be “Islamist.” "In 2009, of 294 terrorist attacks, only one was related to Islamist militancy .” |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:36pm
The Reveal report referenced by the Independent is long and detailed 9much more than the Ahmed whitewash attempt in defence/downplay of Muslim terrorists in Europe.
But I do notice that the claims turd is making with reference to the Reveal report are hugely slanted: A 2011 Heritage Foundation study, based on terrorism data collected by the RAND Corp., found that between 2001 and 2009, there were 91 homegrown terrorist attacks of all kinds against the United States, while there were 380 terrorist attacks against U.S. targets abroad. This is important and obvious. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:27pm:
Thanks, Greggery. I think that settles that. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:45pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/746590/number-of-attacks-of-nationalist-and-separatist-terror-in-the-european-union/ A lot fewer, and as the Europol report states, decreasing and small-scale. The 2014 Europol report I referenced says that there were NO 'right-wing' terrorist attacks in EU member states in 2013 while the Reveal report about the US is full of references to 'right-wing' terrorist. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:49pm Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Most obvious. The US has forces in a number of foreign countries. Now onto Europe, is there anything you disagree with in Greggery's figures and his claim that most European terrorism is not Moslem? You've tried the yeah-but it's getting worse. You've tried saying the stats are compiled by a Muslim, thus skewed. You've tried saying yes but Muslim bombings are worse than separatist or white supremacist bombings. Why? Well, they're motivated by Islam, of course. So is there anything you can hold up to prove Greggery's claim false? FD tried, but had to go away. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:53pm Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Indeed. This highlights the problem of being selective with your years. Nationalist terrorism is on the rise in Europe, as every schoolboy knows. Quote:
You know it too. You blame Islam, no? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:57pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
The ThinkProgress (!!!!) hatchet job has been discredited as a complete ,misrepresentation of the Europol reports is supposedly based on. Do you have any real basis for these claims? And why are you stopping at 2012? It's 2018. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:07pm
Once again, for those with early onset dementia:
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So yes, while the threat from jihadists is increasing, so are the ethno-nationalists. Do you want them screened at the airport too, old boy? They're British. Quote:
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:13pm
Don't you worry, old boy. FD had to attend to an important errand. When he comes back, he'll prove the 2017 statistics false, you'll see.
Jihadists: 33. So-called "nationalists": 137. No graffiti, these were planned or implemented bombings, arsons or mass killings. All a big mistake, I'm sure. When FD comes back, we'll be able to blame Islam again. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:25pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
For a reasonable person, yes. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Secret Wars on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm
As usual in these things its informative to look a bit beyond the raw statistics which makes all events equal even those without fatalities.
If however you look at fatalities, and from 2001 in Europe the fatalities are from Islamist attacks, 597, right wing 87, of which 77 belonged to Anders Brevik and nationalist is 46. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
So the Irish are throwing bricks at each other every second day - SO MUSLIM TERRORISM is less of a problem in Europe coz they only drive buses into crowds 4 times a year and knife shoppers only once a month. If you look at any of the Europl reports you will see that jihadi terrorism is a much bigger concern to the EU than 'ethno-nationalist terrorism because the latter is very localised and very small scale whereas the Muslim threat is widespread and deadly and NOT about any local issues but is motivated by an imported ideology. By your and Turd's idiotic reasoning, rape and murder are much less of a concern because there is a lot FEWER of them than traffic offences or petty thefts. As if one crime is the same as another crime and only the numbers matter. This is typical Turd/Bwian mindset. And he will repeat it forever, just to make sure nobody has any doubt about just what a stupid, dishonest ijit he really is. And the Paki kibitzer is there to grin and clap and egg him on.i |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:40pm Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Decreasing. Perhaps you could explain the EU's reported increase, old boy. If you can't, it may be worth conceding the actual facts, rather than exercising the sort of backward, tribal, superstitious balderdash you accuse the Muselman of. Or are porkies progressive? FD won't say. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:50pm Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
So the Irish are throwing bricks at each other every second day - SO MUSLIM TERRORISM is less of a problem in Europe coz they only drive buses into crowds 4 times a year and knife shoppers only once a month. If you look at any of the Europl reports you will see that jihadi terrorism is a much bigger concern to the EU than 'ethno-nationalist terrorism because the latter is very localised and very small scale whereas the Muslim threat is widespread and deadly and NOT about any local issues but is motivated by an imported ideology. By your and Turd's idiotic reasoning, rape and murder are much less of a concern because there is a lot FEWER of them than traffic offences or petty thefts. As if one crime is the same as another crime and only the numbers matter. This is typical Turd/Bwian mindset. And he will repeat it forever, just to make sure nobody has any doubt about just what a stupid, dishonest ijit he really is. And the Paki kibitzer is there to grin and clap and egg him on. [/quote] Is see. So ethno-nationalist attacks are greater in number and on the rise, but they're not a concern, eh? Cunning. So let's see. You've tried FAKE news, the old switcheroo and now, it's okay, they're one of us. They grew here. One strategy you haven't used yet is no-speaka-da-English. Try that one, old boy. But I'm curious. Given your own white supremacism is also imported (you flew here), can you see how some of us might take it as a bit of a threat? You can translate that into Danish if it makes it any easier to understand. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:04pm Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
... until you can find something - ANYthing - to make yourself feel good about your irrational fear & hatred of Muslims. Yes, we know dear. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - greggp Post by Secret Wars on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
Doesn't matter if you cross it out, it ain't bringing any of them back to life, it's not like graffiti where you can just paint over it. Different universe of equivalency innit. ::) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - greggp Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:21pm Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Actually, you raise a good point, Secret. You're right. While the ethno-nationalists do the most attacks, the big Jihadist attacks, by far, have resulted in the most terrorist killings. However, something that is not listed in these figures: lone attacks, or hate crimes. These too are on the rise in Europe. The assault or murderer of individuals such as immigrants, Gypsies and even hommers, has caused untold death and injury. Hate crimes are excluded in the European terrorism figures, unlike the US. Paki-bashing in the U.K, or in Russia, Chechen-stabbing, is a popular past-time. Attacks on immigrant businesses are also prevalent. One fact worth noting is that Russian terror attacks and hate crimes are not listed in the EU figures, but this is a huge problem there. FD? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - greggp Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:21pm:
The hommer bashing is done by Muslim 'youths', as is the Jew-bashing and sexual assaulting of 'cat's meat', both seriously on the rise in Europe wherever the cultural enrichment brought by Muslim 'youths' is enjoyed. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:23pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:55am:
Greg, from your own link: More people died in the Islamist incidents, a total of 90 due to mass shootings like the one in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009. And this from a country with a tiny Muslim minority, covering a time period that excludes 9/11. Would it be fair to conclude that even among terrorists, Muslims set a new low? Also, far more Islamist attacks were thwarted by police. BTW, did you know that America is not Europe? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 5:08pm freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:23pm:
I did not know that. That would probably explain why I couldn't find the Eiffel Tower the last time I was in Chicago. I'm a silly duffer ::) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Sep 30th, 2018 at 5:59pm
How many people died, and will continue to die, because of 9-11?
Does greggy, our local online pretend terrorist, know the answer? ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - greggp Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:18pm Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:
Not at all, old boy. Attacks on hommers and Allah Uakbarrring Pakis are carried out by your jolly crowd, and why not? You regularly incite fear and loathing of these groups. Pull off their veils, decry their deviancy and apologise for all those who go in with the boot. And indeed, the FBI describes this phenomenon happening all over the USA. Now I doubt Russia would count hate crimes, but I'll bet you this phenomenon is quietly sanctioned there. You have recommended it be sanctioned here, and you have the same reactionary mentality. Miserable, cranky and intolerant of all that's not Danish. Come to think of it, Danish is the only thing you've said here you like. Danish, and good old Mother England. Oh, why do they refuse to assimilate? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:21pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 5:08pm:
He's got you there, Greggery. He'll be asking you what sound a jellyfish makes next. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 5:59pm:
Good question, Death. The estimates are around 3000 in New York, and over 200,000 in Iraq. Not racist. Muslims are not a race. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:39pm freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:23pm:
No, FD, the thwarted attacks are included in the statistics we're been discussing here. Terrorist plots are counted too. In many ways, this only goes to show how cunning your Muselman really is. With the exception of Anders Breivik, the European terrorist death toll was largely caused by the big reported shootings and bombings. Madrid, Brussels, the London Tube, etc. Along with Breivik, they account for 97% of the death toll Plots like the recent attempt to blow up a refugee centre in Germany, are largely foiled, as are most of the Musel ones. As the old boy says, these plots are localised, without the organisation and global reach of groups like ISIL and al Qaida. These groups also have a large stash of young men, keen to enter the afterlife. The skinheads, bin-straighteners and good old boys don't have that. The best they can do is shiv some tinted commuter and run. Europe doesn't count that. That's classed as a hate crime, not terrorism. Remember the prophecy though. The reactionary groups are stockpiling. As we're constantly warned by posters like Herbie, Moses, Yadda and Homo, the Muslims and their apologists will get theirs. In the fullness of time. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:43pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:39pm:
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - greggp Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:50pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
You are lying, of course. A recent Israeli Diaspora Affairs Ministry report on global antisemitism says that more than half the “refugees” in Western Europe hold antisemitic views. In Sweden, France, Germany, the Netherlands, mass immigration has brought with it a rise in anti-Jewish attacks and intimidation. In Paris last month an 85-year-old Shoah survivor, Mireille Knoll, was stabbed to death and her body burned by a young Muslim. Last year, a man shouting “Allahu akhbar” beat up Jewish schoolteacher Sarah Halimi and threw her to her death out of her Paris apartment window. In the Paris suburbs, French children wearing kippot or the uniform of their Jewish school have been beaten and knifed; two Jewish men were recently attacked with a hacksaw in a volley of antisemitic abuse. BEYOND JEW-HATRED, many Muslim migrants either have extremist Islamist views or pose a threat of social violence or disorder. A German government study published in January found that male migrants may be responsible for more than 90% of the country’s recent increase in violent crime. In Sweden, a leaked report last year revealed there were now 61 “no-go zones” where Islamist extremists had taken over. Sweden’s national police commissioner, Dan Eliasson, has pleaded “Help us, help us!” and warned that the police can no longer uphold the law. Across Europe, the entire political establishment has for years turned a blind eye to the mass immigration of Muslims and the steady march of Islamization. As a result of this political and cultural disenfranchisement, the people of Europe are turning to parties outside the political establishment which promise an end to uncontrolled immigration. For this, such voters are dismissed as bigots and xenophobes. The aggressive or antisemitic behavior by many migrants is ignored or denied. Instead, those who want to stop this influx are demonized as racists and antisemites. https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/The-toxic-reality-of-antisemitism-in-Europe-549675 The jews are reporting that they are increasingly victimised by Muslims in Europe. Who you gonna believe? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:56pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 5:08pm:
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. What do you think is the best measure of terrorist threat? Total death toll? Does it surprise you that Muslims achieve a higher death toll even when they only make up a tiny minority? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:02pm
FD, you are interpreting stats. That is very bad and bigoted, tut tut. Western bias and Islamophobia right there.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:03pm freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
Best measure? As Yadda will gladly tell you, every terrorist is a terrorist. Why have you suddenly introduced death tolls? That's not what we were discussing. It's almost as if you're trying to steer the conversation away from the fact that the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims. Of course, you'd never stoop that low, would you? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:04pm
Some confusion here between terrorist acts and terrorist incidents...... an 'incident' can be a nasty phone call or a hate letter...... an act is far more serious... Muslime carry out far more ACTS that kill more people - end of discussion.
Like all this insane rubbish about 'domestic violence', 'reported rape', 'unequal pay' etc - there are so many different little things DELIBERATELY lumped in to make the numbers look extreme that the issue itself is no longer recognisable... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - greggp Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:04pm Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
I say, dear boy, now that's devious. Here we were thinking all those attacks on Jews and Pakis and hommers were carried out by you Nazis (all good, clean fun, of course). But no, it turns out it was the Muselman all along. Diabolical. Who are you going to believe? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:05pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
We've discussed all that. It's krap. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:09pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:03pm:
He never said that, Greggery. All FD's done here is pose pertinent questions in an attempt to get us to think. He might have also blamed Islam, but I think he got away with it. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:03pm:
I'm happy to discuss European terror statistics if you want. I didn't make you bring up the American stats. What do you think is more important, the number of separate attacks, or the death toll? Would you for example place any significance in a statistic that equated 9/11 with an attack in which a single person died? Is this why it took you so long long to produce any evidence, and why you always produce different evidence? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:12pm freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
Sorry, do you mean a higher death toll than the US military? You missed this question, FD. Homo hates it when kids are blown to bits at a pop concert. He's okay when Uncle does it from a helicopter. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:15pm freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:11pm:
Excuse me, FD, there seems to be some confusion here. Could you just clarify which group conducts the most terrorist attacks in Europe? Cheers. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:17pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:15pm:
Which class of terrorism has killed the most people since 9/11 karnal? That's what you should be asking. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:20pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:17pm:
Why? That's not what we're discussing. You love changing the subject when you're losing an argument, don't you Homo? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
I'm sorry but if some asshole chucks a pigs head at a mosque I couldn't give a crap. When little girls are blown to bits at a pop concert then that gets my attention. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:23pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:17pm:
You must have missed the rest of this thread where we've explained just that, Homo. An easy mistake to make. But why is that now the question in a thread titled, "most terror attacks in Europe, non Moslem, says Greggery"? Could it be that Greggery has now proved his claim? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:25pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:22pm:
You don't give a crap about terrorism? Ah. There we have it, folks - an admission. Homo is the ultimate apologist for terrorists. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:26pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:22pm:
Now now, don't fib, Homo. When little girls are blown to bits at a pop concert by a Moslem - that gets your attention. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:26pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:23pm:
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:29pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:23pm:
Homo has a history of this sort of thing. When a little girl was being textually abused by the media, and several forum members here, he claimed that the girl in the Adam Goodes incident was treated worse, therefore, it was okay to bully that 9 year old girl who didn't stand for the national anthem. Homo is so brave. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:30pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
stay on topic muppet. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:31pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:15pm:
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:33pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
What sort of person textually abuses a 9 year old girl? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
You lefties got a girl arrested and shamed on national tv. Nasty f u ckers. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:34pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Stop what, Homo? I've quoted from the most recent EU report on terrorism in Europe. Would you like me to quote something else? Mein Kampft, perhaps? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:38pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:34pm:
So how many people have the skinheads killed in Europe Karnal? If you want to take that line then provide some facts. The time for broad statements is over. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:45pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
Oh, look: Homo is changing the subject again. ::) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:45pm
No, it's not, Homo. The question asked by Yadda is how many terrorist attacks are non-Moslem? He was saying how evil Greggery is for quoting European statistics.
Now, here's a question that goes to your willingness to tell the truth. FD won't do it, nor will the old boy. Who conducts the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe? You don't have to look too hard. Greggery has already provided the answer. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:06pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:45pm:
From when. 1900 or now. And which country? Why say all of Europe? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Bobby on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:11pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
Greggy has to decide - You're either with us or you're with the terrorists. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:56pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:06pm:
Because that's Yadda's criteria, silly. Europe has a thing called the EU, which carries out these sorts of studies. Go from 1900 if you like, but you might want to look at one year - shall we say 2017? FD wouldn't do it - too scared he said. You? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:58pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Which ones, Bobby? The minority, or...? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2018 at 11:00pm
Muslims are murdering people in the name of Islam/Mohammed. They do it because it's in Islam and Mohammed's example to all the Muslims to murder people.
Islam is the religion of violent, murderous coercion. It is invading the West with a view to conquer and subdue and it must be repelled and defeated, as it was in 1683. Islam is an infection. Get vaccinated. i |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Sep 30th, 2018 at 11:12pm
But the white supremacist bin-straighteners are murdering the tinted races to keep us on our toes.
