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Message started by The Mechanic on Mar 29th, 2018 at 9:28pm

Title: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by The Mechanic on Mar 29th, 2018 at 9:28pm

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Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton’s remarks about white South African farmers, including possibly granting them special immigration consideration, evoked charges of “discrimination” and even “racism”.

Mind you, the latter epithet is now so shop-soiled by misuse that sensible people no longer usually pay it much attention.

The “discrimination” charge, however, leads to a basic question about our immigration policies, namely:

what’s wrong with commonsense policies that discriminate between culturally compatible immigrants (say, Christians) or too often not (Muslims); costly to taxpayers or less so; potential contributors or “victims”; and so on?

We discriminate daily in many ways. We avoid sitting beside that bloke talking to himself, or that obese woman occupying most of the seat.

Around our kitchen tables (to former Human Rights Commissioner Gillian Triggs’s horror) we laugh on seeing photos of someone as “white” as ourselves claiming Aboriginality, whereas we would never laugh at a genuine Aboriginal from, say, Arnhem Land.

Why not exercise similar common sense when choosing those immigrants whom we admit to permanent residence (and prospective citizenship)?

Years ago (September 2010) I wrote in Quadrant about what I called the “self-inflicted wounds” from aspects of our immigration policies.

Today, when Melbourne’s newspapers daily report the violent ethnic crimes occurring there, I recall then asking why we had been admitting people from such war-torn and otherwise violent hell-holes as South Sudan, Somalia and assorted West African countries.

People from such environments have become habituated to violence, and when that was also associated with an inability to speak English and poor educational attainments, we were asking for trouble.

I don’t defend the contemptible Andrews government, but it would be fully justified, when criticized by its federal counterparts, in saying it was federal policies, not State ones, that led to all this.

The key point about immigration policy is that Australia is such a prized destination for would-be emigrants that we have no need to seek out immigrants – the problem is, rather, to choose whom we take.

Since choice, by definition, implies priorities, we need seriously to consider on what bases that inherent “discrimination” should be founded. Let me suggest a few.

Most obvious is English-speaking ability. World refugee camps harbour millions of English-speaking residents who, if chosen, would immediately be able to get a job, converse with their new neighbours and “fit in” generally.

Why then do we allow the UN High Commissioner for Refugees to impose on us all these people who can’t speak our language – many of whom, five or even ten years later, are still not speaking it while remaining on taxpayer-funded welfare?

That’s stupid, and Dutton should tell his complaisant officials to wake up to themselves.

The same non-discriminatory nonsense permeates both our family reunion and our so-called “skilled” migration streams.

Nobody objects to our importing, when required, professional engineers (say), but why does the latter stream still include such people as chefs, accountants (already in gross over-supply), lawyers (ditto), and again the list goes on?


Or consider the rackets notoriously surrounding our student visa program.

Despite these having been exposed time and again by Dr Bob Birrell and his Australian Population Research Institute, scores of thousands of young fraudsters (particularly though not only Chinese and Indians) posing as students enter Australia, work (often illegally) during most of their time here, acquire some worthless accreditation from some complicit university or some shonky vocational education and training college, then apply for permanent residence with a high chance of being successful because they’ve already lived here for four years or more.

But were we to require all foreign students to leave Australia on completing their courses (as we once did), howls of “discrimination” and “racism” would immediately arise – not least from those universities and VETs abetting the racket.

The bottom line, politically, is this: immigration, both as to its rate and composition, is going to figure hugely at the next election, probably even more than the other big issue, energy costs. If the Coalition parties refuse to recognise this, they’ll have only themselves to blame.

John Stone is a former Treasury Secretary (1979-1984) and former National Party Senate leader (1987-1990).


Nailed it...

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 29th, 2018 at 10:06pm
The moment the PC dick-weeds took control of government, unions, public service, education, and even the military.

Why do you need to ask?

This nation has been at war with itself for forty years now..... and all that is left is for the vultures to pick up the pieces.....

Bring in the White farmers from South Africa... why should they be excluded when any Sallow can get recognition?

TF is wrong with this nation these days?

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by freediver on Mar 29th, 2018 at 10:07pm
Perhaps if they shared a common religion or dress style Gandalf would tell us it is all about racism.

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Setanta on Mar 29th, 2018 at 10:13pm
As far as I am concerned... Welkom by Australië Afrikaners.

