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Message started by whiteknight on Apr 16th, 2018 at 3:51pm

Title: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by whiteknight on Apr 16th, 2018 at 3:51pm
All ACT government vehicles to be electric by 2021     :)

Canberra Times
April 16 2018

The ACT government will today announce a suite of measures to encourage Canberra's drivers to move to electric vehicles, as part of the plan to make the territory emissions neutral by 2050.

Climate Change and Sustainability Minister Shane Rattenbury and Transport and City Services Minister Meegan Fitzharris will launch the government's "Transition to Zero Emissions Vehicles Action Plan," which covers both electric cars and electric bikes.

Under the plan the government has committed to half of newly leased government fleet passenger vehicles to be zero-emissions by 2019-2020, and all newly leased government passenger vehicles to be zero emissions by 2020-2021.

All new multi-unit and mixed-use developments will be required to have charging stations for electric cars.

The ACT government has pushed for the territory to use only renewable electricity by 2020, meaning that vehicles will become the territory's biggest emitter of greenhouse gases at about 60 per cent.

"The electric vehicle market is taking off globally and while that is outside of the ACT government’s influence, what we need to do is make sure that we’re putting in place all of the steps to prepare Canberra for the arrival of electric vehicles on a larger scale,” Mr Rattenbury said.

Starting later this year, hybrid and electric cars will be able to drive in transit lanes until 2023.

The ACT government will also consult with the NSW government and local councils to push for more charging stations to be installed on major roads, including toward Sydney and coastal areas.

There are less than 300 electric vehicles registered in the ACT at the moment, but that number is set to increase through the government's plan to move its fleet to electric vehicles.

"If we put in an order for 600-odd vehicles over the next couple of years that will be the largest electric vehicle order in Australia ever seen so far," Mr Rattenbury said.

"If we as the government take the lead and bring those vehicles in it will have the car manufacturers supply them more frequently and it also means that as they come out of the leasing system there will be more secondhand cars available for the community in the next couple of years."

The cost of the plan will mostly be covered in existing budgets, but the major expense will be installing charging stations at ACT government buildings to support the electric cars in the government fleet. That cost is not yet known and will be put out to tender.

Other measures in the plan include the opportunity for ACT government staff to salary sacrifice the purchase of an electric bike. The government will also investigate incentives to increase the take up of electric bikes.

In the 2016 census, 74.9 per cent of Canberrans said they drove to work, a five per cent increase on the 2011 census. Just over eight per cent of Canberrans rode to work, while 7.1 per cent said they used public transport.e electric

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 16th, 2018 at 4:07pm
Makes sense in ACT I guess.

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by The Mechanic on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" by electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 16th, 2018 at 8:45pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" by electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(


yeah just redirect some of the 11 billion each year the government pays as subsidies to fossil fuels.

h marketforces org au/campaigns/ffs/tax-based-subsidies/

awesome idea .

11 billion could help getting rid of poisons in the air instead of creating them.

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by lee on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:24pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
yeah just redirect some of the 11 billion each year the government pays as subsidies to fossil fuels.


Do you have a reference for that?

it doesn't jibe with figures I have provided before based on State and Federal budget papers.

That showed

Coal - $130m          $0.86/MWh
Solar - $2002m  $412.11/MWh
Wind - $388m      $41.64/MWh

http://www.minerals.org.au/file_upload/files/media_releases/Electricity_production_subsidies_in_Australia_FINAL.pdf

But if you have other figures please present them. Don't forget subsidies not the Social Cost of Carbon crap.

Also not IMF/ World Bank figures where depreciation becomes a subsidy.

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:52pm

lee wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
yeah just redirect some of the 11 billion each year the government pays as subsidies to fossil fuels.


Do you have a reference for that?

it doesn't jibe with figures I have provided before based on State and Federal budget papers.

That showed

Coal - $130m          $0.86/MWh
Solar - $2002m  $412.11/MWh
Wind - $388m      $41.64/MWh


But if you have other figures please present them. Don't forget subsidies not the Social Cost of Carbon crap.

Also not IMF/ World Bank figures where depreciation becomes a subsidy.


I'm sure the link says fossil fuels not just electricity subsidies  lee

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by lee on Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:06pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
I'm sure the link says fossil fuels not just electricity subsidies  lee


Read the link.