We know you support banning and carpetbombing them, old boy. You've said this many times. But do you concur with your white nationalist brothers from the north? Ban them? Kill them? Cesterete them? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 1st, 2018 at 2:32am
Look again at the definitions of 'terrorist act' and 'terrorist incident'... and stop confusing the two.... and stop piling the two together to create a false impression, like Peccary does.
Bloody amateurs.... There are real men out there who have to take the real bastards down - they have funny hairdos and often wild moustaches and sideburns.... but they're men who know the difference. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 1st, 2018 at 2:33am Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
So bombing a bunch of arseholes who kill more of their own to reduce their killing of their own is now the same as allowing the same arseholes to kill innocent people everywhere? Get a life, man.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Bobby on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:07am Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:58pm:
Let Greggy tell us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyTdMgBMam0 |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:10am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Greg why are you afraid to discuss the very statistic that you keep bringing up and which is the topic of this thread? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:29am Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:45pm:
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:07am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:29am:
You can't look at Europe as a whole Karnal. Individual countries have different issues. The Ukraine for instance doesn't have Muslims. So it doesn't have Islamic terrorism. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:15am Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:07am:
Apart from the 1 million Muslims living there (and the 160 or so Mosques). Oh, and it's Ukraine - not The Ukraine. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:44am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:15am:
It isn't 1 million. Try halving that. Give up. You look silly. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:50am
For Pecca- wiki
Due to the 2014 Russian annexation of Crimea and the War in Donbass, which is fought near Donetsk and Luhansk, 750,000 Muslims (including half-million Crimean Tatars) are living in territory no longer controlled by Ukraine. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:58am Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:44am:
You said there were no Muslims there. Now you're saying there's half a million. Which is it? I'm curious. Oh, and in case you were wondering: "Ukraine has around 1 million Muslims ..." (2016) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:58am:
That's according to some Sheik Pecca. I wrote the wrong thing accidently. I meant there is hardly any Muslims there. I'll cop it on the chin. Like it said, you need to take it on a individual country basis. When they mention Australian Islamic Terrorism they don't call it Australasian Islamic Terrorism. It's not too much to ask. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:05pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:07am:
So, these people are really Christians then? "Over 30 Ukrainian Muslims’ religious and social organisations that had their signatures already listed under the Ukrainian Muslims Charter, signed Ukrainian Muslims Social Conception (UMSC) on 11 December 2017." MUSLIMS OF UKRAINE |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:07pm
wiki first paragraph-
Islam is the fourth-largest religion in Ukraine, representing 0.6%–0.9% of the population.[1][2] The religion has a long history in Ukraine dating back to the establishment of the Crimean Khanate in the 15th century. Sunni Islam of the Hanafi school is the largest non-Christian religion in Ukraine, and the majority of Ukrainian Muslims are Crimean Tatars. Other Turkic peoples indigenous to Ukraine, predominantly found in South and south-east Ukraine, practice other forms of Islam. These include Volga Tatars, Azeris, North Caucasian ethnic groups and Uzbeks.[2] In 2012 an estimated 500,000 Muslims lived in Ukraine, including 300,000 Crimean Tatars.[3] |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:07pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:02pm:
I originally said the western world, and I'm right. The majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims. This is an undeniable fact. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:09pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:07pm:
Half a million is "hardly any"? ;D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Tim Neanderthal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:15pm
Most terror attacks in Europe nowadays, non-communist.
But see somewhere, sometimes, most are. :( |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:17pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:09pm:
Well considering a load of them live in the part of Ukraine which is no longer controlled by Ukraine it is. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:20pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:17pm:
How many times do you want to shift those goal posts, Homo? First it was "I meant hardly any". Now it's "I meant controlled by". Get ya hand off it, tosser ;D Anyway, back to - the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:20pm Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:15pm:
The last 7 of 8 terrorist attacks in Germany have been by Muslims and Pecca believes they are being picked on? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:23pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:20pm:
We're not discussing who carried out the latest attacks. We're discussing the total number of attacks. And, the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims. (how many times can you move those goal posts, Homo?) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:25pm
The last 17 terrorist attacks in France have all been Muslims and Pecca still believes they are being picked on???
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:30pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:25pm: We're not discussing who carried out the latest attacks. We're discussing the total number of attacks. And, the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims. (how many times can you move those goal posts, Homo?) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:34pm
Since 2010 40 UK citizens have been killed and 307 wounded by Islamic nutjobs. The other forms of terrorism have accounted for 3 deaths??? And Pecca still believes Muslims are being picked on???
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:37pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:34pm: We're not discussing deaths. We're discussing the total number of terrorist attacks. And, the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims. (how many times can you move those goal posts, Homo?) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:39pm freediver wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:10am:
FD, why are you so afraid to write down which group carries out the most act of terrorism? I'm concerned for you. I can sense your fear. What's your strategy for dealing with it? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:41pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:44am:
Oh, Homo... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:41pm
Keep apologising cretins. I feel sorry for those littles girls blown apart at that pop concert.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:42pm
Greg what value would you place in a statistic that equates 9/11 with a single death?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:45pm freediver wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:42pm:
A big difference Pecca and Karnal overlook is that other forms of current terrorism usually target a certain group or person. The Islamic nutjobs target anybody. It puts it in a category all it's own. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:41pm:
Apologising? I've said on dozens of occasions that I unconditionally and unreservedly condemn all terrorists. You and your fellow conservatives, however, only ever condemn Islamic terrorists. I wonder why. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm:
Because it's current and killing loads of people. ::) I'm not worried about what happened in 1960. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:51pm
Greg would it be fair to say you are afraid to offer your own opinion on the very statistic you keep sprouting?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:54pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:45pm:
This could go on forever ;D "I meant hardly any". "I meant controlled by". "I meant deaths". "I meant a different category of terrorism". |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:55pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Currently, non-Muslims are carrying out terrorist attacks. Yet you still refuse to condemn their actions. I wonder why :-/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:57pm "I meant hardly any". "I meant controlled by". "I meant deaths". "I meant a different category of terrorism". "I meant currently". |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 1st, 2018 at 1:00pm
Well I'm going jewie fishing. You muck mucking around with your silly goalposts.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 1:01pm freediver wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:42pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:25pm:
FD, are you happy with the board you created for spineless squirmers like Homo and the old boy? I remember all your rules for debate, concentrating on facts and discussing the truth, not trying to score dumb points that don't even win an argument, just stall. Greggery has categorically proven that European terrorism is overwhealmingly non-Muslim. Secret and myself have uncovered the fact that, when it all adds up, the Muslim attacks have caused the most death. I have pointed to the argument that white nationalist terrorism is on the rise. I argue that local hate crimes are not counted by the EU as acts of terror, but are equally deadly. My argument is that these hate groups are the biggest threat to our peace since Nazism. You have avoided all participation in the argument. If it wasn't for Greggery, the old boy and myself, we'd have no statistics to discuss. We'd be left with Homo's tit for tat bullsht and your dumb questions. So I'm curious. Is this the sort of debate you now stand for? Why have you given up your old standards since joining the white supremacists? Can't you discuss facts AND have extremist beliefs? Cheers. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 1:02pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:45pm:
You haven't read my posts, now have you, dear? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 1:05pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 1:00pm:
Come back when you've read the thread and know what you're talking about, Homo. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 1:10pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:41pm:
But you don't feel sorry for little girls blown apart by Assad or ISIS. You expect them to keep getting blown apart rather than flee and seek refuge. You're not alone there, Homo. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 1st, 2018 at 1:14pm
Greg what would you think of a person who continually posted the same statistic but was afraid to offer their own opinion on it?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 1:20pm
Freediver, what do you think of a person who refuses to discuss the facts underpinning the debate?
What do you think of a person who refuses to answer questions fundamental to this debate? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Tim Neanderthal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 3:00pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 12:20pm:
>:( You are right, terrorist attacks seems from the people who are unhappy. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by issuevoter on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:07pm
Its not difficult to find the figures on Muzlum atrocities in Europe. But like I said, Greg has nothing remotely comparable to the blood lust of Islam. Not even the IRA, at their most vindictive, came close.
Here is a reference to some of Islam's handy work in Europe. https://www.dw.com/en/madrid-to-manchester-to-barcelona-a-chronology-of-terror-in-europe/a-38949481 |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:13pm issuevoter wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:07pm:
"I meant hardly any". "I meant controlled by". "I meant deaths". "I meant a different category of terrorism". "I meant currently". "I meant blood lust". |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:14pm issuevoter wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:07pm:
How do you find a plot to blow up a refugee centre, Issue? Just one of the majority white-nationalist hack jobs in Europe. Do you think they were just targeting Muslims, or did they have a different goal in mind? FD won't answer this, but do you think it might have something to do with being tinted? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:15pm
Greg, is asking you for your own opinion on your statistics setting the bar a bit too high for you?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:13pm:
You forgot the old boy's, Greggery. "I meant the Muselman." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:16pm freediver wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:15pm:
He's still not answering, Greggery. What do we call this kind of specimen? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:45pm Karnal wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 1:01pm:
Sadly, what you describe as 'right nationalism' is developing largely as a direct result of the attacks by 'outsider' groups invited into Europe to find peace and safety... 'local hate crimes'?? What does that mean? Are Muslim attacks not 'hate crimes'? How often is a citizen of a nation a Muslim responsible for an attack, but not described as a Muslim fanatic? The facts are that in the last few years, Muslim attacks have created the most casualties and are directed at causing as much death and injury as possible - whereas your 'right national' groups generally hold demos and protests.... often against the invasion by groups of non-assimilable outliers who hate their new life so much they want to destroy it. List for me the other than Muslim attacks - and I mean attacks and not just a nasty phone call or a hostile letter from the IRA - that have killed and injured people in Europe..... list for me the date, the number killed and so forth - then list for me the Muslim attacks. Playing silly verbal games with statistics of people's lives is not a joke... just you and Greg try stating the simple truth, and stop playing with yourselves. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:50pm Karnal wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Most murders in the United States are carried out by Americans.... so that means the odd Musso Religious-based Massacre is meaningless... Most Mexicans killed over drug wars are Mexicans...... so no or only a few Mussos have responsibility Most English football thugs are English.... so Mussos aren't a big deal in football thuggery... Anyone can make a stupid statement of nothing.... Greg is being asked for his opinion on the statistics he's offered.... an interpretation based on fact - but Greg is frightened to do so, since it blows holes in his own basic premise, of suggesting that Mussos are nothing to worry about, despite the reality that they killed far more people than any other organised group. Note the term 'organised group' - take away your gang-bangers and your lone crazed gunpersons, and you're not left with too much else to consider.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by issuevoter on Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:12pm Karnal wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:14pm:
OK Give us the stats, and compare them to the atrocity numbers committed by your people. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:16pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:50pm:
The majority of terrorist attacks, in the western world (Europe, North & South America, Australia, NZ, etc.), are carried out by non-Muslims. What part of this don't you understand? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Bobby on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:20pm Let Greggy tell us: either you're with us or you're with the terrorists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyTdMgBMam0 |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:25pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Why does Princess Gobby make excuses for non-Muslim terrorists? Is Gobby a terrorist sympathiser? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:42pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:45pm:
You think poofter and Paki bashers are a verbal game, do you? You think the Muselman made them do it? Cunning. That's like saying the Muselman makes FD tell porkies. Now you do the right thing and read our previous posts if you have any more questions. Homo's ploughing through the thread as we speak. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:44pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:16pm:
Now now, we don't know about Australia and NZ, Greggery. Canada maybe. I remember a white terror attack there last year, I think. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:49pm issuevoter wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 7:12pm:
You go back and read the thread too, Issue. From memory, it's 157 to 33 in whitey's favour. Read this thread for details. That's why we provide them, dear. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Bobby on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:25pm:
All the terror attacks I know about are from Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:52pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Yes, but you're an ignorant Islamophobe who watches Channel 7 "News". |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 1st, 2018 at 9:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 8:16pm:
Oh look, there's that statistic again that Greg is afraid to have his own opinion on. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Bobby on Oct 1st, 2018 at 9:22pm
So who are you with Greggy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyTdMgBMam0 |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 1st, 2018 at 10:10pm freediver wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 9:11pm:
Indeed. It's the statistic you're too scared to acknowledge. Can I ask you a question? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by issuevoter on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:57pm
George W. Bush is part of the problem. He tried get people to believe 911 was orchestrated by Saddam to protect his Saudi oil interests. He also said publicly that Islam is a religion of peace, which is a bare-faced lie. Then he had the Sauds over for big ol' Texas BBQ.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:26am issuevoter wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 11:57pm:
What does that have to do with European terrorism, Issue? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:13am Karnal wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Most terrorist KILLINGS and INJURINGS are carried out by Muslims these days.... the past is the past, and most terrorist 'incidents' are innocuous and include rallies, phone calls, internet posts, and public utterances without any practical outcome, and include suspicions of particularly 'right' wing groups that often develop due to the problem of Muslims and other non-European groups. Do you include every Muslim rally threatening beheadings as a 'terrorist incident' - yet include every 'right wing' protest as a 'terrorist incident'? Is not threatening life and limb for non-acceptance of an alien tenet an act of terrorism? The IRA primarily contents itself with phone threats etc these days - the UDA is never heard of (still there though) - yet thes eare included as 'terrorist incidents', and given the same value as killing and injuring hundreds innocent teenagers at a concert. What part of most terrorist KILLINGS and INJURINGS are at the hands of Muslims these days do YOU not understand?? Give me a specific figure for EACH separate group of OTHER types... you have no entitlement to lump all other groups into one - that's just a lie by another name. How many such attack and kill cartoonists at Mohamed Hebdo, or suicide bomb a Muslim rock concert, or crash a truck into strollers in London and then set upon them with knives...? And so on and so on and so on.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:24am
Correct your position and your statement - most terrorist attacks up until recent times have been non-Muslim in origin.....
Holding on to the past is no way to approach the problems of today.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:34am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:24am:
Nothing to correct. Most terrorist attacks "today" are carried out by non-Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:06pm
He Greg, what value do you place in a statistic that equates 9/11 with a single death?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:10pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:34am:
Show me the list ....... but first define 'today' for the purposes of discussion.... today doesn't mean all those years ago..... what's the lime limit? Let's try the past two years for a start........ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:14pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:10pm:
Most terrorist attacks from the last two years were carried out by non-Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:18pm
Greg would you agree that a statistic that equates 9/11 with a single death is likely to be misleading?
Why do you keep posting the statistic if you are afraid to give your own opinion on it? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:32pm freediver wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:18pm:
I'm not discussing deaths. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Fuzzball on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:38pm
Pessary 'thinks' (if he's capable of thought) that by repeating the same cr@p over and over again he will convince people that what he spews is true..........as usual he's WRONG!
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 1:00pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:24am:
You sound unhinged, dear. Posting on message boards is not counted in the terrorism statistics. Now you go back, read our posted reports and tell me if I need to correct my position, and why. Cheers. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 1:02pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:10pm:
Again, we've already posted the stats from 2017. FD doesn't want to talk about them. He'd rather ask Greggery what sound a jellyfish makes. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 1:04pm Fuzzball wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:38pm:
Greggery's posted reports would convince anyone, Matty. Except FD. He blames Islam. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Fuzzball on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 1:22pm Karnal wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 1:04pm:
And the Village Idiot enters..........(loud trumpet blast.....) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 1:39pm Fuzzball wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 1:22pm:
You haven't read these reports have you, dear? Strange. One is the EU's own 2017 report on terrorism in Europe. Who'd ignore that? In a thread about terrorism in Europe? Let's see: Homo, Grappler, Matty, the old boy - oh, and FD. Is it because you know the answers already, dear? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 4:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:14pm:
List?? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 5:30pm
Here then is the news for TODAY - not Today Tonight .... and it covers terrorist attacks in Europe in 2018 - I've taken the liberty of including Russia and Chechnya, though some would argue there are not strictly part of Europe - and also Turkey, which is just outside the Pale.......
