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Message started by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:43pm

Title: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:43pm
Bobby is a devotee, and Dubyne reckons Bobby is an Australian expert and resource on some looming ice age.

In a other Thread (and I tried to move the Off Topic posts from there to here....and failed) this issue came up.

So...we'll continure it here.

Bobby, you keep deleting my posts at your place which are critical of DeByne.  You reckon that's okay.

I don't.  He is open game, given you are saying he is not a messenger but rather someone who actually knows what he is talking about.

I am asking you what qualifications he has in climate science, and why you regard him as something more that a messenger?

This same bloke also says we will all be starving within a few years.  He also reckons the World's population will never reach 8 billion.  He is full of bullshit.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:50pm

Quote:
Aussie,
You're being disingenuous in that you're
trying to pretend that you don't understand my reasoning.


If anyone is being disingenuous, it is you Bobby, by deleting my posts which highlighted my criticism of that snake oil salesman.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 6:57pm
Bobby seems to have 'wunaway.'

:-?


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 8:00pm
Bobby.....where are you Bobby?  You haven't 'wunaway' have you?

:-?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 8:01pm
I can move them if you want them moved.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 8:02pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 8:01pm:
I can move them if you want them moved.


Please do.

Title: Re: Question on Bans
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 3:53pm
Dubyne is not a Member here, Bobby.

Does he post facts???  Or a rambling series of anecdotes.

What qualifications does he have in climate science, Bobby?  The answer is zero.  Why do you reckon he has any idea what he is babbling about?

Title: Re: Question on Bans
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 3:55pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 3:53pm:
Dubyne is not a Member here, Bobby.

Does he post facts???  Or a rambling series of anecdotes.



David posts facts.
You can't abuse anyone without facts -
and by the way he reads my forum quite a lot.

Title: Re: Question on Bans
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 3:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 3:53pm:
Dubyne is not a Member here, Bobby.

Does he post facts???  Or a rambling series of anecdotes.



David posts facts.
You can't abuse anyone without facts -
and by the way he reads my forum quite a lot.


Bullshit, Bobby.  He is at best merely a 'messenger.'

What qualifications does he have in climate science, Bobby?  The answer is zero.  Why do you reckon he has any idea what he is babbling about?

Title: Re: Question on Bans
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:09pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 3:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 3:53pm:
Dubyne is not a Member here, Bobby.

Does he post facts???  Or a rambling series of anecdotes.



David posts facts.
You can't abuse anyone without facts -
and by the way he reads my forum quite a lot.


Bullshit, Bobby.  He is at best merely a 'messenger.'

What qualifications does he have in climate science, Bobby?  The answer is zero.  Why do you reckon he has any idea what he is babbling about?



David posts facts and backs them up with links.

You can't abuse someone for that.

Title: Re: Question on Bans
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:11pm
So, is he a messenger, or does he actually know what he is talking about, Bobby?

What qualifications does he have in climate science, Bobby?  The answer is zero.  Why do you reckon he has any idea what he is babbling about?

Title: Re: Question on Bans
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:14pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:11pm:
So, is he a messenger, or does he actually know what he is talking about, Bobby?

What qualifications does he have in climate science, Bobby?  The answer is zero.  Why do you reckon he has any idea what he is babbling about?



Judge your own knowledge and not other people who
seem to have made it their life work.

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Question on Bans
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:11pm:
So, is he a messenger, or does he actually know what he is talking about, Bobby?

What qualifications does he have in climate science, Bobby?  The answer is zero.  Why do you reckon he has any idea what he is babbling about?



Judge your own knowledge and not other people who
seem to have made it their life work.

forgiven

namaste


Can't answer the questions, Bobby, yet when I question DeByne at your place, you delete them.



Title: Re: Question on Bans
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:25pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
Is this going off topic?



We are talking about trolling.
Abusing people.


I'm talking about DeByne.

Title: Re: Question on Bans
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:26pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:11pm:
So, is he a messenger, or does he actually know what he is talking about, Bobby?

What qualifications does he have in climate science, Bobby?  The answer is zero.  Why do you reckon he has any idea what he is babbling about?



Judge your own knowledge and not other people who
seem to have made it their life work.

forgiven

namaste


Can't answer the questions, Bobby, yet when I question DeByne at your place, you delete them.




Aussie,
You're being disingenuous in that you're
trying to pretend that you don't understand my reasoning.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 8:12pm
The last 9 Posts were moved here from Relationships by Setanta.

Let me know If I missed something.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 8:35pm
I reckon the gist is there.  That'll do.

What is the way to do it? 

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 9:16pm
Leave the thread window open so you can follow the posts, open another tab in split(middle click the split button or right click open in a new tab), look in the thread window for the post numbers you want to move, ctrl-click the post in the split window. I find you need to ctrl-click-click to stop the split window scrolling.

If it's not clear enough I'll try and be more clear.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 9:20pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 9:16pm:
Leave the thread window open so you can follow the posts, open another tab in split(middle click the split button or right click open in a new tab), look in the thread window for the post numbers you want to move, ctrl-click the post in the split window. I find you need to ctrl-click-click to stop the split window scrolling.

If it's not clear enough I'll try and be more clear.


I'll try tomorrow on some old thread.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 9:28pm
Where are you Bobby????

Bobby??

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:11pm
I think it's very rude to talk about someone who can't defend himself on this forum.


Bad taste.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
I think it's very rude to talk about someone who can't defend himself on this forum.


Bad taste.


Rubbish.  You can defend him (after all..you are flogging the snake oil salesman and his crap  here...you know, the bloke with zero relevant qualifications in climate science. 

Or better still, he can front up himself (you did boast that he reads your promotion of his garbage) and defend himself.



Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:41pm
Bobby....where are you Bobby?  Don't 'wunaway' as FD says.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:48pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
I think it's very rude to talk about someone who can't defend himself on this forum.


Bad taste.


Rubbish.  You can defend him (after all..you are flogging the snake oil salesman and his crap  here...you know, the bloke with zero relevant qualifications in climate science. 

Or better still, he can front up himself (you did boast that he reads your promotion of his garbage) and defend himself.



Aussie,
I have defended him.
He is a messenger who finds cold weather news about global cooling &
science graphs etc & posts them.
He gives plenty of links to his sources.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that unless
you want to prevent free speech?

He did say once that he tried to join Ozpolitic but he wasn't accepted.
I doubt he would waste his time arguing with you.

Basically it's:
here's the news,
here's the sources,
go and do your own research.

You are carrying on in contravention of your own rules -
bagging someone & for what purpose?
It's just to annoy me and get a response - admit it.
This thread is really about me.

Setanta,
please delete this thread.
Aussie is only trying to start a sub forum moderator war
in contravention of what you told him not to do.



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Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:02pm
Ah!  Yes.


Quote:
He is a messenger who finds cold weather news about global cooling &
science graphs etc & posts them.


Cold weather news and graphs and cooling....especially in Winter when it is cold and cooling and he bever refers to the graphs which show warming.

Bobnby, he is a nobody other than a dick who can produce a You Tube video.  He is recognised by nobody of any scientific relevance.

That wanker could do exactly the same with 'moon landing denial' Videos. 

It is snake oil slick garbage, and that he anointed you as an expert and Australian source ought have been a light bulb moment for you.  It sure was for me!  You have zero qualifications in climate science, nothing.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Agnes on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:06pm
What climate change expertise and or credentials do you and Monk have Aussie- Ill tell you what - NONE NONE NONE ONE- both frauds and snake oil sales men the both of you ! I want to see your university degrees and Tafe course certificate  in keeping it real- a screen shot will be acceptable - even a horticulture badge will do




Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:07pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:02pm:
Ah!  Yes.


Quote:
He is a messenger who finds cold weather news about global cooling &
science graphs etc & posts them.


Cold weather news and graphs and cooling....especially in Winter when it is cold and cooling and he bever refers to the graphs which show warming.

Bobnby, he is a nobody other than a dick who can produce a You Tube video.  He is recognised by nobody of any scientific relevance.

That wanker could do exactly the same with 'moon landing denial' Videos. 

It is snake oil slick garbage, and that he anointed you as an expert and Australian source ought have been a light bulb moment for you.  It sure was for me!  You have zero qualifications in climate science, nothing.



and you ignored:

Basically it's:
here's the news,
here's the sources,
go and do your own research.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
I think it's very rude to talk about someone who can't defend himself on this forum.


Bad taste.


Like the politicians we pay out on? The royal family? Dubyne is a wanker, he is not a member here and get's nothing more than any other non-member.

He is quite free to join and be a member but he will have to defend his ideas so I'd say the chances of that are slim. We might even post the results to youtube. Egads!

He's a youtube knob and a nobody Bobby, he get's no protection here.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:11pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
I think it's very rude to talk about someone who can't defend himself on this forum.


Bad taste.


Like the politicians we pay out on? The royal family? Dubyne is a wanker, he is not a member here and get's nothing more than any other non-member.

He is quite free to join and be a member but he will have to defend his ideas so I'd say the chances of that are slim. We might even post the results to youtube. Egads!

He's a youtube knob and a nobody Bobby, he get's no protection here.




And you completely ignored my above argument for reason.

Do you want the cold weather news censored?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
I think it's very rude to talk about someone who can't defend himself on this forum.


Bad taste.


Like the politicians we pay out on? The royal family? Dubyne is a wanker, he is not a member here and get's nothing more than any other non-member.

He is quite free to join and be a member but he will have to defend his ideas so I'd say the chances of that are slim. We might even post the results to youtube. Egads!

He's a youtube knob and a nobody Bobby, he get's no protection here.




And you completely ignored my above argument for reason.

Do you want the cold weather news censored?


Terribly cold here, I feel an ice age coming on. :-/

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:14pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
I think it's very rude to talk about someone who can't defend himself on this forum.


Bad taste.


Like the politicians we pay out on? The royal family? Dubyne is a wanker, he is not a member here and get's nothing more than any other non-member.

He is quite free to join and be a member but he will have to defend his ideas so I'd say the chances of that are slim. We might even post the results to youtube. Egads!

He's a youtube knob and a nobody Bobby, he get's no protection here.




And you completely ignored my above argument for reason.

Do you want the cold weather news censored?


Terribly cold here, I feel an ice age coming on. :-/




Record cold temperatures all around the world
and hardly a mention in the news.
Proof and links to back it up.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Agnes on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:16pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfK-WX2pa8c

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know



Even a global moderator has called David DuByne a knob & a wanker
with no logical argument to back up the abuse.
Is this what Ozpolitic has become?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
I think it's very rude to talk about someone who can't defend himself on this forum.


Bad taste.


Like the politicians we pay out on? The royal family? Dubyne is a wanker, he is not a member here and get's nothing more than any other non-member.

He is quite free to join and be a member but he will have to defend his ideas so I'd say the chances of that are slim. We might even post the results to youtube. Egads!

He's a youtube knob and a nobody Bobby, he get's no protection here.




And you completely ignored my above argument for reason.

Do you want the cold weather news censored?


Since when is cold weather 'news.'  Here's a tip, Bobby.  It will get cold down there in Melbourne soon.  Winter is coming......oh no!!  It might even snow in close proximity to Melbourne as it has done in the past.

How about you stop posting the snake oil salesman's crap here, and then watch 'Environment' wane.  That's all it is Bobby...you posting his crap.

Are you on his payroll, Bobby?  Is that why you persist with the garbage?



Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:14pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
I think it's very rude to talk about someone who can't defend himself on this forum.


Bad taste.


Like the politicians we pay out on? The royal family? Dubyne is a wanker, he is not a member here and get's nothing more than any other non-member.

He is quite free to join and be a member but he will have to defend his ideas so I'd say the chances of that are slim. We might even post the results to youtube. Egads!

He's a youtube knob and a nobody Bobby, he get's no protection here.




And you completely ignored my above argument for reason.

Do you want the cold weather news censored?


Terribly cold here, I feel an ice age coming on. :-/




Record cold temperatures all around the world
and hardly a mention in the news.
Proof and links to back it up.


Bobby...

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know



Even a global moderator has called David DuByne a knob & a wanker
with no logical argument to back up the abuse.
Is this what Ozpolitic has become?


I could say more if you like. How about you ask him to join the forum and explain himself and let others question him and his evidence?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know


He almost said the same, Agnes.  His words were:

'Maybe I am and I don't know it.'

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:21pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know



Even a global moderator has called David DuByne a knob & a wanker
with no logical argument to back up the abuse.
Is this what Ozpolitic has become?


I could say more if you like. How about you ask him to join the forum and explain himself and let others question him and his evidence?


Yes!  Use your influence Bobby!  Do it.  I'll even open a Thread here so he and Monk can go at it.  I know who will win that clash.

I bet he does not have the balls to turn up.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:23pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:21pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know



Even a global moderator has called David DuByne a knob & a wanker
with no logical argument to back up the abuse.
Is this what Ozpolitic has become?


I could say more if you like. How about you ask him to join the forum and explain himself and let others question him and his evidence?


Yes!  Use your influence Bobby!  Do it.  I'll even open a Thread here so he and Monk can go at it.  I know who will win that clash.

I bet he does not have the balls to turn up.


Even Lee who doe not agree with Monk on the causes of the warming would tear him a new one.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:23pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know



Even a global moderator has called David DuByne a knob & a wanker
with no logical argument to back up the abuse.
Is this what Ozpolitic has become?


I could say more if you like. How about you ask him to join the forum and explain himself and let others question him and his evidence?



I don't think he'd want to part of a forum where even a global moderator
thinks it's OK to use ad hominem abuse.

Go to one of his videos - find something that is wrong.
Say where it is - example 4:23
4 minutes 23 seconds.
David said this
QUOTE ...........
and it's wrong because this actually happened.
His link is wrong because that's not what the link says.
Do a bit of homework -

any fool can call someone else a knob or a wanker but
it takes a special kind of person to put forth a cogent argument.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Agnes on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:24pm
Monk and Aussie have no climate change science behind them- what is this beat up against Bobby- and why is it a crime that someone thinks he might have some credibility on climate change sound so bitter to me - sour grapes -


Bobby just ignore and get off Aussies stomping ground he is just  jealous- there can be no other explanation -

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:23pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know



Even a global moderator has called David DuByne a knob & a wanker
with no logical argument to back up the abuse.
Is this what Ozpolitic has become?


