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Title: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Panther on Mar 12th, 2018 at 12:27pm
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to Settle Her Native American Heritage Claims Source: THE WASHINGTON POST Quote:
Another wannabe bites the dust of her own phony claims. She just used the Native American's as footholds to climb up the Political Totem Pole. She's as Native American as Obama's Left-Testicle was/used to be (before the sex-change operation). ;D ;D ;D .. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:17pm Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
So she doesn't want to prove her heritage by taking and releasing a DNS Test, and that's enough for you to claim she is guilty of fraud? |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Karnal on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:28pm
Yes, Sad, that's all it takes.
Mr Trump claims his grandfather is Swedish (not German). Shall we ask for a DNA test? |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Panther on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:45pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
A more suitable word might be LIAR, because legally, FRAUD would require proving she used her Heritage Claims to wrongfully profit from her using them. Happier now?? |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:52pm Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Yes. You've put on the record that firstly, lying is bad, and secondly withholding information is an immediate ruling of guilty. This means Trump refusing to release his Tax Returns is an admission of guilt, and all the many lies he tells should each be held against him and he to account for them. I assume you support this given your posts above? |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Panther on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:58pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
Nope, Trump can keep his Private Tax Returns private if he wishes, & the election is over.....he won....TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, & most of the American People don't care what his Private Tax Returns said....only the losers care. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Panther on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:13pm Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
I'd love to see that bitch run for President against Trump......It would be great sport seeing President Trump kick her mangy, skank ass.......her only claim to fame is/was she CLAIMES to be Native American.......in a Ronny Reagan style landslide, where Reagan's rival, 'Where's the Beef' Fritz Mondale , won only one (1) State..... |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Karnal on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:30pm Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:13pm:
Oh, I'd say Americans know her as a politician, Panther. Now I know you're an Australian, I won't assume a knowledge of local issues in the US. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Panther on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:44pm Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
You apparently don't read..........but, I've forgotten more about American issues in 1 week, than you could ever hope to learn....or think you know about me.....in a lifetime. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Karnal on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:51pm Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:44pm:
I know, dear. You're not the only one. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:22pm Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:58pm:
You don't feel like that's a massive double standard? You've just made it clear any politician refusing to release information is automatically judged as guilty, but you then claim that doesn't apply to Trump because nobody cares? Since more people voted Dem than Republican even less people would care about this from Warren. So this thread is total bullshit then as she can keep her private heritage private if she wishes? You can't draw a line in the sand when attacking your opponents then rub it away to defend those you like. Either whatever the issue you're dealing with is acceptable or not. You can't have it both ways. You're a fine example of the typical Trump Supporter. Given we know Trump's financial ties with Russia, and that he is refusing to releasing them, by your logic he is guilty of conspiring with Russia and in break of multiple foreign interest laws for a Presidential Candidate. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Karnal on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:26pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:22pm:
Not only is it a double standard, there's good reason Mr Trump won't release his tax returns. It's only just starting to come out that his money is far from clean. I agree with Panther. These things should be transparent. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by longweekend58 on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:01pm
panther - like all trumptards - establish massive hypocrisy as their basic tool.
Trump refuses to give his tax returns or to be honest about pretty much anything at all and you complain about Warren refusing a DNA test? The reason is rather obvious. Only Republicans play the race card quite so transparently. Trump is a PROVEN fraud, but Panther the pedo-supporter wants to claim some moral high ground? What a scumbag is Panther. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Panther on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:22pm:
See the Above in red ;) |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by longweekend58 on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:07pm Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
You seem woefully unaware that the House will flip to Democrat control this year and pretty much no one but Trumptards thinks anything else. The senate is a long shot but acheivable. And once that happens, impeachment is assured and after being slaughtered in the mid-terms sue entirely to Trump-the-insane, the Republicans will throw him out pronto. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Panther on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:13pm Awwwwww ....... Did I forget to tell ya before I went on vacation? Sooooo Sorrrrry... ;D ;D |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by longweekend58 on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:25pm
And every time you post your ridiculous 'ignore' graphic you show how much of a coward you are and how I absolutely destroy your arguments so badly you have to run and hide.
You are too stupid to realise you are waving a white flag. Maybe the bone spurs have travelled to your brain. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Panther on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:38pm |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by longweekend58 on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:55pm
Repeating the proof that I am superior to you and that you are a coward seems rather stupid, but then...
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Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by The Mechanic on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:46pm Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
this woman... fair dinkum... has no shame... and as they call her... Pocahontas.. the Fake Indian... ::) Trump would Destroy her, her fake heritage and corruption... she is an absolute disgrace.. >:( |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Karnal on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:53pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
What do you know about this woman Elizabeth Warren, Panther? And what do you know about Pocohontas? I'm curious. I'm keen to know what you think. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by The Mechanic on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:57pm Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:53pm:
are you really that thick? Elizabeth Warren is not an INDIAN... she's a lying scheming bitch ripping off the American public and is corrupt.. and this is the BEST candidate the Democrats can put up?? good luck with that... ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by The Mechanic on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:58pm
Oprah Winfrey has also run for the hills and wont run for election...