January 2018 Stabbing 0 Vendin-le-Vieil, France A German prisoner jailed for his involvement in the Djerba bombing in 2002 assaulted four guards at the Vendin-le-Vieil prison while shouting "Allahu Akbar". One of the guards was hospitalized for a head wound. Shooting 1 0 North Mitrovica, Kosovo A drive-by shooting outside an office in North Mitrovica killed the head politician of the Kosovo Serb party called Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Oliver Ivanović. Rocket attack 2 11 Kilis, Turkey Two rockets fired from Syria struck the city of Kilis in southern Turkey, killing two people and injuring eleven others February 2018 Shooting, rocket attack 3 7 Hakkâri Province, Turkey Three Turkish soldiers were killed and seven wounded in cross-border attacks carried out by the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) from northern Iraq, targeting the eastern Turkish province of Hakkâri . Shooting 1 0 Belfast, United Kingdom A man was shot dead in front of his partner and 11-year-old child in Belfast in Northern Ireland, United Kingdom. March 2018 Arsons 0 0 Athens and Thessaloniki, Greece A number of attacks across the country were claimed for a group identified only as 'Anarchists' in an online statement. The group threatened further attacks in the capital Athens. Shooting 1 0 Şırnak Province, Turkey A civilian was killed in an attack by PKK terrorists in the Besta district of Şirnak province Stabbing 0 (+1) 1 Vienna, Austria 2018 Vienna embassy stabbing: An Islamist stabbed and injured a guard at the residence of the Iranian ambassador in Vienna. The attacker was shot and killed Shooting 0 (+1) 1 Grozny, Russia A man with a firearm attacked and injured a police officer in the Chechen capital Grozny. The assailant was killed 23 Shootings, stabbing, hostage taking 4 (+1) 15 Carcassonne and Trèbes, France Carcassonne and Trèbes attack: A gunman affiliated with the Islamic State attacked the French cities of Carcassonne and Trèbes: He attacked and stole a car, killing the passenger and wounding the driver, in Carcassonne. He arrived in Trèbes and during the process a police officer was injured when the terrorist shot him. Then, he attacked a supermarket, where two civilians were killed and several others injured. A policeman exchanged himself for a hostage, was later shot and stabbed and died of his injuries in hospital. The attacker was later killed by the police. Shooting 7 6 Eruh, Turkey Siirt raid Six Turkish village guards were killed in an attack by PKK terrorists in Siirt’s Eruh district. Three village guards and four soldiers were wounded in the attack. One soldier dies from his injury days later Shooting 3 1 Şırnak Province, Turkey At least three soldiers were killed in action, another was injured following a terror attack by the PKK in the southeastern Turkish province of Şırnak May 2018 Stabbing 0 (+1) 2 Neftekumsk, Russia In the Russian city of Neftekumsk, a man attacked two police officers with a knife. As a result, both law enforcement officers were injured. During the arrest, the man resisted and stabbed one of the policemen, after which a policeman shot him dead. Shooting 0 (+1) 3 Nizhny Novgorod, Russia A man started shooting at police officers during a document check in Nizhny Novgorod in Russia, the attacker was killed and three police officers were injured. Bombing 0 0 Chirkey, Russia A bomb exploded at the grave of a Sufi leader killed in a suicide bombing in the village of Chirkey in Dagestan, Russia. The tomb was destroyed, but there were no other victims Stabbing 1 (+1) 4 Paris, France 2018 Paris knife attack: A man stabbed one pedestrian to death and injured four others in Paris, France. The attacker was later killed by the police. Shooting, attempted hostage taking 3 (+4) 2 Grozny, Russia Armed men attacked and attempted to take several hostages in an Orthodox church in Grozny, the capital of Chechnya. At least two policemen and one churchgoer were killed and two other policemen injured in the attack. Four terrorists were eliminated by the security forces Bombing 2 3 Şemdinli, Turkey Two Turkish village guards were killed and three others injured when a roadside bomb planted by PKK terrorists exploded in the Şemdinli district of the Turkish province of Hakkâri Melee attack, stabbing, shooting, hostage taking 4 (+1) 4 Marche-en-Famenne and Liège, Belgium 2018 Liège attack: A man who shouted "Allahu Akbar" stabbed two female police officers, then took their guns and used them to shoot and kill the two officers and a pedestrian in Liège, Belgium. The gunman took a woman hostage before he was killed by police. Four other police officers were wounded, one of whom was seriously injured. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 5:33pm
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August 2018 Arson 0 0 Berlin, Germany A lorry beloging to Deutsche Bahn Schenker was set on fire by anarchists in Wedding district in Berlin in Germany. The attack was in response of the alleged involvement of the bank with in logistics for NATO and the Turkish military in their war against the Kurdish areas Bombing, Attempted Bombing, 0 0 Villorba, Italy A bomb blast near offices of the party Lega Nord in the town of Villorba, Province of Treviso, Italy, an anarchist group claimed resonsibility for the attack. No one was injured in the incident, and other improvised explosive device that did not quite detonate was found and defused. Stabbing 0 (+1) 0 Cornellà, Barcelona, Spain 2018 Barcelona attack: An Algerian man armed with a knife was shot dead in a police station in Cornellà de Llobregat, Barcelona, after shouting “Allahu Akbar” and trying to attack a group of police officers. The Catalan police treated the incident as a “terrorist attack” Stabbing, Suicide bombing 0(+2) 7 (+1) Grozny, Russia A knife attack against a police station left at least seven police officers injured and two terrorists shot dead. Another terrorist was detained when his explosive charge was partially detonated Stabbing 0 2 (+1) Amsterdam, Netherlands 2018 Amsterdam stabbing attack: An Afghan teenager stabbed and injured two Americans in Amsterdam Central Station. The attacker was shot and injured. Police said that the attacker had terrorist motives. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_2018 In worldwide terrorism - the names that massively predominate are Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Nigeria and so forth.... all Islamic nations. Don't let the reality door hit you on the way out.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 5:39pm
The attacks marked in red are Islamic in nature... some are outright Islamist.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:09pm
Not only that, but the number of casualties, dead, injured and traumatised for life, in Islamic attacks far out-weighs every and anything else....
But that's only for 2018..... thank you all for coming, and I expect no reward for my hard work assembling these facts for you... Now let's move on to wage gaps, rape statistics and other false figures....... :o |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:10pm
There's a new one, Greggery. We've moved onto worldwide terrorism.
You might want to post that in Issue's cheery Muslim anniversary thread, Grapper. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:14pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:09pm:
Let's stick with European terrorism, dear. It's not currently at war, like many of the countries in your list. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:21pm Karnal wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:10pm:
Try reading - the items listed singly and marked in RED are ISLAMIC attacks in EUROPE in 2018 - try reading glasses - and the kicker about worldwide is just a sweet little extension to further poison your silliness... You should try reading before leaping to open your mouth.... done like a dinner... Read the entire link before opening mouth.... that way you might be able to see over the two feet stuck in mouth. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Smell the despair and fear...... done by facts..... but still trying to bite my leg off.... The link is Wikipedia's list - I took the liberty of listing separately one at a time EUROPEAN attacks in full - clearly showing a majority of Islamic attacks in 2018 .....IN EUROPE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWlb57OSBlY |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm Karnal wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:14pm:
Lessee now... France, Germany, Turkey, Russia, Spain, Netherlands, Austria, Belgium.... all listed in the itemised list of attacks in EUROPE I posted ... which of those is in a declared war right now? Smell the despair.... the fear.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWlb57OSBlY |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 7:18pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:09pm:
Who started the war on terror? Greg will never answer that question..... ;D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 7:46pm
I used to think that Karnal was a send-up artist and poked fun at people tongue-in-cheek, since some of the stuff he/she posted was so utterly way out in left field... it HAD to be a roast...
I used to think that gregpec liked to play devil's advocate and demand positive statements rather than just an expressed view, whether or not the view was based on any reading of thinking or personal experience.... sometimes he was right, sometimes he was being silly.... Now I consider that both are engaged in some sort of silly online jihad against any opposition to Islamite destruction and taking of life, any feminist non-issue (they have no issue here, today in Oz), and any non-issues for Niqqer and other groups as long as they are not White, and of course, the ancient and long-running Indian rape crisis. Rather than coming out with fully supportable facts and links etc to support their view - they have themselves engaged in mud-slinging as their only approach to issues . I trample on their online bodies.... I would prefer that Karnal (lack of) Knowledge and greg get back into the fold of reality and fairness and reason..... I don't really expect it. Anyway - at least, given the actual number of MUSLIM terrorist attacks in EUROPE - and even though such attacks are the MAJORITY to date - the relatively low number shows that the security services and perhaps the reign of counter-terror generated by the threat of 'right wing nationalist' opposition to Muslim excess, are paying dividends... Striking fear into the hearts of the fear-mongers seems to be working to a great extent.... it seems that the European Jihad is undergoing a beheading of its motivation and impact... couldn't happen to a nicer religious war..... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 7:52pm
They want to take the guns out of the hands of the American citizens: they are the terrorists from within.
Nothing new under the sun... ::) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 7:53pm TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 7:18pm:
War OF Terror or war ON terror? Bush Inc started the War On Terror as a response to the War OF Terror launched by Islamists. Now it seems, to my ever-alert feelers, that the rise of hostility to Muslim excesses in the West and their demands and often violent criminal actions, even outside their European Jihad, are starting to tell..... and they're pulling their heads in. Now we just need Western governments to get onside here, and actually start to condemn and prosecute the actual perpetrators of crimes instead of trying to stifle outrage and protest against those crimes by labeling any objection 'hate crimes'. That kind don't call holding up signs saying to behead unbelievers who will not submit to Islam a Hate Crime - but they will label someone reporting via private internet on the progress of actual criminal proceedings against Muslims as a Hate Crime... No wonder George Orwell was a Brit and saw clearly the situation in BRITAIN (not Russia or any other totalitarian state) that could develop into tyranny and Newspeak etc under a certain style of government. If he'd called the book 2024 he would have been closer to the mark.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 7:57pm Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
A pentecostal Paki speaking in tongues not even he can comprehend. All mad allusion to fantasies in your own head. Here's ten rupee. Carry on, we know you will. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 7:59pm TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 7:52pm:
What happened to the another journey by train chicken? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 8:45pm
Why don't we import a million people a year?
Greggy hasn't got what it takes to answer that! Maybe Pasta-Freak can do it instead.... lol |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 8:47pm Frank wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 7:59pm:
I got bored... i did like that one but! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:17pm Frank wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 7:57pm:
Done, Greggery, the old boy's playing no-speaka-da-English. Didn't take long, eh? I say, old boy, shall I ask you in Danish? Mjiam mjiam. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:19pm TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:
We all do, Death, we all do. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Bobby on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:48pm Fuzzball wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:38pm:
Who is Greggy with? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyTdMgBMam0 |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:29pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:48pm:
You know, son? I'd say anyone who excuses killers is on their side. No one here has excused or minimised Islamicist terrorism. We've even shown the stats that it causes the most terror-related casualties. But to minimise white supremacists, violent hate crimes, Paki and hommer bashers, and plots to kill refugees on mass, is unredeemable. Those who do this here remain unrepentant. Those who pretend these crimes equate to internet posts or graffiti are no more than jellyfish. Homo, Matty, Grappler, the old boy, and good old FD - these types support white European terrorists. How do we know? They refuse to even acknowledge they exist. Why? Because they are part of the plot to ban them, kill them, cesterete them. Which side are you on? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Bobby on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:01am Karnal wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:29pm:
I'm on the side of Bush. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:21am Karnal wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Open your ears, boy! WHEN THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT MUSLIM TERRORIST ACTIONS THAT ACTUALLY KILL PEOPLE ETC, NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR THAT SOMEHOW THE PRESENCE OF OTHER GROUPS HAS ANY RELEVANCE TO THE DISCUSSION. IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS 'OTHER' TERRORISM - OPEN A STRAND ON THAT SPECIFIC GROUP! BUT STOP WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME AND ENERGY ARGUING ENDLESSLY WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SUPPORT YOUR VIEW, AND THE REALITY IS THAT MUSLIMS IN THIS YEAR CARRIED OUT BY FAR THE MAJORITY OF ATTACKS IN EUROPE AND CAUSED BY VERY FAR THE GREATEST NUMBER OF DEATHS AND INJURIES. Now where's my apology for your personal jibes at me, honkie? Just saying - "You were right all along, MR Grappler, and we're sorry for attacking you personally for stating the bleedingly obvious", will do for now..... but neither you nor greg have the guts to say that.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:23am
.. and you are a liar - I never said those groups did not and do not exist.... every time I've discussed terrorism I've referred to 'other' groups, and said quite clearly that their 'terrorist acts' are nowhere near as bad as those of Muslims currently.
You're a liar - and that is another apology you owe me. Anything to suggest you were not wrong - you psychopath. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:32am 1)You haven't read these reports have you, dear? Strange. One is the EU's own 2017 report on terrorism in Europe. Who'd ignore that? In a thread about terrorism in Europe? Let's see: Homo, Grappler, Matty, the old boy - oh, and FD. Is it because you know the answers already, dear? Apology required. 2) There's a new one, Greggery. We've moved onto worldwide terrorism. You might want to post that in Issue's cheery Muslim anniversary thread, Grapper. Apology required. 3)Let's stick with European terrorism, dear. It's not currently at war, like many of the countries in your list. Apology required |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:00am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:32am:
That time of the month is it, love? There there, we understand. You can't be bothered reading the links in this thread. Too hormonal. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Marla on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:54am
So true. Most terror attacks are caused by white male Christians such as Yadda. Oh, I'm more than convinced he is a sleeping cell terrorist just waiting on that phone call.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by aquascoot on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 6:17am
its an interesting pre-supposition.