I could say more if you like. How about you ask him to join the forum and explain himself and let others question him and his evidence?



I don't think he'd want to part of a forum where even a global moderator
thinks it's OK to use ad hominem abuse.

Go to one of his videos - find something that is wrong.
Say where it is - example 4:23
4 minutes 23 seconds.
David said this
QUOTE ...........
and it's wrong because this actually happened.
His link is wrong because that's not what the link says.
Do a bit of homework -

any fool can call someone else a knob or a wanker but
it takes a special kind of person to put forth a cogent argument.


I can assure you, if he was a member, my language would be toned down and he would get the same consideration as any other member. As he is not a member, he is fair game. Does he have a pair?

Don't turn into a master light where you just post more links.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Agnes on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:27pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know


He almost said the same, Agnes.  His words were:

'Maybe I am and I don't know it.'



You are still smarting because he got Enviro mod- grow up- just leave them too it Bobs-

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:30pm
I did watch a couple of his videos Bobby, one was about a creek/stream freezing, I googled it, it freezes every year.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:34pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:25pm:
I can assure you, if he was a member, my language would be toned down and he would get the same consideration as any other member. As he is not a member, he is fair game. Does he have a pair?

Don't turn into a master light where you just post more links.



Setanta,
I'll tell you what - I'll ask him to join again.
The fact is that it takes days of work to produce one video
so I doubt he has the time to post here.
He's made over 550 videos -
he works very hard to produce them.
He's interviewed top climate scientists such as John Casey
& produced long videos of the conversations.

I know you haven't bothered watching them so you're not really
interested are you?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:35pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:30pm:
I did watch a couple of his videos Bobby, one was about a creek/stream freezing, I googled it, it freezes every year.


Well you should have put in a reply at the time.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:34pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:25pm:
I can assure you, if he was a member, my language would be toned down and he would get the same consideration as any other member. As he is not a member, he is fair game. Does he have a pair?

Don't turn into a master light where you just post more links.



Setanta,
I'll tell you what - I'll ask him to join again.
The fact is that it takes days of work to produce one video
so I doubt he has the time to post here.
He's made over 550 videos -
he works very hard to produce them.
He's interviewed top climate scientists such as John Casey
& produced long videos of the conversations.

I know you haven't bothered watching them so you're not really
interested are you?


It takes only a brain and fingers to type.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:36pm

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know


He almost said the same, Agnes.  His words were:

'Maybe I am and I don't know it.'



You are still smarting because he got Enviro mod- grow up- just leave them too it Bobs-



Yes - now I've got a tag - team Aussie & Set up against me.
Talk about shooting the messenger.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:30pm:
I did watch a couple of his videos Bobby, one was about a creek/stream freezing, I googled it, it freezes every year.


Well you should have put in a reply at the time.


I told you when you posted the video, I'm sure.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:41pm
OK - the invite is made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS5CW8Jwlg0

Quote:
Bobby
1 second ago
Hi David,
another good video.
Now you have a tag team of people who can't be bothered watching your videos inviting
you to Ozpolitic to defend them - already 4 pages long:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1520750638/45#49

Talk about shooting the messenger.
One of them is a global moderator called Setanta & the other a sub forum moderator called Aussie.
they are both bagging you & I'm defending you.
Anyway - please join up if you can spare the time?
cheers
Bobby

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:41pm:
OK - the invite is made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS5CW8Jwlg0

Quote:
Bobby
1 second ago
Hi David,
another good video.
Now you have a tag team of people who can't be bothered watching your videos inviting
you to Ozpolitic to defend them - already 4 pages long:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1520750638/45#49

Talk about shooting the messenger.
One of them is a global moderator called Setanta & the other a sub forum moderator called Aussie.
they are both bagging you & I'm defending you.
Anyway - please join up if you can spare the time?
cheers
Bobby


I see no invite, just another video.

Edit: Watching that video, floods are an sign of the ice age... Really? Floods are a sign that more water is taken into the atmosphere and dropped again. Hot oceans and air let water more easily be taken up.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:50pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:41pm:
OK - the invite is made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS5CW8Jwlg0

Quote:
Bobby
1 second ago
Hi David,
another good video.
Now you have a tag team of people who can't be bothered watching your videos inviting
you to Ozpolitic to defend them - already 4 pages long:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1520750638/45#49

Talk about shooting the messenger.
One of them is a global moderator called Setanta & the other a sub forum moderator called Aussie.
they are both bagging you & I'm defending you.
Anyway - please join up if you can spare the time?
cheers
Bobby


I see no invite, just another video.



click sort by newest first.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Agnes on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:51pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:21pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know



Even a global moderator has called David DuByne a knob & a wanker
with no logical argument to back up the abuse.
Is this what Ozpolitic has become?


I could say more if you like. How about you ask him to join the forum and explain himself and let others question him and his evidence?


Yes!  Use your influence Bobby!  Do it.  I'll even open a Thread here so he and Monk can go at it.  I know who will win that clash.

I bet he does not have the balls to turn up.

  Monk would have to show his credentials and university qualifications BEFORE he would even be allowed to participate in any debate- it works both ways- Monk is not expert and certainly neither bloody Aussie- that is why they weren't voted in as Enviro Mods- BOOOO HOOOO- Monk wont win- he is an idiot and a BLOW HARD!!!!!!! nothing more-
   Jealous assholes
jealous stupid wankers

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:55pm

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:21pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know



Even a global moderator has called David DuByne a knob & a wanker
with no logical argument to back up the abuse.
Is this what Ozpolitic has become?


I could say more if you like. How about you ask him to join the forum and explain himself and let others question him and his evidence?


Yes!  Use your influence Bobby!  Do it.  I'll even open a Thread here so he and Monk can go at it.  I know who will win that clash.

I bet he does not have the balls to turn up.

  Monk would have to show his credentials and university qualifications BEFORE he would even be allowed to participate in any debate- it works both ways- Monk is not expert and certainly neither bloody Aussie- that is why they weren't voted in as Enviro Mods- BOOOO HOOOO- Monk wont win- he is an idiot and a BLOW HARD!!!!!!! nothing more-
   Jealous assholes
jealous stupid wankers


So would DuByne if that was the case. I wonder if he will.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:41pm:
OK - the invite is made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS5CW8Jwlg0

Quote:
Bobby
1 second ago
Hi David,
another good video.
Now you have a tag team of people who can't be bothered watching your videos inviting
you to Ozpolitic to defend them - already 4 pages long:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1520750638/45#49

Talk about shooting the messenger.
One of them is a global moderator called Setanta & the other a sub forum moderator called Aussie.
they are both bagging you & I'm defending you.
Anyway - please join up if you can spare the time?
cheers
Bobby


I see no invite, just another video.



click sort by newest first.


You don't have a direct line?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:59pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:41pm:
OK - the invite is made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS5CW8Jwlg0

Quote:
Bobby
1 second ago
Hi David,
another good video.
Now you have a tag team of people who can't be bothered watching your videos inviting
you to Ozpolitic to defend them - already 4 pages long:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1520750638/45#49

Talk about shooting the messenger.
One of them is a global moderator called Setanta & the other a sub forum moderator called Aussie.
they are both bagging you & I'm defending you.
Anyway - please join up if you can spare the time?
cheers
Bobby


I see no invite, just another video.



click sort by newest first.


You don't have a direct line?



No - only commenting on Youtube.
He usually replies.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 12th, 2018 at 12:00am

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:21pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:17pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Why did he tell the World (well....his audience) that YOU are an expert Bobby.  He said 'expert,' not...'messenger.'

Have you corrected that with him?  Has he publicly retracted it?

   I think you are jealous that someone thinks Bobby is an expert sorry- and he may well be for all you know



Even a global moderator has called David DuByne a knob & a wanker
with no logical argument to back up the abuse.
Is this what Ozpolitic has become?


I could say more if you like. How about you ask him to join the forum and explain himself and let others question him and his evidence?


Yes!  Use your influence Bobby!  Do it.  I'll even open a Thread here so he and Monk can go at it.  I know who will win that clash.

I bet he does not have the balls to turn up.

  Monk would have to show his credentials and university qualifications BEFORE he would even be allowed to participate in any debate- it works both ways- Monk is not expert and certainly neither bloody Aussie- that is why they weren't voted in as Enviro Mods- BOOOO HOOOO- Monk wont win- he is an idiot and a BLOW HARD!!!!!!! nothing more-
   Jealous assholes
jealous stupid wankers


I'd be quite happy to see Lee and Monk jump like monkeys on his back. It'd be good to see them agree on something.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 12th, 2018 at 12:03am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:59pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:41pm:
OK - the invite is made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS5CW8Jwlg0

Quote:
Bobby
1 second ago
Hi David,
another good video.
Now you have a tag team of people who can't be bothered watching your videos inviting
you to Ozpolitic to defend them - already 4 pages long:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1520750638/45#49

Talk about shooting the messenger.
One of them is a global moderator called Setanta & the other a sub forum moderator called Aussie.
they are both bagging you & I'm defending you.
Anyway - please join up if you can spare the time?
cheers
Bobby


I see no invite, just another video.



click sort by newest first.


You don't have a direct line?



No - only commenting on Youtube.
He usually replies.


So he just uses you for his own benefit?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 12th, 2018 at 12:08am
Pastor DuByne? Bobby?


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:59am

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:51pm:
  Monk would have to show his credentials and university qualifications BEFORE he would even be allowed to participate in any debate- it works both ways- Monk is not expert and certainly neither bloody Aussie- that is why they weren't voted in as Enviro Mods- BOOOO HOOOO- Monk wont win- he is an idiot and a BLOW HARD!!!!!!! nothing more-
   Jealous assholes
jealous stupid wankers




Aussie knows absolutely nothing about the climate.
Why he's so interested now is an enigma.
He didn't start this nonsense until I became the moderator.
Maybe he wanted his boozy mate Monk to get the job
and this thread is Aussie's revenge?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Agnes on Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:28am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:59am:

Agnes wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:51pm:
  Monk would have to show his credentials and university qualifications BEFORE he would even be allowed to participate in any debate- it works both ways- Monk is not expert and certainly neither bloody Aussie- that is why they weren't voted in as Enviro Mods- BOOOO HOOOO- Monk wont win- he is an idiot and a BLOW HARD!!!!!!! nothing more-
   Jealous assholes
jealous stupid wankers




Aussie knows absolutely nothing about the climate.
Why he's so interested now is an enigma.
He didn't start this nonsense until I became the moderator.
Maybe he wanted his boozy mate Monk to get the job
and this thread is Aussie's revenge?

Who cares Bobby anyone who aligns themselves with or helps aussie in any way  is an idiot- I just see this pathetic thread as an exercise in frozen sour grapes- he is also obviously hounding this particular mod with pms again- and its the reason this mod left last time- the maniac is trying to control him via pm-"90% of his pms here ( at Ozpol )come from Aussie"- its already been stated not 2 weeks ago that that is the case again right now-Set wrote it I read that- is he yet again Aussies shill? going by this thread it certainly looks that way

As you said Dubyne would be most likely too busy to prove debate a point on a petty  forum and we may never see him- but this bunch of wankers are a joke and its embarrassing to see the jealousy and "knowledge" displayed so and proudly at that  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  they are not worth even replying too-

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:46am
thanks Agnes,

once again I say to those who want to attack David -


Go to one of his videos - find something that is wrong.
Say where it is - example 4:23
4 minutes 23 seconds.

David said this

QUOTE ...........

and it's wrong because this actually happened.
His link is wrong because that's not what the link says.
Do a bit of homework.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:33am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:46am:
thanks Agnes,

once again I say to those who want to attack David -


Go to one of his videos - find something that is wrong.
Say where it is - example 4:23
4 minutes 23 seconds.

David said this

QUOTE ...........

and it's wrong because this actually happened.
His link is wrong because that's not what the link says.
Do a bit of homework.


Was that his response to your invitation?  It looks like a smart part of something someone said.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Agnes on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:41am

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:46am:
thanks Agnes,

once again I say to those who want to attack David -


Go to one of his videos - find something that is wrong.
Say where it is - example 4:23
4 minutes 23 seconds.

David said this

QUOTE ...........

and it's wrong because this actually happened.
His link is wrong because that's not what the link says.
Do a bit of homework.


Was that his response to your invitation?  It looks like a smart part of something someone said.

  the part where it says " QUOTE " in caps- might be a give away brain- DDUURRR  :-X

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:50am

Agnes wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:41am:

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:46am:
thanks Agnes,

once again I say to those who want to attack David -


Go to one of his videos - find something that is wrong.
Say where it is - example 4:23
4 minutes 23 seconds.

David said this

QUOTE ...........

and it's wrong because this actually happened.
His link is wrong because that's not what the link says.
Do a bit of homework.


Was that his response to your invitation?  It looks like a smart part of something someone said.

  the part where it says " QUOTE " in caps- might be a give away brain- DDUURRR  :-X


Yeas, it is something he said, but Bobby has not revealed the context.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Agnes on Mar 12th, 2018 at 11:03am

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:50am:

Agnes wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:41am:

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 10:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:46am:
thanks Agnes,

once again I say to those who want to attack David -


Go to one of his videos - find something that is wrong.
Say where it is - example 4:23
4 minutes 23 seconds.

David said this

QUOTE ...........

and it's wrong because this actually happened.
His link is wrong because that's not what the link says.
Do a bit of homework.


Was that his response to your invitation?  It looks like a smart part of something someone said.

  the part where it says " QUOTE " in caps- might be a give away brain- DDUURRR  :-X


Yeas, it is something he said, but Bobby has not revealed the context.

That you thought Bobby stole a "smart part of something someone said " would imply that is habit you have  ( fox smells his own hole after all) a big give away there brain- ;D

So now you pop in with "context" as if it would make an once of difference to your understanding dear LOL




Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:47pm
Where are you Bobby?  You still have not told us whether you and Debyne have corrected the bullshit claim he made (to the 'World') on one of his YouTube videos that you are an expert and Australian source

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Agnes on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:05pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
Where are you Bobby?  You still have not told us whether you and Debyne have corrected the bullshit claim he made (to the 'World') on one of his YouTube videos that you are an expert and Australian source

and it's on again- no doubt aided and abetted by your fave mod- the same as last night?
?
We don't want to confuse you guys again with a part of  "someones smart quote" now do we dim witty - now that we are having board elections maybe we should extend the practice to include selecting our own mods-

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:21pm
'We?'

