greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 28th, 2018 at 8:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2018 at 4:34pm:
mozzaok wrote on Mar 28th, 2018 at 4:23pm:OK Aussie, I assure you we have all had enough of the silliness, so I will comprehensively address the issue that you falsely assumes holds some hidden trap.
It does not, it is perfectly straight forward.
Quote:Sharia in Aceh
Islamic law has been implemented to a limited degree in Aceh, the only province in Indonesia authorized by national legislation to implement Sharia (Islamic law). In 2001, Aceh adopted a form of Shariah law. In 2003, Aceh courts were granted freedom to use sharia law as part of an autonomy package the central government offered in an effort to quell separatism in the province, where thousands died in a long-running insurgency. Since Aceh adopted sharia in 2001, the province has implemented four qanun (Islamic bylaws) including one on Islamic propagation, one on khalwat — a bylaw where unmarried couples are punished for being in close proximity — one on alcoholic beverages and one on gambling. In 2009, Qanun Jinayat, a set of bylaws that replaces elements of the Criminal Code with sharia provisions for Muslims, was endorsed by the Aceh Legislative Council. |
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http://factsanddetails.com/indonesia/Government_Military_Crime/sub6_5b/entry-4069.html
The quote I have highlighted is just the first paragraph of a rather comprehensive piece that will educate you as to what I mean by Religious Courts, what FD does, and what almost every reasonably competent person would agree upon.
The short version is they run their own system of justice, SEPARATE from the normal common law secular justice system, based on RELIGIOUS teachings.
Indonesia granted Aceh this right in 2001, and extended it further in 2003 giving them autonomy to write and enforce, and judge their own Islamist laws. They started with three main laws, that were to apply only to muslims,but they then moved further towards full Sharia and applied these laws to all people. Now they wish to move further again and have some good old public head chopping for murderers.
The concern of fair and decent people is that the "next" step may well be head chopping for Apostates, Homosexuals, Adulterers, etc. plus lop off a few hands for petty thieves, stone people to death, and on, and on, it goes. The more they get, the more they demand, and it invariably heads the same way.
If you bother to follow the link you will find they actually overstepped their legally granted limits, and stoned someone to death, for a crime against Islam.
NOBODY was ever punished for THAT infraction.
So can you now see why people have grave reservations about "RELIGIOUS COURTS", and where their implementation leads? |
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You do realise that the US has the death penalty, as well as about 57 other countries, don't you?
Why are their reasons for killing criminals any better than Aceh's? |
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You know full-well, Greggery. Those people are Muslims. |
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Exactly.
That's the only reason I can see.
White non-Muslims kill prisoners = good.
Tinted Muslims kill prisoners = bad.
Incredible ::) |
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NOBODY is THAT stupid Mr Pig.
Not even when they are wallowing around seeking to justify the unjustifiable.
So I call you LIAR.
You know full well that, that is not what I have ever said, implied, or inferred.
That you seek to obfuscate the insanity of giving Religious Extremists the power to decide upon peoples fates, via canings, beheadings, stonings, etc. based upon what they read from a book written some 1200 to 1300 years ago.
The one where a guy says an Angel came down and told him he had a message from God, but he had to get it in a cave, because it was just for him to hear.
Well bugger me if old Mo did not get anything but, THE LAST and FINAL message that GOD will ever give, because what MO says is never to be challenged, changed, or updated in ANY WAY.
This is passed on by word of mouth( Chinese Whispers anyone? Always 100% reliable and accurate) for a few hundred years, then finally someone writes it down.
At this point we also get others telling their "STORIES" about Mo's life. A few hundred years later they were able to remember (make up) some impressive stuff.
I am thinking of doing similar about Isaac Newton's life. You know the style, one day he was sitting under an apple tree and got hit by a key hanging from the tail of an electric kite, and invented airplanes, AND electric guitars.
THE SORT OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION PEOPLE NEED WHEN DECIDING IF SOMEONE SHOULD BE EXECUTED.
In fact I have heard rumours that you once held hands with a female that was not your wife, sister or daughter.
If so please head up to Aceh right now and provide concrete support for the validity of their Religious Courts, and lay down for your CANING.
Only 80 strokes, a tough aussie bloke could certainly cope with that to support the rights of the massively downtrodden minorities you are inspired to defend.
Why not take a selfie while copping it? That would really show us that you believe what you say.