the islamic faith is a belief system. we need belief systems. the world is so complex that you have to have a belief system or else you just get overwhelmed. and if you get overwhelmed you become anxious and nihilistic and the cortisol and adrenaline that this causes demolishes your health. so EVERYONE has a belief system. but what if we have 2 groups with different belief systems. say russia and the USA circa 1960. well that nearly ended in the demolition of the planet so its a difficult thing to have 2 opposing belief systems that can peacefully occupy the same space. can islam peacefully occupy the same space with the west. good question. maybe, but maybe not. if they are going to then there is going to have to be dialogue. and thats where the left get it all wrong. the left dont understand that the only way to have dialogue is for people to be able to engage in free speech and say exactly what they think. they cant just be shut down and labelled racist or misogynist or whatever and then the dialogue ended. thats actually a bigger problem. the radical left, they dont want to hear from the right AT ALL. they just want to silence them with legislation. and the blow back is that the right are now falling for this belief system as well. both the right and the left are now playing identity politics and people are fracturing along tribal lines. and when they cant speak to each other (and they cant becuase the left will not engage in dialogue with the right), then all that is left is to fight. charlottesville is a much more worrying event then the muslim issue. most muslims have a good belief system based on family and respect for parents etc. the left are nihilistic and lost and the new marxism of the left sees everyone as oppressor or victim. AND the oppressors are not allowed to talk becuase that legitimises their power. its seriously not good. this identity politics as played by obama and clinton led to the blowback that elected trump. and the left and the right cannot talk. you just try and have a conversation with marla or karnal or gweg. its never going to happen. and with this "free speech" shut down, all there is left is to fight. lucky the nihilistic left dont have nukes in my opinion ;) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:30am Marla wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:54am:
Wouldn't surprise me if we had a few of those little cowards in here. No need to name names - everyone knows who I'm talking about. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:23am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:21am:
Did you see the thread title? "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem" Yes. Yes they are. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:52am Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:00am:
No apology for being totally wrong and for throwing jibes at me, then, coward? Gutless little turd. At least greg has backed away from that nonsense in the light of truth thrown on the issue raised - that most terrorist attacks are in fact carried out by terrorists 'today' in Europe - but you're hardly a man, are you.. no guts to say you were wrong and apologise for your silly games. Adios, muchacho... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:54am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:23am:
You're as bad a reader as that idiot Karnal, aren't you? I posted facts for you for 2018 - that's 'today' by any standard - that clearly show the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe 'today' are by Muslims. How many times must it be explained to you - yet you persist with the same lies. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:56am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:52am:
I've backed away from nothing. Most terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:56am
I apologise to the board for saying greg was better than Karnal - both are persisting with the lies that most terrorist attacks today are perpetrated by non-Moslems... when the facts have been presented to show that for 2018 - today - that is false.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:58am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:56am:
You stated Europe and you stated 'today' - you are wrong... Most terrorist attacks in Europe today are carried out by Muslims, and for that matter in the rest of the world today. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:17am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:56am:
Disproven - move on. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:28am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:58am:
That's not true. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:36am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:54am:
You posted extracts from incomplete lists on Wiki. You'll see that they actually admit: - "This is a list of some of the terrorist, alleged terrorist or suspected terrorist incidents which took place in January 2018 ...", and; - "Note that terrorism related to drug wars and cartel violence is not included in these lists." The information you provided is not a comprehensive list of all terrorist attacks. If you had listed the complete list you would see that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:42am aquascoot wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 6:17am:
Yes, Aquascoot, but what the knuckleheads are proposing here is that the conservative belief system, Islam, is responsible for more terrorist attacks than anarchists, national separatists and white nationalists. When it was proven to be the opposite, they showed that the conservative Islam is responsible for more killings. And all we've had since is a fight. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:59am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:36am:
::) ::) The link has the worldwide list - the articles listed at the top of my post are ALL such acts in Europe in 2018 - not just 'Muslim' ones.... the Muslim ones are in red and and Muslims win by a country mile in both number and casualties. Stop obfuscating - you lost. If you wish to challenge Wiki's list - post your own list with link(s)...... I'll try again - list every terrorist incident in Europe in 2018 ('today') - and posit which group it comes from.... as Wikipedia has done..... You can't continue to rely on blind utterances to uphold your position..... try evidence and not just blind links that ramble about some generalised concept... specific list... On the clear evidence for 2018, Muslim terrorist acts far out-weigh all other, singly or combined. Muslims are deep into the drug wars and cartel wars? Wow..... makes a huge difference then, greg.. ::) ::) ::) ::) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:03pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:42am:
greg specified Europe and 'today' - nobody mentioned the US in terms of overall terrorist acts - but worldwide the Muslims are leading in 2018, anyway.... and just because the West has better security services and arrests more (there is a chart of arrest for terrorism which Muslims also lead), doesn't mean that Muslims are minority terrorists in 2018. You need aso to get your mind around simple things - in war a soldier can still be charged with murder - in any war, a terrorist act remains a terrorist act... simply citing that a country at war mitigates terrorism is not valid. When a suicide bomber in Kabul attacks a wedding party and kills 82 civilians - that is clearly an act of terrorism and not of war.... get it right. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:13pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:52am:
You know, Grappler? For all your hostility, you post some excellent research. I haven't forgotten the DV research you posted from America. It said most of the violence was two-sided or initiated by DV victims. I still think about this research in my work. You raise a good point here too, but you need to read others' research too, if you're going to engage in proper debate. The EU security agencies themselves report that the majority of terrorist plots and attacks are non-Muslim. The FBI reports the same in the US. Personally, I think it's pretty dumb to question these authorities. Billions are spent preventing terrorism, and most of it is prevented. They both report that Islamicist terrorism, while a major threat, is in the minority. These agencies have different classifications for terrorism. As a law enforcement agency, the FBI focuses on the intent of the crime - to cause fear. The EU focus more on the scope of the crime - public disorder. They also look at connection to a protest group, which the FBI doesn't do. In Europe, hate crimes constitute a different category, as I've argued. Graffiti and internet posts are not included in any of the statistics, although they might be used to prove links to a cause. I agree that hate crimes in Europe are often revenge for Islamicist attacks, but only in the abstract. Hate crimes often target non-Muslim immigrants or gays. I argue that these crimes are on the rise as social media takes hold and more extremists come out of the woodwork. Here on this board, we've also seen many people convert to extremist causes, such as FD. It is my belief that white supremacism is by far the biggest threat to the Western world. We are entering an era similar in nature to the European fascism of the 1920s and 30s. Then, fascism was a response to communism. Now, right-wing extremism is almost solely a response to immigration and race. FD believes that Islam is the biggest threat to Western civilisation. Presumably, he means it's competing to take the West over. I think this is ludicrous. The bigger threat by far is the undermining of our liberties. More important, perhaps, is the attack on reason. People go to great lengths to lie about Islam. Like Orwell said in 1984, freedom is the ability to say that two plus two equals four. By the end of the book, Winston Smith is so defeated he believes that two plus two equals five. This is exactly the position we find ourselves in today, but with people voluntarily acquiescing to the lies. They are active players in it. Rather than the top-down state model of Orwell, the hate and lies today are socially constructed. People are quite willing to give away their belief and suspend their reason. To me, this is the most dangerous threat we face today. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:13pm
I blame Islam.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:15pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:59am:
Grap: it's quite clear in what it says. - "This is a list of some of the terrorist, alleged terrorist or suspected terrorist incidents which took place in January 2018 ...", and; - "Note that terrorism related to drug wars and cartel violence is not included in these lists." I will, however, concede that the majority of Islamic terrorism is carried out by Muslims, if that helps at all. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:33pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:03pm:
Of course it's an act of terrorism, but it's terrorism carried out by parties in the context of civil war. You can't compare Afghanistan or Iraq to Germany. The figures all show that Islamicist terrorism is in the minority compared to other forms of terrorism. The reports all state this. Sometimes, when you look at the data, you can understand the scale of a problem, and this is one of those times. Greggery has good reason for believing most terror attacks in Europe are non-Moslem. He's right. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Bobby on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:39pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Karnal _ who are you with? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:43pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:13pm:
Excellent post! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:11pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:33pm:
At last now you're trying to mount an argument.... So now you want grades of terrorist act, do you? Someone.. Bobby I think.. asked that yesterday or the day before - do you want different classes of terrorist acts, determined by what rules? Number of dead? Number of injured? Size of bomb? Number of guns involved? Knives or guns? Where it took place? A terrorist act is a terrorist act ..... My primary figures relate directly to Europe 'today' as in 2018 - as specified by greg - and greg is incorrect. Most terrorist acts in non-war countries of Europe in 2018 were carried out by Muslims, and in worldwide figures it is about the same. Relying on old and more general links will not help the current situation for anyone, and pedantically repeating over and over and twisting like an eel will not change the facts. Most terrorist acts in 2018 were carried out by Muslims, which presents THE clear and present danger. Most arrests for terrorism worldwide were of Muslim planning terrorist acts or having carried those out. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:13pm
You're the one who made inferences about 'periods', Karnal and who keeps denying facts put before you and preferring to slag the presenter - don't mention 'hostility' with regard to anyone else....
I think you need a long look at yourself first before you start slinging even more mud. Check your hormone balance.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Secret Wars on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:16pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:13pm:
Indeed they do, alakbahing beardy weirdy declares jihad and goes choppy choppy and its nuffin to do wiv Islam. Two plus two equals nuffin to see and if you do see something you're an islamaphobe isn't it. ::) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:18pm
Read your own post - the European agencies approach it from the view of 'public order', meaning that often they do not title an act as terrorist or religion-related or whatever, but persist with the myth that these factors have nothing to do with 'lone, crazed individuals'.
The definition of terrorism used in the list I presented is right there for all to see.... in that link. Rather than it being a case of myself not looking at other things - it is you. Are you suggesting that a pair of ratbags attacking people while screaming Allahu Akbar is a public order issue? Or that the Charlie Hebdo massacre is a public order issue? They are ALL 'public order issues' in some ways - but other factors create of them terrorist acts. I've studied terrorism BTW.... and counter-terrorism and national security. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:19pm Secret Wars wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:16pm:
And who are these people who go to great lengths to lie about Islam, Karnal - and what is their motivation? It looks to me that your view is that anyone who does not accept the 'official' line that Islam is exclusively the religion of peace, is a liar..... so now we live in 1984 where all the news articles are products of Hollywood? Where is your list of terrorist acts in Europe 2018 and to whom they are subscribed?? You need to counter fact with fact..... not just vague references to your 'research'... and you need to stop considering that any view that is not positive to Islam is somehow hatred.... that's a poor excuse for not discussing real issues of life and death for too many to date. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:19pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Your figures are incomplete. - "This is a list of some of the terrorist, alleged terrorist or suspected terrorist incidents which took place in January 2018 ...", and; - "Note that terrorism related to drug wars and cartel violence is not included in these lists." Complete lists show that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe today are carried out by non-Muslims. Most Islamic terrorism, however, is indeed carried out by Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:31pm
You too, greg, counter facts presented with facts - and not just more empty rhetoric and references to outdated links.
Where is YOUR list of terrorist acts 2018 in Europe and to whom are those acts subscribed? LIST! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:19pm:
Muslims do not customarily engage in drug wars or cartel violence in Europe or anywhere else, so your criticism is meaningless. A drug war or cartel violence is usually against a defined enemy and not just an attempt to instill fear in the general populace... it may have that side effect - but that is not a definitive intent. Very few outside of those drug wars and cartel violence are non--players..... whereas the clear intent of terrorist acts is to instill fear in principally non-players and thus exert pressure on government. Not working in Europe, North America or Australia these days for the Muslim adherents to terrorism... in fact the opposite in that they are generating a response of tightened security and arrests and closer scrutiny, not to mention a shoot to kill order. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:44pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:11pm:
No, dear, I don't want to grade acts of terrorism, I'm simply going on the European criteria that is the subject of this thread. If you read our earlier posts, you'd know this. Most of the terrorist incidents we're discussing are thwarted plots - no casualties. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:49pm Secret Wars wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:16pm:
I don't use the word Islamophobe, Secret, nor have I ever minimised or tried to hide Islamicist terrorism. I believe Islamicism is a toxic perversion of the true religion. I also believe white supremacism is a perversion of our core Western principles. Go down that road, and we've lost. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:51pm The official 2018 Europol Report: "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." "Most terrorist attacks carried out in the EU in 2017 were specified as separatist attacks (137 out of 205)." Failed, foiled or completed attacks by affiliation in 2017: - Separatist = 67% - Jihadist = 16% - Left-wing = 12% - Right-wing = 3% - N/S = 2% EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:00pm Just in case anyone missed it. From the official 2018 Europol Report: "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:00pm:
Oh, I think they'll miss it, Greggery. What sound does a jellyfish make? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:51pm:
Strange. Not one graffiti attack on the list. Why would that be? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:08pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:00pm:
General statement.... list please... a little precision and not just a politicised statement... Get the difference? When you find a list of actual events, the real picture emerges from under the pile of political covering.... Do you consider the attempt to install Islamic ways a 'separatist' movement? Perhaps the European police do.... you need to be more specific. What about North African (Muslims) continuing their war against France? Is that an ongoing separatist movement... or just an Islamic movement? Circles within circles, dear.... and sometimes the security services downplay their real targets by throwing some chum into the waters to draw all the other predators..... or distract from the fact that they really want that one big shark ...... Circles within circles.... once you're in you're never out, and once you're out you were never in...... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:10pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:07pm:
Don't be facetious - doesn't say what form the attacks took... LIST!! You cannot posit an argument without supporting fact, no matter how hard you try.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:19pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:08pm:
Another one for your goalpost list, Greggery. The separatists are Muslims. Circles within circles, no? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:23pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:10pm:
I've looked. I can't find a list, just the total numbers. They include bombings and shootings. There is no mention of any graffiti attacks anywhere. So facetious of Europol, I know. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:54pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:10pm:
"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." Jihadists = 16% All other forms of terrorism = 84% Just as I've been saying all along: the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. Or, are you now going to suggest that Europol is lying - it's all one big conspiracy? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 3:17pm
Not at all, Greggery. Grappler's theory is that those ethno-nationalists and separatists are Muslims too.
Not racist, of course. Ethnos are not a race. The latest theory? How do we know Whitey's not just putting up graffiti? If we don't have a list, we can't be sure. So, add the separatists to the Jihadist list, and we're up to about 90% - in the Moslems' favour. And Whitey's 10% is just a few acts of graffiti, nothing to worry about. Problem solved, leftards. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 3:45pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:49pm:
Agreed, but this is where it gets subjective and as individuals we necessarily ascribe different values to the words 'good' and 'evil'. Otherwise their would be no need for any such thing as a so called democracy, would their not? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ** This is where listening skills come to the fore and why femo dic*&^%$s are so dangerous because they belive they know stuff! *** America once believed in free speech for instance..... what a joke it has become lately ;D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 3:47pm
I will not apologise for being white, in other words.... ;)
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 4:06pm TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 3:47pm:
I agree, Death. I don't use the word Islamophobe because I see this phenomenon purely as racism. Either you've got a legitimate beef with Islamicism (and many do, including Muslims themselves) or you target Muslims because they're tinted. I will not apologise for being white. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 4:19pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 4:06pm:
If it wasn't for the Lebbo Sunni and their antics over decades in Australia people would have a better opinion on Muslims. They started the bad image. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 4:21pm
Lebbos, lol: no wonder the abos came out and warned the whole lot of 'em a few years ago: alas, it is too late for them to repair their collective image!
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 6:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:51pm:
Do you even read your links? The Kurds who were divided between Syria,Iran,Iraq, Turkey and Armenia are included in the separatist attacks. The founder and leader of the PKK Abdullah Ocalan is an atheist. Harun Yahya from Turkey tells us about the Kurdish PKK-https://harun-yahya.net/en/Articles/193326/the-pkk-is-an-atheist Can we call Saddam Hussein Al Anfal campaign to exterminate the Kurds in Iraq Islamic terror or was it just plain old Jihad since Al Anfal is what Chapter 8 in the Quran is called? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anfal_genocide When you look at the persecution of the Kurds by muslims i wonder why they became separatists. ::) ::) ::) From your link- Quote:
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 6:59pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:19pm:
The separatists are Muslims. Circles within circles, no? [ There you go again - I never said Muslim poo-heads were separatists - I ASKED THE QUESTION IF THEY WERE VIEWED AS SUCH. Do you know the difference between a statement and a question? Do you have one idea? Try to keep up, difficult though it is for morons like you. Perhaps you could try again... "Do you consider the attempt to install Islamic ways a 'separatist' movement? Perhaps the European police do.... you need to be more specific. What about North African (Muslims) continuing their war against France? Is that an ongoing separatist movement... or just an Islamic movement?" You do read English, don't you? Idiot! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 7:01pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 3:17pm:
Liar. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 7:09pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 6:59pm:
The Islamic state carved out a large chunk of Syria and Iraq to form the Islamic state, i guess we could consider that a separatist movement. Boko Haram in Nigeria, Al Shaabab in Somalia and the Taliban should be considered separatist movements as well. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 7:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 2:54pm:
Simple enough - provide a list - same as I did.... and make sure you include the time period - we are not interested in the IRA fifty years ago... ::) We are discussing here and now and for the sake of genuine discussion - let's make it 2018, the year. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 7:14pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 7:09pm:
What does that have to do with terrorist acts, which are clearly defined? A civil war need not have terrorist acts in it... you cannot simple isolate separatism and terrorism - you need to look at how the separatism is forwarded.... and whether or not it involves actual terrorist acts and not para-military ones. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 7:58pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 7:12pm:
You supplied an incomplete list, from Wiki. Lol ;D The official 2018 Europol Report: "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." "Most terrorist attacks carried out in the EU in 2017 were specified as separatist attacks (137 out of 205)." You see, I was right all along: the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:00pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Except that Africa's not in Europe. Separatists include Basque, Russian Ukraneans and the Irish, who are still at it, according to the EU report. Turkey's not in the EU, so it's a mystery to me why the report mentions separatist Kurds. You? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:14pm
What is the spread of the 'ethno-nationalist' terror attacks, Turd? (Basque and Irish - the rest of the EU can do NOTHING about).