All these 'we' mobs you reckon you are part of.  Did they boot you out of the sewage works as you requested, Agnes?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:41pm

Agnes wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
Where are you Bobby?  You still have not told us whether you and Debyne have corrected the bullshit claim he made (to the 'World') on one of his YouTube videos that you are an expert and Australian source

and it's on again- no doubt aided and abetted by your fave mod- the same as last night?
?
We don't want to confuse you guys again with a part of  "someones smart quote" now do we dim witty - now that we are having board elections maybe we should extend the practice to include selecting our own mods-


Aren't you happy with Vic and Setanta?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Agnes on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:52pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
Where are you Bobby?  You still have not told us whether you and Debyne have corrected the bullshit claim he made (to the 'World') on one of his YouTube videos that you are an expert and Australian source

and it's on again- no doubt aided and abetted by your fave mod- the same as last night?
?
We don't want to confuse you guys again with a part of  "someones smart quote" now do we dim witty - now that we are having board elections maybe we should extend the practice to include selecting our own mods-


Aren't you happy with Vic and Setanta?

there are other mods- but as Set receives 90% of his pms from you i would say you are  8-) veeeery happy with him-

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:57pm

Agnes wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 3:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
Where are you Bobby?  You still have not told us whether you and Debyne have corrected the bullshit claim he made (to the 'World') on one of his YouTube videos that you are an expert and Australian source

and it's on again- no doubt aided and abetted by your fave mod- the same as last night?
?
We don't want to confuse you guys again with a part of  "someones smart quote" now do we dim witty - now that we are having board elections maybe we should extend the practice to include selecting our own mods-


Aren't you happy with Vic and Setanta?

there are other mods- but as Set receives 90% of his pms from you i would say you are  8-) veeeery happy with him-


Yes there are.  Are you unhappy with them?  If so, explain why they ought be replaced.

And Setanta did not say got 90% of his PMs from me (not that I saw.)  If you insist he did, post the link.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 5:40pm
Here's another piece of DeByne bullshit:

Link.


Quote:
And guess where that will lead us? Dubyne says, “I’m sorry to say, there’s not going to be 8 billion people on the planet by 2024.”


Link.


Quote:
Between 2006 and 2016 Melbourne has added close to 1 million people. Sydney was not far behind adding 800,000.

In the same period, Brisbane and Perth grew by almost half a million.

The pressure points are plain to see — from congestion on the roads and rail networks, to the struggle to keep up with demand for schools and hospitals.

Back in 1997 it was estimated we would take until the middle of this century to reach a population of 25 million.

Australia's population is there already.

Four Corners has investigated how this population growth has occurred and why it is taking government by surprise.

Australia has a steady birth rate and we're also living longer.

But the main driver of our population growth is immigration.

On our current rate of growth, Melbourne and Sydney will nudge 8 million in the middle of this century. But they are already groaning under the strain.


The bloke is a FOS wanker.

Where are you, Bobby?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:25pm
That's an opinion - so what?
You seem to have plenty of opinions -
it's not illegal.


The full context:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v90Z54Sg8Gg


Researcher David Dubyne from the Adapt 2030 You Tube channel joins me to discuss what's really driving the coming collapse. it's the secret government's don't want to tell their citizens about because nothing can be done to prevent it. It's the grand solar minimum, and the Chinese know it will devastate crops and food production globally which, according to Dubyne, will cause economies around the world to "evaporate due to never ending, escalating food prices and global food shortages." And guess where that will lead us? Dubyne says, "I'm sorry to say, there's not going to be 8 billion people on the planet by 2024."

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:28pm
There you are!!  I thought you'd 'wunaway.'  So:

1. Did you get a reply to your invitation?

2.  Have you and he corrected the bullshit he put on that YouTube about you being an 'expert' etc?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:34pm

That's an opinion - so what?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
That's an opinion - so what?


Which one is the opinion?

And:

1. Did you get a reply to your invitation?

2.  Have you and he corrected the bullshit he put on that YouTube about you being an 'expert' etc?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:39pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
That's an opinion - so what?


Which one is the opinion?

And:

1. Did you get a reply to your invitation?

2.  Have you and he corrected the bullshit he put on that YouTube about you being an 'expert' etc?



The opinion is what you quoted
"I'm sorry to say, there's not going to be 8 billion people on the planet by 2024."

answer my question first.

QUESTION.
That's an opinion - so what?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:39pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
That's an opinion - so what?



Which one is the opinion?

And:

1. Did you get a reply to your invitation?

2.  Have you and he corrected the bullshit he put on that YouTube about you being an 'expert' etc?



The opinion is what you quoted
"I'm sorry to say, there's not going to be 8 billion people on the planet by 2024."

answer my question first.

QUESTION.
That's an opinion - so what?


Sure...unlike his YouTube videos which are just a collection of anecdotes which he puts together to support the theme....Ice Age Coming.  It's like a kid's diary yet titled Ice Age Coming and each entry is something like...."it was cold, really cold today at the South Pole."

So:

1. Did you get a reply to your invitation?

2.  Have you and he corrected the bullshit he put on that YouTube about you being an 'expert' etc?


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:05pm
You haven't answered my question.

You started it as though it was very important -
now you're running away.

Sorry Aussie -
you had enough chances to answer.
I'm not playing your silly games anymore.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:05pm:
You haven't answered my question.

You started it as though it was very important -
now you're running away.

Sorry Aussie -
you had enough chances to answer.
I'm not playing your silly games anymore.


It is important and very relevant.  DeByne says we will never reach B8 world wide, yet Australia's population will boom in the same period. 

So....it seems DeByne is wrong when he says categorically, without any reservation..."there's not going to be 8 billion people on the planet by 2024."

I answered your question as you asked me to.  What else do you what Bobby?

Are you 'wunning away?'

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 13th, 2018 at 4:10pm
The snake oil salesman says with great and sinister/sombre overtones laced with foreboding dread that the Sun is heading  into a grand solar minimum.  He says that as though it has never happened before and that it is further proof that there is an ice age coming.  He is just full of schit, and is deliberately misleading people...like Bobby.

The Sun goes into grand solar minimums on a regular cyclical basis.  Nothing new or dramatic about it.

Link.


Quote:
Solar minimum is the period of least solar activity in the 11 year solar cycle of the sun. During this time, sunspot and solar flare activity diminishes, and often does not occur for days at a time. The date of the minimum is described by a smoothed average over 12 months of sunspot activity, so identifying the date of the solar minimum usually can only happen 6 months after the minimum takes place. Solar minima are not generally correlated with changes in climate but recent studies have shown a correlation with regional weather patterns.

Solar minimum is contrasted with the solar maximum, where there may be hundreds of sunspots.



Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Unforgiven on Mar 13th, 2018 at 4:14pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:43pm:
Bobby is a devotee, and Dubyne reckons Bobby is an Australian expert and resource on some looming ice age.

In a other Thread (and I tried to move the Off Topic posts from there to here....and failed) this issue came up.

So...we'll continure it here.

Bobby, you keep deleting my posts at your place which are critical of DeByne.  You reckon that's okay.

I don't.  He is open game, given you are saying he is not a messenger but rather someone who actually knows what he is talking about.

I am asking you what qualifications he has in climate science, and why you regard him as something more that a messenger?

This same bloke also says we will all be starving within a few years.  He also reckons the World's population will never reach 8 billion.  He is full of bullshit.


Bobby professses expertise on numerous subjects.

Bobby and DuByne are each other's mentors in a love triangle missing a leg.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 13th, 2018 at 7:18pm
This is the snake oil man's response to Bobby invite:


Quote:
Adapt 2030
Highlighted reply
Adapt 2030
14 hours ago
I've noticed a huge amount of coordinated same scenario on comment boards social media all at once. They are attempting to have me try to answer everyone so I stay distracted and lose focus. I just put out my new video and that is the answer to the naysayers. They are paid now many of them to post. Use your energy to prepare. Survival of the fittest minds Bobby. Dont let them distract you from your outcome.


What a piece of crap.  Get your shabby arse here DeByne, and face some people who are not gullible fools.

FMD....


Quote:
They are paid now many of them to post.


Not me deepschit!


Quote:
Use your energy to prepare.


Prepare for what Bobby?  Have you built your nuke safe bunker......growing your own food........stocked up on coal and wood to keep you warm in the coming ice age.

Fairdinkum.  Unbelievable.

Come on David, I can assure you...we DO bite! 

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 13th, 2018 at 7:34pm
Yes Aussie,
David replied.

David replied on the video at Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS5CW8Jwlg0


Quote:
Adapt 2030
Highlighted reply
Adapt 2030
14 hours ago
I've noticed a huge amount of coordinated same scenario on comment boards social media all at once. They are attempting to have me try to answer everyone so I stay distracted and lose focus. I just put out my new video and that is the answer to the naysayers. They are paid now many of them to post. Use your energy to prepare. Survival of the fittest minds Bobby. Dont let them distract you from your outcome.


He even made a whole video for the Ad Hominem attacks made on him:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULDSjmAfYU0


Climate Cools Across the Planet with Crop Losses; Ad Hominem Attacks Ensue (549)


Adapt 2030
Published on Mar 12, 2018
Ad Homenim Attacks ensued as I pointed out irregularities of the supposed Arctic Heatwave. I make a 1C error and the house of cards falls when the AGW narrative grip is lost. The real reasons for Arctic heating are repeating cycles of 1930's Atlantic Air Intrusion, this is not new, it's a cycle. The media's careful word crafting I also pointed out, with one point in the Arctic warm does not mean the entire Arctic is warm. Forgot about the record cold super freeze in Europe? Plus a detailed forecast of the climate moving forward and how the illusion of AGW has been sold to you the public. This is the shroud being lifted and my BEST VIDEO to date.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 13th, 2018 at 7:51pm
What a wanker.  He will never turn up at a place like this. 

He wants sole occupancy of the stage where he gets to babble crap.  On one hand he talks about a few degrees of warming and then in the next breath, we have a 'super freeze,' backed up by SFA!  Does he even  know there are two hemispheres, and in one there is record warming?

And I gave up when  he again mentioned the 'grand solar minimum' as though it is something new.

See my comment up there ^^^.

You are FOS, David.  Come on, I know SFA about this matter but I do know how to check stuff.  Others here know lots on the stuff, and also how to check.

Grow some balls David.  See you here soon, I hope...here where you cant just babble on with anecdotes and in a kid's diary titled....'Ice Age'.....and make daily entries of...'It was cold in Ireland today.'

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Mistress Nicole on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:04pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
What a wanker.  He will never turn up at a place like this. 

He wants sole occupancy of the stage where he gets to babble crap.  On one hand he talks about a few degrees of warming and then in the next breath, we have a 'super freeze,' backed up by SFA!  Does he even  know there are two hemispheres, and in one there is record warming?

And I gave up when  he again mentioned the 'grand solar minimum' as though it is something new.

See my comment up there ^^^.

You are FOS, David.  Come on, I know SFA about this matter but I do know how to check stuff.  Others here know lots on the stuff, and also how to check.

Grow some balls David.  See you here soon, I hope...here where you cant just babble on with anecdotes and in a kid's diary titled....'Ice Age'.....and make daily entries of...'It was cold in Ireland today.'


If he did come here, any healthy debate would be lost in your rush to label him a sock.

Stay away, Dave. Stay away.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:07pm

Is Booby this DuByne character?


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:08pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
What a wanker.  He will never turn up at a place like this. 

He wants sole occupancy of the stage where he gets to babble crap.  On one hand he talks about a few degrees of warming and then in the next breath, we have a 'super freeze,' backed up by SFA!  Does he even  know there are two hemispheres, and in one there is record warming?

And I gave up when  he again mentioned the 'grand solar minimum' as though it is something new.

See my comment up there ^^^.

You are FOS, David.  Come on, I know SFA about this matter but I do know how to check stuff.  Others here know lots on the stuff, and also how to check.

Grow some balls David.  See you here soon, I hope...here where you cant just babble on with anecdotes and in a kid's diary titled....'Ice Age'.....and make daily entries of...'It was cold in Ireland today.'


If he did come here, any healthy debate would be lost in your rush to label him a sock.

Stay away, Dave. Stay away.


It will be very easy to see if the real DeByne turns up.  But, as usual, you would not have a clue.

Best you start a Thread in Extremism about "Who shall I take to my boudoir?"  It's the obvious place for such a Thread.

Oh......wait.......you already have!

My bad.

;)

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Is Booby this DuByne character?


Not a hot coal's chance in an ice age!

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:11pm
I'm still watching David's latest video.

I'm waiting for Aussie's name to come up
but it hasn't yet.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
I'm still watching David's latest video.

I'm waiting for Aussie's name to come up
but it hasn't yet.



No direct mention of Aussie but it talked about another video
that was attacking David.
Still - David is entitled to his opinion.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:23pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
I'm still watching David's latest video.

I'm waiting for Aussie's name to come up
but it hasn't yet.


It won't.  You have not been watching carefully have you Bobby. He specifically said that he was not going  to give the likes of me (not his words) the time of day.  I am not worthy.  Bah.  He wants to bounce his 'facts' around, I can mix it with him by simply checking.  Others who know climate science will do far better than I can.

Still.....let's see if the bloke has gonads and can argue his point.....instead of being just another YouTube video producer....and they (the videos) are all the same....or haven't you noticed Bobby?  'Dear Ice Age Diary...today it was cold in Nebraska.  There is an Ice Age coming.'

Come on David.  Front up.  Monk and Lee will eat you alive.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:42pm
Sorry Bobby....forgot to ask, as I have asked before, but you did not reply.

You are not saying that Debyne is merely a messenger, are you?

That is....he never posts what he reckons are facts:

Like:


Quote:
The real reasons for Arctic heating are repeating cycles of 1930's Atlantic Air Intrusion, this is not new, it's a cycle. The media's careful word crafting I also pointed out, with one point in the Arctic warm does not mean the entire Arctic is warm. Forgot about the record cold super freeze in Europe? Plus a detailed forecast of the climate moving forward and how the illusion of AGW has been sold to you the public. This is the shroud being lifted and my BEST VIDEO to date.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:42pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
I'm still watching David's latest video.

I'm waiting for Aussie's name to come up
but it hasn't yet.