gutless woman... shut your hole unless you are willing to get in the Ring... >:( |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Karnal on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:02pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:57pm:
Is that all you know about Elizabeth Warren, Mechanic? As far as I know, it's Mr Trump who talks about Pocohontas. Do you know who she was? Maybe Panther will tell us. You? |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Karnal on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:04pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
When did Oprah say she was running for president? But I'm curious. You said you voted in the last Dutch erection. Where are you from? |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Panther on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:16pm Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Source: Wikipedia Quote:
IMHO, Elizabeth Warren is not an Native American.....aka.....an INDIAN. As been said, she's a democ-rat, so she's probably a lying scheming bitch ripping off the American public and is corrupt. ;) ;D ;D I sincerely hope she wins the nomination, & runs against the Incumbent President Donald Trump......to put it mildly, for the Republicans it would be like shootin' ducks in a bucket! :D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Karnal on Mar 12th, 2018 at 11:20pm Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:16pm:
IMHO, Elizabeth Warren is not an Native American.....aka.....an INDIAN. As been said, she's a democ-rat, so she's probably a lying scheming bitch ripping off the American public and is corrupt. ;) ;D ;D I sincerely hope she wins the nomination, & runs against the Incumbent President Donald Trump......to put it mildly, for the Republicans it would be like shootin' ducks in a bucket! :D ;D ;D[/quote] So you know she's a Democrat, eh? Gee, Panther, that's deep. Do you want a go, Mechanic? |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Richdude on Mar 13th, 2018 at 12:32am
Ok so Pocahontas is a liar - just par for a Dem.
She was most impressive last night. Said she wouldn't seek the presidency - which is code for she will. She introduced new policies - she obviously has enough brains to see the wisdom of Trumps trade policies and has accepted them as her own. She also rallied against the power of big banks - something sacred for the Dems. She can see the shift in public opinion that Trump has started and wants to capitalize on the movement. Of course if she becomes pres she will ignore her pledges and press on with globalist agenda. You are right she is a FRAUD! You only get one Trump in a lifetime. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by longweekend58 on Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:53am
Sounds like our resident trumptards are a bit scared of Warren - or anyone else for that matter. After all, winning the 2020 presidency for a Democrat requires little more than showing up. After Trump, the american voter wants nothing to do with the REpublicans.
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Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 13th, 2018 at 11:01am Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
Ok... Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
Fine, you don't think there is a double standard. I'm not surprised, but how do you justify it? Trump was being asked to release his tax returns during the campaign, before he was elected but he refused. You're defending this saying he doesn't have to as this is private information: Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:58pm:
Ok then, you've set the precedent. So, Warren is not even in an election campaign yet, but she is already being attacked because the Trump camp and his supporters are scared this woman will topple him. So they're demanding she take a DNA test when there is no rules about ethnicity for being a Presidential Candidate, only that she was born in the US, which she was. She doesn't want to take and release the results of the DNA test. You should be defending this decision for the same reasons you defended Trump's, that is, this is her private information that she wished to keep private. Here, let me swap the names for you: Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 1:58pm:
Since you're not defending this, I ask, why is this not a double standard? Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
So now you are presenting OPINION as fact. Call it what you will, but you have judged her to be hiding the truth and covering something up simply because she wants to keep her private information, private. You are using this as justification to claim she is a Liar. Therefore by your own logic, Trump and his refusal to release his tax returns means he is also hiding the truth and covering something up, he is a liar. Or are we back to the double standard? Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
What is with this demands of proof? Again, double standard. Where is Trump's proof he's a billionaire? Let's see those Tax Returns. Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
But you want them to let Trump off the hook? Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
This is true, but when those you argue in favour of can't even live up to the standard you demand of your opponents, you've already lost the war. Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
I am, and all I've been seeing if you shooting yourself in the foot and destroying your own arguments by only selectively applying them to your opposition and not those you defend. You've shown that you don't really care at all about the position you put forward because not only do you not hold those you support to the same level, you defend them when they fall short. Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
You can try to dismiss what I'm saying since you can't counter by attacking me all you like. But the fact is you're hurting your cause and diluting your points by refusing to stand by them and only holding those you oppose to account. And I don't support Clinton. If given the choice I would have voted for her over Trump, but that would be an exercise of keeping the worst out by choosing the least objectionable option. Panther wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
But you've already jugded Warren to be lying and demand she provide proof..? And after all of this, you're attacking her for being a "LIAR!". Yet again, you not only do not hold Trump to account for his many many very public lies, but you go as far to DEFEND them. Do you even know what double standards means..? |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 13th, 2018 at 11:03am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:57pm:
And I suppose you have proof if this claims like you demand of others when it comes to Trump? I didn't think so. You almost have to be schizophrenic or have a multiple personality disorder to attack Trump's opponents for doing the same thing he does that you defend. There's that double standard again. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 13th, 2018 at 11:05am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
Roughly 323 million other Americans aren't running for election either, Mechanic. Are they gutless too? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 13th, 2018 at 11:16am greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 11:05am:
She also never said she was going to run. She used her 1st Amendment Rights to make comment on the Trump Administration and those comments resonated with lots of Americans, so many that they started calling for her to run for President. I'd prefer someone capable run against Trump, not another celebrity. Who ever it is in the White House post Trump, be in 2020, 2024 or sooner if he's held to account for his crimes, they will need to be the best and brightest with a great and capable team to help recover from his damage and corruption. But again, these attacks against Oprah are nothing more than Trump supporters showing their hand. They'd be petrified of her running because she'd likely destroy Trump. Better they attack her now so she doesn't run, just to be safe. Way to have confidence in your leader... And they're doing it to everyone who even hints at running against him. Having to play it so dirty only shows how worried his supporters are. |
Title: Re: 2020 DEM Frontrunner is just a FRAUD Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 13th, 2018 at 11:19am ProudKangaroo wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 11:16am:
Yep, you've nailed it. |
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