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by .JaSin. on Mar 29th, 2018 at 10:57pm
Its probably all the Anti-Apartheid RACISTS that are fleeing (Karma) South Africa to Australia, while the decent ones are staying in their 'homeland' to help make it a better place against adversities with their fellow 'non-racist' black people.

Only 'racists' would see Australia as being for 'whites' only and Africa for 'blacks only'. ::)


Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Setanta on Mar 29th, 2018 at 11:00pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 29th, 2018 at 10:57pm:
Its probably all the Anti-Apartheid RACISTS that are fleeing (Karma) South Africa to Australia, while the decent ones are staying in their 'homeland' to help make it a better place against adversities with their fellow 'non-racist' black people.

Only 'racists' would see Australia as being for 'whites' only and Africa for 'blacks only'. ::)


I don't see anyone saying Australia is for whites only, quite the opposite, I do see at least one member saying Africa is for the Blacks only. That is denying we are all African, isn't it? Africa is for the world, we are all African. It is our collective homeland.


Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by .JaSin. on Mar 29th, 2018 at 11:06pm
Time is an illusion,
just like 'space' (distance) which Columbus crossed.

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Valkie on Mar 30th, 2018 at 5:46pm
You can only be a racist if you are white.


Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 30th, 2018 at 6:15pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWZ2adCaKo4

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Dnarever on Mar 30th, 2018 at 9:14pm
Since when was common sense discrimination?

It's more a case of people who have none using it as an excuse for discrimination.


Maybe it is just that - Common Sense Is Not So Common - (François-Marie Arouet).

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Mar 30th, 2018 at 9:17pm

Valkie wrote on Mar 30th, 2018 at 5:46pm:
You can only be a racist if you are white.

Amen!

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Mar 30th, 2018 at 9:21pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 29th, 2018 at 10:06pm:
The moment the PC dick-weeds took control of government, unions, public service, education, and even the military.

Why do you need to ask?

This nation has been at war with itself for forty years now..... and all that is left is for the vultures to pick up the pieces.....

Bring in the White farmers from South Africa... why should they be excluded when any Sallow can get recognition?

TF is wrong with this nation these days?

It's globalisation: save the world via feminism and equality for everything under the sun!

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Setanta on Mar 30th, 2018 at 9:25pm
There is no such thing as "common sense".

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Dnarever on Mar 30th, 2018 at 9:30pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 30th, 2018 at 9:25pm:
There is no such thing as "common sense".



I have a box full of common cents somewhere - they were common till they went out of circulation anyway.

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 31st, 2018 at 1:26am
I've got some various Sydney monorail tokens... must be worth something these days...

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by The_Barnacle on Mar 31st, 2018 at 10:46am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 29th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
Nailed it...


Who nailed it?

Mechanic can you please have the common sense to provide a link to the drivel that you post

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Karnal on Mar 31st, 2018 at 1:24pm

freediver wrote on Mar 29th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
Perhaps if they shared a common religion or dress style Gandalf would tell us it is all about racism.


Perhaps if they asked tourists not to walk on their spiritual sites, FD would call it racism.

It is a jolly world, no?

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 31st, 2018 at 2:58pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 1:24pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 29th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
Perhaps if they shared a common religion or dress style Gandalf would tell us it is all about racism.


Perhaps if they asked tourists not to walk on their spiritual sites, FD would call it racism.

It is a jolly world, no?


Are you an apologist for closing Ayers Rock to everyone but Aboriginals?  It's a spiritual part of all Australians and climbing it is a sort of rite of passage for everyone - let the Boongs share it like good children. and stop whining about their special place every bloody time it is a special place or worth a dollar.

Title: Re: Since when was common sense discrimination?
Post by Valkie on Apr 1st, 2018 at 9:37am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 1:24pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 29th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
Perhaps if they shared a common religion or dress style Gandalf would tell us it is all about racism.


Perhaps if they asked tourists not to walk on their spiritual sites, FD would call it racism.

It is a jolly world, no?


Are you an apologist for closing Ayers Rock to everyone but Aboriginals?  It's a spiritual part of all Australians and climbing it is a sort of rite of passage for everyone - let the Boongs share it like good children. and stop whining about their special place every bloody time it is a special place or worth a dollar.


They can walk through our cemetery any time they like.

But eventually they have to realize that they are the defeated, conquered people and what they say is worth diddly squat.

Perhaps if they actually did something
Like WORK
They might gain some credit.

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