It won't.  You have not been watching carefully have you Bobby. He specifically said that he was not going  to give the likes of me (not his words) the time of day.  I am not worthy.  Bah.  He wants to bounce his 'facts' around, I can mix it with him by simply checking.  Others who know climate science will do far batter than I can.

Still.....let's see if the bloke has gonads and can argue his point.....instead of being just another YouTube video producer....and they (the videos) are all the same....or haven't you noticed Bobby?  'Dear Ice Age Diary...today it was cold in Nebraska.  There is an Ice Age coming.'

Come on David.  Front up.  Monk and Lee will eat you alive.



LOL - Lee agrees with David Dubyne and Monk is too scared to show his face here -
he just talks to himself on his own unread forum.  :)

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
I'm still watching David's latest video.

I'm waiting for Aussie's name to come up
but it hasn't yet.


It won't.  You have not been watching carefully have you Bobby. He specifically said that he was not going  to give the likes of me (not his words) the time of day.  I am not worthy.  Bah.  He wants to bounce his 'facts' around, I can mix it with him by simply checking.  Others who know climate science will do far batter than I can.

Still.....let's see if the bloke has gonads and can argue his point.....instead of being just another YouTube video producer....and they (the videos) are all the same....or haven't you noticed Bobby?  'Dear Ice Age Diary...today it was cold in Nebraska.  There is an Ice Age coming.'

Come on David.  Front up.  Monk and Lee will eat you alive.



LOL - Lee agrees with David Dubyne and Monk is too scared to show his face here -
he just talks to himself on his own unread forum.  :)


Who is too afraid?

Monk, you say?  Where is the snake oil salesman?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 14th, 2018 at 5:33am
Actually, I have been giving David heaps on Twitter. He is not keen to answer.

He does get “information” from denier sites like principia scientific. One came on Twitter and posted a paper saying there is no AGW, free gases cannot block heat and convection causes cooling. In 3 tweets I tore that paper apart using just high school science.

The Little Ice Age was only 0.5°C cooler than early 1900s temperatures.

IF a grand solar minimum happens there will be cooling of 0.3°C, no more. If we got both a GSM and a LIA (won’t get either but just for the sake of the argument) we would have cooling of 0.8°C. We have had warming of 1.2°C—and AGW will still be going winding back the bit of cooling.

Dubyne is not a researcher but a bullshit artist.

Booby and The Moronic are dupes.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 2:47pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 5:33am:
Actually, I have been giving David heaps on Twitter. He is not keen to answer.

He does get “information” from denier sites like principia scientific. One came on Twitter and posted a paper saying there is no AGW, free gases cannot block heat and convection causes cooling. In 3 tweets I tore that paper apart using just high school science.

The Little Ice Age was only 0.5°C cooler than early 1900s temperatures.

IF a grand solar minimum happens there will be cooling of 0.3°C, no more. If we got both a GSM and a LIA (won’t get either but just for the sake of the argument) we would have cooling of 0.8°C. We have had warming of 1.2°C—and AGW will still be going winding back the bit of cooling.

Dubyne is not a researcher but a bullshit artist.

Booby and The Moronic are dupes.


Ummm:


Quote:
Monk is too scared to show his face here...


You were saying Bobby?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 14th, 2018 at 4:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
I'm still watching David's latest video.

I'm waiting for Aussie's name to come up
but it hasn't yet.


It won't.  You have not been watching carefully have you Bobby. He specifically said that he was not going  to give the likes of me (not his words) the time of day.  I am not worthy.  Bah.  He wants to bounce his 'facts' around, I can mix it with him by simply checking.  Others who know climate science will do far batter than I can.

Still.....let's see if the bloke has gonads and can argue his point.....instead of being just another YouTube video producer....and they (the videos) are all the same....or haven't you noticed Bobby?  'Dear Ice Age Diary...today it was cold in Nebraska.  There is an Ice Age coming.'

Come on David.  Front up.  Monk and Lee will eat you alive.



LOL - Lee agrees with David Dubyne and Monk is too scared to show his face here -
he just talks to himself on his own unread forum.  :)


That's not what I get from Lee's posts. He just does not believe man is the cause of warming(AGW). I have never seen him saying we are heading for an ice age.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 14th, 2018 at 5:40pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 5:33am:
Actually, I have been giving David heaps on Twitter. He is not keen to answer.

He does get “information” from denier sites like principia scientific. One came on Twitter and posted a paper saying there is no AGW, free gases cannot block heat and convection causes cooling. In 3 tweets I tore that paper apart using just high school science.

The Little Ice Age was only 0.5°C cooler than early 1900s temperatures.

IF a grand solar minimum happens there will be cooling of 0.3°C, no more. If we got both a GSM and a LIA (won’t get either but just for the sake of the argument) we would have cooling of 0.8°C. We have had warming of 1.2°C—and AGW will still be going winding back the bit of cooling.

Dubyne is not a researcher but a bullshit artist.

Bobby and The Moronic are dupes.



Hi Monk,
you finally came out of your man cave.
I hope you watched David's rebuttal video?

here:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464603949/4718#4718

He really puts clowns like you down.  :)

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 6:29pm
The bloke who will not come out of his
'man cave' is Debyne.  Where is he Bobby?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 14th, 2018 at 6:49pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
The bloke who will not come out of his
'man cave' is DuByne.  Where is he Bobby?



He spoke:


Quote:
Adapt 2030
Highlighted reply
Adapt 2030
14 hours ago
I've noticed a huge amount of coordinated same scenario on comment boards social media all at once. They are attempting to have me try to answer everyone so I stay distracted and lose focus. I just put out my new video and that is the answer to the naysayers. They are paid now many of them to post. Use your energy to prepare. Survival of the fittest minds Bobby. Dont let them distract you from your outcome.



Aussie - you are trying to distract him from important work.
He made a long video to rebutt the claims.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 6:56pm
This garbage:


Quote:
They are paid now many of them to post.


....in itself ought be enough to tell you how silly he is.  That video rebutted nothing I have said.  All he did was lie about his detractors.......as above.

Come on David.....come here and face us.  Stop hiding from direct scrutiny like most snake oil dealers do.

You reckon you can mix it with Monk.  Here's the spot to do it.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 14th, 2018 at 7:49pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
This garbage:


Quote:
They are paid now many of them to post.


....in itself ought be enough to tell you how silly he is.  That video rebutted nothing I have said.  All he did was lie about his detractors.......as above.

Come on David.....come here and face us.  Stop hiding from direct scrutiny like most snake oil dealers do.

You reckon you can mix it with Monk.  Here's the spot to do it.



Aussie,
no one has lied.
People are either giving facts or opinions.
That people could be getting paid is an opinion.
It can't be proven.
Why can't Monk have an open mind?
Science is about accepting all possibilities
& considering the evidence for each.


I just posted  here how I have an open mind:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464603949/4722#4722

You and Monk should try it sometime.

BTW - were Monk's swear words acceptable on your sub forum?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 7:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 7:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
This garbage:


Quote:
They are paid now many of them to post.


....in itself ought be enough to tell you how silly he is.  That video rebutted nothing I have said.  All he did was lie about his detractors.......as above.

Come on David.....come here and face us.  Stop hiding from direct scrutiny like most snake oil dealers do.

You reckon you can mix it with Monk.  Here's the spot to do it.



Aussie,
no one has lied.
People are either giving facts or opinions.
That people could be getting paid is an opinion.
It can't be proven.
Why can't Monk have an open mind?
Science is about accepting all possibilities
& considering the evidence for each.


I just posted  here how I have an open mind:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464603949/4722#4722

You and Monk should try it sometime.

BTW - were Monk's swear words acceptable on your sub forum?


DeByne has lied.  I am not paid to post and neither is Monk as he alleged. 

Further...I assume this closed loop you refer to is the Earth's atmosphere.  Do our gases escape that closed loop.  I recall the drama over some car airconditioning gas which had to be banned because it was causing some sort of interference in the (closed) climate system.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 7:58pm

Quote:
were Monk's swear words acceptable on your sub forum?


Yes.  If they are good enough to pass FD's swear filter, I am not about to interfere unless it goes right over the top.

You are in no position to lecture anyone about swearing given the language you used at Monk's place.  If only more Members here saw that, they would better know who the real Bobby is.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 14th, 2018 at 7:58pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 7:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 7:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
This garbage:


Quote:
They are paid now many of them to post.


....in itself ought be enough to tell you how silly he is.  That video rebutted nothing I have said.  All he did was lie about his detractors.......as above.

Come on David.....come here and face us.  Stop hiding from direct scrutiny like most snake oil dealers do.

You reckon you can mix it with Monk.  Here's the spot to do it.



Aussie,
no one has lied.
People are either giving facts or opinions.
That people could be getting paid is an opinion.
It can't be proven.
Why can't Monk have an open mind?
Science is about accepting all possibilities
& considering the evidence for each.


I just posted  here how I have an open mind:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464603949/4722#4722

You and Monk should try it sometime.

BTW - were Monk's swear words acceptable on your sub forum?


DeByne has lied.  I am not paid to post and neither is Monk as he alleged. 

Further...I assume this closed loop you refer to is the Earth's atmosphere.  Do our gases escape that closed loop.  I recall the drama over some car airconditioning gas which had to be banned because it was causing some sort of interference in the (closed) climate system.



Look up the Gulf Stream or ask Monk.
It's water not atmosphere.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:04pm
No....even water is part of that closed system.  We drink recycled piss and poo have have been since creation.

The only 'loop' which is closed is that which our atmosphere represents.  Heat/radiation comes in.....don't reckon anything gets out.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:11pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:04pm:
No....even water is part of that closed system.  We drink recycled piss and poo have have been since creation.

The only 'loop' which is closed is that which our atmosphere represents.  Heat/radiation comes in.....don't reckon anything gets out.



There are dozens of closed loop systems and we are finding out about more of them every year.

Infrared radiation escapes the Earth especially on clear nights -
that's why clear nights are so cold.
Clouds block that escape.
Therefore clouds form part of a temperature regulating closed loop control system.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:04pm:
No....even water is part of that closed system.  We drink recycled piss and poo have have been since creation.

The only 'loop' which is closed is that which our atmosphere represents.  Heat/radiation comes in.....don't reckon anything gets out.



There are dozens of closed loop systems and we are finding out about more of them every year.

Infrared radiation escapes the Earth especially on clear nights -
that's why clear nights are so cold.
Clouds block that escape.
Therefore clouds form part of a temperature regulating closed loop control system.


Really?  I did a Google, and can find nothing which supports that.  Obviously light must escape our atmosphere......well I assume it must and that if I was on Mars I'd 'see' the Earth.  Is that what you mean?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:29pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:04pm:
No....even water is part of that closed system.  We drink recycled piss and poo have have been since creation.

The only 'loop' which is closed is that which our atmosphere represents.  Heat/radiation comes in.....don't reckon anything gets out.



There are dozens of closed loop systems and we are finding out about more of them every year.

Infrared radiation escapes the Earth especially on clear nights -
that's why clear nights are so cold.
Clouds block that escape.
Therefore clouds form part of a temperature regulating closed loop control system.


Really?  I did a Google, and can find nothing which supports that.  Obviously light must escape our atmosphere......well I assume it must and that if I was on Mars I'd 'see' the Earth.  Is that what you mean?



Come on Aussie:

https://www.weather.gov/jetstream/energy

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:34pm
Okay...so light gets out.  Anything else, Bobby?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:35pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:04pm:
No....even water is part of that closed system.  We drink recycled piss and poo have have been since creation.

The only 'loop' which is closed is that which our atmosphere represents.  Heat/radiation comes in.....don't reckon anything gets out.



There are dozens of closed loop systems and we are finding out about more of them every year.

Infrared radiation escapes the Earth especially on clear nights -
that's why clear nights are so cold.
Clouds block that escape.
Therefore clouds form part of a temperature regulating closed loop control system.


Really?  I did a Google, and can find nothing which supports that.  Obviously light must escape our atmosphere......well I assume it must and that if I was on Mars I'd 'see' the Earth.  Is that what you mean?


The suns radiation hits the Earth, it is converted to heat(infra red), That(IR) radiation is not all reflected back into space, if it was, we'd really have an ice age. Greenhouse gasses redirect IR in different directions. Some leaves into space, some comes back to Earth, some warms the atmosphere, depending on the direction it is re-emitted. The clearness of the sky makes not much difference though water is a GHG and clouds are water. Even on clear days, more IR is kept in the atmosphere or returned to Earth than escape into space. The other(dark) side of the world losing IR does not make up for the incoming.

edit: OK, I may not explain it the best so read this.
https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/climatescience/climatesciencenarratives/what-is-the-greenhouse-effect.html



Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:44pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:04pm:
No....even water is part of that closed system.  We drink recycled piss and poo have have been since creation.

The only 'loop' which is closed is that which our atmosphere represents.  Heat/radiation comes in.....don't reckon anything gets out.



There are dozens of closed loop systems and we are finding out about more of them every year.

Infrared radiation escapes the Earth especially on clear nights -
that's why clear nights are so cold.
Clouds block that escape.
Therefore clouds form part of a temperature regulating closed loop control system.


Really?  I did a Google, and can find nothing which supports that.  Obviously light must escape our atmosphere......well I assume it must and that if I was on Mars I'd 'see' the Earth.  Is that what you mean?


The suns radiation hits the Earth, it is converted to heat(infra red), That(IR) radiation is not all reflected back into space, if it was, we'd really have an ice age. Greenhouse gasses redirect IR in different directions. Some leaves into space, some comes back to Earth, some warms the atmosphere, depending on the direction it is re-emitted. The clearness of the sky makes not much difference though water is a GHG and clouds are water. Even on clear days, more IR is kept in the atmosphere or returned to Earth than escape into space. The other(dark) side of the world losing IR does not make up for the incoming.

edit: OK, I may not explain it the best so read this.
https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/climatescience/climatesciencenarratives/what-is-the-greenhouse-effect.html


So....what gets out is.......'light?'  Just light...nothing else gets out?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:58pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
So....what gets out is.......'light?'  Just light...nothing else gets out?



Yes - only infrared escapes - but not all of it -
it gets blocked to some extent by clouds.
Infrared is long wavelength light - above 700nm
we can't see it but we can feel it as heat.

Infrared cameras pick it up.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
So....what gets out is.......'light?'  Just light...nothing else gets out?