Then give us your link to the $11billion claim. ;)

We pay tax on fossil fuels. Not a subsidy. We pay GST on fossil fuels; not a subsidy. Please show us these subsidies.

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 17th, 2018 at 12:41pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" by electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(




Ummm, so essentially you do have an issue with electric cars. Could you outline what your issue is here with the purchasing of electric cars in the ACT?

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 17th, 2018 at 9:49pm

lee wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:06pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
I'm sure the link says fossil fuels not just electricity subsidies  lee


Read the link.

Then give us your link to the $11billion claim. ;)

We pay tax on fossil fuels. Not a subsidy. We pay GST on fossil fuels; not a subsidy. Please show us these subsidies.

here it is again Lee, remember until I do 100 posts I'm not allowed to post up a link
h marketforces org au/campaigns/ffs/tax-based-subsidies/

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 17th, 2018 at 9:52pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 17th, 2018 at 12:41pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" by electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(




Ummm, so essentially you do have an issue with electric cars. Could you outline what your issue is here with the purchasing of electric cars in the ACT?


I just think he would rather they buy cars that no one ,unless they want to die would stay in a garage if the motor is on.

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by The Mechanic on Apr 18th, 2018 at 12:47pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 17th, 2018 at 12:41pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" by electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(




Ummm, so essentially you do have an issue with electric cars. Could you outline what your issue is here with the purchasing of electric cars in the ACT?


if you want an electric car then put your money where your Loud Mouth is...

stop expecting governments to HAND you everything...

STOP spending tax payers money own expensive "gifts" that you wont buy for YOURSELF>..

its like all the whining greenie buttholes on this forum...

their extent to living Green is copying and pasting stories they pulled off the interwebs...

PUT UP OR SHUT UP...

NOT ONE of you lazy ****s have invested in a Solar System

have solar hot water

live off grid

have an electric car and charge it off Solar power only

have wind power

recycle

have a worm farm and/or A & A septic system

catch your own water

grow your own vegetables

have bee hives for honey and polination

run a Biogas system for cooking

have sustainable heating and cooling

.........

so until you start living in an eco friendly way...

SHUT THE **** UP......

you have no idea what you are talking about..  >:(

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2018 at 12:50pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 12:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 17th, 2018 at 12:41pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" by electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(




Ummm, so essentially you do have an issue with electric cars. Could you outline what your issue is here with the purchasing of electric cars in the ACT?


if you want an electric car then put your money where your Loud Mouth is...

stop expecting governments to HAND you everything...

STOP spending tax payers money own expensive "gifts" that you wont buy for YOURSELF>..

its like all the whining greenie buttholes on this forum...

their extent to living Green is copying and pasting stories they pulled off the interwebs...

PUT UP OR SHUT UP...

NOT ONE of you lazy ****s have invested in a Solar System

have solar hot water

live off grid

have an electric car and charge it off Solar power only

have wind power

recycle

have a worm farm and/or A & A septic system

catch your own water

grow your own vegetables

have bee hives for honey and polination

run a Biogas system for cooking

have sustainable heating and cooling

.........

so until you start living in an eco friendly way...

SHUT THE **** UP......

you have no idea what you are talking about..  >:(




Neither do you, do you actually understand what the plan is? State and territory governments on a regular basis lease cars for their purposes as govt tranpsort, company cars etc. This will not be stopping or starting, all that is happening in the ACT is that instead of leasing petrol/diesel powered cars in the future, they will be leasing electric cars.


Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by The_Barnacle on Apr 18th, 2018 at 12:56pm

Quote:
Under the plan the government has committed to half of newly leased government fleet passenger vehicles to be zero-emissions by 2019-2020, and all newly leased government passenger vehicles to be zero emissions by 2020-2021.



President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" buy electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(


It seems that mechanic doesn't know the difference between leasing and buying

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 18th, 2018 at 4:30pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 12:56pm:

Quote:
Under the plan the government has committed to half of newly leased government fleet passenger vehicles to be zero-emissions by 2019-2020, and all newly leased government passenger vehicles to be zero emissions by 2020-2021.