What is the spread of the jihadist terrorists - they are pretty much everywhere that Muslims have been allowed in BECAUSE the EU could have done something about them but did not. But we all know that this far too complex and higher-order thinking for you, Turd - common sense was something you never progressed to - but there it is. You are going to bang on about an irrelevance because that's all you are up to. Bwian is pwoud of you. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:17pm Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:14pm:
The majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. Read the official 2018 Europol Report, and see for yourself. If you think the stats are wrong, take it up with them. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:18pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 7:58pm:
So Muslims now engage in drug wars and cartel wars? List all these attacks for me - same as I did for you.... you may include Muslim drug wars and cartel wars if you wish.... You don't read too good, do you? Other than repeating the same worn-out guff - how about supplying some solid figures and facts? I didn't know Muslims engaged in drug and cartel wars - but you learn something different every day.... in war zones (which does not exclude terrorist acts) such as Afghanistan there indeed drug wars... sometimes they use terrorism to stake their claim.... but as has been explained to you and your henchman - terrorism and such things are not one and the same though they may occasionally overlap in their execution. Give me a list........ been waiting for a long time now - and all I hear is the same old distortions from Karnal and your repeating the same old over and over.... Try arguing with facts and not rhetoric.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:20pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:18pm:
Who said that? Not me. You realise you've just scored a tremendous own goal, don't you? Think abooooouuuut it ... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:22pm Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Funny - in the list of terrorist acts I posted for 2018 - there was one in Northern Ireland, adherence not specified so it could have been a UDA hit but sounded more like someone taking out a 'grass' to me, so it could have no religious overtone, and was not necessarily terrorist as such, could've been an internal feud .... and not one mention of ETA.... they've been quiet for a while now and are long ago over-shadowed by the Madrid bombing by.... Muslims..... Apart from that, the vast majority of 2018 incidents were Muslim in origin...... apart from the drug and cartel wars which are not necessarily the same thing anyway..... big difference between trying to influence a nation's policies by terror and killing off a few opponents in the same crime arena. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:23pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Again - no statement made - a question asked - your power of English is as bad as Karnival's, when you choose it to be. DO Muslims participate in drug and cartel wars? Stop trying to twist what I write.... it makes you as bad as Karnival... Now - distraction attempt aside - where's my list? Or are you accepting the list I posted by default? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:24pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:18pm:
No problem, whatsoever. From the official 2018 Europol Report: "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." "Most terrorist attacks carried out in the EU in 2017 were specified as separatist attacks (137 out of 205)." Failed, foiled or completed attacks by affiliation in 2017: - Separatist = 67% - Jihadist = 16% - Left-wing = 12% - Right-wing = 3% - N/S = 2% Solid figures AND facts. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:25pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:00pm:
I am not surprised it's a mystery to you, PB, thick and agitated and eager for answers though you are. The EU is not Europe, you thick, tendentious Paki. Ukraine, you noticed, was included because it is in Europe but not in the EU. Same for a significant part of Turkey. Have some more kaka and still your beating heart. Share with gweggy, that other incomprehending idiot, your hypochrite reader, your fellow, your brother. Ten rupee coming your way. School teacher, eh?? Say no more.i |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:26pm The last time I checked, 84 was more than 16. Year 9 maths, innit? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:28pm Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:14pm:
The old boy sounds curious, Greggery. Circles within circles, innit. Life is a mystery, no? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:31pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:28pm:
All will be revealed, if he just reads the official 2018 Europol Report. Or, he could believe an incomplete list from Wiki. Hmm, who to believe :-/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:33pm Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Marvellous point, old boy. Does the report actually raise Ukrainean separatism? That was silly old K's example. How mendacious, no? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:35pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:31pm:
The old boy doesn't need to read the report, Greggery. He can just listen to us. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:36pm
You are both avoiding the point - so it is pertinent.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:38pm
Europe is not the EU, Paki.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:39pm Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:36pm:
The point, dear boy, is the title of the thread: "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem". And, it has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that it is indeed true. 84 is more than 16, yes? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:43pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Well, it's complicated. This topic involves complex and higher-order thinking. No-speaka-da-English, no? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:46pm Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Nor is Scotland, dear boy, from where my jolly DNA stems. I always thought Pakistan was a completely different country, but that's just moi. You? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:16pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:39pm:
No no, Y might have meant something completely different, Greggery. Moslems in Europe? Perhaps you meant Moslems in Iraq and Afghanistan, or Moslem white supremacists, or Moslems in the UK Daily Mail, or any of the myriad of other excuses that involve complex and higher-order thinking. The old boy might have a point, no? Perhaps your reading of the Europol report is a tad mendacious. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:20pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Wiki with source references - are you also suggesting that Muslims actively engage in drug wars and cartel wars in Europe? You should really go to Interpol with that information..... As it stands, without your providing a list - mine stands supreme.... Bring your list or get out of the lists...... :-? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:23pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:20pm:
No. Are you? If you aren't, you've just scored a massive own goal. Your figures didn't include those terrorist attacks, remember? ;D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:25pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:39pm:
This is the same kind of crap stats that say 'Australian domestic violence' or violence against Australian women is alarming in the Northern Territory. Separatism is localised. Muslim violence is not, except to say that wherever they happen to establish a foothold violence is not long in following. Your stats are calculated to cover up and conceal, not to illuminate. That is precisely why you bang on about them. In effect you are trying to suggest that muslim terrorism is not a problem in Europe and the West generally. Which is crap. Dishonesty is how you operate. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:29pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:20pm:
Good point, Grappler. Perhaps Greggery should report to Interpol with your info on Iraq and Afghanistan. It may not happen overnight, but it will happen, yes? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:29pm Frank wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:25pm:
Not my stats, old boy. They're the official statistics from the 2018 Europol Report. Now, just to confirm, 84 is more than 16, yeah? And, I've never once suggested that Islamic terrorism isn't a problem in Europe and the West generally. Just to be clear, it is most certainly a problem. However, the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:16pm Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:29pm:
Never do address the point, do you? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:17pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:29pm:
List them................ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:18pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:23pm:
They're drug and cartel wars.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:01pm From the official 2018 Europol Report: "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." "Most terrorist attacks carried out in the EU in 2017 were specified as separatist attacks (137 out of 205)." Failed, foiled or completed attacks by affiliation in 2017: - Separatist = 67% - Jihadist = 16% - Left-wing = 12% - Right-wing = 3% - N/S = 2% Solid figures AND facts. The thread title is correct. Now we can all get some sleep. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 1:02am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:01pm:
Not so quick, Greggery. Grappler wants to say one last thing. Grappler? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Bias_2012 on Oct 4th, 2018 at 1:18am
Rightwing only 3% and Leftwing 12% Karnal, what do you think about that?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 2:12am Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 1:18am:
Ee-gad, they're Moslems too? Oh, when will it ever end? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 7:15am
LIST!!
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 7:18am
List for 2018 - I.E. 'TODAY'..... 2017's been gone for ten months, and in the meantime........
Most terror attacks in Europe, Moslem. Now we can all move on to reality.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 7:19am Karnal wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 2:12am:
But you don't want to talk about Muslim attacks.... let's get into the meat of it then..... Such confusion ....... am I the only one clear-headed about this? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 8:47am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:01pm:
Well, that's that - I was right all along. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 8:50am
No, it's not......
(the above comment written in advance of reading The Peccary Post, which we all know in advance will be arrant nonsense on this issue.... stick to industrial relations issues, greg - you're so much better there than getting in bed with lunatics like Karnival, who spends a lot of time skating over the thin ice of reality)...... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 8:52am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 8:47am:
No, you weren't ...... LIST!! ... and listing to Port doesn't count.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:17am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 8:50am:
No nonsense. Just solid facts & figures, straight from Europol. "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:44am
.. and yet the European Parliament lists 33 religious inspired attacks causing 62 deaths in 2017... hmmm .... 705 arrests seems to be helping .....
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/headlines/security/20180703STO07125/terrorism-in-the-eu-terror-attacks-deaths-and-arrests The only extant figures for 2018 (today) are those I posted...... hands down win without a protest late run..... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:45am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:17am:
Define ethno-nationalist for us....... hmmm..... sounds like a scimitar that cuts more than one way to me..... a little bit of political influence there..... could be... could be.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:45am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Nobody said that there were no religious inspired attacks. Everybody acknowledges that there were acts of Islamic terrorism. However: "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:52am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:45am:
Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist groups are motivated by nationalism and ethnicity. e.g. The Irish Republican Army (IRA), and the Basque ETA. "Most terrorist attacks carried out in the EU in 2017 were specified as separatist attacks (137 out of 205). "France counted 42 attacks, Spain experienced 7 attacks. "There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents. "The completed separatist attacks were aimed at businesses and critical infrastructure, but also at civilians and the military. "A total of 30 individuals were arrested in Germany, Spain, France, the Netherlands and Austria." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 11:40am
Greggery, where does the report mention graffiti?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 11:50am Karnal wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 11:40am:
Good question. Grap? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:24pm Karnal wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 11:40am:
I said that reported terrorist incidents (not acts) could be such as graffiti attacks... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjOfQfxmTLQ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:25pm
Do you have a list?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 11:50am:
I've been building a deck - now write that out 100 times before sunrise or I'll cut your balls off... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:34pm Karnal wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:25pm:
List - who needs lists? We're talking about ACTS and I've listed those..... no need to list every trivial incident.... It's like OH & S - for every five incidents there is one accident..... If you look at the figures for the European Parliament (nice work if you can get it alongside your national parlie, eh? Nice job for one of the old mate's club that is...) 2017 had 33 ACTS and 705 arrests.... That's ... ummmmm.... 705/33 = 21.4 something incidents and acts combined for every act...... not a bad strike rate for the security services... and not all were Mussos... buggar it.... hang on - the EP said Mussos.. buggar... that throws the scenario out to buggary.... 2018, so far, is showing a different story..... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:41pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:24pm:
Yet, the report doesn't mention graffiti at all (do a word search and see for yourself). "Improvised explosive devices, firearms and improvised weapon, such as knives and vehicles, are the weapons of choice with which recent attacks were carried out." In regard to 'incidents': "There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents." And: "Consistently with previous years, modi operandi employed by leftwing and anarchist terrorist groups included predominantly the use of improvised explosive devices (IEDs)." No graffiti here either: "Five foiled, failed or completed terrorist attacks attributed to rightwing extremists (RWE) were reported for 2017: all of them by the UK. On 19 June one person died and 10 were injured after a van was driven deliberately into a crowd of Muslim worshippers in North London by a man who had previously expressed hatred of Muslims. Four days later, on 23 June, a known supporter of the far-right party Britain First drove a vehicle into an Indian restaurant in London, injuring several people. Prior to the attacks, he was caught on CCTV making Nazi salutes. "In addition to attacks classified as terrorism, other violent incidents took place in 2017 motivated by RWE, for example on 15 April two men with a proven affinity with National Socialism threw incendiary devices at an asylum hostel in Germany." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by xeej on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:59pm
Are there any Christian V Muslim (bear in mind Christian only meaning a church going religious nutters putting religion first and dictating their way of life, imposing that way of life on their children and treating others as infidels and remaining silent when acts of atrocity such as one of their flock blows up teenagers at a concert type and not just being white) terrorist attack statistics.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 1:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:41pm:
So Grap, as you can see, the 'incidents' they're talking about are shootings and bombings. Hang on - maybe they were paint bombs, and that's where you're getting 'graffiti' from? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 1:30pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:34pm:
Here's another one for the goalpost list, Greggery. Yes, but how many have they arrested? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 1:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:41pm:
Sure, but that's just a bit of harmless Paki and Curry bashing. Okay, they used a car, but so what? That's only one example. You show us all the graffiti incidents in there, go on. We're sick to death of all this apologist nonsense. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 4th, 2018 at 1:42pm Karnal wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 1:30pm:
705 in 2017 as the quote above says... SpecSavers? ::) ::) ::) It's never a good idea to disturb your enemy while he's making a mistake. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 5:22pm
Good point, Grappler, but does that mean there are more Moslem terrorist attacks in Europe?
The UK Daily Mail has been rather quiet about all these terrorist graffiti attacks. Could we say more media reports means there are more Moslem terrorist attacks in Europe too? I'd ask Herbie, but he's left us for Stormfront. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 4th, 2018 at 6:56pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 12:41pm:
Northern Ireland is in Europe but is not Europe. Local separatist security incidents (see? even your source doesn't call them terrorist attacks) are not proving that Islamic jihad in Europe is not the biggest and most significant and most widespread terrorist threat in Europe. Every Europol report confirms it. I gave you the links. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 7:20pm Frank wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
That's right. That's exactly what I was showing Grap. He claims that the 'incidents' were graffiti. I showed him that they're actually bombings and shootings. You really should pay attention. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 4th, 2018 at 7:51pm Frank wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
Greg is a terrorist... this is how they waste their lives in their adopted countrys :D :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:19pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Thank you, sh!thead - do remember where it all started: with your idiotic claim about 20 pages ago. Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:21pm Frank wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
Indeed. That has now been proven. As usual, I was right. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Yes, Greggery, but how do we know? They might have been graffiti, they might have been anything. It's complicated, remember. Circles within circles, wheels within wheels. Northern Island is in Europe but not Europe. Security incidents could be bombings or graffiti attacks, how could you tell? They may even be fire drills for all we know. The old boy does have a point. It's squishy, reflexive, mendacious, yeah-but-no-but spinelessness evasiveness - on stilts, as every schoolboy knows. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:33pm Karnal wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:22pm:
You can imagine my surprise. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:33pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:21pm:
You are arguing a trivial, pointless thing, shithead, as is your habit. Your point matters not at all. It's a distortion of what actually matters, what actually is a serious problem. You conflate important and trivial numbers simply to downplay the importance of significance numbers that may be outnumbered by insignificant numbers. That's how stupid, dishonest and laughable you are. And you will continue with washing together the important and significant with the the trivial and irrelevant for years to come. It is a stupid and dishonest stance, as you full-well know, but you are stupid and dishonest and have found your niche of stupid and dishonest and so you will dig in. Smart and honest are just not options for you, Turd.i |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:36pm Frank wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:33pm:
Most terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. This has been confirmed by Europol. Was there anything else? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:56pm Frank wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:33pm:
I agree, old boy. Greggery is being ever so dishonest by claiming the majority of terror attacks in Europe aren't Moslem. He should be discussing graffiti instead, no? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:36pm:
You are arguing a trivial, pointless thing, shithead, as is your habit. Your point matters not at all. It's a distortion of what actually matters, what actually is a serious problem. You conflate important and trivial numbers simply to downplay the importance of significance numbers that may be outnumbered by insignificant numbers. That's how stupid, dishonest and laughable you are. And you will continue with washing together the important and significant with the the trivial and irrelevant for years to come. It is a stupid and dishonest stance, as you full-well know, but you are stupid and dishonest and have found your niche of stupid and dishonest and so you will dig in. Smart and honest are just not options for you, Turd. You are an insolent shithead. Was there anything else? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:04pm Karnal wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:56pm:
Eat him, coprophile, miam miam. We know you are hanging around for that feed. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:17pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:36pm:
Yes Greg. How many incidents of graffiti were included in the statistics? Are you going to keep this up all day, or are you going to try for a straight answer this time? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:26pm Frank wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:02pm:
I have something else, dear boy. Is Greggery being dishonest when he says your stool is to die for? Google: taqiyya. We're British. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:49pm Karnal wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
I did, it lead to an American site. What can you tell us about this you redshanked Haggistani crossdesser? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:55pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
I believe it's what you say to the wifey when she asks if her bottom looks big in this. Either that, or being polite when the old boy offers you one of his potted stools. Miam miam. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 4th, 2018 at 11:05pm Karnal wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:55pm:
My wife is not Scottish. It would be racist. I call her the tin miners daughter, her family is from Cornwall. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 5th, 2018 at 12:04am
Here's a Haggistani crossdresser for you, K. The men wear skirts the women wear pants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiuLKR0BKno |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 5th, 2018 at 12:10am
Check out these redshanked skirt boy cross dressers, K.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xp5cnbTDJ4 |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 5th, 2018 at 1:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:36pm:
WHO STARTED THE WAR ON TERROR? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 5th, 2018 at 1:59pm TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 1:24pm:
Was it Mr Bush? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 5th, 2018 at 2:27pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
which one? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 5th, 2018 at 2:28pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
George Walker |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 5th, 2018 at 3:03pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
It was the terrorists and you know it buddy! You're just a complete f-head buddy pretending you don't know anything but you know the muzzo cu&^% started it :D :D :D :D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 5th, 2018 at 3:08pm TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 3:03pm:
The terrorists started the war on terror? That's an interesting ... 'theory' :-/ Have you thought about putting the bong down, for just a day or two? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Mr Hammer on Oct 5th, 2018 at 3:19pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 2:28pm:
Yep, what a mess they created. Without those silly wars we'd have less refugees. Should have let them rip themselves apart. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 5th, 2018 at 3:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 3:08pm:
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 6th, 2018 at 7:52am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:32pm:
Why not? Do deaths have nothing to do with terrorism or your "statistics" on terrorism? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 6th, 2018 at 9:56am freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 7:52am:
Do you have alternative "statistics", FD? Why not? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:42am freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 7:52am:
Because it's not the subject of this thread. Open a new one if you have such a morbid fascination. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:44am
Are you saying that deaths due to terrorism have nothing to do with terror attacks?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:48am freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:44am:
Are you not reading the thread title? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:53am
Yes Greg. It's about terror attacks in Europe. Perhaps you think that European terrorism has nothing to do with death? Is this how you get to include graffiti attacks?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:02am Has anyone found these mysterious graffiti attacks yet? I'm curious :-/ https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/eu-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report I've done a word search on the documents, and 'graffiti' scores zero hits. In fact, they list terrorist 'incidents' as 'bombings' and 'shootings'. Maybe they're talking about paint bombs, and paint guns :-/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:08am
Greg are you blaming me for your tendency to produce different evidence every time you are asked to back up your claims?