Yes - only infrared escapes - but not all of it -
it gets blocked to some extent by clouds.
Infrared is long wavelength light - above 700nm
we can't see it but we can feel it as heat.

Infrared cameras pick it up.


We can't "see" it with out eyes, but almost every cell in out body can "see" it. Our skin can "see" it. It just doesn't register as images in our brain. Pit vipers can "see" it more than us. As you know people that read braille, don't "see" the dots but they do see it. Our eyes are special in that they see other wave lengths but still not all of them.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
So....what gets out is.......'light?'  Just light...nothing else gets out?



Yes - only infrared escapes - but not all of it -
it gets blocked to some extent by clouds.
Infrared is long wavelength light - above 700nm
we can't see it but we can feel it as heat.

Infrared cameras pick it up.


Yes....and it's called 'light,' the same stuff we see when we look at planets/stars...yes?

Nothing else gets out, yes?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:18pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
So....what gets out is.......'light?'  Just light...nothing else gets out?



Yes - only infrared escapes - but not all of it -
it gets blocked to some extent by clouds.
Infrared is long wavelength light - above 700nm
we can't see it but we can feel it as heat.

Infrared cameras pick it up.


Yes....and it's called 'light,' the same stuff we see when we look at planets/stars...yes?

Nothing else gets out, yes?


Of course it gets out...

The one we are concerned with are the ones that cause heat, even that gets out.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:23pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
So....what gets out is.......'light?'  Just light...nothing else gets out?



Yes - only infrared escapes - but not all of it -
it gets blocked to some extent by clouds.
Infrared is long wavelength light - above 700nm
we can't see it but we can feel it as heat.

Infrared cameras pick it up.


Yes....and it's called 'light,' the same stuff we see when we look at planets/stars...yes?

Nothing else gets out, yes?


Of course it gets out...

The one we are concerned with are the ones that cause heat, even that gets out.


Can you assist me by looking at my words.  What gets out is.....'light'...seen, if I was, on Mars, yes?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:26pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:23pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
So....what gets out is.......'light?'  Just light...nothing else gets out?



Yes - only infrared escapes - but not all of it -
it gets blocked to some extent by clouds.
Infrared is long wavelength light - above 700nm
we can't see it but we can feel it as heat.

Infrared cameras pick it up.


Yes....and it's called 'light,' the same stuff we see when we look at planets/stars...yes?

Nothing else gets out, yes?


Of course it gets out...

The one we are concerned with are the ones that cause heat, even that gets out.


Can you assist me by looking at my words.  What gets out is.....'light'...seen, if I was, on Mars, yes?


Of course, even if you saw only in infra read. That is what I said. "Light"is a spectrum of wavelengths.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:31pm
.....and.....Bobby.....does NOTHING else get out....(other than rockets it  seems?)

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 11:15pm
The latest 'Dear Ice Age Diary' entry for the snake oil salesman.....summary courtesy of Bobby, the Australian 'expert' and 'source.'


Quote:
Blizzard WARNINGS are out for the 3rd Bombogenesis in the last three weeks, which is strange dont you think.


No....who else does?


Quote:
What is happening with the atmosphere and this sudden shift in intensity. It sure isnt CO2, its a Grand Solar Minimum.


Grand Solar Minimum.  Horseshit.  It is cyclical and only Debyne calls it 'grand.'  Fraud.


Quote:
Boston and surrounding areas 3+ feet of snow, expect massive power outages as this snow is wet and heavy. Travel will be disrupted.


No schit Sherlock!  It is cold today in Boston.  Snow and your car and the trains might be inoperable.  What a revelation!


Quote:
Also west coast USA massive rain events on tap and Hawaii 20+ inches of rain coming in the next days.


Huh???  It's gonna rain....as if that has never happened before? 


Quote:
Climate scientists were rescued from ice in Antarctica


Meanwhile...last week some wankers who hiked up some mountain and could not get out....also got rescued right here in Qld.   


Quote:
and the North Pole is still -30 F and continues to cool.


Gee......who ever thought it was very cold at the North Pole.

Run everyone run...to your Bank account and send money to this snake oil salesman so he can augment whatever he is eking out of "Burma."

Gawd.....Bobby.....wake up!


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 14th, 2018 at 11:16pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:31pm:
.....and.....Bobby.....does NOTHING else get out....(other than rockets it  seems?)



Bobby?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:35am

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 11:16pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 9:31pm:
.....and.....Bobby.....does NOTHING else get out....(other than rockets it  seems?)



Bobby?



Of course other light wavelengths escape -
otherwise the Earth would look black from space.
I was referring to heat escaping.
I should have made it more precise.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:51am

Aussie wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 11:15pm:
The latest 'Dear Ice Age Diary' entry for the snake oil salesman.....summary courtesy of Bobby, the Australian 'expert' and 'source.'


Quote:
Blizzard WARNINGS are out for the 3rd Bombogenesis in the last three weeks, which is strange dont you think.


No....who else does?

[quote]What is happening with the atmosphere and this sudden shift in intensity. It sure isnt CO2, its a Grand Solar Minimum.


Grand Solar Minimum.  Horseshit.  It is cyclical and only Debyne calls it 'grand.'  Fraud.


Quote:
Boston and surrounding areas 3+ feet of snow, expect massive power outages as this snow is wet and heavy. Travel will be disrupted.


No schit Sherlock!  It is cold today in Boston.  Snow and your car and the trains might be inoperable.  What a revelation!


Quote:
Also west coast USA massive rain events on tap and Hawaii 20+ inches of rain coming in the next days.


Huh???  It's gonna rain....as if that has never happened before? 


Quote:
Climate scientists were rescued from ice in Antarctica


Meanwhile...last week some wankers who hiked up some mountain and could not get out....also got rescued right here in Qld.   


Quote:
and the North Pole is still -30 F and continues to cool.


Gee......who ever thought it was very cold at the North Pole.

Run everyone run...to your Bank account and send money to this snake oil salesman so he can augment whatever he is eking out of "Burma."

Gawd.....Bobby.....wake up!

[/quote]


dear Aussie,
would you really expect such things to happen in Spring
if the world was roasting under global warming?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 9:39am

Quote:
would you really expect such things to happen in Spring


Yes, as it has happened before.  That's another problem with deByne....he beats everything up as though it is all unique.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 15th, 2018 at 11:55am
Earth is a black body: it emits no visible light. It emits infrared after being hit with EM radiation—light and other wavelengths from the sun. By emitting IR a black body cools down.

H2O and CO2 in the atmosphere absorb and re-emit IR, sending more and more back down to the surface as CO2 concentrations increase. This warms the surface. We know that as CO2 concentrations increase less IR can escape by spectrometric observations from satellites and from the surface. There is no doubt that the Earth is warming too!

The Mexican Gulf is 0.5–3°C hotter than normal. That is nothing—the North Atlantic is up to NINE degrees Celsius hotter! Imagine how much moisture and energy these warm seas feed into the storms.

For a real coverage of the cause of these storms look at:
https://robertscribbler.com/2018/03/13/why-are-so-many-powerful-noreasters-striking-new-england

In comments you will see an observation that this chain of northeasters is like the “conveyor belt” of storms that hit the UK in 2014—also caused by a ridge of the Jet Stream.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:30pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 9:39am:

Quote:
would you really expect such things to happen in Spring


Yes, as it has happened before.  That's another problem with deByne....he beats everything up as though it is all unique.



Wrong - with global warming you'd expect an early start to spring
not people up to their necks in ice and snow.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 9:39am:

Quote:
would you really expect such things to happen in Spring


Yes, as it has happened before.  That's another problem with deByne....he beats everything up as though it is all unique.



Wrong - with global warming you'd expect an early start to spring
not people up to their necks in ice and snow.


Bullshit.  One longer Winter an Ice Age does not make.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:35pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 11:55am:
Earth is a black body: it emits no visible light. It emits infrared after being hit with EM radiation—light and other wavelengths from the sun. By emitting IR a black body cools down.

H2O and CO2 in the atmosphere absorb and re-emit IR, sending more and more back down to the surface as CO2 concentrations increase. This warms the surface. We know that as CO2 concentrations increase less IR can escape by spectrometric observations from satellites and from the surface. There is no doubt that the Earth is warming too!

The Mexican Gulf is 0.5–3°C hotter than normal. That is nothing—the North Atlantic is up to NINE degrees Celsius hotter! Imagine how much moisture and energy these warm seas feed into the storms.

For a real coverage of the cause of these storms look at:
https://robertscribbler.com/2018/03/13/why-are-so-many-powerful-noreasters-striking-new-england

In comments you will see an observation that this chain of northeasters is like the “conveyor belt” of storms that hit the UK in 2014—also caused by a ridge of the Jet Stream.



And that snake oil salesman said:


Quote:
There, ocean temperatures were ranging between 0.5 and as high as 9 C above normal over parts of the Gulf Stream.


with no link to prove it.

You've gotta do better Monk.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:36pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 9:39am:

Quote:
would you really expect such things to happen in Spring


Yes, as it has happened before.  That's another problem with deByne....he beats everything up as though it is all unique.



Wrong - with global warming you'd expect an early start to spring
not people up to their necks in ice and snow.


Bullshit.  One longer Winter an Ice Age does not make.



Bullshit - it's exactly what David DuByne predicted.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 9:39am:

Quote:
would you really expect such things to happen in Spring


Yes, as it has happened before.  That's another problem with deByne....he beats everything up as though it is all unique.



Wrong - with global warming you'd expect an early start to spring
not people up to their necks in ice and snow.


Bullshit.  One longer Winter an Ice Age does not make.



Bullshit - it's exactly what David DuByne predicted.


I see.  So, you are saying he is an expert?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:40pm
From the LINK in my post:



The snake oil salesman NEVER predicted an Atlantic up to 9°C warmer than usual. He did NOT predict the shape of the Jet Stream and he did NOT predict a WARM ARCTIC!

Robert Scribbler UNLIKE your hero, the snake oil salesman, does not run ads and does not ask for donations. He also talks science not schit.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:05pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 9:39am:

Quote:
would you really expect such things to happen in Spring


Yes, as it has happened before.  That's another problem with deByne....he beats everything up as though it is all unique.



Wrong - with global warming you'd expect an early start to spring
not people up to their necks in ice and snow.


Bullshit.  One longer Winter an Ice Age does not make.



Bullshit - it's exactly what David DuByne predicted.


I see.  So, you are saying he is an expert?



dear Aussie,
He must be an expert -
he's got more things right thank Monk's guru - Al Gore -
who has had a 100% failure rate in his predictions.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:17pm
Dubyne has gotten nothing right. That is because he knows nothing about climate or even weather.

He often describes high precipitation—if we were cooling there would be less evaporation so less precipitation.

His basic tenet is a lie: a GSM will bring about an ice age. A GSM would bring cooling of 0.3°C. We have warmed 1.2°C so a GSM is nothing, basically. Yet people are spending thousands of dollars preparing, like you with your house full of survival junk.

Find ONE word I have spoken about Al Gore, just ONE. When you can’t—apologise, if you are man enough which I doubt. You never apologised for your unprovoked trolling of me and mothra—that is the action of a worm. Al Gore is an American politician, not even in office! I have no idea why you keep lying about this politician being a guru of mine or Barnacle. Maybe you want to believe we are dupes like you? 

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 4:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 9:39am:

Quote:
would you really expect such things to happen in Spring


Yes, as it has happened before.  That's another problem with deByne....he beats everything up as though it is all unique.



Wrong - with global warming you'd expect an early start to spring
not people up to their necks in ice and snow.


Bullshit.  One longer Winter an Ice Age does not make.



Bullshit - it's exactly what David DuByne predicted.


I see.  So, you are saying he is an expert?



dear Aussie,
He must be an expert -
he's got more things right thank Monk's guru - Al Gore -
who has had a 100% failure rate in his predictions.


I see, so were were lying here:

Link.


Quote:
Master Light, me & David DuByne are all messengers -


Who is DuByne 'messaging' for Bobby?

;)

Have you ensured he retracted that fraud/lie that you are an expert and 'Australian source?'



Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:22pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:17pm:
Dubyne has gotten nothing right. That is because he knows nothing about climate or even weather.

He often describes high precipitation—if we were cooling there would be less evaporation so less precipitation.

His basic tenet is a lie: a GSM will bring about an ice age. A GSM would bring cooling of 0.3°C. We have warmed 1.2°C so a GSM is nothing, basically. Yet people are spending thousands of dollars preparing, like you with your house full of survival junk.

Find ONE word I have spoken about Al Gore, just ONE. When you can’t—apologise, if you are man enough which I doubt. You never apologised for your unprovoked trolling of me and mothra—that is the action of a worm. Al Gore is an American politician, not even in office! I have no idea why you keep lying about this politician being a guru of mine or Barnacle. Maybe you want to believe we are dupes like you? 



Monk - you're being disngenuous because your storyline
comes out of the same book as Al Gore.
You might as well be his parrot.


Jesus - you hold grudges - carrying on about you & Mothra from
a year ago when you were throwing a lot of mud at me
& when I fought back we both got banned.
That's why I feared ever engaging with you -
you cause people to get banned -
you start flame wars with your insults.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:22pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:17pm:
Dubyne has gotten nothing right. That is because he knows nothing about climate or even weather.

He often describes high precipitation—if we were cooling there would be less evaporation so less precipitation.

His basic tenet is a lie: a GSM will bring about an ice age. A GSM would bring cooling of 0.3°C. We have warmed 1.2°C so a GSM is nothing, basically. Yet people are spending thousands of dollars preparing, like you with your house full of survival junk.

Find ONE word I have spoken about Al Gore, just ONE. When you can’t—apologise, if you are man enough which I doubt. You never apologised for your unprovoked trolling of me and mothra—that is the action of a worm. Al Gore is an American politician, not even in office! I have no idea why you keep lying about this politician being a guru of mine or Barnacle. Maybe you want to believe we are dupes like you? 



Monk - you're being disngenuous because your storyline
comes out of the same book as Al Gore.
You might as well be his parrot.


Jesus - you hold grudges - carrying on about you & Mothra from
a year ago when you were throwing a lot of mud at me
& when I fought back we both got banned.
That's why I feared ever engaging with you -
you cause people to get banned -
you start flame wars with your insults.


I think you just tried to re-ignite it Bobby, and I ask that Monk let it pass through to the 'keeper.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:32pm
So Al Gore is not my guru. Apology please.

