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Member Run Boards >> Environment >> Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1529894527 Message started by The Mechanic on Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:42pm |
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Title: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by The Mechanic on Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:42pm Quote:
fair dinkum... and they still try to push this garbage?? and whats worse... people still believing them.!! ::) 30yearsago.jpg (179 KB | 36
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:44pm
Whats worse is people not referencing.
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by Bobby on Jun 26th, 2018 at 6:41pm
Good post Mechanic ,
what's scary is that most of the media still follow the false predictions & report them as true. |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by The Mechanic on Jun 26th, 2018 at 8:26pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 6:41pm:
Thats Right... its sickening... >:( |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2018 at 8:53pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
The Gateway Pundit. "The website is known for publishing falsehoods and spreading hoaxes." |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by lee on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:07pm
Also referenced in the Wall St Journal.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/thirty-years-on-how-well-do-global-warming-predictions-stand-up-1529623442 Also a piece in the New Yorker - https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/listening-to-james-hansen-on-climate-change-thirty-years-ago-and-now ;) |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by DonDeeHippy on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 8:55am
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/06/06/climate-change-may-warmest-record-usa/676907002/
May was warmest on record for USA, breaking mark set during Dust Bowl May shattered heat records across the U.S. as sizzling warmth was reported nationwide, federal scientists announced Wednesday. In addition, not only was it the warmest May on record across the country, but almost 8,600 local heat records were also broken or tied during the month.... Yup nothing to see here....... ;) ;) Wasn't 6 years out of the last 10 years in USA the hottest ever ? Just wondering. ;) ;) |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by lee on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 11:35am DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 8:55am:
According to NOAA wasn't the global temperature in 1997 62.45ºF? According to NOAA wasn't 2016, the hottest year "evah", 58.69ºF? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Then of course you would have to prove it is AGW and not natural warming. |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by Imrah on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 12:15pm
A science needs a few hundred years of sensible logic before it can be trusted. When they're young, their like rampant delinquent teenagers. Do more harm than good overall.
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by DonDeeHippy on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm lee wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 11:35am:
Well 30 years ago they said the earth was going to heat up and in the last 10 years tempetures have been the highests since they have been monitoring, sounds like a pretty sound prediction to me. you keep supporting bobby on the new ice age and its not getting colder,,,, so u don't believe the ice age is happening ? SO your saying that 97 was the hottest year Lee ? or just throwing around stuff to muddle the waters. What do U say about the last 10 years and how hot they have been ? ;) ;) ;) |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by DonDeeHippy on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:33pm Imrah wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 12:15pm:
Just look at all the poisons we r putting in the air and our oceans and land, do u really think we should keep doing this ? ;) ;) if they r right though and we don't change how we live, in 200 years no one might be living... do u want to take that chance for the science to mature ? ;) ;) |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by lee on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:48pm DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
You have heard that correlation is not causation? B DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
Hey that's what NOAA says. I just repeat it. If you don't like the way they do science complain to them. DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
They haven't been hot here. "The global annual temperature for combined land and ocean surfaces in 2007 was +0.55°C (+0.99°F) above the 20th century average" https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/200713 So similar to below 0.99°F+57.0°F = 57.99°F. So the difference between 2007 and the hottest "evah" is 0.8°F or 0.45°C. Did you notice the difference where you live? "The global average temperature of 62.45 degrees Fahrenheit for 1997 was the warmest year on record" https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/199713 " The average global temperature across land and ocean surface areas for 2016 was 0.94°C (1.69°F) above the 20th century average of 13.9°C (57.0°F)" https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201613 |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by DonDeeHippy on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 3:13pm DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
Yes Lee lots more quotes and such but what do u think ? was 97 the hottest year and have the last 10 years been hot or not ? ;) ;) |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by lee on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 3:17pm DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 3:13pm:
I think if NOAA is correct it has not warmed. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 3:13pm:
I never noticed it being hot in 1997, that I recall. Maybe you have a different memory. Please share |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by minarchist on Sep 17th, 2018 at 2:33pm lee wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:48pm:
The adjustments were made to account for changes in weather station locations, improvements in technology and distortions due to urban growth near the weather stations. The long term trends still point to an increase in average global temperatures: No climate conspiracy: NOAA temperature adjustments bring data closer to pristine |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by lee on Sep 17th, 2018 at 3:08pm minarchist wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
So why do they adjust upwards for UHI? Surely UHI should be downward adjusted? minarchist wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
So what should be the amount of anomaly assessed by NOAA? To 1/100's of a degree or use GISS estimations when the raw data for the estimation given by Gavin Schmidt gives +/- 0.5C? "But think about what happens when we try and estimate the absolute global mean temperature for, say, 2016. The climatology for 1981-2010 is 287.4±0.5K, and the anomaly for 2016 is (from GISTEMP w.r.t. that baseline) 0.56±0.05ºC. So our estimate for the absolute value is (using the first rule shown above) is 287.96±0.502K, and then using the second, that reduces to 288.0±0.5K. The same approach for 2015 gives 287.8±0.5K, and for 2014 it is 287.7±0.5K. All of which appear to be the same within the uncertainty. Thus we lose the ability to judge which year was the warmest if we only look at the absolute numbers." http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2017/08/observations-reanalyses-and-the-elusive-absolute-global-mean-temperature/ And even then see how Schmidt finds an anomaly to 3 decimal places. Accuracy vs Precision? On an estimate? How do they know how much to adjust previous data for UHI? |
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Title: Re: Global Warming, 30 Years of Failed Predictions... Post by juliar on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:47pm
Global climate warm and cool cycles have been going on for centuries and are nothing unnatural or new at all.
Weather/Climate goes in cycles. There has been bad droughts in Australia before and there will be bad droughts again in the future. Warm and cool Global Climate changes goes in approximately 11 year cycles and is strongly suspected to be controlled by the 11 year sunspot cycles of the sun. Past documents support this theory. Currently sunspot activity is low and accordingly there is a cycle of Global Cooling as evidenced by the very cold weather being experienced around the world. This all makes a mockery of the Greenies' Global Warming HOAX which is nothing more than a MASSIVE FRAUD perpetrated by the UN to try to move wealth from rich nations to poorer nations. Of course the rather dumb gullible Greeny types are too thick to even begin to understand the FACTS. |
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