How do you discuss terrorism while refusing to discuss death due to terrorism because it is off-topic Greg? Is this just another elaborate effort from you at running away from your own opinion? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:10am freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:08am:
Have you found the graffiti attacks yet? https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018 I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:15am
Greg are you saying that graffiti attacks are relevant to your terrorism statistics, but deaths due to terrorism are not?
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:17am freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:15am:
FD, are you now admitting that graffiti attacks are not included in the statistics? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:21am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:17am:
Which statistics Greg? You present different evidence every time, then spend the rest of the thread running away from it. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:23am freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:21am:
Which statistics, FD? You haven't provided any, remember? Why or why not? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:34am Karnal wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:23am:
I'm sure he'll eventually post some, in the fullness of time. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:32pm Karnal wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Yes, of course, there is always stool when you and gweggy float in. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:45pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:34am:
Slip away, turd, slip away. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 8th, 2018 at 7:11pm Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:45pm:
You confirm it with your lies Though the web that you weave can hold me I would rather that you told me Where you wanna be Oooh slipping away from me |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 9th, 2018 at 4:49pm
So what the other attacks must be of low signifiance, why do they say that islamic terror is the major concern and perpetrator of the greatest number of fatalities and casualities?
Why are the authorities mainly interested in islamic terror? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 9th, 2018 at 5:23pm moses wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 4:49pm:
The "authorities" here are referring to the EU member states' focus on Islamic terrorism, Moses. Europol is referring to the popular fear caused by Jihadist attacks and the high number of casualties, despite their relatively low number of attacks. But I'm curious. Why do you refuse to acknowledge the overwhelming majority of terrorist crimes? FD won't answer this, but I think the answer's there on the tip of your tongue, dear. You? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 9th, 2018 at 5:25pm
I blame ethno-nationalism, but that's just me.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 9th, 2018 at 5:50pm Quote:
Europol states categorically that the main concern is jihadist terrorism, they have an acute threat level. Now I fully believe that they are saying that islamic terror is the number one terrorist threat in Europe. Quote:
As I said they must be of a lot lower significance. Europol says that islamic terror is the major threat and causes the most fatalities and injured. Why are you trying to dance around this stated fact? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:23pm Karnal wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 5:25pm:
Define ethno-nationalism for us - is it an exclusively internal issue or is it also comprised of certain ethno-nationalistic groups seeking to bring in a foreign regime by stealth and force and to alter the pre-existing culture according to their own dictates? Where does ethno-nationalism start and finish? With your White Aussie Surfer who has trouble with 'Bankies' at Cronulla and hits back, with your outright rabid Nationalist who is prepared to fight for the country, with those who continue to identify as their personal ethno-nationalist group after several generations or even one living in Australia? The use of Australia as an example is an example - you do understand what example is? Or are you going to again argue perpetually about specific things within Oz without ever addressing the issue.... I do so hate to put people on the mat and ask them the hard questions, but still... What IS your answer? and stand to attention until I tell you.............. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:25pm moses wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 5:50pm:
As I said they must be of a lot lower significance. Europol says that islamic terror is the major threat and causes the most fatalities and injured. Why are you trying to dance around this stated fact? [/quote] That's the way it's done...... dance around the issue and the facts until everyone just goes away... then think you 'won'...... won a steaming pile of absolute horse manure... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9th, 2018 at 7:41pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
How many times do you want it defined? I've given you the definition a few times, and have posted the link to the report at least a dozen times. Read the report: it's all in there. Jihadist's only make up 16% of terrorist attacks in Europe. They are in the minority. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:01pm Karnal wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 5:23pm:
You are insisting on something really stupid that only you, Bwian and karnal could insist on. You want something jaywalking in Bilbao and Belfast acknowledged as bigger issue than homicidal jihad in Europe because there are more jaywalkers than homicidal jihadists. You would argue that the atomic bombs on japan were less significant than the speeding tickets handed out between 1939 and 1945 because there were only two atomic bombs buth lots of parking tickets. That's how stupid and dishonest you are and you will go on being stupid and dishonest for another 40 pages until you come up with another twisted idiocy and will then bang on about that for 40 pages on another thread. And so on and so forth, as you always you, loose stool (back, Karnal, BACK!!!) McTurdface. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Secret Wars on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
What percentage of the body count? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
No you haven't. Nor has karnal who mentioned it a couple of times, defining it only if lumping it together with some other terms is a definition (to idiots like you two, perhaps gesticulating in certain directions is the definition of your 'thoughts'). Abos are the supreme example ethno-nationalists - First Nation, don't you know? - but that is not what you mean. You don't know what you mean. Nobody does. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:21pm Frank wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Oh yes I have. Here it is again, direct from the report: "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist groups are motivated by nationalism, ethnicity and/or religion. "Separatist groups seek to carve out a state for themselves from a larger country, or annex a territory from one country to that of another. Left- or right-wing ideological elements are not uncommon in these types of groups. "The Irish Republican Army (IRA), the Basque ETA, and the Kurdish PKK organisations fall into this category." Let me know when you need it again. I'm only too happy to continue making you look like an absolute fool. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:23pm Secret Wars wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
I don't know. read the report - the answer is probably there. Now, back to the thread title: - the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. That fact has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt. Maybe it's time to start a new thread about me. I mean, it's been over a week now ;D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Then what is your answer - I have better things to do than chose your answers across many pages.... 16% of terrorist attacks resulting in massively the majority injuries and deaths - with countless more attacks prevented by early arrests... Muslim Population Europe 6% - Muslim attacks 16%. Let's make it simple so you can follow it - 2004-2017 are the glory days of Islamic terrorism in Europe when it comes to killing people:- Come back, good buddy.... how many twists and turns are we to get now? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:30pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:21pm:
So Arabic/Ethnic ghettoism and demands for an Islamic State within national borders in Europe don't fit in there? They don't seek to isolate and annex territory and indeed entire societies? Keep talking - it's not me you are making a fool of. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:36pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
No twists. No turns. My claim was that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. The official reports from Europol show that I was 100% correct. Why would I need to twist and/or turn? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:34am moses wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 5:50pm:
As I said they must be of a lot lower significance. Europol says that islamic terror is the major threat and causes the most fatalities and injured. Why are you trying to dance around this stated fact? [/quote] Because I've read the report, Moses. It clearly does not state that the Muselman is the source of European terrorism, as every schoolboy who can read knows. If you have an.alternative view, please post it here with a reference to your source. Europol is clear, dear. I'll give you some time to read its report and come back with your informed view. I'll wait for your considered response. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:46am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
No, dear, Arab nationalism is confined to the Middle East. The Europol report is clear that the Islamicist threat to Europe comes from outside influences - i.e, al Qaida and ISI, with agents within. These are not European separatists like the IRA or ETA, but you knew that already, of course, from reading the report. I'm sure you would never be so mendacious as to pretend that the Muselman is the source of ethno-nationalist terrorism here. FD and the old boy tried that one,, but that's not you, Grappler. You have credibility, remember? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 10th, 2018 at 9:58am
Eyewash.
Belfast, Bilbao, Ankara are not European problems just because they are in Europe. They are very localised. Islamic jihad, like the Red Brigades, are cross-border, international problems with additional localised grieavances added in just to nurture the jihadis victim mentality and justify their acting in supposed 'self-defence'. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:19pm Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 9:58am:
Ankara is in Turkey, dear boy. It is not in the EU, as every schoolboy knows. Belfast is in Europe. Just like jolly old Denmark, no? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:23pm Abos are the supreme example ethno-nationalists. Are their crimes and riots in the name of Aboriginality counted in the Australian stats as etho-nationalist terrorism, which is what they are. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:25pm Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:19pm:
Year 9 geography, innit? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:25pm Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:19pm:
You brought up the Kurds, mong, as Europeans. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:34pm Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:23pm:
No, dear boy. Your Abo is not fighting for a separate nation. Nor is he fighting - unless you count graffiti in your definition. Still, a good attempt to steer the discussion back to the tinted races. If you can't finger the Muselman, go for the Boong. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:39pm Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:25pm:
I most certainly did not, dear boy. The Europol report uses them as an example of militant separatism. Presumably, some of their action reaches Europe. We can't say the same for you though, old chap. You're on your way to becoming an assimilated Australian. Leave all that stool business behind you. And if you can't do that, blame the Boong. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:41pm
karnal: Reply #395 - Today at 12:34am
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A nice bit of useless information regarding the actual terror threat in Europe Once again for your good self: EUROPOL TERRORISM Terrorism The overall terrorist threat to the security of the EUremains acute. The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism and the closely related phenomenon of foreign terrorist fighters who travel to and from conflict zones. Recent attacks in the EU demonstrate the intent and capability of jihadist terrorists to inflict mass casualties on urban populations in an effort to induce a high state of well-publicised terror. The carefully planned attacks continue to demonstrate the elevated threat to the EU from an extremist minority, operationally based in the Middle East, combined with a network of people born and raised in the EU, often radicalised within a short space of time, who have proven willing and able to act as facilitators and active accomplices in terrorism. Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. While there was a large number of terrorist attacks not connected with jihadism, the latter accounts for the most serious forms of terrorist activity as nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks. Categorically states: 1/. the threat level is acute. 2/. the main concern is jihadist terror. 3/. jihadis' consist of foreign and local jihadists. 4/. the highest number of fatalities and casualties are the result of jihadist terror attacks. So your smokescreens consisting of ineffectual information regarding European terror, can never hide the fact that the European people have the most to fear from islamic terror. Nice try but no banana, islamic terror, overwhelmingly is the principal terror threat in Europe. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:45pm moses wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
"Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge" The Europol Report shows that Jihadists only account for 16% of attacks. Thus, the thread title is correct: the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 10th, 2018 at 4:13pm moses wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
The facts are wacist and islamophobic. :P |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2018 at 4:17pm moses wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
That's the same passage I informed you about earlier, Moses. I thought you were going you provide something new. The report states that jihadist terrorism is the biggest concern of EU member states, not the terrorism experts. I'm not going to repeat myself again, dear. If you have something that disproves this, please post it. Until then, you be a good boy and acknowledge the biggest perpetrator of terrorist incidents and plots. You still haven't said.who this is, Moses. Not apologising for them, are you? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2018 at 4:20pm Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 4:13pm:
Do you know? Until reading Greggery's evidence, I too believed the Muselman was the biggest source of terrorism. Now I know. Why? Facts. Shurely shome mishtake, no? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:09pm Quote:
My position is rock steady, jihadists have Europol stating they constitute the main threat, they have killed and injured the most people. Of the 12 trends identified by the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. The threat level in Europe is acute. I very much doubt that the threat level is referring to any other group but islamic terrorists. So I'll believe Europol who say islamic terror is the main threat, and is responsible for the most deaths and injuries from terrorism. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:09pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:25pm:
Yeah, so why the bloody hell do the Turks want to join the European Union??? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:36pm moses wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
What do you think of this insipid apologist, Greggery? Now the Europol report doesn't mean what it says either. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:38pm Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:09pm:
Oh, they want to, do they? Now that's Year 9 maths. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 4:20pm:
Indeed, a mistake. Creative accounting, sleight-of-hand statistics, 'hiding the detriment', 'hiding the decline', all that. Muslim immigration exploded since 2001 across all Western countries - talk about stupid - and the Islamic jihad has surpassed all all previous terrorist activity, most of which was local - basque, irish - or silly anarchist Red Brigades stuff. The entire international dynamic changed with the collapse of the Soviet Union and so presenting stats for the 1970 - now period without acknowledging that momentous change is idiotic- hence gweggy turd's and your insistance on presenting just that. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:02pm
So Europol just made it all up, eh? Along with porkies like turkey being a part of Europe.and Ireland being in another continent altogether?
I say, how devious and mendacious of them. Dare I say it? How kunning. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 10th, 2018 at 11:14pm
It's amazing how far some 'leftie' (not genuine left wing - just weakness masquerading as government) governments will go to not 'upset' certain ethnic groups....
So frightened of being labeled these days as some kind of oppressors, racists, fascists etc, that they refuse to confront the real issues in front of them.... I say fork the ethnic groups - they want to live here - they fit in... or leave. The Greeks and the Eyeties did pretty well here.. and the Polacks and even the Chermans who came here... the new lot can just fall in line or get out..... I don't recall Greek or Italian or Polish or German demands that this society and culture accommodate itself to theirs or people lose their heads - they worked and many did very well. Some good Italian restaurants in Leichhart, some good Vietnamers in Little Saigon, and even a fine Lebo in Bondi... great Chinese and even Japanese in Haymarket.... integrationists all and welcome!! Even had a fine Kashmiri meal in Canterbury - very nice indeed.... and the Cambodian in Drummoyne... excellent! Now -- roasted goat's eyes with camel toe dressing.... not too sure about that one.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 10th, 2018 at 11:16pm Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:02pm:
Yes - they are just covering their ass in accordance with political diktat... Here's a fine piece of Scottish Ass for you:- |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 11th, 2018 at 12:01am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 11:14pm:
Me neither, dear. And you should hear these Danes. Hate our culture, the lot. You? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Pedro Curevo on Oct 11th, 2018 at 4:59am
Looking at the three major religious traditions that believe in one God (Christianity, Islam and Judaism), all three make reference in their religious texts to both violence and peace.