I have had science training and am a qualified scientist. I make my own mind up, don’t rely on a huckster like Dubyne who clearly knows nothing and runs with the lie GSM=LIA then does not give any evidence of a GSM! I look at the evidence—have posted tons of it.

Until an apology to me and to mothra is issued I will be on your case about it. Be a man!

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:35pm
I'm assuming this 'GSM' is the snake oil salesman's 'grand solar minimum.'  If so, it truly is bullshit.  A simple Google by an ignorant like me establishes that.

'Grand?'  Crap.

Yes, we are entering the usual and quite normal cycle of a solar minimum.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:41pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:32pm:
So Al Gore is not my guru. Apology please.

I have had science training and am a qualified scientist. I make my own mind up, don’t rely on a huckster like Dubyne who clearly knows nothing and runs with the lie GSM=LIA then does not give any evidence of a GSM! I look at the evidence—have posted tons of it.

Until an apology to me and to mothra is issued I will be on your case about it. Be a man!



Monk,
No apology required -
you got me banned - if anything you should apologise to me.

A true scientist would consider all theories based on evidence.
There is strong evidence for both sides of this case.
You're like a horse with blinkers -
you see only a narrow view of one side of the argument.

People are literally up to their necks in ice and snow in
your supposed global warming theory
& it's spring in the Northern hemisphere.
Take a dose of reality not your twighlight zone of extreme certainty
about something as inexplicit as climate.
BTW - I studied science for a very long time at Uni.
You knew nothing about closed loop systems until I told you.
You're not the only one with qualifications -
yours being rather dubious in my humble opinion.



Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:41pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:32pm:
So Al Gore is not my guru. Apology please.

I have had science training and am a qualified scientist. I make my own mind up, don’t rely on a huckster like Dubyne who clearly knows nothing and runs with the lie GSM=LIA then does not give any evidence of a GSM! I look at the evidence—have posted tons of it.

Until an apology to me and to mothra is issued I will be on your case about it. Be a man!




Quote:
Monk,
No apology required -
you got me banned - if anything you should apologise to me.


People get themselves banned here Bobby. 

*snip*

[quote]People are literally up to their necks in ice and snow in
your supposed global warming theory
& it's spring in the Northern hemisphere.


Just into Spring, and you and Dubyne are beating snow up as though it never happened before.


*snip*


Quote:
BTW - I studied science for a very long time at Uni.
You knew nothing about closed loop systems until I told you.
You're not the only one with qualifications -
yours being rather dubious in my humble opinion.


Yes, and I am Hawking's replacement.....because I said so.  Bobby, you have never shown any evidence of any training in anything.  Making the claim, does not make it true.  Every time I have asked you, you ran away bellowing that I was prying.  You make these claims Bobby.  I want some evidence they are true.  You are careful with your language......you 'studied' science, but you stop short of saying that you graduated with any sort of degree in science.

Why is that Bobby?




Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 15th, 2018 at 6:00pm
Still with the I made you troll me. You are not a man, that is for sure!

I studied Physics to second year at University, you really reckon I didn’t know about feedback loops? Just not credible.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 6:06pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:41pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 5:32pm:
So Al Gore is not my guru. Apology please.

I have had science training and am a qualified scientist. I make my own mind up, don’t rely on a huckster like Dubyne who clearly knows nothing and runs with the lie GSM=LIA then does not give any evidence of a GSM! I look at the evidence—have posted tons of it.

Until an apology to me and to mothra is issued I will be on your case about it. Be a man!




Quote:
Monk,
No apology required -
you got me banned - if anything you should apologise to me.


People get themselves banned here Bobby. 

*snip*

[quote]People are literally up to their necks in ice and snow in
your supposed global warming theory
& it's spring in the Northern hemisphere.


Just into Spring, and you and Dubyne are beating snow up as though it never happened before.


*snip*

[quote]BTW - I studied science for a very long time at Uni.
You knew nothing about closed loop systems until I told you.
You're not the only one with qualifications -
yours being rather dubious in my humble opinion.


Yes, and I am Hawking's replacement.....because I said so.  Bobby, you have never shown any evidence of any training in anything.  Making the claim, does not make it true.  Every time I have asked you, you ran away bellowing that I was prying.  You make these claims Bobby.  I want some evidence they are true.  You are careful with your language......you 'studied' science, but you stop short of saying that you graduated with any sort of degree in science.

Why is that Bobby?

[/quote]


What do want Aussie,
me to reveal my identity by posting a copy of my qualifications?
Would you like a photo of me as well?
That's not going to happen.
This is an anonymous forum -
people can judge me by my arguments not by anything else.

People can see that I have an open mind -
I said there was strong evidence for both sides of the
case not just Al Gore's side.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 6:09pm

Quote:
What do want Aussie,
me to reveal my identity by posting a copy of my qualifications?
Would you like a photo of me as well?
That's not going to happen.
This is an anonymous forum -
people can judge me by my arguments not by anything else.

People can see that I have an open mind -
I said there was strong evidence for both sides of the
case not just Al Gore's side.


Just a simple statement.

I have the following degrees.......

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 6:18pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 6:09pm:

Quote:
What do want Aussie,
me to reveal my identity by posting a copy of my qualifications?
Would you like a photo of me as well?
That's not going to happen.
This is an anonymous forum -
people can judge me by my arguments not by anything else.

People can see that I have an open mind -
I said there was strong evidence for both sides of the
case not just Al Gore's side.


Just a simple statement.

I have the following degrees.......



No - you don't get that.
All you'll get is my claim to be a humble messenger.
That's all I'm ever going to claim to be.
Anything else is not provable.
In any case even aclaimed NASA scientists like John Casey
have been put down on this forum as he has written books
about the new cold climate coming to us
which are in contradiction of global warming.
He's been rubbished by posters such as Monk.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm

Quote:
No - you don't get that.


Then I shall ignore and regard as rubbish that you 'studied' science.  Monk is qualified, you are not.  Those are the facts, and you are not disputing them.  DuByne is unqualified, Monk is.

Never heard of Casey...and what would a bloke working in the inter space industry (NASA) know about climate?

You also said DuBybne is a mere messenger, yet you now say he is an expert.  Which one is it Bobby, expert on climate science or a link in a 'Chinese whispers' scenario?

;)

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 7:29pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm:

Quote:
No - you don't get that.


Then I shall ignore and regard as rubbish that you 'studied' science.  Monk is qualified, you are not.  Those are the facts, and you are not disputing them.  DuByne is unqualified, Monk is.

Never heard of Casey...and what would a bloke working in the inter space industry (NASA) know about climate?

You also said DuBybne is a mere messenger, yet you now say he is an expert.  Which one is it Bobby, expert on climate science or a link in a 'Chinese whispers' scenario?

;)



How would you know for sure that Monk is qualified?
You're not a scientist so you can't see through his drivel.

If Monk said he was a messenger with an open mind I might believe him.
Monk is not a climate scientist.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 7:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 7:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm:

Quote:
No - you don't get that.


Then I shall ignore and regard as rubbish that you 'studied' science.  Monk is qualified, you are not.  Those are the facts, and you are not disputing them.  DuByne is unqualified, Monk is.

Never heard of Casey...and what would a bloke working in the inter space industry (NASA) know about climate?

You also said DuBybne is a mere messenger, yet you now say he is an expert.  Which one is it Bobby, expert on climate science or a link in a 'Chinese whispers' scenario?

;)



How would you know for sure that Monk is qualified?
You're not a scientist so you can't see through his drivel.

If Monk said he was a messenger with an open mind I might believe him.
Monk is not a climate scientist.


I've never seen him say he was, and I've never said he is either.  I have said he is 'qualified.'  Sure, he could be lying, but I somehow doubt it.  I certainly reckon you are not qualified at all, notwithstanding your shallow claim that you studied science.  That could mean anything even as much as SFA.

Have you and DuByne corrected that lie about your status as an 'expert' etc, Bobby.  If not, it is further damning evidence of his charlatan status.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 8:01pm

Quote:
An unbelievable 4th Nor'easter is on the way to the same area that just received a late season blizzard breaking all time daily total snow records. 200,000+ homes without power as trees and power lines snap. Massive cold front to follow as Arctic air is pulled trailing the storm. The grand solar minimum intensifies and a timeline for the intensification so you can see for yourself the changes we are seeing are from the Sun, not CO2.


WTF is unbelievable?  'Dear Ice age Diary...there was a blizzard in Boston.'  So what, it happens often!

And here we go again with the over dramatic crap .... 'super freeze' and 'grand solar minimum.'

That is just contrived 'talk it up' garbage and if you can't see it Booby, how come this ignorant can?

Clearly, this bloke goes looking for images which suit his purpose, and then wraps his script around them to sell his snake oil.  He is not an objective commentator at all.  He is faux entrenched, flogs crap and people are urged to send him money....so he can do what?  Buy beer or put that money into genuine scientific research?  The bloke has all the hall marks of those medicine men who tramped in their horse drawn cart around frontier America back in the day flogging their bottled cure for coughs, colds, warts and moles.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 8:19pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 8:01pm:

Quote:
An unbelievable 4th Nor'easter is on the way to the same area that just received a late season blizzard breaking all time daily total snow records. 200,000+ homes without power as trees and power lines snap. Massive cold front to follow as Arctic air is pulled trailing the storm. The grand solar minimum intensifies and a timeline for the intensification so you can see for yourself the changes we are seeing are from the Sun, not CO2.


WTF is unbelievable?  'Dear Ice age Diary...there was a blizzard in Boston.'  So what, it happens often!

And here we go again with the over dramatic crap .... 'super freeze' and 'grand solar minimum.'

That is just contrived 'talk it up' garbage and if you can't see it Booby, how come this ignorant can?

Clearly, this bloke goes looking for images which suit his purpose, and then wraps his script around them to sell his snake oil.  He is not an objective commentator at all.  He is faux entrenched, flogs crap and people are urged to send him money....so he can do what?  Buy beer or put that money into genuine scientific research?  The bloke has all the hall marks of those medicine men who tramped in their horse drawn cart around frontier America back in the day flogging their bottled cure for coughs, colds, warts and moles.



Aussie - that's a nasty put down of a person
who genuinely believes what he's saying.
You would not expect such snow storms now.

David gave a link:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYQY1KZVQAAJWBH.jpg

freezing in Florida in Spring which is nearly in the tropics.
What more evidence do you want?.
Do you have to have millions die in the snow before you're convinced?

Aussie - I don't think you're genuine -
you must see that there's something wrong here?
Are you just trolling to get more hits on the relationship forum?
Are you using me?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 8:26pm
No Bobby....I am attacking DuByne front on.  He is a wanker You Tube video producer.  Simple as that.  Not one event DuByne refers to is unique to this Year or northern hemisphere Winters.

The solar minimum is cyclical and yes, we are entering a minimum phase now just like we have a zillion times before.

I'd love to see David here.  I'd back off on the terminology as he then would be a Member, but he would have to defend his spiel directly, instead of what he does......which is.....bung up some You Tube video, and be immune to any direct questioning/debate/discussion.

He is presently hiding behind...some absurd 'focus' skirt.  And you still have not said:

Have you and DuByne corrected that lie about your status as an 'expert' etc, Bobby.  If not, it is further damning evidence of his charlatan status.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 15th, 2018 at 8:30pm
Aussie is using me. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 8:32pm

Quote:
freezing in Florida in Spring which is nearly in the tropics.



Quote:
Florida has experienced 12 major freezes. This includes four "impact" freezes, sufficiently severe to kill entire groves of citrus trees, resulting in a noticeable economic effect on citrus growers, prompting them to t groves further south in the state. These impact freezes are indicated by asterisks in the following: Great Freeze of 1894-5*, February 13–14, 1899, February 2–6, 1917, December 12–13, 1934, January 1940, December 12–13, 1957, December 12–13, 1962*, January 18–20, 1977, January 12–14, 1981, December 24–25, 1983*, January 20–22, 1985, and December 22–26, 1989*.[13]


Wiki.  No mention in Wiki of anything untoward NOW.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 8:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
Aussie is using me. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Garbage.  Does that sound like some University graduate bloke who has studied science, or someone stuck in Kindergarten.  Wake up Bobby.  I know who is using you and it is not me.

Read this Bobby:

Link.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 15th, 2018 at 9:46pm
It is so easy to debunk the lies by Dubyne.

People like Booby believe the crap for emotional reasons. None have any scientific training, obviously. Question something the snake oil seller says and they get abusive quickly. They do not understand that local ≠ global. Dubyne only covers local events.

Booby said something earlier about huge rain heading to Hawaii—where does he think the moisture to form the rain came from? If we were cooling we would be seeing LESS evaporation.

There was discussion about the size of hail. Quite amusing, really: if you look up wiki on hail you can see that as more warmth and more moisture is fed into thunderstorms hail could increase in size. Nothing to do with the mythical ice age because the cooling that forms hail happens high up in the atmosphere, not on the surface.

My old man died late January nearly 20 years ago. As you would expect, it was it warm day. About 4.00pm there was a hailstorm, golfball sized hail. Nobody is going to even hint the the warmth of a January day made the big hail fall—all happened way up in the atmosphere. Nobody there gets that, including “science trained” Booby.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 15th, 2018 at 11:03pm
I just noticed this post of yours in the Yank Forum, Bobby.  You posted:


Quote:
no one would be stupid enough to
spend all day looking for anti-Trump
propaganda & posting it here -


This could be said of DuByne (and indirectly of yourself:)


Quote:
No one would be stupid enough to spend all day looking for pro ice age propaganda & posting it anywhere.


;)

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 5:20am

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 9:46pm:
It is so easy to debunk the lies by Dubyne.

People like Booby believe the crap for emotional reasons. None have any scientific training, obviously. Question something the snake oil seller says and they get abusive quickly. They do not understand that local ≠ global. Dubyne only covers local events.

Booby said something earlier about huge rain heading to Hawaii—where does he think the moisture to form the rain came from? If we were cooling we would be seeing LESS evaporation.

There was discussion about the size of hail. Quite amusing, really: if you look up wiki on hail you can see that as more warmth and more moisture is fed into thunderstorms hail could increase in size. Nothing to do with the mythical ice age because the cooling that forms hail happens high up in the atmosphere, not on the surface.