President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" buy electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(


It seems that mechanic doesn't know the difference between leasing and buying




INdeed, regardless of what they buy my taxes still go to it,

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Apr 18th, 2018 at 4:46pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" by electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(

Why does the mechanic have a problem with subsidy all of a sudden?

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by Bobby on Apr 18th, 2018 at 5:11pm
This thread shows that Nail was right all along about electric cars.

Longweekend should apologise.

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by The Mechanic on Apr 18th, 2018 at 7:19pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 4:46pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" by electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(

Why does the mechanic have a problem with subsidy all of a sudden?


you either haven't been paying attention and/or you are a liar...

Subsidies DON'T work...

who do you think pays me $1500 a year in solar feedin Tariffs  :) :) :)

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 18th, 2018 at 9:39pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 12:47pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 17th, 2018 at 12:41pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
aren't they great with other peoples money...

lets see everyone within that government "personally" by electric cars themselves before they splash the tax payers money on fuzzy warm touchy feely stuff...  >:(




Ummm, so essentially you do have an issue with electric cars. Could you outline what your issue is here with the purchasing of electric cars in the ACT?


if you want an electric car then put your money where your Loud Mouth is...

stop expecting governments to HAND you everything...

STOP spending tax payers money own expensive "gifts" that you wont buy for YOURSELF>..

its like all the whining greenie buttholes on this forum...

their extent to living Green is copying and pasting stories they pulled off the interwebs...

PUT UP OR SHUT UP...

NOT ONE of you lazy ****s have invested in a Solar System

have solar hot water

live off grid

have an electric car and charge it off Solar power only

have wind power

recycle

have a worm farm and/or A & A septic system

catch your own water

grow your own vegetables

have bee hives for honey and polination

run a Biogas system for cooking

have sustainable heating and cooling

.........

so until you start living in an eco friendly way...

SHUT THE **** UP......

you have no idea what you are talking about..  >:(


ohh dear of all your points u didn't actually answer his question, u did a lot of name calling ,generalising and general bad manners but u didn't answer the question

Ummm, so essentially you do have an issue with electric cars. Could you outline what your issue is here with the purchasing of electric cars in the ACT?


he didn't ask for anyone to hand him anything, he didnt say he lived low enviromental foot print , but hey the rant did sound impressive



Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 19th, 2018 at 9:47am
I didnt need to answer his question, it made no sense aand was irrelevant to the discussion.

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by The Mechanic on Apr 19th, 2018 at 12:23pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 9:47am:
I didnt need to answer his question, it made no sense aand was irrelevant to the discussion.


oh course...

you only expect everyone to answer YOUR questions... not the other way around...

you are a Fake Greenie... like many others on here...

shut your hole until you have an electric car and remove yourself from the Grid..

or at least, make an attempt to do so...

you are like the Socialist Elite... tell everyone else how they should live their lives while jet setting around the world in private Jets and having one of the biggest dirtiest footprints...

grub..  ::)

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 19th, 2018 at 12:25pm
Thats because my questions are relevant.

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 19th, 2018 at 12:26pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 12:23pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 9:47am:
I didnt need to answer his question, it made no sense aand was irrelevant to the discussion.


oh course...

you only expect everyone to answer YOUR questions... not the other way around...

you are a Fake Greenie... like many others on here...

shut your hole until you have an electric car and remove yourself from the Grid..

or at least, make an attempt to do so...

you are like the Socialist Elite... tell everyone else how they should live their lives while jet setting around the world in private Jets and having one of the biggest dirtiest footprints...

grub..  ::)


And  again, I'm not sure you understand here whats actually occurring. Do you know what leasing is?

Title: Re: All ACT Govt Vehicles To Be Electric By 2021
Post by DonDeeHippy on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:00am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 12:23pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 9:47am:
I didnt need to answer his question, it made no sense aand was irrelevant to the discussion.


oh course...


you only expect everyone to answer YOUR questions... not the other way around...

you are a Fake Greenie... like many others on here...

shut your hole until you have an electric car and remove yourself from the Grid..

or at least, make an attempt to do so...

you are like the Socialist Elite... tell everyone else how they should live their lives while jet setting around the world in private Jets and having one of the biggest dirtiest footprints...

grub..  ::)


When u can’t debate the subject attack the messenger.


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