Solution...shoot the smacking lot of em...or learn to coexist. Preferably the latter. :) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 14th, 2018 at 12:02am
Islam is the biggest threat to the West from outside.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 14th, 2018 at 1:39am Pedro Curevo wrote on Oct 11th, 2018 at 4:59am:
I'm more akin to the North American Plains Indian thing - I am part of the universe, and it is part of me ... when I die I will become a new part of the Universe.... when I kill to eat or survive, it is part of the Universe and all has its place in the Universe.... nothing is lost..... and so everything lives forever.... Only a White Man would consider that a buffalo killed and eaten is turned into excrement.. it is turned into life for many others in many ways.... and we thank the buffalo for its gifts.... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 14th, 2018 at 1:43am Frank wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 12:02am:
Islam with its mindless followers and the equally mindless pursuit of a 'global economy' that rapes the West of its abilities and its productivity in the name of pure profit... Prophet or profit - no difference. Meditate on this, Grasshoppers.... know your enemy and guard yourself and your family unto generations... take up the sword of righteous justice.... defend what is truly yours... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 14th, 2018 at 3:48am Frank wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 12:02am:
Yes, but what about you stool-eating Kraut immigrants? We made you eat sht in WWII, and now you're back again. We obviously didn't multiculturalise you people enough. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 14th, 2018 at 3:51am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 1:43am:
Another chortling old Nazi bin-straightener. If you people didn't exist, we'd have to make you up. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 14th, 2018 at 7:39am Frank wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 12:02am:
Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy, from anywhere. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14th, 2018 at 9:06am freediver wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 7:39am:
What makes you say that? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 14th, 2018 at 10:09am
Just stating facts Greg.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14th, 2018 at 10:13am freediver wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 10:09am:
I provided credible evidence from a reliable & reputable source to support my facts. Will you be doing the same? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 14th, 2018 at 10:29am
If I think it is necessary Greg.
If you think I am incorrect, feel free to give an example of a greater modern threat to freedom and democracy. Otherwise I am not going to bother proving something you agree with. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14th, 2018 at 10:33am freediver wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 10:29am:
Oh, it's necessary alright. You made the claim, so now the onus is on you to provide the proof. Or, you could just ask more silly questions as a way of deflecting. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 14th, 2018 at 2:40pm |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14th, 2018 at 2:44pm moses wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 2:40pm:
They aren't wrong. Their stats show that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. Only 16% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists. You would have seen it in the report, had you taken the time to read it. You can read, can't you? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 14th, 2018 at 4:01pm
@gpeccary
Can you tell us why only jihadists are listed as the main concern? Have Europol got that wrong? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 14th, 2018 at 4:08pm
It's because even among terrorists, Muslims have managed to set a new low.
That is the same evidence Greg used to back up his claim (which he now runs away from) that Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world. It is in the EU, but perhaps he thinks it is not in the ME. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 14th, 2018 at 4:30pm moses wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 4:01pm:
Yes, Greggery. And can you tell us why Moses is so willing to lie about the report even when we can all read it? Is this what they call Christian taqiyya? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 14th, 2018 at 4:33pm freediver wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 4:08pm:
Do they have ethno-nationalism in the Middle East too, FD? Oh my, when will it ever end? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 14th, 2018 at 4:35pm freediver wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 7:39am:
Excluding your own brand of white supremacism? You've been pretty quiet about that of late, FD. What's the matter, cat got your tongue? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 14th, 2018 at 5:11pm Frank wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 12:02am:
Its enablers and excusers are the biggest threat to the West, actually. Without that fifth column people would not be cowered into silence about Islam, just as they weree not until just when large scale jihad and simultaneous Islam immigration to the West started. What madness is that, opening your doors to those who have been declaring themselves as your sworn enemies from the inception of their ideology? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14th, 2018 at 5:50pm freediver wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 4:08pm:
The majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. Isn't that what the report says, FD? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 14th, 2018 at 6:11pm
Greg is a terrorist: end of story!
How long does this stupid forum go on for, lol? ****Yay, let's all herald blood for oil wars forever yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 14th, 2018 at 6:37pm Frank wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 5:11pm:
Says a despicable supporter of ethno-nationalist terrorism. You heard it here first, Death. The old boy won't even say it's name. He flew here. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 14th, 2018 at 8:30pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 5:50pm:
What is included in terrorism? How is non-islamic Muslim crime distinguished from Jihadi crime? What is included in Europe? What is the time frame? What is the method of determining if an attack/crime by a Muslim is an Islamic crime or a not? What made you an insufferable shitehead? When did it happen? What life trauma made you a turd? So many questions and you avoid answering all of them, turd. Bang on your little drum, that's what you have been pood onto this Earth for. And Karnal says, miam miam.i |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14th, 2018 at 8:35pm Frank wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
Read the report, old boy. All the answers are there. The majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 14th, 2018 at 8:45pm Karnal wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with siding with your own people, Shithead. Calling patriotism and preference for your own people 'ethno-nationalist terrorism' is the height if your idiocy, Paki. As if 'post-colonialist theory' was not precisely about supporting their own ethic and nationalist 'aspirations' (ie tribal exploitation of the other caste, tribe, etc) The white man, with his enlightenment and universalist outlook is a naif compared to the hardcore, bloody exploiters of the other tribe that all the tinted tribalists of the world practice and want to introduce, by way of re-primitivisation of the world, into the West. The heart of darkness is sailing up the Thames, Seine, Danube, Potomac and there is no will or ability to stop it and turn it away. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 14th, 2018 at 8:52pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 8:35pm:
A lie. You cross out the very point that put a lie to your stupidity, proving, by tour own 'editing' that you are a lying, dishonest little shite. If you really were honest you would have addressed those points, just to show that you are right, not just a parrot repeating shite. But by crossing them out, again and again, you have confirmed that you are a lying, dishonest, despicable shite speaking, as always , in bad faith. Bwian loves you. I pity Perth for having two such insufferable shites, if indeed you are two. I doubt it. You are a m0r0n in Bwian's mould and he stands alone as far as m0r0nic is concerned. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:19am Frank wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
So many questions indeed, but here's one you can answer, dear boy. What percentage of terrorist attacks in Europe (2017) were Muslim? A simple figure will do. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:24am Frank wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
I see. But does your support for terrorists who are patriots and preference their own kind extend to the tinted races? Why or why not? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:45am Frank wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 8:52pm:
The truth. "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." "Jihadist = 16%" "Separatist = 67%" |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:48am
Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by aquascoot on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:57am
yeah, i would say the muslim terrorists arent the major concern.
i would think the extreme left are more of a concern. anti-fa look to be the military force of the radical left and the radical left seem to be taking over the universities and the democratic party. people like hilary and barak were pretty moderate and sought to bring about socialist change slowly. but the radicals and the activists seem to believe that the capitalist system is rotten to the core and needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up. and when i look into the eyes of the anti fa protestors, i see ideological possession. the left and the right are no longer able to talk to each other and social media is rewarding outrage and extremism. you can see this in a microcosm on this board. gweg and the mechanic , for instance , get a lot of feedback for becoming more and more extreme . and social media rewards outrage and extremeism, thats how you get a hit. trump cottoned onto this but i think the donald is not possessed. he just uses the medium to his advantage. but a lot of dumb lefties and a lot of dumb righties are going to become more and more extreme. we are going to see some acts of terrorism in the west played out by the ultra left and the ultra right will come and play ball. all in all its a bad scenario. but if the democrats dont kick the radicals out of their party, they will become possessed. that will lead to very very dark places. i think trump will be delighted. he loves a fight. he is stirring the hornets nest of leftie lunacy and the moderate liberals are to weak to bring the activists into line |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:23am freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:48am:
Don't want to answer the question, eh? Now why is that? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:28am aquascoot wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:57am:
I don't think the IRA qualify as the extreme left, Aquascoot. Greek anarchists maybe, but are anarchists even of the left? Some say they're cut from the same cloth as libertarians. Friedrich Hayek, for example, was a conservative anarchist, and he was one of Margaret Thatcher's biggest influences. I'd say your Muselman is about as reactionary as they come. You? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:40am freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:48am:
Are the stats accurate? A simple yes or no will suffice. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by aquascoot on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:57am Karnal wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:28am:
i think in western democracies, the anarchists are mainly from the left. people with antisocial tendencies and with personality disorders dont do well in a western democracy. and they become bitter and resentful . they could try to struggle up the "narrow road to success" but its just a lot easier to tear things down then to build slowly and carefully. the pandering to them by left wing politicians merely fuels their ideology. and identity politics ensures that there is an ever increasing supply of angry disaffected victims. its very dangerous. ask this 70 yo guy who gets detroyed whilst portlands police sit back and watch. a surreal scenario for 2018 america. start at about 2minutes 30 if you like ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq-dcJrnGTM |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 9:25am aquascoot wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:57am:
What happened before that, though? Did he mount the kerb and try to run people down with his car? ___________________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK8kPYeG7T4 |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Yadda on Oct 15th, 2018 at 9:26am aquascoot wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:57am:
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 9:43am What you need to know about The Trumpet. "Understand the world news—and the purpose for human life—through Bible prophecy on the Trumpet Daily. Each episode of the Trumpet Daily aims to give viewers a Biblical perspective on a number of different topics, including world news, Christian living, and end time prophecy. New content is uploaded weekly. "The Trumpet Daily is a program produced by the Philadelphia Church of God on location or at Edstone Hall at its United Kingdom regional office. Executive editor of the Philadelphia Trumpet newsmagazine, Stephen Flurry, hosts the program." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:40am:
I have no idea if they are accurate Greg. Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:51pm freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
I believe them to be accurate (unless someone can prove otherwise). I don't find them misleading at all - it clearly shows that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. Moreover, so does the 2017 report - only 9% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists in 2016. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by freediver on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:55pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Do you think that statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks with no injuries are likely to be misleading? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 1:16pm freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
I'm sure Yadda would agree with me when I say that every attack by terrorists is a terrorist attack. Would you agree too, FD? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by gandalf on Oct 15th, 2018 at 2:43pm
I take it these are the "graffiti" - or is it "paint bomb"? attacks FD keeps referring to:
[edit]Attack methodologies and capabilities used by DRs vary across the groups with many attacks involving firearms or small improvised explosive devices such as pipe bombs. They have, however, also deployed larger and/or potentially more destructive devices such as vehicle borne improvised explosive devices (VBIED) and explosively formed projectiles.[/edit] see? Just harmless pranks innit. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by gandalf on Oct 15th, 2018 at 2:47pm freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Possibly FD. Similar to pretending that actual attacks using actual bombs, including vehicle borne ones are in fact graffiti and paint bombs - wouldn't you say? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 15th, 2018 at 3:19pm
Jihadist = 16%"
"Separatist = 67%" The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks. Why are muslims and leftards trying to muddy the waters? Has Europol got it wrong? I don't think so. Facts are the major terrorist concern is islamic terrorism. muslims are responsible for nearly all of the deaths, muslims are responsible for most of the casualties. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 3:45pm moses wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
No muddying of any waters. The thread title (started by an Islamophobe) is "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge". And, the 2018 Europol report clearly states that the majority of terrorist attacks were indeed carried out by non-Muslims. Jihadists = 16% Everyone else = 84%. In the 2017 report, Jihadists were only responsible for 9%. Crystal clear - no mud in sight. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 15th, 2018 at 4:36pm
The leftard / muslim tactic at the moment is to use misleading and misrepresentative facts.
Definition of misrepresent 1/. to give a false or misleading representation of usually with an intent to deceive or be unfair 2/. to serve badly or improperly as a representative of Definition of mislead 1/.to lead in a wrong direction or into a mistaken action or belief often by deliberate deceit 2/. to lead astray : give a wrong impression The leftard is using his facts which are misleading and misrepresentative. The leftard is desperate to purposely hide the Europol report which categorically states: Europol Terrorism Report: The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 15th, 2018 at 4:37pm
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 4:54pm moses wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 4:36pm:
No misleading or misrepresentative facts. Good to see you acknowledge that they are indeed facts, though. The thread title (started by an Islamophobe) is "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge". And, the 2018 Europol report clearly states that the majority of terrorist attacks were indeed carried out by non-Muslims. Jihadists = 16% Everyone else = 84%. In the 2017 report, Jihadists were only responsible for 9%. Nothing misleading there - just the facts, ma'am. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 15th, 2018 at 5:03pm freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Greggery's evading you here, FD (too scared). What he meant to say is why would a 2017 report on European terrorism compare a 2001 attack on the US? Do you think it the statistics would be more accurate if they omitted non-Muslim attacks? Don't answer that. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/2018-ATA---Unclassified-SSCI.pdf
Terrorism in Australia The violent ideology of Sunni Islamist terrorist groups—such as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and al-Qa'ida—continues to appeal to a small number of people in Australia. These groups use the power of the internet to spread their propaganda to an existing audience and also aim it at those susceptible to radicalisation. The broad body of terrorist propaganda continues to grow. Some propaganda releases specifically celebrate previous terrorist attacks including the methods and tactics used in attacks, while others feature tailored messaging that references specific countries or individuals. Australia continues to be specifically mentioned in some pro-ISIL propaganda—these releases add to a large body of material that encourages terrorism. While a single piece of propaganda, or mention of Australia, is unlikely to be the sole catalyst for an onshore attack it can offer inspiration, guidance and instructions that may appeal to individuals willing to use violence. The impact of the actions of even one individual willing to use violence can be significant and is clearly evident in the terrorist attacks that have occurred in Australia since 2014. The primary terrorist threat in Australia is from a small number of Islamist extremists, principally lone actors or small groups. While we must be prepared for more complex attack plots, simple attack methodologies that enable individuals to act independently and with a high degree of agility remain the more likely form of terrorism in Australia. The simple nature of these attacks means preparation may not involve activity that will come to the attention of authorities—meaning there is no guarantee of early detection or disruption. Many Islamist terrorist attacks and plots aim to inflict maximum casualties or indiscriminately target members of the public and attackers often aim to be killed during their attack. The lone actor threat is not confined to Islamist extremists. Individuals motivated by other ideological agendas could also consider conducting an act of terrorism; the 2016 arrest and subsequent terrorism-related charges against a right-wing lone actor in Melbourne reinforces this threat. https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Securityandyourcommunity/Pages/National-Terrorism-Threat-Advisory-System.aspx Europe faces a persistent threat from Islamist terrorism.[1] It is one that has increased with the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), the al-Qaeda offshoot that now controls significant parts of Iraq and Syria. The director of Europol recently described the current situation as “the highest terrorist threat we have faced for over 10 years.”[2] These security concerns are being exacerbated by unprecedented levels of migration into Europe from impoverished and/or war-torn areas of the Middle East, Africa, and the Balkans, with ISIS known to have targeted such routes for infiltration. https://www.heritage.org/terrorism/report/the-threat-islamist-terrorism-europe-and-how-the-us-should-respond Now bvgger off, turd. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:33pm Frank wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." Is FD calling Europol liars? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 16th, 2018 at 1:22am
Oh, old boy, I'm not sure why you're commenting on Australia, but your reactionary think tank article is just a commentary on Greggery's Europol report.
These things are known. Of course Jihadist terrorism is a major problem in Europe. We've already discussed the casualties, what more would you like to add? Oh, that's right - bugger off, Turd. Good point. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 16th, 2018 at 1:32am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:33pm:
He said they're publishing "misleading" data, so yes. FD is indeed calling Europol liars. I believe FD has alternative data. Something about graffiti. Could you track this down and post it for him, please? FD believes this educates you more than him spoon feeding you with his own arguments. You might like to argue FD's case yourself while you're at it - most educational. You can learn a lot this way. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:04pm
The leftard / muslim tactic at the moment is to use misleading and misrepresentative facts.