My old man died late January nearly 20 years ago. As you would expect, it was it warm day. About 4.00pm there was a hailstorm, golfball sized hail. Nobody is going to even hint the the warmth of a January day made the big hail fall—all happened way up in the atmosphere. Nobody there gets that, including “science trained” Booby.



Monk,
while you're stuck in your own reality Mechanic has posted a
good video on the ice age thread.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464603949/4725#4725

by Robert Felix.

Is he snake oil salesman too?

It seems you have a term of abuse for everyone who doesn't agree
with your Al Gore theories.
You're not a climate scientist & you have a closed mind.
You're also leading your boozy drinking buddy Aussie down the wrong path.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 16th, 2018 at 8:26am
Nice ad hom there, Booby!

Robert Felix:

Quote:
Robert W. Felix - RationalWiki
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Robert_W._Felix
Apr 12, 2017 - Robert W. Felix is a crank extraordinaire promoting his own brand of Earth changes, which acts as a framework that he can shoehorn various other types of crankery into. All of his "theories" revolve around pole shifts and cosmic rays.


You can believe clowns and snake oil sellers if you like.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 16th, 2018 at 8:33am
This is probably beyond you, Booby, with your lack of science and brain rot from watching 500+ stupid videos but here goes:


Quote:
Abstract

Arctic sea-ice loss is a leading indicator of climate change and can be attributed, in large part, to atmospheric forcing. Here, we show that recent ice reductions, weakening of the halocline, and shoaling of the intermediate-depth Atlantic Water layer in the eastern Eurasian Basin have increased winter ventilation in the ocean interior, making this region structurally similar to that of the western Eurasian Basin. The associated enhanced release of oceanic heat has reduced winter sea-ice formation at a rate now comparable to losses from atmospheric thermodynamic forcing, thus explaining the recent reduction in sea-ice cover in the eastern Eurasian Basin. This encroaching “atlantification” of the Eurasian Basin represents an essential step toward a new Arctic climate state, with a substantially greater role for Atlantic inflows.


Very important finding!

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 8:42am

Quote:
your boozy drinking buddy Aussie


Would I be allowed to refer to you in those terms at DeByne's MRB Bobby?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 16th, 2018 at 8:59am
“DuByne's MRB” 

[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

It is true tho. “Environment” is just Dubyne now. Booby tried to start another topic but the fact is that thorium power does not offer all that much benefit compared to uranium power.

All this idiotic ice age crap and Booby’s poll, like mine, shows that nobody believes in his ice age crap besides Booby and The Moronic. And he edits people’s posts, quite the nono.

What a waste of a board. :'(

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 12:57pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 8:42am:

Quote:
your boozy drinking buddy Aussie


Would I be allowed to refer to you in those terms at DeByne's MRB Bobby?



Does David DuByne have a member run board?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 1:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 12:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 8:42am:

Quote:
your boozy drinking buddy Aussie


Would I be allowed to refer to you in those terms at DeByne's MRB Bobby?



Does David DuByne have a member run board?


It seems so....called Environment.

Would I be allowed to refer to you in those terms there, Bobby.  You know, refer to you as a boozy drinking bloke?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 1:23pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 12:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 8:42am:

Quote:
your boozy drinking buddy Aussie


Would I be allowed to refer to you in those terms at DeByne's MRB Bobby?



Does David DuByne have a member run board?


It seems so....called Environment.

Would I be allowed to refer to you in those terms there, Bobby.  You know, refer to you as a boozy drinking bloke?



No - because I don't drink.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 1:39pm
And what makes you think that I am a boozy drinker, Bobby?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 1:42pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 8:26am:
Nice ad hom there, Booby!

Robert Felix:

Quote:
Robert W. Felix - RationalWiki
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Robert_W._Felix
Apr 12, 2017 - Robert W. Felix is a crank extraordinaire promoting his own brand of Earth changes, which acts as a framework that he can shoehorn various other types of crankery into. All of his "theories" revolve around pole shifts and cosmic rays.


You can believe clowns and snake oil sellers if you like.


Looks like Felix is a shonk, hey Bobby?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 1:44pm
....I forgot to remind you:

Have you and DuByne corrected that lie about your status as an 'expert' etc, Bobby.  If not, it is further damning evidence of his charlatan status.

Has it been corrected, Bobby?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 16th, 2018 at 2:04pm
More psudoscience, in the Dubyne MRB:


Quote:
im sure everyone on here knows that a sign of thousands of ants on the move means rains are coming in within a day or 3...


I can’t foretell the future, ants can’t predict the future. Ants come out when the air is humid and they won’t dessicate.

There is some correlation of humidity with rain but it isn’t 100%. Adelaide summers are getting increasingly humid in summer but summer rain is rare.

Sloppy thinking—no wonder The Moronic believes Dubyne’s bulldust!

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 2:22pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
And what makes you think that I am a boozy drinker, Bobby?



dear Aussie,
I find that late at night you make silly spelling errors
& your grammar also suffers.
You also become more quarrelsome & erratic.
It could be due to tiredness but I
also remember you & Monk fondly discussing types of alcoholic beverages on his forum.
Needless to say it's obvious you enjoy a little drink -
not that there's anything wrong with that.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 2:24pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 1:44pm:
....I forgot to remind you:

Have you and DuByne corrected that lie about your status as an 'expert' etc, Bobby.  If not, it is further damning evidence of his charlatan status.

Has it been corrected, Bobby?



dear Aussie,
I don't think he meant it in a serious legal type of manner.
It was just loose language -
perhaps hyperbole not meant to deceive?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 2:25pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
More psudoscience, in the Dubyne MRB:


Quote:
im sure everyone on here knows that a sign of thousands of ants on the move means rains are coming in within a day or 3...


I can’t foretell the future, ants can’t predict the future. Ants come out when the air is humid and they won’t dessicate.

There is some correlation of humidity with rain but it isn’t 100%. Adelaide summers are getting increasingly humid in summer but summer rain is rare.

Sloppy thinking—no wonder The Moronic believes Dubyne’s bulldust!


Perhaps Bobby can pass this on to the S.O.S. Man.

Link.


Quote:
There is no scientific literature on the subject. While it's possible ants can detect barometric pressure better than we can, the only evidence of this is stories and urban legends that never come with an identification of the species. In other words, nothing trustworthy or usable.

Don't despair! Ants are still awesome, because even if they cannot predict the rain, they respond to it quickly. A flooded ant nest would mean the drowning of the colony, so once the rain starts to fall ants are very quick to respond. In less than a minute, the entire colony will be mobilized. Some ants have specially built nest chambers that stay dry and oxygenated while the rest of the nest fills with water. Others evacuate.


How embarrassing for S.O.S Man.

;D

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 3:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 2:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 1:44pm:
....I forgot to remind you:

Have you and DuByne corrected that lie about your status as an 'expert' etc, Bobby.  If not, it is further damning evidence of his charlatan status.

Has it been corrected, Bobby?



dear Aussie,
I don't think he meant it in a serious legal type of manner.
It was just loose language -
perhaps hyperbole not meant to deceive?


Post the video here so we can all have a listen.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 3:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 2:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
And what makes you think that I am a boozy drinker, Bobby?



dear Aussie,
I find that late at night you make silly spelling errors
& your grammar also suffers.
You also become more quarrelsome & erratic.
It could be due to tiredness but I
also remember you & Monk fondly discussing types of alcoholic beverages on his forum.
Needless to say it's obvious you enjoy a little drink -
not that there's anything wrong with that.


I make as many 'mistakes' at all other times as well, Bobby.  Two finger typing and a brain which works faster than those two fingers will produce typos etc.

My tipple is VB.  Why do you (falsely) allege I am a boozy drinker, now Bobby?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 16th, 2018 at 3:36pm
Booby talks 100% bulldust all the time. LSD? Magic mushrooms? Pot?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 9:58pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Booby talks 100% bulldust all the time. LSD? Magic mushrooms? Pot?



dear Aussie,
are you going to allow the above slur to remain on your sub forum?
My fine reputation is on the line.

sincerely
Bobby

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 9:58pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Booby talks 100% bulldust all the time. LSD? Magic mushrooms? Pot?



dear Aussie,
are you going to allow the above slur to remain on your sub forum?
My fine reputation is on the line.

sincerely
Bobby


Sure....just like I have not removed your boozy drinking comment which impinges on my far finer fine reputation.

Are you happy to abandon Robert Felix as he is obviously a shonk as Monk has referenced?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:15pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 9:58pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 3:36pm:
Booby talks 100% bulldust all the time. LSD? Magic mushrooms? Pot?



dear Aussie,
are you going to allow the above slur to remain on your sub forum?
My fine reputation is on the line.

sincerely
Bobby


Sure....just like I have not removed your boozy drinking comment which impinges on my far finer fine reputation.

Are you happy to abandon Robert Felix as he is obviously a shonk as Monk has referenced?


Come on Aussie - you hit the bottle -
you've even admitted it before.

Robert Felix?
Get his book Aussie & judge for yourself - not agree with those with vested interests.


https://www.iceagenow.info/coming-ice-age-interview-robert-felix/





Quote:
Not by Fire But by Ice
by Robert W. Felix
4.14  ·  Rating details ·  21 Ratings  ·  3 Reviews
"The next ice age could begin any day! Next week, next month, next year, it's not a question of if, only when. One day you'll wake up--or won't wake up, rather -- buried beneath nine stories of snow as the climate of Greenland descends on Canada, Britain, Norway and most of the north..practically overnight. It's all part of a dependable, predictable, natural cycle that returns like clockwork every 11,500 years.


https://www.iceagenow.info/about-the-author/


Quote:
In the early 1990s, drawn by a different passion, he signed up for further studies at the University of Washington. He spent the next eight years, full-time, researching and writing about the coming ice age.

Felix is not affiliated with any university, scientific establishment, or corporation, and therein lies his strength. Untainted by institutional bias or conventional wisdom this architect turned author brings fresh insight to the study of the ice ages.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:20pm
Completely incorrect.  The last time my lips touched any bottle or glass thing with alcohol in it would have been decades ago.

You are wrong Bobby.  Again.

I don't care if Felix wrote some book and got very few thumbs up.

He is a shonk as Monk has demonstrated.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:22pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:20pm:
Completely incorrect.  The last time my lips touched any bottle or glass thing with alcohol in it would have been decades ago.

You are wrong Bobby.  Again.

I don't care if Felix wrote some book and got very few thumbs up.

He is a shonk as Monk has demonstrated.



OK - you trust Monk better than a best selling author
who studied the topic for 8 years at University -
that's your call &
I respect your decision.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:20pm:
Completely incorrect.  The last time my lips touched any bottle or glass thing with alcohol in it would have been decades ago.

You are wrong Bobby.  Again.

I don't care if Felix wrote some book and got very few thumbs up.

He is a shonk as Monk has demonstrated.



OK - you trust Monk better than a best selling author
who studied the topic for 8 years at University -
that's your call &
I respect your decision.


Can you show me evidence that Felix is a best selling author.  Who said he was/is best selling and what is/was the criteria.

Off to bed now Bobby.  Golf in the early morning for the first time in three weeks of no rain and stuff.

Cheers.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:31pm
Goodnight Aussie - sweet dreams.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:34pm
I think you need a strategic withdrawal plan Bobby.
Yeah but
No but
Yeah but
OK

An ice is coming, just not in the next 10 years. The ice tide is out now and it will come in again as it has before. In fact our involvement in our planet's climate may see us skip the next tide returning and that would be a good thing if we survive the interim.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:34pm:
I think you need a strategic withdrawal plan Bobby.
Yeah but
No but
Yeah but
OK

An ice is coming, just not in the next 10 years. The ice tide is out now and it will come in again as it has before. In fact our involvement in our planet's climate may see us skip the next tide returning and that would be a good thing if we survive the interim.



dear Set,
I'm in a buoyant mood tonight -
I have a lot of things going on in my life & it's all quite exciting.
I really can't take this all so seriously.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:34pm:
I think you need a strategic withdrawal plan Bobby.
Yeah but
No but
Yeah but
OK

An ice is coming, just not in the next 10 years. The ice tide is out now and it will come in again as it has before. In fact our involvement in our planet's climate may see us skip the next tide returning and that would be a good thing if we survive the interim.



dear Set,
I'm in a buoyant mood tonight -
I have a lot of things going on in my life & it's all quite exciting.
I really can't take this all so seriously.


I'm drinking too Bobby, cheers! ;D

I'm kinda down myself but I won't bore you with it but I will say I hate moving, some really big financial decisions to make for our family are in the works. Life has it's ups and downs like the Earth has it's tides of ice.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:50pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:34pm:
I think you need a strategic withdrawal plan Bobby.
Yeah but
No but
Yeah but
OK

An ice is coming, just not in the next 10 years. The ice tide is out now and it will come in again as it has before. In fact our involvement in our planet's climate may see us skip the next tide returning and that would be a good thing if we survive the interim.



dear Set,
I'm in a buoyant mood tonight -
I have a lot of things going on in my life & it's all quite exciting.
I really can't take this all so seriously.


I'm drinking too Bobby, cheers! ;D

I'm kinda down myself but I won't bore you with it but I will say I hate moving, some really big financial decisions to make for our family are in the works. Life has it's ups and downs like the Earth has it's tides of ice.



I'm only drinking lemon juice.
I'm in the middle of huge financial decisions too.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:34pm:
I think you need a strategic withdrawal plan Bobby.
Yeah but
No but
Yeah but
OK

An ice is coming, just not in the next 10 years. The ice tide is out now and it will come in again as it has before. In fact our involvement in our planet's climate may see us skip the next tide returning and that would be a good thing if we survive the interim.



dear Set,
I'm in a buoyant mood tonight -
I have a lot of things going on in my life & it's all quite exciting.
I really can't take this all so seriously.


I'm drinking too Bobby, cheers! ;D

I'm kinda down myself but I won't bore you with it but I will say I hate moving, some really big financial decisions to make for our family are in the works. Life has it's ups and downs like the Earth has it's tides of ice.



I'm only drinking lemon juice.
I'm in the middle of huge financial decisions too.


Grape juice for me tonight. Lemons are out of season.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by The Mechanic on Mar 17th, 2018 at 2:59pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:34pm:
I think you need a strategic withdrawal plan Bobby.
Yeah but
No but
Yeah but
OK

An ice is coming, just not in the next 10 years. The ice tide is out now and it will come in again as it has before. In fact our involvement in our planet's climate may see us skip the next tide returning and that would be a good thing if we survive the interim.



dear Set,
I'm in a buoyant mood tonight -
I have a lot of things going on in my life & it's all quite exciting.
I really can't take this all so seriously.


I'm drinking too Bobby, cheers! ;D

I'm kinda down myself but I won't bore you with it but I will say I hate moving, some really big financial decisions to make for our family are in the works. Life has it's ups and downs like the Earth has it's tides of ice.



I'm only drinking lemon juice.
I'm in the middle of huge financial decisions too.


Grape juice for me tonight. Lemons are out of season.


maybe you should be moving environment topics to the environment boards ... Setanta  :-?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 17th, 2018 at 3:55pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 17th, 2018 at 2:59pm:
maybe you should be moving environment topics to the environment boards ... Setanta  :-?


We don’t have an Environment board anymore.

We have a Dubyne MRB where the mod changes peoples’ posts.

FD should hive off the stupid Ice Age Crap thread to a new MRB and appoint a decent Mod to Environment.

Barnacle would be a decent Mod, someone else can take over Atheism.

FD—you should action this if you want a vital forum and not a hole where Environment used to be.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 17th, 2018 at 4:56pm

Quote:
We have a Dubyne MRB where the mod changes peoples’ posts.


Only posts with off topic abuse were ever deleted.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Setanta on Mar 17th, 2018 at 5:12pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 17th, 2018 at 2:59pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:50pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 16th, 2018 at 10:34pm:
I think you need a strategic withdrawal plan Bobby.
Yeah but
No but
Yeah but
OK

An ice is coming, just not in the next 10 years. The ice tide is out now and it will come in again as it has before. In fact our involvement in our planet's climate may see us skip the next tide returning and that would be a good thing if we survive the interim.



dear Set,
I'm in a buoyant mood tonight -
I have a lot of things going on in my life & it's all quite exciting.
I really can't take this all so seriously.


I'm drinking too Bobby, cheers! ;D

I'm kinda down myself but I won't bore you with it but I will say I hate moving, some really big financial decisions to make for our family are in the works. Life has it's ups and downs like the Earth has it's tides of ice.



I'm only drinking lemon juice.
I'm in the middle of huge financial decisions too.


Grape juice for me tonight. Lemons are out of season.


maybe you should be moving environment topics to the environment boards ... Setanta  :-?


That's not my job Mech. It's not my board, that would be excessive interference with a MRB.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 17th, 2018 at 6:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2018 at 4:56pm:

Quote:
We have a Dubyne MRB where the mod changes peoples’ posts.


Only posts with off topic abuse were ever deleted.


You changed peoples’ posts.

You are a hopeless Mod and you cannot accept responsibility for your own actions

1. You trolled mothra and me then said we made you do it. No apology was ever offered.

2. you swore like a trooper on my board and again, it was us made you do that.

If you can’t take responsibility for your own actions then you cannot be a Mod.

I didn’t say Felix was a shonk, I posted someone who said Felix was a shonk and why.

Dubyne is another shonk, no idea about climate or even weather. In it for the money—donations and ad revenue.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 24th, 2018 at 8:12pm
The latest from the SOS man.  His usual pile of crap.

Link.

Gee....a sandstorm.  Wow....so novel.  (Do a Google.)  A blizzard in Romania.  Unheard of.  (Do a Google.)  Record snow in Algeria.  Date?  (Do a Google.)  And his best...this grand solar minimum.  Just like his super freeze. Horseshit.  (Do a Google.)

Come on David.  Get your dumb arse here and let's duke it out.  You post your crap, (not your videos) and I'll debunk it.....with a simple Google search.

:)

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 24th, 2018 at 9:12pm
Booby posted some outright crap today, about cosmic rays and clouds. Pseudoscience, the data tortured until some weak correlation can be found.

Actually, not even Henrik Svensmark believes that crap anymore.

CRs do create nuclei but those are way too small for water vapor to form on them. We have been over this, Booby. Why do you uncritically swallow any nonsense Dubyne puts in one of his stupid videos?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 24th, 2018 at 11:37pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 17th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2018 at 4:56pm:

Quote:
We have a Dubyne MRB where the mod changes peoples’ posts.


Only posts with off topic abuse were ever deleted.


You changed peoples’ posts.

You are a hopeless Mod and you cannot accept responsibility for your own actions

1. You trolled mothra and me then said we made you do it. No apology was ever offered.

2. you swore like a trooper on my board and again, it was us made you do that.

If you can’t take responsibility for your own actions then you cannot be a Mod.

I didn’t say Felix was a shonk, I posted someone who said Felix was a shonk and why.

Dubyne is another shonk, no idea about climate or even weather. In it for the money—donations and ad revenue.



I only ever changed a few posts to delete off topic abuse &
marked them as modified.


Tonight I posted Professor Svensmark’s theories.

Is he a shonk too?

You know more than a university professor?

see here:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464603949/4738#4738

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 24th, 2018 at 11:43pm

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 25th, 2018 at 6:51am
Svensmark is a shonk. Shonks like Dubyne boost shonks like Svensmark and gullible little fools like you lap it all up.

You modify peoples’ posts, no one will post in your board. Quit as Mod!

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 25th, 2018 at 7:11am

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 25th, 2018 at 6:51am:
Svensmark is a shonk. Shonks like Dubyne boost shonks like Svensmark and gullible little fools like you lap it all up.

You modify peoples’ posts, no one will post in your board. Quit as Mod!



I only ever modified a couple of posts which contained
off topic abuse -
that is my right as a mod.

So Monk knows more than a university professor -
or so he thinks.
This is getting like "the Twilight Zone."



Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 25th, 2018 at 7:36am
Why do you believe shonks so readily?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Bobby on Mar 25th, 2018 at 7:43am
Looks like David DuByne was right all along -
he shows the link below at the end of this latest video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDSc2VcpLIM




https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/cosmic-rays-solar-activity-have-greater-impact-on-climate-models/news-story/ecff81870e18ea3c6fb4b9aad1a48acf

The impact of changes in solar activity on Earth’s climate was up to seven times greater than climate models suggested according to new research published today in Nature Communications.

Researchers have claimed a breakthrough in understanding how cosmic rays from supernovas react with the sun to form clouds, which impact the climate on Earth.

The findings have been described as the “missing link” to help resolve a decades long controversy that has big implications for climate science.

Lead author, Henrik Svensmark, from The Technical University of Denmark has long held that climate models had greatly underestimated the impact of solar activity.

He says the new research identified the feedback mechanism through which the sun’s impact on climate was varied.

Professor Svensmark’s theories on solar impact have caused a great deal of controversy within the climate science community and the latest findings are sure to provoke new outrage.

He does not dispute that increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere have a warming impact on the climate.

But his findings present a challenge to estimates of how sensitive the climate is to changes in carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere.

Professor Svensmark says his latest findings were consistent both with the strong rise in the rate of global temperature change late last century and a slowdown in the rate of increase over the past 20 years.

‘’It gives a physical foundation to the large body of empirical evidence showing that solar activity is reflected in variations in Earth’s climate,” a media statement accompanying the scientific report said.

“For example, the Medieval Warm Period around year 1000AD and the cold period in the Little Ice Age 1300-1900 AD both fits changes in solar activity,” it said.

“Finally we have the last piece of the puzzle of why the particles from space are important for climate on Earth,” it said.

The study reveals how atmospheric ions, produced by the energetic cosmic rays raining down through the atmosphere, helps the growth and formation of cloud condensation nuclei — the seeds necessary for forming clouds in the atmosphere.

More cloud condensation nuclei mean more clouds and a colder climate, and vice versa.

“Since clouds are essential for the solar energy reaching the surface of the Earth the implications are huge for our understanding of why climate has varied in the past and also for a future climate changes,” the statement said.

Professor Svensmark said it had until now wrongly been assumed that small additional nucleated aerosols would not grow and become cloud condensation nuclei, since no mechanism was known to achieve this.

The research team tested its ideas experimentally in a large cloud chamber.

Data was taken over a period of two years with total 3100 hours of data sampling.

Professor Svensmark said the new results gave a physical foundation to the large body of empirical evidence showing that Solar activity is reflected in variations in Earth’s climate.

“This new work gives credit to a mechanism that is much stronger than changes in solar irradiance alone,” Svensmark told The Australian.

“Solar irradiance has been the only solar forcing that has been included in climate models and such results show that the effect on climate is too small to be of importance,” he said.

“The new thing is that there exists an amplification mechanism that is operating on clouds in the atmosphere,” Svensmark said.

“Quantifying the impact of solar activity on climate from observations is found to be 5-7 times larger than from solar irradiance, and agrees with empirical variations in cosmic rays and clouds,” he said.

“This can therefore also explain why climate over the last 10,000 years correlates with solar activity, “Svensmark said.

“On time scales of millions of years there are much larger changes in the cosmic rays that has nothing to do with solar activity,” he said.

“So, this is an independent test of the mechanism and even here beautiful correlations are found,” he said.

But the Nature Communications paper says “the theory of ion-induced condensation should be incorporated into global aerosol models, to fully test the atmospheric implications.”

Professor Svensmark said since solar activity increased in the 20th century, part of the observed warming is caused by the sun.

“The logical consequence is that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is smaller than what climate models suggest which is 2-4 deg C for each doubling of CO2, since both CO2 and solar activity has had an impact”, he said.

Professor Svensmark said the findings may explain why temperatures had been increasing slower than expected over the last 20 years, because now solar activity is going down and cosmic rays flux is high.

“All this is something that should be looked more into, but now we have a very important solar mechanism,” he said.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 25th, 2018 at 8:09am
2014, 2015 and 2016 were hottest ever years, 2017 was hardly cooler than 2016 . Ice is at record low extent and volume in the Arctic and not far off record low in Antarctica.

Rapid enough temperature increase for me! This year could be an El Nino year and likely another record hot year.

Not only that, TSI has been slightly lower since the 1980s yet the world saw rapid warming. TSI has not increased since the 1980s.

Don’t believe in shonks!

Do we really have more clouds? If so, blame AGW. Parts of the North Atlantic were up to 9°C warmer than average. That means seas evaporate more moisture. The air has warmed so much it can hold 8% more moisture than in the late 19th century. Explains clouds well enough!

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 25th, 2018 at 5:34pm
https://robertscribbler.com/2018/03/23/big-oil-says-youre-to-blame-for-climate-change-not-them/#comment-139463

Have a read, Booby.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 27th, 2018 at 7:05am
Nobody posts in the Dubyne MRB.

Nobody bar Booby and the Moronic believes in global cooling/ice age.

Nobody trusts Booby enough to post in the Dubyne MRB.

What a waste and it could have been foreseen and avoided.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 29th, 2018 at 3:39pm
In one of the SOS man's more recent YouTube things, he refers to that Poll at the top of The Ice Age Thread in 'Environment.'  Jayzuz......just goes to show what a dick head he is! Fancy relying on anything posted here about envirnomental or climate science!

Memo snake oil salesman:

OzPol Members (apart from one) know jack schitt about it!

I also noticed in passing that you gibber on about floods in SE Qld......my neck of the woods.  Sure it floods every year in some parts but MAJOR flooding is extremely rare.  Further, I observed you used a graph about activity in the Northern Hemisphere to back up your bullshit concerning SE Qld.  Current flooding is in NORTH Qld. and is also nothing new.

Have you yet retracted your appallingly fraudulent comment that 'Bobby' is an Australian expert on climate/environment.  If you have not, as I have said before, it is just more evidence of your snake oil chicanery.

Memo to Bobby:

You reckon his videos bring 'traffic' to OzPol.  Where is evidence for that......as no-one seems to have registered and posted in 'DeBuyne's' MRB here?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 29th, 2018 at 4:10pm
How come no new Members from that 'traffic' are posting here.

Memo to SOS Man:

Sign up David, come right here to my web, and I'll joust with you while Monk tears you a new one.


Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 29th, 2018 at 4:21pm
When you look at the dupe’s poll you see only Booby, The Moronic and Agnes believe (wish in Agnes’ case) in the fatuous ice age. Yet that is all that is talked about there.

What a waste of a board, of an MRB.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 29th, 2018 at 4:45pm
Get yer hand off it Bobby!


Quote:
A good example of trolling - name calling.

Monk - this forum could be the Australian
center of excellence for climate change.

Monk hasn't even got the guts to post here.


Why the hell would anyone with credentials relevant to 'excellence for climate change' bother with a Forum where the bullshit of a snake oil salesman is taken as par?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Mar 29th, 2018 at 4:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24th, 2018 at 11:43pm:

Is that a white woman?

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 29th, 2018 at 5:16pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 29th, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Get yer hand off it Bobby!


Quote:
A good example of trolling - name calling.

Monk - this forum could be the Australian
center of excellence for climate change.

Monk hasn't even got the guts to post here.


Why the hell would anyone with credentials relevant to 'excellence for climate change' bother with a Forum where the bullshit of a snake oil salesman is taken as par?


How many HUNDREDS of my posts are in what is now the Dubyne MRB? The dupe never could refute my criticisms of the idiotic Dubyne videos. Now he is Mod there (FD is an idiot, clearly) and is not a trustworthy Mod so stuff posting there!

Quit as Mod, Booby, let FD *appoint* a suitable Mod else what was Environment and is now the Dubyne MRB will stagnate. You are not trustworthy, end of story.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Aussie on Mar 29th, 2018 at 5:24pm

Quote:
Aussie would prefer to sling mud from his relationship forum.

Aussie wants the traffic to come to his forum so
that eventually every Ozpolitic topic will end up there
and he'll be the grand pooh-bah for all topics.
It won't happen Aussie -
you're just a lowly sub forum mod like me.
Your delusions of grandeur must end.


Incorrect, Bobby.  I decided to cease posting in deBuyne's MRB after the Mod there (you) started deleting my posts....so I began a Thread about my relationship with that snake oil salesman surprisingly in Relationships.  Yes, quite bizarre isn't it Bobby, that there be a Thread about a relationship in Relationships

That is the harvest of what you sowed.

Title: Re: Relationship with David DuByne
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 29th, 2018 at 5:27pm
I have been trying to tell him his dead MRB is dead because of him, because he is not to be trusted as Mod.

He should resign and insist his idiotic ice age crap, not believed by 99% of OzPol members, be allowed to remain under a suitable appointed Mod.

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