Definition of misrepresent 1/. to give a false or misleading representation of usually with an intent to deceive or be unfair 2/. to serve badly or improperly as a representative of Definition of mislead 1/.to lead in a wrong direction or into a mistaken action or belief often by deliberate deceit 2/. to lead astray : give a wrong impression The leftard is using his facts which are misleading and misrepresentative. The leftard is desperate to purposely hide the Europol report which categorically states: Europol Terrorism Report: The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:29pm moses wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
Nothing misleading here: "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:39pm
Your example is by far outweighed by the facts that the threat level in Europe is acute, the main threat is jihadist terrorism and the highest number of fatalities and casualties are caused by jihadists.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 16th, 2018 at 3:16pm moses wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:39pm:
Have you seen the thread title? "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge". The Europol reports clearly and unambiguously confirms this claim. Nothing misleading. Just the facts. "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:45pm moses wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:39pm:
At 16%. Misleading data, innit. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:37pm Karnal wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 1:32am:
Needless to say, turd, that your quote occurs only on Ozpolitics as posted by you. Lying turd, I should say. Say ppffftsss..to your Paki gobbler-upper. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 16th, 2018 at 7:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 3:16pm:
You never include the link, Turd. We have all noticed. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 16th, 2018 at 7:39pm
It might help if you speaka da English, old boy.
Assimilation, innit. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 16th, 2018 at 7:49pm Frank wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
Page 7, #10: https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018 "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." The percentages are on the bottom right hand corner of page 9. Jihadist = 16% Separatist = 67% |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 16th, 2018 at 7:50pm Frank wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
I've given the link at least 10 times. Here it is again. https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018 .pdf on the right, down under the text. Page 7, #10: https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018 "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." The percentages are on the bottom right hand corner of page 9. Jihadist = 16% Separatist = 67% |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:03pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 7:49pm: Page 7, #10: [/quote] See also #1 - #9 for context. Numbers, being insignificant compared to jihadi deadliness and danger - points 1-9 - come in at No 10. A tenth order issue, and turd will of course will always latch onto any old tenth-order issue. What a shite you are gwegg. Situate your tenth point in the context of the preceding 9 points, if you dare, shitehead. You don't, you will do the cowardly thing as always because that's what you are. A cowardly little shite. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:10pm Frank wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Does the report show that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims? A simple yes or no will suffice. (And remember, 84 is more than 16) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:07pm
A simple yes or no will suffice, old boy.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:11pm Karnal wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
He's still reading the report. I'm sure he'll give us his answer soon. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 16th, 2018 at 11:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:11pm:
I'm sure he will, Greggery. The old boy would never play the shifty, evasive, yeah-but-no-but spineless apologist game. He has intelligent and integrity. There's not a mendacious bone in his body. Well, his corpse, anyway. We'll wait and see. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:05pm
Apologists to the left of me.. sycophants to the right - and here I am - stuck in the middle with YOU lot!!
Stop The Muslim Invasion! For Morrison - Stop The Boasts! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:11pm
I take it Mussos generally are not ethnics nor are they nationalist?
Let's go to the man in the street.. "Hello Mohamed - are you German? "No - I'm Iraqi..." "Are you French, sir?" "Palestinian..." ... and now to extend our coverage of this issue, we cross you live to Australia, to a road rage incident... "You focker.. I'm Lebanese.. I'll come for your whole family!" "Now we return you to our panel.... Professor Karnal Peccary, advocate Brian Ross....and a hooded dissenter known only as The Grappler... Professor Peccary... when a national of any nation states clearly that he or she is NOT of that nation, but of their ... 'old country'... does this make of them a 'nationalist' in some way? Principally other than the nation in which they currently reside?" |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Oct 17th, 2018 at 6:35pm Karnal wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
NO. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 17th, 2018 at 6:46pm
There you go, Greggery, it's a no.
Year 9 maths, innit. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:42pm Karnal wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
16 is more than 84. Who knew? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:16pm I wish to publically thank greggerypeccary for giving us the proof that: muslims (jihadists / islamic terrorism) are the main terror threat in Europe with islamic religious terror. muslims (jihadists / islamic terrorism) slaughter and wound the most people in Europe with their islamic religious terror. Thank you GP for confirming that the above is a truth which no one can dispute. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 17th, 2018 at 11:36pm moses wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:16pm:
No probs. "Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:39pm
I know it must have been traumatic for you gpeccary to reveal that muslims are the major threat in Europe and that they slaughter and injure more innocent people than any body else.
So here you go one more time to help you handle this fact. I wish to publically thank greggerypeccary for giving us the proof that: muslims (jihadists / islamic terrorism) are the main terror threat in Europe with islamic religious terror. muslims (jihadists / islamic terrorism) slaughter and wound the most people in Europe with their islamic religious terror. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:40pm moses wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:39pm:
"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations." |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by moses on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:52pm
Don't worry too much gpecc, you'll get over it in time, you've done the right thing telling us that:
Europol says that jihadist (islamic) terror is the main threat? Europol also says that jihadists (islamic terrorists) slaughter and wound the highest number of people. The threat level in Europe is acute. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Secret Wars on Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:24pm
What a battle of intellectual heavyweights. ::)
;D ;D ;D Who posts the most and last wins eh? In that case my money is on Gregg. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 7:31pm Secret Wars wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:24pm:
Sad init but it's what Greg brings to the debate, if you can call it that. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 18th, 2018 at 7:59pm Secret Wars wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 4:24pm:
The only way a terrorist can win is to mindlessly breed! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 18th, 2018 at 7:59pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Greg brings terror.... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:21pm TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 7:59pm:
If you can call inane boredom terror. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:24pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
I bring the facts. The thread title is: "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge" I've provided indisputable proof that confirms this fact. It's what I do. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:24pm:
So you are saying members should be more pedantic in their topics? Like Islamic terrorism is the top priority of EU States and Interpol or Islamic terrorism causes more mayhem and death in Europe that all other terrorism combined? Then you would of course agree with them? I know what you do. :P |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:34pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
Nothing to do with being pedantic. It's about staying on topic, and presenting the facts. The thread title is: "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge" And, I've provided indisputable proof that confirms this fact. No pedantry. Nothing misleading. No lies. No confusion. Just the facts. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
There you have it folks. If you want to start a thread on Islamic terror in Europe, just use the death toll or what Interpol are most concerned about. Not numbers of attacks but death toll. Easy peasy. Gregg will then agree with you. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:57pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:21pm:
Its called a war of attrition... wake up buddy! :D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:59pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
attrition əˈtrɪʃ(ə)n] NOUN the process of reducing something's strength or effectiveness through sustained attack or pressure. "the council is trying to wear down the opposition by attrition" · [more] synonyms: wearing down · wearing away · weakening · debilitation · enfeebling · [more] NORTH AMERICAN AUSTRALIAN / NEW ZEALAND the gradual reduction of a workforce by employees leaving and not being replaced rather than by redundancy. "the company said that it will reduce its worldwide employment by about 10% through attrition" wearing away by friction; abrasion. "the skull shows attrition of the edges of the teeth" synonyms: abrasion · friction · rubbing · chafing · corroding · corrosion · [more] (in scholastic theology) sorrow for sin, falling short of contrition. attrition əˈtrɪʃ(ə)n] NOUN the process of reducing something's strength or effectiveness through sustained attack or pressure. "the council is trying to wear down the opposition by attrition" · [more] synonyms: wearing down · wearing away · weakening · debilitation · enfeebling · [more] NORTH AMERICAN AUSTRALIAN / NEW ZEALAND the gradual reduction of a workforce by employees leaving and not being replaced rather than by redundancy. "the company said that it will reduce its worldwide employment by about 10% through attrition" wearing away by friction; abrasion. "the skull shows attrition of the edges of the teeth" synonyms: abrasion · friction · rubbing · chafing · corroding · corrosion · [more] (in scholastic theology) sorrow for sin, falling short of contrition. attrition əˈtrɪʃ(ə)n] NOUN the process of reducing something's strength or effectiveness through sustained attack or pressure. "the council is trying to wear down the opposition by attrition" · [more] synonyms: wearing down · wearing away · weakening · debilitation · enfeebling · [more] NORTH AMERICAN AUSTRALIAN / NEW ZEALAND the gradual reduction of a workforce by employees leaving and not being replaced rather than by redundancy. "the company said that it will reduce its worldwide employment by about 10% through attrition" wearing away by friction; abrasion. "the skull shows attrition of the edges of the teeth" synonyms: abrasion · friction · rubbing · chafing · corroding · corrosion · [more] (in scholastic theology) sorrow for sin, falling short of contrition. attrition əˈtrɪʃ(ə)n] NOUN the process of reducing something's strength or effectiveness through sustained attack or pressure. "the council is trying to wear down the opposition by attrition" · [more] synonyms: wearing down · wearing away · weakening · debilitation · enfeebling · [more] NORTH AMERICAN AUSTRALIAN / NEW ZEALAND the gradual reduction of a workforce by employees leaving and not being replaced rather than by redundancy. "the company said that it will reduce its worldwide employment by about 10% through attrition" wearing away by friction; abrasion. "the skull shows attrition of the edges of the teeth" synonyms: abrasion · friction · rubbing · chafing · corroding · corrosion · [more] (in scholastic theology) sorrow for sin, falling short of contrition. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:00pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
My claim has always been that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. Europol shows that I'm right. What's so hard to understand? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:01pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
gregs a terrorist: aslong as someone else does the real stuff he will keep up his end of the bargain by talking shite online ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:03pm
My claim has always been that every drop of blood spilt after 9-11 in the name of terrorism has been because of the muslims who commited 9-11!
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:00pm:
They now know how to frame their threads. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:08pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:06pm:
I didn't start this thread. Yadda did. He attributed this quote to me: "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem". (and yes, I've said this many, many times) And, it turns out that I was 100% correct. Where's the issue? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:13pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:08pm:
Personally I have no prob with that. What I have a prob with is you playing the pedant. Most people could see it as the "most" deadly, "most" disruptive etc. You choose to be pedantic and play word games when you know exactly what they mean. You go gurl. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:16pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
It's not what they mean - it's what I mean. I said that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims. Europol says I'm 100% correct. No pedantry. No word games. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:20pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:16pm:
So you wholeheartedly agree Islamic terrorism is the most deadly, most intractable and most serious terrorism the EU is facing? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:20pm:
No. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:36pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21pm:
Which part of it would you disagree with? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:57pm Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:36pm:
So none of it? You are just saying "no"? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 10:04pm
Is that like fingers in your ears screaming lalalalalala? Gregg?
Anyway, members, you know how to frame your argument from now on to sidestep Gregg's pedantry. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Cu Chullain on Oct 18th, 2018 at 10:12pm
Islamic terror is the most deadly and the most concerning of terrorism in the EU per Gregg's Europol links. But be aware it has nothing to do with Islam. They are just very naughty boys and girls with the odd case of mental illness. Nothing to do with Islam at all, remember that bit.
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 18th, 2018 at 10:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:21pm:
That's not what they say - I gave you a graph....... you gotta accept it - from 2014 on the 21st Century has been all Satan's.. via his Muslim buddies... |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:06am TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
9/11 was in Amerika, Death. It's a different continent. Now, if you're having problems with incontinence, try Protekt. Comfortable, absorbent, discrete. Rated 9 out of 10 for security, Protekt will keep you calm, even on those wet, muddy days. Try us today! |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Българин on Nov 5th, 2018 at 1:46pm Yeah. I as a European, know that. Most of the terror attacks are not done by Moslems. They are done by Congoids. Use Google and you'll see. It's funny. Congoids often say they're Christian and carry Jesus' cross on bracelets and necklaces but they do just the opposite that's in the Bible. Just your regular thugs and welfare beggars who are like chameleons, hiding in plain sight so they can steal even more. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5th, 2018 at 1:47pm Българин wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
We ALL know that. Some just don't like to admit it, though. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Nov 5th, 2018 at 5:50pm Българин wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
They are called people of 'African appearance' here. Same thing, though. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Nov 5th, 2018 at 10:41pm Frank wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 5:50pm:
Nonsense. They're called Gollywogs, as every schoolboy knows. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by TheFunPolice on Nov 6th, 2018 at 1:14pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:06am:
Um, ever heard of globalism? **** Honestly: you don't even try anymore :D |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Frank on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:51pm Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 10:41pm:
They ARE gollywogs but are referred to as 'African appearance Strayans'. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Nov 6th, 2018 at 10:57pm Frank wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
You? |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Българин on Nov 6th, 2018 at 11:31pm Aah I see now. I've heard this word recently. It's a slang, right? For someone of an African descent? Someone in the other forum showed me how they banned these sweets with the name Gollywog because of "racism". Same thing with Bulgaria's greatest cookies. They're suing them because of their name. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Karnal on Nov 7th, 2018 at 2:57am Българин wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 11:31pm:
I know. You can't even say k00n anymore, or n!ggr@. FD still let's you say Boong, but we're living on borrowed time with that, I feel. Sounds like you have it tough over in Bulgaria. The old boy felt the same back in poor old Denmark. It's hard being so victimised, but things will improve, don't you worry. Have you ever thought of coming to Australia to educate us? We could learn a thing or two from your superior victim mentality, Bulgarian. The old boy's opened up a consultancy. He's doing very nicely, thank you. |
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Title: Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Post by Българин on Nov 7th, 2018 at 11:39am Karnal wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 2:57am:
Well, we still use the word negar, which is very similar to the German neger, because around here we don't have another word for an African. And negar is way shorter and user-friendlier to say, and all the people are used to it for hundreds of years. It's not being said to insult actually, because in reality, insults to negars are different than just saying negar. Insults to negars here are like "Ei, you monkey!, or maybe "See, a primate!", or sometimes "He escaped the zoo, this gibbon!". It always has something to do with bananas I reckon. And the Bulgarian cookies brand that got sued because they sold the Negarche cookies (Little neger cookies) won and the case was dismissed. Which is a good thing to cheer about. About the other thing... 1. Who's old boy? 2. I could of course and am always open to new things and adventures but I don't think the victim mentality goes here. I mean, around Montana, Vidin and Vratsa cities, the Northwest, poorest region in Bulgaria and probably why people say we're so poor, your average salary is $250 /a month and nobody complains. It's beyong me how you get an emolument of just $250 for working 25 days a month, 9 hours a day, and when only your monthly rent is $250. They probably live with their parents and don't have to pay, I don't know. Around Sofia, Sveti Vlas, Veliko Tarnovo, Bansko, Varna and Burgas it's different, most people won't work for less than $700–$4000 a month. It depends on what your specialisation is. I mean, no bartender will get $2000, obviously, but IT professionals get paid up to $3000-$4000 a month. I do complain a lot, because I want things changed for the better. I mean, if we don't advance why do we live. Might as well go jump off a cliff now. For example when I see someone littering, if it's convinient for me I'll get his trash off the ground and put it in his pocket or throw it inside his car. I also often report drivers who park how they want, and often park on grassplots or gardens in the city. We have a mobile app here for Android and iOS and all it takes you is to take a photo, a clear photo where the infraction can be seen, and his number plate, send the photo, then the Police will call you, you go to your nearest PD and sign a blank, write if you want to stay anonymous or not, and they send him a ticket, a pretty nice one too. So yeah I don't think that's victim mentality per se, and it's not for nothing. The typical victim mentality is how some SJW complains about manspreading, which thank god it's not even known here. There's no such word for "manspreading" here, it's nowhere in the news or the forum discussion boards, and nobody has heard about it. Spain banned manspreading. It's illegal now, so now Spaniards have to lift their balls up and stick them in their a*s. That's by my realizations the typical victim mentality, enforced by the Western feminists and their White Knight men. |
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